How the fuck do you RnT veterans do it? Fucking hate negotiating extras.

[Meng]

So I fucking bit the bullet and decided to go to 161 Chatswood, just so I can write a non shill AR about the place. The official AR will be incoming today (honestly can't say much about the establishment but the girls there are fucking sharks). Saw C Luna and charged me $250 for full service on top of the 130 for one hour.

Then said bj was an extra $50 and I thought that meant bbbj but no it was a condom BJ.

I'm shit with negotiating a good price. This why I realised I fucking hate going to Bing Lee, car dealerships and RnTs.

Meng gofundme page incoming.

[GoldfishMan]

Wow, that's a steep price. $250 for FS. It's usually $100 - $150.

Everyone does it differently. In my case, I do not actually do any negotiation. I either go for it or I don't, pretty binary. I've been quoted $400 by a really young and hot ML, I didn't got for it and that was it. I still managed to get my rocks off with the HJ, so I didn't really leave with blueballs. Don't look back in anger bro, lol...

[crazykyle1984]

So I fucking bit the bullet and decided to go to 161 Chatswood, just so I can write a non shill AR about the place. The official AR will be incoming today (honestly can't say much about the establishment but the girls there are fucking sharks). Saw C Luna and charged me $250 for full service on top of the 130 for one hour.

Then said bj was an extra $50 and I thought that meant bbbj but no it was a condom BJ.

I'm shit with negotiating a good price. This why I realised I fucking hate going to Bing Lee, car dealerships and RnTs.

Meng gofundme page incoming.

Looking forward to you experience/AR mate! I think we all need to setup that go fund me lol

description: fund my Punt

[11Bravo]

Saw C Luna and charged me $250 for full service on top of the 130 for one hour.

Then said bj was an extra $50 and I thought that meant bbbj but no it was a condom BJ.
First and foremost, thanks for TOFTT AND posting.

You said it was $250 for FS on top of the $130 for the "shop" fee. So $380 total? Or did the $250 include the $50 BJ fee (so $50 BJ + $200 fs)?

And yes, l've grown complacent when asked for "BJ" thinking it was BBBJ. At times, it was MY fault as I'd set a condom out ready for the FS I knew was coming. In those cases, learned to keep the condom in the pocket before moving to FS. Other times, the condom was in my pocket and still SHE pulled out a condom for the oral... Lesson to be relearned: when asked about oral, I should ask 'dom or no before I agree.

Myself, I've followed the "user guide" I found here, written several years ago (should have a sticky for it), found it still worked for me earlier this year. $70-$90 basic shop fee, depending on the shop. $50 for NHJ, upgrade to part 2.5 for another $50, upgrade to part 3 for $30-$50. If a shop is charging $130, I'll assume (but ask) that that includes a NHJ. For some shops, $100 extra covers all extras (nhj, cbj, fs). In summary, up to and including part 3, for ALL extras, $150 total max. Sounds like you got gamed with incremental charges rather than an all inclusive one, where she quoted the total price as an incremental price. And why I prefer shops that just charge for the room and straight massage, not any extras. That way, I AND she knows what she's getting for the extras.

As for bargaining, I don't. I'll lay a pineapple on the table to indicate I'm interested in extras. In some cases, she'll offer upgrades, in other cases, I'll inquire. Most common IN MY EXPERIENCE, she'll offer part 2.5 for another pineapple, and when I asked about FS, it was "up to you". I'd pay an extra $30 over and above the $100 I'd already paid for the parts 2 and 2.5. Had no trouble with attitude on return bookings (I've always said that REPEAT business COUNTS, as in steady income compared to a windfall, at least with the smart ones who want you to return).

EVERYWHERE I've punted, I learn the going rate. While I might ask her "how much", if she's OTT, I'll just say "No thank you". If that produces a request for a counter offer, fine. If not, fine. I'll do a mental assessment of IF I don't sample her, how much will I regret it? How much is her experience worth to me THAT time? One time in DXB (pull wg's from a bar), I asked a PRC "How much, LT?" She just looked at me and said, "Why are you asking me, EVERYONE knows you're Mr 500." I don't try to get A lowest price. I just know what I'm willing to pay. If she accepts, great. If not, no problem. Next...

PS: It sounds like this girl knew that most punters were shopping here for the coupon, and would return ONCE to cash it in, probably to try another girl. So why not request the ASKING price, rather than the FINAL price while the customers are eager and thinking about the next time discount? Thinking windfall rather than repeat.

[Meng]

First and foremost, thanks for TOFTT AND posting.

You said it was $250 for FS on top of the $130 for the "shop" fee. So $380 total? Or did the $250 include the $50 BJ fee (so $50 BJ + $200 fs)?

And yes, l've grown complacent when asked for "BJ" thinking it was BBBJ. At times, it was MY fault as I'd set a condom out ready for the FS I knew was coming. In those cases, learned to keep the condom in the pocket before moving to FS. Other times, the condom was in my pocket and still SHE pulled out a condom for the oral... Lesson to be relearned: when asked about oral, I should ask 'dom or no before I agree.

Myself, I've followed the "user guide" I found here, written several years ago (should have a sticky for it), found it still worked for me earlier this year. $70-$90 basic shop fee, depending on the shop. $50 for NHJ, upgrade to part 2.5 for another $50, upgrade to part 3 for $30-$50. If a shop is charging $130, I'll assume (but ask) that that includes a NHJ. For some shops, $100 extra covers all extras (nhj, cbj, fs). In summary, up to and including part 3, for ALL extras, $150 total max. Sounds like you got gamed with incremental charges rather than an all inclusive one, where she quoted the total price as an incremental price. And why I prefer shops that just charge for the room and straight massage, not any extras. That way, I AND she knows what she's getting for the extras.

As for bargaining, I don't. I'll lay a pineapple on the table to indicate I'm interested in extras. In some cases, she'll offer upgrades, in other cases, I'll inquire. Most common IN MY EXPERIENCE, she'll offer part 2.5 for another pineapple, and when I asked about FS, it was "up to you". I'd pay an extra $30 over and above the $100 I'd already paid for the parts 2 and 2.5. Had no trouble with attitude on return bookings (I've always said that REPEAT business COUNTS, as in steady income compared to a windfall, at least with the smart ones who want you to return).

EVERYWHERE I've punted, I learn the going rate. While I might ask her "how much", if she's OTT, I'll just say "No thank you". If that produces a request for a counter offer, fine. If not, fine. I'll do a mental assessment of IF I don't sample her, how much will I regret it? How much is her experience worth to me THAT time? One time in DXB (pull wg's from a bar), I asked a PRC "How much, LT?" She just looked at me and said, "Why are you asking me, EVERYONE knows you're Mr 500." I don't try to get A lowest price. I just know what I'm willing to pay. If she accepts, great. If not, no problem. Next...

Bro it was even worse. It was 250 for fs and then an extra 50 for a condom bj. So all up I spent $430.

Honestly left a bad taste in my mouth.

[gedinsyd]

I am not great with the negotiating part either, but thankfully the girls I have seen so far have charged what I consider to be fair prices, and I am sure it is exhausting for them to be dealing with hagglers. The price you mentioned at 161 sounds way too much...thanks in any case for doing the TOFTT...at least it confirms what most of us probably suspected about that place

[PKING2]

Meng just go to cbdstyle 310 all in hahahhaha
Dont even need to negotiate if you want try ml

[AHLUNGOR]

Bro it was even worse. It was 250 for fs and then an extra 50 for a condom bj. So all up I spent $430.

Honestly left a bad taste in my mouth.

Hi Brother Meng,

I felt for you man , bloody hell, what king of Full Service was that if blow job was Not included !!??

On that. I could live with if CBJ was included in the original FS rate when Bbbj wasn’t clarified from the start, but no Bj , that’s not acceptable.

Unless the girl was intended Not to serve you so she was charging all these over the top rates .

Well, just move on Bro.

Cheers

[Sibon]

You might as well go to their Artarmon or Kensington shop.

The same girl would do $70 a hour shop price + $150 FS.

Same hole different shop. :)

[ditchtheboss]

That’s one of the reasons I prefer WLs. Hate the negotiation

[GoldfishMan]

That’s one of the reasons I prefer WLs. Hate the negotiation

The flipside is, you can't negotiate out of doing FS with a WL and pay less, if it turns out that the WL was not to your liking. I've had some RNT sessions where I decided to go for the minimum extras simply because the girl didn't turn me on enough.

[trick]

So I fucking bit the bullet and decided to go to 161 Chatswood, just so I can write a non shill AR about the place. The official AR will be incoming today (honestly can't say much about the establishment but the girls there are fucking sharks). Saw C Luna and charged me $250 for full service on top of the 130 for one hour.

Then said bj was an extra $50 and I thought that meant bbbj but no it was a condom BJ.



I went there recently too, need to do AR still, saw Tifanny. Had a quick massage and then the turn over. Negotiated extras, was $100 for FS, cool, got her to lay down on the table to enjoy her delightful little body and great tits. Moving down towards her pussy, kissing around it but when got close, she stopped me and was an extra $50, I declined. I continued with what we were doing, she was getting off, she likes her tits being kissed and kissed around her pussy, she then relented and went $20, so I accepted, I think she was wanting it :)

[Meng]

Hi Brother Meng,

I felt for you man , bloody hell, what king of Full Service was that if blow job was Not included !!??

On that. I could live with if CBJ was included in the original FS rate when Bbbj wasn’t clarified from the start, but no Bj , that’s not acceptable.

Unless the girl was intended Not to serve you so she was charging all these over the top rates .

Well, just move on Bro.

Cheers

I'm fucking done with RnTs. They're just not for me.

Btw. Here's the AR for Luna.

http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?119811-Luna-one-of-the-most-expensive-punts-relative-to-service-I-ve-ever-had&p=2793475#post2793475

Had to have a proper punt today in the city. Went to Ginza club. For $290 I saw a cute petite Japanese girl with huge ass. All the DFK and bbbj I want and two shots.

Again fucking done with RnT.

[asiafever]

Dude you got scammed, no other way of putting it. $130 shop fee? How does that NOT include at least nhj? $250fs not including a cbj? Highway fucking robbery.
You don't have to negotiate, just ask price upfront and if it doesn't suit, fall back to the default position nhj $50. Some girls will try to put one over on you, usually they ask if you've Beeb before, or "first time for massage?"

Anyway mate, live and learn, that would definitely leave a bad taste in the mouth.

[11Bravo]

Bro it was even worse. It was 250 for fs and then an extra 50 for a condom bj. So all up I spent $430.

Honestly left a bad taste in my mouth.Whoa, Nellie... Damn, you not only TOFTT, you jumped on the grenade. Purple Heart for sure.

And I do feel a bit of your pain. When I first started out in Sydney, a bit unfamiliar with how things worked, so did get a lesson learned at Kingsford's Bodytone: $160 base price, which included what, I don't know, didn't ask...DUH...

http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?113364-Learning-the-basics-by-a-Newbie&p=2630780&viewfull=1#post2630780

and the next AR in the linked thread for my repeat... At least then, it was eyes open...

================

Look on the bright side: you definitely made HER day, certainly something to talk about with her co-workers :grimace: :vomit:

And it reminded ME, when visiting a shop with included extras to ask exactly what IS included, not just with the shop but ALSO with the provider. Certainly at Bodytone, when each girl came in for the introduction, I should have asked what was INCLUDED. It might break the fantasy, but, walking into the room, FIRST up, I'll ask what she includes in the price, and what the extras are and prices. Might sound a bit brusque, but BEST to have BOTH parties on the same page before things start.

To all, especially newbies: know the going rates and what you are willing to pay BEFORE you enter. The latter might be adjusted a bit when you see her, but take a DEEP breath and ask if she is really worth it, considering the TOTAL cost. That IS an INDIVIDUAL decision. Don't be blinded by the incremental well, for a little bit more, I could get....

Most of my experience, such as it is, is with RnT's. Like I said, I prefer the base price places, only room and massage. Everything else with the girl. Seems generally to be cheaper, especially given the now common quote of $150 full service when you haven't paid for the NHJ at the front desk.

/sarcasm ON
Or maybe, as a lot of (they say punters, I say shills) say, 161 Chatswood is such a punting paradise that astronomical rates are reasonable (NOT).
/sarcasm OFF

[17012430]

I don't negotiate, either fuck or walk. That report was hard to read bro sorry it happened to you.

[11Bravo]

The flipside is, you can't negotiate out of doing FS with a WL and pay less, if it turns out that the WL was not to your liking. I've had some RNT sessions where I decided to go for the minimum extras simply because the girl didn't turn me on enough.Agreed. I like to explore, try things MYSELF, and a number of times, I'll know within 2 minutes if I'm interested in anything more than the basic extra NHJ for a pineapple.


Dude you got scammed, no other way of putting it. $130 shop fee? How does that NOT include at least nhj? $250fs not including a cbj? Highway fucking robbery. You don't have to negotiate, just ask price upfront and if it doesn't suit, fall back to the default position nhj $50.I don't consider it negotiations, just a "no thank you". Given that a girl makes her money from the extras, she's likely to make a counter offer so as not to lose time and money. Just a massage is a money loser. I once had a girl tell me that the shop price for a massage WITHOUT extras was more expensive than a massage WITH extras:

http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?113364-Learning-the-basics-by-a-Newbie&p=2624546&viewfull=1#post2624546

From the above:
I roll up on my side on her return. She then mentions "extras? I'm like REALLY? I just tell her to finish the massage and I'll be leaving. She then says (make sure you're sitting down), that for a massage with no extras, it's 90. WTF? I sit BOLT UPRIGHT, smokin'. I call BS, literally, and point to the price list on the wall, that CLEARLY shows 60 minutes - 65. She says, straight face, that that's for a massage WITH extras; without, it's 90. I point to the sign next to it, the traditional "No sex services on-site" sign. Listen, I might be a newbie HERE, but I'm NOT brain dead, nor mesmerized by her, and understand that the 25 WILL be her extra for nothing.

As the AR continues, she did make a counter offer. No guarantees, and like I said, I don't consider it negotiating, Just a statement of what I'm willing to pay.

[GoldfishMan]

If you get a 50% discount, it'll make that $430 a lot easier to stomach...

[personaa]

Go for a 1 hr massage with the same girl and at the end don't pick any extras, and claim your 50 percent with a good review, the whole session will cost you 40-50 bucks and she will be shittin herself of not getting any extra money from you, this would be a revenge!

[Indiana69r]

Just ask straight up, they will never refuse unless you. Only time they refuse is if your a chat... Massage parlours get cranky if you only go for a massage. Extra service is the whole idea ..

[Indiana69r]

So I fucking bit the bullet and decided to go to 161 Chatswood, just so I can write a non shill AR about the place. The official AR will be incoming today (honestly can't say much about the establishment but the girls there are fucking sharks). Saw C Luna and charged me $250 for full service on top of the 130 for one hour.

Then said bj was an extra $50 and I thought that meant bbbj but no it was a condom BJ.

I'm shit with negotiating a good price. This why I realised I fucking hate going to Bing Lee, car dealerships and RnTs.

Meng gofundme page incoming.
She seen U coming from the day before when U though of going... Treat it like any other situation, it's a service and it's your choice but do a little sussing on the place, usually there's signs in there. I pay 70/hr plus 100 fs. Sometimes only 50/hr

[frisson]

I'm fucking done with RnTs. They're just not for me.

Btw. Here's the AR for Luna.

http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?119811-Luna-one-of-the-most-expensive-punts-relative-to-service-I-ve-ever-had&p=2793475#post2793475

Had to have a proper punt today in the city. Went to Ginza club. For $290 I saw a cute petite Japanese girl with huge ass. All the DFK and bbbj I want and two shots.

Again fucking done with RnT.

I agree. Some of these RnT shops charging $180 entry are kidding themselves

I haven't punted for a while due to economic stress
When I last punted at Rn, I offered the extra payment with pineapples on the table at the start
If ML asks for more cash then I politely take the money back and get dressed and tell the manager I am not happy. Or if it's an overpriced shop then I walk out

The problem is too many punters being gullible and pushing up prices by paying FS rates in RnT shops

[frisson]

Be careful and ask first if the lady is having a period

One time last year I showed pineapples, she said yes, took the pineapples, then half way through the punt she said she had her period so could only do basics

I stopped and asked for my pineapples back, then got dressed and left with 15-20 minutes still left. That was deception and I only got a massage so I only paid for a massage

Be polite but get dressed and leave

[11Bravo]

One time last year I showed pineapples, she said yes, took the pineapples, then half way through the punt she said she had her period so could only do basics An ML I'd seen several times, messaged her I was going to book her the next day. She replied she was on her period so FS was a no-go and if I wanted to pass, she'd understand. Told her I'd go ahead with the booking, thanking her for the heads up. Paid her my standard rate for part 2.5, she actually said it was too much and wanted to hand me back a pineapple. I told her to keep it.

Just the benefits of a regular: I had her WeChat and she appreciated the regular business.

[Funandfun]

At 200 stanmore a girl mentioned 150 for fs so I said that 50 is already charged by shop in the base price. She immediately agreed on 2 pine apples.
Sometimes it is important to use bigger head for right decision.

[Hidden Python]

The first rule of business, you are the king and you control the cash. So you must learn to say no and walk away, if she’s ugly walk away, if she is greedy and too expensive for tips walk away, The whore is just a whore and by doing this type of job just proves she is willing to do anything for money she will even drop her prices to stop the cash from walking away.
So just offer her a fair price for the service she provides. And if she can’t do that, than that’s her problem

[okachimachi]

damn that's cold

[Sibon]

At 200 stanmore a girl mentioned 150 for fs so I said that 50 is already charged by shop in the base price. She immediately agreed on 2 pine apples.
Sometimes it is important to use bigger head for right decision.

Many girls in 200 Stanmore couldn't move away from $150 FS. I just don't do it there and get $100 FS from another shop.

[Meng]

Yea I'm a fucking idiot. Should of walked. It was funny cause Monday I went to pure massage at North Sydney. Service wise it's identical. Massage and full service. The girl at pure massage did cbj and a quick fuck after the massage but they had the prices printed on the wall for each room.

I left quite happy even though I was used to diamond service because I didn't expect much from the price. Anyways I guess I gotta just get over it.

[11Bravo]

Yea I'm a fucking idiot. Should of walked.
...
Anyways I guess I gotta just get over it.Hey, it makes a good war story, and lesson re-learned about not growing complacent. I know I get complacent and careless and have to be re-educated. Just hope my tuition fees are a bit less... :surprise:

[jaquedm1307]

Anyways I guess I gotta just get over it.

All part of the learning process don't be too harsh on yourself. Couple weeks ago thought I'd got a good deal at 14B for B2B BBBJ DATY & FS but got so carried away and enjoyed the punt only to realise on the drive home there was no BJ - oh well

[priapus1966]

We have all had Meng's experience at one time or another. More than once usually. For me it tends to put me off punting for a week or three, so I excuse myself that she saved me money. Piss weak reasoning of course, but as an old timer once told me; "Fresh cunt, Fresh courage" and I move on to the next one.

[Refedust]

Most of the time if she ask if i want an extra, i just blurt out the number and they will do accordingly with the amount.

[Lostinblonde]

Haha, I visited the same girl once and I didn’t pay any extra as the girl was not my type sorry. You know when you want to go ahead or not I believe. If after you strip yourself naked and when the girl is naked and you are still not sure if you want to have sex with her or not, probably you should not.

[Meng]

Shit guys I'm second guessing myself. It might actually be Shirlee. They were rostered on the same time. I'm looking at the photos and the girl I saw looked more like Shirlee. Cause she was thin, tall and leggy and I'm looking at Luna's photo and she doesn't look thin at all.

[l337dude]

LOL sorry to say you got played bro, can't imagine she asked for that much, maybe she sensed you are a easy prey? ah well...lesson learnt :P

FYI I never negotiate, I just do my research before hand and prepare to pay the amount, or walk if the price isn't right, fuck dem MLs asking for ridiculous extras.

[RodgHerMoore]

Thank brother Meng for TOFFT. Don't give up on RNT's for good part 3's as there are great experiences to be had - esp if the girl is hot and has a decent part 1. Just remember if the price is too high, the advantage of RNT is even if you are as horny AF, if the price is too high or the girl doesn't look hot (assuming the shop declined to give you a line-up)

1. always book 30 mins for a new joint
2. up front just go for basic NHJ for a new girl
3. extend if the session is going well. They usually agree unless they're extremely popular (but this is new joint + new girl rule)
4. Upgrade later in the session if there's chemistry and you 2 are getting it on

From someone who's learnt the hard way.

I've had a run of dud punts lately and only lost $90 as I kept to these simple rules.

[Meng]

LOL sorry to say you got played bro, can't imagine she asked for that much, maybe she sensed you are a easy prey? ah well...lesson learnt :P

FYI I never negotiate, I just do my research before hand and prepare to pay the amount, or walk if the price isn't right, fuck dem MLs asking for ridiculous extras.

Yea you know what. She did at the beginning asked if I've been here before and I said it was my first time at 161. She must of picked that up and thought it was my first time. I think the person I saw was Shirlee actually not Luna (sorry Luna). Someone else confirmed it in my AR. As the girl was thin and leggy and Luna doesn't look too thin in the photos.


Thank brother Meng for TOFFT. Don't give up on RNT's for good part 3's as there are great experiences to be had - esp if the girl is hot and has a decent part 1. Just remember if the price is too high, the advantage of RNT is even if you are as horny AF, if the price is too high or the girl doesn't look hot (assuming the shop declined to give you a line-up)

1. always book 30 mins for a new joint
2. up front just go for basic NHJ for a new girl
3. extend if the session is going well. They usually agree unless they're extremely popular (but this is new joint + new girl rule)
4. Upgrade later in the session if there's chemistry and you 2 are getting it on

From someone who's learnt the hard way.

I've had a run of dud punts lately and only lost $90 as I kept to these simple rules.

Thanks bro. As a brothel goer. I love my bbbj and DFK and I know 80% of MLs don't provide it.

[l337dude]

Yea usually ML service is standard, cbj, sex etc, I've even had ones that don't do BJ just sex but that's rare, some do BBBJ for an extra pineapple, but it quickly adds up so nowadays I mostly go to FS, had a few instances recently where the ML bumped up the extra from $100 to $150, that and fucking on a massage table, I've decided to go back to mostly FS joints.

Also I never tell a ML it's my first time to a joint, lot them don't really ask but I've had one or two asked in the past and I could sense what they were after...

[HardCockInSyd]

According to their website, that $130 includes "Massage and Full Nude Happy Ending Inclusive". So yea, this dude was scammed big time! I'd only be paying $50 for FS on top of that! Maybe a bit more if the girl was a real hottie?

PS - I didn't even know there was a massage shop there now? It used to be Victoria's Secrets - full service brothel.

[11Bravo]

Thank brother Meng for TOFFT. Don't give up on RNT's for good part 3's as there are great experiences to be had - esp if the girl is hot and has a decent part 1. Just remember if the price is too high, the advantage of RNT is even if you are as horny AF, if the price is too high or the girl doesn't look hot (assuming the shop declined to give you a line-up)

1. always book 30 mins for a new joint
2. up front just go for basic NHJ for a new girl
3. extend if the session is going well. They usually agree unless they're extremely popular (but this is new joint + new girl rule)
4. Upgrade later in the session if there's chemistry and you 2 are getting it on

From someone who's learnt the hard way.

I've had a run of dud punts lately and only lost $90 as I kept to these simple rules.Myself, I always book 60 minutes. The price difference doesn't seem all the much, maybe 30. Yes, it's longer out of my life, but also hers, so given she makes her coin with the extras, and I'm occupying her for an hour, I figure there's an incentive for HER to participate.

My MO is to set a pineapple on the massage table to express my interests. With some, I know I'm not interested in anything more, but, in my search for knowledge, willing to pay to see what her birthday suit looks like, and how well her hand coordination is. With others, I'll see if she offers an upgrade; others, I'll inquire, sometimes at the beginning (if I find her particularly attractive), or at the flip.

MY experience, most will time the flip at 30/40 minutes in, the earlier if the room is warming up.

For me, I figure at the worst I'll get a descent massage (most times), and some, think the common keyword used is relaxation. Most of the time, works, and, bottom line, whatever, NOW i KNOW what HER experience is like with ME that day.


FYI I never negotiate, I just do my research before hand and prepare to pay the amount, or walk if the price isn't right, fuck dem MLs asking for ridiculous extras.Agreed, the user guide I read here, written a couple of years ago, has stood the test of time. For OTT prices, I just mark it down to "it never hurts to ask", just like I can always say "No thank you."

[11Bravo]

Yea you know what. She did at the beginning asked if I've been here before and I said it was my first time at 161. She must of picked that up and thought it was my first time.When I'm in BKK, or when I was in DXB, I enjoy playing the interrogation game:
1. Where you come from? translation: how fat is your wallet
2. How long you stay fill in the blank? translation: can I charge you the tourist price, or do I have to use the resident price

I'd always answer "oh, first time in fill in the blank", and watch her eyes go around like a slot machine. Then, as the conversation progressed, see how long it took her to catch on that perhaps it wasn't my first time... Same here with Thais... As I'm talking, I slip in a few Thai words, some expressions, and see how long it takes her to catch on I might be more familiar with Thailand...

Nothing malicious, just a bit of fun and games... Worst that's happened is a friendly punch in the shoulder.

[mrblack]

I hate girls that hassle

Usually it’s $50 for each incremental which I’m ok with

It should be a 1 min discussion.

If I see the girl is greedy I just go for minimum and never return

[frisson]

Hassle or hustle is part of business