High / ridiculous prices ? Sorry, no longer horny ...

[carlco777]

these days, i feel more and more this way, with the prices being quoted to me.

anyone else ?

i'm boycotting ..........

[4FoW2]

Many are. I have a circle of contacts in the punting community and all tell me they are punting less due to 2 things price and performance.
And please enough with the " I've got a regular who gives me top performance at a great price because I am such a good client"
Most of my punting friends are not happy with a massage and just a RnT. Seems Wg's due to lack of clients are trying to charge more to fill the gap.
This strategy is common in the low season in Thai etc.
Little do they understand that if they drop their prices then by pure volume their earnings will increase. But they didn't get the A's and B's at school, more than likely.

So what does one do?

My strategy now: 2 x OS trips per year (usually June & Dec) to Phil/ Thai etc, 4 Footy & Fucking Trips to Sydney, when I get really horny - go to "proven" shop and take my chances and of course, regular use of Pornhub et al.
Apparently mental health professionals say to keep a positive and optimistic view on life you should always have something to look forward to in the near future - the trips OS and Sydney trips dispersed through out the year give me this.
So its usually 6- 8 wks before I know there's something good coming up.

For every problem there is a solution.
Hope my contribution gives food for thought for others so they can improve their punting experience. And remember ...if its crap WALK!
4FoW2

[No Pay]

i think someone in here should organize a trip for us all to go to Thailand or PH for a get-drunk-fuck-or-be-fucked kind of experience. But alas, i don't know anything about Thailand nor PH.

[lazcuba77]

hola amigos
thats tru,been away from the game for a while ,due health injure working problem ,back again to see how the game is and found out is
really xpensive now,was quote 100 and forward ,not even 50 for a regular hj ,not anymore,little disappointed cause this place was a regular for me ages
ago and a was really looking forward to have fun like the good old days.
happy punt amigos

[harry444]

"And please enough with the " I've got a regular who gives me top performance at a great price because I am such a good client"."
But it's true.
How about, "please, enough with the whinging about prices" and move on. It's like everything in life, supply and demand.

[JR_punter]

I guess prices will continue to go up, thats life..... u work within your own personal budgets....
WL trying to pay there bills too

[Bucket]

The question is, is the price the same for everyone? Maybe it reflects on you if they seem dear, maybe they’re trying to get you in particular not to do it

[funboybrisbane]

i think someone in here should organize a trip for us all to go to Thailand or PH for a get-drunk-fuck-or-be-fucked kind of experience. But alas, i don't know anything about Thailand nor PH.I'd be down for this. Is there anyone here who is a party planner? [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji48]

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[Ace01]

the worst part about is that with higher price the standard has droooopped.... the VFM equation has totally gone south!

[darkice]

What prices are people seeing now?

Seems the same from where I've come across?

50/100/150/200

[4FoW2]

"And please enough with the " I've got a regular who gives me top performance at a great price because I am such a good client"."
But it's true.
How about, "please, enough with the whinging about prices" and move on. It's like everything in life, supply and demand.
If its true how about some detail?

[4FoW2]

I'd be down for this. Is there anyone here who is a party planner? [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji48]
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There are posters on the board who have the knowledge & experience to organize this BUT getting people to agree on when, where, how long, $$ etc etc is too much of a hassle. Best to travel with a wingman who you know well and you share similar ideas on the finer details.
4FoW2

[partyboy202020]

Many are. I have a circle of contacts in the punting community and all tell me they are punting less due to 2 things price and performance.
And please enough with the " I've got a regular who gives me top performance at a great price because I am such a good client"
Most of my punting friends are not happy with a massage and just a RnT. Seems Wg's due to lack of clients are trying to charge more to fill the gap.
This strategy is common in the low season in Thai etc.
Little do they understand that if they drop their prices then by pure volume their earnings will increase. But they didn't get the A's and B's at school, more than likely.

So what does one do?

My strategy now: 2 x OS trips per year (usually June & Dec) to Phil/ Thai etc, 4 Footy & Fucking Trips to Sydney, when I get really horny - go to "proven" shop and take my chances and of course, regular use of Pornhub et al.
Apparently mental health professionals say to keep a positive and optimistic view on life you should always have something to look forward to in the near future - the trips OS and Sydney trips dispersed through out the year give me this.
So its usually 6- 8 wks before I know there's something good coming up.

For every problem there is a solution.
Hope my contribution gives food for thought for others so they can improve their punting experience. And remember ...if its crap WALK!
4FoW2

That's fucking awesome strategy!

[JohnRoscoe]

With my previous experience of different shops in past 6 weeks its pretty much extras are $50 clothed HJ $100 NHJ, $150 b2bhj or NBJ $200 b2bBJ

[joeblow251]

Many are. I have a circle of contacts in the punting community and all tell me they are punting less due to 2 things price and performance.
And please enough with the " I've got a regular who gives me top performance at a great price because I am such a good client"
Most of my punting friends are not happy with a massage and just a RnT. Seems Wg's due to lack of clients are trying to charge more to fill the gap.
This strategy is common in the low season in Thai etc.
Little do they understand that if they drop their prices then by pure volume their earnings will increase. But they didn't get the A's and B's at school, more than likely.

So what does one do?

My strategy now: 2 x OS trips per year (usually June & Dec) to Phil/ Thai etc, 4 Footy & Fucking Trips to Sydney, when I get really horny - go to "proven" shop and take my chances and of course, regular use of Pornhub et al.
Apparently mental health professionals say to keep a positive and optimistic view on life you should always have something to look forward to in the near future - the trips OS and Sydney trips dispersed through out the year give me this.
So its usually 6- 8 wks before I know there's something good coming up.

For every problem there is a solution.
Hope my contribution gives food for thought for others so they can improve their punting experience. And remember ...if its crap WALK!
4FoW2

Yup - exactly what I have started - first trip to TH was in March for 3 weeks - looking at cheap flights for the next one - though never been to PH - may have to try that and compare.....

[4FoW2]

[QUOTE=joeblow251;2678500]Yup - exactly what I have started - first trip to TH was in March for 3 weeks - looking at cheap flights for the next one - though never been to PH - may have to try that and compare.....[/QUOTE
PAL ( Phil Airlines) are cheaper than others and trip is ok - manilla airport is not the best but if its just a stopover its ok.
Maybe look at PAL to manilla stay a week then Thai and then return home - my last trip to Phil got Bus flight return for 2.3k return.
4FoW2

[joeblow251]

[QUOTE=joeblow251;2678500]Yup - exactly what I have started - first trip to TH was in March for 3 weeks - looking at cheap flights for the next one - though never been to PH - may have to try that and compare.....[/QUOTE
PAL ( Phil Airlines) are cheaper than others and trip is ok - manilla airport is not the best but if its just a stopover its ok.
Maybe look at PAL to manilla stay a week then Thai and then return home - my last trip to Phil got Bus flight return for 2.3k return.
4FoW2

Sounds like a good plan - will look at that as an option for next one - and not bad for business flights price....

[4FoW2]

Thought about a punt today and was doing research. Now for me its about the extras not the massage, the massage is just preliminaries before the main event.
I am noticing that most places now are $70 for 1 hr and $50 for 30 mins. At the 40/60 price point I thought OK I can go for trials and walk out if I choose but 50/70 for the unknown seems as the original poster said ridiculous.
Interesting my all up maximum spend per session is $250 but I think the Wg's are killing their possible business off by charging high prices for just the massage. I mean it seems insane to get $50 for probably realistically 25 mins work and you just stand there and rub here rub there and then say ok times up.
I know its only $10 more ( and I know they have their overheads) but do others think the $10 increase is a bit stiff?
4FoW2

[iamking]

I think realistically no ML gets the full massage fee. If it's a $70 for an hour, at best they get is 50% of that. Mls receive a basic wage of $25 - $30 an hour. Hence they make the money on extras. A few shops take all the massage fee and the MLs rely on the extras. Some shops fine girls if they don't come to work, come late, receive bad reviews.
So MLs may charge $50 to rub here and there, but that's not their wage.
If you're a ML how much should one earn (not talking about extras) in Australia for massaging random old men who try to touch them not stop?
Are pricing going up? As far as I can tell, not at the shops I frequent. They've been the same for years. Even T5 back in the day charged $70hr and many thought they were the golden standard.
I assume many of us earn more than we did 4 years ago.
Even Sydney massage shops have increased in prices. Brothels have increased in price.
The only complaint i have is private escorts ridiculous prices.

[JR_punter]

I think realistically no ML gets the full massage fee. If it's a $70 for an hour, at best they get is 50% of that. Mls receive a basic wage of $25 - $30 an hour. Hence they make the money on extras. A few shops take all the massage fee and the MLs rely on the extras. Some shops fine girls if they don't come to work, come late, receive bad reviews.
So MLs may charge $50 to rub here and there, but that's not their wage.
If you're a ML how much should one earn (not talking about extras) in Australia for massaging random old men who try to touch them not stop?
Are pricing going up? As far as I can tell, not at the shops I frequent. They've been the same for years. Even T5 back in the day charged $70hr and many thought they were the golden standard.
I assume many of us earn more than we did 4 years ago.
Even Sydney massage shops have increased in prices. Brothels have increased in price.
The only complaint i have is private escorts ridiculous prices.


Yes and the other point is they probably do a 10 hour day say, and need to share with the number of staff in the shop, so wouldnt be doing 10 clients a day….relie on extras to make it worth while

[APuntingwewillgo]

the VFM from most shops isn't there, at least for me. Like most I've had missed success with privates at the $100/30min level. At least for that money is a fully nude service with some respectful touching, often much more

[Kaharoa]

I have just been in Perth for 2 weeks and I can honestly say we are getting ripped here in Brisbane.

Bodyheat massage $180 for an hour, lady is fully naked whole time, custom built establishment, beds with a hole in the middle so you can hang free, front and back bodyslides and most of the ladies there are top notch.

Yet to find anything comparable in Brisbane.

[popeye96]

15 to 20 years ago the standard price at many shops was $60/hr, with some charging $50, so a $10 increase in that time I don't think is unreasonable.

[harry444]

We have a financial divide between the tight arses and those who pay market prices. The same girl will provide completely different services to each group. Choose whichever you prefer.

[4FoW2]

15 to 20 years ago the standard price at many shops was $60/hr, with some charging $50, so a $10 increase in that time I don't think is unreasonable.
Hey Pop - just wondering if you paid $60/ hr in 2003 for the massage, can you remember what the extras were?
From my records in 1991 I was paying $50 a session total, now my memory fades but I'm pretty sure that would have been BS with NHj at least, possibly FS, but not sure.
4FoW2

[Ace01]

2000-2003 massage $50-$60/hr - a proper massage - follow up usual $30HJ or $50 top nude or $80 full nude/slide - occassionally some offer full BJ and body slide touching for $100 - price increase was acceptable but quality of therapist /attitude / quality of service has gone south

[4FoW2]

2000-2003 massage $50-$60/hr - a proper massage - follow up usual $30HJ or $50 top nude or $80 full nude/slide - occassionally some offer full BJ and body slide touching for $100 - price increase was acceptable but quality of therapist /attitude / quality of service has gone south

Yep concur with those prices - my usual spend back in early 2000's was $150 all up which I think was 50 M fee and 100 extras whereby not necessarily FS but definitely BS with NHj and touching allowed.
In 1990's my sessions were 5% of my net fortnightly wage now its around 12%. Agre with Ace, I could handle the price increases as long as the service quality was there, which its not and to me its a gamble now.
$FoW2

[Bed Wrecker]

Ah the good old days discussion.
Time to wrap it up grandpas. Whats next? Young people today?

[FredWard63]

Putting the issue of quality to one side. I was curious to know if you spent $150 in 2001 what the equivalent is for today? A quick search told me $1 in 2001 is equivalent to $1.71 today. So, $150 in 2001 is eqivalent to $256 today. The shop fee of $50 in 2001 is equivalent to $85 today. $100 in 2001 is $175 today. So, based on this price has increased, but the increase would appear to be not all that different to what you would expect. However, on the quality side, it does appear that shrinkflation (it's an actual term in economics) is in operation and is affecting both quantity and quality.

[dave.j8811]

Ah the good old days discussion.
Time to wrap it up grandpas. Whats next? Young people today?

They’ll be on about interest rates soon

[harry444]

I'm an old guy too. And I'm dreading this type of conversation when I move into my retirement home. Hopefully I'll be too senile to know about it.

[The Professor]

Don't usually contribute to general discussion, but felt a need to make a point. Using historical statistical data to compare and analyse a current economic situation, to me, seems like a perfectly logical and intelligent thing to do, as MR. FredWrad has done as well.
Yes, I too, sit on the porch in my rocking chair, watching the young bucks galavant around thinking quietly to myself " Young, dumb and full ....", you know the rest.
Don't kid yourself, you'll be there one day.
Puff Puff Prof

[VFlowers]

Puff Puff Prof

As a totally off-topic aside, I'd like to add that 'Puff' is a German slang word for brothel...... ;)

I could make a few on-topic comments, but most of you guys here don't want to discuss politics and root causes, and instead prefer to blame the 'greedy girls'...

In another thread a guy here stated that he didn't regard MLs/WLs as humans, we recently read the proud report of someone who caused a deliberate CIM 'accident', a few weeks ago a ML told me how she got almost raped by a 'customer', etc. etc.; maybe all this has also a bit to do with motivation, prices and service quality.

[popeye96]

Hey Pop - just wondering if you paid $60/ hr in 2003 for the massage, can you remember what the extras were?
From my records in 1991 I was paying $50 a session total, now my memory fades but I'm pretty sure that would have been BS with NHj at least, possibly FS, but not sure.
4FoW2

I was younger, dumber and broker in those days, so usually just went the basic option. Handed over two fifties for a $60 shop fee and said keep the rest for extras. There was of course only a handful of shops in and around Brisbane back then, so the quality was much higher. If I was after more, I would happily drive down the Goldie on occasion where you could get much better bang for buck which would have left me out of pocket around $120/$130 for an hour with bodyslide and DATY and a BJ if you got the right girl.

Back in the late 90's before I discovered Asian massage places, I was seeing this caucasian girl very regularly. It was a $60/hr session and started off as a legit massage. After a few visits managed to get a HJ included. Not long till the sessions ended up fully nude with BBBJ and DATY. Never paid any extra. Never had the guts to hit her up for more unfortunately. When she stopped doing massage, that's when I discovered the Asian places. The good old days. haha

[Yellow Fever]

The question is, is the price the same for everyone? Maybe it reflects on you if they seem dear, maybe they’re trying to get you in particular not to do it

I think that’s a fair comment?
Read a review on this site, some punter reporting he’d paid 6 pineapples for FS.
I visited the same girl, a few weeks later. FS was offered at 4 pineapples.

I’m still paying 3 pineapples for Option 3, and 4 pineapples for option 4.
If asked to pay more….I politely decline.
I’ve also come across some girls, that are new to me, who take a different approach with pricing. They list the menu, then ask how much I’m willing to pay? I guess it’s a tactic…..try and maximise profit from the unwary? Personally, it puts me off….usually leads to some form of bartering process. I can’t be bothered with that….. it’s become a transaction, not a connection.
Obviously, it goes without say, the very best experiences I’ve had, money is never mentioned…..that’s when you’ve found a reg.

On a tangent; big price hike I’ve noticed, entry fee at certain shops?
Some are now asking $80-$90 for an hour. I tend to walk, unless there’s the carrot is too tempting?
Then I’m praying I’ve found a reg…..lol.

[4FoW2]

I asked another punter who claims great prices for some detail but get crickets.
Hey Yella, these shops where FS is 4 pines. Any details, I mean at least you can give us a suburb and we can work out the likely candidates.
Which shops are asking $80-$90 for an hour? To me if they are asking that much it screams rip off and I'm not even considering it.
BYVMD
4FoW2

[adhamaff]

i think someone in here should organize a trip for us all to go to Thailand or PH for a get-drunk-fuck-or-be-fucked kind of experience. But alas, i don't know anything about Thailand nor PH.

good idea. much cheaper and lots of fun in thailand

[jaccky]

I have just been in Perth for 2 weeks and I can honestly say we are getting ripped here in Brisbane.

Bodyheat massage $180 for an hour, lady is fully naked whole time, custom built establishment, beds with a hole in the middle so you can hang free, front and back bodyslides and most of the ladies there are top notch.

Yet to find anything comparable in Brisbane.

You are conflating legitimate and illegitimate service prices here. But you are correct, Brisbane does not have anything comparable–at least that I'm aware of. I wonder why that is..

[APuntingwewillgo]

got the shock of my life yesterday when I rocked up for a $60/30 min appointment. I little fondling and what not and ending up with her on the table and me balls deep inside her. Its rare but it happens

[JohnRoscoe]

got the shock of my life yesterday when I rocked up for a $60/30 min appointment. I little fondling and what not and ending up with her on the table and me balls deep inside her. Its rare but it happens

Where and who was this PM please :-)

[ococpunt]

All I can see from this industry is:
1. Decline in quality of service
2. Decline in quality of MLs
3. Increase in price of extras
4. Increase in age of the MLs
And the worse thing is nowdays I choose where to punt just to avoid disappointments rather to have fun, that's not how it suppose to be when you are the one spending $200 on each visit...

[4FoW2]

got the shock of my life yesterday when I rocked up for a $60/30 min appointment. I little fondling and what not and ending up with her on the table and me balls deep inside her. Its rare but it happens
Any details or hints APWWG or are you just trying to win the pissing contest?
4FoW2

[Yellow Fever]

I asked another punter who claims great prices for some detail but get crickets.
Hey Yella, these shops where FS is 4 pines. Any details, I mean at least you can give us a suburb and we can work out the likely candidates.
Which shops are asking $80-$90 for an hour? To me if they are asking that much it screams rip off and I'm not even considering it.
BYVMD
4FoW2

All Southside shops, all within 10-12 minutes of the M1.
None of them are crickets…..I can guarantee you that….lol.

105 Wellington Rd is $80.
Smile is $80.
I think Time is $80? There was a stuff up with the room, so got my money back and walked. Pretty certain I handed over $80?
There’s a new shop in the City, on Mary St, I think? They wanted $90!!!

[FredWard63]

Hi 4 Floors, I'm trying to understand the logic here. If you were happy to spend $50 on the massage in the early 2000s, why the concern over spending $70 now? Given the change in purchasing power of the $ over the past 20 years, $70 or $80 for that matter, is actually cheaper than $50 back then. I think your real, and legitimate gripe is not really the cost of the massage, but rather the quality of the extras.

[FredWard63]

I've come across the girls who ask "how much am I willing to pay" and my response is "as little as possible". I follow up with "how much do you think your service is worth and what you are willing to do to earn it". What unfolds then is often interesting and at times entertaining, but as they commenced the negotiation process, I feel obliged to negotiate!

[carlco777]

I've come across the girls who ask "how much am I willing to pay" and my response is "as little as possible". I follow up with "how much do you think your service is worth and what you are willing to do to earn it". What unfolds then is often interesting and at times entertaining, but as they commenced the negotiation process, I feel obliged to negotiate!

i hate when people ask "how much are you wiling to pay" it makes me feel like they are trying to squeeze water out of a stone.

[4FoW2]

Hi 4 Floors, I'm trying to understand the logic here. If you were happy to spend $50 on the massage in the early 2000s, why the concern over spending $70 now? Given the change in purchasing power of the $ over the past 20 years, $70 or $80 for that matter, is actually cheaper than $50 back then. I think your real, and legitimate gripe is not really the cost of the massage, but rather the quality of the extras.

From an earleir post by me in this thread - quote " I could handle the price increases as long as the service quality was there, which its not and to me its a gamble now." so yes you are right.
4FoW2

[APL]

All I can see from this industry is:
1. Decline in quality of service
2. Decline in quality of MLs
3. Increase in price of extras
4. Increase in age of the MLs
And the worse thing is nowdays I choose where to punt just to avoid disappointments rather to have fun, that's not how it suppose to be when you are the one spending $200 on each visit...

100% with you Bro upside is I saving big time considering Im not punting only using regs

[APuntingwewillgo]

Any details or hints APWWG or are you just trying to win the pissing contest?
4FoW2

not a pissing contest, you can see from my previous activity on this forum that's not what I'm about. Already had a couple of punters PM me and happily provide contact details.

this one was at Bundall on the GC, number from Locanto

[Puntersclub]

I wonder what effect the legalisation of the shops will have on pricing? There is obviously a lot of collusion on pricing. I’ve never seen an industry with so much competition and fixed pricing. There must be a lot of crook backs out there to support what seems to be a shop ( or two) in every suburb.

[carlco777]

legalization will not change the quality of what is on offer in Brisbane.

if you are looking at the situation from the girl's point of view, QLD is still considered backwards or rural, and as such, the population would not be able to afford the services offered. this is the main reason why SYD or MLB have more international WL/ML

[carlco777]

if they go to SYD or MLB where the population is greater, the customers-per-day there compared to what they can get in QLD is much much more. and since there is more competition there, the prices there appear to be lower than QLD

[harry444]

Just got a quote to do some electrical work. One day, one person, $500 material costs. All up $5,500 and I don't even get a happy ending. And some people call ML's greedy. They probably laugh with friends about lazy greedy Aussies.

[Selecta]

Just got a quote to do some electrical work. One day, one person, $500 material costs. All up $5,500 and I don't even get a happy ending. And some people call ML's greedy. They probably laugh with friends about lazy greedy Aussies.
Dont know what your complaining about, at least you get fucked! 🤣

[miiata]

Just got a quote to do some electrical work. One day, one person, $500 material costs. All up $5,500 and I don't even get a happy ending. And some people call ML's greedy. They probably laugh with friends about lazy greedy Aussies.

you should have just got an Asian to do it for less than half the prize.

[ococpunt]

Just got a quote to do some electrical work. One day, one person, $500 material costs. All up $5,500 and I don't even get a happy ending. And some people call ML's greedy. They probably laugh with friends about lazy greedy Aussies.

not sure what kind of "job" you doing, but $5k a day labour? you are getting yourself ripppppped off BIG TIME!!!

[joeblow251]

not sure what kind of "job" you doing, but $5k a day labour? you are getting yourself ripppppped off BIG TIME!!!

They dont want the job - so ridiculous quote - win win for them I'm guessing

[harry444]

I hasten to add that I didn't go with this quote and am still looking at other options including doing the work myself (please don't rant about "nothing is more important than saafeettyy").
Just pointing out how we complain about an attractive ML, providing good service for $150 + shop fee an hour, yet may happily pay a sparkie $500 an hour.

[Yellow Fever]

Hi 4 Floors, I'm trying to understand the logic here. If you were happy to spend $50 on the massage in the early 2000s, why the concern over spending $70 now? Given the change in purchasing power of the $ over the past 20 years, $70 or $80 for that matter, is actually cheaper than $50 back then. I think your real, and legitimate gripe is not really the cost of the massage, but rather the quality of the extras.

Forget about living in the past, 20 years ago, CPI, all that BS.
Think about the here and now….the real World.
Certain shop prices have increased by 25% in the last couple of months….that’s a fact.
I suggest it’s a price gouge….seems many agree.
Just not you?

[Yellow Fever]

I've come across the girls who ask "how much am I willing to pay" and my response is "as little as possible". I follow up with "how much do you think your service is worth and what you are willing to do to earn it". What unfolds then is often interesting and at times entertaining, but as they commenced the negotiation process, I feel obliged to negotiate!

Well good for you.
I couldn’t think of anything worse…..talk about a mood killer?
If I wanted to haggle, I’d go to the fish market….not a massage shop.

Negotiating with someone who’s second language is broken English?
Entertainment…using your words!!!
Whatever floats your boat….and boosts your ego?
Each to their own, I guess….but it’s not for me.

[4FoW2]

Well good for you.
I couldn’t think of anything worse…..talk about a mood killer?
If I wanted to haggle, I’d go to the fish market….not a massage shop.

Negotiating with someone who’s second language is broken English?
Entertainment…using your words!!!
Whatever floats your boat….and boosts your ego?
Each to their own, I guess….but it’s not for me.

Fair call and its up to you its your money ........but as many know some girls try it on quoting ridiculous prices to see how gullible you are.
OS in Thai & Phil & many SEA countries haggling / negotiating is part of the expected process - in some SEA counries I know the rule is ask the price and then divide it by 3 and thats the real price - but as I said its your money.
If you pay 250 or 200 for FS do you think she changes her performance that much?
4FoW2
4FoW2

[JohnRoscoe]

So what is or would be reasonable rates guys?

[No Pay]

If you pay 250 or 200 for FS do you think she changes her performance that much?
4FoW2
4FoW2

while this might be true, if you pay what she asks for, you will/should get the level of service that she is going to provide. if she quotes you 250 and you offer 200 which she reluctantly agrees ( maybe because it is a slow day or whatever ), she might only put in a half-fuck effort, and she doesn't care if you come back again cos she is not going to do it for that price again.

[Ace01]

while price does provide an incentive - unless you paid a lot more - the service you get is more going to come from the personality/ attitude / skill set of the provider. think about it, if you expect to be paid $400 for a day's work but you ask for $500 because you know he's a nice guy and there's not many of you around, and to your surprise he agrees - how much harder would you work?

[carlco777]

personality/ attitude / skill set of the provider will change with price, especially if she is thinking of repeat business.

<< if you expect to be paid $400 for a day's work but you ask for $500 because you know he's a nice guy >>
what kind of work is this ? if you are a carpenter or a renovator, maybe he will pay you more cos he wants his house to look nice and $100 more is no big deal, if the job is going to be well done. but if you are a waiter or waitress, ask for more and he will tell you to piss off. he can always hire someone for less.

[darkice]

while this might be true, if you pay what she asks for, you will/should get the level of service that she is going to provide. if she quotes you 250 and you offer 200 which she reluctantly agrees ( maybe because it is a slow day or whatever ), she might only put in a half-fuck effort, and she doesn't care if you come back again cos she is not going to do it for that price again.

I agree with this, I think alot does come down to the girl.

[Yellow Fever]

Fair call and its up to you its your money ........but as many know some girls try it on quoting ridiculous prices to see how gullible you are.
OS in Thai & Phil & many SEA countries haggling / negotiating is part of the expected process - in some SEA counries I know the rule is ask the price and then divide it by 3 and thats the real price - but as I said its your money.
If you pay 250 or 200 for FS do you think she changes her performance that much?
4FoW2
4FoW2


Yes, I’ve already acknowledged the gullible…I referred to them as the unwary.
Did you read that comment….or choose to ignore it?

I’ve never been overseas, mongering…..so I can’t comment, got no idea?
I live in SE Qld, that’s the only market I know. After all, this topic is about Qld pricing?

Based on your formula; if I’m asked to pay 4 pineapples….I should divide that by 3?
That would result in one pineapple, and one red back, being handed over…good luck with that approach. It’ll just end in an over paid HJ!!!

Yes, acknowledge your point, twice now…it’s my money, I get that!!!

As for the difference in performance, paying an extra pineapple? Again, I’ve got no idea? The asking price is 4 pineapples….I’m happy to pay that. I’m not going to negotiate to pay more…..when I’m happy with the service being provided.

Seriously, I’ve got no idea what you’re carrying on about?
You scream about punters continually paying overs….then question if paying more would provide the same, or a better service?

Go figure?

[JohnRoscoe]

while this might be true, if you pay what she asks for, you will/should get the level of service that she is going to provide. if she quotes you 250 and you offer 200 which she reluctantly agrees ( maybe because it is a slow day or whatever ), she might only put in a half-fuck effort, and she doesn't care if you come back again cos she is not going to do it for that price again.

Totally agree. So if you don't accept the price offered you get a lack lustre performance. Hence getting a regular ML she then knows you will be back and knows you aren't a complete pig.

[funinqld]

If everything gets legalized or de-criminalized in the next few years hopefully it will improve alot. I am from Sydney from about 5 years ago and its so easy there. When i went back a few years ago and saw a few regulars that are really really good I mentioned the QLD scene and they knew all about it and said they would not do any work up here because of the laws against it but also as there is no protection as they are not allowed to have a couple of girls living together working so to speak. I think a few of them would open a place or work privately up here if the laws were the same as NSW. One of them tried it a few years back but was too worried about setting up even though it would be cheaper for them with rent etc

[carlco777]

i still cannot see how de-criminalization is going to change things in QLD.

[joeblow251]

Totally agree. So if you don't accept the price offered you get a lack lustre performance. Hence getting a regular ML she then knows you will be back and knows you aren't a complete pig.

What, so if they throw out an excessive number and you haggle a bit, then your a pig? - Ive had some want 6 for what most do for 4 pineapples, and they were an average looking ML - each to their own really but when someone does that to me I see how the conversation goes bring it to a "normal" value - if they come down to an my acceptable range and provide a half arse'd effort - I just dont come back to them - the punt continues.....

[Massaddict]

i think someone in here should organize a trip for us all to go to Thailand or PH for a get-drunk-fuck-or-be-fucked kind of experience. But alas, i don't know anything about Thailand nor PH.

Im off to Thailand in 2 weeks for 1 or 2 months,- been many times. So many good shops in Bangkok for a fraction of the cost here.

try this place ....https://dreamheavenmassage.com/

One of my favourites. Check out the girls - just be careful of the Ladyboys.

M.A.

[4FoW2]

Im off to Thailand in 2 weeks for 1 or 2 months,- been many times. So many good shops in Bangkok for a fraction of the cost here.
try this place ....https://dreamheavenmassage.com/
One of my favourites. Check out the girls - just be careful of the Ladyboys.
M.A.
Hey Mass interested in which hotel you stay in in Bangkok- next time I'm staying at Dream. Used to consistently stay in Park Plaza near Term 21 but have tried a few others.
This time going to Hua Hin. Ever been.
Cheers
4FoW2

[funinqld]

What would say 10 days set you back all up including few different girls and a nice cruise and some sight seeing. I know the food is good and cheap but accommodation, flight and girls

[Slops]

What would say 10 days set you back all up including few different girls and a nice cruise and some sight seeing. I know the food is good and cheap but accommodation, flight and girls

Airfares now I would allow 1K AUD, but pre Covid LCC's about half that.
Accommodation is easy to find great quality at cheap prices. 1000 to 1500 baht per night. All depends on your expectation.
Girls? If you go any of the popular bars then include your bar fine. Massage shops, I paid 1200 baht for 45 minutes in March for FS, 2500 for a soapy, but there is always FL's via any of the apps or a place like Thermae or RCA at cheaper prices.

Cruise and site seeing plus transport will be between 500 and 1000 baht per day.

[4FoW2]

I suggest you need to spend NOW 4.5k at least for 2 wks to have a good time with decent accom and decent quality girls.
Flights NOW 1500, accom -if you don't pay at least 100AD a day it will be crappy, Girls - cheap FL 1500. Bar girls min I suggest (drinks, BF & them) 3500TB.
Last 10 years least is 5k dearest trip 7k. Thats Thai remember Phil is cheaper esp flying PAL.

Remember you are going on a holiday to relax, have no stress and enjoy yourself - having substandard flights, accom & girls will make it less than what it could be.

"a nice cruise" - a nice cruise means walking up and down Suk Rd from Soi Cowboy to Nana looking at the talent. No one cruises in Thailand. lol
4FoW2

[harry444]

Not my idea of a cheap sex holiday.

[Bed Wrecker]

Not my idea of a cheap sex holiday.

Exactly. These guys in trying to save $50 are spending thousands to do it. Brilliant logic
If you find a quality ml, Just pony up you cheap bastards.

Im having no trouble finding quality.

[Bucket]

Exactly. These guys in trying to save $50 are spending thousands to do it. Brilliant logic
If you find a quality ml, Just pony up you cheap bastards.

Im having no trouble finding quality.

Same mate quality isn’t an issue, it’s keeping up with the cost lol

[harry444]

A bit deeper. Based on 4fow2's pricing, I could get good service from a quality girl everyday for a month.

[4FoW2]

The trouble is, grasshoppers, when you go OS you understand what " quality" is and when you come home you realize how crap your "quality" service here is.
Name me a ML in Brisbane who will say I want to have your baby, will do any sexual act you wish, who will let you have access 24/7 or come and go as you decide, who will cook, wash, clean and most importantly look after you when you are sick when OS.

Every so often I do a cost analysis between mongering here and OS to get VFM comparison. Over the past 10 years its been $350 a day to go to Phil, $400 to go to Thai,Mal, Sing, Viet etc.
Now for a so called "quality" session here in Brisbane that money would be for 1 hour, based on rates on E&B, locanto etc

And once again, how come these posters that have found "quality" regulars, when asked to share, we ALWAYS hear crickets ( and for the uninformed that means silence)
4FoW2

[harry444]

From comments you have made, I'm assuming you are a similar age to myself. "Grasshoppers", "Joh", etc.
What you say is true and I would love to walk down a street of wall to wall girls to pick from, but each to their own and I'm happy in Brisbane. And you are also correct in that I don't share my reg. I've got into trouble doing that and good ones are easy to find anyway, if you try. The 3 magic words are Clean, Respectful and Money.

[Bed Wrecker]

The trouble is, grasshoppers, when you go OS you understand what " quality" is and when you come home you realize how crap your "quality" service here is.
Name me a ML in Brisbane who will say I want to have your baby, will do any sexual act you wish, who will let you have access 24/7 or come and go as you decide, who will cook, wash, clean and most importantly look after you when you are sick when OS.

Every so often I do a cost analysis between mongering here and OS to get VFM comparison. Over the past 10 years its been $350 a day to go to Phil, $400 to go to Thai,Mal, Sing, Viet etc.
Now for a so called "quality" session here in Brisbane that money would be for 1 hour, based on rates on E&B, locanto etc

And once again, how come these posters that have found "quality" regulars, when asked to share, we ALWAYS hear crickets ( and for the uninformed that means silence)
4FoW2
$350-$400 a day :miao:
To quote Charlie Sheen
“I don’t pay them for sex. I pay them to leave”

Anyone with any sense doesnt share their quality regulars with any tom, dick or 4fow2.
We all punt for different reasons for starters, have different likes and styles etc

Most of the quality ones require development and most cunts here dont have the patience and skill to untap this.

[PhantomPunter]

Agree with you Harry & Wrecker "Clean, Respectful & Money" pay what is a fare amount for the service provided and not try and get away paying for gems with stones.
No problems finding gems to make regulars.
Some of us are also wary of what is behind the "door" as lurkers are too happy to share Intel with a ML to win favour or post shit about a quality ML recommended to them through DM in an open forum

[4FoW2]

Fair enough comments Harry, Bedw & the Phantom, I just get a bit suspicious when posters find things the av guy can't. I suspect with me, its not the clean or respectable, I suspect its the Money.
4FoW2

[iamking]

In Sydney for two weeks now, returning back to Brisbane at the end of this week. Returned to some old favourites, some gave closed down and others have changed ownership. Newer opened shops provide shower, table and bed in the same room.
Here $70 to $80 an hour for a massage is now standard unless you go to boiler shops. Nhj range from $50 to $70. Cbj another pine on top. B/S + bbbj $150. Some dodgier shops offer fs from 3 pines but most are at $180 to $200 in Sydney.
Brisbane prices to me are the same, difference is number of shops and MLs. For some reason shops and brothels in Sydney with male bosses seem to run tighter ships and provide consistently higher service levels between MLs.
Running out of my budgeted money, but it's been fun.

[ococpunt]

In Sydney for two weeks now, returning back to Brisbane at the end of this week. Returned to some old favourites, some gave closed down and others have changed ownership. Newer opened shops provide shower, table and bed in the same room.
Here $70 to $80 an hour for a massage is now standard unless you go to boiler shops. Nhj range from $50 to $70. Cbj another pine on top. B/S + bbbj $150. Some dodgier shops offer fs from 3 pines but most are at $180 to $200 in Sydney.
Brisbane prices to me are the same, difference is number of shops and MLs. For some reason shops and brothels in Sydney with male bosses seem to run tighter ships and provide consistently higher service levels between MLs.
Running out of my budgeted money, but it's been fun.

$50 NHJ is the way to go in Sydney coupled with occasional visits to Ginza works well for me

[darkice]

In Sydney for two weeks now, returning back to Brisbane at the end of this week. Returned to some old favourites, some gave closed down and others have changed ownership. Newer opened shops provide shower, table and bed in the same room.
Here $70 to $80 an hour for a massage is now standard unless you go to boiler shops. Nhj range from $50 to $70. Cbj another pine on top. B/S + bbbj $150. Some dodgier shops offer fs from 3 pines but most are at $180 to $200 in Sydney.
Brisbane prices to me are the same, difference is number of shops and MLs. For some reason shops and brothels in Sydney with male bosses seem to run tighter ships and provide consistently higher service levels between MLs.
Running out of my budgeted money, but it's been fun.

Maybe the male bosses go for try runs to make sure the quality is there :P

[Herpetology]

Most of us know the average prices
Experienced Punters
Just be fair and treat the girls with respect
Even revisit a popular girl you like and you will be happy what you receive
Many girls follow the average price
Do not expect fee extras
many guys want fee extras
Use your commonsense
I talk t0 my staff about customer service and communication skills often
Most of the staff all Asian comply and understand my expectations
The shop rules and well as basic duties like cleaning.
I choose the staff I want now and interview them before they start working with me as Puntes want he best service
My staff Include
Girls from the following countries
Africa
Taiwan
Thailand
China
Mongolia
South American
I am looking for Australian and European Girls
Herps

[4FoW2]

Most of us know the average prices
Experienced Punters
Just be fair and treat the girls with respect
Even revisit a popular girl you like and you will be happy what you receive
Many girls follow the average price
Do not expect fee extras
many guys want fee extras
Use your commonsense
I talk t0 my staff about customer service and communication skills often
Most of the staff all Asian comply and understand my expectations
The shop rules and well as basic duties like cleaning.
I choose the staff I want now and interview them before they start working with me as Puntes want he best service
My staff Include
Girls from the following countries
Africa
Taiwan
Thailand
China
Mongolia
South American
I am looking for Australian and European Girls
Herps

Who are your African girls?

[Herpetology]

DM me African size 8

[carlco777]

DM me African size 8

is there such a thing ? you sure it is not size 4 or size 6 ? or do you mean just their bum ?

[4FoW2]

DM me African size 8

Hey Herp sent you a PM. No reply yet.
Appreciate response.
4FoW2

[NathanA]

https://www.escortsandbabes.com.au/Profile/QLD/Bowen-Hills/Independent/BabyGirl/

[Its_Trev]

not sure what kind of "job" you doing, but $5k a day labour? you are getting yourself ripppppped off BIG TIME!!!

His lawyer is doing the electrical work.