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Meng
11-05-2021, 04:04 PM
So the bbq man or the covid infected person with no links to overseas travel or health workers..

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/may/10/nsw-health-minister-condemns-media-for-naming-sydney-barbecue-man-at-centre-of-covid-outbreak

Who thinks he's a secret punter and has just not disclosed a sneaky punt on his way to the bbq stores he's visited.

kingqxxx
11-05-2021, 04:07 PM
Exactly what I thought when I read the story

Sharphorse
11-05-2021, 04:16 PM
Hahaha this crossed my mind too. He’s looking at buying Barbecues Galore so must be a high roller

Sharphorse
11-05-2021, 04:16 PM
But then I wonder how did the sex worker catch it?

adahar
11-05-2021, 05:04 PM
But then I wonder how did the sex worker catch it?

Maybe from the guy in hotel quarantine ????

"On Thursday the state’s chief health officer, Dr Kerry Chant, said laboratory testing had revealed the community case of a man in his 50s who returned a positive test on Wednesday matched a case who travelled to the state from the US and quarantined at the Park Royal hotel at Darling Harbour, before being moved to Sydney health accommodation on 28 April.

But Chant said contact tracers had not identified any location where the pair could have come in contact with each other or any other direct link between the two cases.

“What we’re concerned about is there is another person that is as yet unidentified that infected our [community] case,” she said. “We sometimes never find a missing link.”

Two primary exposure sites were in the city on 27th and 28th so maybe an undetected private visit to the hotel ????

Meng
11-05-2021, 05:30 PM
Probably booked that hotel for a incall with a escort.

Like there must be something he's not disclosing.

bigfatkilo
11-05-2021, 06:23 PM
Apparently, he works for an investment firm and was carrying out due diligence and checking out the places.

kingqxxx
11-05-2021, 06:48 PM
Apparently, he works for an investment firm and was carrying out due diligence and checking out the places.

That sounds sus already doesnt it?

Auszed
11-05-2021, 07:44 PM
I was chatting about this with mates earlier - the whole thing is super sus, I reckon he was punting

JJBlows
11-05-2021, 08:39 PM
If there was an outbreak from a punter giving it to a WL and she spreads it (think about how many customers in a week she sees) do you think the news would disclose the location?

Vader
11-05-2021, 08:52 PM
I think if he saw a hooker or massage lady we would have a big problem by now.

wilisno
11-05-2021, 09:06 PM
Who knows, he might have got it from that WL...

Sharphorse
11-05-2021, 10:15 PM
I think if he saw a hooker or massage lady we would have a big problem by now.

This is a good point. A busy sex worker would be a super spreader, not just given it to one guy. Perhaps he’s a sugar daddy with an arrangement with a mistress and they met in a hotel. Who knows though hahaha

adahar
11-05-2021, 10:23 PM
If there was an outbreak from a punter giving it to a WL and she spreads it (think about how many customers in a week she sees) do you think the news would disclose the location?

Imagine if the missing link was a WL.

Having to disclose contacts and phone numbers of punters from 3 days prior and subsequent days until tested, staying in managed quarantine for 14 days, investigation of shop records (if from a shop???), realising that virtually no records had been kept. Trying to explain how the link was missed, not to mention how the guy can explain the kefuffle to the missus.

None of this could be revealed by the health dept. The fact that the AFR had published identities etc. must be a serious breach of data privacy and yet Hazzard seems to be doing nothing about it other than a public show of indignation.

It's no wonder that this "missing link" appears to have submerged into the news cycle, hoping no one cares enough to follow it up.

bigfatkilo
11-05-2021, 10:26 PM
Bbbj and daty won't spread covid haha.

Just hold off from kissing that's all.

JJBlows
12-05-2021, 06:05 PM
Bbbj and daty won't spread covid haha

Just hold off from kissing that's all.

Yea true but it would spread from coughing into hands and touching door knobs etc, plus that would spread it to other girls and their customers

bigmansam
12-05-2021, 06:08 PM
Perhaps WL and ML should be classified as essential workers and given priority jabs for COVID?

moz
12-05-2021, 09:04 PM
The guys been named in the AFR.
He wasn't trying to buy a BBQ.

Works for a private equity firm and was doing due diligence on buying a BBQ store chain.

GoldfishMan
13-05-2021, 08:45 AM
Bbbj and daty won't spread covid haha.

Just hold off from kissing that's all.
Bro, it definitely can spread from BBBJ or DATY. The reason they don't mention it in the media is because nobody goes around having BBBJs and DATYs everyday. Like, you don't go to the office and bam, just have a BBBJ right there. Instead, you might go to the office and cough or sneeze near your colleagues. So they just mention about the coughing and sneezing. It's a normal thing to do.

No offense intended, but you're supposed to use a bit of common sense that's all. It can spread through coughing / sneezing because the virus comes out with your body fluids like saliva, mucus, even droplets in your breath. When you do BBBJ and DATY, first you're in extremely close contact to the infected person, second you're exchanging body fluids (saliva, mucus, discharge, sweat, semen, etc). It's a no brainer that it can spread while doing those things.

On the BBQ man, I personally think he did punt and the missing link must be an ML/WL. At around the same time, they mentioned finding COVID traces in sewage around Marrickville... put 2 & 2 together... We all know there are many popular shops around there!

bigfatkilo
13-05-2021, 09:05 AM
Apologises. The "hahah" was meant to indicate a joke. But I didn't make it clear. Listen the health advice, not from a punting forum (we're experts in different things, not public health).

I'm sure You can definitely get covid from just bring in the room touching surfaces etc. And most likely from bbbj and daty and associated activities.


Bbbj and daty won't spread covid haha.

Just hold off from kissing that's all.

tpol
13-05-2021, 09:31 AM
Bro, it definitely can spread from BBBJ or DATY. The reason they don't mention it in the media is because nobody goes around having BBBJs and DATYs everyday. Like, you don't go to the office and bam, just have a BBBJ right there. Instead, you might go to the office and cough or sneeze near your colleagues. So they just mention about the coughing and sneezing. It's a normal thing to do.

No offense intended, but you're supposed to use a bit of common sense that's all. It can spread through coughing / sneezing because the virus comes out with your body fluids like saliva, mucus, even droplets in your breath. When you do BBBJ and DATY, first you're in extremely close contact to the infected person, second you're exchanging body fluids (saliva, mucus, discharge, sweat, semen, etc). It's a no brainer that it can spread while doing those things.

On the BBQ man, I personally think he did punt and the missing link must be an ML/WL. At around the same time, they mentioned finding COVID traces in sewage around Marrickville... put 2 & 2 together... We all know there are many popular shops around there!

If the missing link was a wl, there would be alot more cases. It probably was someone who had been vaccinated, frontline worker who spread it to him but that person didn't get sick

grstile
13-05-2021, 10:10 AM
Like, you don't go to the office and bam, just have a BBBJ right there.

oh damnit, you're telling me I've been doing offices wrong all this time?

no wonder I keep getting weird looks at work

GoldfishMan
13-05-2021, 12:31 PM
oh damnit, you're telling me I've been doing offices wrong all this time?

no wonder I keep getting weird looks at work
Depends if you were giving or receiving, lol!!

GoldfishMan
13-05-2021, 12:37 PM
If the missing link was a wl, there would be alot more cases. It probably was someone who had been vaccinated, frontline worker who spread it to him but that person didn't get sick
Or it could be people don't want to be identified as having COVID because being in that situation seriously messes up all aspects of your life for at least a few weeks. Some people couldn't even afford to be in that situation because of financial reasons.
.. being in quarantine means no work, no pay, no nothing.
That makes it possible that a lot more people are getting infected by the same source, they're just not coming forward because they don't want to lose income, etc.

adahar
13-05-2021, 01:07 PM
I'm not so convinced about the surface theory. Anything's possible I guess but the case in Melbourne had his three housemates come back negative. You couldn't get a situation more likely for surfaces to be in the loop than that.

The amount of check in's smacks of covering up your tracks. I'm not sure that anyone, no matter how diligent, would check in when paying for your petrol. To do so hints at trying to create a trail.

The other alternative of course, is perhaps they do know but dare not publish it. The fallout for the politics of it all would be catastrophic. Imagine the headlines if it was revealed that a visit by a WL was missed, or maybe a worker at the hotel was freelancing on the outside.

Any WL may have negotiated a price too big to refuse and take the chance knowing they could lay low for enough time to see if symptoms result. If symptoms do occur then spend a couple of days establishing a trail (staying away from everybody but lots of check in's) creating so many points of contact that it becomes impossible to pinpoint the source.

There's a lot of creative people out there, especially where big money is concerned.

Sharphorse
13-05-2021, 06:05 PM
If the missing link was a wl, there would be alot more cases. It probably was someone who had been vaccinated, frontline worker who spread it to him but that person didn't get sick

Agree. Only way it could be a WL was if it was a private that saw him in a hotel or something. If it was a shop it would have spread to 5-10 others just in that same day

Vader
13-05-2021, 06:46 PM
Agree. Only way it could be a WL was if it was a private that saw him in a hotel or something. If it was a shop it would have spread to 5-10 others just in that same day

Even with a private it would have spread to quite a few.

Sharphorse
13-05-2021, 07:00 PM
Even with a private it would have spread to quite a few.

That’s true, only possible scenario would be a seeking arrangement or mistress type of deal and even then would be less likely than it getting out through an asymptotic health or hotel worker like a previous poster mentioned

adahar
13-05-2021, 10:07 PM
Even with a private it would have spread to quite a few.

Seems like you're assuming that a private operator had no idea of what she was doing. I doubt that, they're not stupid. Easily smart enough to lie low knowing the risk, the downside of not doing that would be far too great. The pay off to take the risk could have been high and really worth it.

They'll never "find" the missing link. Gladys has already set up that presumption. It's now disappeared off the radar. If this happened in another state there'd be a lock down by now.

GoldfishMan
14-05-2021, 08:19 AM
Seems like you're assuming that a private operator had no idea of what she was doing. I doubt that, they're not stupid. Easily smart enough to lie low knowing the risk, the downside of not doing that would be far too great. The pay off to take the risk could have been high and really worth it.

They'll never "find" the missing link. Gladys has already set up that presumption. It's now disappeared off the radar. If this happened in another state there'd be a lock down by now.
Damn straight bro. Any other state would've imposed a lockdown purely because of the missing link. NSW? Nah, economy, house prices, etc are more important. Thank the stars we have low density population allowing us to do this dance with the devil!