Dying industry

[carlco777]

it appears to me that massages are a dying industry.

no new talent anywhere. all people in here are harping about is the knowns and the has-been's. nothing new.

reason i can think of :

younger generation of males cannot afford ( or will not pay for ) such services. consequently their female counterparts are not trained in such. the females who would still sell themselves do so on sugar baby websites, preferring three or four per week and still getting the same kind of money. so, i do not see new people working for massage shops. the only ones who might still pop up are the Brazilians or Hispanic types who think they have a golden pussy, and seeing them for a massage would be like going to a five-star restaurant and getting served food-court quality.

as for those who still insist that overseas students will be coming in in droves, i don't foresee them working in the massage industry. the poorer students no longer pick Australia. education fees in the UK, Germany, Canada are so much cheaper now, compared to Australia.

[Bed Wrecker]

What is it with all you glass half empty people?
Times change. Once thriving industries will wither and die and new ones replace them

Women selling their bodies will always be there in one form or another. Rejoice

[Massageloverbris]

Yep the industry is pretty shit at moment
Cut my punting right down . Rather get my karaoke ladies drink and fun than waste on massage shops

[Gavinator]

it's true ; OP has a point about people in here talking about the same girls/women. give it another 5 years and all these will be gone ; anything coming in will be inexperienced, or hopeless at their jobs and won't last longer than 3 months ....

[4FoW2]

What is it with all you glass half empty people?
Times change. Once thriving industries will wither and die and new ones replace them
Women selling their bodies will always be there in one form or another. Rejoice

agree - its not called the age old profession for nothing.
What type of "new ones replace them" do you forsee? I'm sure we'll see a change in prostitution laws in Qld over time and thus we will have a system akin with Sydney.

Also the rise of the SEA economies see better options for girls rather than desperately selling their body. I'd say if you in the 20-40 year old bracket hurry and go OS to Thai & Phil to experience whats on offer before it folds.
I have fond memories of Beach Club in 2014 just sitting and interviewing pretty 21 yo Viets who one after one would approach me wanting to /sometimes begging to go back to hotel with me for about 135AUS.
KL & BC scene now is gone. Even in Phil & Thai its getting harder and more expensive to find SYT for reasonable amounts. In Cambodia & Thailand some girls can earn an ok wage on just lady drinks, with no BF.

4FoW2

[Bed Wrecker]

agree - its not called the age old profession for nothing.
What type of "new ones replace them" do you forsee? I'm sure we'll see a change in prostitution laws in Qld over time and thus we will have a system akin with Sydney.

Also the rise of the SEA economies see better options for girls rather than desperately selling their body. I'd say if you in the 20-40 year old bracket hurry and go OS to Thai & Phil to experience whats on offer before it folds.
I have fond memories of Beach Club in 2014 just sitting and interviewing pretty 21 yo Viets who one after one would approach me wanting to /sometimes begging to go back to hotel with me for about 135AUS.
KL & BC scene now is gone. Even in Phil & Thai its getting harder and more expensive to find SYT for reasonable amounts. In Cambodia & Thailand some girls can earn an ok wage on just lady drinks, with no BF.

4FoW2

We already see the sugar daddy shit explode. Its barely spoken about on here
Online dating platforms have tons of “whores”

When you can go to some places and have 5 massage shops within walking distance, there is a clear over supply.
Legalising or whatever you call sydney makes advertising more transparent.

If people are looking for the 20-29 yo student from middle class families in asia that end up in the sex industry, some will end up in massage shops, some will private, some will sugar daddy. Whatever their peer groups are suggesting when they say they need money. Few students coming to Australia have an endless supply of cash. They dont want to ask back home. So they would rather flog their bodies

The ones over 30 and over 40 have already had a life at home, been kicked in the guts, broken hearted, some with kids and look for a way out. These are the ones we will see in massage shops. Just like now. They will have hotter younger competition in the sugar daddy game so look for the consistent bucks of a massage shop

Ever known the money classes to give up some of their power and wealth? Didnt think so. The poorer and lower middle classes of asia will look for a way out and end up in the highest paying non skilled professions. The best can earn over 200k a year tax free. Much more if they are smart and work hard.

Those looking for the cheap punt. Good news is that there are plenty of late 40/50/60 plus women to dump your load into.

[howareyoukk]

I think its regional dependent. Last month I went to Sydney and the outlook of the industry looked way better than of it in Brisbane, with competitive pricing and more inclusive service.

e.g. I got a bj+CIM for 170.

[4FoW2]

I think its regional dependent. Last month I went to Sydney and the outlook of the industry looked way better than of it in Brisbane, with competitive pricing and more inclusive service.

e.g. I got a bj+CIM for 170.

we need that high speed rail link

[howareyoukk]

we need that high speed rail link

hahah I think its not so bad to go to Sydney from brisbane by plane. its only 1 hour away right? last time I drove all the way there and spent roughy 5 days in Sydney and everyday was about eat, sleep and massage parlous./

[weaknet]

For international students, Education Fee and living cost in total in UK is absolutely much higher than Australia now.

UK>US>AUS>Singapore>Canada>Others

[Steve88]

It’s the oldest profession in the world for a reason. Always rejuvenating itself and it’s a well paid tax free profession. What other profession that requires no education gives you such high and quick earnings.

[CumShot]

Maybe what has changed is the medium for accessing the sweet young pussy. In my career I can think of my evolution through

courier-mail classifieds
then suburban newspapers ie Quest Western News or whatever
then ICQ
then yahoo messenger
then online hookup sites adultfriendfider
qld massage shops appeared
then wechat
then facebook
qld massages shop proliferate
insta ?
tiktok?
sugar dating
next...??

In the same way we are not hunting down ICQ messenger contacts now (although there is probably a pimp with some boilers on there) it's a case of moving onto the next medium.

The fun edgy girls are also moving on and finding a place where they can stand out also.

so it's not the industry is dead, the massage shops have run their course. time to find the next contact method.

[NuruGuru]

It’s the oldest profession in the world for a reason. Always rejuvenating itself and it’s a well paid tax free profession. What other profession that requires no education gives you such high and quick earnings.

that is exactly the thinking and mindset of the boilers who are working in massage shops

[NathanA]

The fun edgy girls are also moving on and finding a place where they can stand out also.

so it's not the industry is dead, the massage shops have run their course. time to find the next contact method.

they are all becoming sugar babes ... in answer to your question. those who cannot afford sugar babes get candy boilers

[funinqld]

Lol. Love that. They do sometimes have a cheap flight to Sydney and then get cheap accommodation. Brisbane was a desert with a few oasis when I moved here but now total desert.

[Kaharoa]

I think its regional dependent. Last month I went to Sydney and the outlook of the industry looked way better than of it in Brisbane, with competitive pricing and more inclusive service.

e.g. I got a bj+CIM for 170.

Yes definitely agree, Sydney has more choice much better range of ladies and pricing is way less expensive.

[No Pay]

i don't know why people like to compare Brisbane with Sydney. it is like me asking, why are you working here and not in Alice Springs ?

everyone knows the population in Sydney is greater than Brisbane. To the working girl or the massage girl, there are more paying customers in Sydney than in Brisbane. so why would they even consider coming to Brisbane ?

[4FoW2]

i don't know why people like to compare Brisbane with Sydney. it is like me asking, why are you working here and not in Alice Springs ?
everyone knows the population in Sydney is greater than Brisbane. To the working girl or the massage girl, there are more paying customers in Sydney than in Brisbane. so why would they even consider coming to Brisbane ?
Food for thought ...lets just take legal brothels as a sample
There are 21 legal brothels in qld, report say there are 223 brothels in Sydney area. If Bris pop = 2.3m and Sydney pop = 5.3.
Yes Sydney has a larger pop but choice of another 200 or so competitors would dull your income potential.
...and I would argue that many of the MS down there are pseudo brothels whereas up here the expectation is more of a handjob finish.

Maybe some ML have a daily income figure and don't want to get RSI from pulling every Tom, Harry and Dick 24/7, so they don't need high populations.

Just imagine some Wg set herself on the GC - maybe 4 clients a day, 200 a session, 4 days a week, 3 days off. Do the Math - tax free too......
Not trying to be arguementative just giving an alternative view/ proposition.

4FoW2

[No Pay]

Yes Sydney has a larger pop but choice of another 200 or so competitors would dull your income potential.
...and I would argue that many of the MS down there are pseudo brothels whereas up here the expectation is more of a handjob finish.

4FoW2

dull income potential ? maybe, but at least they can see ten customers a day. SYD has the population to support it. do we see people lining up to get into massage shops in BNE ? no.

just like the restaurants here. they sell beef noodles 18.50 a bowl. maybe if lucky, they sell 30 bowls a day. in SYD, beef noodles 14.50 but they sell 200 bowls a day. which would you rather, as a shop ?

there is no end to arguing about this point, but if you think from the WL/ML point of view, you might just see it.

[No Pay]

Maybe some ML have a daily income figure and don't want to get RSI from pulling every Tom, Harry and Dick 24/7, so they don't need high populations.

Just imagine some Wg set herself on the GC - maybe 4 clients a day, 200 a session, 4 days a week, 3 days off. Do the Math - tax free too......
Not trying to be arguementative just giving an alternative view/ proposition.

4FoW2

someone i know working in SYD. she does 150 a session. morning part of the day, she gets 4 customers. after lunch all the way to 7pm, 6 customers. after dinner, maybe one or two. total a day 11 x 150

would this be better, or 4 x 200 ? we are talking about per day here. 4 days a week and you'll see the difference.

[Falcon2005]

We already see the sugar daddy shit explode. Its barely spoken about on here
Online dating platforms have tons of “whores”.

And don't forget the rise of Onlyfans. Plenty on there thinking they can make a small fortune for doing not much. Came across a profile on Instagram - young aussie blonde spruiking how much she loves being creampied and makes out she is fucking lots of randoms. Of course you need to follow on OF, truth be told be is probably just fucking the boyfriend.

[4FoW2]

"I know this guy who said" .... No one is not saying volume would be more in Syd but I wonder how long she can keep "servicing" 11 clients a day.
Depends on the type of service and length of time, obviously.
I would question the accuracy of these figures - not from the point of view of what she told the poster - but the reality. Does everyone BS about their pay,how much they get back on tax, etc etc

As said just contuining discussion not arguement.
4FoW2

[No Pay]

a number of WL/ML in SYD carry LV handbags or GUCCI or whatever other branded handbags .... the ones in BNE carry around Woolworths green re-useable bags. i'm sure you can work it out yourself.

if you were coming from overseas to work in Australia, or for that matter, if you are an Aussie, which state would you rather work in ? SYD or BNE ?

if it is really true that working girls can get more in BNE than in SYD, wouldn't they be flocking to BNE in droves ? just like if people can get big money working in the mines, they'd be rushing there, no ?

if people just want to see things from their own perspective only, then this discussion is at a dead end.

[4FoW2]

yeah I suppose your argument is a no brainer when you consider your points.

[howareyoukk]

guys I was just trying to say that ever since my first punting trip in Sydney I now consider going there multiple times a year for not only punting but food as well.

Its like a getaway trip for me.

[NuruGuru]

a number of WL/ML in SYD carry LV handbags or GUCCI or whatever other branded handbags .... the ones in BNE carry around Woolworths green re-useable bags. i'm sure you can work it out yourself.

if you were coming from overseas to work in Australia, or for that matter, if you are an Aussie, which state would you rather work in ? SYD or BNE ?

if it is really true that working girls can get more in BNE than in SYD, wouldn't they be flocking to BNE in droves ? just like if people can get big money working in the mines, they'd be rushing there, no ?

if people just want to see things from their own perspective only, then this discussion is at a dead end.

agree with you totally

[The Professor]

Just got back from Thailand - have got designer copy handbags, you know LV, GUCCI for $50. Buy them there for $40 AUS.

Prof

[Gavinator]

Just got back from Thailand - have got designer copy handbags, you know LV, GUCCI for $50. Buy them there for $40 AUS.

Prof

yes, i've seen those there.

but how is it only SYD ML/WL carry them, but BNE ML/WL don't ? leads me to think the ones they carry are legit.

[The Professor]

but how is it only SYD ML/WL carry them, but BNE ML/WL don't ?
Leads me to think that maybe they want to portray a higher income than they really have?
But I don't really know because my conversations with ML are usually " What are your prices for extras?" rather than " Can i just check your handbag - I just need to see whether its fake or an original!"
:smile:

[cn6666]

You can get 30 mins FS in Sydney for just $90 at some brothels or even some privates. Would rate the experience 7/10

[No Pay]

You can get 30 mins FS in Sydney for just $90 at some brothels or even some privates. Would rate the experience 7/10

is that brothel busy ? or pretty empty ?