Married men - how are you coping?

[DireStraits]

This is a question for married guys or those with long term partners who before lockdown were already getting it occasionally from their significant other.

How has lockdown changed things for you with her?

And for those who miss their ML and tug (even though you still have sex with your partner/wife), would you ask her to give you a tug simply because you miss it?

And taking things even further, if she normally never gives you a tug, would you attempt to spice it up by offering her something of value (or even cash) in exchange for a tug?

[AHLUNGOR]

No no no ?

Don’t change anything at home !

[aussiegaigin]

Don't get much at home any more, so I'm definitely at a loss.

[zoozilla]

Yes lots of great sex at home and loving it everyday.

After Covid I think most sex shops would close shop as married men now realize how much money they can save by having sex at home.

It's safer too as chances of catching Delta Variant is lesser.

It's a better environment as I just hate having sex on the tall massage table. I have fallen down from it half way discharging my load and sometimes my leg got stuck into the massage table hole. The ML had to ask Mamasan to bring in a tall chair to pull me out and I wasted 10 minutes of my precious punting time.

The leisure and slow sex at home is fun unlike the WLs who like to rush things. Sometimes they push me in without getting wet. The rubbing of dry skin against dry skin causes me soreness.

And I hate timing my ejaculation with the clock in the parlour. I sometimes miss it and Mamasan has to knock on the door to hurry me up.

[alc]

Yes lots of great sex at home and loving it everyday.

After Corvid I think most sex shops would close shop as married men now realize how much money they can save by having sex at home.

It's safer too as chances of catching Delta Variant is lesser.

It's a better environment as I just hate having sex on the tall massage table. I have fallen down from it half way discharging my load and sometimes my leg got stuck into the massage table hole. The ML had to ask Mamasan to bring in a tall chair to pull me out and I wasted 10 minutes of my precious punting time.

The leisure and slow sex at home is fun unlike the WLs who like to rush things. Sometimes they push me in without getting wet. The rubbing of dry skin against dry skin causes me soreness.

And I hate timing my ejaculation with the clock in the parlour. I sometimes miss it and Mamasan has to knock on the door to hurry me up.

Leg stuck in the hole? God, you really must be 10 years old.

The first time you spelt it Corvid I thought it was autocorrect. At this point, I swear you're doing it to make my eye twitch.

[solidsnake]

Yes lots of great sex at home and loving it everyday.

After Covid I think most sex shops would close shop as married men now realize how much money they can save by having sex at home.

It's safer too as chances of catching Delta Variant is lesser.

It's a better environment as I just hate having sex on the tall massage table. I have fallen down from it half way discharging my load and sometimes my leg got stuck into the massage table hole. The ML had to ask Mamasan to bring in a tall chair to pull me out and I wasted 10 minutes of my precious punting time.

The leisure and slow sex at home is fun unlike the WLs who like to rush things. Sometimes they push me in without getting wet. The rubbing of dry skin against dry skin causes me soreness.

And I hate timing my ejaculation with the clock in the parlour. I sometimes miss it and Mamasan has to knock on the door to hurry me up.

Kid, there isn’t a WL in the world who would push a client in while dry.

[solidsnake]

This is a question for married guys or those with long term partners who before lockdown were already getting it occasionally from their significant other.

How has lockdown changed things for you with her?

And for those who miss their ML and tug (even though you still have sex with your partner/wife), would you ask her to give you a tug simply because you miss it?

And taking things even further, if she normally never gives you a tug, would you attempt to spice it up by offering her something of value (or even cash) in exchange for a tug?

Dude offering cash / jewellery for tug a) gets you accused of calling them a prostitute and b) arouses suspicion that you pay others for hand jobs. Don’t do it!

[storry_teller]

Maybe this pandemic is there to heal some relationships, also to push some girls out off this industry. After lockdown, probably an amount of girls gone for good like last year

[Labia Vortex]

The shutters at home have been closed for years
The reason I punt
It’s driving me nuts

[GoldfishMan]

Not much has changed between her and I. Sex life has been ok.
Hell no, I would never ask for a tug from her or even suggest payment for it! I'm not addicted to the transaction.

I do miss the freedom of being out there again. The usual setting for me is I get through a tough few days at work which gets me all horny for a root. Then I hit up my fave WL/ML or try a new one according to my schedule.... Instant gratification. That's what I miss!

Yeah I hate WFH for taking away my freedom and my "me-time", but at the same time thankful that it is available for me to continue making a living.

[zoozilla]

Kid, there isn’t a WL in the world who would push a client in while dry.

Maybe they did dry entry to punish me.

[asiafever]

Maybe this pandemic is there to heal some relationships, also to push some girls out off this industry. After lockdown, probably an amount of girls gone for good like last year

I agree, once lockdown lifts I think if some girls have an exit strategy they'll take it. Dealing with last year's lockdown was bad enough so this one would probably be the tipping point for them. We may see a greater "go home" factor than last year.

Friends of mine who are still married seem firmly divided into 2 camps in lockdown. They are either getting on each other's nerves quite a bit or have seen an improvement in both their general relationship and then of course their sex life.

[Fred Flintstone]

The missus has let her bush grow since all the waxing places are shut. There’s no way I’m going near a hairy bush. Yikes

I have regular WL who I’ve been seeing for 8 years. She’s still seeing a couple of customers a week from her apartment in Mosman

[Johnisfun1969]

Maybe this pandemic is there to heal some relationships, also to push some girls out off this industry. After lockdown, probably an amount of girls gone for good like last year

Well the landscape will definitely change in the short run. When the lockdown is lifted there may be opportunities for girls to make money. Some may want to return home. But when the international borders open and they do allow international students we will have new talent arriving on our shores. Majority of the places are anyhow run by Asian businesses who will pocket all the money punters are saving. They will be able to replace their Lexus, BMW X5 and Merc GLE at the expense of treating our blue balls.

[Carissawhore]

Covid ruined my relationship and my long term partner and I brokeup. All my mates have broken up or in the verge of breaking up, mental pressure is killing everyone especially ones with young kids. When this ends divorce lawyers will make more money then ever.

[limbi8888]

i'll be honest, most of us are into ml/wl cos we don't get action at home. Mine is still the same, been without for a long bout already.
Can't wait for the lockdowns to ease up

[limbi8888]

Covid ruined my relationship and my long term partner and I brokeup. All my mates have broken up or in the verge of breaking up, mental pressure is killing everyone especially ones with young kids. When this ends divorce lawyers will make more money then ever.

Yeah they are the biggest crooks out there, they always urge the women with kids to punish the guy by withholding kids to get more money.
End of the day only they really win

[Divine]

No change, no action at all, I guess that’s why we go visit WL/ML

[DayMan69]

Sex at home? Jesus. The gates started coming down after the first kid, they got reluctantly tugged open a little to enable the second, and the third was frankly the immaculte conception. Marriage is about creating a family, building a financial base and being part of a community. Your full balls aren't part of the deal.

That's why i love poor Asian students furthering their education in Australia.

[limbi8888]

Sex at home? Jesus. The gates started coming down after the first kid, they got reluctantly tugged open a little to enable the second, and the third was frankly the immaculte conception. Marriage is about creating a family, building a financial base and being part of a community. Your full balls aren't part of the deal.

That's why i love poor Asian students furthering their education in Australia.

All for the exchange students!

[solidsnake]

Maybe they did dry entry to punish me.

If a WL is lazy and/or isn’t enjoying the session, she’ll use so much lube you can’t feel a thing and go starfish on you, or try to rapidly blow you off or even worse jerk you off to get you out of there. They won’t do anything to hurt themselves and limit their ability to earn $$$.

[solidsnake]

It’s shit being married / de facto under lockdown. My relationship was fucked long before COVID but sticking it out for the kids.

Normally you can go to work, visit friends and family, or punt to feel normal again and hit the reset button. Now just stuck in the pressure cooker.

[tpol]

Seriously guys. If you happened to be single again through divorce or whatever, would you marry again? Or just pump 20 something yo for the rest of your life

[GoldfishMan]

If a WL is lazy and/or isn’t enjoying the session, she’ll use so much lube you can’t feel a thing and go starfish on you, or try to rapidly blow you off or even worse jerk you off to get you out of there. They won’t do anything to hurt themselves and limit their ability to earn $$$.

Shit I f-ing hate too much lube bro. It's like fucking thin air!

[kingwally]

Seriously guys. If you happened to be single again through divorce or whatever, would you marry again? Or just pump 20 something yo for the rest of your life

Married once and would consider doing it again but only when I reached about 75 years old and then she is only there to look after my health. Meanwhile I will keep fucking many 20s/30s/40s women.

[DayMan69]

Seriously guys. If you happened to be single again through divorce or whatever, would you marry again? Or just pump 20 something yo for the rest of your life

A serious question deserves serious analysis.

You marry (again) for sex, companionship, social structure and to have each other's back. Let's assume you're 55+.

1. Sex. Banging hotties week after glorious week. An hour or more each time dedicated to your complete satisfaction with a lithe, perky and enthusiastic partner who pulls the occasional outrageously good trick out of her bag. Versus a 50+ cranky Karen. Winner ML/WL

2. Companionship. Your mates; beers, action-oriented hobbies, raucous fun with like-minded brothers. Versus pricey restaurants, ridiculous money for cocktails, the ballet and message-driven movies. Winner. Your mates.

3. Social structure. It's a couples world. Dinner with other couples, cruises, overseas holidays, weekends away. Versus not too much unless you've a lot of single mates. Winner. Marriage/de facto. Arrangements with a few also-single women may work here. But they all seem to want monogamy and a relationship, despite what they initially say. And yeah, sex with a 55+? Jesus.

4. Each other's back. Dealing with health issues, help with decisions, turns with the cooking. Versus no one except your kids, maybe close buddies. Winner. Marriage/de facto.

Hard one. I'd say bang hotties until you're about 70 and then, if anyone will have you, find a companion. Sex is over, slippers look good and you can't drink, surf, fool around like you used to anyway.

[Fred Flintstone]

A serious question deserves serious analysis.

You marry (again) for sex, companionship, social structure and to have each other's back. Let's assume you're 55+.

1. Sex. Banging hotties week after glorious week. An hour or more each time dedicated to your complete satisfaction with a lithe, perky and enthusiastic partner who pulls the occasional outrageously good trick out of her bag. Versus a 50+ cranky Karen. Winner ML/WL

2. Companionship. Your mates; beers, action-oriented hobbies, raucous fun with like-minded brothers. Versus pricey restaurants, ridiculous money for cocktails, the ballet and message-driven movies. Winner. Your mates.

3. Social structure. It's a couples world. Dinner with other couples, cruises, overseas holidays, weekends away. Versus not too much unless you've a lot of single mates. Winner. Marriage/de facto. Arrangements with a few also-single women may work here. But they all seem to want monogamy and a relationship, despite what they initially say. And yeah, sex with a 55+? Jesus.

4. Each other's back. Dealing with health issues, help with decisions, turns with the cooking. Versus no one except your kids, maybe close buddies. Winner. Marriage/de facto.

Hard one. I'd say bang hotties until you're about 70 and then, if anyone will have you, find a companion. Sex is over, slippers look good and you can't drink, surf, fool around like you used to anyway.

That’s a really good assessment.

Thats why so many old white blokes in their 70s and 80s go to the Philippines and Thailand. They’ve been divorced a couple of times and need someone to look after them in their old age in exchange for money. Viagra means that they can still crack a stiffy once in a while. Many get fleeced by their 20 something hotties and their families, but it’s worth a shot. Better than being miserable and lonely back home.

[GoldfishMan]

A serious question deserves serious analysis.

You marry (again) for sex, companionship, social structure and to have each other's back. Let's assume you're 55+.

1. Sex. Banging hotties week after glorious week. An hour or more each time dedicated to your complete satisfaction with a lithe, perky and enthusiastic partner who pulls the occasional outrageously good trick out of her bag. Versus a 50+ cranky Karen. Winner ML/WL

2. Companionship. Your mates; beers, action-oriented hobbies, raucous fun with like-minded brothers. Versus pricey restaurants, ridiculous money for cocktails, the ballet and message-driven movies. Winner. Your mates.

3. Social structure. It's a couples world. Dinner with other couples, cruises, overseas holidays, weekends away. Versus not too much unless you've a lot of single mates. Winner. Marriage/de facto. Arrangements with a few also-single women may work here. But they all seem to want monogamy and a relationship, despite what they initially say. And yeah, sex with a 55+? Jesus.

4. Each other's back. Dealing with health issues, help with decisions, turns with the cooking. Versus no one except your kids, maybe close buddies. Winner. Marriage/de facto.

Hard one. I'd say bang hotties until you're about 70 and then, if anyone will have you, find a companion. Sex is over, slippers look good and you can't drink, surf, fool around like you used to anyway.
Easy to fix the above equation, bro. Just don't marry a 50+ Karen!
The question was about remarrying so it's at least the second time around. You would logically try to get a partner that is much younger than you are to give yourself as much enjoyment in the sex department out of the relationship. Unless you're Jeff Bezos, of course, but that's a different story.

The trick is to find the sweet spot, not too young not too old. I divorced from my ex-wife who was same age as I am (not due to sex problem!), then after a while I got into a defacto relationship with my current partner who's 12 years younger than me. I reckon a wife who is up to 20 years younger is still ok. Any younger and the generational gap would be too much of a strain on the relationship.

Not the only factor of course... Gotta consider if you enjoy living with her, whether or not she's a control freak, etc. But sexual enjoyment is extremely important and if the new relationship does not pass that test, it's not a good idea to commit.

[DayMan69]

That’s a really good assessment.

Thats why so many old white blokes in their 70s and 80s go to the Philippines and Thailand. They’ve been divorced a couple of times and need someone to look after them in their old age in exchange for money. Viagra means that they can still crack a stiffy once in a while. Many get fleeced by their 20 something hotties and their families, but it’s worth a shot. Better than being miserable and lonely back home.

'Better than being miserable and lonely back home.' This. Brilliant. So true.

I could never get it past my kids though. I'm also very aware of how easy it is, even for an old dog, to get fleeced by a Thai or Filipino hottie. I think the solution there, if you were going that route, is to stick all your assets in a trust. Enjoy it all, own nothing and have nothing to fleece.

I'll just have to visit hotties in massage shops and go 'scuba diving' in thailand for a month at a time. I think the cost of a weekly session versus dating favours the weekly session. And the sex is better.

[Johnisfun1969]

The same here marriage was not working and staying in the relationship because of kids. My wife is crazy she used to find excuse to fight in everything. So I decided to sleep in spare room since the last 6-7 years. Only in the relationship for the kids and waiting for them to be independent. No marital sex in my life so lockdown is no different. I was punting little bit in Sydney until I started travelling to Asia. Had some memorable trips maybe too good. I have not tried punting in Sydney since. Partly because of lockdown and quality.

Agree with most comments about second marriage. Why would you do unless you meet someone really special. They say if you can get your milk outside why buy a cow .

[asiafever]

https://youtu.be/Z6LlmTJ4qSA

Re-marry? She would have to be very, very special..

[Carissawhore]

https://youtu.be/Z6LlmTJ4qSA

Re-marry? She would have to be very, very special..

Haha lmao
We men are not strong from inside, women on the other hand plan and stick to them, they are stubborn and would not budge, we always have to say sorry at the end of any fight even though women did something wrong. All relationships turn to relationshit at some point, it is best to keep girls you like as friends so that you do not loose them and fuck WL/ML. Being single is lot more better than having a wife/defacto at home and seeing them slip away from your heart whom you thought was your whole world and become your arch enemy.
This pandemic is not helping any relationships and the lockdowns are making it worse, if everything goes as plan and premieres start freeing restrictions and borders we can all get back to punting game. Just hold on boys we got this.

[keebab]

Amem to International Business Studies!

[Wotan]

You guys juggling better hope you donÂ’t get caught. I suspect many horror stories and much financial and emotional pain lurking unspoken in the background here.

[asiafever]

Haha lmao
We men are not strong from inside, women on the other hand plan and stick to them, they are stubborn and would not budge, we always have to say sorry at the end of any fight even though women did something wrong. All relationships turn to relationshit at some point, it is best to keep girls you like as friends so that you do not loose them and fuck WL/ML. Being single is lot more better than having a wife/defacto at home and seeing them slip away from your heart whom you thought was your whole world and become your arch enemy.
This pandemic is not helping any relationships and the lockdowns are making it worse, if everything goes as plan and premieres start freeing restrictions and borders we can all get back to punting game. Just hold on boys we got this.

https://youtu.be/uQOyXlsoS04

[Carissawhore]

https://youtu.be/uQOyXlsoS04
Bill Burr is the best, he has soften down on women issues after his baby.

[asiafever]

Bill Burr is the best, he has soften down on women issues after his baby.

That whole longer segment is brilliant.
Yeah I love Bill.

[tpol]

Thanks guys, I was thinking when I can't get hard anymore then consider someone

[dotcumdotinyou]

The best thing about being divorced is having the freedom of a teenager but with more money.

[Warrabong]

Like a one legged man in an ass kicking contest

[GoldfishMan]

Can't argue with any of the points here. Single life is the best way of life for a punter hands down. No competition.

[Carissawhore]

Can't argue with any of the points here. Single life is the best way of life for a punter hands down. No competition.

Being single has its perks, more money in your pocket, freedom to do what ever you want, you will sleep like a baby knowing you don't have to worry about other guys fucking your wife/partner. All relationships will come to an end or will become stale after some point and resentment starts between each other. Elon Musk is our only hope, if he starts making sex dolls then we do not have to worry about child support, alimony, mood swings during periods...

[solidsnake]

Seriously guys. If you happened to be single again through divorce or whatever, would you marry again? Or just pump 20 something yo for the rest of your life

Got kids so I wouldn’t remarry even if go through divorce.

Pumping 20 somethings for me until my dick stops working

[Nejums]

Marriage is a sham. Don't do it.

Anyway, I've been having the best solo sex.

[mattemeiser]

Seriously guys. If you happened to be single again through divorce or whatever, would you marry again? Or just pump 20 something yo for the rest of your life

Have some friends that were divorced prior to COVID and others that are getting divorced (partly due to COVID redundancies, dull or non-existent sex life, getting on each other's nerves & wives ballooning-up after kid/s), asked them this & almost all of them said that marriage in this day & age just isn't worth it. To much downside & not enough up side. "Why buy the cow when you can drink milk for free?"

Common issue brought up being that the women don't have the same staying power as the Greatest Generation. Women wanting to throw-in the towel after the smallest issue.

Many have tried re-entering the dating market - near impossible during COVID & that the girls these days having huge requirements list (even the dogfaces), social media creating girls with highly inflated opinions of themselves & the juice not being worth the squeeze. Friends being from different financial situations all were swindled in the courts, especially the ones with kid/s. The saddest part is the mothers poisoning the kids minds against them.

Many have said will stick to punting. Cheaper in the long run & have been more happy mentally without the bickering & fights.
-Matt-

[mattemeiser]

'Better than being miserable and lonely back home.' This. Brilliant. So true.

I could never get it past my kids though. I'm also very aware of how easy it is, even for an old dog, to get fleeced by a Thai or Filipino hottie. I think the solution there, if you were going that route, is to stick all your assets in a trust. Enjoy it all, own nothing and have nothing to fleece.

I'll just have to visit hotties in massage shops and go 'scuba diving' in thailand for a month at a time. I think the cost of a weekly session versus dating favours the weekly session. And the sex is better.

This 1000%.
In regards to your kids, respectfully I think as they get older they would appreciate your side in your former marriage & come to the conclusion that your ex wife wasn't all sunshine & rainbows. The kids should love for you to be happy & turn a blind eye to the age of the girl keeping you company.

Veey good idea re having all assets in a trust. Just see a Wills specialist to create a iron tight Will & not live with the Filo or Thai bird.

The weekly session would also be younger, tighter & not be a drain on you emotionally causing headaches. Would probably live longer also.
-Matt-

[storry_teller]

This 1000%.
In regards to your kids, respectfully I think as they get older they would appreciate your side in your former marriage & come to the conclusion that your ex wife wasn't all sunshine & rainbows. The kids should love for you to be happy & turn a blind eye to the age of the girl keeping you company.

Veey good idea re having all assets in a trust. Just see a Wills specialist to create a iron tight Will & not live with the Filo or Thai bird.

The weekly session would also be younger, tighter & not be a drain on you emotionally causing headaches. Would probably live longer also.
-Matt-
Kids would probably understand and appreciate parent’s sacrificing, including their affairs, if the marriages are terrible. However, if they can feel the bad relationships (domestic violence, parents ignore family’s existence but just be irresponsible to family, etc), they probably have miserable childhood and it would affect their outlook on life. Some would feel ashamed of unhappy families that make them want to stay away from their parents till they are mature enough to understand the situation.

[kingwally]

Have some friends that were divorced prior to COVID and others that are getting divorced (partly due to COVID redundancies, dull or non-existent sex life, getting on each other's nerves & wives ballooning-up after kid/s), asked them this & almost all of them said that marriage in this day & age just isn't worth it. To much downside & not enough up side. "Why buy the cow when you can drink milk for free?"

Common issue brought up being that the women don't have the same staying power as the Greatest Generation. Women wanting to throw-in the towel after the smallest issue.

Many have tried re-entering the dating market - near impossible during COVID & that the girls these days having huge requirements list (even the dogfaces), social media creating girls with highly inflated opinions of themselves & the juice not being worth the squeeze. Friends being from different financial situations all were swindled in the courts, especially the ones with kid/s. The saddest part is the mothers poisoning the kids minds against them.

Many have said will stick to punting. Cheaper in the long run & have been more happy mentally without the bickering & fights.
-Matt-

Great post! It amazes me that many women have a checklist when they personally have absolutely zero to offer in return.

[Blackkkkkkk]

Sex at home? Jesus. The gates started coming down after the first kid, they got reluctantly tugged open a little to enable the second, and the third was frankly the immaculte conception. Marriage is about creating a family, building a financial base and being part of a community. Your full balls aren't part of the deal.

That's why i love poor Asian students furthering their education in Australia.

Hahahaha agreed.

[Jaygee]

I can't be bothered with my (unmarried) missus . . . am already planning visits for when I go back to work and there's 3 places closeby

[Johnisfun1969]

OMG It seems few of the married men are not getting enough tlc at home. Or could it be because they are not satisfied at home they are punting and on this site. Well my case is different. Me and wife don’t get along and did not have sex since almost 9years. It seems the wife wanted to continue have sessions but I could not deal with her attitude and constant fighting on small things. I decided to sleep in spare room and been better since . I am in the relationship only for the kids who are growing up now.

Not sure of marrying again but I had more intimate times with girls overseas than in marriage since my second one was born. On top of this my wife does not work, lazy and walks with a chip on shoulder. I think some women are just crazy and can’t keep it together. Hopefully move out one day and get a regular girlfriend or enjoy life visiting Asian countries. Seeing some of the reviews here tempted to try few stars with raving reviews. If it was not for the porn sites life would be very dull.

[limbi8888]

yeah my kids already wana live with me but the ex has been resisting all the way.
Same as most nothing for close to 2yrs i got outta there, was a bad divorce, lost most of the wealth, rebuilding again...

[Johnisfun1969]

yeah my kids already wana live with me but the ex has been resisting all the way.
Same as most nothing for close to 2yrs i got outta there, was a bad divorce, lost most of the wealth, rebuilding again...

Just wondering do you have to pay money to your ex wife also. If I have to pay half the salary there won’t be much left to live off let alone punting. My wife does not work and if she finds a job won’t be paying much. Just weighing up which is worse married and miserable with little money or divorced and miserable but poor.

[Carissawhore]

Almost 90% of relationships turn into relationshit at some point, my marriage broke cause I caught my wife cheating after 6 years of marriage, she took everything I had in the divorce and her parents being lawyers did not help. My recent relationship broke just few months ago cause she fell in love with someone else. At this point I realised it is not even worth having relationship, I have made my peace to fuck as many WL's as possible and enjoy life to its core. Social media has fucked up girls ego, always posting their body to get some likes on Instagram. Marriage is a modern scam for girls to take all your shit without contributing little to none. Going through divorce fucks you mentally and blood sucking lawyers are like salt on the wound.

[Awqjoq]

Great marriage but the meds my wife is on have killed her libido. Sex is great but it happens once a month at best. I go to MLs once every couple weeks or so to take the edge off but since lockdown it's been me and my hand haha

[dotcumdotinyou]

I have to admit I'm so much happier after the divorce. There were some terrible times...my eldest daughter 9 slipped me a note while the ex was screaming and ranting at me. Later when I read it it said "I hate you for what your doing to mummy and I hope you die." I still have it and we laugh about it now but I can tell you it hurt at the time I can remember crying myself to sleep. My middle 7 daughter would always hide under her bed crying when we were fighting, trying to calm her down and coax her out upset me as much as she was upset. I was lucky the youngest 4 was too little and doesn't remember much.
I also lost my house so now I have to rent but I'm happy the kids have a roof over their heads.

I had a very good (fuckin expensive) solicitor, turns out he teaches family law at uni, anyway, after meeting with the registrar for the first interview I was buoyed by how much I was going to get in the settlement probably 65% so I went in armed with an ultimatum for the second interview which was She can have the house and I get everything else and don't have to pay spousal maintenance. Her side asked for more I got up said to the room fuck it lets go to the judge and let him decide, I was walking towards central station when I got a call from my solicitor telling me to come back and sign the orders as she accepted. And now she's on the dole.

If you're going to go to divorce set a reasonable goal from the start and play hard ball all the way.

[bigmansam]

Marriages should come with expiry dates, think 7-10 years where at that point you both have an option to walk away or renew again.

[DayMan69]

The thing is, if Brad Pitt can't hang on to his marriage, mere plebs like us have no chance.

If you have a unicorn tucked up at home, well done.

The rest of us need to resign ourselves to an expensive divorce or a cheap (ha!) punt once a week. Either way, having a dick is an expensive pasttime. God i love it.

[justinvn]

I think its more of a punishment for her

[Vader]

You reap what you sow

[mattemeiser]

One positive thing that has come about after all the COVID divorces is that friends from years past have come out of the woodwork & now have much more time for catch-ups.

When those friends were married there was gradually less and less contact from the time of their wedding. It was almost like their wives were rationing the time they could spend. They now appear much more relaxed happier, healthier and less stressed. Almost like a massive weight was taken off their shoulders.

-Matt-

[GoldfishMan]

One positive thing that has come about after all the COVID divorces is that friends from years past have come out of the woodwork & now have much more time for catch-ups.

When those friends were married there was gradually less and less contact from the time of their wedding. It was almost like their wives were rationing the time they could spend. They now appear much more relaxed happier, healthier and less stressed. Almost like a massive weight was taken off their shoulders.

-Matt-

Bro, I can relate!
I can see how COVID can cause divorces. Let's face it, most women are generally much more "bossy" than men. Take the garbage out, do the dishes, clean the house, etc... Those are common orders given by them.

When men were going out to work, there was some let up in this "bossiness", but when he's WFH, there is literally zero escape. He's either working for his job, or working for the boss at home. She sees you relaxing after a hard day's work? Within minutes, she's on your case ... "Why are you not helping with the house work??".

It's tough bro. I'd rather risk my life with the COVID than put up with it any longer. Back to the office I go!

[surething91]

Bro, I can relate!
I can see how COVID can cause divorces. Let's face it, most women are generally much more "bossy" than men. Take the garbage out, do the dishes, clean the house, etc... Those are common orders given by them.

When men were going out to work, there was some let up in this "bossiness", but when he's WFH, there is literally zero escape. He's either working for his job, or working for the boss at home. She sees you relaxing after a hard day's work? Within minutes, she's on your case ... "Why are you not helping with the house work??".

It's tough bro. I'd rather risk my life with the COVID than put up with it any longer. Back to the office I go!
Do you mean when men go out to work they don't do any households tasks? What if the women also go to work?

[dotcumdotinyou]

Men do lots of household tasks, the women just don't appreciate it.

I remember when I was still married she went shopping with her sister In 3 hours I did the washing, hanged the clothes, vacuumed, mopped, put all the kids toys away, emptied the dishwasher and mowed the lawn.
When they got back she looked around and the first words out of her mouth were "you washed the colours with the whites again didn't you, even after I told you not to do that!"

[Climax598]

Men do lots of household tasks, the women just don't appreciate it.

I remember when I was still married she went shopping with her sister In 3 hours I did the washing, hanged the clothes, vacuumed, mopped, put all the kids toys away, emptied the dishwasher and mowed the lawn.
When they got back she looked around and the first words out of her mouth were "you washed the colours with the whites again didn't you, even after I told you not to do that!"
I can understand why she say that 🤣. You just can't be told or teach. When you were doing all the work your brain must be thinking of pussy.

[mattemeiser]

I can understand why she say that 🤣. You just can't be told or teach. When you were doing all the work your brain must be thinking of pussy.

What a horrible women. After all of the work you did, she looks for things to complain about. No thanks for the work you put in.

-Matt-

[mattemeiser]

An update on some of my friends:
After borders opened, it was like the horses running out of the stables for the couples to file for divorce first. Unsurprisingly it was mostly my friends (ex)wives that filed first.

Some of them got taken to the cleaners losing their houses, child support (some) and for a few luckily they didn't have kids yet as they were not too long married. Most were married under 10 years & some for only around 3. It boggles the mind when thinking that the ex partners basically earned $3-400K based on the values of the properties & assets being split & thinking of how many ML/WL sessions they could have had and still with money left over.

When we caught-up after the fact, I asked them about when the crux period was; when they weren't going to work at their relationships and they stated that it was when they were enjoying or proactively looking for or eagerly waiting until the time they could spend absent from their spouses. Away from the nagging, complaining, nit-picking, and when after all their attempts to work on things their former partners were whinging about, instead of relationship improvements or thinking the issues have generally been resolved, they (partners) found new ones to complain about.

Have seen a wide personality change between them. Some are making positive changes going to the gym, wardrobe overhall and a not give a fuck attitude hitting tinder like crazy & some need more support being down in the dumps. They said they got to a point of not caring anymore and knowing they were fighting an uphill battle that wasn't worth fighting for anymore.
Some of the wives were still attractive but didnt light a candle to their former looks. Some ballooned-up after a few kids and the ones that couldn't conceive (even with help) drifted apart and became almost estrained.

One thing that is conclusive across the board is that none of them (my friends) want to get married again. Their words: "marriage for men ended in our parents generation. There's no upside for men today. Too risky, too expensive & look at all thst I have lost."

Some that dated exclusively whites or Europeans are wanting to get their feet wet dating Asians though I have warned that women are the same regardless what race they are & others are going the extra mile & are seriously considering moving to Singapore or Thailand.

-Matt-

[mattemeiser]

Bro, I can relate!
I can see how COVID can cause divorces. Let's face it, most women are generally much more "bossy" than men. Take the garbage out, do the dishes, clean the house, etc... Those are common orders given by them.

When men were going out to work, there was some let up in this "bossiness", but when he's WFH, there is literally zero escape. He's either working for his job, or working for the boss at home. She sees you relaxing after a hard day's work? Within minutes, she's on your case ... "Why are you not helping with the house work??".

It's tough bro. I'd rather risk my life with the COVID than put up with it any longer. Back to the office I go!

The worst thing about wfm is that there is no gap or space in the day when are away from them.

Maybe its because women love gossiping, chatting, bitching & they dont have their female colleagues around so bottle it all up & whinge about you... to you.

The drama, waterworks. All takes a toll mentally for men. Not really emotionally but also a massive time-kill with no resolution.

-Matt-

[woodland]

This thread has been incredibly useful / therapeutic. It's good to know I guess that we're struggling through the same issues. Good luck to y'all. There's a lot of educated and reasonable men on this forum.

[JohnJones]

I had a friend from mainland China whose gf (also Chinese) went back to her hometown during school break just before COVID happened. Since our country had barred even international students abroad from coming back they were uncertain about the future of their relationship and whether she'd be able to get back to Sydney. Slowly their communication drifted away and they broke up. He wasn't too sad about it since he was able to punt without getting caught and was free to chat up other girls although he hadn't much success.

[GoldfishMan]

Their words: "marriage for men ended in our parents generation. There's no upside for men today. Too risky, too expensive & look at all thst I have lost."

Totally agree with this. So much has changed since that generation it makes married life a minefield for men. Plus, there are so many alternatives to married life these days, that love bug must be a love superbug to make a level-headed man want to marry a girl and be with her for the rest of his life.

[mattemeiser]

Totally agree with this. So much has changed since that generation it makes married life a minefield for men. Plus, there are so many alternatives to married life these days, that love bug must be a love superbug to make a level-headed man want to marry a girl and be with her for the rest of his life.

Men can even have families on their own, using donor eggs and surrogates to carry the children.

Its hard enough to find someone you want to spend time with then factoring-in their family members, extended families.

Have heard from one or two friends that married Filipinas that their wives are expected to send money to relatives in Philippines. With them being physically able to work but they choose not too & stating that their relatives (friend's wives are rich; only based on them living in Australia/USA) that it negates the need for them to work.

It has been the source of maritial conflict / arguments as their wives never told them this before-hand and it came as a surprise.

-Matt-

[mattemeiser]

I had a friend from mainland China whose gf (also Chinese) went back to her hometown during school break just before COVID happened. Since our country had barred even international students abroad from coming back they were uncertain about the future of their relationship and whether she'd be able to get back to Sydney. Slowly their communication drifted away and they broke up. He wasn't too sad about it since he was able to punt without getting caught and was free to chat up other girls although he hadn't much success.

At least there's an upside.

It's hard for decent guys in Aus to meet decent girls in Aus (regardless of girls backgrounds).

The smorgasbord of eligible bachelors & girls not putting effort into looks, social media giving them daily doses of endorphins from online attention alters their sense of reality.

-Matt-

[JohnJones]

At least there's an upside.

It's hard for decent guys in Aus to meet decent girls in Aus (regardless of girls backgrounds).

The smorgasbord of eligible bachelors & girls not putting effort into looks, social media giving them daily doses of endorphins from online attention alters their sense of reality.

-Matt-

My rule of thumb when it comes to dating is this:

Put a lot of effort into your own physical and mental health, and choose only those who also put similar effort in such. It is not easy to find someone we really like that is compatible but if we're not chasing them they often appear out of the blue.

Always on the lookout for red flags. If they suddenly ghost you for no apparent reason it's mainly because they either read a stupid dating advice from Reddit or had their "happily" single friends giving them bad love advice. Walk away and tell them you know what they're up to and that it is unacceptable to you.

[Bredandwine]

My rule of thumb when it comes to dating is this:

Put a lot of effort into your own physical and mental health, and choose only those who also put similar effort in such. It is not easy to find someone we really like that is compatible but if we're not chasing them they often appear out of the blue.

Always on the lookout for red flags. If they suddenly ghost you for no apparent reason it's mainly because they either read a stupid dating advice from Reddit or had their "happily" single friends giving them bad love advice. Walk away and tell them you know what they're up to and that it is unacceptable to you.

+10000000 to this. Focus on yourself first before providing for someone else. Time is money and you gotta know what you want and know when to cut your losses

[CharlieM]

It might be an idea to tell them upfront the truth that you have a $1000 a week punting habit.

[Bredandwine]

It might be an idea to tell them upfront the truth that you have a $1000 a week punting habit.

hahaha that helps too - 52k a year sheesh

[cuteguy]

hahaha that helps too - 52k a year sheesh

I'm sure there are other members here who spend more than $52,000 per year if they see many girls or those charging $500 or more per hour on a weekly basis.

[Aloscha]

Concept of marriage was a function of certain religion. A social construct. This forum itself is evidence that we aren't "designed" for monogomous relationships.

As I've grown older, the realisation that there is limited time to enjoy oneself becomes evident. All the money in the world won't help when you can't get it up anymore lol

[Pop Alexandra]

Concept of marriage was a function of certain religion. A social construct. This forum itself is evidence that we aren't "designed" for monogomous relationships.

As I've grown older, the realisation that there is limited time to enjoy oneself becomes evident. All the money in the world won't help when you can't get it up anymore lol

That's exactly what I feel. Getting older ain't no breeze from this perspective, to be sure. Hopefully we'll find closure in a sex shop (https://hatar.ro) or in a strip club. :D

[curiousgeorge1023]

Concept of marriage was a function of certain religion. A social construct. This forum itself is evidence that we aren't "designed" for monogomous relationships.

As I've grown older, the realisation that there is limited time to enjoy oneself becomes evident. All the money in the world won't help when you can't get it up anymore lol

I hear yah sir, YOLO!

[asam46]

Concept of marriage was a function of certain religion. A social construct. This forum itself is evidence that we aren't "designed" for monogomous relationships.

As I've grown older, the realisation that there is limited time to enjoy oneself becomes evident. All the money in the world won't help when you can't get it up anymore lol

I’m way too young to never have sex again. Outsourcing sex to a capable and willing young woman is no different from paying someone to wash your car or mow the lawn. I have the spare cash and it bears doing it yourself!

[cuteguy]

Covid19 lockdowns have resulted in many couples going separate ways. Being together for 24/7 has caused distress and issues for many couples. People get bored after a while and need to look outside to spice up their lives. Some have decided to break up and be free. In the last 2 years, 70% of divorces were initiated by women. It sounds like married men are more willing to stay in relationships even if they are not enjoyable while women see the opposite.

[tkicks]

Covid19 lockdowns have resulted in many couples going separate ways. Being together for 24/7 has caused distress and issues for many couples. People get bored after a while and need to look outside to spice up their lives. Some have decided to break up and be free. In the last 2 years, 70% of divorces were initiated by women. It sounds like married men are more willing to stay in relationships even if they are not enjoyable while women see the opposite.

Yeah and that's explained by the fact that the women know they will keep most of the money and the men know they will lose it! I see this statistic trotted out all the time and it's portrayed as proving that women are unhappier in marriage s than men but all it proves is that divorce law is massively biased towards women

[mattemeiser]

Yeah and that's explained by the fact that the women know they will keep most of the money and the men know they will lose it! I see this statistic trotted out all the time and it's portrayed as proving that women are unhappier in marriage s than men but all it proves is that divorce law is massively biased towards women

Laws today are incredibly unfair to men. With the bias, women are leaving marriages in droves because they are bored, not getting attention whilst their partners are working long hours. Its about the feelings.

Its almost like they expect the lifestyle that their hardworking partners provide but do not comprehend the amount of work it takes to be able to provide that lifestyle.

Then when they are looking for something better, they benefit again by abusing the legal system that is geared to their favour & take a large part of their partner's wealth.

But... the silver lining being that all women are defeated by time. They will lose their looks & potentially if mismanaged, lose their ill-gotten gains from the divorce & will be miserable old hag alone.

-Matt-