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4FoW2
03-04-2022, 10:08 PM
Contemplation No 1.
Usual is 1 - 2 punts per week at $150 - 200 which has given me a monthly expenditure of somewhere between $800- 1200.This has given me mixed results of satisfaction.
Thinking maybe 4 punts where I am prepared to commit up to $300 per punt maybe a better strategy. This would only give me 1 punt per week but maybe my odds of getting what I require might improve.
My target will be ML not escorts. Thoughts from others - what's best 6 - 8 punts per month at $150/200 or 4 punts per month at $300? ( corrected from original post - thanks Yella)
4FoW2

iamking
04-04-2022, 12:24 AM
As COVID has hit the industry hard, I prefer go for quality over quantity. I have my list of go to girks, and will try a new NL or WL once a month only.
For MLs, a max $70 shop fee and $150 extra fee is what I find reasonable and provides me everything seek. If the girl is young and hot upto $200 extra fees for everything is reasonable. I don't haggle and with my regulars the extra fees can drop in price. So less than $300 all up and in most cases between $200 and$220 per punt.
Escorts have been at $300 an hour for me and overall the WLs I see have provided a better service than most MLs so I am ok with the extra cost. Brothels have been hit and miss in terms of satisfaction recently and ai stopped going about 2 months ago.
I aim for 1 good punt per week, with 1 make up punt at the end of the month in case I ran into a dud. So I aim for sbout 4 a month, max 5 if there is a dud (as ai saud I only try one new Ml/Wl a month and the other three times stick to regulars/known successes). If I do have a dud punt, I cut my losses ASAP save money and call my regulars if available, if not I stop and go to the gym to kill the testosterone. Nothing worse than wasting time looking at sites and calling girks and shops, waiting fir replies, driving around and either settling for a dud or being more frustrated.

Yellow Fever
04-04-2022, 12:27 AM
Contemplation No 1.
Usual is 1 - 2 punts per week at $150 - 200 which has given me a monthly expenditure of somewhere between $800- 1200.This has given me mixed results of satisfaction.
Thinking maybe 4 punts where I am prepared to commit up to $300 per punt maybe a better strategy. This would only give me 1 punt per week but maybe my odds of getting what I require might improve.
My target will be ML not escorts. Thoughts from others - what's best 6 - 8 punts per week at $150/200 or 4 punts per week at $300?
4FoW2

I’m guessing you mean 6-8/month, compared to 4/month at the higher rate?

It would all depend on the level of satisfaction you require? Are you talking, porn star level FS?
If it’s golden rain, up ‘ya bum, handcuffs and chains…I’d assume premium rates would then apply?

My thoughts; I’ve never paid more than $200/visit, that’s the FS, plus shop fee…..and I would never entertain the idea of paying more? From my experience, like everything, cost is performance, and relationship based? Sometimes, front loading is needed…..after time, the back ended payment is often discounted, or free?

The whole question opens a Pandora’s box? I guess, that’s why the thread is titled….Contemplation #1?

In summary, if the bidding starts at $300, I’d assume, the whole deal is money oriented?
Chances of a future discount would be zero…no matter what the level of rapport achieved?

I’d probably stick to a budget of $200/visit, and build a portfolio?
Yes, many disappointments along the way, wasted capital….but Rome wasn’t built in a day.
On the other side of the coin….does $300/visit guarantee success?

$200 increments is plenty…..no one should overcapitalise, imo?

Yellow Fever
04-04-2022, 01:06 AM
As COVID has hit the industry hard, I prefer go for quality over quantity. I have my list of go to girks, and will try a new NL or WL once a month only.
For MLs, a max $70 shop fee and $150 extra fee is what I find reasonable and provides me everything seek. If the girl is young and hot upto $200 extra fees for everything is reasonable. I don't haggle and with my regulars the extra fees can drop in price. So less than $300 all up and in most cases between $200 and$220 per punt.
Escorts have been at $300 an hour for me and overall the WLs I see have provided a better service than most MLs so I am ok with the extra cost. Brothels have been hit and miss in terms of satisfaction recently and ai stopped going about 2 months ago.
I aim for 1 good punt per week, with 1 make up punt at the end of the month in case I ran into a dud. So I aim for sbout 4 a month, max 5 if there is a dud (as ai saud I only try one new Ml/Wl a month and the other three times stick to regulars/known successes). If I do have a dud punt, I cut my losses ASAP save money and call my regulars if available, if not I stop and go to the gym to kill the testosterone. Nothing worse than wasting time looking at sites and calling girks and shops, waiting fir replies, driving around and either settling for a dud or being more frustrated.

Thats interesting?

I’m time poor, so, usually just stick to one reg.
That strategy has backfired…..story for another day.

Moving forward, I’ve made the time to look around, only a couple of shops.
Yes, due to Covid….less girls to service the same demand. Everyone is complaining, service is down…blah, blah, blah. What I’ve realised, these girls are equally disgruntled with the clientele…..not happy at all!!!
Seems plenty of diamonds have been turned into rocks?

Anyway, the end result; got a couple girls, who’ve obviously broken shop rules, taken my mobile#, and are requesting catch ups!!! My situation hasn’t improved….lol.

I guess, the moral is; treat everyone as you would like to be treated?
Courtesy, and kindness, are free. A large handful of pineapples help, tipping overs….but it appears that’s just a short term investment, believe me.

Ken Tuckyfriedchicken
04-04-2022, 11:45 AM
It really depends on what stage of your journey you are in. If you have reliable regulars then quality over quantity every day of the week.
If their level of service drops, they move on or you just get sick of them then quantity in finding the next group of regulars.

If you dont like regulars and just want better one off punts, then money is your quickest in. Some mls dont do more no matter how much you throw at them, some do.

Those who have tight/strict budgets of $100/$150 for fs have a smaller net to reel them in. Sure you will find mls who will oblige, but imho the quality is lower and you have to take a lot of no answers before you hit. Doing $200 for fs increases your net significantly. You also have your only $250 or higher mls that sometimes are worth it. Maybe not many, but i know they wont drop their price no matter what.

There are all kinds of arguments about managing your money better and getting more bang for your buck. Ive had mls bump other customers for me, come in on their day off and look forward to seeing me. cause they know i value quality and sometimes will pay for it. Im not saying they dont do it for cheaper with others, but they also have to keep their standards high. I can and do walk away at a moments notice.

harry444
04-04-2022, 11:58 AM
I think this raises the question of "when is more becoming obsessive". All to their own of course, but I limit myself to once a week or twice a month. Plus, for me, cost is a major concern.

4FoW2
04-04-2022, 01:05 PM
I think this raises the question of "when is more becoming obsessive". All to their own of course, but I limit myself to once a week or twice a month. Plus, for me, cost is a major concern.
Interesting feedback guys.
One of the things I try not to do esp OS is spoil the market. Some guys come in like weekend millionairres and splash the cash making life difficult for others. Also stated it depends where in life you are, access to finance and how often you feel the need.
Agree quality is more important than quantity but is twice a week excessive? I suppose most would go for a once a week punt as their highlight of the week.
Have had wise counsel by others and it seems that extra $$$ doesn't always equal to better performance just makes greedy ML.

Tlito
04-04-2022, 01:47 PM
Interesting feedback guys.
One of the things I try not to do esp OS is spoil the market. Some guys come in like weekend millionairres and splash the cash making life difficult for others. Also stated it depends where in life you are, access to finance and how often you feel the need.
Agree quality is more important than quantity but is twice a week excessive? I suppose most would go for a once a week punt as their highlight of the week.
Have had wise counsel by others and it seems that extra $$$ doesn't always equal to better performance just makes greedy ML.
Yes agree ..
I pay a girl 200 for DATY and bbbj which is way too much but only see her once in a blue moon…I feel guilty paying her but she is that good…
Other than her I pay 150 plus shop max for bbbj fs and or DATY …sometimes all 3 sometimes DATY and a hand job..and if it means missing out …I miss out …

Ken Tuckyfriedchicken
04-04-2022, 02:07 PM
Agree quality is more important than quantity but is twice a week excessive? I suppose most would go for a once a week punt as their highlight of the week.
Have had wise counsel by others and it seems that extra $$$ doesn't always equal to better performance just makes greedy ML.
Twice a week is excessive for some, not enough for others. Depends. I would love to go everyday, but I have addiction issues lol. Rather this than gambling or drugs.

Yes, extra $ does not equal better performance. It equals better access. An ml is likely to do the same performance at $100, $150, $250 or whatever.
They will not do certain services at certain prices in a lot of cases. If you want fs with an ml and she says a hard no at $150, but yes at $200, what then? Either sticking with your rules or getting that pussy. Discipline is hard in this situation. Some may do fs at $150 if its a 30 minute booking etc.

ococpunt
04-04-2022, 02:28 PM
Contemplation No 1.
Usual is 1 - 2 punts per week at $150 - 200 which has given me a monthly expenditure of somewhere between $800- 1200.This has given me mixed results of satisfaction.
Thinking maybe 4 punts where I am prepared to commit up to $300 per punt maybe a better strategy. This would only give me 1 punt per week but maybe my odds of getting what I require might improve.
My target will be ML not escorts. Thoughts from others - what's best 6 - 8 punts per month at $150/200 or 4 punts per month at $300? ( corrected from original post - thanks Yella)
4FoW2

I am running on similar budge of shop fee + $150 twice weekly, allows me to explore and fall back onto my regulars if I need to

the maximum I would pay is $200 tip which would be for an extremely HAB

4FoW2
04-04-2022, 04:01 PM
I am running on similar budge of shop fee + $150 twice weekly, allows me to explore and fall back onto my regulars if I need to
the maximum I would pay is $200 tip which would be for an extremely HAB
Seems like most experienced punters I have spoken with this is the norm re pricing and expenditure. Yeah you can get m fee plus $100 but the $150 I think conveys, if I could use the word a "respectful" fee for the lady.
Agree 200 is rarely entertained but have given it as an extra 50 tip to agreed upon price as reward for her keeping me in the room overtime to chat or continue.
Re FS for 150 for 30 mins leave that for the young 'uns.
4FoW2

Frank Walker
05-04-2022, 10:25 AM
Don't do economics on punting. The cold hard truth in terms of the answer is something no man wants to hear :D

Gentleman20
05-04-2022, 12:11 PM
My spend is for one liaison a week - I currently have 3-4 ladies that I rotate over a month or so. I am happy to pay $100 .... or .... $130-150 at a brothel instead but the talant pool there is pretty poor atm.