Club or empire

[scorpio85]

Sorry, i know this has probably been discussed at length before, but wanting some recent intel. I'm very new to punting. Had some great times at RnTs in syd and bris and a so-so time at a syd FS shop. I've heard so many great things about ginza and i think i wanna try my luck there next week when I'm back in syd. Totally understanding that a punt is a punt and there is some element of luck, I'm trying to decide if i should go to empire (which is closer to where I'm staying), or go the extra little bit to club. Is there any notable difference in the venues or quality of girls? Second one I think i already know the answer to, as I've been reading the ARs. And should I book, or just rock up and see a line up? I've got a few i want to check out based on countless positive ARs, but I also want to see them in person and maybe get the receptionists tips based on my preference before I book based on ARs and pics from their site. Any tips to make my first ginza punt would be appreciated and I'll be posting a full AR (good or bad).

[Wipid]

Sorry, i know this has probably been discussed at length before, but wanting some recent intel. I'm very new to punting. Had some great times at RnTs in syd and bris and a so-so time at a syd FS shop. I've heard so many great things about ginza and i think i wanna try my luck there next week when I'm back in syd. Totally understanding that a punt is a punt and there is some element of luck, I'm trying to decide if i should go to empire (which is closer to where I'm staying), or go the extra little bit to club. Is there any notable difference in the venues or quality of girls? Second one I think i already know the answer to, as I've been reading the ARs. And should I book, or just rock up and see a line up? I've got a few i want to check out based on countless positive ARs, but I also want to see them in person and maybe get the receptionists tips based on my preference before I book based on ARs and pics from their site. Any tips to make my first ginza punt would be appreciated and I'll be posting a full AR (good or bad).

Both Ginza shops have been my go to for the majority of my punts. Club the girls get to stay in their own rooms for their whole shifts, whereas Empire the girls for the most part go to different rooms for each session (although some girls like to stay in their own rooms much like in Club). Both shopÂ’s rooms are about the same quality IÂ’d say, some bigger and smaller and all have showers. Both have discreet entrances and reception have been a lot more keen to ask for feedback on the girl after the session. If you want info on a girl or type of girl youÂ’re after theyÂ’d be able to help you out if you text them, as long as itÂ’s not during a busy period like when the roster goes up then theyÂ’d give you more info (although theyÂ’d most likely recommend girls who arenÂ’t as busy or popular).

As for the quality of girls, both shops have their share of girls that have their regular fans booking them out for the day (the K service queens for example like Jessie and Rebecca). Empire tends to have more girls compared to Club due to Empire having more rooms, so if youÂ’re after a line up Empire is the go. Club since the girls have their own room the line up would be pictures on the IPad on the reception desk of the available girls. Some would say Club has the better quality of girls, but Empire nowadays have quite a few gems as well.


Personally I would go for a booking of a well reviewed girl, or one that interests you cause the good popular ones would be most likely booked out.

Hope this helps and happy punting

[woodland]

I'm a Club person.
Club has better rooms. They don't smell like cigarettes.
K Misha and K Julia are also at Club.

[Johny77]

Deleted post. Found the answer to my question. Ginza Empire and Ginza club.

[dr3w]

Also club for me, I find the girls at Club are generally more attractive than the girls at Ginza empire and also finding a parking spot is a pain in the ass there

[personaa]

Both are fine and both have horrible websites, particularly empire, with those tiny photos.

[Kizuraz]

The design of Ginza Empire feels as if it was made for what it is. From the reception, the waiting room, the hall ways, etc...
Ginza Club on the other hand very much as a retro-fitted feel. It really is 2 separate buildings, where you literally walk out into the joining backyards.
To compare the inside of the room themselves, Ginza Empire rooms are built for the purpose (bed+basin+shower), and Ginza Club rooms are built for actual living in (small kitchen-type area, maybe a lounge area, bedroom, bathroom, etc...). Of which I believe that the some of the girls actually do live there aswell while their on the job.

At Empire, once you pick a girl, you get told to goto a room number and wait for the girl (or walk with the girl). Where as at Club, you don't get a line up (you pick from the website photos), and get told to go to a room where the girl is already waiting (they phone the girl to expect you). So it kinda has a GF/booty call experience to it.

And if you really want a unique and memorable room, be sure to go to Ginza Club and ask for the Hello Kitty room. I'm not kidding!

[hereforgoodtime]

I don't think Club do line up. I have heard Empire does but unlikely you see the popular girls, especially the ones that has many good ARs on here. So I recommend doing your research and book so you won't be dissapointed.

In regards to girl quality, I think because the girl is allocated a room in Club, the girl tend to be the popular ones, otherwise it a waste of either the shop or girl money. For Empire there is still good WL such as K Rebecca, J Asumi, K IU etc. Therefore it really about which shop has the girl you want to see I say haha. Both shop receptionist always ask for your feedback after session so the quality is sorta consistent (at least above a threshold)

[BearOrigin]

Also club for me, I find the girls at Club are generally more attractive than the girls at Ginza empire and also finding a parking spot is a pain in the ass there

The street parking in front of GC is normally clear during night time. If you're going for a late night punt there's ample of parking.

[justforfun2023]

Haha I had the hello kitty room last night and was surprised, the bathroom was big... had a bathtub too.

With GC about 3 weeks ago, while I was waiting I did see a few girls come to greet another punter...

[GoldfishMan]

Both are fine and both have horrible websites, particularly empire, with those tiny photos.

Bro, tell me about it. Fucking hate both websites.

The GE one has heaps of girl profiles arranged in such a way that you have to scroll to the right to see more profiles, and it has this annoying "feature" where it snaps back to the first column if you haven't scrolled further for a few seconds. Coupled with the randomization of the photos each time you reload the page, it's a complete chore going through that website.

The GC one is better, no auto snap back feature, but it doesn't load properly in https!

They've tried to alleviate some of the pain by putting links to the girls profiles in the roster page now but they're still terrible web pages, FMD...

[woodland]

I would happily redesign their webpage if they gave me free sessions.

[madness123]

Bro, tell me about it. Fucking hate both websites.

The GE one has heaps of girl profiles arranged in such a way that you have to scroll to the right to see more profiles, and it has this annoying "feature" where it snaps back to the first column if you haven't scrolled further for a few seconds. Coupled with the randomization of the photos each time you reload the page, it's a complete chore going through that website.

The GC one is better, no auto snap back feature, but it doesn't load properly in https!

They've tried to alleviate some of the pain by putting links to the girls profiles in the roster page now but they're still terrible web pages, FMD...

That kills me too the flipping back and there are so many I forget where I was up to!
I like empire.

[BearOrigin]

My only question is in regards to the new French lady who chose to do MASSAGE + HJ only in GC... Like why don't she work in a massage shop instead of a brothel?

[Abracadabra]

My only question is in regards to the new French lady who chose to do MASSAGE + HJ only in GC... Like why don't she work in a massage shop instead of a brothel?

Yeah, that occurred to me as well?

[yunglean]

She gets paid way more working at Ginza lol

[Abracadabra]

She gets paid way more working at Ginza lol

If she gets business..
Ginza is a brothel not a massage venue.

[nosytt]

Shes taking up a room the could be used for someone making $$$ unless Ginza gets the same room rate regardless?

[hereforgoodtime]

She's in Empire right, likely that the shop gives the room for same rate

[scorpio85]

The design of Ginza Empire feels as if it was made for what it is. From the reception, the waiting room, the hall ways, etc...
Ginza Club on the other hand very much as a retro-fitted feel. It really is 2 separate buildings, where you literally walk out into the joining backyards.
To compare the inside of the room themselves, Ginza Empire rooms are built for the purpose (bed+basin+shower), and Ginza Club rooms are built for actual living in (small kitchen-type area, maybe a lounge area, bedroom, bathroom, etc...). Of which I believe that the some of the girls actually do live there aswell while their on the job.

At Empire, once you pick a girl, you get told to goto a room number and wait for the girl (or walk with the girl). Where as at Club, you don't get a line up (you pick from the website photos), and get told to go to a room where the girl is already waiting (they phone the girl to expect you). So it kinda has a GF/booty call experience to it.

And if you really want a unique and memorable room, be sure to go to Ginza Club and ask for the Hello Kitty room. I'm not kidding!
Thanks for the info. I'm in town for a couple of nights. Maybe I need to visit both to compare

[Jack-Jack]

Sorry, i know this has probably been discussed at length before, but wanting some recent intel. I'm very new to punting. Had some great times at RnTs in syd and bris and a so-so time at a syd FS shop. I've heard so many great things about ginza and i think i wanna try my luck there next week when I'm back in syd. Totally understanding that a punt is a punt and there is some element of luck, I'm trying to decide if i should go to empire (which is closer to where I'm staying), or go the extra little bit to club. Is there any notable difference in the venues or quality of girls? Second one I think i already know the answer to, as I've been reading the ARs. And should I book, or just rock up and see a line up? I've got a few i want to check out based on countless positive ARs, but I also want to see them in person and maybe get the receptionists tips based on my preference before I book based on ARs and pics from their site. Any tips to make my first ginza punt would be appreciated and I'll be posting a full AR (good or bad).

heyy good luck with ur first venture to Ginza...

you have a few things to consider i think...

Do i want a lineup and what is my prefereed type of girl either nationality or biody type...

travelling all the way here to sydney i wouldnt be too fuseed about the extra travel/walk to club because:
a) the girl might be worth the walk and
b) even if u book a girl at empire you're probs 20-30% chance still having to do the walk as some of the girls may be working out from 278 shop...

i reckon figure out which girl you want first rather than let distance of the shop limit you to who u wanna see

re the 2 shops historically Club used to have the better and more premium girls and they hold a higher standard in terms of service... but lately with reception asking each customer for feedback even in the small 278 shop i've not really had bad service other than the odd sub par service and even then thats like 7.5 -8 service and was probly due to rushed 30mins or i saw them later in the evening...

both shops have excellent reception team... you have Handsome Oppa at 278 and handsome chinese guy at Club but being ur first time there it might be hard for them to give you solida recommendation and knowing what types of girls would suit you.

i usually with new girls will go is she similar to this girl or that girl so it gives me a much better idea than reading off the description

If you do opt for going for lineup then Empire is better option and id suggest going early like 1030 when shop opens or after 2pm when the shopping is not as busy as its after lunch time rush and before end of work rush hahaha

and best to figure out your punting and sex styles even if its with ML or in personal life do you like being led or want to be the one calling the shots or want to be just star fish...

this will help u decide getting GFE girl PSE girl or top top service girl and help set ur expectations u cant really expect a 9/10 out 10 service girl from one of the new J Girls
at the same time the girls who give this level of service and having that experience to serve you as a king wont be as young and firm body and as cute and pretty as the new J Girls...

hahhaha pick wisely and plan ahead to ensure u get the best experience lol

do you mind sharing what ur preferences are for girls and who you have narrowed down in your to punt list?

[Jack-Jack]

oh and for me personally both shops are good for me i dont favour one of the other i follow the girls i wanna see hahaha but one of the pros with Club and 278 is that they stay there for the day so often the bed sheets are already made and they are all used to the routine where as id say 1% of the time at empire have had time where the girl forgot to get towel or forget to get mouthwash lol i think they assumed mouthwash was in the room similar to handwash and the cups hahaha

but thats really just nit picking overall both are great shops comapared to the other ones i been at in the city and the hit rate for service is much better alot of the newbie J girls at other shops i find are a bit cold...

[rooter]

Quality of girls is the same. Sometimes 310 gets the top girls and sometimes 479 does. It evens out in the long run.
Reception staff excellent at both shops.
Quality of rooms a slight advantage to 310 because they have the property next door with the big apartment style rooms.
310 has 3 small rooms 5, 11, and 12, the rest are medium size and there are around 10 large size ones.
479 has around 3 small rooms, the rest are medium size, and around 3 large ones.
All rooms at both shops have aircon. All the aircon units are different so can take a while for you or the girl to figure out the remote, but they all work.
For walk in and line up better to go to 479 you will get a larger line up.

[scorpio85]

I actually went to empire...twice. I had an awesome time both times. I did some research, made a short list and went late, after 10pm. Both times, I was lucky to get someone from my list. My only regret, especially the second time, was not bringing more cash and not booking.
Basically, my faith has been restored, and I'm starting to work out my preferences as I've not had a lot of experience outside of my partner or at shops.
I'll definitely book next time and I'll have to try one of the girls at club next time if I think they tick my boxes.
First night, at another shop, was a dud. I have a long AR on my three nights.

[Jack-Jack]

Quality of girls is the same. Sometimes 310 gets the top girls and sometimes 479 does. It evens out in the long run.
Reception staff excellent at both shops.
Quality of rooms a slight advantage to 310 because they have the property next door with the big apartment style rooms.
310 has 3 small rooms 5, 11, and 12, the rest are medium size and there are around 10 large size ones.
479 has around 3 small rooms, the rest are medium size, and around 3 large ones.
All rooms at both shops have aircon. All the aircon units are different so can take a while for you or the girl to figure out the remote, but they all work.
For walk in and line up better to go to 479 you will get a larger line up.

yea agree that it evens itself out in the long run it was K Girl fever last few days at Empire
but then K Sia came back briefly to club and now Miki has returned to club too

both shops have JAV girls and super young J Girls cant really go wrong and reception are awesome!!

[Jack-Jack]

I actually went to empire...twice. I had an awesome time both times. I did some research, made a short list and went late, after 10pm. Both times, I was lucky to get someone from my list. My only regret, especially the second time, was not bringing more cash and not booking.
Basically, my faith has been restored, and I'm starting to work out my preferences as I've not had a lot of experience outside of my partner or at shops.
I'll definitely book next time and I'll have to try one of the girls at club next time if I think they tick my boxes.
First night, at another shop, was a dud. I have a long AR on my three nights.

yea not booking can be hard for the popular girls and when u go dury the busy times lol

how come not bring enough cash? didnt you know how much the girls wereupfront based on their profile?

[scorpio85]

I think i had three on my short list and a couple of others on my "not so short" list. Had enough for 45 mins with any 3 of them, but reception really recommended ABJ Jade to me. And I'm glad they did. She had 45 mins free, but I only had enough cash for 30 mins. And I got convinced by a previous girl at another shop for more money for a second shot...so a little budget self control, plus it was an unexpected stay after my flight was cancelled.
Live and learn. Won't be going to the other place again, and if I'm not booking, I'll bring enough cash as a buffer for the more expensive girls.

[Jack-Jack]

I think i had three on my short list and a couple of others on my "not so short" list. Had enough for 45 mins with any 3 of them, but reception really recommended ABJ Jade to me. And I'm glad they did. She had 45 mins free, but I only had enough cash for 30 mins. And I got convinced by a previous girl at another shop for more money for a second shot...so a little budget self control, plus it was an unexpected stay after my flight was cancelled.
Live and learn. Won't be going to the other place again, and if I'm not booking, I'll bring enough cash as a buffer for the more expensive girls.

mind sharing who is on your list both the top 3 and the not so short listed? hahaha

haha yea i always try to bring little bit extra cash for emergency but i rarely ever do walk in on the odd occassion i rocked up and reception told me the new price cos the girls price increased overnight but it was like on $10

sometimes i carry extra in case i wanna extend but usually the girls i see for 30mins and wanna extend they have booking arleady i learnt to always bnring cash cos one time i was like $20 short and the surcharged for card was crazy and i dont want the details showing up on my account plus neither shop has atm....

yea best to confirm with reception i think with Ginza you pretty much guranteed 2 shots in a 60mins booking if the girl tries to shaft u and ask for more money complain to the intercom ;)

ginza is quite fair i think one time i complained about no CIM and they checked girl profile and said yea we didnt put CIM on her profile see - that made me eat my words hahaha

[Putter]

When GE originally started, the main difference was that CIM was included in the price. At Ginza, it was extra, like an extra $30 and you had to ask the girls.

Now CIM is included in the price at both shops for most girls and it’s reflected in the higher prices. So both are possibly on the same level.

Other punters have provided great advice on this thread.

For me, i like both shops and as it’s run by the same people, there isn’t a real difference anymore except for one aspect. I like the mirrors in GE as it gives the punter a visual 360 view that enhances the sexual experience. My recent session with K IU reinforces how the mirrors intensified the whole experience for her and myself.





Sorry, i know this has probably been discussed at length before, but wanting some recent intel. I'm very new to punting. Had some great times at RnTs in syd and bris and a so-so time at a syd FS shop. I've heard so many great things about ginza and i think i wanna try my luck there next week when I'm back in syd. Totally understanding that a punt is a punt and there is some element of luck, I'm trying to decide if i should go to empire (which is closer to where I'm staying), or go the extra little bit to club. Is there any notable difference in the venues or quality of girls? Second one I think i already know the answer to, as I've been reading the ARs. And should I book, or just rock up and see a line up? I've got a few i want to check out based on countless positive ARs, but I also want to see them in person and maybe get the receptionists tips based on my preference before I book based on ARs and pics from their site. Any tips to make my first ginza punt would be appreciated and I'll be posting a full AR (good or bad).

[scorpio85]

mind sharing who is on your list both the top 3 and the not so short listed? hahaha

I deleted my list from wednesday for club and empire... I'm super paranoid.
Here's my list i made for the last night. Turns out Jade was in my top 3...Makina and Mocha were both busy and I didn'task about Yoko, so I was lucky to see someone on my list. Definitely will be booking next time. This purely based on website descriptions and photos only. I'm thinking I'll do a similar thing next time and either book or give a heads up that i want to see a line up and decide on the spot. I'm not super fussy with girls, but had a particular type in mind that night, and I was more than satisfied.

J Yuka - C -4am inexp
J makina - B - 3am inexp ☆
J mocha - D - 4am , curvy ☆
JAV rin hasumi - E - 2am exp, 45 minimum
J yoko - 4am - C - tall skinny ☆
J Mio - B+ 12am - good English
ABJ jade - C - 4am - curvy, fit, good eng ☆