Don't ask "how much". Instead, make them an offer

[andrewv]

I have been trialling a new strategy at massage shops, and it seems to work.

Over the last 12 months or so, we have all seen prices going up, with most girls now asking for $100 for NHJ and the odd girl asking for $150 so let you touch her or to get B2B.

The usual procedure is where the girl asks if you want extras, and then you ask, "What is on offer, and how much?" She is in charge then and she names her price.


What I have done in the last seven sessions is when they ask what or if I want extras, I take the lead and say, "I have $100 cash next to my things (usually, glasses and mobile phone, and I point my hand at it) and I am looking for NHJ, touching and B2B if this is OK with you?"

Two of the seven replied that this is not enough or that they'd not do B2B or whatever else, in which case I replied, "Oh. That's OK. It is up to you. You can make $100 in the next (whatever time is left). It is what I am happy to pay for what I want." and then I repeat "it is up to you" a second time.

One of these two nodded, picked the cash and put it in her pocket and started the deal. Only one of seven rejected my offer and quickly finished the massage. No HE which was fine by me, as it was only $70 down.

In 6 out of 7 sessions, my offer (keyword: offer, not their menu prices) was accepted. Three of the seven said, "OK, but don't put your finger inside", or words to that effect. One of the 6 included a BBBJ without me asking.

Gents, we should all take the lead in making an offer rather than ask them, and buy from their menu and price list.

You should have the cash (usually 2 $50 notes) visible on the table next to your stuff.

I've had too many MLs in the late part of 2023 asking for $150 on top of the usual $70 to $90 massage/room fee. I don't think this is wise because in a few months they might start asking for $200.

All of the above does not apply to Part-3. I do not go for Part-3 because I don't enjoy covered sex and without a condom the risk of STDs is too high.

[Twister]

Why not have shops with fixed pricing? You grab a card from the front counter as you pay the mamasan and it’s got on it numbers 1,2 or 3 or pictures of 1-3 pineapples. In the room you hand it to the ML and she knows what the deal is. The ML’s that work there abide by the card system or they don’t work there. No need to haggle as some don’t talk anyway.

[BearOrigin]

I wonder if it happened before - punter asking for whatever extras on offer, agreed on the price and after finishing claims that he has no money. If it's a legit place would be difficult for the ML to make noise and get the punter into trouble.

[ReginaldBubbles]

Best way to make them like you

[massage addict]

I have been trialling a new strategy at massage shops, and it seems to work.

Over the last 12 months or so, we have all seen prices going up, with most girls now asking for $100 for NHJ and the odd girl asking for $150 so let you touch her or to get B2B.

The usual procedure is where the girl asks if you want extras, and then you ask, "What is on offer, and how much?" She is in charge then and she names her price.


What I have done in the last seven sessions is when they ask what or if I want extras, I take the lead and say, "I have $100 cash next to my things (usually, glasses and mobile phone, and I point my hand at it) and I am looking for NHJ, touching and B2B if this is OK with you?"

Two of the seven replied that this is not enough or that they'd not do B2B or whatever else, in which case I replied, "Oh. That's OK. It is up to you. You can make $100 in the next (whatever time is left). It is what I am happy to pay for what I want." and then I repeat "it is up to you" a second time.

One of these two nodded, picked the cash and put it in her pocket and started the deal. Only one of seven rejected my offer and quickly finished the massage. No HE which was fine by me, as it was only $70 down.

In 6 out of 7 sessions, my offer (keyword: offer, not their menu prices) was accepted. Three of the seven said, "OK, but don't put your finger inside", or words to that effect. One of the 6 included a BBBJ without me asking.

Gents, we should all take the lead in making an offer rather than ask them, and buy from their menu and price list.

You should have the cash (usually 2 $50 notes) visible on the table next to your stuff.

I've had too many MLs in the late part of 2023 asking for $150 on top of the usual $70 to $90 massage/room fee. I don't think this is wise because in a few months they might start asking for $200.

All of the above does not apply to Part-3. I do not go for Part-3 because I don't enjoy covered sex and without a condom the risk of STDs is too high.

100% agree. I do the same thing. 99% of them will take the deal with no extras they are only getting $20 of that $70 for an hr.

[schloong]

Sounds good Bro andrew & will give this a go next time I go to a place other than seeing my regular, thanks.

[andrewv]

Just put 2x $50 banknotes side by side, visible next to your things so she can see the cash but it’s next to your stuff so it’s not a tip or payment yet.

Good old “show me the money” works almost every time.

[BearOrigin]

Just put 2x $50 banknotes side by side, visible next to your things so she can see the cash but it’s next to your stuff so it’s not a tip or payment yet.

Good old “show me the money” works almost every time.

Reminds me of back when extras didn't have a set standard price. The girls would take any amount as long as it is over $20.

FS was hard to get because the girls didn't want to be caught with a bunch of condoms in their possession during a council visit. In 41 Epping when it was under previous management, there was one Korean milf who offered FS, she hid her condoms in the baby wipes package. I only had $80 cash on me, she wanted $100 but she said she'll take that $80 as a "first timer discount".

Mamasan from previous management in 41 Epping was very cautious. The girls who worked there all told me that mamasan is very strict in regards to girls providing extras, she didn't want her business to get into trouble. Pre-COVID times Epping wasn't such a busy suburb so the whole Beecroft Rd strip was quite cheap to rent. I miss the Vietnamese bakery on the same strip right next to the kebab shop - $5 Banh Mi. That's what I used to get after a punt in Epping.

[Nobis]

Next time you rock up 80 bucks? Or back to full $100

[andrewv]

Reminds me of back when extras didn't have a set standard price. The girls would take any amount as long as it is over $20.

FS was hard to get because the girls didn't want to be caught with a bunch of condoms in their possession during a council visit. In 41 Epping when it was under previous management, there was one Korean milf who offered FS, she hid her condoms in the baby wipes package. I only had $80 cash on me, she wanted $100 but she said she'll take that $80 as a "first timer discount".

Mamasan from previous management in 41 Epping was very cautious. The girls who worked there all told me that mamasan is very strict in regards to girls providing extras, she didn't want her business to get into trouble. Pre-COVID times Epping wasn't such a busy suburb so the whole Beecroft Rd strip was quite cheap to rent. I miss the Vietnamese bakery on the same strip right next to the kebab shop - $5 Banh Mi. That's what I used to get after a punt in Epping.

Your comment reminded me of a place in Roseville (Pacific Highway) many years ago which had some of their girls offer FS but men had to bring their own condoms. The first time I went there the girl told me that they waited to see if the customer stripped down first before talking about services in case he was a cop. Go figure. I was told that cops didn’t get undressed and asked if FS was available.

Today, it’s different. Councils hire a company that sends guys to see if FS is on offer and then sign stat decs for the council to take to magistrate courts to get orders to shut down.

[BearOrigin]

Today, it’s different. Councils hire a company that sends guys to see if FS is on offer and then sign stat decs for the council to take to magistrate courts to get orders to shut down.

If councils are actively sending out PIs to investigate whether unlicensed shops are offering extras, why are there so many new massage shops opening up rather than closing down? Sounds a bit sus, it's as if some councillors are getting their pockets lined up to keep businesses running and expanding like mushrooms. Mind you that many LGA councillors officially get paid the same salaries as supermarket workers. The previous Ryde councillor had to resign because he was caught in a scandal, and I suppose it's because he can't live on a $50k salary trying to look flashy all the time.

On the other hand these days there's many open minded MLs who bring boxes of condoms with them without trying to conceal it. Only once a Filipino ML wrapped my used condom in a tissue and asked me to take it with me on my way out. I suppose she's quite new to the business and didn't want to risk getting caught. If caught, does the penalty apply to shop only or does it apply to the girl as well?

[andrewv]

If councils are actively sending out PIs to investigate whether unlicensed shops are offering extras, why are there so many new massage shops opening up rather than closing down? Sounds a bit sus, it's as if some councillors are getting their pockets lined up to keep businesses running and expanding like mushrooms. Mind you that many LGA councillors officially get paid the same salaries as supermarket workers. The previous Ryde councillor had to resign because he was caught in a scandal, and I suppose it's because he can't live on a $50k salary trying to look flashy all the time.

On the other hand these days there's many open minded MLs who bring boxes of condoms with them without trying to conceal it. Only once a Filipino ML wrapped my used condom in a tissue and asked me to take it with me on my way out. I suppose she's quite new to the business and didn't want to risk getting caught. If caught, does the penalty apply to shop only or does it apply to the girl as well?

It comes and goes in waves depending on if one of the councillors is a fanatical Christian and raises the issue at council meetings. Council staff generally don’t want to chase the issue of massage shops and brothels. Sometimes the public too file complaints.
Best option for shop owners is to be in industrial areas away from busy public places, schools, etc.

[Sibon]

What I have done in the last seven sessions is when they ask what or if I want extras, I take the lead and say, "I have $100 cash next to my things (usually, glasses and mobile phone, and I point my hand at it) and I am looking for NHJ, touching and B2B if this is OK with you?"


I think you are overpaying. We get that for $50. :)

[andrewv]

I think you are overpaying. We get that for $50. :)

Please enlighten us. Where do you get NHJ and B2B and unlimited touching for $50….😳

[CursedCoomer]

Damn bruh, where are you going that girls are regularly asking for $100 for a nhj? I'm still getting offered 1 pineapple for nhj and $70/$80 for b2b with lots of touching and exploring.

[andrewv]

Damn bruh, where are you going that girls are regularly asking for $100 for a nhj? I'm still getting offered 1 pineapple for nhj and $70/$80 for b2b with lots of touching and exploring.

As I wrote above, all those brothers who're paying only $50 to $80 for NHJ + B2B + lots of touching and explorations, please do share the names of shops and/or girls you're seeing.
We could all save ourselves $30 to $50 or more.

[Johny77]

As I wrote above, all those brothers who're paying only $50 to $80 for NHJ + B2B + lots of touching and explorations, please do share the names of shops and/or girls you're seeing.
We could all save ourselves $30 to $50 or more.

I saw Ally at 200 Stanmore. From memory it was $90 for half hour upfront (store price) and included nude hj. She has some good reviews but with me she quite mechanical. Good looking girl though.

[11Bravo]

For me, I KNOW my thresholds, so doesn't matter "who goes first". When I first started, I'd lay a pineapple on the massage table to indicate my interest in extras. After a couple of months, no need. Depending on my interest in the lady, if high, I'll ask about extras and cost. If not so high, I'll let her bring it up. MOST of the time, it's "as expected", within my ranges. But I do the homework and know the going rates going in. Sometimes I'm pleasantly surprised when the price quote is on the low side. For the "up to you" responses, I pick the mid-point between MY low and high "gates".

Now, recently, I did get an OTT quote. Had read an AR with BBBJ quoted as 2p's, FS for 3p's. However, when I asked about FS, it was not an option WITH ME. Fine, up to her. Her prices FOR ME: 2p's NHJ, 3p's oral. I just said, "No thank you". She asked how we should spend the last 20 minutes (45 minute booking), I just said she should continue the massage. My calculation was, worst case, would give me time to mentally select my alternate target and calculate route. Best case, she might make a counter offer. 2 minutes later, she asked about any "renewed" interest in a HJ. I simply quoted MY prices: 1p and 2p respectively for what was on offer. She accepted MY price for oral. I will readily admit I was complacent and hadn't asked which oral; it was covered. OK, again, up to her. Actually it was a decent CBJ, fondling and stroking allowed (no penetration). WIR: no, but at least now I KNOW what her battle gear - birthday suit looked like, and what her experience was like FOR ME. I'm GUESSING that REPEAT visits to woo her MIGHT lead to further upgrades, but honestly, I don't have the time nor the interest to pursue (especially as it was a bit of a slog to get there).

Bottom line: I always consider an OTT quote as one of those "it never hurts to ask", but I also KNOW what my prices will be FOR HER. And given that the standard prices work so well for so many, it's RARE when an exception occurs. Just disrespectful to those who DO deliver, and my Opal card will carry me anywhere I want to go. Nice thing about SYD, there ARE so MANY options...

[Johny77]

For me, I KNOW my thresholds, so doesn't matter "who goes first". When I first started, I'd lay a pineapple on the massage table to indicate my interest in extras. After a couple of months, no need. Depending on my interest in the lady, if high, I'll ask about extras and cost. If not so high, I'll let her bring it up. MOST of the time, it's "as expected", within my ranges. But I do the homework and know the going rates going in. Sometimes I'm pleasantly surprised when the price quote is on the low side. For the "up to you" responses, I pick the mid-point between MY low and high "gates".

Now, recently, I did get an OTT quote. Had read an AR with BBBJ quoted as 2p's, FS for 3p's. However, when I asked about FS, it was not an option WITH ME. Fine, up to her. Her prices FOR ME: 2p's NHJ, 3p's oral. I just said, "No thank you". She asked how we should spend the last 20 minutes (45 minute booking), I just said she should continue the massage. My calculation was, worst case, would give me time to mentally select my alternate target and calculate route. Best case, she might make a counter offer. 2 minutes later, she asked about any "renewed" interest in a HJ. I simply quoted MY prices: 1p and 2p respectively for what was on offer. She accepted MY price for oral. I will readily admit I was complacent and hadn't asked which oral; it was covered. OK, again, up to her. Actually it was a decent CBJ, fondling and stroking allowed (no penetration). WIR: no, but at least now I KNOW what her battle gear - birthday suit looked like, and what her experience was like FOR ME. I'm GUESSING that REPEAT visits to woo her MIGHT lead to further upgrades, but honestly, I don't have the time nor the interest to pursue (especially as it was a bit of a slog to get there).

Bottom line: I always consider an OTT quote as one of those "it never hurts to ask", but I also KNOW what my prices will be FOR HER. And given that the standard prices work so well for so many, it's RARE when an exception occurs. Just disrespectful to those who DO deliver, and my Opal card will carry me anywhere I want to go. Nice thing about SYD, there ARE so MANY options...

Love the calculation. Use the massage time to mentally select an alternate haha. Brilliant!

[CursedCoomer]

As I wrote above, all those brothers who're paying only $50 to $80 for NHJ + B2B + lots of touching and explorations, please do share the names of shops and/or girls you're seeing.
We could all save ourselves $30 to $50 or more.

Pretty much all the girls at Parra Blossom give this rate, which means the sister shops (Sydney Baby Massage and Sydney Girl Massage) they work at should also be the same cost. Also the aunty/milf shops are guaranteed to be $50 for nhj and $70/$80 for b2b. If you're down you can do fs for 2 pineapples only.

Now what are the names of these shops where the girls are regularly asking for $100 for a nhj so we can avoid?

[ColesBag]

I like the show money thing. I've always done that too. I remember once one m/l was being unreasonable & trying to way overcharge so I shrugged my shoulders & left without even getting the massage. Never be afraid to walk away, it keeps you in control.

[ReginaldBubbles]

I like the show money thing. I've always done that too. I remember once one m/l was being unreasonable & trying to way overcharge so I shrugged my shoulders & left without even getting the massage. Never be afraid to walk away, it keeps you in control.

If you walk away without getting what you want because they won't charge you less than they usually do, who's in control?

[badone]

i agree $50 for NHJ, and any extra , b2b , maybe $80 in total,
it seems that we are the ones pushing up prices by offering the $100 , so then the girls see this as the new standard. we should all sit back and set the price at $50 nhj, $80 b2b $100 maybe include bbj.

[Asiandaddy]

i agree $50 for NHJ, and any extra , b2b , maybe $80 in total,
it seems that we are the ones pushing up prices by offering the $100 , so then the girls see this as the new standard. we should all sit back and set the price at $50 nhj, $80 b2b $100 maybe include bbj.

Do you find it that the older ML are more willing to negotiate on the price compared to the younger blood. My experience has been that, younger ones are less willing to budge on their prices. Unfortunately I prefer the younger and more fresher fruit

[badone]

Do you find it that the older ML are more willing to negotiate on the price compared to the younger blood. My experience has been that, younger ones are less willing to budge on their prices. Unfortunately I prefer the younger and more fresher fruit

not necessarily , i have seen younger ones too, i just mention the $50 in the beginning , maybe if one waits for the girl to initiate saying do you want NHJ , then they are in control, and by then one may be too horny .... lol ,

[gamer2]

This logically works and sounds great until I start thinking with my other head. Jokes aside this is great. I support this method.

[11Bravo]

This logically works and sounds great until I start thinking with my other head. Jokes aside this is great. I support this method.

Perhaps another benefit of being old - she KNOWS you're experienced and set in your ways...

[c1teh9]

Always been $50 NHJ, $70-80 B2B, $100 bj and $150 FS in 95% of the shops I visit. Sometimes even $100 for FS.

[11Bravo]

Always been $50 NHJ, $70-80 B2B, $100 bj and $150 FS in 95% of the shops I visit. Sometimes even $100 for FS.
Agreed, those are my thresholds which I have no problem adhering to in RnT's.

[Coastguy]

The market is over inflated. For a quick massage and a NHJ. if you paying $150 you need your head read.

I’ve been doing this for a while now and works every time. the only price I pay for in a massage situation is the 30min price. I don’t go seeking for extras straight up. Jump up on table naked cock tucked out pointing towards the toes. As they massage they can see you getting hard and then start asking “extra extra” Last week I was in a well know Sydney place late one arvo that normally 100 for “extras” on top of massage

I always go with $50 extra in 2x $20 and a $10.
$30 in the main part and an extra $20 in a hidden spot so when I open my wallet it’s not seen.

Most of the time I get a NHJ for and extra $30 on top of the massage price. If you paint the picture you didn’t know “extras” were on the table and show only $30 they will take that all day every day as generally the only money they make are the extra tips…

Stand firm “haven’t got any more money” they will push and push. Stand firm only $30 they will take it.

In 3 years only had a handful say no. If she’s really good I will pull the extra $20 out. Had one that called my bluff and said you finish your self. That was an interesting concept, started to have a wank on the table and it must have turned her on. She took the $30 and helped out with a CBJ.

Saved myself heaps over the years. We as a community need to push back. Prices are outrageous. I always have a chuckle when I see guys post it cost me $200 in extras 🤦🏼*♂️

[c1teh9]

So you have only ever seen an ML one time before moving on since the 'didn't know about extras' line only works once?

[Rookiestones]

Thanks coastguy... That's very useful. I tend to go in sessions with broken down notes such as 1x $50, 2 or 3 $20s and 1x $10 and have certain amounts in a couple pockets and take out according to the situation.

Anyways, I've abstained from punting for a little while now but have thought about the proposition when it comes to a fair price (agree that extras mentioned seems abit too inflated).

Here's my thinking based on a 30min RNT session:

- First 5min or so is the intro, small talk, undressing, setting up wateva.
- The next 10 or so mins is the massage.
- This leaves 15mins for the WL offer, provide and conduct the agreed extras (maybe less to include time for clean up, shower or getting dress so 10mins perhaps)

At $50, that's the equivalent of $200 an hour for 15mins of work or $250 and hour IF done in 10mins (excluding wateva base rate they earn)

So if you break it down like this to the WL... from that perspective isn't that still appealing financially? (Obviously it's ultimately their discretion and you must be respectful)

Admittedly, I haven't tried this approach in practice yet... Will give it a go when the next opportunity comes.

[11Bravo]

So you have only ever seen an ML one time before moving on since the 'didn't know about extras' line only works once?
Good point, but not a solution for those of us who want to upgrade past Economy Class... And I wouldn't think that she'd be putting in ANY effort to keep him as a repeat customer... More like wanting to finish fast and be done with it.

Maybe this is the reason that his gangbang party seemed to have never taken place:

http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread.php?111766-Gangbang&p=2573180&viewfull=1#post2573180

And why he's a bit short in the AR department...

Bottom line: I have MY price and if we're in agreement, that's a go.

[Coastguy]

Nah there about 300 massage shops over Sydney. Shop around try the fruits they offer.

[hornedbeast]

Walk away will blue balls

[Coastguy]

So to set the record straight, yeah it actually went well. As many suggested it was for OF content. Fairly common actually. If you bothered to stick around and read the other comments there are a few of these occurring from time to time and it looks like Jesse nailed it in her response.

You must have been one of the countless that didn’t fit the criteria and got sand in ya mangina. Carnt please everyone.

Economy class what a laugh. Please….
Did you bother to read.. can you actually read…. There are numerous well known places that I have done this at….. next you will be asking where… like I’m going to list so they get in the shit…

For some on a slow day $30 is better than 0 but hey seems you know it all.

[GoldfishMan]

That "hiding the money in your wallet" trick, I used to do that every time I get pulled over by a cop in Malaysia. It's the cheapest way to bribe them. You open your wallet with only a couple of 10s there, that's the price they'll accept, lol @ the fuckers.

[woods23]

Coastguy. You're one tight ass every girls hate you.
Your tricks might work on the" left over" !! Be a gentleman Just Pay them what's worth.....you don't have to over pay them.

[Coastguy]

Coastguy. You're one tight ass every girls hate you.
Your tricks might work on the" left over" !! Be a gentleman Just Pay them what's worth.....you don't have to over pay them.


Alright then, woods how much does a HJ cost. Break it down.

[ColesBag]

If you walk away without getting what you want because they won't charge you less than they usually do, who's in control?

She doesn't get income & I get to keep mine & she isn't the last m/l in Sydney.

Therefore, I am. ;)

[Double_Adapter]

She doesn't get income & I get to keep mine & she isn't the last m/l in Sydney.

Therefore, I am. ;)

Well that put an end to that argument, real fucken quick !
The only exemption to the above is if you're an Indian punter.

[ReginaldBubbles]

She doesn't get income & I get to keep mine & she isn't the last m/l in Sydney.

Therefore, I am. ;)

Well you da man!!

[woods23]

Alright then, woods how much does a HJ cost. Break it down.
There's no need to break it down. Nhj is always $50. ( not $30)
Yes, no first class for you...you can always catch a bus.

[Coastguy]

There's no need to break it down. Nhj is always $50. ( not $30)
Yes, no first class for you...you can always catch a bus.

Why is it $50, just because a car is listed for $60k drive away you’re going to pay full price? 🤣

Just because something “is always” doesn’t mean it’s right or should be.

[11Bravo]

So to set the record straight, yeah it actually went well. As many suggested it was for OF content. Fairly common actually. If you bothered to stick around and read the other comments there are a few of these occurring from time to time and it looks like Jesse nailed it in her response.

You must have been one of the countless that didn’t fit the criteria and got sand in ya mangina. Carnt please everyone.

Economy class what a laugh. Please….
Did you bother to read.. can you actually read…. There are numerous well known places that I have done this at….. next you will be asking where… like I’m going to list so they get in the shit…

For some on a slow day $30 is better than 0 but hey seems you know it all.
Well, besides knowing how to quote a post I'm replying to, my reading comprehension is spot on, readily detecting a scammer. Your tells? Having to hide money and feigning ignorance about the availability of extras. Do you really look that destitute that you have to show them money BEFORE receiving extras? That's a new one for me, but maybe they just figure they can always run faster than me. I DISCUSS prices, but never have to prove what I'm carrying. And if I get a quote outside of my window, I just say, "For that service, I pay this amount". But maybe you missed my AR from last month where I described doing just that. I'm just straight forward.

Besides, 30 minutes? I hate short hops. You just reach cruising altitude and it's descent time. In MP's, 60 worth the trip, otherwise, not worth leaving the house. $20? I don't even know if you can get a Big Mac meal for that. And the shops I visit, while I do try and have exact change, if I don't, they've always returned the difference to me. But if it ever happens that she doesn't, maybe I should just figure you were the previous punter. Same neighborhood.

IMO, it's more about feeling superior, clever, you've gotten one over on the girl. And you post here looking for accolades. None from me. If your self-esteem is so low you have to play games to feel superior, that's on you. Myself, I'm no white knight, but having been an expat in foreign lands, foreign languages, I do respect her. And I had it easy, legit visas, legal jobs. Like I tell her, "same same you; come here, make money, go home". A fellow traveler that I feel some kinship with.

And I have absolutely NO interest in following your footsteps, though others can follow mine given I actually write AR's.

Do I know everything? No. But what I DO know is what her experience is worth to me on that day, and that's what I offer. No need to pay games with hidden pockets and feigning ignorance.

PS: Jesse? Jesse? I don't see no stinkin' Jesse. If you're going to reference a concurring opinion, you should cite the reference. Professor Kingsfield, 101.

[11Bravo]

There's no need to break it down. Nhj is always $50. ( not $30)
Yes, no first class for you...you can always catch a bus.

I look at it like this:startle::grimace::vomit:

On the plus side, myself, I am ... distinctly in the middle, neither a high roller nor a cheap Charlie. I know the understood rates, and have no trouble paying them. It's a win-win when BOTH parties leave the room smiling, not so much when one (or the other) leaves feeling short-changed. Just makes us common folk look good and we don't have to do anything...

[woods23]

Why is it $50, just because a car is listed for $60k drive away you’re going to pay full price? ��

Just because something “is always” doesn’t mean it’s right or should be.

What a clown ( a tight one). You seems to be one of those people go the the food court after 4 pm. Business is slow
. "Eyes open" to pick up a bargain. 50% off , 2 for $10 deal:shout: . Do You need to put just $5 note in your wallet too? Haha

[11Bravo]

What a clown ( a tight one). You seems to be one of those people go the the food court after 4 pm. Business is slow
. "Eyes open" to pick up a bargain. 50% off , 2 for $10 deal:shout: . Do You need to put just $5 note in your wallet too? Haha

Hey, hey, hey, careful now. For some of us older folks, 4 pm IS dinner time, and anything past 8 pm is late night. Besides, you can pick up any number of FREE condiments (NOT condoms) there: salt, ketchup, and if you bring a small bottle, you don't need to bother with the small packets, just look for the large squirt dispenser (well, my favorite did retire last month so I am looking for another...) Who needs to buy napkins? Just grab a handful. The shops won't mind, they'll be glad to have you as a customer (well, one time, anyway).