Pregnant ML or WL

[Vincent888]

If a WL or ML told you they were pregnant with your baby what would the legal consequences be? How would they know it was yours?

Considering you’ve paid for a sexual service is there a responsibility on you to do anything?

I often read that punters get refused paid sex because it’s that time of the month. Doesn’t this mean the WL or ML is not taking contraceptives?

Should a punter pay support?

This is a hypothetical but it could happen to anyone.

What would you do?

Where do punters legally stand?

I’d like to know.

[drajkhan]

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/father-ordered-to-pay-for-child-by-prostitute/news-story/ff4719342de18694cb0a2c1cdb8310c7

[GoldfishMan]

It's the same as knocking up any other woman you meet. A GF, a hookup from the pub/nightclub, a WL... It doesn't matter.

In all cases, whether or not you will have to take responsibility depends on 2 things:

1. Do you WANT to take responsibility? We're talking about your own flesh and blood here.

2. How much does the other party know about you? If you knock up a girl from an ONS, does she know enough about you to hold you accountable? Same logic applies to the WL.

All this is assuming that the baby is yours, which is another story considering the lady's line of work. Probably will need DNA testing or the old "blood in the water" test.

[Vincent888]

Your first paragraph says it’s the same thing as a GF or ONS falling pregnant.

Legally is it?

What is the responsibility of the WL or ML during a paid for sex service?

Isn’t it to not fall pregnant?

[RLC]

Your first paragraph says it’s the same thing as a GF or ONS falling pregnant.

Legally is it?

What is the responsibility of the WL or ML during a paid for sex service?

Isn’t it to not fall pregnant?

The man used the legal action to question whether the sex worker and the Federal Government's Child Support Agency had any right to chase him for money.

In an affidavit, he argued the woman's basis for seeking support was "fundamentally flawed" given her job.

But in a ruling issued this week, the magistrate said the circumstances of the conception made no difference to the child's entitlements under the Child Support Scheme.

From:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/a-prostitute-gave-birth-and-the-accidental-dads-in-court/news-story/50bd88e64a070b5c3614edd77eee92ed

[GoldfishMan]

The man used the legal action to question whether the sex worker and the Federal Government's Child Support Agency had any right to chase him for money.

In an affidavit, he argued the woman's basis for seeking support was "fundamentally flawed" given her job.

But in a ruling issued this week, the magistrate said the circumstances of the conception made no difference to the child's entitlements under the Child Support Scheme.

From:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/a-prostitute-gave-birth-and-the-accidental-dads-in-court/news-story/50bd88e64a070b5c3614edd77eee92ed
Thanks bro, I was trying to look for that.

[JSteel96]

Bro this is why I pull out early at Redfern station and don't ever blow inside a women if no dom is being used. Though years ago I had blown in some Asian gals pussies with no dom I won't take the risk anymore. My regular and me use no dom but I always blow on her or in one of the other holes. Never in her pussy. Any dude who has a WL tell him she's pregnant with his kid is totally screwed.

[CharlieM]

You should do the right thing and marry the girl

[Sibon]

If a WL or ML told you they were pregnant with your baby what would the legal consequences be? How would they know it was yours?

Considering you’ve paid for a sexual service is there a responsibility on you to do anything?

I often read that punters get refused paid sex because it’s that time of the month. Doesn’t this mean the WL or ML is not taking contraceptives?

Should a punter pay support?

This is a hypothetical but it could happen to anyone.

What would you do?

Where do punters legally stand?

I’d like to know.

To avoid being the father of a ML's father I wear double condoms all the times.

[Vincent888]

The man used the legal action to question whether the sex worker and the Federal Government's Child Support Agency had any right to chase him for money.

In an affidavit, he argued the woman's basis for seeking support was "fundamentally flawed" given her job.

But in a ruling issued this week, the magistrate said the circumstances of the conception made no difference to the child's entitlements under the Child Support Scheme.

From:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/a-prostitute-gave-birth-and-the-accidental-dads-in-court/news-story/50bd88e64a070b5c3614edd77eee92ed

Interesting result. More than ten years ago. I wonder if the law has changed? I’ve been looking but cannot find much online.

[Vincent888]

You should do the right thing and marry the girl

Luckily it’s a hypothetical question. But guys should be wary of consequences pertaining to sexual activity.

[Vincent888]

Bro this is why I pull out early at Redfern station and don't ever blow inside a women if no dom is being used. Though years ago I had blown in some Asian gals pussies with no dom I won't take the risk anymore. My regular and me use no dom but I always blow on her or in one of the other holes. Never in her pussy. Any dude who has a WL tell him she's pregnant with his kid is totally screwed.

Better to “get off” at Hornsby methinks.

[GoldfishMan]

I think the biggest problem is people tend to superimpose sex work as a profession, over the natural need of providing for a child, particularly because sex is part of making the child in the first place.

We all need to forget about the sex work part when it comes to this matter. A child is a child, it needs to be provided for. End of story.

[JSteel96]

You should do the right thing and marry the girl

Marry a WL no way I would be wanting DNA test you don't know how many other guys are banging her.

[83NNI]

Bro this is why I pull out early at Redfern station and don't ever blow inside a women if no dom is being used. Though years ago I had blown in some Asian gals pussies with no dom I won't take the risk anymore. My regular and me use no dom but I always blow on her or in one of the other holes. Never in her pussy. Any dude who has a WL tell him she's pregnant with his kid is totally screwed.

I want to make her my regular - please PM me!

[woodland]

anyone with pregnant WL fetish?

[Hidden Python]

This is a prime example of why you don’t share your private information with anyone,
This is why you don’t make any booking, so they can’t not obtain your mobile number
This is why you don’t use your real name
This is why you park a block down the road, so they can not obtain your licence plate number
This is why you always pay cash, so no card record on their books,
This is why you always use a condom, so you don’t get an STI and your not paying child support for the next 18 years

So I hope this annoying enough to get through to your thick heads, you must protect your self at all times, because there are people that are willing to lie to extort you at any cost.

[Climax598]

Make sure after blowing in Dom you unroll the Dom and take it with you so the girl can't put your Juice in her pussy.

[JSteel96]

I want to make her my regular - please PM me!

Not sharing my regular ladies details info with anyone sorry

[Vincent888]

I think the biggest problem is people tend to superimpose sex work as a profession, over the natural need of providing for a child, particularly because sex is part of making the child in the first place.

We all need to forget about the sex work part when it comes to this matter. A child is a child, it needs to be provided for. End of story.

Isn’t it the sex workers responsibility to ensure birth control? The pill or IUD etc. The condoms should be for STI prevention only don’t you think?

[Vincent888]

Marry a WL no way I would be wanting DNA test you don't know how many other guys are banging her.


The onus of proof is on who?

[Vincent888]

This is a prime example of why you don’t share your private information with anyone,
This is why you don’t make any booking, so they can’t not obtain your mobile number
This is why you don’t use your real name
This is why you park a block down the road, so they can not obtain your licence plate number
This is why you always pay cash, so no card record on their books,
This is why you always use a condom, so you don’t get an STI and your not paying child support for the next 18 years

So I hope this annoying enough to get through to your thick heads, you must protect your self at all times, because there are people that are willing to lie to extort you at any cost.

It’s hard to keep your guard up all the time.

Just being in the area with your mobile on could cause issues.

[Vincent888]

Make sure after blowing in Dom you unroll the Dom and take it with you so the girl can't put your Juice in her pussy.

Ohhh that’s nasty.

[Vincent888]

Not sharing my regular ladies details info with anyone sorry

In case she gets pregnant? Good call.

[GoldfishMan]

Isn’t it the sex workers responsibility to ensure birth control? The pill or IUD etc. The condoms should be for STI prevention only don’t you think?

Shit happened. Who should've done what, doesn't matter anymore once it happens. C'est la vie, bro...

[Vincent888]

Obviously some guys don’t own up to things. Unless it goes to court nothing happens.

[charmingninjaman]

This actually did happen to me with a popular ML that I was screwing.
I always had my doubts, since I always pulled out before cumming - but supported her financially through her pregnancy anyways, just in case it was mine. Paying all her rent, expenses etc. As I wouldn't be able to live with my conscience if I became the type of deadbeat who would abandon my own flesh and blood.

Long story short, baby was born, wasn't mine. And I later found out she was screwing multiple men and had also been taking money from numerous "white knights" aka losers who just wanted to help her because she gave them the sob story of being abandoned by her baby's man :shout: - I found out later that a couple of these guys were completely taken to the cleaners by her :haha:
One I later met in person through mutual friends - and told me he gave her over 40k over the course of a couple months and just literally got to screw her once as he met her AFTER she got pregnant so no sex :haha: and she only gave it to him once after she gave birth as he had given her a large lumpsum to pay her supposed debts - that was likely a lie too. She literally blocked him a few weeks later.

I felt a bit sorry for him as he had he's own kids and just a standard job which would likely not even pay over 100k a year after tax, and literally is one of the ugliest guys you could ever imagine (I don't mean this in a mean way, just want to give context).

Personally, I'm still a little bitter and damaged about this, feel a little stupid - but at least I feel I did what I had to do as a man.

[Vincent888]

Charmingninjaman that’s quite some story.

I think a guy should DNA test I initially and if not his then not his worry. That is unless you feel compassion then that’s another story.

What happened to the ML?

[charmingninjaman]

Charmingninjaman that’s quite some story.

I think a guy should DNA test I initially and if not his then not his worry. That is unless you feel compassion then that’s another story.

What happened to the ML?

Yeah I raised testing for DNA while she was pregnant a couple times - but like a typical gas lighter and narcissist, she would threaten to leave somewhere and never allow me to see the child. Part of me just didn't press it harder and call her bluff - as I kinda knew the only way she could make ends meet is to sell her body - and the thought and possibility that my own flesh and blood getting jabbed in the eye by another mans cock just didn't sit well with me :shout:

When I left, she seemed a mess mentally and made a name for herself in the community as a slut - inviting men over to sleep with her while the baby was right next to them. Very sad for the kid.
I was told recently by a friend that he had seen her outside with another guy and they seemed to be dating - whatever it is, I bear no ill will towards the child and wish that child the best in the future - but I'm glad it's no longer my business.

[JSteel96]

Not sure how men can sleep with a WL with a baby next to her in my view that's an all time low and something I would never do. Also if you pull out and don't cum in her there is no way the kid is yours. To pay WLS rent and expenses its just nuts if its not even proven who the kids father is. I certainly would have demanded dna to be sure either way. I wonder how many WLs have suckered men into making them think they got her pregno. Then milk the guy for all the cash. Screwing a chick once and having to fork out 40 grand for her is just stupid. Never blow in a WLs pussy I am telling you.

[GoldfishMan]

Bro, pulling out is FAR from being the most comprehensive method of contraception. The success rate fluctuates wildly depending on many factors.

[dvu420]

Make sure after blowing in Dom you unroll the Dom and take it with you so the girl can't put your Juice in her pussy.

You can do what the rapper Drake did - pour hot sauce into the condom to make sure there's no semen left. (https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/hook-ups-break-ups/drake-roasted-for-a-post-sex-act-but-everyones-ignoring-a-disturbing-detail/news-story/30ad8450627faa86ebfe23ffb1c70892)

Either way make sure you hold onto the dom after you blow, or make sure you pull out well before if you're brave enough to go bareback.

[priapus1966]

The best/worst hard luck story was from about 30 years ago in the US. An ML accused a client of being the father of her child. He denied it and pointed out that he could not be because of a Vascectomy 5 years earlier (after the birth of his second legitimate child). Case closed: Umm - Not quite. The ML made a big fuss and a court ordered DNA testing to close the issue. It proved he was the father - the vascectomy had spontaneously healed as they very rarely can. Next stage the guy sued the Surgeon and was awarded $5 million, however, the court intervened and required the money be paid to the ML for the child's up-bringing. Meanwhile another court where his wife was suing for divorce ruled that she would get their house plus financial support for their two children.

All done and dusted - not quite, because he was a decent guy albeit a total mug, he used to look after his and the ML's son occasionally. He had the child stay with him for a weekend and the ML did not appear on the Sunday to pick him up.

She had flown back to Korea the previous Friday with all the money, never to be heard from again.

[Vincent888]

It takes all kinds to make the world. Hopefully as JJ would say there’s karma.

I’m shedding a tear for him… not quite, but his banter was tolerable.

[GoldfishMan]

The best/worst hard luck story was from about 30 years ago in the US. An ML accused a client of being the father of her child. He denied it and pointed out that he could not be because of a Vascectomy 5 years earlier (after the birth of his second legitimate child). Case closed: Umm - Not quite. The ML made a big fuss and a court ordered DNA testing to close the issue. It proved he was the father - the vascectomy had spontaneously healed as they very rarely can. Next stage the guy sued the Surgeon and was awarded $5 million, however, the court intervened and required the money be paid to the ML for the child's up-bringing. Meanwhile another court where his wife was suing for divorce ruled that she would get their house plus financial support for their two children.

All done and dusted - not quite, because he was a decent guy albeit a total mug, he used to look after his and the ML's son occasionally. He had the child stay with him for a weekend and the ML did not appear on the Sunday to pick him up.

She had flown back to Korea the previous Friday with all the money, never to be heard from again.

Wow, that's mind blowingly bad. Hard done doesn't even come close.

Well, at least he still has his son with him. I hope something good comes out of it for them.

[yoshiPP]

The best/worst hard luck story was from about 30 years ago in the US. An ML accused a client of being the father of her child. He denied it and pointed out that he could not be because of a Vascectomy 5 years earlier (after the birth of his second legitimate child). Case closed: Umm - Not quite. The ML made a big fuss and a court ordered DNA testing to close the issue. It proved he was the father - the vascectomy had spontaneously healed as they very rarely can. Next stage the guy sued the Surgeon and was awarded $5 million, however, the court intervened and required the money be paid to the ML for the child's up-bringing. Meanwhile another court where his wife was suing for divorce ruled that she would get their house plus financial support for their two children.

All done and dusted - not quite, because he was a decent guy albeit a total mug, he used to look after his and the ML's son occasionally. He had the child stay with him for a weekend and the ML did not appear on the Sunday to pick him up.

She had flown back to Korea the previous Friday with all the money, never to be heard from again.

Wow that is fucked.

[Vincent888]

Well it’s a case of punters beware I suppose.

Most guys I’m sure would be kind and caring even if no DNA test was allowed.

[andrewv]

Paying for sex does NOT remove the paternal (father's) responsibility to look after the welfare of a child.
Paying for sex does NOT make the woman (working lady/massage lady/escort/sugarbaby) solely responsible for the financial care of a child.

[Vincent888]

Paying for sex does NOT remove the paternal (father's) responsibility to look after the welfare of a child.
Paying for sex does NOT make the woman (working lady/massage lady/escort/sugarbaby) solely responsible for the financial care of a child.

What is the responsibility of the sex worker?

To promote safe sex and not fall pregnant?

[frisson]

This is a prime example of why you don’t share your private information with anyone,
This is why you don’t make any booking, so they can’t not obtain your mobile number
This is why you don’t use your real name
This is why you park a block down the road, so they can not obtain your licence plate number
This is why you always pay cash, so no card record on their books,
This is why you always use a condom, so you don’t get an STI and your not paying child support for the next 18 years

So I hope this annoying enough to get through to your thick heads, you must protect your self at all times, because there are people that are willing to lie to extort you at any cost.
1000%. Your identity must be kept sacrosanct, for many there is a lot to lose

Imagine the married man in the Daily Telegraph story having to tell his wife and family he is going to court and the reason

Tell me what is stopping a regular ML, so you have a connection, and who has your mobile number, from getting your used condom contents and using it to get pregnant

[Vincent888]

Tell me what is stopping a regular ML, so you have a connection, and who has your mobile number, from getting your used condom contents and using it to get pregnant


Even worse, the gubmint using your semen for some sort of half alien half human hybrid creature. Who upon completion of its growth cycle comes looking for its daddy like a Frankenstein monster!