When do you think private girls will drop their rates

[Johnisfun1969]

This has become a pet hate to see adds posted on sites where average or ugly WL started to charge more than $500 for a punt. As most are offering outcalls they also charge for Uber or taxi.

So for average punter with blue balls like me it’s been safer as well as easier in the wallet don’t even think of punting. But now that we are getting closer to 80% double vaccination by 18Oct. How long do you think the prices are going to be high. Some of the girls charging 700-800 look really hot but I find it hard to go and splurge on a punt. I reckon the prices are going to be dropped as soon as the borders open. They will drop further once international travel is allowed.

[asiafever]

When shops are open and similar quality girls are 1/3 the price or cheaper, there will be a price adjustment you'd think. Until now there has been no real alternative, starting Monday massage will be an alternative and then the following week FS is back in the game.

[Labia Vortex]

There has been an increase in those wishing to make a quick buck
Amateurs… TS…quite a few unattractive and many fake or agency
$350 seems to be the average with a number charging up to $500
Fools and their money are soon parted
Be careful out there

[Climax598]

As long as the big well established brothel's are not increasing their prices then private rate will come down. Is a supply demand things. The private will try to maintain their presence rate but once demand is low their prices will come down. Competition is the word. Just wait till the bonders open

[Nabz]

Scarlet blue is loaded with ladies charging 650+/hr.

[northsidelegend]

Scarlet blue is loaded with ladies charging 650+/hr.

Any escort charging more than $200 for half an hour is deluded and is missing out on rivers of revenue.
On the other hand, she would probably get less wear and tear and end up with richer clients who can become regulars.
The richer guys might not feel safe going to an 'unknown' for a bargain root.

The price of pussy in real terms has been plummeting for years.
Prostitution and punting are now socially acceptable, which has not only pumped up demand but supply as well.
Wages in other industries are stagnant and obviously WLs don't pay tax.
They can make a lot more money by doing extras and gangbangs.

WLs know that they have a decade to make their money (18-28).
At 29 they need to start discounting hard.

#pussyologist lol

[local]

This has become a pet hate to see adds posted on sites where average or ugly WL started to charge more than $500 for a punt. As most are offering outcalls they also charge for Uber or taxi.

So for average punter with blue balls like me it’s been safer as well as easier in the wallet don’t even think of punting. But now that we are getting closer to 80% double vaccination by 18Oct. How long do you think the prices are going to be high. Some of the girls charging 700-800 look really hot but I find it hard to go and splurge on a punt. I reckon the prices are going to be dropped as soon as the borders open. They will drop further once international travel is allowed.

When the shops open, the prices will drop as the sales start to slow as there will be more suppliers.
THe only ones who wont drop are those who never raised them.

Its the difference between servicing your current customers and having to hawk for new.

[Littlewonder]

When things return to something like normal and the shops reopen and the competition increases.

[GoldfishMan]

Lots of factors at play here, John, but reopening is defo a step in the right direction. Plus the welfare payments being stopped on reopen may help drive the prices down. Who knows how much of that made it to the pockets of the private WLs.

[Raybo]

When Vader says so...

[Johnisfun1969]

When the shops open, the prices will drop as the sales start to slow as there will be more suppliers.
THe only ones who wont drop are those who never raised them.

Its the difference between servicing your current customers and having to hawk for new.

You make an interesting point on servicing exiting clients or finding new ones. Some girls who don’t have regulars will drop their prices. I guess from these girls point of view they were not being greedy but charging for the risk they were taking of catching covid and even being fined same as what banks and credit agencies do by charging higher interest to riskier clients. I have a feeling the rates won’t come back to pre covid levels. Once the price goes up the service provider does not drop quickly.

Like many on this site I too have fascination for hot and young Asian girls. If the girl can speak well it somehow is even better. This is where the Aussie born Asian girls are better as they are petite but cobfident and hold a conversation. I have only tried Bianca once from 219 Croydon. She left the industry soon afterwards. I had only booked her for half hour as it was my first time in this joint. But it was worth it and I kept thinking of her for a few days later. For some reason I could not go back. But later found out what a legend she was but by then she left the industry. For me it was good to be able to have a proper chat which you can’t with majority of Asian working in massage or brothers. There are some private Aussie Asian girls who were charging $700 this year. I would not mind trying them only if they are in the 300-400 range. I don’t think these girls will drop their price that low. I may be wrong but as far as I can remember pre covid there would not be many Asian girls charging more than 500.

I think the prices will drop marginally this year and may drop to reasonable level by mid next year when new talent is allowed into the country. Happy punting guys take it easy next week.

[local]

You make an interesting point on servicing exiting clients or finding new ones. Some girls who don’t have regulars will drop their prices. I guess from these girls point of view they were not being greedy but charging for the risk they were taking of catching covid and even being fined same as what banks and credit agencies do by charging higher interest to riskier clients. I have a feeling the rates won’t come back to pre covid levels. Once the price goes up the service provider does not drop quickly.

Like many on this site I too have fascination for hot and young Asian girls. If the girl can speak well it somehow is even better. This is where the Aussie born Asian girls are better as they are petite but cobfident and hold a conversation. I have only tried Bianca once from 219 Croydon. She left the industry soon afterwards. I had only booked her for half hour as it was my first time in this joint. But it was worth it and I kept thinking of her for a few days later. For some reason I could not go back. But later found out what a legend she was but by then she left the industry. For me it was good to be able to have a proper chat which you can’t with majority of Asian working in massage or brothers. There are some private Aussie Asian girls who were charging $700 this year. I would not mind trying them only if they are in the 300-400 range. I don’t think these girls will drop their price that low. I may be wrong but as far as I can remember pre covid there would not be many Asian girls charging more than 500.

I think the prices will drop marginally this year and may drop to reasonable level by mid next year when new talent is allowed into the country. Happy punting guys take it easy next week.

One thing most forget is the number of customers at the high rates were the girls actually seeing ?
During lockdown, it was also a means of income replacement.

Once the shops re-open the number of those will to pay the extra will drop as the shop rate is much cheaper. And the shops will be effectively fighting for your business.

Don't forget about the punter's income as well. We are heading into uncertain times economically so things are constantly changing the amount of spare funds available.
Additionally, don't forget any new wave, especially if our government knocks back on boosters.

[vitrium]

It depends entirely on the girl, their service and the network they have managed to build.

The only WLs that will be able to continue charging higher rates (COVID rates if you will) are the ones that have established a network of high rollers. Wealthier dudes who don't mind paying a premium for hot young talent, and more importantly, privacy and discretion.

I imagine this will become difficult to maintain over the coming months as shops re-open and we start to get more international WLs on the scene again.

Supply and demand will normalise but it will take time. We're probably still a year or more away from private prices recoiling to near pre-covid rates.

I was seeing this smoking hot Brazilian milf in the city before COVID, who was charging me $150/30mins. During COVID her price gradually climbed. She's now charging $350/30mins. Pretty steep. And certainly too expensive for most punters.

[local]

It depends entirely on the girl, their service and the network they have managed to build.

The only WLs that will be able to continue charging higher rates (COVID rates if you will) are the ones that have established a network of high rollers. Wealthier dudes who don't mind paying a premium for hot young talent, and more importantly, privacy and discretion.

I imagine this will become difficult to maintain over the coming months as shops re-open and we start to get more international WLs on the scene again.

Supply and demand will normalise but it will take time. We're probably still a year or more away from private prices recoiling to near pre-covid rates.

I was seeing this smoking hot Brazilian milf in the city before COVID, who was charging me $150/30mins. During COVID her price gradually climbed. She's now charging $350/30mins. Pretty steep. And certainly too expensive for most punters.

Before this lockdown, I was speaking to a mate who was bitching (just about the previous lockdown and supply) so I suggest that he find a local within walking distance (he is at Wolli Creek) as he had a wide local choice.
He found a mature lady in Arncliffe who he has continued to see regularly. She hasn't raised her rate at all and has plenty of regulars it seems.
Now with things opening up, he has indicated why bother with others unless something really takes his fancy.
Thats the key, he's happy as is, but doesn't mind the occasional fancy.

Those that have raise their rates will suffer as they have alienated their previous clients/customers, who probably wont go back even if they lower their rates.
Most punters just don't like being treated as pay pigs.

[vitrium]

Before this lockdown, I was speaking to a mate who was bitching (just about the previous lockdown and supply) so I suggest that he find a local within walking distance (he is at Wolli Creek) as he had a wide local choice.
He found a mature lady in Arncliffe who he has continued to see regularly. She hasn't raised her rate at all and has plenty of regulars it seems.
Now with things opening up, he has indicated why bother with others unless something really takes his fancy.
Thats the key, he's happy as is, but doesn't mind the occasional fancy.

Those that have raise their rates will suffer as they have alienated their previous clients/customers, who probably wont go back even if they lower their rates.
Most punters just don't like being treated as pay pigs.

They are essentially marketing themselves. So many things need to be considered. Like service list, time, price etc. If they raise their price, they are betting that they will still get enough work to make the same income with less of their own time invested.

COVID has put many WLs in a privileged position where they can charge a premium for a 'standard' service. And charge more for extras that were once considered part of a standard service. I'm okay with girls charging more money in general. That's how you run a business - building a reputation and product up so you can charge more money. That's good for them.

What I don't like is how fragmented the services are becoming. It seems like if you want anything beyond basic condom sex (like kissing, extra shot, daty, 69, massage etc) You have to fork over another $50, then another $50, then another, and so on. It's a bit of a stitch up. And it's confusing for punters as well.

I've seen private WLs with a services list more complicated than the menu at my local Chinese restaurant. There's a fine line between appropriately raising prices based of market conditions. And price gouging. And there's a lot of private WLs taking the piss at the moment. It won't last too much longer though.

The easy solution to that is - just go to a good local shop which has all-inclusive prices and a fair set of rules for the the WL and the punter.

[Johnisfun1969]

It depends entirely on the girl, their service and the network they have managed to build.

The only WLs that will be able to continue charging higher rates (COVID rates if you will) are the ones that have established a network of high rollers. Wealthier dudes who don't mind paying a premium for hot young talent, and more importantly, privacy and discretion.

I imagine this will become difficult to maintain over the coming months as shops re-open and we start to get more international WLs on the scene again.

Supply and demand will normalise but it will take time. We're probably still a year or more away from private prices recoiling to near pre-covid rates.

I was seeing this smoking hot Brazilian milf in the city before COVID, who was charging me $150/30mins. During COVID her price gradually climbed. She's now charging $350/30mins. Pretty steep. And certainly too expensive for most punters.

Yes the basics of economics is always how prices are maintained in free market. But I think this is just a perception that the working girls build steady stream of regulars. The way it works for me is when I had a good time I would repeat the same girl. Then on every meet what was exciting and fun starts to wear off and becomes boring. And eventually stop seeing the same girl. I guess it may be same for most others. Of course you may go back
To your regular once in a while but the regular may not get bulk of your business. The reason for punting is the excitement of seeing someone new. The guys who are loaded and heaps of money to spend on this activity would also have higher expectations. Being rich does not mean you would splurge your cash on average girls. In my opinion these girls who are charging 700-1000 now from the 400-500 before covid are clever and know some men are willing to pay as there is little competition in the market. They may be willing to sit around and have 1-2 clients a week. All they need is one to cover their expenses.

[Riff888]

I've been paying between $250 - $300 for privates lately, which has basically stayed the same for the last 5 to 6 years or so.

So I'm not sure what's going on here.

Just read the 141 Private AR section.

Here's just one example

https://www.escortsandbabes.com.au/Profile/NSW/Wentworth-Point/Independent/Jennybany/

This girl worked at a popular inner city shop before lockdown under the same name. Great value for $250.

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[local]

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[local]

They may be willing to sit around and have 1-2 clients a week. All they need is one to cover their expenses.

And they may do the same after things open.

I think a lot of punters will remember the gougers.
Especially those who advertised cheaper than they were actually charging... (oh special times now). SO advertisng 300 which was more than the 200 previously, but saying it really is 400 just didn't go down well with a lot of punters who will remember...

[Ease]

I've been paying between $250 - $300 for privates lately, which has basically stayed the same for the last 5 to 6 years or so.

So I'm not sure what's going on here.

Just read the 141 Private AR section.

Here's just one example

https://www.escortsandbabes.com.au/Profile/NSW/Wentworth-Point/Independent/Jennybany/

This girl worked at a popular inner city shop before lockdown under the same name. Great value for $250.

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Ah yes I believe I met this girl - previously 5star ?

[local]

I've been paying between $250 - $300 for privates lately, which has basically stayed the same for the last 5 to 6 years or so.


Interesting...

During lockdown, whilst the $200 girls where advertising $300 BUT CHARGING $400
It now seems they are advertising $250 and trying to charge $300
A few have gone back to $200 advertising, but no idea what they are actually asking.

The initial it seems is already over and by the end of the month it should be back to pre covid pricing as they all try and gouge their place in the market....

[GallBall2203]

Interesting...

During lockdown, whilst the $200 girls where advertising $300 BUT CHARGING $400
It now seems they are advertising $250 and trying to charge $300
A few have gone back to $200 advertising, but no idea what they are actually asking.

The initial it seems is already over and by the end of the month it should be back to pre covid pricing as they all try and gouge their place in the market....

What was it pre-covid anyways? I don't really go for privates do I don't know.

[GoldfishMan]

Interesting...

During lockdown, whilst the $200 girls where advertising $300 BUT CHARGING $400
It now seems they are advertising $250 and trying to charge $300
A few have gone back to $200 advertising, but no idea what they are actually asking.

The initial it seems is already over and by the end of the month it should be back to pre covid pricing as they all try and gouge their place in the market....

Wait, I don't understand. How does the scenario unfold? They advertise $300, you get there, then what... They say you pay her $400 or you leave? Or do they ask for $400 after the sesh?

[Riff888]

Wait, I don't understand. How does the scenario unfold? They advertise $300, you get there, then what... They say you pay her $400 or you leave? Or do they ask for $400 after the sesh?That's what I don't understand.

As I said previously, I've been saying the advertised price of between $250 to $300 for years.

Rarely do I see anything for $200 and those are usually dodgy fake ads.

You only pay more for extras and they should be all listed with the price per extra.

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[CountryPunter]

Thai WL that I’ve seen quite a number of times hasn’t changed her price in all the time I’ve known her. First met her several years before we had even heard of COVID-19.

She hasn’t advertised since the first lockdowns in 2020. Got enough regulars who support her that she hasn’t needed to advertise for new clients. She’s not young so not everyone’s cup of tea but she provides good service and isn’t a clock watcher.

[smn5746]

Any escort charging more than $200 for half an hour is deluded and is missing out on rivers of revenue.
On the other hand, she would probably get less wear and tear and end up with richer clients who can become regulars.
The richer guys might not feel safe going to an 'unknown' for a bargain root.

The price of pussy in real terms has been plummeting for years.
Prostitution and punting are now socially acceptable, which has not only pumped up demand but supply as well.
Wages in other industries are stagnant and obviously WLs don't pay tax.
They can make a lot more money by doing extras and gangbangs.

WLs know that they have a decade to make their money (18-28).
At 29 they need to start discounting hard.

#pussyologist lol

So what do you think the rate should be for 30mins FS for an independent in their own apartment ?

[smn5746]

Wait, I don't understand. How does the scenario unfold? They advertise $300, you get there, then what... They say you pay her $400 or you leave? Or do they ask for $400 after the sesh?

Yup agree how does that work? You're the idiot for paying $400.

Since lock-down I've dipped my toe into the world of independent providers and so far have only what been quoted

[smn5746]

Thai WL that I’ve seen quite a number of times hasn’t changed her price in all the time I’ve known her. First met her several years before we had even heard of COVID-19.

She hasn’t advertised since the first lockdowns in 2020. Got enough regulars who support her that she hasn’t needed to advertise for new clients. She’s not young so not everyone’s cup of tea but she provides good service and isn’t a clock watcher.

That the relationship you want

[local]

Wait, I don't understand. How does the scenario unfold? They advertise $300, you get there, then what... They say you pay her $400 or you leave? Or do they ask for $400 after the sesh?

It seems that when they ring up to book, the advertising is wrong, "special times" and they want to charge more.
Persoanlly I don't understand why they bother ...
I have had several mates bitch about this, I have also said, they ain't going to be worth it...

[dotcumdotinyou]

I found from a couple of trials the advertised price is for the basic service, so she'll advertise as $300 per hour but when you text her with what you'd expect for that $300 (dfk, bbbj, daty, cim) the price jumps to $500, so she's adding $50 per her "extras". That's how the advertised price goes up.

That's why Gladeville private and seggs were so good. The advertised price had the so called "extras" included.

[vitrium]

Same. The private girls are really hustling on the extras. That's where they make a lot of extra $$$. I don't like that model though.

Want a BBBJ - extra $100 thanks
Kissing? - extra $50 thanks
DATY? - extra $70 thanks
Extra shot? - $70 thanks
Massage? - extra $50 thanks
69? - extra $100 thanks

What a stitch up. They don't all do that. But it's much more common these days. Especially with COVID.

I think the extortionate extras prices are a bit of a 'fuck you tax'. The girls don't really want to do a lot of that stuff. But they'll do it if you pay them enough money.

Just go to a decent shop. Pay $150 and you'll probably get most of it included in the base rate.

[local]

Just go to a decent shop. Pay $150 and you'll probably get most of it included in the base rate.

Which is what the privates will learn...

The private RNT is different to the private WL and it does set them apart.
You will know where any extras stop :)

[Riff888]

I think you guys are looking at the wrong privates.

Do you have any example links?

Every private I have seen (not just the N5 privates), have everything included for $250 - $300.

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[smn5746]

I think you guys are looking at the wrong privates.

Do you have any example links?

Every private I have seen (not just the N5 privates), have everything included for $250 - $300.

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Agree I have $200 as my price point, sometimes I get 30 mins sometimes 45 mins
Anyone know 30mins is 150 45 mins is 200 and 60 mins is 300. Is it the girls would rather you no longer than 45 mins

[smn5746]

Which is what the privates will learn...

The private RNT is different to the private WL and it does set them apart.
You will know where any extras stop :)

Private RNT are rare and expensive. might as well got FS

[Johnisfun1969]

I think you guys are looking at the wrong privates.

Do you have any example links?

Every private I have seen (not just the N5 privates), have everything included for $250 - $300.

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Mate all you have to do is look at online escort sites. Escorts and babes, Escortify or Scarlet Blue. Hardly any of these adds is for $300. The ones that advertise between $200-$350 are for Asian girls and use bait and switch. When you arrive at the apartment they have milfs mostly Chinese with saggy boobs.

[dotcumdotinyou]

My 2 were both Yuri's one at Lidcombe and the other at WWP...staying within my 5km radius.

Never went as as Gladesville were better price wise and certainty of getting the advertised girl.

[Johnisfun1969]

I think you guys are looking at the wrong privates.

Do you have any example links?

Every private I have seen (not just the N5 privates), have everything included for $250 - $300.

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Check this one out. She is charging $700 per hour for GFE and $800 for sexy GFE.

https://scarletblue.com.au/escorts/new-south-wales/sydney

[Riff888]

Check this one out. She is charging $700 per hour for GFE and $800 for sexy GFE.

https://scarletblue.com.au/escorts/new-south-wales/sydneyYeah that's pretty much standard price for Western girls and ABA girls.

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[lee4winger]

I remem4ber the days where $600-$700 could get you a solid 8-9/10 escort. Nowdays most escorts are charging $600 minimum and the A Grade ones are charging $900-$1000

[Johnisfun1969]

I remem4ber the days where $600-$700 could get you a solid 8-9/10 escort. Nowdays most escorts are charging $600 minimum and the A Grade ones are charging $900-$1000

Haha you are showing your age. Now you will have to head overseas to be able to do that. Back in 2019 I was in Vietnam and found this girl online working as accountant in a firm. She wanted US$100 for 2-3 hours and $200 for 6-7. She must be in early 20’s. She came and we had long dinner in rooftop restaurant. Then back to the hotel room. She wanted to leave early as she had office the next day. I did not mind as her job was done and I could catch on some sleep myself. This Covid thing has taken away all the fun I was supposed to have on 2020. Had couple of other regular girls lined up also. It’s hard to keep in touch if you can’t go back. Compared to what you can find overseas punting in Australia is expensive hobby.

[GoldfishMan]

Haha you are showing your age. Now you will have to head overseas to be able to do that. Back in 2019 I was in Vietnam and found this girl online working as accountant in a firm. She wanted US$100 for 2-3 hours and $200 for 6-7. She must be in early 20’s. She came and we had long dinner in rooftop restaurant. Then back to the hotel room. She wanted to leave early as she had office the next day. I did not mind as her job was done and I could catch on some sleep myself. This Covid thing has taken away all the fun I was supposed to have on 2020. Had couple of other regular girls lined up also. It’s hard to keep in touch if you can’t go back. Compared to what you can find overseas punting in Australia is expensive hobby.

Wow, sounds like a lot of fun you had there mate. Envy!!

[blitz]

I think you guys are looking at the wrong privates.

Do you have any example links?

Every private I have seen (not just the N5 privates), have everything included for $250 - $300.

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Agreed. I've been seeing a private in the city regularly during lockdown. $250/hr gets you dfk, bbbj, DD and cim.
And she's absolutely gorgeous. Just do your research and it'll pay off.

[Johnisfun1969]

Wow, sounds like a lot of fun you had there mate. Envy!!

Yes, I have enjoyed my trips to both Vietnam and Philippines with Vietnam being my favourite. There was only one girl I paid for sex. The others were more like gfe but I bought gifts, chocolates and nice dinners. The dating sites are great if you are half decent looking, dress well and treat the girls with respect. I am an introvert and usually don’t have much luck with girls. But with my first trip to Vietnam specially HCMC, I met 5 girls and had sex with 3. Only one girl the chemistry was not there so did not keep in touch. The fifth one was a beautiful girl in early 20’s. I took it easy with her and it paid off on the next trip. We have been meeting and having good time since. I occasionally send her gifts and flowers. I find the girls are more decent in Vietnam than Philippines. I have not done any punting in Thailand but I will recommend people to give Vietnam a try. Only problem in Vietnam is hotels in HCMC don’t allow guests in the room. One hotel desk even called 3 times asking the guest to leave which was annoying. The other one came to the room to make sure the guest leaves. So you have to be careful in choosing the hotel.

[cheekypineapple50]

Yes, I have enjoyed my trips to both Vietnam and Philippines with Vietnam being my favourite. There was only one girl I paid for sex. The others were more like gfe but I bought gifts, chocolates and nice dinners. The dating sites are great if you are half decent looking, dress well and treat the girls with respect. I am an introvert and usually don’t have much luck with girls. But with my first trip to Vietnam specially HCMC, I met 5 girls and had sex with 3. Only one girl the chemistry was not there so did not keep in touch. The fifth one was a beautiful girl in early 20’s. I took it easy with her and it paid off on the next trip. We have been meeting and having good time since. I occasionally send her gifts and flowers. I find the girls are more decent in Vietnam than Philippines. I have not done any punting in Thailand but I will recommend people to give Vietnam a try. Only problem in Vietnam is hotels in HCMC don’t allow guests in the room. One hotel desk even called 3 times asking the guest to leave which was annoying. The other one came to the room to make sure the guest leaves. So you have to be careful in choosing the hotel.

Legend, got to give this a try.

[dotcumdotinyou]

Now that you've hit 50 posts cheeky50 (and been bitterly disappointed by the private section) you'll stop adding all the one liners to all the threads.