Breaking NEWS:NSW lockdown extend another 4 weeks

[oznewhunter]

HOLY SHIIIIIIIIT！

https://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/live-covid19-updates-nsw-coronavirus-case-numbers/live-coverage/c2989e4f5199919197af69d62a91dfbc

NSW's crisis cabinet is reportedly considering a four-week extension of lockdown, which would take the stay-at-home orders into late August.

A significant extension of the lockdown is set to be announced by Premier Gladys Berejiklian on Wednesday, and a four-week extension is one of the options being considered, according to several media reports on Tuesday evening.

It comes after NSW recorded 172 new cases today, the highest so far during the current outbreak.

[GoldfishMan]

Still being finalized, we don't know exactly the shape or form it's going to be until tomorrow. I'm guessing they will extend it, but they might loosen the restrictions significantly for some parts of greater Sydney that are not affected as badly, like northern beaches area or the North shore. They'll try to do that in any area they can, to milk as much economic activity from those remaining areas.
CBD probably cannot escape it, unfortunately.

[adahar]

Still being finalized, we don't know exactly the shape or form it's going to be until tomorrow. I'm guessing they will extend it, but they might loosen the restrictions significantly for some parts of greater Sydney that are not affected as badly, like northern beaches area or the North shore. They'll try to do that in any area they can, to milk as much economic activity from those remaining areas.
CBD probably cannot escape it, unfortunately.

Coles at Warringah Wall has been identified as a casual contact exposure site. I doubt the Northern Beaches will escape now. It's been relatively free up to now save a couple of exposure sites at Belrose. The technology park up the road has a lot of workers from all over Sydney and the closest shopping centre is at Belrose. It was only a matter of time before Warringah Mall was visited.

[Raffiz88]

We will probably get 4 weeks. I think the cases are increasing quite fast.

[TheMaestro]

It was predicted in this very forum weeks ago. We live in interesting times.

[Niceguy11]

Another 4 weeks of blue balls. God damn it.

[Raffiz88]

Lucky we had that protest …

In all seriousness though it’s pretty ridiculous the construction industry will not continue the lockdown while other industries are

While I am not expert, I think govt's preferred industry for economic recovery is construction industry, be it house or roads. May be that's why govt don't want to mess with them much.

I heard as much as 3500 notices will be issued for the protest. So, in my mind, we are bound to see atleast 3000 more cases.

[Nabz]

Rip.

I guess people can't just sit still for a week or two.

And now this happens. Lol

[exstar]

Parramatta LGA is now affected… most likely thanks to that 50 person gathering in Pendle Hill … still yet to feel the aftermath of Saturday’s protest but surely that will contribute

[massage addict]

I don't know if I can take another 4 weeks without a massage. God dam it! Just hoping at the end this 4 weeks we open up again.

[00Eibwen]

Another month is too long. Dam it. Need to figure a way with the private

[Raffiz88]

Don't do it. Think with brain, not dick.
At this moment anyone can have it or pass it. Good private areas already declared hotspot. Plus today during briefing they said coppers will be making random visit in hotspot household.
Just make love with your hand or Gestapo for a change. If we all do the right thing, hopefully we will be able put it behind us faster.
P.S. no guarantee provided. 😝

[suka02]

haha nice now they following what vic did before adding the adff. could of done it long time ago. sigh

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[GoldfishMan]

Don't do it. Think with brain, not dick.
At this moment anyone can have it or pass it. Good private areas already declared hotspot. Plus today during briefing they said coppers will be making random visit in hotspot household.
Just make love with your hand or Gestapo for a change. If we all do the right thing, hopefully we will be able put it behind us faster.
P.S. no guarantee provided. 😝
I'll have to admit, blue balls is also clouding my judgement. I don't think I can hold it much longer!!

[bevis90]

Oh ffs this is out of control, they are are bringing in the army now cause they called it state of emergency and there will be another protest this weekend .

[Raffiz88]

Omg. I was missing visiting my country, as I have not been there for over 2 years. But now it feels like I am back in my country.
People not listening, doing protest for no logical reason, army out to control the people ..... Sigh.

[Ziggurat]

ABC news radio update:

"Public compliance with the health orders has gone up from 40% to 60% in the last two weeks.

Professor Prokopenko from the universty of NSW estimated between 25 and 30 per cent of Sydney's population were essential workers who had to remain out and about.

Adding those to the 60 per cent currently complying with restrictions left a further 10 to 15 per cent who were not complying.

His model shows at 70 per cent of the population complying with social distancing, and a steady vaccination rate of three per cent a week, it would get case numbers below ten in 45 days.

That would see the lockdown lasting until September 12."

That still leaves us with 10 infectious wandering the community six long weeks from now. And it all only started with only 1 - the limo driver*. So are we in lockdown until the end of the year and 80% vacc?

It will cost an absolute fortune.

*I wonder how that stupid ***t is feeling now, especially with the deaths.

[Vader]

ABC news radio update:

"Public compliance with the health orders has gone up from 40% to 60% in the last two weeks.

Professor Prokopenko from the universty of NSW estimated between 25 and 30 per cent of Sydney's population were essential workers who had to remain out and about.

Adding those to the 60 per cent currently complying with restrictions left a further 10 to 15 per cent who were not complying.

His model shows at 70 per cent of the population complying with social distancing, and a steady vaccination rate of three per cent a week, it would get case numbers below ten in 45 days.

That would see the lockdown lasting until September 12."

That still leaves us with 10 infectious wandering the community six long weeks from now. And it all only started with only 1 - the limo driver*. So are we in lockdown until the end of the year and 80% vacc?

It will cost an absolute fortune.

*I wonder how that stupid ***t is feeling now, especially with the deaths.

He won't give a rats as he was complying with the law. Hazzard is the problem.

[One23Four]

ABC news radio update:

"Public compliance with the health orders has gone up from 40% to 60% in the last two weeks.

Professor Prokopenko from the universty of NSW estimated between 25 and 30 per cent of Sydney's population were essential workers who had to remain out and about.

Adding those to the 60 per cent currently complying with restrictions left a further 10 to 15 per cent who were not complying.

His model shows at 70 per cent of the population complying with social distancing, and a steady vaccination rate of three per cent a week, it would get case numbers below ten in 45 days.

That would see the lockdown lasting until September 12."

That still leaves us with 10 infectious wandering the community six long weeks from now. And it all only started with only 1 - the limo driver*. So are we in lockdown until the end of the year and 80% vacc?

It will cost an absolute fortune.

*I wonder how that stupid ***t is feeling now, especially with the deaths.


This is the same Professor who predicted that Sydney will be out of lockdown in September following the same experience of the Delta Outbreak in Taiwan now in total control provided that a great majority of NSW residents behave and follow the PHO.

With the ADF now engaged to help with compliance and harsher restrictions, dramatic changes in situations can be possible within weeks.

[Vader]

This is the same Professor who predicted that Sydney will be out of lockdown in September following the same experience of the Delta Outbreak in Taiwan now in total control provided that a great majority of NSW residents behave and follow the PHO.

With the ADF now engaged to help with compliance and harsher restrictions, dramatic changes in situations can be possible within weeks.

I doubt it although I would like it to.

[adahar]

I doubt it although I would like it to.

+1

And with some detail of the "4 Phase Plan" released this'll go on in one form or another until merry Yuletide.

Lockdowns have threatened to be a feature until 70% and even 80% vaccine coverage. There are other very disturbing features of the "grand plan" which might create some very bad blood in the ensuing months.

Kiss goodbye to any form of normal.

[TheMaestro]

Vote them out!!! Oh wait, can't have elections with COVID-19 and lockdowns.

[warwick1]

Vote them out!!! Oh wait, can't have elections with COVID-19 and lockdowns.

The alternative would not be any better unfortunately, a bummer........

[dotcumdotinyou]

The best way to end all this and get back to somewhat normality is for over 80% vax rates. The best way to do this is to incentivize people to get the shots, I think the best incentive is if you present at a hospital with covid and you're unvaccinated you should have to pay for it yourself. You shouldn't be able to use medicare or your health insurance at all.

Sigh...this could only work if the government had enough vaccines for all of us.

[Vader]

+1

And with some detail of the "4 Phase Plan" released this'll go on in one form or another until merry Yuletide.

Lockdowns have threatened to be a feature until 70% and even 80% vaccine coverage. There are other very disturbing features of the "grand plan" which might create some very bad blood in the ensuing months.

Kiss goodbye to any form of normal.

Even the best modelling plans etc have shown that Australia won't get to 80% vaccination for yonks due to so many people ambivalent about getting vaccinated.

[Vader]

Vote them out!!! Oh wait, can't have elections with COVID-19 and lockdowns.

So you reckon the opposition will do anything different?

[Vader]

The best way to end all this and get back to somewhat normality is for over 80% vax rates. The best way to do this is to incentivize people to get the shots, I think the best incentive is if you present at a hospital with covid and you're unvaccinated you should have to pay for it yourself. You shouldn't be able to use medicare or your health insurance at all.

Sigh...this could only work if the government had enough vaccines for all of us.

Plenty of AZ...........

[Assandlegs]

I'll have to admit, blue balls is also clouding my judgement. I don't think I can hold it much longer!!That's why the almighty invented porn.....

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[storry_teller]

The best way to end all this and get back to somewhat normality is for over 80% vax rates. The best way to do this is to incentivize people to get the shots, I think the best incentive is if you present at a hospital with covid and you're unvaccinated you should have to pay for it yourself. You shouldn't be able to use medicare or your health insurance at all.

Sigh...this could only work if the government had enough vaccines for all of us.
Just like in China. Different benefits from unvaccinated and vaccinated.
I think business should be allowed to open if their staffs can provide certification for vaccinated. A bit hard to check but if give big fine for cheating then should be okay

[adahar]

Just like in China. Different benefits from unvaccinated and vaccinated.
I think business should be allowed to open if their staffs can provide certification for vaccinated. A bit hard to check but if give big fine for cheating then should be okay

According to ScoMo at last evenings PC one of the benefits for the vaccinated will be a shorter isolation time if tested positive, as opposed to the full 14 days if not. This presumes that that the vaccinated will still present for testing or being netted as a close contact. This presumes QR check in's will never be abandoned. There's a big chance that any vaccinated person might not get a test if their income is at stake, merely staying away from everybody until symptoms pass.

Another statement by him which journalists appear not to have picked up on was overseas travellers coming into the country (not returning Aussies) would need to be vaccinated with an TGA approved vaccine. Most of SE Asia will have used Sinovax and if that doesn't get approved then a 2 week quarantine might be enforced. That would fill up the yet to be built quarantine centres in a flash and be a nice little earner for the private enterprise contracted to run them. Keep an eye on this one, looks like a back door business opportunity for someone.

There's a sociological cost to this division of vaccinated vs un-vaccinated as 100% will never be achieved. Linking benefits to your health status is a dangerous path to take, you have no idea where it may go.

[cumquat]

According to ScoMo at last evenings PC one of the benefits for the vaccinated will be a shorter isolation time if tested positive, as opposed to the full 14 days if not. This presumes that that the vaccinated will still present for testing or being netted as a close contact. This presumes QR check in's will never be abandoned. There's a big chance that any vaccinated person might not get a test if their income is at stake, merely staying away from everybody until symptoms pass.

Another statement by him which journalists appear not to have picked up on was overseas travellers coming into the country (not returning Aussies) would need to be vaccinated with an TGA approved vaccine. Most of SE Asia will have used Sinovax and if that doesn't get approved then a 2 week quarantine might be enforced. That would fill up the yet to be built quarantine centres in a flash and be a nice little earner for the private enterprise contracted to run them. Keep an eye on this one, looks like a back door business opportunity for someone.

There's a sociological cost to this division of vaccinated vs un-vaccinated as 100% will never be achieved. Linking benefits to your health status is a dangerous path to take, you have no idea where it may go.

Personally if I was an Int’l arrival, I would if it’s available in country pay the above and over for a TGA approved vaccine.

That’s where the money spinner would be - migration agents etc

Re: linking benefits .. it’s here. And It’s called the insurance industry

[Climax598]

Shops any shop should have vaccination safe like we have covid safe now. This well force people to vax to go to work and customers well use QR to show you are vax before you receive service like what is happening in Europe.

[adahar]

Re: linking benefits .. it’s here. And It’s called the insurance industry

Insurance doesn't get you any benefits except to mitigate the cost of whatever you're insuring against. You don't need health insurance to get into a restaurant or entertainment venue etc.

To get those "benefits" (It's only being reported in connection with quarantine but who knows where it will go, as in France, Italy etc.) you might need to "prove" your status which means a vaccine certificate or passport to access those benefits. This could mean that private companies might be allowed to demand your health status.

Is this the path that we want to tread?

[adahar]

Could also point out that a precedent already exists.

To gain access to certain family tax benefits, their children have to be vaccinated for other stuff. It's not like the govt haven't done this before so it's not a huge jump to do it with the rest of society, but extending it to everyday life and private companies would seem to be a bridge too far.

[Vader]

Could also point out that a precedent already exists.

To gain access to certain family tax benefits, their children have to be vaccinated for other stuff. It's not like the govt haven't done this before so it's not a huge jump to do it with the rest of society, but extending it to everyday life and private companies would seem to be a bridge too far.

I don't have any issue with a private company enforcing its own rules. It is your choice if you wish to engage with that company or not.

[TheMaestro]

According to ScoMo at last evenings PC one of the benefits for the vaccinated will be a shorter isolation time if tested positive, as opposed to the full 14 days if not. This presumes that that the vaccinated will still present for testing or being netted as a close contact. This presumes QR check in's will never be abandoned. There's a big chance that any vaccinated person might not get a test if their income is at stake, merely staying away from everybody until symptoms pass.

Another statement by him which journalists appear not to have picked up on was overseas travellers coming into the country (not returning Aussies) would need to be vaccinated with an TGA approved vaccine. Most of SE Asia will have used Sinovax and if that doesn't get approved then a 2 week quarantine might be enforced. That would fill up the yet to be built quarantine centres in a flash and be a nice little earner for the private enterprise contracted to run them. Keep an eye on this one, looks like a back door business opportunity for someone.

There's a sociological cost to this division of vaccinated vs un-vaccinated as 100% will never be achieved. Linking benefits to your health status is a dangerous path to take, you have no idea where it may go.

It will be interesting if the world will be carved up into Vaccine bubbles. There is already reports and talk of China requiring visitors to be vaccinated with a Chinese vaccine in order for entry/more privileges. Imagine if every country had their own rules and vaccine list, those who need to travel could potentially require to get vaccinated with many different vaccines depending on where they were going? Apart from being a complete waste of vaccinations it is a bureaucrats wet dream!!!!!

[adahar]

I don't have any issue with a private company enforcing its own rules. It is your choice if you wish to engage with that company or not.

Absolutely true but that's not the point.

Your health status is nobody else's business and should remain private. Notwithstanding this primary right it's also about the govt sending signals that it's ok for one part of society to discriminate against another part of society that have equal rights.

This is why there are Acts protecting consumer, tenancy rights et al that may have unequal tension between parties. Abuse of this tension is the problem.

[Vader]

Absolutely true but that's not the point.

Your health status is nobody else's business and should remain private. Notwithstanding this primary right it's also about the govt sending signals that it's ok for one part of society to discriminate against another part of society that have equal rights.

This is why there are Acts protecting consumer, tenancy rights et al that may have unequal tension between parties. Abuse of this tension is the problem.

So you have an issue if you have to show if you have been vaccinated or not before entry or similar?
No one has equal rights

[adahar]

So you have an issue if you have to show if you have been vaccinated or not before entry or similar?

If it was debated in Parliament, supported by both houses and passed into law I would most certainly not act in contravention. PHO's always have a repeal date and therefore are temporary.

Adopted by private companies? No thanks.


No one has equal rights

Exercising your right to be equal is not necessarily easy or achievable but surrendering to this proposition means you will eventually lose them anyway.

The really dumb thing about "vaccine passports" for internal use (as opposed to international travel) is that, if as any many people get vaccinated as possible then a passport achieves nothing.

[Vader]

If it was debated in Parliament, supported by both houses and passed into law I would most certainly not act in contravention. PHO's always have a repeal date and therefore are temporary.

Adopted by private companies? No thanks.



Exercising your right to be equal is not necessarily easy or achievable but surrendering to this proposition means you will eventually lose them anyway.

The really dumb thing about "vaccine passports" for internal use (as opposed to international travel) is that, if as any many people get vaccinated as possible then a passport achieves nothing.

Your fighting a losing battle. Only battle on something that you can win.

[GoldfishMan]

I actually agree with adahar on this point. The vaxxed status = less restrictions thing does conjure up images of an Orwellian future. Regardless of how well meaning the Gov may be at this moment in time.

On a side note, anybody else find the NSW service website for vaccination extremely unhelpful? You answer a series of questions and get a vaccine that is "suitable" for you. Then they put you in a search page that looks like you can book a vaccination from it, then you find out you actually have to contact each of them individually to check what vaccinations they have and book the vaccination from them. The search results don't even have any correlation with what vaccine is suitable for you, they're just all the locations you can get a vaccine.

All this talk about vaccination being urgent, yet they don't even put the effort into streamlining the process!

[Vader]

I actually agree with adahar on this point. The vaxxed status = less restrictions thing does conjure up images of an Orwellian future. Regardless of how well meaning the Gov may be at this moment in time.

On a side note, anybody else find the NSW service website for vaccination extremely unhelpful? You answer a series of questions and get a vaccine that is "suitable" for you. Then they put you in a search page that looks like you can book a vaccination from it, then you find out you actually have to contact each of them individually to check what vaccinations they have and book the vaccination from them. The search results don't even have any correlation with what vaccine is suitable for you, they're just all the locations you can get a vaccine.

All this talk about vaccination being urgent, yet they don't even put the effort into streamlining the process!

I feel if you are vaccinated you should have less restrictions. Nothing Orwellian about that. I would have thought a good idea and common sense. But each to their own.

[adahar]

Your fighting a losing battle. Only battle on something that you can win.

It isn't a battle, it's a principle; the things you have whether you win or lose.

[Vader]

You are trying to battle a principle that you believe in.