MLs cutting time

[Theman16]

Hi guys, just really curious is it just me but most massage places I go to the ladies cut the time short, e.g. 45minute session finished at the 35minute mark and the ladies tells you to get dressed, I usually only take 1-2minutes to get dressed then tip them.

Some places are even worse 45 minute session ends in less than 30mins,
Same applies to one hour session, generally finished at 45-50minute mark, only sometimes if I choose the right girl I think I can reach 40 mins of a 45 min session. I personally was thinking a 5 minute leeway is acceptable, or am I being too generous?

I mean I’m not a fussy person if I had a good time I don’t really mind but I just feel sometimes the times are cut too short for the money I’ve paid and I don’t feel comfortable confronting the ladies about it.

What do you guys normally do?

[mansahar]

Just stop seeing that ML and try another ML. If majority of the MLs in one shop does the same thing then you're better off going somewhere else.

I had visited a shop when they first opened few years back. During that time most of the girls were very dodgy - asking for $100 tip instead of $50. I stopped seeing each and every one that asked for more than $50 tip, and that teaches them a lesson as they get less popular and soon stopped working there. Only girls that remained were those who stick to the $50 tip and doesn't offer more than part 2. They know better that by restricting to strictly part 2 (no part 2.5, 3, 4 and so on) that they'll get inundated with more customers wanting to experience quality massage.

[AHLUNGOR]

Hi guys, just really curious is it just me but most massage places I go to the ladies cut the time short, e.g. 45minute session finished at the 35minute mark and the ladies tells you to get dressed, I usually only take 1-2minutes to get dressed then tip them.

Some places are even worse 45 minute session ends in less than 30mins,
Same applies to one hour session, generally finished at 45-50minute mark, only sometimes if I choose the right girl I think I can reach 40 mins of a 45 min session.

I mean I’m not a fussy person if I had a good time I don’t really mind but I just feel sometimes the times are cut too short for the money I’ve paid and I don’t feel comfortable confronting the ladies about it.

What do you guys normally do?

Welcome to the forum. Very interesting question.

Just checking, you are talking about RnT massage right ? Not the legit massage only shops ?

Would you mind sharing some more details of your session? For example: in a 45 min session, did you tip upfront for part 2? And did the ML asked you to turn over at the half way? Did you cum very quickly ? Did you try to stop the ML if she is going too fast ? I guess sometimes you got to take control too, and play for the full session you had paid for !

Please explain !

[Theman16]

Welcome to the forum. Very interesting question.

Just checking, you are talking about RnT massage right ? Not the legit massage only shops ?

Would you mind sharing some more details of your session? For example: in a 45 min session, did you tip upfront for part 2? And did the ML asked you to turn over at the half way? Did you cum very quickly ? Did you try to stop the ML if she is going too fast ? I guess sometimes you got to take control too, and play for the full session you had paid for !

Please explain !

Hey man, ye RNT of course lol

Na I never tip up front, I’m not a regular or an experienced punter or maybe I’m more of a random punter I could go months without a rnt or I might go 2-3 times a week out of random. Sometimes might feel horny and just go to any RNT shop I drive by, and ye I’ve experienced where they tell you to turn over half way through the session, e.g 20minutes into a 45minute session, I never do 30 minute sessions as I think there too rushed.

Ye I guess I do cum quickly, what is the normal time before you should cum as expected by the ML after she tells you to turn over?

Let’s say for example a 60 minute session, she told me to turn over at the 35-40 minute mark, I came after 7 minutes of teasing body slides...etc then she cleaned me up with a hot towel and a mini massage while cleaning my body and was asked to get dressed at the 50 minute mark.

[aussiegaigin]

Sounds like stuff you buy in a supermarket. The price of a packet of biscuits or tin of beans doesn't go up, but you get fewer biscuits or less beans; they hope you don't notice.

[smn5746]

Hence I prefer shops where you pay up front at reception

[warwick1]

Alot of the problem are bookings back to back..........

[woods23]

You need go to the right shop !! Good tough management also help so the girls is more discipline!


I know at "Summerville"..summer don't like customers walk out early she Always ask how the session went etc

i have Been there since 2015 never had a bad session is a record that hard to be broken ! :)

Another good one is 227 BW.

[warwick1]

You need go to the right shop !! Good tough management also help so the girls is more discipline!


I know at "Summerville"..summer don't like customers walk out early she Always ask how the session went etc

i have Been there since 2015 never had a bad session is a record that hard to be broken ! :)

Another good one is 227 BW.

Seeing the ml's privately at my home solves a lot of problems, a win,win situation, I dont have a wife just a puppy dog................

[Theman16]

Welcome to the forum. Very interesting question.

Just checking, you are talking about RnT massage right ? Not the legit massage only shops ?

Would you mind sharing some more details of your session? For example: in a 45 min session, did you tip upfront for part 2? And did the ML asked you to turn over at the half way? Did you cum very quickly ? Did you try to stop the ML if she is going too fast ? I guess sometimes you got to take control too, and play for the full session you had paid for !

Please explain !

Hi AHLUNGOR

Yes I am talking about RNT of course lol.

Yes let’s say for example a 45 minute session, I never tip upfront I tip at the end of the session, yes I’ve experienced some that tell you to turn over halfway through the sessions and some that tell me to turn over at the 35-40 minute mark for a 60 minute session.

I guess I do Cum quickly in a way, generally when I turn over and they start playing around I’ll cum at the 5-8 minutes after turning over, then the lady wiped me downs and gives a slight massage and it ends at the 50-55 minute mark of a 60 minute session.

Then of course I’ve had the terrible ones for a 45 minute session they tell you to turn over at 20minute mark of even 15 minutes!, and the session ends at the 30 minute mark.

I’m not an experienced or a regular punter, I’m more of a random punter I can go months without a punt then I can suddenly go 2-3 times a week, or sometimes when I’m driving and I’m in the mood I’ll just drive to any random RNT joint I come across.

What is the normal expected time for the girl to tell you to turn over and the expected time before you cum after turning over?

[Theman16]

Alot of the problem are bookings back to back..........

Yes that’s one of the problems I was thinking too, especially the popular girls and you can even tell when the receptionist knocks on the door to remind them they have a booking after me (which spoils the mood)

But it even happens to the girls without bookings sometimes, make me think it’s a normal thing for Ladies to always end the session earlier than the time paid.

[Scanlan]

Sydney Baby Massage and Diva also pretty good at giving what you paid for .In fact
fact the worse exp was at one the more expensive massage parlours Crown on Bliss.
In 2015 they charged me $180 for a stunning Korean lady named Annie. She was friendly
at first but once entered the room did she a 360 degrees turnaround . And wanted extra $100
for kissing etc and no sex. She spent 5 mins shower and then lousy massage and at 20 min
told i had to come. A complete waste of time and money.

[cuteguy]

You must be having a rough time when you're paying for 45 minutes and only getting 35 minutes. Did you say it's your first time to the shop when asked if you had been for a massage before? Never say yes!

The best thing to do is take note what time you walked into the room and when the girl actually starts the massage for you. Don't be afraid to speak up if you feel you've been ripped off. It shouldn't take you or the girl 10 minutes to get dressed. The girl is probably seeing an opportunity to take advantage of you and have a break in between sessions if she has another booking after you.

Before choosing a girl ask her any special requests so there is no misunderstanding at the end. If you're wanting a girl to get naked from the outset when she does the massage tell her straight away or before choosing a girl. If you don't mind her taking her gear off half way then it's up to you. Don't wait until 10 minutes left on the clock before asking why she hasn't got her gear off.

I don't have an issue paying my $50 tip at the beginning of the session as long as I have made it clear to the girl what I'm requesting and she understands it. In the case of turning over depends on what type of massage you're after. If the girl wants to finish you off quickly she will want to turn you over. If you're not ready for it just say you want more massage. You're the customer and she should consider your requests. Not the other way round. The next thing is every person will come differently. Some come quicker while others are able to hold it longer once the girl gets her hands on your little fella. The more massages you have the more you will become able to resist in coming too quickly. Good luck.

[Theman16]

You must be having a rough time when you're paying for 45 minutes and only getting 35 minutes. Did you say it's your first time to the shop when asked if you had been for a massage before? Never say yes!

The best thing to do is take note what time you walked into the room and when the girl actually starts the massage for you. Don't be afraid to speak up if you feel you've been ripped off. It shouldn't take you or the girl 10 minutes to get dressed. The girl is probably seeing an opportunity to take advantage of you and have a break in between sessions if she has another booking after you.

Before choosing a girl ask her any special requests so there is no misunderstanding at the end. If you're wanting a girl to get naked from the outset when she does the massage tell her straight away or before choosing a girl. If you don't mind her taking her gear off half way then it's up to you. Don't wait until 10 minutes left on the clock before asking why she hasn't got her gear off.

I don't have an issue paying my $50 tip at the beginning of the session as long as I have made it clear to the girl what I'm requesting and she understands it. In the case of turning over depends on what type of massage you're after. If the girl wants to finish you off quickly she will want to turn you over. If you're not ready for it just say you want more massage. You're the customer and she should consider your requests. Not the other way round. The next thing is every person will come differently. Some come quicker while others are able to hold it longer once the girl gets her hands on your little fella. The more massages you have the more you will become able to resist in coming too quickly. Good luck.



Thanks for the tip, wait so about the girls asking us if it’s my first time to the shop before?, I should say yes or no, my understanding is the girls are asking to make sure your aware of the extras they provide so they can make extra $$$ right?

If it’s my first time to the shop I generally just tell them yes, and for a shop I’ve been before I’ll tell them her I’ve been here before, so in general when asked I should say yes or no? And why? What difference does it make?

[Warrabong]

Depends where you go. My last session the girl had to finish up 10 minutes early so gave me $10 back. Happy with that

[liminal]

Depends where you go. My last session the girl had to finish up 10 minutes early so gave me $10 back. Happy with that

happy ending all round… Is that instance when it does happen with me, I prefer goodwill and leave them the extra money, being aware that the return visit with the ml when it happens can often , Be a far more enjoyable session

[rooter]

Most punters are old, fat, ugly, dirty, rough, stingy, smelly, or some or all of the above.
You can fully understand why the girls want to try and spend as little time as possible with them.
Everyone cuts corners in their job, and tries to get away with doing less if they can.
It's perfectly rational and logical behaviour on their part.
What is actually surprising is the girls that don't do that.
Those girls are solid gold.

[Theman16]

Most punters are old, fat, ugly, dirty, rough, stingy, smelly, or some or all of the above.
You can fully understand why the girls want to try and spend as little time as possible with them.
Everyone cuts corners in their job, and tries to get away with doing less if they can.
It's perfectly rational and logical behaviour on their part.
What is actually surprising is the girls that don't do that.
Those girls are solid gold.

Can understand that, but surely least they could do is atleast massage our head , away from our body as much as possible until time is up, only on a few rare occasions I’ve had ML , where I’ve cum quickly and they offer to massage my head until time is up Which is nice.

But 45 minute session reduced to 30mins or even 35mins is unacceptable right?

[Theman16]

happy ending all round… Is that instance when it does happen with me, I prefer goodwill and leave them the extra money, being aware that the return visit with the ml when it happens can often , Be a far more enjoyable session

Agreed, $$$ isn’t the main problem, it’s the fact when they take advantage of you and try to rip your time off, if they cut the time short and offered to give back some of the $, I’m more then happy just to let them have it.

[skyecrack]

Speak up for yourself friend. You are the customer. No need to be aggressive, just tell them that you aren’t satisfied with their service.

[AHLUNGOR]

Hi AHLUNGOR

Yes I am talking about RNT of course lol.

Yes let’s say for example a 45 minute session, I never tip upfront I tip at the end of the session, yes I’ve experienced some that tell you to turn over halfway through the sessions and some that tell me to turn over at the 35-40 minute mark for a 60 minute session.

I guess I do Cum quickly in a way, generally when I turn over and they start playing around I’ll cum at the 5-8 minutes after turning over, then the lady wiped me downs and gives a slight massage and it ends at the 50-55 minute mark of a 60 minute session.

Then of course I’ve had the terrible ones for a 45 minute session they tell you to turn over at 20minute mark of even 15 minutes!, and the session ends at the 30 minute mark.

I’m not an experienced or a regular punter, I’m more of a random punter I can go months without a punt then I can suddenly go 2-3 times a week, or sometimes when I’m driving and I’m in the mood I’ll just drive to any random RNT joint I come across.

What is the normal expected time for the girl to tell you to turn over and the expected time before you cum after turning over?

Brother T, thanks for the honest feedback. I think you are probably not alone in getting a bit of short change in session times, it happens quite regularly.

First of all, I guess it’s fair to assume you don’t have any regular shop or regular MLs whom you have established some rapport with ? If you do and you support them regularly, then you most likely will get more bangs for your bucks ! Punts intended ....... lol

Again, without knowing what is it you want to get out of your RnT session, hard to give you a fix all approach, notwithstanding seeing a regular would probably eliminate your concerns,

1. If you need a good part 1, and part 2 just a bonus and if you are out of the room at the 58/59 min mark, you are happy ? Go see shops & MLs who have been reviewed extensively, they can’t go too wrong.

2, You are there mainly for the part 2, and you have a certain taste of girls and expecting certain level of part 2 plays and services, part 1 is purely just a transition. Then I suggest you reverse your session: ask for the happy ending first. Enjoy , then whatever time left, ask for the usual massage . If this is the case, you should just get a 30 min.

3. You want both a firm and remedial part 1 as well as a young hot babe who gave sensual part 2 services and even give you a head massage afterwards until it past the hour mark! If you have come across any such gem, please share !..... haha

In short, I don’t know the answer! But my strike rates are usually pretty good if I am going to my regular shops or seeing my regular top 10 girls. Outside of those comfort, sure win zone, my punt is just what it is, a punt !

Good luck and there are some useful advices earlier from other experienced members. Hope that helps !

Cheers

[james912]

do the punter have to initiate the conversation of part 2 with the masseurs? or generally do the masseur provide HJ during the massage by default? Also I assume the massage price is not inclusive of the extra services

[aussiegaigin]

do the punter have to initiate the conversation of part 2 with the masseurs? or generally do the masseur provide HJ during the massage by default? Also I assume the massage price is not inclusive of the extra services

Generally speaking, if the massage price is around $60-70 per hour, that is all you've paid for. You pay the girl for any extras. You can discuss extras at the start of the session, if not the girl will suggest it at the appropriate time.

If the price is around $110-120 per hour, the NHJ is included. You pay the girl for extras beyond that.

[Warrabong]

happy ending all round… Is that instance when it does happen with me, I prefer goodwill and leave them the extra money, being aware that the return visit with the ml when it happens can often , Be a far more enjoyable session

Agree, but she is my regular and insisted I take the money back. Always good service so not a drama.

[Warrabong]

Agreed, $$$ isn’t the main problem, it’s the fact when they take advantage of you and try to rip your time off, if they cut the time short and offered to give back some of the $, I’m more then happy just to let them have it.

It just depends. Sometimes my phone rings anyway and I’ve gotta leave. Happy to leave the $ that’s no drama either

[GoldfishMan]

I'm doing the opposite of what the OP is complaining about. I tend to try to leave early after I've shot my load. I mean, it is called the "happy ending" after all. The end, shows over, move on with my life!
And it's not just with RNT, I do the same with WLs. I went there to empty my balls, there I've done it, why the fuck would I want to hang around after that? Engaging conversations hardly ever happen there anyway, maybe once in a 100 punts.
That said, most of the time when I try to make a beeline for the exit, the girls will try to stop me from leaving. Maybe they genuinely want to give me my money's worth, or fear shop management giving them a hard time who knows.

I can tell you which shops I go to if you're really that concerned about getting your money's worth: DOS, SS, both the Ginzas, 42g.
All the girls I've seen at these places have tried to prevent me from leaving early after I've done the deed (I usually give excuse that I'm hungry or need to go back to work, lol).

[annintofu]

You need go to the right shop !! Good tough management also help so the girls is more discipline!


I know at "Summerville"..summer don't like customers walk out early she Always ask how the session went etc

i have Been there since 2015 never had a bad session is a record that hard to be broken ! :)

Another good one is 227 BW.
completely agree.
to avoid arguments later, i follow this process:
1 mamasan usher me into a room
2 i wait there for the girl to come in
3 girl comes in, greet, look up at the clock and say "it's 2:05, 45min, so ends at 2:50", girl agrees.
with this done at the start, I've never had my session cut short once.

On a some occassions, i got this at TokioStudio:
booked 1 hr seesion from 2pm.
arrived at 1:55, and sat down in a room.
waited 10mins, girl finally came at 2:05, she realised she forgot something, went out, came back 2min later.
at 2:55, she tells me: thank you so much for coming today, indicating the session is coming to an end.

Very bad experience, but that was 2+years ago, and it lead me to devise the preemptive measures above.

[B J Hunter]

On my next visit I’m going to set my stop watch and ask the ML to press start. Then I’ll do the following
Hey Siri how long left on stopwatch?
Siri:You have 32 minutes remaining it’s almost time to flip.
Hey Siri how long left now?
Siri: you have 16 minutes remaining in which to cum, shower, dress, tip and leave.

[CharlieM]

I'm the sort of guy that once I've shot my load, I just wanna get out of there. Don't really care if there is15 mins left in the session. Normally the ML will give me a head massage or ly beside me and haveca chat to see out the remaining minutes. Having said that on my one and only visit at SBM, didn't get a choice with ML. Completely not my type, no boobs, too skinny. Part 1 was ok. Part 2 got me over line, not so bad. With 15 minutes to spare she gave me one of the best foot massages I ever had. I allways try to take the positives out of each visit.

[cuteguy]

On my next visit I’m going to set my stop watch and ask the ML to press start. Then I’ll do the following
Hey Siri how long left on stopwatch?
Siri:You have 32 minutes remaining it’s almost time to flip.
Hey Siri how long left now?
Siri: you have 16 minutes remaining in which to cum, shower, dress, tip and leave.

Are you being facetious?

We don't need to adopt such measures when going for a massage. Just remember the time you entered the room and when the girl joins you. Then just keep an eye on what unfolds later. If you're going to be petty about the times then it makes the session somewhat awkward and uncomfortable. However, if the girl does end the session early, stand up for yourself. They can't disprove the CCTV footage if they are going to contest your recollection of events.

[Scanlan]

Geez how things have changed. Remember in the early 90's i was speaking to this Steriod
Middle Eastern Bodybuilder at a Newtown Shop and we heard this loud commotion
from one of the rooms. He calmly said excuse me sir and went behind the counter and grabbed
a baseball bat and then i heard thud thud thud thud and then a few moments later he
dragged his unconscious naked body through reception and threw him down the backstairs .
Turns out he had come once and tried to come again but couldn't and would let
the girl go when time off . To this day i still remember the blood trail.