How much cut does the shop take?

[mmmmnnnn]

For the bigger shops like N5M, 42G, or Ginza, is it something like 50% or are they more generous to the WL's.. anybody got any ideas?

[wilisno]

You’ll get lots of answers from experts who knows everything. ;) ;) ;)

[johnstrike]

i think it's a trade secret, the owner not going to tell you. better ask the girl working there.

[Nojoke]

For the bigger shops like N5M, 42G, or Ginza, is it something like 50% or are they more generous to the WL's.. anybody got any ideas?

Curious to understand why you want to know? What purpose does it serve.

Ps its been covered 100s of times here... the conclusion is what wilisno said.

[mmmmnnnn]

Curious to understand why you want to know? What purpose does it serve.

Ps its been covered 100s of times here... the conclusion is what wilisno said.

yeah, fair enough.
it was another thread about J Hana, where another punter mentioned she must really hate this job to give such bad service, and even though the money is good, you can get less money elsewhere but be happier... so it got me thinking how much do they actually get to put up with something they obviously dislike?

[Rogeryou]

Curious to understand why you want to know? What purpose does it serve.

Ps its been covered 100s of times here... the conclusion is what wilisno said.

As to anything being previously discussed… some ppl are new man.

[Harp0]

Just ask the next girl you click with.

[ditchtheboss]

Just ask the next girl you click with.

That might be a little rude. It is no different than asking anyone else how much they earn.

[wachumba]

Been told that the girls at MAC get 15 of of the 50 that we pay for the half hour. It is good to know, so ppl can tip accordingly and or be more generous.
As to anything being previously discussed… some ppl are new man.

Doesnt seem right. If a girl told you that, she may have been low balling you to try to get you to pay more for extras. Girls must be pretty dumb to work there if that is the actual cut as they could get more elsewhere, particularly the cauc girls. Even $10 extra for 30min could be over $100 difference in 1 day dependant on number of customers.

Girls cut will vary from shop to shop and can even vary from girl to girl within the same shop.

[woods23]

That might be a little rude. It is no different than asking anyone else how much they earn.

No. It's very different. Asking how much she earn a day is Rude..not the cut . Most girl will tell you anyway is not big deal. 99% girl won't tell you how much$$$ they take home !

[ditchtheboss]

No. It's very different. Asking how much she earn a day is Rude..not the cut . Most girl will tell you anyway is not big deal. 99% girl won't tell you how much$$$ they take home !

Fair, one can then extrapolate how much they make depending on how popular they are.

[cuteguy]

When the price was $230 per hour for diamond service before covid, the girls were receiving $190 at one popular shop. I guess the shops are taking more now. In the RNT shops, the girl takes $25 or $30 from $65 or $70 per hour.

[nilhlator]

When the price was $230 per hour for diamond service before covid, the girls were receiving $190 at one popular shop. I guess the shops are taking more now. In the RNT shops, the girl takes $25 or $30 from $65 or $70 per hour.

i got told similar figures from a Thai ML but this was pre covid

[wilisno]

No. It's very different. Asking how much she earn a day is Rude..not the cut . Most girl will tell you anyway is not big deal. 99% girl won't tell you how much$$$ they take home !

Nowadays, asking the girl what the cut is doesn’t mean much, many girls come with a price of their own, it’s up to the shops to add the margins on it, there’s no standard cut in the industry anymore.

[cuteguy]

No. It's very different. Asking how much she earn a day is Rude..not the cut . Most girl will tell you anyway is not big deal. 99% girl won't tell you how much$$$ they take home !

Of course they won't tell you. Would you tell a girl how much you take home? Definitely not their business. You'd be surprised how much the popular MLs take home after doing extras. This is why many MLs are doing extras and some are doing very well.

[ditchtheboss]

Nowadays, asking the girl what the cut is doesn’t mean much, many girls come with a price of their own, it’s up to the shops to add the margins on it, there’s no standard cut in the industry anymore.

That is interesting. The number provided indicated they keep about 82% of the hourly rate. At $300 per hour, if a girl is fully booked working 9 hours, 4 days per week for 48 weeks, she is taking north if $400k unless my maths is wrong.

That’s not realistic though as they can’t possibly be fully booked everyday they work, although some of them probably are.

Tough job with big financial rewards. Only wish it was easier on their mental and physical health. The mental being the worst as told by one popular girl.

[wilisno]

That is interesting. The number provided indicated they keep about 82% of the hourly rate. At $300 per hour, if a girl is fully booked working 9 hours, 4 days per week for 48 weeks, she is taking north if $400k unless my maths is wrong.

That’s not realistic though as they can’t possibly be fully booked everyday they work, although some of them probably are.

Tough job with big financial rewards. Only wish it was easier on their mental and physical health. The mental being the worst as told by one popular girl.
The one thing you said is correct is that they are not fully booked at all times.

Of course, not many would come with a $280 price tag to look for a job, unless they are very confident.

[Thomas Crown]

In November 2019, one of Ginza’s biggest stars of that time told me (unprompted) that of the $250 per hour she was costing me, she got $190. Roughly 75%. Appreciate that info is more than 3 years old.

[woods23]

Nowadays, asking the girl what the cut is doesn’t mean much, many girls come with a price of their own, it’s up to the shops to add the margins on it, there’s no standard cut in the industry anymore.

Interesting to know about Wl cut nowadays. Wil is the guy to ask it seems he is here for ever :shout:
I was referring to rnt cut.

I know SBM nd 227Bw there cut is about $10 lower for the girls. Fair enough the shops has shower cost of running it is huge.

One girl at Kyoto told me about 4 yrs ago she would get $190 of $250.

[Abracadabra]

In November 2019, one of Ginza’s biggest stars of that time told me (unprompted) that of the $250 per hour she was costing me, she got $190. Roughly 75%. Appreciate that info is more than 3 years old.

Don't know how important this is but comparable to Mr TC 3 yr old data, I was told a month ago by a Ginza star that the 75% still holds .....at least for her

[wilisno]

Don't know how important this is but comparable to Mr TC 3 yr old data, I was told a month ago by a Ginza star that the 75% still holds .....at least for her

You’ve got it, at least for her, not for everybody.

The 50/50 cut is history now.

[GoldfishMan]

Wilisno is right. To take a guaranteed fee on every booking of a girl regardless of her own desired rate is the safest charge model that a shop can come up with at this time and age.

If they were stuck on the old percentage approach, the pricing of their girls could blow out tremendously. A girl could come along and demand to be paid $300 /hr. If a shop stuck to let's say a 1/3 cut of a girls charge rate, that could blow out that girl's rate to $400 /hr. That's a ridiculous price point for an Asian brothel girl. It wouldn't make any sense at all.

Think of it as a way for the shops to guarantee a certain level of profit, yet at the same time secure itself from the vagaries of greedy WLs.

[GoldfishMan]

And one thing I noticed a while ago. Some shops practice renting out their empty rooms for hourly rates. For sneaky couples trying to look for a cheap room to fuck in. 42g was one of them, not sure if there are any others. This must tell you a lot about what it's all about.

If you strip away all the bells and whistles, at its heart, the brothel business is really nothing more than a business of renting out rooms for the prostitution to take place in safely. The people paying the "rent" is the WL, paying for it using the money earnt from her client.

That's how it should be if every word of the law was adhered to, at least.

[Sibon]

How much cut does the shop take?

One thing I'm sure is the shop gets our used condoms and the sperm.

I think they make a fortune selling them to private sperm banks.

They employ the hot girls to make us go there to donate it.

We get the pleasure of the flesh and they get to make the money.

It's a Win Win for all. :)

[wilisno]

Wilisno is right. To take a guaranteed fee on every booking of a girl regardless of her own desired rate is the safest charge model that a shop can come up with at this time and age.

If they were stuck on the old percentage approach, the pricing of their girls could blow out tremendously. A girl could come along and demand to be paid $300 /hr. If a shop stuck to let's say a 1/3 cut of a girls charge rate, that could blow out that girl's rate to $400 /hr. That's a ridiculous price point for an Asian brothel girl. It wouldn't make any sense at all.

Think of it as a way for the shops to guarantee a certain level of profit, yet at the same time secure itself from the vagaries of greedy WLs.

And although some people are crying shop owners are greedy by jacking up the price to make more money, the fact is, they are making less money per booking due to competition. That’s the fact, not speculation.

And of course, the successful ones still make more because they have more bookings, that goes with whatever business, no matter how lucrative the profit margin is, they still can go broke if there’s no bookings, on the other hand, smaller margins can also create big profit if done right. Look at Chemist Warehouse !

[Rogeryou]

Doesnt seem right. If a girl told you that, she may have been low balling you to try to get you to pay more for extras. Girls must be pretty dumb to work there if that is the actual cut as they could get more elsewhere, particularly the cauc girls. Even $10 extra for 30min could be over $100 difference in 1 day dependant on number of customers.

Girls cut will vary from shop to shop and can even vary from girl to girl within the same shop.

Yes that possible

[holi_day]

A couple of WLs I used to frequent in western shops before COVID, told me that, on top of agreed cut, some girls would give additional monetary benefits or let the manager/receptionist fuck them so they would look after their business.

Small sample size so may not represent the majority.

[1inchguy]

Few regulars told me if the rate was $45-$55 . The shop gets like $15-$20.
The extras ml keep.
Obviously the more the ml see, the shop gets more.

[parr2150]

i know a touch of class do 50/50 with the girls when i went there they take the money and then give you the wallet with half the money to give her

[wilisno]

i know a touch of class do 50/50 with the girls when i went there they take the money and then give you the wallet with half the money to give her

To make it clear, I’m talking about Asian FS shops, not Caucasian shops or RnT shops.

[personaa]

At missheavens the girl takes 50 percent, it's mentioned on their website. Shop is taking room hire fee which is half of what you pay at front. At 219 Croydon the shop takes 30 dollars from 130 that you pay and 100 goes to the provider for half hour service. This is based on their website ( if it still holds true).

[Beergut]

Does it matter. A share is enough to get by