Do male shop owners fuck their female staff?

[Fred Flintstone]

I sometimes wonder if the papasans get to fuck their female talent? Do they test drive them as part of the interview process? From an ongoing business perspective, this would be a bad move as it creates tension in the workplace. I’m sure it’s happened but seems like it would generally be a bad move, much like in any other workplace. Girls would complain of favoritism too if a relationship did exist between girl and owner.

I known a female RNT owner who would always force her MLs to give her a massage (legit) during any customer downtime. Many girls quit early as they didn’t want to keep giving her a free massage

[GoldfishMan]

That's a good question. I don't think there exists any unspoken rule between a pimp and the girls. I guess they would fuck the girls if they fancy them, but they would probably pay for it like a normal customer.

That's assuming he doesn't have a partner. If he does, I'm pretty sure his partner would've setup a huge spotlight on him to make sure he doesn't 偷吃! 😂

[rooter]

"Rule number 2, don't get high on your own supply" Scarface.

[Fred Flintstone]

"Rule number 2, don't get high on your own supply" Scarface.

Or “don’t shit in your own nest”

[Carissawhore]

I knew one papasan who used to test drive girls in his shop if he liked them, he also dated WLs and was pretty old, he sold his brothel and asked couple of WLs to be his partners in same house with him in polygamy relationship.

[warwick1]

A married Papasan who co-owned the shop with his wife got busted for test driving MLs at other shops, could not happen to nicer tool...

[storry_teller]

A married Papasan who co-owned the shop with his wife got busted for test driving MLs at other shops, could not happen to nicer tool...

Your call is J and P at Artamon, right?

[warwick1]

Your call is J and P at Artamon, right?
Yep,................

[asiafever]

Your call is J and P at Artamon, right?

That was my guess also.

[storry_teller]

Why do you ask???

Just asking. Sounds like what I heard, too

[cumquat]

Cathy was mighty pissed … amongst some other owners …😂😂😂, she thought at first he was just a normal regular guy …. but was busy scouting talent

[asiafever]

Cathy was mighty pissed … amongst some other owners …������, she thought at first he was just a normal regular guy …. but was busy scouting talent

I was wondering if that was the case (Don't know who Cathy is so not specifically referring to any one shop.)
It now gives some context to a conversation I had. I assumed there was a professional relationship with Broadway, was that not the case?

[cumquat]

I was wondering if that was the case (Don't know who Cathy is so not specifically referring to any one shop.)
It now gives some context to a conversation I had. I assumed there was a professional relationship with Broadway, was that not the case?

Cathy aka D’privilege.

Not certain if j& P had anything to do with 227, though knew they were keen to get a bit of exposure from Jessie setting up Saigon princess at St. Mary

[yug]

That's a good question. I don't think there exists any unspoken rule between a pimp and the girls. I guess they would fuck the girls if they fancy them, but they would probably pay for it like a normal customer.

That's assuming he doesn't have a partner. If he does, I'm pretty sure his partner would've setup a huge spotlight on him to make sure he doesn't 偷吃! 😂

What he said!
One of the girls from a small shop in Surry Hills told me long time ago that, if the boss liked a girl, he would just pay them for sex.

[asiafever]

Cathy aka D’privilege.

Not certain if j& P had anything to do with 227, though knew they were keen to get a bit of exposure from Jessie setting up Saigon princess at St. Mary

Ah ok. Never been to D'privilege.

Yeah I recall them calling SP a "sister shop."

Reason I ask about Broadway is one day I was, without prompting on my part, told of a girl working there and asked if I saw her (despite having never been to Broadway) to ask if she wanted to return to their shop. I found it a slightly odd interaction for a number of reasons.

[Meng]

Nothing wrong with testing the girls out so long as they pay them normally for it. If they demand it for free then that's a dick move.

[cumquat]

Nothing wrong with testing the girls out so long as they pay them normally for it. If they demand it for free then that's a dick move.

Big Dick move and also can end up in court and possible jail time

Couple of recent cases I recall .. of casting ‘couch practices’

[Philyum]

Heard from a wl apparently awhile back. Apparently the owner from a certain shop in the fairfield area (not going to say which shop) does but im not sure whether to believe her or not.

[aussiegaigin]

I wonder if any girls offer services to the male boss to garner favouritism?

[Fred Flintstone]

Cathy aka D’privilege.



I’d been to D’Privilege in Chatswood a few times and saw the stunning Cathy for waxing. After the wax, she would send me upstairs with one of her Viet hotties for some rub and tug.

Can anyone care to shed some light on the infamous Cathy? Seems quite a few here knew her very well. Now that D’Privilege is permanently closed, we might not see Cathy ever again☹️

[limbi8888]

i'm sure they do at least once, otherwise how can u tell if they can work. End of the day its a job, if u can't do it with anyone u shouldnt be in the industry.

[limbi8888]

I wonder if any girls offer services to the male boss to garner favouritism?

Already happens with most jobs lol

[Warrabong]

I would totally have a casting cough for job applicants

[Philyum]

I would totally have a casting cough for job applicants


Me to mate haha

[Labia Vortex]

Best move would be to ask best customers to do the test driving

[cumquat]

Me to mate haha

Sounds like Covid .. stay safe

[asiafever]

Sounds like Covid .. stay safe

:shout:

Seriously, I don't think it's a good way to run a business. As LV said have good reliable customers who can be the testers but as an owner I don't think you should be tapping your own girls. Definitely shouldn't be expecting it for free, you've got to have more integrity than that.

[Raybo]

don't screw the crew. Get regulars to assess, easily the best way.

[Cracker38]

Cathy was mighty pissed … amongst some other owners …😂😂😂, she thought at first he was just a normal regular guy …. but was busy scouting talent

Ha, that’s so funny. I actually got accused by the dickhead at Artarmon of trying to get their girls to work at other shops. I knew Cathy and Jessie and Alice. I got tired of Cathy’s shop and went to try Artarmon. Some girls ended up leaving, and one of the girls at Artarmon made up some story that I had recruited the girls to go work with Alice and Jessie at their new setup. Claimed I was friends with them on Facebook (have never given Facebook to any ML). I’d never even met the girl who was making this shit up, but that still didn’t stop Joseph from sending me abusive messages.

[schloong]

I would totally have a casting cough for job applicants


Casting "cough"? Surely you mean "couch"... hehe

[Sharphorse]

Casting "cough"? Surely you mean "couch"... hehe

Doesn’t sound very Covid safe, does it?

[Riff888]

I'm pretty sure it's happening right now with a boss and a WL from what the girl was saying.

The boss is spending way too much time with her and she's obviously being favoured over the other girls plus she knows a lot about the workings of the business.

I wouldn't be surprised if she runs her own shop one day.

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[AHLUNGOR]

don't screw the crew. Get regulars to assess, easily the best way.

Don’t know much about the FS scenes as far as test drive goes. But the 5 Star brother told me a few times that they were Not allowed to touch the WLs, so whenever I PM and asked about whether some new busty girls were natural, always got asked back for me to go checking instead ......... lol 😂

But for RnT shop I do believe the new MLs usually will need to give the Mamasan a massage to show the level of skills they have. Whether they can tug well I suppose the Mamasan can always ask a regular to try and assess.

Unless she is totally NTI then the shop will need to provide all the training - me had done a few of this kind of broken in for my friendly shops a few times in the good old days ......... haha (all paying BTW, but you got the free double from the “trainer” at the time). And the trainer usually disappeared quietly just before turn over....... lol 😝

[4647]

don't screw the crew. Get regulars to assess, easily the best way.

Haha integrity and the sex industry go hand in hand

[Cracker38]

I’d been to D’Privilege in Chatswood a few times and saw the stunning Cathy for waxing. After the wax, she would send me upstairs with one of her Viet hotties for some rub and tug.

Can anyone care to shed some light on the infamous Cathy? Seems quite a few here knew her very well. Now that D’Privilege is permanently closed, we might not see Cathy ever again☹️

Has Cathy officially permanently closed the doors on D'Privilege? I haven't actually heard anything. Has been a while since going there, her attitude had turned quite bad in recent years and I moved on to other places.

[Rooster18]

Wouldnt it be like owning a really good restaurant but not allowed to eat your own food?

I understand the practical reason why you shouldnt but it would be really tough... Maybe if male owner, it would be better to be gay..?

[GoldfishMan]

How about we flip the question around. Would you fuck all the girls in your own shop at least once if you owned a shop?

[Fred Flintstone]

How about we flip the question around. Would you fuck all the girls in your own shop at least once if you owned a shop?
Nope, never. You would instantly lose respect with the girls. There needs to be a clear line between boss and worker, otherwise all discipline and control goes out the window.

[Fred Flintstone]

Has Cathy officially permanently closed the doors on D'Privilege? I haven't actually heard anything. Has been a while since going there, her attitude had turned quite bad in recent years and I moved on to other places.

There’s a For Lease sign on the door. Shut for good

[GoldfishMan]

Nope, never. You would instantly lose respect with the girls. There needs to be a clear line between boss and worker, otherwise all discipline and control goes out the window.

But think about it, if you're an owner, surely you'd be well known in the industry. Imagine you going to a rival shop to get your rocks off.
Not saying I don't agree with you... Having discipline is an important thing especially when running a business... But it probably means your punting career is pretty much over in your local area at least!

[Fred Flintstone]

But think about it, if you're an owner, surely you'd be well known in the industry. Imagine you going to a rival shop to get your rocks off.
Not saying I don't agree with you... Having discipline is an important thing especially when running a business... But it probably means your punting career is pretty much over in your local area at least!
You raise a good point. If I owned a successful RnT shop, I’d have so much tax free money that I’d rent a room at the Hilton and dial in hotties from the escort sites. No one would find out! All paid in cash.

On another note, I’ve seen Chinese chefs and the whole kitchen crew going to eat at another restaurant at the end of their shift at 2.00am. It might be sister restaurant or they might just want to escape somewhere else for supper .

[Philyum]

Doesn’t sound very Covid safe, does it?

Very covid safe

[wilisno]

You raise a good point. If I owned a successful RnT shop, I’d have so much tax free money that I’d rent a room at the Hilton and dial in hotties from the escort sites. No one would find out! All paid in cash.

On another note, I’ve seen Chinese chefs and the whole kitchen crew going to eat at another restaurant at the end of their shift at 2.00am. It might be sister restaurant or they might just want to escape somewhere else for supper .
Restaurant industry is different than the sex industry. Restaurant staffs can eat at other restaurants without getting into trouble, because they can’t steal recipes ! But sex shop owner can’t punt at other shops without being suspected of poaching…

[GoldfishMan]

Restaurant industry is different than the sex industry. Restaurant staffs can eat at other restaurants without getting into trouble, because they can’t steal recipes ! But sex shop owner can’t punt at other shops without being suspected of poaching…

Yes, and it could get ugly real quick.
I think moral of the story here is, probably not a good idea to become an owner if you really like to punt in shops. Can probably get a lot of pussy using "other methods" though. If you're successful, your rep in the underworld would probably be good. That means you'd have access to young girls that hang with the gangs going out to party (karaoke, clubs, etc).

[wilisno]

Yes, and it could get ugly real quick.
I think moral of the story here is, probably not a good idea to become an owner if you really like to punt in shops. Can probably get a lot of pussy using "other methods" though. If you're successful, your rep in the underworld would probably be good. That means you'd have access to young girls that hang with the gangs going out to party (karaoke, clubs, etc).
When there’s a will, there’s a way ! ;) ;) ;)

[Kimura]

word on the street is that some Asian brothels, they do test the goods and make sure the girls keep a standard when doing service.
Also when the receptionists ask if the girl was good or not, if a customer gives them bad feedback there is a possibility (no guarantee) that might do some disciplinary action to make sure the girl's service is up to a good standard

[s21ultra]

absolutely! why else would you go into thsi bussiness aside from money. 😁

[cuteguy]

One girl who use to work for a private escort agency told me that before she got the job she had to do the boss. He did it to all new girls. Other times when she would return from her job with the money he would ask her to give him a BJ or have sex because he felt horny and she did it as she had no other alternative.

[Rogeryou]

One girl who use to work for a private escort agency told me that before she got the job she had to do the boss. He did it to all new girls. Other times when she would return from her job with the money he would ask her to give him a BJ or have sex because he felt horny and she did it as she had no other alternative.

I have been told similar, 110% you would be sampling the goods

[PKING2]

@cuteguy
What the chance that 9s owner sampled rola lol.

They have fans gathering and the ticket is 500$, i don't know what you get over there lol

[cuteguy]

If the boss is female then maybe she will have someone she knows well who will test the girls and provide feedback to the shop. There would be some shops that have their loyal testers who report back to the boss or manager about the girl's service.

[Nebuzu]

Heard this from one WL and she refused to work there when was asked to sleep with the owner...

Can't say I wouldn't want to do it if owned a shop, but really should be asking for feedback from customers imo

[GT101]

I’m sure many of them do. I’ve been to an establishment where the boss told me on of the girls was really good as he had tried her earlier in the week. He told me he tries the girls out to make sure there service is up to standard.

[kingwally]

A guy that I used to work with lived next door to a Swedish guy that used to own a brothel in Blacktown who said to my ex-workmate "yaar...I get a blow yob every 2 or 3 days, I hev a girl that is my blowyob qveen...yaar , she is velly gud!"

[priapus1966]

At the moment there is a significant excess of demand, (number of Punters) over that of supply, (number of girls). In these circumstances the girls have been able to dictate terms, both in prices and services offered. There is no good reason why a girl should agree to any special deals for the boss. So far as testing the girls on application is concerned, why should the girls agree. Even if she turns out to be a dud she can still make good money for herself and the boss, for a few weeks at the worst.

I am ancient enough to remember the "recession we had to have," when over supply, of otherwise unemployed females was the situation for a year or three. Prices were down and inclusive extras were quite common. Good for punters while it lasted, but sadly it did not last. Bosses probably felt the same.

[huytran]

Good owners don't mix work with pleasure, but I guess the temptation will always be there!

[bung72]

I suspect it is like any other business.... its never a great business plan to fuck your staff.....

[Meng]

Don't see a problem sampling the girls so long as the owner pays the girl.

Asking for freebie is a scum move.

[dt333]

I read on this forum there was a marriage breakdown at 84a because the husband slept with the girls.

[JohnJones]

Imagine sampling your wife's best friend in front of your wife just because they're best friends and you're married to one of them.

Basically only stupid entitled brothel owners think they can sample their workers for free. I don't think many girls would agree to it, psychologically many women see someone that they've had sex with once but crosses path almost every week as awkward. And no one likes awkward situations.

I've been in close calls a few times with co-workers in previous office workplaces. Flirting which almost end up with us kissing when the boss isn't in the office. Held myself back every time because I didn't want for either of us to start looking for a new job although we never stopped flirting. I reckon if I'm a brothel manager or owner I wouldn't even think of "sampling" my workers - they're my cash cows and I don't want to lose a single cash cow especially with the lack of talent these days.

Just go to another shop and sample girls from that shop that isn't also working in yours.

[JohnJones]

One girl who use to work for a private escort agency told me that before she got the job she had to do the boss. He did it to all new girls. Other times when she would return from her job with the money he would ask her to give him a BJ or have sex because he felt horny and she did it as she had no other alternative.

Example of someone who writes a forum post using his little brain rather than looking at business POV. I guess the only business where the owner can get away with sampling his workers is all those $150/hr shops. Those fat dumplings don't mind being banged by their bosses because no one wants to bang them anyways

[asiafever]

Example of someone who writes a forum post using his little brain rather than looking at business POV. I guess the only business where the owner can get away with sampling his workers is all those $150/hr shops. Those fat dumplings don't mind being banged by their bosses because no one wants to bang them anyways

I don't for a second doubt the validity of cuteguys anecdote, he's been around these parts a good while and isn't prone to exaggeration or telling furphies.
There most certainly would be cowboys like that, and logic would tell us that they probably wouldn't last very long, as once girls heard how things are run there vs good agencies/shops they would look elsewhere.

[GoldfishMan]

Example of someone who writes a forum post using his little brain rather than looking at business POV. I guess the only business where the owner can get away with sampling his workers is all those $150/hr shops. Those fat dumplings don't mind being banged by their bosses because no one wants to bang them anyways
While I agree that it doesn't happen in a brothel and is just the worst move an owner can make (imagine what kind of gossip would go around that shop!), it does happen with the agencies.

I live next door to an agency boss and I tell ya, the number of hotties coming and going to his apartment makes me feel so inadequate, lol! I can sometimes hear the girl FOAMing too, that MF!

[Sibon]

Do male shop owners fuck their female staff?

Most shops owners are Mamasans anyway. So your question should be:

"Do Mamasan shop owners fuck their female staff?"

The answer is "Yes if they are desperate."

[cuteguy]

Example of someone who writes a forum post using his little brain rather than looking at business POV. I guess the only business where the owner can get away with sampling his workers is all those $150/hr shops. Those fat dumplings don't mind being banged by their bosses because no one wants to bang them anyways

I don't need to invent stories JohnJones or use my little brain to post comments in this forum. I've spoken to many girls and heard their true stories and life accounts over time. This particular very attractive Asian girl worked for an upmarket escort agency in Sydney and not a $150 hour shop many years ago. We would catch up at times and she would reveal what her life was and her job. At times it was not pleasant to hear and yes, her boss would demand sex from his girls.

[Rogeryou]

I read on this forum there was a marriage breakdown at 84a because the husband slept with the girls.

Very good pussy at 84a I don’t blame the guy hahah

[colin.oscopy]

I wasn't the owner but Mistys in Bondi Junction used me test all the new girls and provide feedback. In return I got 50% off..She used to have the best caucasian girls. Good ol'days.

[Bavidzowie]

Very interesting read, never thought about this…

[BerasAsing]

Thought better of this post.

[cuteguy]

I wasn't the owner but Mistys in Bondi Junction used me test all the new girls and provide feedback. In return I got 50% off..She used to have the best caucasian girls. Good ol'days.

You sure were lucky to test the new girls on the job. Many guys would envy you. Did you test new girls that were not your type or to your liking?

[cumquat]

Of course they do.

They test them up front and, in some cases, hire them out to their friends at discounts. Most privates who used to work in brothels will tell you their stories. Even if only 10% of it is true, it will make your hair stand on end.

Being a hooker with a pimp is not a walk in the park by any means.

Of course they do…

Of course

They
Must

Benny do what you say .. let’s hear the detail and the stats , not just a general comment , otherwise it’s just Blathering and bleating

Like the rest of us here

[cumquat]

You mean you would like me to lay an accusation against a specific proprietor on a public forum that even non-members can read?

You’ll have to try better bait than that Cumquat.

Accusation? Your thoughts not mine.


It’s a sex forum after all why so squeamish

You can like many do , substitute names dates and locales …

Come on Benny old chop , you can do better than that

P.S stats and deets, bro , and do as you so smote others … or
It’s just a circle jerk

PPS you ever watch Benny hill as a kid ?

[cumquat]

Wrong lube. Keep fishing.

As you whispered … so none applied …

subtext : you can’t

[cumquat]

As a famous Australian entrepreneur once said, "Just step back and let the idiots open their mouths wider"

and here I was with the thought , I was in side show alley … we are still in this same vexed thread of idiots fools and those that spill their pearls …

of course i expect you’ll only load another ping pong… but rather than deflect , why not just do as you dispense too all others and layout the deets and stats that clearly appeal.

Too save thread hopping what’s your budget for blue mountains accommodation ….

[riversite15]

Yes they do, mostly for quality control. They do the same in Asian countries such as Thailand and Japan.

[Rookiestones]

Yes they do, mostly for quality control. They do the same in Asian countries such as Thailand and Japan.

Reminds me of casting couch and fake agent (both have some pretty awesome talent) 😏

[footboy2012]

I can definitely confirm a cauc shop I visit regularly does fuck the staff. I know this because I asked him who he recommended and he said I have done her etc

[Vader]

I know a very well known inner city shop where the boss fucks each new girl at their interview bareback without giving them any money for it.

[wilisno]

What a bullshit artist Scanlan ! Shops need girls more than girls need shops nowadays, unless they are those rejects from all other shops.

[alc]

Who is scanlans alt? From memory Scanlan was a world or two worse than anything in the forum these days, warwick1 included.

[cumquat]

One Sugarbabe I had meet ups with last year was picked up on Seeking by a guy who asked her to come over to his house for a massage. She naively thought he was giving her the massage.

He nuded up and handed her the lotion to massage him. During the massage he then proceeded to tell her how much she could make in his shop depending on what she did with customers. Picking them up off Seeking was his recruitment tactic.

She worked for him for about 3 months and then left. I did not follow where she went next unfortunately as we stopped seeing each other, but she did confirm he would try it on with the girls.


Haha .. finally ‘hard facts’ … you are a funny Bennzoid….a whole new sub class of prescription … “she confirmed he tried it on”.. must be so

Of course it must

You never seem to chronicle the demise Of your UBER - SB/street hooker fantasies .. is it because as you oddly/incorrectly yelped … I’m (eventually I think , I am , am I ) Fukn them for free … SB’s like any good street walker , walks when there ain’t the 3 big C’s and no B , one of them ain’t cock

Btw thx for the CBJ .. little bit toothy but you’ll get there

[cumquat]

Do you need a cup of tea and a lie down Cumquat?

Investing so much time in a fellow member tells me you are either a little too obsessed or insecure.

It’s not a good look for you.

I hope you have a lovely day.

Reciprocity , dear chop .

Already made a frank declaration of mild infatuation , and on a public forum .. I just seem to (this week) like the clip clop, cadence of your pastings .

Flight to catch and a newly converted WG/SB-SH to say hi too

[cuteguy]

One Sugarbabe I had meet ups with last year was picked up on Seeking by a guy who asked her to come over to his house for a massage. She naively thought he was giving her the massage.

He nuded up and handed her the lotion to massage him. During the massage he then proceeded to tell her how much she could make in his shop depending on what she did with customers. Picking them up off Seeking was his recruitment tactic.

She worked for him for about 3 months and then left. I did not follow where she went next unfortunately as we stopped seeing each other, but she did confirm he would try it on with the girls.

Not surprised that this doesn't occur to naive and vulnerable girls lured into this line of work by smooth talking pimps or guys who know how to appeal to girls and make them believe everything they say.

[Labia Vortex]

So how is the quality of service offered by a WL in a brothel verified ?

[Meng]

The shop owner fucking the girls to test them out is perfectly fine so long as they pay the full price to the girl. I mean it'll be no different from a normal customer.

[Aloscha]

Agree with bro Meng. It's like a probationary review for the job lol. Owner needs to know WL won't destroy the shops reputation but the WL should get compensated for the test drive.

Imagine if shops advertised for the position of "quality control punter" who gets the test drive duties but at discounted rates. How many if us here would apply lol

[colin.oscopy]

You sure were lucky to test the new girls on the job. Many guys would envy you. Did you test new girls that were not your type or to your liking?
I didn't have a choice but she only employed the best girls (no Asians).. @50% off beggers can't be choosers...
Besides many newbies allowed a lot more touching and free extras..and they really got off. I felt I was the one servicing them...miss the old days.

[GoldfishMan]

So how is the quality of service offered by a WL in a brothel verified ?
Surely you've witnessed how a girl's rate has increased from when they start. It's happened many times before with many different girls at Ginza, for example. She starts off with their "base rate", gets booked out all the time due to popularity, then her rate goes up.
She doesn't need to prove anything else.

[The Machine]

I like to think they do lol

[Lookha]

What would you do if you were the shop owner or the pappasan?

Maybe the girls have some free time? Why not…… compensate them one way or another.

It seems that the sexy girls are in high demand and have a range of work options. They leave quickly if they don’t like the management. It also seems that the working girls do very little for low compensation.

A friend of mine owned a shop and had a reciprocal relationship with some of the girls.

[cuteguy]

It's still wrong to take advantage of someone in order to give them a job and satisfy your own sexual pleasure.

[fud]

Heard the once male owner at Roseville was visiting girls at other shops but didn't sample his own shop girls.

[cuteguy]

Heard the once male owner at Roseville was visiting girls at other shops but didn't sample his own shop girls.

Was he recruiting the girls to work at his shop?

[fud]

Was he recruiting the girls to work at his shop?

That's what I thought but the WL at the shop who mentioned it, didn't think so. Plus he had a weakness for the white stuff apparently

[victor_bennet]

It's still wrong to take advantage of someone in order to give them a job and satisfy your own sexual pleasure.
Poor those newbies or those demanding for money been taken advantage

[Meng]

It's still wrong to take advantage of someone in order to give them a job and satisfy your own sexual pleasure.
If the shop owner pays them then it's no different than a WL seeing a customer.

[alc]

It's still wrong to take advantage of someone in order to give them a job and satisfy your own sexual pleasure.

Since we're on a punting forum I'll say we.

What, exactly, are we doing every time we punt?

[PKING2]

Since we're on a punting forum I'll say we.

What, exactly, are we doing every time we punt?

Paying for bang a girl lol.

[Double_Adapter]

It's still wrong to take advantage of someone in order to give them a job and satisfy your own sexual pleasure.

Sounds like the whole entertainment industry didn't get that memo.
Every Hollywood movie actress, catwalk model, singer, dancer etc has gained immediate fame, promotion, or a leading movie role this way...... Is it right? No, but this kind of shit has been going on since the dawn of time across every corner of the planet.

[LuvAsianPuss]

Of course they do. Ever heard of the casting couch?