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Michaelli2000
29-04-2023, 11:46 AM
Anyone uses punting as escapism from work?

Eg: going to a punt to forget about all work related trouble

I have a friend who blows 1/3 of his net after tax pay on punting

How do you stop this addiction from getting worse

Jamit
30-04-2023, 07:15 PM
As Nietzsche said; alcohol is the opium of the masses. However he may have also agreed that punting is the opium of the male masses. He did think that sex was a great thing to partake in and perhaps contracted syphilis from it which killed him at 42. His point was alcohol makes it harder for people confront and address what makes them unhappy. Similarly, punting can be a form of delightful and expensive escapism from things that you want to avoid or make you unhappy.

Maybe your friend should spend the money and time he spends punting on looking for a better fitting or exciting job, or tackling the work issues that bother him.

Nietzsche would have frowned on regular punting as he probably thought it was better spending the money and time on addressing issues or seeking out a hot relationship, or on spicing up an existing relationship. The delights of a punting quickie are so short. In a proper relationship, even if not a long term one, there are other dimensions of sexual fulfilment that can be explored.

Dopamine levels can be low for a range of reasons including depression. Punting can induce a dopamine spike to counteract this but it is not a long term solution.

Potluck2.0
30-04-2023, 07:54 PM
I’m 2 weeks and 1 day clean now. Pulled out 100 at the atm today but couldn’t think of a shop where I wanted to get a half an hour nhj so that particular desire has passed now. As the above poster said it’s like alcohol, you gotta taper off and then extinguish it. I’m sure at some stage I will fall off the wagon and punt again but for now able to keep the demon away. The more I punt the more I want to punt but the opposite is also true, the less I punt the less I want to punt. There’s no optimum level where I can find balance

OLD SNAKE
30-04-2023, 08:08 PM
there are a lot of advantages from punting, you get to fuck a lot of different younger looking women without any headaches of having a girlfriend
the disadvantage is you tend to spend so much money and risk getting an sti, and there is no mental fulfilment
the only solution is to go cold turkey and find a girlfriend, or multiple fuck buddies, the hunt to find one in person or online can be a great solution to this issue, because you know you need to invest in yourself first, going to the gym and getting fit, grooming, and any other self improvements,

Sibon
30-04-2023, 08:34 PM
Anyone uses punting as escapism from work?

Eg: going to a punt to forget about all work related trouble

I have a friend who blows 1/3 of his net after tax pay on punting

How do you stop this addiction from getting worse

Seek spiritual enlightenment.

JohnJones
30-04-2023, 08:55 PM
and there is no mental fulfilment
the only solution is to go cold turkey and find a girlfriend, or multiple fuck buddies, the hunt to find one in person or online can be a great solution to this issue, because you know you need to invest in yourself first, going to the gym and getting fit, grooming, and any other self improvements,

Interesting. When it comes to fulfilling our sexual desires we often chase it down the rabbit hole and end up not satisfied. We always want more.

From condom sex to bareback sex, then from any pussy to a really tight kitty cat, then progress to butthole, then to a man's butthole. And the next thing we know is that we're going nowhere.

Self-improvement is probably the best way to get rid of sex addictions and to also get a better job. The only reason some people are stuck in a job they hate doing is because of mental poverty. Thinking rich involves generosity without judgement - how many people working in the city blatantly ignores the line of homeless people begging as they walk to the train station eager to get home from work?

The homeless who beg for money and can't even afford to punt like us has the worst mental poverty - they see a $1 coin as if it's a piece of worthless rock.

If anyone can reach the level of self-improvement where they can see a $1 coin as if it's worth billions, and believe that by giving it away they can help countless others with their problems, they can live a life having a girlfriend/wife and have sex with other girls as well if they really want.

You're welcome to troll me for this. I'm speaking out of experience, although these days I'm slowly finding myself focusing on my partner rather than trying out new girls every other day.

Meng
30-04-2023, 09:01 PM
I have a friend who blows 1/3 of his net after tax pay on punting

I would of thought all punting spending would of been after tax, unless there's some salary sacrifice thing for brothels that I don't know of?

GoldfishMan
30-04-2023, 09:06 PM
Well, I can’t really tell if I’m addicted to punting or not. Been doing this for the last 27 years. Sometimes I’d really get in the mood and absolutely had to get one in. Those times, for sure the urge was there, but the real question is would I have become feral if I had been deprived? I would never know because nothing stood in my way. I always had a way to get what I wanted.

Anyway, here I am having gone completely dry for April. I don’t feel a thing! No extra urge to go punting. Instead I’m feeling extra horny for my wife!

Go figure!

Michaelli2000
30-04-2023, 09:59 PM
Some guys actually treat WL like a lifeless doll, f; f and Nick off

Looks like they are venting out their frustration (work) via sex with WL

Imagine being a WL and getting stuck with rough guy for 1 hour, can they actual cancel the session if they think the punter is being too rough?

Watched documentary the other day that some WL is actually getting Trafficked into the country, sobering yeah?

JohnJones
01-05-2023, 12:13 AM
I always had a way to get what I wanted.

That sounds like a monster child upbringing. Would be a disaster if you end up not getting what you wanted.

Oh wait, I remember now that we are in real life where absolutely no one will get what they want at the time and place they want it!

Get real mate. You're gloating on a story that you've made up thinking someone here is going to read it and think you're an awesome person. Your every word sound like a conman ready to build another FTX blunder.

And you're welcomed to argue about my views in regards to self-improvement if you think you have better methods to avoid addictions. Because your fake gloating isn't even helping with the issue discussed in this thread.

Sibon
01-05-2023, 01:12 AM
Well, I can’t really tell if I’m addicted to punting or not. Been doing this for the last 27 years. Sometimes I’d really get in the mood and absolutely had to get one in. Those times, for sure the urge was there, but the real question is would I have become feral if I had been deprived? I would never know because nothing stood in my way. I always had a way to get what I wanted.

Anyway, here I am having gone completely dry for April. I don’t feel a thing! No extra urge to go punting. Instead I’m feeling extra horny for my wife!

Go figure!

27 years? You probably enjoy a 2 income family.

I did not punt in my entire adult life until 2 years ago. My wife didn't work and I had a young kid to raise and a mortgage.

I've called it an "early retirement" to run a small business and only now have the financial means and time to punt. Still I don't want to blow away my nest egg on MLs.

I think I'm beginning to get jaded with punting. The standard of the physical appearance of the MLs is pretty low. I speak this from a photographer who has shot models from Germany, France, Italy, Canada, USA and South America etc. We are lucky in Australia to have so many of them from so many countries.

Having it out with a stranger lacks the spark of doing it with someone we know intimately. Hence I normally stick with 2-3 regulars. Still it's transactional and mechanical sex. I can't escape the feeling of being a dirty old man.

I hope there's a light at the end of tunnel for me. I think I may actively embrace Zen Buddhism after being a non-practising Buddhist for so long. It has to be something higher, transcendental and spiritual for me to stop punting.

Another thing I'm not getting younger and I'm not sexually driven as in younger days.

warwick1
01-05-2023, 02:31 AM
Hey Sibon good to see your wife is back in your stories, but I thought you had 2 kids???

GoldfishMan
01-05-2023, 07:19 AM
That sounds like a monster child upbringing. Would be a disaster if you end up not getting what you wanted.

Oh wait, I remember now that we are in real life where absolutely no one will get what they want at the time and place they want it!

Get real mate. You're gloating on a story that you've made up thinking someone here is going to read it and think you're an awesome person. Your every word sound like a conman ready to build another FTX blunder.

And you're welcomed to argue about my views in regards to self-improvement if you think you have better methods to avoid addictions. Because your fake gloating isn't even helping with the issue discussed in this thread.

Lol, chill out bro. Don't take that sentence out of its context. Read the rest of what I wrote above it. I was only referring to punting. If I wanted to punt, I had a way to make an excuse to go punting even if I was married / had a partner.

Everything else in life, yeah of course I had to go without what I wanted if I didn't have the means for it.

Double_Adapter
01-05-2023, 08:27 AM
Interesting. When it comes to fulfilling our sexual desires we often chase it down the rabbit hole and end up not satisfied. We always want more.

From condom sex to bareback sex, then from any pussy to a really tight kitty cat, then progress to butthole, then to a man's butthole. And the next thing we know is that we're going nowhere.

Self-improvement is probably the best way to get rid of sex addictions and to also get a better job. The only reason some people are stuck in a job they hate doing is because of mental poverty. Thinking rich involves generosity without judgement - how many people working in the city blatantly ignores the line of homeless people begging as they walk to the train station eager to get home from work?

The homeless who beg for money and can't even afford to punt like us has the worst mental poverty - they see a $1 coin as if it's a piece of worthless rock.

If anyone can reach the level of self-improvement where they can see a $1 coin as if it's worth billions, and believe that by giving it away they can help countless others with their problems, they can live a life having a girlfriend/wife and have sex with other girls as well if they really want.

You're welcome to troll me for this. I'm speaking out of experience, although these days I'm slowly finding myself focusing on my partner rather than trying out new girls every other day.

Real talk there! Self improvement is the only way but it must focus on the - physical, intellectual, emotional, and spiritual. Unfortunately this is way too deep for some punters; so it's best to keep the dialogue shallow and superficial.

Anyway some people punt to escape work, others to escape loveless and sexless marriages, others to escape stagnant relationships, some to escape a boring and monotonous life, some to make up for wasted younger years and lost opportunities, and others to get a fix of oxytocin and dopemine.

l337dude
01-05-2023, 09:21 AM
I see punting more as an escapism from life really, the shitty life that I'm stuck in, mostly stress and family related (sometimes work as well but mostly family), don't get me wrong I'm big on self-improvement, I look after myself physically, exercise + clean diet as best as I can, that's the part I have control of, but mentally...that's another story, there are some things in life you just can't escape from...

warwick1
01-05-2023, 09:43 AM
I see punting more as an escapism from life really, the shitty life that I'm stuck in, mostly stress and family related (sometimes work as well but mostly family), don't get me wrong I'm big on self-improvement, I look after myself physically, exercise + clean diet as best as I can, that's the part I have control of, but mentally...that's another story, there are some things in life you just can't escape from...

Prepare for the rush of google experts to get you through this, you should get advice from a professional not the numbnuts here.......

Meng
01-05-2023, 10:54 AM
I see punting more as an escapism from life really, the shitty life that I'm stuck in, mostly stress and family related (sometimes work as well but mostly family), don't get me wrong I'm big on self-improvement, I look after myself physically, exercise + clean diet as best as I can, that's the part I have control of, but mentally...that's another story, there are some things in life you just can't escape from...


Prepare for the rush of google experts to get you through this, you should get advice from a professional not the numbnuts here.......

Numbnut here to give you some advice. The best way to deal with mental health issues is to bottle it up inside and never talk about it. Trust me it's solid advice.

birch
01-05-2023, 11:15 AM
Even great jobs have long moments of sheer boredom while you wait for the system to catchup or someone to reply or payments to be made, etc... That's when I go for a punt... Pure escapism. beats doom scrolling, watching porn, etc. for me.

l337dude
01-05-2023, 11:18 AM
Numbnut here to give you some advice. The best way to deal with mental health issues is to bottle it up inside and never talk about it. Trust me it's solid advice.

Yea believe it or not I never talk about it with people around me, most people probably wouldn't get it anyway, I just bottle it up and get on with life, no point complaining or being negative, just feels a bit lonely sometimes (don't we all), since the op mentioned the topic of escapism I thought I'd bring it up, that's honestly one of the main reason I punt, I believe deep down we all have our own inner demons, some worse than others...

thepoonter
01-05-2023, 06:27 PM
The same goes with porn addiction, I guess there's a fine line between escapism and addiction. Eventually this'll become an addiction if people don't control it or justifying they need to punt due to their circumstances.

Sibon
01-05-2023, 08:19 PM
The best way to deal with mental health issues is to bottle it up inside and never talk about it.

Thanks for the great advice for Warwick1.

Artarmon Mental Hospital should lock him up. :)

warwick1
01-05-2023, 09:36 PM
Thanks for the great advice for Warwick1.

Artarmon Mental Hospital should lock him up. :)

Strange thing to say from a creepy middle aged man who's whole aim in life is to post BS stories on the forum which by his own admission are "nonsensical ramblings",a total fruitloop living in Disneyland...........

Potluck2.0
01-05-2023, 10:57 PM
Grats bro, keep it up. Are you abstaining / no fap?

Ive had years off in the past what i found helped out was exerting yourself on exercise to keep the energy levels down otherwise i felt iritated and needed to punt. I managed to stay away for 2 years then startedagain.....

Still fapping. Have a dead bedroom with the missus so I gotta fap to stay sane. I’m trying to exercise more but stamina is way down on when I was younger so there’s only so much I can do. Not gonna push heavy weights or run a marathon. Just lots of walks and clean eating to try to stay out of the depressive funk that inevitably comes from quitting punting.

Been watching some YouTube videos on stoicism and trying to practice gratitude for simple things in life like the beautiful country we live in, clean air, green parks, clean water, fresh produce. I’m having ups and downs at the moment but pushing through so far

Sibon
02-05-2023, 02:35 AM
......Been watching some YouTube videos on stoicism and trying to practice gratitude for simple things in life like the beautiful country we live in, clean air, green parks, clean water, fresh produce. I’m having ups and downs at the moment but pushing through so far

You've said it very well.

I'm also grateful of the opportunities this country has given me and my kid.

Sibon
02-05-2023, 02:39 AM
Still fapping. Have a dead bedroom with the missus so I gotta fap to stay sane. I’m trying to exercise more but stamina is way down on when I was younger so there’s only so much I can do. Not gonna push heavy weights or run a marathon. Just lots of walks and clean eating to try to stay out of the depressive funk that inevitably comes from quitting punting.....


Well done. When you come out of it please tell us more so that we could learn from your journey.

Out of punting we could achieve so much in life.

warwick1
02-05-2023, 03:42 AM
You've said it very well.

I'm also grateful of the opportunities this country has given me and my kid.

Kid?? What happened to the other imaginary one, hmm, something evil afoot........

OLD SNAKE
02-05-2023, 11:53 AM
people talk about bottling up their emotions, but it can build up like a pressure cooker, than you can have an mental explosion, that could cost you your job or your social or private life,
the one good thing about this forum you can vent those frustrations here, without being judge because most of us are in the same shoes as other members here,
and the money you would spend on psychologist sessions you can put towards punting or a trip to candy land Pattaya

Sibon
02-05-2023, 04:52 PM
people talk about bottling up their emotions, but it can build up like a pressure cooker, than you can have an mental explosion, that could cost you your job or your social or private life,
the one good thing about this forum you can vent those frustrations here, without being judge because most of us are in the same shoes as other members here,
and the money you would spend on psychologist sessions you can put towards punting or a trip to candy land Pattaya

The trouble with psychopath like Warwick1 is he vents his venom, toxicity and foul mouth on every member here making people afraid to post.

He should be banned for the health of this community.

I don't know how he managed to escape from the asylum and be a danger to the society.

warwick1
02-05-2023, 05:03 PM
The trouble with psychopath like Warwick1 is he vents his venom, toxicity and foul mouth on every member here making people afraid to post.

He should be banned for the health of this community.

I don't know how he managed to escape from the asylum and be a danger to the society.

Stop making up ridiculous stories and tell the truth, simple as that moron.....

jsw1888
02-05-2023, 08:38 PM
As Nietzsche said; alcohol is the opium of the masses. However he may have also agreed that punting is the opium of the male masses. He did think that sex was a great thing to partake in and perhaps contracted syphilis from it which killed him at 42. His point was alcohol makes it harder for people confront and address what makes them unhappy. Similarly, punting can be a form of delightful and expensive escapism from things that you want to avoid or make you unhappy.

Maybe your friend should spend the money and time he spends punting on looking for a better fitting or exciting job, or tackling the work issues that bother him.

Nietzsche would have frowned on regular punting as he probably thought it was better spending the money and time on addressing issues or seeking out a hot relationship, or on spicing up an existing relationship. The delights of a punting quickie are so short. In a proper relationship, even if not a long term one, there are other dimensions of sexual fulfilment that can be explored.

Dopamine levels can be low for a range of reasons including depression. Punting can induce a dopamine spike to counteract this but it is not a long term solution.

Think you meant Karl Marx, and his quote was 'religion is the opium of the masses '

Jamit
02-05-2023, 11:48 PM
Think you meant Karl Marx, and his quote was 'religion is the opium of the masses '

Ah yes. I think you are right. Nietzsche was big on the idea that confronting your problems is needed but takes alot of effort. Alcohol deadens your mind and feelings so you are not in the state needed to work out what the fuck is wrong that led to the compulsion to drink.

Unlike alcohol, a punt is short and sweet but the build up to the visit can be all encompassing. I have used it as an ant depressant. Although a dud punt can make me more depressed. The thing is that it might be better to find other ways to address sad times like get excercise, meet a friend, have a great meal etc.

One effect of punting which is detrimental is that it can make me stingy. For instance, if I have blown $200 in a week on a massage then I am less likely to be generous that week with friends and family. This is one of the main motivators for me giving up. I'd rather have more surplus for connecting with the people in my life.

Sibon
03-05-2023, 04:55 AM
Anyone uses punting as escapism from work?

Eg: going to a punt to forget about all work related trouble

I have a friend who blows 1/3 of his net after tax pay on punting

How do you stop this addiction from getting worse

It's an expensive way to escape from work related stress.

The other day my regular ML told me she bought a bottle of skincare product for $700.

Who is paying it? Suckers like you and me.

That's a salutory lesson to punt less and put the money to better use.

GoldfishMan
03-05-2023, 07:42 AM
When I'm under the pump at work, punting or even sex would be the last thing on my mind. I've tried pushing ahead and going to a booking made earlier just as something unexpected came up at work. Those were dreadful sessions, my mind was a million lightyears away.

Instead, what I often do is reward myself with a punt after I'd achieved something big at work. That's when I enjoy the sessions a lot more.

warwick1
03-05-2023, 07:54 AM
It's an expensive way to escape from work related stress.

The other day my regular ML told me she bought a bottle of skincare product for $700.

Who is paying it? Suckers like you and me.

That's a salutory lesson to punt less and put the money to better use.

Yes for better use like looking after your imaginary family......

ColesBag
04-05-2023, 11:20 PM
Go for quality rather than quantity punts is all of the advice I can give really. Then you won't get burnout or addiction. Once a week, week and a half works just fine for me.

Potluck2.0
06-05-2023, 07:52 PM
Go for quality rather than quantity punts is all of the advice I can give really. Then you won't get burnout or addiction. Once a week, week and a half works just fine for me.

Made it to 3 weeks clean today. Was gonna end the streak this morning but my regular was busy so that got me past that need. Will put some more runs on the board in terms of days without punting. Don’t feel any better or worse yet, wallet is seeing some improvement

wanwan88
06-05-2023, 08:35 PM
Anyone uses punting as escapism from work?

Eg: going to a punt to forget about all work related trouble

I have a friend who blows 1/3 of his net after tax pay on punting

How do you stop this addiction from getting worse

I admit, i do at times use punting due to work related issues. Sometimes you just want to lay down get a good/decent/average massage and have a release. But 1/3 is a little extreme.

GoldfishMan
06-05-2023, 09:02 PM
Made it to 3 weeks clean today. Was gonna end the streak this morning but my regular was busy so that got me past that need. Will put some more runs on the board in terms of days without punting. Don’t feel any better or worse yet, wallet is seeing some improvement

Here's a tip. It's easy to get through it if you "financially castrate" yourself.

What I mean is, you got some spare cash around, that makes you tempted to splash it on whores. Well, don't leave it lying around, put it into something good. Pay off loans, invest in ultra safe assets (you decide, no financial advice here!), or simply use it to treat someone you always wanted to treat.

Without the capability to punt, you will not be so focused on punting.

chemistry84
06-05-2023, 09:14 PM
Here's a tip. It's easy to get through it if you "financially castrate" yourself.

What I mean is, you got some spare cash around, that makes you tempted to splash it on whores. Well, don't leave it lying around, put it into something good. Pay off loans, invest in ultra safe assets (you decide, no financial advice here!), or simply use it to treat someone you always wanted to treat.

Without the capability to punt, you will not be so focused on punting.

To add to this, you should also block/limit access to punting forums like this, locanto/escort and babe to castrate yourself.

I track my spending on everything and budget (work in investment banking so no surprises lol) and already this year I've spent 11k on punting... this is also small by some of the bigger punters here but definitely not great either. I could have put that cash in JEPI ETF and get an annualised 7% (obviously has it's risk and dividend risk) but definitely better value and returns out there than punting so often :(

Potluck2.0
07-05-2023, 03:44 PM
Welp, punted this morning with a regular and spent the last $100 of my punting budget. My subconscious was telling me i needed to punt. This morning I woke up from a dream where I gave daty to one girl and dfk'd another one, both were people I knew from 20-25 years ago so decided to get it out of my system.

I was all excited but the reality was a let down. The ML in question wasn't as pretty as she was in my anticipatory imagination. She was older that what I remember and star-fished the whole time in mish apart from a BBBJ and 69 DATY that lasted a few minutes. In the heat of the moment the orgasm was good but I felt intensely emotionally empty afterwards as I went about my day shopping for cheap groceries at aldi in the cold and rain.

I have financially castrated myself as GFMan has advised up above so no more punting for quite a while.

l337dude
07-05-2023, 04:09 PM
but I felt intensely emotionally empty afterwards as I went about my day shopping for cheap groceries at aldi in the cold and rain.

I have financially castrated myself as GFMan has advised up above so no more punting for quite a while.

That sounds kinda depressing, but then again it's probably what happens to me a lot of the times...

asiafever
07-05-2023, 05:46 PM
It's not just work that we may seek to escape.

The other day I NEEDED to go somewhere, I needed an hour where the outside world just didn't exist. It had to be with someone I know because I really couldn't be fucked going through the whole "How do you do's?" bullshit, but at the same time I needed to be with someone who knew nothing about what was going on beyond those doors. Seeing as I don't have regulars any more, and it was last minute, and it had to be close by (I was in Carlo at the time) AND my 1st choice (Iu) wasn't working that day I went with Abby at TR190 who I had seen the week before.

Of course, it solved nothing, when I emerged the issue was still there, but for that hour, just for that brief moment in time, all that mattered was that I was receiving a fantastic massage from a lovely girl and could forget, or rather put to one side, what was happening, it was a small escape but without it honestly I would have struggled. As it was for the rest of the week I was able to remain strong to help those who needed me to be.

Vincent888
06-11-2023, 04:05 PM
Anyone uses punting as escapism from work?

Eg: going to a punt to forget about all work related trouble

I have a friend who blows 1/3 of his net after tax pay on punting

How do you stop this addiction from getting worse

If he’s ok with the spend then why not?

steelfreddy2
06-11-2023, 08:03 PM
Anyone uses punting as escapism from work?

Eg: going to a punt to forget about all work related trouble

I have a friend who blows 1/3 of his net after tax pay on punting

How do you stop this addiction from getting worse

We had been there than that. we all have that experience not necessarily at work but in life in general that we want to escape, even for a while.