Un-healthy Relationship

[Shinraman]

Now I’m sure we can all admit to have fallen (even for the 30 minutes during a session) for a ML or WL.

It must be the ego stroking they do so well, or just how overly friendly and “caring” they are.

Sometimes you catch yourself thinking about them at work or at home, the drive home or on the train… a very unhealthy relationship (if you can call it that) as it can be very one-sided and you never know the true intent from the other side $$$.

Please share your experiences and maybe some advise for getting out of this head space, I feel like many in this community are living this right now.

[1inchguy]

Advice for getting out of this head space, see another Wl/ML and you'll find yourself forgetting the previous girl.

[Sibon]

A new WL told me her boyfriend was one of her clients. And a few of her former BFs were her clients too. Wow!

And she told me her friend who was another WL married one of her clients. And he let her continue to work in the parlour. Another Wow!

I guess if you want to have a relationship with a WL it's possible but many brothers here would tell you not advisable. :)

[Somebeardyfella]

The main reason I don't let myself have a "regular" ML

[DayMan69]

This has been covered a few times.

You are clinically insane to think there is a chance in hell of a sustainable relationship with a sex worker. Not because of them (although they are undoubtedly genuinely interested in you for you, not your $$ or visa status), but because of you. You won't get the 10 dicks she's already serviced that day out of your head. You can't make up the $$ she earns. You won't get the insecurities out of your head.

Do not get into a relationship with an ML.

They are like a physio for your dick, once your done, thank her and let her get on with the next client. Just like a physio for your back. And just like a physio for your back doesn't need a love struck client, nor does your ML.

[DayMan69]

This has been covered a few times.

You are clinically insane to think there is a chance in hell of a sustainable relationship with a sex worker. Not because of them (although they are undoubtedly genuinely interested in you for you, not your $$ or visa status), but because of you. You won't get the 10 dicks she's already serviced that day out of your head. You can't make up the $$ she earns. You won't get the insecurities out of your head.

Do not get into a relationship with an ML.

They are like a physio for your dick, once your done, thank her and let her get on with the next client. Just like a physio for your back. And just like a physio for your back doesn't need a love struck client, nor does your ML.

[Shinraman]

Hey Fellas,
I should have prefaced my OP, it was supposed to be a light-hearted convo.
Nothing to be taken so seriously 😂 Just sharing some funny experiences or stories
A lot of times threads get too real in the community. 🫶🏻

R.I.P Takeoff 🕊

[AHLUNGOR]

…………. Double posted

[AHLUNGOR]

This has been covered a few times.

You are clinically insane to think there is a chance in hell of a sustainable relationship with a sex worker. Not because of them (although they are undoubtedly genuinely interested in you for you, not your $$ or visa status), but because of you. You won't get the 10 dicks she's already serviced that day out of your head. You can't make up the $$ she earns. You won't get the insecurities out of your head.

Do not get into a relationship with an ML.

They are like a physio for your dick, once your done, thank her and let her get on with the next client. Just like a physio for your back. And just like a physio for your back doesn't need a love struck client, nor does your ML.


Prudent advises. But far from the day to day reality .

If you spend enough time with the people in the RnT industry (mamasans and MLs), you will know that the majority of them have husbands, partners or boyfriends, whom may or may not know of their profession, and many of them could well be their former clients).

So while the general opinions have usually been a resounding NO, Don’t do it. The fact is differ and many people are in it and whether they are happy or not, that’s the million dollar question?


Ps. I have talking about the RnT section of the industry here, not the FS brothels as I don’t know anyone or anything from that sector.


Cheers

[asiafever]

Whenever this topic comes up I remember the old Greek mythology story of Icarus.

Daedalus, father of Icarus and a master craftsman, fashioned two pairs of wings out of wax and feathers for himself and his son, so they coukd escape Crete. Before trying to escape the island, Daedalus warned Icarus not to fly too close to the sun, as the wax may melt, nor too close to the sea, as the salt water would dampen the feathers, but to follow his path of flight. Whether it was hubris, complacency, or just being lost in the excitement while flying, Icarus disobeyed his father and soared into the sky. He flew too close to the sun, and the heat melted the wax holding his feathers together. One by one, Icarus's feathers fell out, until he fell into the sea and drowned.

Don't fly too close to the sun, nor to the sea...

[Double_Adapter]

Whenever this topic comes up I remember the old Greek mythology story of Icarus.

Daedalus, father of Icarus and a master craftsman, fashioned two pairs of wings out of wax and feathers for himself and his son, so they coukd escape Crete. Before trying to escape the island, Daedalus warned Icarus not to fly too close to the sun, as the wax may melt, nor too close to the sea, as the salt water would dampen the feathers, but to follow his path of flight. Whether it was hubris, complacency, or just being lost in the excitement while flying, Icarus disobeyed his father and soared into the sky. He flew too close to the sun, and the heat melted the wax holding his feathers together. One by one, Icarus's feathers fell out, until he fell into the sea and drowned.

Don't fly too close to the sun, nor to the sea...

That is some fucking deep shit you're preaching Mr Asiafever....unfortunately most simps here wont fucking understand the message. So I will summarise it for them - Never ever trust anything that bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die....that includes all MLs, WLs, sugar babies, wives, mistresses, girlfriends, partners, ex-wives, FWBs et al!

[Sibon]

The main reason I don't let myself have a "regular" ML

I have a regular for more than 1 year.

She is for sex.

It's a transaction. There is no emotional attachment to it.

Regular or not. It's how you handle it.

We don't see each other outside the parlour cubicle. And never go out shopping or having a meal together. And very rarely exchange SMS or Wechat messages. We think that's a waste of time. :)

I don't need to fantasize about her. Anytime I want her body I know where she works. :)

[Sibon]

If you spend enough time with the people in the RnT industry (mamasans and MLs), you will know that the majority of them have husbands, partners or boyfriends, whom may or may not know of their profession, and many of them could well be their former clients).


And those MLs we have Part 2 or Part 3 with most likely have 2 or 3 kids too. They could be in secondary schools.

Working in a massage parlour is just a profession. Saw a ML's boyfriend drove to the shop to give her a lift home. A ML told me her BF still visits her in the parlour. Many men have lived to get used to it.

[Jamez11]

Now I’m sure we can all admit to have fallen (even for the 30 minutes during a session) for a ML or WL.

It must be the ego stroking they do so well, or just how overly friendly and “caring” they are.

Sometimes you catch yourself thinking about them at work or at home, the drive home or on the train… a very unhealthy relationship (if you can call it that) as it can be very one-sided and you never know the true intent from the other side $$$.

Please share your experiences and maybe some advise for getting out of this head space, I feel like many in this community are living this right now.

It’s in the girls best interest financially to have you wanting to come back and see her. More than likely they act/say/do the exact same things with most of the 5-10 other punters they saw that day.
The good ones make men feel special as well as getting rid of their blue balls.

[bobbybrown]

There have been many, a ml and I clicked after 1 session and we exchanged numbers she had an amazing porn star body. We went out on 1 date and all she did was gossip about her friends. I got bored quickly and didn't seek a second date or another session. A few months after, my second brain wanted a release. Suffice to say, going back to her wasn't an option.

Another time I was absolutely smitten with a ML that was quite popular, we hung out for weeks until I got too attached and ruined everything. I still feel like she was the one that got away. I would have bent alot of rules for her. Funny thing was I was kind of dating this ML and a WL at the same time and I broke it off with the WL because I wanted to get serious with the ML, so I ended up losing both, although I still am friends and still meet up with the WL to this day.

[Sibon]

It’s in the girls best interest financially to have you wanting to come back and see her. More than likely they act/say/do the exact same things with most of the 5-10 other punters they saw that day.
The good ones make men feel special as well as getting rid of their blue balls.

Don't think too much or read too many ARs.

It would be a shock to read in ARs that a ML we have kissed have sucked many a cocks and balls.

But it's their jobs and a way to earn a living. We have to learn to respect that.

One ML told me some of her clients especially white males had told her, "No kissing." :)

[ucokrajameong]

Now I’m sure we can all admit to have fallen (even for the 30 minutes during a session) for a ML or WL.

It must be the ego stroking they do so well, or just how overly friendly and “caring” they are.

Sometimes you catch yourself thinking about them at work or at home, the drive home or on the train… a very unhealthy relationship (if you can call it that) as it can be very one-sided and you never know the true intent from the other side $$$.

Please share your experiences and maybe some advise for getting out of this head space, I feel like many in this community are living this right now.

I am facing that exact problem right now. Kept thinking about these 2 WL’s (one definitely thinking about her all the time, and the other one yeah from time to time).

What got me hooked is that despite getting her stuff (nothing fancy; purse, shoes, dress, those sort of things), but every time I message her, what does she want me to get her on next session, she kept saying she doesnt want anything. Coming to see her is already enough of a gift. That sort of behaviour/speak (regardless sincere or fake) gets into my brain, argh!!!

I even use our photo for my WhatsApp profile picture [emoji1]. Very unhealthy. What do I do gents???!!!

[asiafever]

I believe it may have been dotcumdotinyou who introduced the forum to this poem. It's worth repeating , and should probably be a sticky for all of us to read from time to time, especially when someone catches feels for a ml..

The Spider and the Fly
“Will you walk into my parlour?” said the Spider to the Fly,
“‘Tis the prettiest little parlour that ever you did spy;
The way into my parlour is up a winding stair,
And I have many curious things to shew when you are there.”
“Oh no, no,” said the little Fly, “to ask me is in vain,
For who goes up your winding stair can ne’er come down again.”

“I’m sure you must be weary, dear, with soaring up so high;
Will you rest upon my little bed?” said the Spider to the Fly.
“There are pretty curtains drawn around; the sheets are fine and thin,
And if you like to rest awhile, I’ll snugly tuck you in!”
“Oh no, no,” said the little Fly, “for I’ve often heard it said,
They never, never wake again, who sleep upon your bed!”

Said the cunning Spider to the Fly, “Dear friend what can I do,
To prove the warm affection I’ve always felt for you?
I have within my pantry, good store of all that’s nice;
I’m sure you’re very welcome–will you please to take a slice?”
“Oh no, no,” said the little Fly, “kind sir, that cannot be,
I’ve heard what’s in your pantry, and I do not wish to see!”

“Sweet creature!” said the Spider, “you’re witty and you’re wise,
How handsome are your gauzy wings, how brilliant are your eyes!
I’ve a little looking-glass upon my parlour shelf,
If you’ll step in one moment, dear, you shall behold yourself.”
“I thank you, gentle sir,” she said, “for what you’re pleased to say,
And bidding you good morning now, I’ll call another day.”

The Spider turned him round about, and went into his den,
For well he knew the silly Fly would soon come back again:
So he wove a subtle web, in a little corner sly,
And set his table ready, to dine upon the Fly.
Then he came out to his door again, and merrily did sing,
“Come hither, hither, pretty Fly, with the pearl and silver wing;
Your robes are green and purple–there’s a crest upon your head;
Your eyes are like the diamond bright, but mine are dull as lead!”

Alas, alas! how very soon this silly little Fly,
Hearing his wily, flattering words, came slowly flitting by;
With buzzing wings she hung aloft, then near and nearer drew,
Thinking only of her brilliant eyes, and green and purple hue–
Thinking only of her crested head–poor foolish thing! At last,
Up jumped the cunning Spider, and fiercely held her fast.
He dragged her up his winding stair, into his dismal den,
Within his little parlour–but she ne’er came out again!

And now dear little children, who may this story read,
To idle, silly flattering words, I pray you ne’er give heed:
Unto an evil counsellor, close heart and ear and eye,
And take a lesson from this tale, of the Spider and the Fly...

[Dettol]

I have a regular for more than 1 year.

She is for sex.

It's a transaction. There is no emotional attachment to it.

Regular or not. It's how you handle it.

We don't see each other outside the parlour cubicle. And never go out shopping or having a meal together. And very rarely exchange SMS or Wechat messages. We think that's a waste of time. :)

I don't need to fantasize about her. Anytime I want her body I know where she works. :)

In other words, you’re a Customer.

[Lookha]

ML ladies are very lovely, young, friendly, sexy and available. Some years ago I had a relationship with a beautiful, young (then ) Thai ML. We had regular dinners and I did some favours for her. She is still working and I see her occasionally. Now she is looking for an Australian partner so she can stay here. She will continue to work. She has been in Australia for nearly seven years. Seven years (times) 48 weeks working per year (times) 2 or more days a week (times) five (or more) customers a day. That’s at least 3,360 paying customers. She is very attractive. In the past, she has had boyfriends but all they wanted was sex. So therefore there has been a lot of water under the bridge and a lot of ins and outs and a lot of comings and goings. Probably not serious long term relationship material. Buyer beware.

[dotcumdotinyou]

If it was me I wasn't eloquent as mr asiafever.

My advise is run for your fucken' life...delete all numbers, block all app contacts. You'll end up losing your your mind and a shitload of cash. If you get the feels for a WL/ML go and explore a different girl/venue/suburb.

[Sibon]

If it was me I wasn't eloquent as mr asiafever.

My advise is run for your fucken' life...delete all numbers, block all app contacts. You'll end up losing your your mind and a shitload of cash. If you get the feels for a WL/ML go and explore a different girl/venue/suburb.

I think that is a very eloquent warning.

[Sibon]

ML ladies are very lovely, young, friendly, sexy and available. Some years ago I had a relationship with a beautiful, young (then ) Thai ML. We had regular dinners and I did some favours for her. She is still working and I see her occasionally. Now she is looking for an Australian partner so she can stay here. She will continue to work. She has been in Australia for nearly seven years. Seven years (times) 48 weeks working per year (times) 2 or more days a week (times) five (or more) customers a day. That’s at least 3,360 paying customers. She is very attractive. In the past, she has had boyfriends but all they wanted was sex. So therefore there has been a lot of water under the bridge and a lot of ins and outs and a lot of comings and goings. Probably not serious long term relationship material. Buyer beware.

Some MLs should know that some punters want are free sex as a boyfriend and not a serious relationship.

[woodland]

and some punters will want a FIV.
just saw a youtube video on LADbible TV on an escort. she was oh so fine, and she said...
she said she has a few casual relationships but nothing serious
well worth watching.

[Puntonthego]

This has been covered a few times.

You are clinically insane to think there is a chance in hell of a sustainable relationship with a sex worker. Not because of them (although they are undoubtedly genuinely interested in you for you, not your $$ or visa status), but because of you. You won't get the 10 dicks she's already serviced that day out of your head. You can't make up the $$ she earns. You won't get the insecurities out of your head.

Do not get into a relationship with an ML.

They are like a physio for your dick, once your done, thank her and let her get on with the next client. Just like a physio for your back. And just like a physio for your back doesn't need a love struck client, nor does your ML.

couldn’t have said it better.


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[Double_Adapter]

I believe it may have been dotcumdotinyou who introduced the forum to this poem. It's worth repeating , and should probably be a sticky for all of us to read from time to time, especially when someone catches feels for a ml..

The Spider and the Fly
“Will you walk into my parlour?” said the Spider to the Fly,
“‘Tis the prettiest little parlour that ever you did spy;
The way into my parlour is up a winding stair,
And I have many curious things to shew when you are there.”
“Oh no, no,” said the little Fly, “to ask me is in vain,
For who goes up your winding stair can ne’er come down again.”

“I’m sure you must be weary, dear, with soaring up so high;
Will you rest upon my little bed?” said the Spider to the Fly.
“There are pretty curtains drawn around; the sheets are fine and thin,
And if you like to rest awhile, I’ll snugly tuck you in!”
“Oh no, no,” said the little Fly, “for I’ve often heard it said,
They never, never wake again, who sleep upon your bed!”

Said the cunning Spider to the Fly, “Dear friend what can I do,
To prove the warm affection I’ve always felt for you?
I have within my pantry, good store of all that’s nice;
I’m sure you’re very welcome–will you please to take a slice?”
“Oh no, no,” said the little Fly, “kind sir, that cannot be,
I’ve heard what’s in your pantry, and I do not wish to see!”

“Sweet creature!” said the Spider, “you’re witty and you’re wise,
How handsome are your gauzy wings, how brilliant are your eyes!
I’ve a little looking-glass upon my parlour shelf,
If you’ll step in one moment, dear, you shall behold yourself.”
“I thank you, gentle sir,” she said, “for what you’re pleased to say,
And bidding you good morning now, I’ll call another day.”

The Spider turned him round about, and went into his den,
For well he knew the silly Fly would soon come back again:
So he wove a subtle web, in a little corner sly,
And set his table ready, to dine upon the Fly.
Then he came out to his door again, and merrily did sing,
“Come hither, hither, pretty Fly, with the pearl and silver wing;
Your robes are green and purple–there’s a crest upon your head;
Your eyes are like the diamond bright, but mine are dull as lead!”

Alas, alas! how very soon this silly little Fly,
Hearing his wily, flattering words, came slowly flitting by;
With buzzing wings she hung aloft, then near and nearer drew,
Thinking only of her brilliant eyes, and green and purple hue–
Thinking only of her crested head–poor foolish thing! At last,
Up jumped the cunning Spider, and fiercely held her fast.
He dragged her up his winding stair, into his dismal den,
Within his little parlour–but she ne’er came out again!

And now dear little children, who may this story read,
To idle, silly flattering words, I pray you ne’er give heed:
Unto an evil counsellor, close heart and ear and eye,
And take a lesson from this tale, of the Spider and the Fly...


.....stop it Asiafever, you're killing me! A beautiful but poignant story without the happy ending, and I think a 'blow fly' would be a more fitting description of some of the punters that frequent the spider's den.

[hatter]

100% agree run for your life

[hatter]

sound advise to be followed

[DayMan69]

And then there is Customer relations.
Making the customer feel special so they come back.
No different to any service industry

This.

Just as we think the pretty waitress is flirting with us , so too the ML is horny just for us. Both to encourage tips and repeat visits. Face it lads, we're suckers for great tits.

[asiafever]

And then there is Customer relations.
Making the customer feel special so they come back.
No different to any service industry

https://youtu.be/r0MPwCYmFQo

Again, others posted this before me.

[Flasher]

Remind yourself most or all WL ML is in the game to earn money not a hobby or passion, you are basically just a business transaction no such thing as free lunch.
The general rule is punt paid & go end of transaction, these transaction can be repeated as many time as you like.

[FiloPunter]

I am facing that exact problem right now. Kept thinking about these 2 WL’s (one definitely thinking about her all the time, and the other one yeah from time to time).

What got me hooked is that despite getting her stuff (nothing fancy; purse, shoes, dress, those sort of things), but every time I message her, what does she want me to get her on next session, she kept saying she doesnt want anything. Coming to see her is already enough of a gift. That sort of behaviour/speak (regardless sincere or fake) gets into my brain, argh!!!

I even use our photo for my WhatsApp profile picture [emoji1]. Very unhealthy. What do I do gents???!!!

I got the same problem before.. Kept thinking about her, Kept our photo together, when ask what she wanted me to bring for her next visit she'll just say just coffee. We communicate regularly I got hooked can't stop thinking about her, even started studying their language. Lucky she went back in her country got my self back. She said she'll be back next year, will avoid her no matter what. Don't want to be crazy again

[1inchguy]

Anyone fall in love with their GP, nurses, dentist, waitress etc or is it cause ml/WL is touching their dick hence the feeling?

[OneandDone]

shes hot, cute, tits, pussy whatever all women are fuckn crazy. other than your partner which u have commitments to get out of there as fast as u can once you blow your load

[Sibon]

Anyone fall in love with their GP, nurses, dentist, waitress etc or is it cause ml/WL is touching their dick hence the feeling?

Which GP, nurse, dentist, waitress etc offers her naked body for you to touch, kiss, suck, pinch, bite and enter?

Intimacy breeds attachment. :)

[rubit moore]

I don't trust and would never trust a woman related to such industry in any way. As a matter of fact I won't trust any woman at all like our fellow punter mentioned above. I completely agree with him.

I do believe in trust and love and caring for each other but we are living in time where such characteristics aren't appreciated and more importantly more than rare to find.

Because we live in the time of sugar babies, onlyfans, female only approaching or entertaining you for fake partner visa relationship and much more as it is just a glimpse.

Completely agree.

[Double_Adapter]

The evolution of RnT:
Part1 - rub
Part2 - tug
Part3 - f/s
Part4 - catch the feels
Part5 - gf and marriage

[Shinraman]

The evolution of RnT:
Part1 - rub
Part2 - tug
Part3 - f/s
Part4 - catch the feels
Part5 - gf and marriage

🤣🤣🤣 This is hilarious… Part 5 is going to cost a lot of pineapples!!!

[hatter]

absolutely true , no special cocks out there

[Fred Flintstone]

The evolution of RnT:
Part1 - rub
Part2 - tug
Part3 - f/s
Part4 - catch the feels
Part5 - gf and marriage

Part 6 - divorce
Part 7- cleans you out of 50% of everything
Part 8- has money, has Aussie passport, go gets young bf

[rooter]

The punter mantra is Pay. Fuck. Leave.
Some people misinterpret that as meaning you have to be a hard bastard, be hostile toward WLs, be an arsehole etc.
But that is not what punting is about.
If you harden your heart and take a hostile view toward WLs you will never enjoy your punting, you will be miserable, you will bring misery to a girl who is trying to earn a living, and generally you will bring bad karma into the universe.
The key is to learn how to switch on and off.
This is an attitude/skill/approach that the best WLs have.
As a punter you have to have the same attitude.
Go into a punt with an open heart. Treat a girl like she is the only girl in the universe, because for that hour you are with her, she is. Relax. Enjoy. Chill out.
Then leave, switch off, and go out into the real world and back to your normal life.
Pay. Fuck. Leave. Switch on. Switch off. Enjoy!
Master this and you will be the Happy Punter.

[dotcumdotinyou]

Even pre-nups are not a guarantee, also when I went through my divorce I asked my solicitor would things have come out different if I had a pre-nup. His answer was the minute a child is born the pre-nup is thrown out by the courts and all efforts and outcomes are made with the child's (children's) future first and foremost.

[Climax598]

Part 6 - divorce
Part 7- cleans you out of 50% of everything
Part 8- has money, has Aussie passport, go gets young bf
You have forgotten child maintenance if have one can only see once a month.

[dotcumdotinyou]

Not really Climax, I fought for access to my children and got 2 days per week and half the school holidays. And through negotiation with my ex I now have them every weekend.

Now, if your ex takes the child back to her country of origin access is going to be hard.

Also if your ex is a vindictive bitch and tells the court you've physically or mentally abused the child then you won't see them at all. I've met a lot of divorcees in this position and have friends who have to have drug and/or alcohol tests before supervised access sessions.

[hatter]

The punter mantra is Pay. Fuck. Leave.
Some people misinterpret that as meaning you have to be a hard bastard, be hostile toward WLs, be an arsehole etc.
But that is not what punting is about.
If you harden your heart and take a hostile view toward WLs you will never enjoy your punting, you will be miserable, you will bring misery to a girl who is trying to earn a living, and generally you will bring bad karma into the universe.
The key is to learn how to switch on and off.
This is an attitude/skill/approach that the best WLs have.
As a punter you have to have the same attitude.
Go into a punt with an open heart. Treat a girl like she is the only girl in the universe, because for that hour you are with her, she is. Relax. Enjoy. Chill out.
Then leave, switch off, and go out into the real world and back to your normal life.
Pay. Fuck. Leave. Switch on. Switch off. Enjoy!
Master this and you will be the Happy Punter.
Sound advise especially given most of them have boyfriends already. Most these guys dont even know that they work in these shops

[footboy2012]

this type of thread always baffles my mind

it's all an illusion, a fucking charade that is rolled out to every john who pays to get their dick sucked by a hot bitch
end of story

[hatter]

this type of thread always baffles my mind

it's all an illusion, a fucking charade that is rolled out to every john who pays to get their dick sucked by a hot bitch
end of story

very well said , its just a job

[Double_Adapter]

Part 6 - divorce
Part 7- cleans you out of 50% of everything
Part 8- has money, has Aussie passport, go gets young bf

Part 9 - your posts begin to read and sound like fifita's

[Rhonus]

I've been flying close to the sun for a long time now hardest part for falling for an m/l is trying to block the fact that you are just one of many guys she's in a day a week a month or a year as I've been unable to do

[Vader]

Even pre-nups are not a guarantee, also when I went through my divorce I asked my solicitor would things have come out different if I had a pre-nup. His answer was the minute a child is born the pre-nup is thrown out by the courts and all efforts and outcomes are made with the child's (children's) future first and foremost.

A pre-nup is a legally binding agreement in Australia and are known as Binding Financial Agreements and are drafted at the beginning of a relationship to set out how assets will be divided if you break up in the future. The Family Law Court can set aside a BFA in limited cases such as fraud or one party has signed under duress. Both parties have to have independent legal advice and each lawyer has to sign the agreement saying they have provided this advice. I know many people including myself who have used BFA's and the Court has always upheld them. No idea what happened with you.

[GoldfishMan]

Mate, the only reason you'd think a relationship with a WL was an option is because it is convenient for you. For a few bucks, you've skipped all the insecurites of regular dating and got into her pants. Oh sure, why not let it "blossom". It can't and it won't, for every reason that you can't think of right now.

Don't even go there bro.

[GoldfishMan]

And I don't distinguish between ML or WL. They're all WLs. As long as they're in the business of getting customers to shoot their spunk, that's what they are.

[footboy2012]

100%

don't kid yourself

WL/ML wouldn't respect punters anyway, probably think we are low lives and for milking of wallet, probably running the same fantasy with multiple punters and really getting great scale in their operations that way

some white knights even give them a retainer, thinking they are saving them and exclusive

[dotcumdotinyou]

IF you get married and then have children a court has the authority to overturn a prenup (BFO) if it made no provisions for children of the relationship.

Also, if one party can prove they signed under coercion or duress the court can overturn all or part of the prenup (BFO). An example of coercion or duress would be one person in the relationship telling the other that they will not marry them if they do not sign the prenup (BFO). If someone signs the prenup (BFO) on the day of the wedding, this is also considered as under duress.

Who would believe that a manipulative ML/WL wouldn't lawyer up and immediately say that she signed under duress even though she got independent legal advice from an Australian solicitor?
We all know what great actresses they are.

[Vader]

IF you get married and then have children a court has the authority to overturn a prenup (BFO) if it made no provisions for children of the relationship.

Also, if one party can prove they signed under coercion or duress the court can overturn all or part of the prenup (BFO). An example of coercion or duress would be one person in the relationship telling the other that they will not marry them if they do not sign the prenup (BFO). If someone signs the prenup (BFO) on the day of the wedding, this is also considered as under duress.

Who would believe that a manipulative ML/WL wouldn't lawyer up and immediately say that she signed under duress even though she got independent legal advice from an Australian solicitor?
We all know what great actresses they are.

Hey scoop. Any contract, Wills etc can be overturned in a Court of Law. That is why when you have contracts, etc drawn up or appear in a Court you need the best lawyers that you can afford.

[dotcumdotinyou]

So you went from a "court will always uphold them yesterday" to "any contract can be overturned in a court of law" today...

Dick fuckin Tracy

[youngheart]

Well, I have to laugh....
I have 2 Thai girls chasing me for child support.
Now once the kids were born I actually managed to get some dna samples and sent them off just in case any claims were made.
Both came back as nothing to do with me. I really didn't expect them to, as I got tied off years ago.
I keep denying paternity but they wont listen. So now I just say prove it.

[Bunty4]

This has been covered a few times.

You are clinically insane to think there is a chance in hell of a sustainable relationship with a sex worker. Not because of them (although they are undoubtedly genuinely interested in you for you, not your $$ or visa status), but because of you. You won't get the 10 dicks she's already serviced that day out of your head. You can't make up the $$ she earns. You won't get the insecurities out of your head.

Do not get into a relationship with an ML.

They are like a physio for your dick, once your done, thank her and let her get on with the next client. Just like a physio for your back. And just like a physio for your back doesn't need a love struck client, nor does your ML.
Like the phyiso analogy… good one… they surely do a good job of massaging that lonely muscle.

[Ziggurat]

. An example of coercion or duress would be one person in the relationship telling the other that they will not marry them if they do not sign the prenup (BFO).

Eh? Isn't that clause 1 in every pre-nup?

[Vader]

So you went from a "court will always uphold them yesterday" to "any contract can be overturned in a court of law" today...

Dick fuckin Tracy

I said they upheld them for me. Plus I also said a Court can set them aside. Maybe you should go to specsavers Dick. No wonder you got screwed possibly in more ways than one.

[GoldfishMan]

That good actress part just got me as I know of a ML who did exactly the same after she got intention of partner visa cancellation and 28 days notice. For fuck sake she has a Aussie passport as we speak. I mean wow just wow. She got half of whatever that guy had. And as a matter of fact she was ML all the time she was married. I just can't get this through my head why he didn't made a point of her being ML. But I can only presume that he didn't know (not really but who can say for sure) or couldn't prove that yes she worked in a massage shop but not only as masseuse but as a ML who provide all that naughty naughty extras for some cash and that's bloody ridiculous. If you are in relationship particular if married and that's cheating and someone doing such things shouldn't be eligible for any benefit like this. Isn't?
Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on the situation, that's not how it works in Oz. There's no distinction between cheater and "cheatee" here in a divorce.

And I find it hard to believe he really lost half of everything he got. If he did, he must've not done his research and really got suckered.

[Vader]

Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on the situation, that's not how it works in Oz. There's no distinction between cheater and "cheatee" here in a divorce.

And I find it hard to believe he really lost half of everything he got. If he did, he must've not done his research and really got suckered.

Unfortunately, as soon as you get married or defacto everything is 50/50. It is then up to each side to fight or the court to vary that split. That is why it is always good to have a pre nup.

[1inchguy]

Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on the situation, that's not how it works in Oz. There's no distinction between cheater and "cheatee" here in a divorce.

And I find it hard to believe he really lost half of everything he got. If he did, he must've not done his research and really got suckered.

I would say pay the big bucks and get a really good lawyer.
Huge difference.

[dotcumdotinyou]

As goldfishman said, no fault divorce. Brought in by Lionel Murphy during the Whitlam years.

Unfortunately ghalib the word of 2 woman against 1 man regarding domestic abuse will always win in the end.