is punting considered cheating?

[ABG4LYF]

Hey lads! I know I might get some mixed opinions but I’m curious to know everyones take on this, would you consider punting cheating towards your partner/wife? Why yes/no?

[Rodman]

Ask your wife ?

[ABG4LYF]

Ask your wife ?

I know yea this question might trigger the troll out of you.. lol I was actually genuine as I had an ex who was totally OK with with it as long no communication should happen outside the brothel house. Her take was ML/WLs are just as any other workers trying to make a living. I wonder if other have different experience that’s all.

[Aphantom]

I know yea this question might trigger the troll out of you.. lol I was actually genuine as I had an ex who was totally OK with with it as long no communication should happen outside the brothel house. Her take was ML/WLs are just as any other workers trying to make a living. I wonder if other have different experience that’s all.

I think most wives and GFs would say yes, although their attitudes vary Eg HJ is OK but nothing else. What if the tables were reversed, would you be happy to be cuckholded, most guys probably wouldn’t.

[OLD SNAKE]

Of course its cheating, because you are not being loyal to your partner,
most men cheat, because their sexual needs are not meet, there could be a number of issues that makes it impossible to have sex consistently,
but they do love their wife, so that's why they go to a brothel do their business, than come home and be the perfect husband,
So Punting does save marriages as long as the wife doesn't find out,

[ABG4LYF]

I think most wives and GFs would say yes, although their attitudes vary Eg HJ is OK but nothing else. What if the tables were reversed, would you be happy to be cuckholded, most guys probably wouldn’t.

Yeah you are not wrong brother.

[Climax598]

Would it be cheating if wife go to a massage parlour and have extra like ml hand playing her pussy to orgasm.

[warwick1]

Would it be cheating if wife go to a massage parlour and have extra like ml hand playing her pussy to orgasm.

Maybe if it was a male doing it:grimace:

[daty2022]

Of course its cheating, because you are not being loyal to your partner,
Catching an STI and passing to your partner is a bit of a give away if anyone has a doubt.
The oldest profession is such for good reasons, but religions have been trying to put rules on what men have been needing to do for millennia. Monogamy avoided the risk of infecting the tribe. Thank you Mr Flemming and the advancement in medicine. 😬

[DrBean]

Ask your wife ?

I was thinking the same thing.

Don’t think it’s a troll answer. It comes down to what you have agreed are the boundaries in your relationship.

[GoldfishMan]

Hey lads! I know I might get some mixed opinions but I’m curious to know everyones take on this, would you consider punting cheating towards your partner/wife? Why yes/no?
My answer is I don’t know, because I’m not the one who can define that, it’s my partner.
I think the more important question is do you feel guilty about it. For that, I can emphatically answer No. I love punting.

[wilisno]

If you don’t feel guilty, then it’s no, if you feel guilty, then don’t ask this question.

If your ex was totally ok with it, then she knew she would be your ex anyway, she didn’t love you enough to care. I might add the only exception is for old couples where the woman is over the hill, no interest anymore, so she settles for the little compromise.

Of course it’s cheating !

[The Sampler]

It's honestly each to their own on what is and what isn't. Best discuss with your partner and social circles, the consensus would a yes,.but you never know.

[Aphantom]

There are few rules to follow. Confucious recommends :

If you in another state or country its not cheating.

If you are in your state, you have to book two WL's at once, they cancel each other out that way.
Your philosophy is spot on. Maybe extend to ‘in another suburb’.
Two WLs definitely cancel each other out because two ‘wongs’ make a right lol

[itoko]

Its cheating, but I have seen some girls from asian countries that don't mind there husband going out and paying for it as long as it's discreet and its not a relationship. Don't know if it they don't mind or just don't care.

[Rogeryou]

It’s only cheating if you get caught

[poida]

100% yep, cheating. Twist it whatever way you like, all the husbands and bf on here are plain jerks :)

[verbatim2]

In my assessment, there is a distinction between cheating with someone you know, and a WL. That said, I imagine it would be lost on your partner. The distinction is emotional attachment.

I suspect that using a WL whilst staying in a relationship is common, with the root cause being a mismatch in libido. Cheating with someone you know will involve emotional attachment, which I'd suggest indicates the relationship is dead.

Using a WL while in a relationship is sad; but at the end of the day, purely functional. A full-on affair is much more. I expect that is the mindset of people who do not regard using WLs to be cheating. And that point of view is not without merit.

[verbatim2]

100% yep, cheating. Twist it whatever way you like, all the husbands and bf on here are plain jerks :)

The contribution of a naive moron, for who the world is a simple place.

[suka02]

Hey lads! I know I might get some mixed opinions but I’m curious to know everyones take on this, would you consider punting cheating towards your partner/wife? Why yes/no?

This is such a STUPID question. Vice versa would you let your wife go to brothel or RNT massage? how does that make you feel? you also wanted the same way? well, your marriage aren’t working out. Answer is obviously cheating! feels good for me to say because i’m still single haha

[poida]

The contribution of a naive moron, for who the world is a simple place.

Strike a nerve? I guess ya not single with no hassles :p

Chill out dude :p

[woodland]

cheating or not cheating...who cares? Life is not so black and white.

[CharlieM]

I'm sure this subject has been brought up a few times in the past. Speaking as a married person, I consider it cheating only if you keep it a secret from your partner, as I do. Do I feel guilty! A little I do. But for me punting is completely a sexual thing. Go in, do my business and want to get out as quick as possible. I virtually hate that moment after coming when an ML/WL feels they need to make up the time left with conversation. I don't need to pay a person to talk to me. 30 mins sessions with WLs is all im doing from now on. As I don't wank any more, I consider punting the same as masturbating. Is it considered cheating if you masturbate to porn without your partner knowing?

[Tiankou]

Cheating means not honest. If you go brothel and tell your partner "i will go brothel have a relax", that is not cheating. To tell any other excuse, then it is cheating.

[GoldfishMan]

Cheating means not honest. If you go brothel and tell your partner "i will go brothel have a relax", that is not cheating. To tell any other excuse, then it is cheating.
My situation is similar to that. I hooked up with my current partner at a time in my life when I was being completely reckless about my love life. All I wanted to do was fuck as many young girls I could get. I divorced my ex-wife and one of the things I did was I told her all about my punting activities in an effort to make her see what a monster I was (didn't work, she wanted to continue). After that marriage ended, every GF I had I just let them know I punt because I didn't want to get hitched. It was a stretch of a few years when I went absolutely bonkers.

Then I partnered up with my current partner. She's had the same treatment as all the others, she knew I punt from almost the beginning of our relationship, but even so, would I just let it all hang out like I did back then?
I'm older and much more lazy now. I wouldn't do what I did back then unless I wanted my relationships to be just for fun and to end quickly. Then what? SBs? Nah... Too much work, and it's probably not going to be better sex than with my partner.

[HKHoney888]

In my assessment, there is a distinction between cheating with someone you know, and a WL. That said, I imagine it would be lost on your partner. The distinction is emotional attachment.

I suspect that using a WL whilst staying in a relationship is common, with the root cause being a mismatch in libido. Cheating with someone you know will involve emotional attachment, which I'd suggest indicates the relationship is dead.

Using a WL while in a relationship is sad; but at the end of the day, purely functional. A full-on affair is much more. I expect that is the mindset of people who do not regard using WLs to be cheating. And that point of view is not without merit.


Nicely put V2 but i would suggest "using a WL while in a relationship" is not necessarily" sad" but often necessary for the mental health of the punter......

[HKHoney888]

I'm sure this subject has been brought up a few times in the past. Speaking as a married person, I consider it cheating only if you keep it a secret from your partner, as I do. Do I feel guilty! A little I do. But for me punting is completely a sexual thing. Go in, do my business and want to get out as quick as possible. I virtually hate that moment after coming when an ML/WL feels they need to make up the time left with conversation. I don't need to pay a person to talk to me. 30 mins sessions with WLs is all im doing from now on. As I don't wank any more, I consider punting the same as masturbating. Is it considered cheating if you masturbate to porn without your partner knowing?

As woodland said .. life is not black & white ... the question is does your partner prefer your keep your punting secret from her ?? often the answer is yes.

[AHLUNGOR]

Its cheating, but I have seen some girls from asian countries that don't mind there husband going out and paying for it as long as it's discreet and its not a relationship. Don't know if it they don't mind or just don't care.

Many Asian wives are realistic and understand men have needs! Especially if the husband is half wealthy and can provide her and the family a comfortable life. They won’t tolerate an affairs with the secretary or having a mistress but casual sex on the side or a massage with HE is something they might considering acceptable at least their man is getting a release , stop them from having an affairs or breaking up the marriage .

So many Chinese and Hong Kong soaps opera movie and TV series have got that covered.

[paladin007]

I guess we have to define what cheating is. For me itÂ’s theres 2 parts, emotional (texting, on going chat) and physical (sex, bbbj, Hj).

Emotion is a bit worse in my opinion. ThatÂ’s the type of people that divorces their wife out of the blue. The physical is just as bad for some women, although some may be concerned about more people knowing, rather than the sex aspect.

At the end of the day you have to live to your decisions. If you are cheating and donÂ’t feel like thatÂ’s a problem, be sure to treat your partner better then that hooker.

[comexxx]

I think it's cheating, but just make sure you go home and be that good husband :cool2:

[Aloscha]

Many Asian wives are realistic and understand men have needs! Especially if the husband is half wealthy and can provide her and the family a comfortable life. They won’t tolerate an affairs with the secretary or having a mistress but casual sex on the side or a massage with HE is something they might considering acceptable at least their man is getting a release , stop them from having an affairs or breaking up the marriage .

So many Chinese and Hong Kong soaps opera movie and TV series have got that covered.

Agree with Ahlungor 100%. As the OP noted, his ex was ok as long as it was just sex. Emotional cheating vs the physical. It's safe to say that even in open relationships, when emotions get in the way, there's no coming back.

But diff people, diff thresholds. I don't think it's true that all Chinese wives are accepting of punting but then not all Caucasian wives wont accept their husband getting a ML handjob once in a while.

Most importantly is how we all feel about our partners - if we always come back to them no matter how great the punt was then awesome. If we using punting to replace the black hole of a relationship at home (no pun intended) then maybe have a think about whether it's time to call time on it.

[limbi8888]

when i was younger i would have said yes straight away, as i get older and being divorced now, my answer is its not so clear anymore.
We punt because we have needs and life sometimes isn't what it should be.
You need to make the decision what you want to do and whether it affects your situation.

[JohnJones]

Hey lads! I know I might get some mixed opinions but I’m curious to know everyones take on this, would you consider punting cheating towards your partner/wife? Why yes/no?

My partner, like myself, has had many sexual partners before we met each other. She never considers those she had sex with previously a great partner like myself because I push all the right emotional buttons in her. Also she doesn't seem to question if I am dipping my dick in other girl's pussies when we're not together, and I don't question her physical loyalty either.

Not sure what will happen when we tie the knot later on. I feel the closer we eventually get she might get super jealous if she knows that I'm rooting behind her back. I guess I have to pick a second "wife" that she'll approve for whenever she's unavailable for bedroom fun. Would be better if the second wife would be able to join us for a threesome.

I'm not Muslim but one side of my family had practiced polygamy up until 100 years ago when it is finally made illegal worldwide (except for Muslim countries). My partner makes jokes that if my ancestors were able to have more than one wife then she should also be able to have more than one boyfriend - myself, and her vibrator collection LOL

[StiFFFy]

Catching an STI and passing to your partner is a bit of a give away if anyone has a doubt.
The oldest profession is such for good reasons, but religions have been trying to put rules on what men have been needing to do for millennia. Monogamy avoided the risk of infecting the tribe. Thank you Mr Flemming and the advancement in medicine. [emoji51]Kind of hard to pass on the STI when you never have sex to begin with [emoji57]

[fnmfnmfnm]

Of course it’s cheating. The question is, whether the relationship circumstance justifies it, everyone’s situation is different.

[JohnJones]

Of course it’s cheating. The question is, whether the relationship circumstance justifies it, everyone’s situation is different.

Who invented the concept of "cheating"? Religion? Because way back there existed communities who would share their bodies sexually to sexually matured members of the community as long as it is consented and done in a safe manner, and it doesn't matter if they're already married or not. Call them the swinger community. Even in ancient Rome there was a point in time where sex was easily accessible that no one wants to get married, and the Roman government had to ban adultery so that people would get married and grow the already dwindling population of Rome.

[fnmfnmfnm]

Cool, but we aren’t in Ancient Rome so for the purposes of this threads context, I would say it constitutes as modern day cheating.

[Sibon]

Hey lads! I know I might get some mixed opinions but I’m curious to know everyones take on this, would you consider punting cheating towards your partner/wife? Why yes/no?

Cheating is a sin. In ancient time you'll be hang by your balls and stoned to death.

Never do it or repent and confess to a priest and redeem your sin.

Amen.

[JohnJones]

I'm older and much more lazy now. I wouldn't do what I did back then unless I wanted my relationships to be just for fun and to end quickly. Then what? SBs? Nah... Too much work, and it's probably not going to be better sex than with my partner.

I'm beginning to feel like this lol. I've had friends inviting me to go clubbing at The Argyle just so that they can learn from me how to pick up chicks. These days I'm too lazy to try and impress a girl although I do want to get naked with them and shoot ropes of cum, but my current partner does it way better than any girl or WL I've ever met that I don't feel the need to find more short term partners. Unless it's to find me a second wife...

[JohnJones]

Cool, but we aren’t in Ancient Rome so for the purposes of this threads context, I would say it constitutes as modern day cheating.

Modern day cheating is too complicated. Even just talking to another girl without having sex can be considered cheating if done intimately. If that's the case then I've actually cheated more than I thought because I've had intimate conversations with colleagues and third party clients more than the amount of girls or WLs I've had sex with.

What is intimate conversations? Sometimes it involves a bit of sex talk, sometimes we share some feelings, talk about things only shared between husbands and wives, the only thing we didn't do is say "Do you want to start a relationship with me and have sex later?"

[woodland]

I dream of the day where having sex with somebody is as casual as grabbing a cup of coffee with them
where marriages are redundant and kids are born out of incubators.

[FB24]

Hey lads! I know I might get some mixed opinions but I’m curious to know everyones take on this, would you consider punting cheating towards your partner/wife? Why yes/no?

In my opinion, yes its cheating

[Mickeydrippen]

I have noticed a lot of members seem preoccupied by rear door parlour entries. This is in a city of 5 and a half million. Wonder if they know what there wife would think.

[apokalypse]

speaking of cheating had a session with this ML who is married offer a fuck for $100 but i'm thinking about it..got her phone number and ask her out and in hotel. She said can't do at home because of husband.

[apokalypse]

I'm beginning to feel like this lol. I've had friends inviting me to go clubbing at The Argyle just so that they can learn from me how to pick up chicks.

it's about confidence really...as introvert simply can't do it. i always got a hug from my date but mind went blank didn't move on...i could pick up alot of chicks not being introvert.

[Aphantom]

Modern day cheating is too complicated. Even just talking to another girl without having sex can be considered cheating if done intimately. If that's the case then I've actually cheated more than I thought because I've had intimate conversations with colleagues and third party clients more than the amount of girls or WLs I've had sex with.

What is intimate conversations? Sometimes it involves a bit of sex talk, sometimes we share some feelings, talk about things only shared between husbands and wives, the only thing we didn't do is say "Do you want to start a relationship with me and have sex later?"
Totally agree with this. I have a female friend overseas with whom I’ve never slept. However we both admitted later that we had a crush on each other when we first met.
That led to frantic texting for about a year. So we know everything about each other’s sex life, preference, errogenous zones etc. More than our spouses know in fact. She even asked me to go over so that we could consummate it, but I didn’t take up her offer.

[Labia Vortex]

I don't see it as cheating....a lot of woman do though....not a need know behaviour

[ynot_tony]

Totally agree with this. I have a female friend overseas with whom I’ve never slept. However we both admitted later that we had a crush on each other when we first met.
That led to frantic texting for about a year. So we know everything about each other’s sex life, preference, errogenous zones etc. More than our spouses know in fact. She even asked me to go over so that we could consummate it, but I didn’t take up her offer.

Cheating can be either emotionally or physically or both

[mikael66]

no matter how you flip it, it is cheating if you have a wife. if you have gf, it is not cheating but exploring.

[priapus1966]

Only if you get caught.

Rogeryou repeated the same point and I agree, but would take it a little further: If punters are gunna punt, they at least owe it to their SO's to be discreet. You don't want to upset her, and she doesn't want to be upset, so you owe it to her not to get caught. Get your ducks in a row so that when you are asked 'what were you doing in such and such a place at a particular time?' Have your answer ready.

[rooter]

Yeah, of course its cheating.
If you accept that moral paradigm then its cheating, Absolutely its cheating.
But you don't have to accept that moral paradigm.

[hunglow]

yep, cheating!
so is jerking off to porn without your partner.
so is thinking about someone else while fucking the mrs.
so is thinking about fucking someone else without touching your junk.
so is........
its all cheating man!
;)

[Blackbird68]

Hey lads! I know I might get some mixed opinions but I’m curious to know everyones take on this, would you consider punting cheating towards your partner/wife? Why yes/no?


Depends if youve discussed boundaries with your partner.

They way I see it for myself is that there is absolutely no emotional attachment to WLs. I try not to see the same WL more than twice, even if the service was the best. It's simply a service hahahaha

Is that cheating?? i mean if you want to get into the details sure .... but if not, youre simply exchanging money for a service.

Theres no emotional attachment and theres no feelings (for me at least)

[cplurt2]

So here's is the deal. The definition of cheating is this:. to practice fraud or deceit:. So if your partner would want to know you're doing this so they can break up with you then yes it is cheating. If your partner says "I don't have the energy to have sex with you all the time you can have a girlfriend and you decide girlfriends are too expensive so you punt instead that's simple economics. If your partner full on says wear a condom and don't bring anything home anytime you bareback whatever you're cheating.

[dannyboy]

Definitely not cheating...

[moonlighta]

Thats a tuff discussion but may be best to be sure. Each person has their own values and so would say we and others would say no.

[Ninjas1018]

I think it's an acceptable form of cheating as there is (supposedly) much less likelihood of forming that emotional bond required in a partnership.

[yuikara3]

It's cheating if its not something accepted by the couple with communication I guess. And if the line is crossed to what's accepted than it would be defined as cheating on your partner.

[asiafever]

It's cheating if its not something accepted by the couple with communication I guess. And if the line is crossed to what's accepted than it would be defined as cheating on your partner.

Summed it up pretty much. If you have not discussed it and your partner would be pissed if they found out, or if your partner did it and you'd be pissed, yes it's cheating. Justify it to yourself however you like but that's what it boils down to.

[cplurt2]

Coming to a forum where we talking about banging babes lixking the slit and having threeaomes surely isn't the best place to calibrate your moral compass. Most of us motherfuckers lost em or gave em to our kids

[GoldfishMan]

I think it's an acceptable form of cheating as there is (supposedly) much less likelihood of forming that emotional bond required in a partnership.

It's not likely for you to form emotional bonds with the WL only if you're a seasoned punter, done it many times, and you've become accustomed to the transactional nature of paid sex.

That cannot be said for a big proportion of punters. Take a look at all the threads on this forum asking about realtionships with WLs/MLs. Lots of guys might not have much experience with dating or close contact with women, ended up going into a long term relationship or even got married to their "first love", only to then start punting. If they get to meet a real GFE type girl early on, that's when shit can get serious real quick.

[Jamez11]

How is having sex with another woman behind your partner's back not cheating? I reckon most partners would see cheating with a prostitute just as bad, if not worse than a fling from tinder or the like, in fact, many would see it even worse based purely on her (the partner) perceived lack of values/moral of women who sell sex for money and men who pay for it (their husband & father of the children).

No judgment here... But just call it what it is, you're having sex with a prostitute behind your partner's back.

[Sydboy65]

Of course it’s cheating. But be discreet and keep it to yourself. Don’t hurt your family.

[Jamez11]

Of course it’s cheating. But be discreet and keep it to yourself. Don’t hurt your family.

Exactly, it is what it is.

[Double_Adapter]

Relationships, marriages, jobs, projects etc are underpinned by legal and psychological contracts.
Legal contracts stipulate in written form the basis and conditions of the relationship. Psychological contracts on the other hand is the unwritten rules of the agreement, the informal commitments, the expectations, the assumptions, and the understanding that forms the partnership and/or relationship.

Imagine asking your employer permission to leave work for several hours a day to perform paid work for another company. I’m sure that would go down well with them.

Cheating is simply a lack of respect, integrity, and values.
However, if consent is given then technically it’s not cheating.

[Rookiestones]

Physically, it's a yes. Emotionally, it's a yes. Overall in majority of cases, the answer boils down to a yes.

[Packet10]

Well..... YMMV?😂

[dannyGG]

If you have a partner, can’t find any excuses for ‘No’, unless she/he clearly knew it.

[Zcash123]

Depends on your "contract" with your partner.. i would say if you have never discuss this before... then its best to assume that you are cheating.

[punter00]

Cheating is defined differently by everyone, but if you don't want your partner to find out about it then there's your answer.

[Password]

Rogeryou repeated the same point and I agree, but would take it a little further: If punters are gunna punt, they at least owe it to their SO's to be discreet. You don't want to upset her, and she doesn't want to be upset, so you owe it to her not to get caught. Get your ducks in a row so that when you are asked 'what were you doing in such and such a place at a particular time?' Have your answer ready.

"I was at the gym"

[Sibon]

It's not only cheating. It's a crime.

Go to the church and confess and repent your sin.

Punish yourself by working for free cleaning public toilets.

Washing the filth could also cleanse and detox your soul.

[BLEPSICHUNGUS]

I equate punting to be at the same level as seeing a doctor or a physio for a medical problem. You go in, pay for a service, get "treated", and then leave.

I often its more moral and ethical if you treat punting as an errand. When you get horny its wrong if you start flirting with other women, have a mistress, find different girls behind your wife etc. You are establishing emotional connections with other people and when you do get caught the whole situation hurts everyone.

I know lots of my friends who punt once a month, get their balls drained, go back to their family, hang out with their kids, love their wives etc

[Double_Adapter]

Grief is the price we pay for love and STIs is the price we pay for b/b sex.

[dannyboy]

Punting is not cheating, it's relaxation therapy..

[asam46]

Punting is being unfaithful. Supposedly physical infidelity (doing it for the sex) is easier for marriages to recover from than emotional infidelity (doing it because you love them). As long as you’re not in love with your regular ML/WL(s) then it’s a less serious form of cheating.

[thelastdance]

Ask your wife or girlfriend. The only opinion that matters in this question.

[legitl]

Got an STI from rubber sex mate

Can you elaborate?

[cuteguy]

I equate punting to be at the same level as seeing a doctor or a physio for a medical problem. You go in, pay for a service, get "treated", and then leave.

I often its more moral and ethical if you treat punting as an errand. When you get horny its wrong if you start flirting with other women, have a mistress, find different girls behind your wife etc. You are establishing emotional connections with other people and when you do get caught the whole situation hurts everyone.

I know lots of my friends who punt once a month, get their balls drained, go back to their family, hang out with their kids, love their wives etc

Many sexless marriages out there. The husband wants to play but the wife is not interested or embarrassed to show her body off. Sometimes the man loses interest and wants to try something new or young.

To answer the main question in this thread, yes it is cheating if you are in a relationship and the other person is unaware of your punting or you're unfaithful to your loved one. If you both agree to an open relationship then it's a different situation.

[legitl]

Where does it cross from non cheating to cheating?

[lam]

Ask your wife ?
This is honestly quite true though

[doctorspock]

It's only cheating if 1. you are in an EXCLUSIVE relationship and 2. You did NOT disclose to your partner.

[OneandDone]

not cheating if you are also active with your partner. you are a sex addict and need help

[dannyboy]

Ask your wife or girlfriend. The only opinion that matters in this question.

I have a friend who's wife is totally ok with him punting, she doesn't see it as cheating at all..