Would you buy a share in a RnT massage business?

[andrewv]

If given the opportunity, would you buy a share in a RnT massage business. Say a minimum $10,000 per share? In return you’d get VIP access to booking your favourite girls and a 20% discount on the basic room fee (not on extras which are earned 100% by the girls).

The business would be fully managed so as a shareholder you’d not be required to have any involvement.

[Nautilus]

Message originally posted by Nautilus on 13-02-2024 at 08:55 PM

[BearOrigin]

It depends on location and willingness of other shareholders to promote the business. The shareholder VIP rates is not a good idea, it creates a problem where the shareholder might have an interest in a certain ML and book her out all to himself, and if she's a reasonably popular girl ordinary punters will be deterred because they have to choose a less popular girl.

I've spoken with few WGs in the past and they're usually not comfortable having one of their bosses become their client. I think some establishments have rules of not being intimate with your own co-workers and if you really want to punt then go punt at another shop. Also I reckon RnT's are suitable for female bosses, they run the shop better than male bosses and industry girls are much more comfortable working with female bosses.

If my own partner decides to buy and run an RnT shop then I would support her but I won't step foot into the establishment. I'll do the delivery of oils, tissue boxes and towels and probably help with minor handyman works outside operating hours but not become a receptionist during daytime.

[DDT]

to mix fucking and work.

[andrewv]

It depends on location and willingness of other shareholders to promote the business. The shareholder VIP rates is not a good idea, it creates a problem where the shareholder might have an interest in a certain ML and book her out all to himself, and if she's a reasonably popular girl ordinary punters will be deterred because they have to choose a less popular girl.

I've spoken with few WGs in the past and they're usually not comfortable having one of their bosses become their client. I think some establishments have rules of not being intimate with your own co-workers and if you really want to punt then go punt at another shop. Also I reckon RnT's are suitable for female bosses, they run the shop better than male bosses and industry girls are much more comfortable working with female bosses.

If my own partner decides to buy and run an RnT shop then I would support her but I won't step foot into the establishment. I'll do the delivery of oils, tissue boxes and towels and probably help with minor handyman works outside operating hours but not become a receptionist during daytime.

I agree a working boss/manager should never also play with the staff. But as a silent shareholder, the man has no "bossing" ability.

[andrewv]

Forgetting about any self-punting what’s the return on the investment?

ROI of about 12% p.a., Much better than a cash management account or even most shares on the ASX.

[Nelly69]

ROI of about 12% p.a., Much better than a cash management account or even most shares on the ASX.

as a business owner, why would you eat your own products? sounds more like a membership with perks.

[Nautilus]

Message originally posted by Nautilus on 13-02-2024 at 08:55 PM

[CarpetJam]

I agree a working boss/manager should never also play with the staff. But as a silent shareholder, the man has no "bossing" ability.

Reasonable opinion for a cute guy

[BearOrigin]

as a business owner, why would you eat your own products? sounds more like a membership with perks.

That's what I was trying to point out. A punter being a shareholder of a brothel or RnT will abuse the business that is supposed to make an income. He will think that he's one of the "bosses" and abuse his position by booking out the most popular WG and telling her he's the boss, therefore she has to do what he wants. It's a really bad idea, like owning a small part of a whiskey distillery while you're an alcoholic.

Business and pleasure don't mix, hence it's good to pitch the idea to future mamasans.

[triedforonce]

Don't mind to invest, but preferably pay full amount and not known as one of shareholders, perks maybe if i can get early access to book or try new stocks... Lol

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[gamer2]

Need to know more details, but to be honest I wouldnt say no immediately

[Sibon]

If given the opportunity, would you buy a share in a RnT massage business. Say a minimum $10,000 per share? In return you’d get VIP access to booking your favourite girls and a 20% discount on the basic room fee (not on extras which are earned 100% by the girls).

The business would be fully managed so as a shareholder you’d not be required to have any involvement.

They would be more interested in an active partner than a sleeping partner.

The owners have been working 7 days a week for donkey years are sick of it.

An owner of a small shop in Burwood has decided to retire and let the full running of the shop to a trusted ML. I don't know under what conditions. I have been going there a bit more often to support her. A lovely girl always smiling, cheerful and friendly. Now it's her turn to work 7 days a week.

[andrewv]

Unfortunately, almost every small business requires its owner to work much more than if the had a management job working for someone else.
There are very few “gold mines” in owning a small business.

[Nautilus]

Message originally posted by Nautilus on 13-02-2024 at 08:55 PM

[Nelly69]

its gotta be a business decision not a dick decision. haha

[Nautilus]

Message originally posted by Nautilus on 13-02-2024 at 08:55 PM

[dotcumdotinyou]

I'd need more information, as stated above who would run it, who would be responsible for the outgoings, in the case of a R&T who would be legally responsible if it was caught out giving sexual services, in all cases who would be criminally responsible if a minor was to be found working on site or drugs were being sold from the site, who would liaise with the triads.

I'm sure I could think of more but that's just my quick assessment of the risks.

[andrewv]

To flip the question over, what would your dream RnT shop be like, when compared to all the ones you’ve been too this far? What are the 2 or 3 issues you miss. Is it lack of quality showers in every room, more privacy, real photos of actual girls, good booking systems, ….. ???

[BearOrigin]

You become a slave to the machine. Again it depends on revenue and whether you can have management sit there instead of yourselves.

If you're taking over an already existing business then it's possible to have the existing managers on payroll to continue their roles, otherwise you might have to run the business by yourself 7 days a week until you make enough to start hiring managers.

There's many issues to deal being a mamasan/papasan - technically you're a hotel manager and the WGs are short term contractors that can quit on a whim. Your job is to make sure the facility is safe and functioning, so I'd say that you have to look after the property maintenance and towel laundering as well as customer feedback.

As the owner you'd want to make sure your ROI is met within a reasonable time frame. If 12% return is what you're aiming for in 12 months time then anything less means that the management team you're either hiring or running by yourself is ineffective and that can lead into desperation - the business using bait & switch tactics, paying for fake reviews online and being stingy when it comes to operating costs (making girls use less towels/tissues, less shower time and making them perform no oil massage).

[BearOrigin]

To flip the question over, what would your dream RnT shop be like, when compared to all the ones you’ve been too this far? What are the 2 or 3 issues you miss. Is it lack of quality showers in every room, more privacy, real photos of actual girls, good booking systems, ….. ???

The usual problems with showers in many RnT/brothels - broken shower heads, mouldy grout, scummy shower screens and lack of anti-slip mats. Shops should have a handyman that comes over after shop operating hours to assess water supply issues, broken beds/tables and lighting or AC issues, and proper professional cleaners to clean before opening time. Without skilled handymans and cleaners most shops look like a cheap motel. I've actually seen a brothel infested with cockroaches once lol

Actual photos of girls with faces & tattoos/birthmarks edited out is helpful but no beautifying/slimming Adobe effects. Doesn't matter if a girl is size 10, if punters like big girls and her work contributes to profits then it's better to use her actual photo than bait customers into thinking they're getting a slim girl.

Computerized booking systems should be the way to go these days. Some shops are still relying on daily hand drawn ledger books which is inefficient. You can use an iPad with an app that shows the columns for the girls with all their bookings for the day - each timeslots booked will have the customer's number or WeChat ID. To make it even more professional, if the customer booked a day or several hours in advanced you can make the effort to send out booking reminders an hour before.

If you're talking privacy in terms of waiting rooms this is a great bonus to have. If the venue have limited rooms then I suggest getting one of those foldable partitioning things that customers can sit behind until a room and the girl is ready.

Additional stuff I think would make an RnT look great - USB powered digital clocks (can get cheaply in Kmart, Temu, AliExpress etc) in every room so that customers know they aren't cheated of their time. And instead of relying on dimmable ceiling lights that doesn't work 90% of the time, just get a dimmable stand light from Kmart/IKEA.

Many RnT's like installing ceiling speakers that loops the same music from a single playlist, I don't think this is necessary as it is a waste of money. If the girls want to set the mood then they should bring their own BT speakers and play whatever songs they want to cover the loud FOAM lol

And probably look at investing in allergy-free massage oils. One ML in the past used body lotion as massage oil because she's allergic to shop oil and the shop doesn't have showers, I actually liked the feeling of being massaged with lotion instead as I can go about my day without having to quickly go home and shower.

[Nautilus]

Message originally posted by Nautilus on 13-02-2024 at 08:55 PM

[BearOrigin]

Cash cows make money only when someone is managing it right. If they're not properly managed the business can go downhill.

The two table massage shop valued at $100K isn't unique to the massage industry. There are other legitimate businesses dealing with industrial manufacturing that overvalued their actual worth and some dope bought in believing he can make high margins the first 12 months. One business I worked in selling industrial cleaning equipment, the previous owner sold to the new owner for $4mil but the actual business is actually only worth $1mil. He struggled to make a profit and I left because I was the lowest paid "professional" there.

The defunct one on the "wrong side" of the station, any real reasons why it didn't make it with previous owner? I find that many RnT's make better money the more discreet they are unless it's in a dangerous area riddled by druggies. Hornsby142 as an example - it may not be as big as Ginza or N5M/42G but back in 2014-2018 I remember the place being really popular amongst locals in the north shore, so does Roseville Rose. Both are far from train stations, you need to walk at least 15 mins away. They were popular because of the quality of girls - it's a mix of young girls in their 20s up to MILFs in their early 50s but all had really great slim body. Never seen a chubby girl at all in the lineup. But these days the quality went downhill because of drug issues, especially in Hornsby, hence the reason why only old, chubby GILFs work there.

Like I said, the girls are short term contractors that can quit on a whim, so it's up to shops to make the girls happy by promoting them online. Running a business requires experience, if you're new in the business and don't know what to expect then it's better to keep your money and invest in gold bullions instead.

[woodland]

Some rules if I was opening a massage business

1. advertise well - social media: Instagram, Telegram, WeChat, Line, Kakao, as well as traditional media such as escorts and babes, and locanto
2. have clean showers
3. a receptionist that can use microsoft Excel to keep track of bookings
4. do a bit of basic statistics (market intelligence) on which type of guys go after which type of girls. keep track of customer preferences. Excel is enough for this.
5. reward and retain the high performing girls whilst fire the bottom 10% or put them on a performance plan
6. have a website that is updated with roster information
7. give girls an referral bonus if they bring in new girls
8. quarterly off-site for the girls - dinner & karaoke

[andrewv]

The usual problems with showers in many RnT/brothels - broken shower heads, mouldy grout, scummy shower screens and lack of anti-slip mats. Shops should have a handyman that comes over after shop operating hours to assess water supply issues, broken beds/tables and lighting or AC issues, and proper professional cleaners to clean before opening time. Without skilled handymans and cleaners most shops look like a cheap motel. I've actually seen a brothel infested with cockroaches once lol

Actual photos of girls with faces & tattoos/birthmarks edited out is helpful but no beautifying/slimming Adobe effects. Doesn't matter if a girl is size 10, if punters like big girls and her work contributes to profits then it's better to use her actual photo than bait customers into thinking they're getting a slim girl.

Computerized booking systems should be the way to go these days. Some shops are still relying on daily hand drawn ledger books which is inefficient. You can use an iPad with an app that shows the columns for the girls with all their bookings for the day - each timeslots booked will have the customer's number or WeChat ID. To make it even more professional, if the customer booked a day or several hours in advanced you can make the effort to send out booking reminders an hour before.

If you're talking privacy in terms of waiting rooms this is a great bonus to have. If the venue have limited rooms then I suggest getting one of those foldable partitioning things that customers can sit behind until a room and the girl is ready.

Additional stuff I think would make an RnT look great - USB powered digital clocks (can get cheaply in Kmart, Temu, AliExpress etc) in every room so that customers know they aren't cheated of their time. And instead of relying on dimmable ceiling lights that doesn't work 90% of the time, just get a dimmable stand light from Kmart/IKEA.

Many RnT's like installing ceiling speakers that loops the same music from a single playlist, I don't think this is necessary as it is a waste of money. If the girls want to set the mood then they should bring their own BT speakers and play whatever songs they want to cover the loud FOAM lol

And probably look at investing in allergy-free massage oils. One ML in the past used body lotion as massage oil because she's allergic to shop oil and the shop doesn't have showers, I actually liked the feeling of being massaged with lotion instead as I can go about my day without having to quickly go home and shower.

I agree with your comments. Back in the 1990s and early 2000s Upmarket Bathhouse in Crows Nest ticked most of the boxes. It had large rooms, each with a shower and spa. Each room had a shelf with lots of fresh and clean white towels. Much earlier (early 1990s) each room had a ghetto blaster and the girls brought their own music to the room. And the best feature was they had 2 or 3 waiting rooms so customers never met each other when moving around (arriving and leaving). The punters were taken to a waiting room and then the girls came and introduced themselves.

I don't go there anymore because the price list became far too high, and in the last 10 odd years, it became more of a FS than RnT shop. The business is focused on non-Asian girls.

[andrewv]

Some rules if I was opening a massage business

1. advertise well - social media: Instagram, Telegram, WeChat, Line, Kakao, as well as traditional media such as escorts and babes, and locanto
2. have clean showers
3. a receptionist that can use microsoft Excel to keep track of bookings
4. do a bit of basic statistics (market intelligence) on which type of guys go after which type of girls. keep track of customer preferences. Excel is enough for this.
5. reward and retain the high performing girls whilst fire the bottom 10% or put them on a performance plan
6. have a website that is updated with roster information
7. give girls an referral bonus if they bring in new girls
8. quarterly off-site for the girls - dinner & karaoke

Yes... good ideas. Thanks.

[andrewv]

One issue that was highlighted to me offline is the good old "security fee".

Let's say that certain men group together and ride motorcycles, go to businesses like cafes in Burwood [actual story], and "offer" their security services. The owners get two choices: to either say "yes" or have an accidental fire on the premises, if you get my drift.

So there is an expense item that is not usually talked about when running businesses like this.

P.S. Not only men who ride motorcycles but sometimes men who wear uniforms during their day jobs.

[BearOrigin]

Some rules if I was opening a massage business

As someone pointed out, this forum is a place where shops are already advertising and putting out daily rosters. Most local punters would've known about AUS99 even if they're just lurkers without signing up for an account. As long as people post ARs that doesn't sound like a hyped up load of BS and manages reader's expectations (leave out the part3/BBFS unless the shop ad specifically says she provides it to all) I reckon business will boom.

Clean showers and a working shower heads that doesn't spray on a 360° angle is important. Bunnings have an abundant supply of cheap shower heads that anyone can fit by following simple instructions, no plumber required. Choosing the cleaning company who can clean the showers properly is also important, if the cleaner doesn't scrub off soap scums and grout mould properly they should be replaced with another cleaning company. And they should also check and clean the AC filters.

Giving the highest performing girl an incentive or bonus reward is important. It doesn't make her feel like she's a number there. And taking the girls out on an all expenses paid trip is also good for team building, they can relieve their stresses from having to service difficult customers all day and worrying about extending their student visas.

I guess the most important thing is the integration of technology in the booking system. Excel is good but sometimes tedious for people to learn, I'm pretty sure there's free apps for booking management on the App store. And if there's a double booking mistake, offer discounts as an apology. Simply saying "do you want to try another girl?" without offering discounts is really rude, it's as if customers are being treated as a number.

[BearOrigin]

One issue that was highlighted to me offline is the good old "security fee".

If you're operating in their turf I'd say you're not the only one they're targeting in the area. I'd avoid opening shop in the West.

Crooks in uniform should be reported. There's agencies that can deal with such crooks. Make sure your shop has functioning CCTV that actually records people's faces clearly. And as per fire safety regulations, always make sure there's an alternative exit in the building like a backdoor. And get a business insurance that covers accidental fires.

[BearOrigin]

For some reason this thread brings out the handyman within me.

Room divider for privacy (https://www.bunnings.com.au/artiss-4-panel-room-divider-screen-163x170cm-woven-white_p0255979?gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2NKn_JSohAMVBMVMAh1TwgBREAQYBSAB EgJYcPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)

Shower head (https://www.bunnings.com.au/estilo-chrome-3-function-hand-shower-connector-set_p5002610?store=7132&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2p6AxJWohAMVzdsWBR1stQLKEAQYASAB EgJYbfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)

Digital clock (https://www.bigw.com.au/product/colorful-digital-alarm-clock-voice-control-colorful-font-night-mode-table-clock/p/9900019250)

Dimmable corner lamp (https://www.kmart.com.au/product/usb-powered-rgb-pixel-corner-led-light-with-remote-control-43243761/?sku=43243761&&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8PvL7JaohAMVLW4PAh0PCQC9EBwYBSAB EgIhZvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)

Most of them are inexpensive. It doesn't have to be upmarket with items from Bed, Bath & Beyond, just something enough to set the mood in the room rather than plain, boring setups that look like an illegal sex den in Southeast Asia with concrete floors and cum-stained futon style mattress on the floor lol

[Nautilus]

Message originally posted by Nautilus on 13-02-2024 at 08:55 PM

[BearOrigin]

You forgot about the ioniser/air purifier to remove the stale cigarette smoke.

Most RnT's don't allow smoking inside anyways. I know it's very common in brothels. Air purifiers only filters the air, cigarette smoke stench gets stuck on walls and fabrics such as mattresses and curtains which doesn't get picked up by air purifiers.

I don't trust those small ionizers in the market. The most effective way of getting rid of cigarette stench is an ozone generator but you have to evacuate the room.

[woodland]

the cigarette smoke is part of the charm

[Nelly69]

they should do the fishbowl soapy massage place like thailand! haha

[Nautilus]

Message originally posted by Nautilus on 13-02-2024 at 08:55 PM

[BearOrigin]

Three shops, one in Burwood and one not far from Tempe. Both had smoke. Plus a third now that I think about it, won’t say where as it’s a stand alone and never wrote a review about that place either. Those three shops no reviews.

They were all on the bottom end of the scale price wise. If anything they motivated me to spend more.

Perhaps they were also on the bottom end of the scale when it comes to MLs? Like you get the village landlady in Stephen Chow's "Kungfu Hustle" as an ML, with a lit cigarette on her lips while she does part 1 + 2.

[Nautilus]

Perhaps they were also on the bottom end of the scale when it comes to MLs? Like you get the village landlady in Stephen Chow's "Kungfu Hustle" as an ML, with a lit cigarette on her lips while she does part 1 + 2.

Message originally posted by Nautilus on 13-02-2024 at 08:55 PM


https://youtu.be/hxHefMFmvc8?si=zliR2LuFpefQ4_k5

[BearOrigin]

Yeah, that permed hair really turns many punters on.

[T1ooo]

dont get high of your own supply

[Sibon]

If given the opportunity, would you buy a share in a RnT massage business. Say a minimum $10,000 per share? In return you’d get VIP access to booking your favourite girls and a 20% discount on the basic room fee (not on extras which are earned 100% by the girls).

The business would be fully managed so as a shareholder you’d not be required to have any involvement.

Proceeds from vice and gambling won't add to your karma if you're a holy and religious type. :) :)

[BearOrigin]

Proceeds from vice and gambling won't add to your karma if you're a holy and religious type. :) :)

Yes Cardinal Pell. You'll go to heaven after molesting those kids and being acquitted of your crimes.

[ynotm8]

It depends on location and willingness of other shareholders to promote the business. The shareholder VIP rates is not a good idea, it creates a problem where the shareholder might have an interest in a certain ML and book her out all to himself, and if she's a reasonably popular girl ordinary punters will be deterred because they have to choose a less popular girl.

I've spoken with few WGs in the past and they're usually not comfortable having one of their bosses become their client. I think some establishments have rules of not being intimate with your own co-workers and if you really want to punt then go punt at another shop. Also I reckon RnT's are suitable for female bosses, they run the shop better than male bosses and industry girls are much more comfortable working with female bosses.

If my own partner decides to buy and run an RnT shop then I would support her but I won't step foot into the establishment. I'll do the delivery of oils, tissue boxes and towels and probably help with minor handyman works outside operating hours but not become a receptionist during daytime.

you know what they say you don't dip into your own supply

[Soton]

Checked out now

[Nautilus]

Then it comes down to Math.
How many rooms do you have
How many ladies per shift
Rent
Receptionist wage/commission.
Cleaning/supplies etc.
Security.

Anyone care to put some numbers in?

[BearOrigin]

The main caveat being the owner or 50/50 partner would have to be female and Thai, Japanese or Chinese.
Biggest issue is the MLs. I will not go in to details but you need people working for you that you can rely upon and many of the plethora of ladies around are not particularly reliable.
There are quite a few good receptionists and owners out there that you can learn little bits from. Even the batshit crazy ones (no names) have some good qualities.

Location is important...parking and railway line are big plusses.

Then it comes down to Math.
How many rooms do you have
How many ladies per shift
Rent
Receptionist wage/commission.
Cleaning/supplies etc.
Security

With the right manager it can be a very good business for you and despite the comments not have to work 7 days and not every week.

Being licensed is also a biggie.

It's probably better to have your own Asian gf/wife and her friend to be business partners. Having licence is also good, the only thing you need to worry about is whether the ML has valid working rights or not. If they're overstayers then it's a big headache when the cops decide to do a welfare check on all staff.

Many massage shops don't have bouncers guarding the shop but it's good to find a location where certain gangs wouldn't come to cause trouble and the local police station is quick to respond to violent attacks.

[BearOrigin]

Anyone care to put some numbers in?

My tips for being a good business partner:

Don't retaliate the very moment a business partner does something that irritates you. Be kind, but inform them that you don't like being mistreated or misunderstood. Constant communication is key - your business partner can't read your mind or read the room all the time, everyone has their priorities in life. If there's a goal to be achieved your business partner needs to know of those goals. No subtle hints, just say it out. A business partner can be a friend if they're kind hearted but don't push their kindness too far. If you have built good business relationship with each other for a long time, things will work out and everyone will be happy with their team effort.

[ColesBag]

If given the opportunity, would you buy a share in a RnT massage business. Say a minimum $10,000 per share? In return you’d get VIP access to booking your favourite girls and a 20% discount on the basic room fee (not on extras which are earned 100% by the girls).

The business would be fully managed so as a shareholder you’d not be required to have any involvement.

Getting your dick wet isn't really a motivation for an ongoing investment & anyone who considers it to be so isn't the kind of business partner that you would want.

This is business. Don't dangle shiny trinkets because serious investors aren't impressed & would consider you to be someone they wouldn't want to go into business with.

[pupha69]

Are there really triads/gangs running these joints that need to be spoken to?

[Sydozzie]

Are there really triads/gangs running these joints that need to be spoken to?

I'd like to know this as well. Old asian shop owners are linked with triads? I mean it's not IMpossible..

[andrewv]

I'd like to know this as well. Old asian shop owners are linked with triads? I mean it's not IMpossible..

I can assure you that organised crime is in everything they can get into. Not only illegal substances.
I don’t want to spoil the party when I say that AFP estimates that 50% of the girls working in places we go to are misled into having to do these jobs.

They’re not all nice Japanese (or other nationalities) studying English in Australia and need to make cash to pay bills.

[BDU]

Bit of a doomsayer attitude there.
Sure many girls are duped..it is nowhere near the way it was back in the 90's though. More coercion rather than duping and highly doubt it is 50%.

Less than 2% of MLs I know have not known exactly what they are doing and why. Sure 50% or more regret it but they went in eyes wide open.

[Double_Adapter]

I can assure you that organised crime is in everything they can get into. Not only illegal substances.
I don’t want to spoil the party when I say that AFP estimates that 50% of the girls working in places we go to are misled into having to do these jobs.

They’re not all nice Japanese (or other nationalities) studying English in Australia and need to make cash to pay bills.

+1

You needn't look far to find organised crime and corruption, it's all around us; from the Australian Labor/Liberal parties, the big 4 banks, the Catholic Church, the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs, FIFA, IOC, WHO, United Nations, US, Hollywood, North Korea et al. It's fucken rampant.

Here's a link to a report which only focuses on the obvious and crime washing the less obvious
https://www.acic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-08/oca_2017_230817_1830.pdf

[BearOrigin]

I'd like to know this as well. Old asian shop owners are linked with triads? I mean it's not IMpossible..

With all these underworld business going on it's good to heed the AFP's warnings on money mules.

https://www.afp.gov.au/news-centre/media-release/australian-police-warn-university-students-about-money-muling-dontbeamule

[Sammael]

+1

You needn't look far to find organised crime and corruption, it's all around us…It's fucken rampant.

You’ve left out a few other bad boys. But hey, don’t give out too much intel…You never know who reads this forum.

[ColesBag]

+1

You needn't look far to find organised crime and corruption, it's all around us; from the Australian Labor/Liberal parties, the big 4 banks, the Catholic Church, the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs, FIFA, IOC, WHO, United Nations, US, Hollywood, North Korea et al. It's fucken rampant.

Here's a link to a report which only focuses on the obvious and crime washing the less obvious
https://www.acic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-08/oca_2017_230817_1830.pdf

Money answereth all things.

[Seafood]

Absolutely not, as industry is mostly cash business you will be robbed blind unless u know what you are doing, and investing to get some advantage in accessing sex is a pretty poor reason to invest so much

[Jackk]

Absolutely not, as industry is mostly cash business you will be robbed blind unless u know what you are doing, and investing to get some advantage in accessing sex is a pretty poor reason to invest so much
This is so true

[andrewv]

+1

You needn't look far to find organised crime and corruption, it's all around us; from the Australian Labor/Liberal parties, the big 4 banks, the Catholic Church, the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs, FIFA, IOC, WHO, United Nations, US, Hollywood, North Korea et al. It's fucken rampant.

Here's a link to a report which only focuses on the obvious and crime washing the less obvious
https://www.acic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-08/oca_2017_230817_1830.pdf

However, none of these agencies you listed collect protection $$$ from brothel owners. None of Australian Labor/Liberal parties, the big 4 banks, the Catholic Church, the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs, FIFA, IOC, WHO, United Nations, US, Hollywood, North Korea et al.

[L_Kun]

Anyone know how the recruitment process looks? Do you get to screen them with a 'trial run' before hiring them?

[Asiandaddy]

Anyone know how the recruitment process looks? Do you get to screen them with a 'trial run' before hiring them?

LoL are you just after a free root?? And then decide to not give them a job.

Each business has their own processes like any other business dude. There no hard and fast rule.

[andrewv]

Anyone know how the recruitment process looks? Do you get to screen them with a 'trial run' before hiring them?

The girls do not give freebies to shop owners and don’t do it during recruitment either.

They talk to the owner or manager, who are often female. They try one or two shifts to see if they are getting enough business.

Shop owners on the main see their business as sex hotels renting out rooms by the hour. There is nothing sexual about it in their business thinking. Only how much they will net every day.

[L_Kun]

The girls do not give freebies to shop owners and don’t do it during recruitment either.

They talk to the owner or manager, who are often female. They try one or two shifts to see if they are getting enough business.

Shop owners on the main see their business as sex hotels renting out rooms by the hour. There is nothing sexual about it in their business thinking. Only how much they will net every day.

Hey appreciate the insight! That’s what I assumed too. Just eye candy is good :love:

[Double_Adapter]

However, none of these agencies you listed collect protection $$$ from brothel owners. None of Australian Labor/Liberal parties, the big 4 banks, the Catholic Church, the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs, FIFA, IOC, WHO, United Nations, US, Hollywood, North Korea et al.

They may not collect directly but definitely receive it (in return for future favours and protections)
Company donations, phylanthropy, straw donors, log rolling , pork barreling, soft money, foreign political donations, dark money, dirty donations ad nauseam it's all fucken the same direct or indirect organised crime.... a bit like being served a turd cake completely covered in icing and sprinkles to cover up the shit that lies underneath. Anyway it's common knowledge that dubious alcohol and gambling companies donate millions to Australia’s major political parties.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-01/political-donations-likened-to-money-laundering/8227952

[Twister]

Punting is one way of maintaining one’s spiritual, mental and physical health. As such it should be partly funded by the government and depending on your income have a health fund rebate.

The world would be a happier place.

Why isn’t it?

P.S. I wouldn’t have to busk to pay for my punting… The monkey needs a break.