A WL and her ability to perform after hours.

[Vincent888]

Would a WL be too tired from work sex to satisfy her partner every day like he needs?

[ReginaldBubbles]

Would a WL be too tired from work sex to satisfy her partner every day like he needs?

Yes. Give her a break son

[JohnJones]

Would a WL be too tired from work sex to satisfy her partner every day like he needs?

Some women will have so much energy after several orgasms that they'll keep going, therefore they shouldn't be tired from work sex as long as it is not a special request i.e. BDSM or PSE sex. A quickie would be enough to keep some man happy.

A WL I was a regular of, I would book her every week on the last hour of her shift. Even though she had a long day she was still able to perform as if I was her first customer of the day. Not sure where she gets her energy but I'm sure she's excited every time it's my turn to be serviced, and sometimes it feels more like I'm the one servicing her.

[Vincent888]

Yes. Give her a break son

Well then, why bother chasing a WL if you know the sex won’t be regular?

It’s like buying a car with half a million kilometres on the clock. It might look great after a detail, some makeup and a coat of polish but the motor is worn out.

It’s not going to go hard when you want it to.

Having a relationship with a WL defeats the purpose of having great sex on tap.

It must be a dreamy fantasy, “I have a WL as a GF”. A boast. After ten hour days of sucking cock she isn’t going to be wanting to suck another.

[Vincent888]

Some women will have so much energy after several orgasms that they'll keep going, therefore they shouldn't be tired from work sex as long as it is not a special request i.e. BDSM or PSE sex. A quickie would be enough to keep some man happy.

A WL I was a regular of, I would book her every week on the last hour of her shift. Even though she had a long day she was still able to perform as if I was her first customer of the day. Not sure where she gets her energy but I'm sure she's excited every time it's my turn to be serviced, and sometimes it feels more like I'm the one servicing her.

Day after day, month after month, year after year.

They cannot keep it up at work and then go home and repeat another performance.

Quite frankly I don’t think they can give a guy what he needs consistently.

I look at rosters and girls are working 8-10 hours.

Maybe 4-5 shifts per week.

There is no way they could go home and service a BF every time he wants it.

[Vincent888]

Guys often dream, myself included, of bagging a WL or a ML as a partner.

I think it’s an impossibility and that the sex would fail. Then what? You’re stuck with a woman who doesn’t give you what you want.

So you go punting…

[UrPalAl]

I had a six-month relationship with a hard-working WL who did full service Massage in ‘up market’ studio during the day and then worked into the evening in a full service shop. She still wanted it hard and long EVERY Night and most mornings… mind you she was a psychopath… the sixth of probably the most consistent thing in a relationship.

[JohnJones]

Having a relationship with a WL defeats the purpose of having great sex on tap.

It must be a dreamy fantasy, “I have a WL as a GF”. A boast. After ten hour days of sucking cock she isn’t going to be wanting to suck another.

Have to disagree with you there. Once a WL falls in love with you and decides to live with you, she'll provide mediocre or a standard that's just enough to get her customers off, and she'll go home ready to suck the balls off her man until it almost fall off.

My telltale sign whenever a WL is in a relationship is that she'll try to get you off half-arsed, and blame you for not being able to cum before the timer rings.

I might sound biased but yes, the only WL that gives exceptional service are those who see you as if you're Brad Pitt and want you to be her exclusive boy toy.

[UrPalAl]

*the sex was probably the most consistent thing in the relationship.

[Vincent888]

I had a six-month relationship with a hard-working WL who did full service Massage in ‘up market’ studio during the day and then worked into the evening in a full service shop. She still wanted it hard and long EVERY Night and most mornings… mind you she was a psychopath… the sixth of probably the most consistent thing in a relationship.

That’s a rare jewel. I’m waiting to hear why it broke up?

[Vincent888]

Have to disagree with you there. Once a WL falls in love with you and decides to live with you, she'll provide mediocre or a standard that's just enough to get her customers off, and she'll go home ready to suck the balls off her man until it almost fall off.

My telltale sign whenever a WL is in a relationship is that she'll try to get you off half-arsed, and blame you for not being able to cum before the timer rings.

I might sound biased but yes, the only WL that gives exceptional service are those who see you as if you're Brad Pitt and want you to be her exclusive boy toy.

Mediocre service gets bad reviews. Isn’t that so? I seriously doubt a WL would jeopardise her “career” for a partner.

[JohnJones]

Guys often dream, myself included, of bagging a WL or a ML as a partner.

I think it’s an impossibility and that the sex would fail. Then what? You’re stuck with a woman who doesn’t give you what you want.

So you go punting…

Well, you could see it as if it's a competition to rile up your WL/ML partner. If she doesn't perform then maybe her colleagues can teach her a lesson or two in satisfying another woman's man.

Even better if you could bring her colleague back with you as she's on her way home. Let her colleague start on you, and maybe you'll start having a threesome as she opens the room door. Women are very competitive, she'd want to show her colleague she's the better sucker. That's how you get good sex out of your WL partner.

[frisson]

This is all conjecture

A successful WL saves enough to then go on an amazing holiday, often returning to their home country.

You don't need to worry about WLs. They are very very good at compartmentalising their lives and they fit in a bf if they feel like it. They have enough breaks in their roster to do things you can only imagine
Many women find bfs a burden on their free lifestyle, bf are often very selfish
The fortunate WLs usually plan to work a limited time then get out and lead a second life

[JohnJones]

Mediocre service gets bad reviews. Isn’t that so? I seriously doubt a WL would jeopardise her “career” for a partner.

If she works in a shop she wouldn't have to care. Pretty sure only 20-30% of punters care about reviews. The rest of them will mostly do walk ins and realise they're getting a dud punt. Then again the shop receptionist will slyly apologise and not tell the next walk in customer what happened.

[ColesBag]

Once a WL falls in love with you and decides to live with you, she'll provide mediocre or a standard that's just enough to get her customers off, and she'll go home ready to suck the balls off her man until it almost fall off.

Work sex & relationship sex for a W/L are two very, very different things.

[JohnJones]

This is all conjecture
A successful WL saves enough to then go on an amazing holiday, often returning to their home country.

You don't need to worry about WLs. They are very very good at compartmentalising their lives and they fit in a bf if they feel like it. They have enough breaks in their roster to do things you can only imagine
Many women find bfs a burden on their free lifestyle, bf are often very selfish
The fortunate WLs usually plan to work a limited time then get out and lead a second life

100%

Then again there are WLs who realise that getting a decent looking BF is hard as most punters are not really good looking. When they get the chance to reel in a good looking customer or chance upon a good looking rich man outside of work, she'll be onto them to secure her future.

It's like us men - if we can have a hot wife regardless of her work, we would be happy to snatch one especially if she's easygoing.

[Vincent888]

This is all conjecture

A successful WL saves enough to then go on an amazing holiday, often returning to their home country.

You don't need to worry about WLs. They are very very good at compartmentalising their lives and they fit in a bf if they feel like it. They have enough breaks in their roster to do things you can only imagine
Many women find bfs a burden on their free lifestyle, bf are often very selfish
The fortunate WLs usually plan to work a limited time then get out and lead a second life


What I’m saying is after hours sex with a WL wouldn’t be up to par with paying them for sex at their work.

[JohnJones]

Work sex & relationship sex for a W/L are two very, very different things.

I think that's why some use the term YMMV - if you're BF/Husband material then they will perform 200%, otherwise they'll only utilise between 5% to 20% of their effort.

[Vincent888]

Well, you could see it as if it's a competition to rile up your WL/ML partner. If she doesn't perform then maybe her colleagues can teach her a lesson or two in satisfying another woman's man.

Even better if you could bring her colleague back with you as she's on her way home. Let her colleague start on you, and maybe you'll start having a threesome as she opens the room door. Women are very competitive, she'd want to show her colleague she's the better sucker. That's how you get good sex out of your WL partner.

That’s too much effort trying to flog a dead horse.

[JohnJones]

What I’m saying is after hours sex with a WL wouldn’t be up to par with paying them at their work.

If they're a nympho, there's no such things as too much sex.

I've seen news in the UK or US about a white girl who invited a stranger to her house. The stranger was a black man. She slipped something into his drink, tied him up, fed him Viagra all day and pumped his cock for 3 days. He finally found a way to escape the sex den and called the cops.

As I said before, some women can keep going. As for this girl, she went on nonstop for 3 days.

[Vincent888]

Work sex & relationship sex for a W/L are two very, very different things.

In what way? Please explain how a BBBJ is any different? Or for that matter CIP ?

Condoms?

A mental connect?

Surely a punter can get a mental connect?

The WL may not but the punter feels like he does.

That’s all that matters during paid sex isn’t it?

[Vincent888]

*the sex was probably the most consistent thing in the relationship.

And all else failed and you broke up.

Why?

[Vincent888]

If she works in a shop she wouldn't have to care. Pretty sure only 20-30% of punters care about reviews. The rest of them will mostly do walk ins and realise they're getting a dud punt. Then again the shop receptionist will slyly apologise and not tell the next walk in customer what happened.


She would have to care. Those 20-30%of punters are her client base. Management could reduce her hours and put in a more popular girl. There’s only so much room available.

[JohnJones]

In what way? Please explain how a BBBJ is any different? Or for that matter CIP ?

Condoms?

A mental connect?

Surely a punter can get a mental connect?

The WL may not but the punter feels like he does.

That’s all that matters during paid sex isn’t it?

Maybe she'll spice it up with DTBBBJ, CIMWS and some good ol' teabagging.

BBFSCIP would be a thing she'd have to give her partner if she wants to keep the relationship.

Mental connect? More like an ego-boost if we're talking about punters who don't even care about the WL's feeling and make her feel better about herself. At least a WL with a partner can get that emotional support and validation from her partner - it makes the sex even more special and emotional.

[Vincent888]

I think that's why some use the term YMMV - if you're BF/Husband material then they will perform 200%, otherwise they'll only utilise between 5% to 20% of their effort.

That’s conjecture. If you were correct then who is getting the bad end of the deal?

The punters!

[JohnJones]

She would have to care. Those 20-30%of punters are her client base. Management could reduce her hours and put in a more popular girl. There’s only so much room available.

Hmmmm... I doubt the reduced hours part. We're not talking about casual supermarket shelf stackers here. WLs don't get paid wages, her earnings are based on the number of customers she has for the day. Some shops are so big that the girls literally live in the room rather than live outside the shop. Those unpopular ones would normally be listed on the roster 12-16 hours daily to compensate on the number of punters not willing to return as her customer. That's also one way to tell if a WL is popular or not in shops.

[Vincent888]

At least a WL with a partner can get that emotional support and validation from her partner - it makes the sex even more special and emotional.

Emotional support and validation.

That sounds too much like marriage.

We are talking about a WL’s ability to perform sex after work hours with a partner. So instead she comes home and seeks emotional support and validation. That sounds like really great sex, don’t you think?

[Vincent888]

Hmmmm... I doubt the reduced hours part. We're not talking about casual supermarket shelf stackers here. WLs don't get paid wages, her earnings are based on the number of customers she has for the day. Some shops are so big that the girls literally live in the room rather than live outside the shop. Those unpopular ones would normally be listed on the roster 12-16 hours daily to compensate on the number of punters not willing to return as her customer. That's also one way to tell if a WL is popular or not in shops.

We’ve deviated away:

A WL and her ability to perform after hours.

Would a WL be too tired from work sex to satisfy her partner every day like he needs?

[JohnJones]

That’s conjecture. If you were correct then who is getting the bad end of the deal?

The punters!

Not all. Some might get a good end of the deal by grooming up a little more. They don't need to look like Brad Pitt.

There was a Japanese WL once who worked in 42G pre-COVID. She was one of those upmarket Harajuku girls who cringe upon hearing the word Akihabara. It doesn't matter who it was, she would not do DFK, nipple play and only lies on her back expecting punters to finish in less than 5 mins in that position. She was hot though.

There were many mixed reviews of her. Can't remember her name now. Management won't get rid of her despite the number of bad reviews and complaints. I guess some WLs can get away with mediocre services, so someone like her might have the energy after work to please her partner, assuming that he's the type to bust a nut in less than 1 minute.

[frisson]

What I’m saying is after hours sex with a WL wouldn’t be up to par with paying them for sex at their work.

For men who work a physical job for 8 hours a day you say the same thing

[JohnJones]

We’ve deviated away:

A WL and her ability to perform after hours.

Would a WL be too tired from work sex to satisfy her partner every day like he needs?

Subjectively, no. Generally, maybe.

In Buddhism a student would serve his teacher without fail even when the teacher mistreats him with the exception of sexual abuse, which is not tolerable amongst monks. This is to teach the student devotion.

If a WL is devoted to her partner then she will find a way to satisfy him sexually daily without fail, even if she had a long day doing threesomes at work.

If the WL is too tired, she might have to find a compromise or just stay single.

[Vincent888]

For men who work a physical job for 8 hours a day you say the same thing

I’m talking about a WL not a guy. Besides 8 hours is a tea break.

[JohnJones]

I’m talking about a WL not a guy. Besides 8 hours is a tea break.

🤣
I'd have to imagine myself as a gigolo with a horny partner at home.
If I don't cum after fucking a whole bunch of lonely housewives in their 60s then I might be able to blow a big load on my partner when I get home. After fucking shriveled abalones all day I'd like to have a young abalone to end my day.
And if she needs my load daily then I better make sure that none of my customers is a hot momma who is using me to practice her Kegels.

[Ghost2hauntU]

Would a WL be too tired from work sex to satisfy her partner every day like he needs?

I always like to think I’m her only partner. The mind is a powerful thing.

[Ghost2hauntU]

I only fuck from midnights onwards the less popular girls who live on the premises.

[Vincent888]

🤣
I'd have to imagine myself as a gigolo with a horny partner at home.
If I don't cum after fucking a whole bunch of lonely housewives in their 60s then I might be able to blow a big load on my partner when I get home. After fucking shriveled abalones all day I'd like to have a young abalone to end my day.
And if she needs my load daily then I better make sure that none of my customers is a hot momma who is using me to practice her Kegels.

The punters are not all lonely like the housewives. What makes you think that?

Sex is just sex. People have other things to do in life other than being lonely.

[Vincent888]

I always like to think I’m her only partner. The mind is a powerful thing.

Well it is a fantasy with a lil bit of physical reality thrown in? Perhaps man is to be only ever partially satisfied from sex?

Imagine if one punt was enough in your whole life? Then who would look after the women?

[Vincent888]

I only fuck from midnights onwards the less popular girls who live on the premises.

Have you ever banged one straight after the other?

[JohnJones]

The punters are not all lonely like the housewives. What makes you think that?

Sex is just sex. People have other things to do in life other than being lonely.

Like the hot momma - she's not lonely, she's just a nympho who needs to try several different cocks in her whole life.

Sex is just sex. You're right. Like this news here.

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/reports/news/a35570/man-is-raped-at-gunpoint-by-three-women-to-collect-his-semen/

[Double_Adapter]

What the fuck! It says the nigga was driven 500,000kms away...Was he driven to another planet?

[Climax598]

Have you ever banged one straight after the other?
Yes I did yesterday, I was numbers 6 after that a numbers 7 was waiting and the mamasan said is 30 minutes service. She told me I m lucky 6 and she was in the mood.

[Vincent888]

Yes I did yesterday, I was numbers 6 after that a numbers 7 was waiting and the mamasan said is 30 minutes service. She told me I m lucky 6 and she was in the mood.

Banged two girls one straight after the other was the context.

[Ghost2hauntU]

Have you ever banged one straight after the other?

Sure who hasn’t.

[Vincent888]

Sure who hasn’t.

That being the case did the second one have more “steam” than the first at the end of the first girls session?

[JohnJones]

Banged two girls one straight after the other was the context.

The only threesome I've ever had was the one where both girls gave me BBBJ, but one at a time rather than together. It's a bit of a turnoff if I have to keep changing condom each time I'm changing pussies. Pussies are pussies, best to stick in one and unload there.

[Vincent888]

The only threesome I've ever had was the one where both girls gave me BBBJ, but one at a time rather than together. It's a bit of a turnoff if I have to keep changing condom each time I'm changing pussies. Pussies are pussies, best to stick in one and unload there.

The girls I use are pros at condom swaps!

[JohnJones]

The girls I use are pros at condom swaps!

Do you line them up and hop from one to the other, hoping you don't land on the edge of the mattress and injure your dick? Would be a catastrophic event for the doctors to fix.

[Vincent888]

Do you line them up and hop from one to the other, hoping you don't land on the edge of the mattress and injure your dick? Would be a catastrophic event for the doctors to fix.

Yep one after the other doggy. It’s a pity no pics.

[Sibon]

Would a WL be too tired from work sex to satisfy her partner every day like he needs?

Don't think it's your major concern in life unless you're married to one of them. :)

Let's worry about world peace, pollution, global warming, etc. etc.

[Vincent888]

Don't think it's your major concern in life unless you're married to one of them. :)

Let's worry about world peace, pollution, global warming, etc. etc.

A potential marriage could happen one day. That’s why the thread was started. This thread’s replies could mean the difference between doing it and not doing it.

[frisson]

The girls I use are pros at condom swaps!

1000%
If your erection can cooperate, l with changing condoms, it's just part of doing a threesome

Some punters finding it challenging which is fair enough

[JohnJones]

A potential marriage could happen one day. That’s why the thread was started. This thread’s replies could mean the difference between doing it and not doing it.

Hearing this from you, I hope it happens very soon.


1000%. If your erection is good, not a big dealing changing condoms, so it's just part of the enjoying a threesome

Some punters finding it challenging which is fair enough

My erection depends on the girls. If she's not a time waster aka taking her sweet time to put the condom on, or making faces as if she doesn't want to be there then of course I will lose my erection.

Sometimes being clairvoyant sucks. If I feel the girl is there only for the money not the sex it affects my ability to get aroused.

[Double_Adapter]

1000%
If your erection can cooperate, l with changing condoms, it's just part of doing a threesome

Some punters finding it challenging which is fair enough

Condom swaps during threesomes is a blessing in disguise.....it's the equivalent of the rest time between rounds in a boxing match. Use that time wisely and to your advantage

[tpol]

Most guys don't last very long, few minutes at most and some only a few pumps. The girls tell me they spend more time massaging.

If they are emotionally attached to their bf, they'll be ready to pump him

Imagine watching shit movies all day long, then go home and get to watch what you love watching. You'll be excited.

Came as wl. Most don't enjoy fucking customers but get all excited when they are emotionally attached to their bf and they know they're going to see him

[Vincent888]

Condom swaps during threesomes is a blessing in disguise.....it's the equivalent of the rest time between rounds in a boxing match. Use that time wisely and to your advantage

Some girls are super fast at doing it. They’re like pros..

While I’m getting a condom swap I’m drinking water. Have to. Even with the AC it’s a workout.

Sometimes I have a very quick shower just to get rid of the perspiration as I’ve read Thai girls don’t like that.

We all get hot and sweaty though.

No quarter is given by anyone you see.

[Vincent888]

Most don't enjoy fucking customers but get all excited when they are emotionally attached to their bf and they know they're going to see him

Thanks for spoiling my cold leftover dinner!

It makes me almost want to get a real GF.

[Vincent888]

Most guys don't last very long, few minutes at most and some only a few pumps. The girls tell me they spend more time massaging.

Most guys but not all.

[frisson]

Condom swaps during threesomes is a blessing in disguise.....it's the equivalent of the rest time between rounds in a boxing match. Use that time wisely and to your advantage

Spoken like a professional

I see swapping condoms as a true and gentlemanly sign of respect

You have just met these beautiful ladies, they are pleasuring you, and you don't want to spread STIs to them

[frisson]

Most WL don't enjoy fucking customers but get all excited when they are emotionally attached to their bf and they know they're going to see him
That's the initial phase of a relationship. Once you are committed (married), then there is a fork in the road, the relationship has to pass through. It's never as fresh as you describe after time passes unless you have chosen your partner very wisely

[JohnJones]

That's the initial phase of a relationship. Once you are committed (married), then there is a fork in the road, the relationship has to pass through. It's never as fresh as you describe after time passes unless you have chosen your partner very wisely

Well, I'd like to think it's the girl who chooses her partner. The guy merely exists to accommodate that choice. Then again, many guys can't handle banter, and that's why a lot of them are single.

If the girl knows what sort of future she wants in the relationship then it is worth trusting her with all her decisions. The girl who doesn't know what she wants with her life should do some soul searching before even thinking about having a bf.

[Vincent888]

Spoken like a professional

I see swapping condoms as a true and gentlemanly sign of respect

You have just met these beautiful ladies, they are pleasuring you, and you don't want to spread STIs to them

I always bring a new box plus mouthwash.

They add theirs too.

Consequently we go through twelve maybe more condoms during a group session? I don’t count but it’s a lot. We have to, as so many positions and so many partner swaps between positions.

Double lots of bed linen as it gets soaked, eight towels. It’s a production, but well run by the girls.

[Vincent888]

Well, I'd like to think it's the girl who chooses her partner. The guy merely exists to accommodate that choice. Then again, many guys can't handle banter, and that's why a lot of them are single.

If the girl knows what sort of future she wants in the relationship then it is worth trusting her with all her decisions. The girl who doesn't know what she wants with her life should do some soul searching before even thinking about having a bf.

How can a girl choose the partner unless the guy is doing the chasing?

It’s extremely rare for a WL, ML or lady to make the first forward advance. The guy has to signal his intention and then it’s up to them to agree by reciprocating.

If she doesn’t agree then it’s going nowhere.

Which is what I’ve experienced recently.

A big zero.

[JohnJones]

How can a girl choose the partner unless the guy is doing the chasing?

It’s extremely rare for a WL, ML or lady to make the first forward advance. The guy has to signal his intention and then it’s up to them to agree by reciprocating.

If she doesn’t agree then it’s going nowhere.

Which is what I’ve experienced recently.

A big zero.

A woman who has chosen her man will allow him to chase her.
Those she didn't choose or were too ugly for her will find ways to make him not come back.
Some women do reciprocate on a 1 to 1 basis, some will reciprocate little by little.
And some, when the man is about to give up, will find ways to make him chase her again.

And that is why I'm always online here. Otherwise I would've logged in probably once a month instead.

[frisson]

I always bring a new box plus mouthwash.

They add theirs too.

Consequently we go through twelve maybe more condoms during a group session? I don’t count but it’s a lot. We have to, as so many positions and so many partner swaps between positions.

Double lots of bed linen as it gets soaked, eight towels. It’s a production, but well run by the girls.

I applaud your consideration of the ladies, with your condom technique

[Vincent888]

A woman who has chosen her man will allow him to chase her.
Those she didn't choose or were too ugly for her will find ways to make him not come back.
Some women do reciprocate on a 1 to 1 basis, some will reciprocate little by little.
And some, when the man is about to give up, will find ways to make him chase her again.

Well it’s all a game.

Some guys don’t need to play games or have the time to play games. Courtship is a box ticked and then it’s progress to the next stage.

[Vincent888]

I applaud your consideration of the ladies, with your condom technique

It’s their technique, they do everything.

They’re the ones to be applauded.

[JohnJones]

Well it’s all a game.

Some guys don’t need to play games or have the time to play games. Courtship is a box ticked and then it’s progress to the next stage.

Then again, seems like someone wants to play games. So I played along.

If you know so much about courtship, why take so long to make a decision? Don't you want to take it to the next stage by now?

[Vincent888]

Then again, seems like someone wants to play games. So I played along.

If you know so much about courtship, why take so long to make a decision? Don't you want to take it to the next stage by now?

I don’t like taking indecision as an answer.

So the roulette wheel spins once again and destiny selects another winner.

Sooner or later I will get an answer.

One way or another.

[JohnJones]

I don’t like taking indecision as an answer.

So the roulette wheel spins once again and destiny selects another winner.

Sooner or later I will get an answer.

One way or another.

Are you sure about that?
What if someone gets tired of waiting?
What if someone decided to stop playing the game, because all he wants is certainty and to settle down, and that the game is driving him mad?
What if he stops trusting women overall, after gaining nothing from playing the game, because all he gets is being riled up for something that wasn't his fault?
Have you ever considered that?
That you might lose your one and only chance in life to make a good change?

I'm just saying, not that it'll happen. I need some time to rephrase all that.

[ReginaldBubbles]

How can a girl choose the partner unless the guy is doing the chasing?

It’s extremely rare for a WL, ML or lady to make the first forward advance. The guy has to signal his intention and then it’s up to them to agree by reciprocating.

If she doesn’t agree then it’s going nowhere.

Which is what I’ve experienced recently.

A big zero.

I've seen a bunch of wl's outside the shops over the years and I've never initiated it and never considered initiating it since they get it all the time.

[JohnJones]

I'm just saying, not that it'll happen. I need some time to rephrase all that.

Here's my rephrase:

I am tired of waiting. Tired of being riled up. Tired of not being given an exact date of when things are going to finally happen between us. Every time I see "hints" but nothing happens, as if empty promises were made.

All I know is that you played the biggest game on me. You said you were going interstate and staying there for one year before coming back. Then now you're telling me that you're still here.

I'm not mad, I know a woman's insecurity. The need to see if the chaser is serious and willing to take good care of her, not to leave her in the future because of a simple quarrel or because she's no longer as beautiful as she used to. The need to see if that man is a good man and not a player.

Right now I am giving you my final answer:

I really want to marry you. The same way I have said back in April. I saw my chance at finally being able to be yours. When you were on holiday for one month somewhere in 2021 or 2022, I really thought you had finally retired and probably found a husband. Knowing that wasn't the case later on, I was happy, because I still have a chance to be yours.

Right now, all I am requesting is that you make that decision. Stop playing this game, change a new layout and let's play a new game that involves us being together. Your rules, as long as we're not pretending to be who we're not.

I wasn't lying about being a Ngakpa, about our past life, about my certain abilities. I also wasn't lying about my life stories, it is not to impress you or anything.

Like I said before, I am willing to beg you to make your decision. I really miss you alot. Two months is pretty long, and that's why I took all my chances to communicate with you here on this forum.

No more pretending. You have my number. Every day I'm waiting for you to finally send me a text.

But if your answer is no, I will gracefully accept and stop logging into this forum. I will try again in the next lifetime if you're not going to give me a chance in this one.

[JohnJones]

As soon as I wrote the above, the General section went quite for almost 2 hours.

I knew something was at play.

I only need an answer. I'm not going to look for another WL, ML or even a non-SW to satisfy my need for a relationship if you choose to stay quiet like this.

If you want me to wait, fine - let me know how long, tell me daily that you're okay and you won't have visa issues.

If your visa is running out soon, please don't delay. Also it's better if we start moving in together if you're serious about me. No sex, sleep separately for a whole month or more until we're officially married. I know it excites you that we hold out on sex until a certain period of time and let it all out once we're official. I'm suggesting moving in so that you don't waste money renting on your own.

You wanted to retire for good. If you move in with me, I'll make sure you're cared for even if you don't have enough money.

[JohnJones]

If you don't reply even for ten years I'm assuming you're still trying to make up your mind. Unless you reply me in one way or another (text me on my private number preferred) I'm just gonna wait for you.

Like I said, if you don't give me an answer in this lifetime I'll wait until the next lifetime.

Let's make a new playing board. Your rules. Because if we get married, it's going to be your rules anyways. Happy wife, happy life.

[JohnJones]

You hinted me couple days ago about certain accounts. What conspired in the past hour confirms it.

I will check again tomorrow, the day after and so on if you haven't texted me.

[Vincent888]

Are you sure about that?
What if someone gets tired of waiting?
What if someone decided to stop playing the game, because all he wants is certainty and to settle down, and that the game is driving him mad?
What if he stops trusting women overall, after gaining nothing from playing the game, because all he gets is being riled up for something that wasn't his fault?
Have you ever considered that?
That you might lose your one and only chance in life to make a good change?

I'm just saying, not that it'll happen. I need some time to rephrase all that.

What you are saying is what I’m experiencing.

But with a WL.

Not you.

Strange that.

[Vincent888]

I've seen a bunch of wl's outside the shops over the years and I've never initiated it and never considered initiating it since they get it all the time.

Yes no doubt they do. Maybe I’ve picked the wrong fish to try and bag. Years ago at tech I tried and tried picking up this hot blonde chick. Never succeeded. It wasn’t till we crossed paths when I saw her at a gay rally in the city that I realised why she never went further.

It’s very very frustrating.

[JohnJones]

What you are saying is what I’m experiencing.

But with a WL.

Not you.

Strange that.

People don't understand, karma is not a fancy spiritual word. Karma means actions. Every action that we perform has consequences. Some consequences don't manifest immediately, it will get pent up like a balloon until one day it explodes.

If we're not ready for pent up consequences to happen, it can feel almost traumatic. You'd spend hours, days, weeks or even months analysing the situation.

Making amends in many different ways is a good way to purify karma. Making amends changes our character from bad to good. We don't have to stay in one character our whole lives - that character is mere illusion created in our minds.

Hopefully we'll get to where we want in the near future. Just remember, a banter is healthy as long as expectations are met. Making people wait for expectations that may not come is torture. It's like the difference between an inmate in prison and an immigration detainee - prison inmates know when they're getting out but immigration detainees can be detained indefinitely without an ultimatum.

[Vincent888]

Boy George - Karma


https://youtu.be/JmcA9LIIXWw?si=uATa1bf-YOqCQ6d7