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Farkersfolly
24-03-2024, 02:13 PM
Need a little help here...
Such a variety of charges from shop to Shop...confusing
SHOP..
1.Shop charges for the room around $70
Then everything else is negotiated with the girl
2. Shop charges around $125 which includes NHJ
Then extras negotiated

EXTRAS..
CBJ ...$50 seems to be the average
FS......$120 seems to be the average + Room Charge

Recent experience
Shop charge $70...hit up for $100 for CBJ..$170

Some shops charge $125 for the room and the cost of CBJ Is $50

So it seems that a massage with CBJ the average cost is $170..?

Your thoughts/ input Gents please

imaragingbull
24-03-2024, 02:20 PM
This is the free market at play - Adam Smith smiling down on us all

Farkersfolly
24-03-2024, 02:26 PM
This is the free market at play - Adam Smith smiling down on us all
Market forces skewed by a raging boner

Hogrider
24-03-2024, 03:16 PM
Stopped overpaying and started to think with big head ..
cut down a few punts and only go for VFM .. I still go 3/4 times per month

Ofcourse everyone differs to what our individual goal is

Young PYT who overcharges based on hype and looks alone ? Or late20/30 with standard rates with great service ?

Massage and a release ? Go for ML - still I am paying massage fees plus 50-60 ( sometimes part 2 sometimes part 2.5)

Need to bang and have all the bits ? Go to Ginza or n5m

Fix what you need and the rest is easy

It’s WE who ruined the market

The below is IMO still standard

The room/massage fee (70/80$) +
1. Nude HJ - (sometimes b2b ) - 50-60$
2. bJ and everything short of FS ($70/$80)
3. FS ($100/$120 )

More than that ? Go for a FS shop ..

badone
24-03-2024, 04:10 PM
Stopped overpaying and started to think with big head ..
cut down a few punts and only go for VFM .. I still go 3/4 times per month

Ofcourse everyone differs to what our individual goal is

Young PYT who overcharges based on hype and looks alone ? Or late20/30 with standard rates with great service ?

Massage and a release ? Go for ML - still I am paying massage fees plus 50-60 ( sometimes part 2 sometimes part 2.5)

Need to bang and have all the bits ? Go to Ginza or n5m

Fix what you need and the rest is easy

It’s WE who ruined the market

The below is IMO still standard

The room/massage fee (70/80$) +
1. Nude HJ - (sometimes b2b ) - 50-60$
2. bJ and everything short of FS ($70/$80)
3. FS ($100/$120 )

More than that ? Go for a FS shop ..

have to agree Hogrider if we think with our little heads , the prices will keep increasing, if we punters stick to the prices and refuse if they charge extra - then they have to conform.
one shop i had a girl ask me for $80 , for NHJ, i said too much , $50, she left and another girl came in who was better looking and a lot of fun, better attitude too !

Sydozzie
24-03-2024, 08:22 PM
have to agree Hogrider if we think with our little heads , the prices will keep increasing, if we punters stick to the prices and refuse if they charge extra - then they have to conform.
one shop i had a girl ask me for $80 , for NHJ, i said too much , $50, she left and another girl came in who was better looking and a lot of fun, better attitude too !

Just the other week a ML Nicky from SBM was trying to hit me up 200 for FS. I was like NO. Too expensive, she said ok 150 I said NO. We settled for 120, said she doesn't go that low usually but she found me attractive.

I call BS and she was just baiting to see how much she could squeeze out of me. Btw she did like it doggy and very hard whilst looking in the mirror. She had a banging body and great personality, I'd say many would have fallen under her spell.

Danny801
24-03-2024, 11:12 PM
Just the other week a ML Nicky from SBM was trying to hit me up 200 for FS. I was like NO. Too expensive, she said ok 150 I said NO. We settled for 120, said she doesn't go that low usually but she found me attractive.

I call BS and she was just baiting to see how much she could squeeze out of me. Btw she did like it doggy and very hard whilst looking in the mirror. She had a banging body and great personality, I'd say many would have fallen under her spell.

Thats still a tip of 120+50 from the shop fee? Is it not $130 u pay at reception for the hour as it includes her $50 tip ?

Danny801
24-03-2024, 11:14 PM
Stopped overpaying and started to think with big head ..
cut down a few punts and only go for VFM .. I still go 3/4 times per month

Ofcourse everyone differs to what our individual goal is

Young PYT who overcharges based on hype and looks alone ? Or late20/30 with standard rates with great service ?

Massage and a release ? Go for ML - still I am paying massage fees plus 50-60 ( sometimes part 2 sometimes part 2.5)

Need to bang and have all the bits ? Go to Ginza or n5m

Fix what you need and the rest is easy

It’s WE who ruined the market

The below is IMO still standard

The room/massage fee (70/80$) +
1. Nude HJ - (sometimes b2b ) - 50-60$
2. bJ and everything short of FS ($70/$80)
3. FS ($100/$120 )

More than that ? Go for a FS shop ..

Hogrider, good going if you can still get those tip prices for ML. I could before covid but post the standard for fs in most places ive found is $150. 50% cpi consumer punt index .

Hogrider
25-03-2024, 12:56 AM
Mate , as I said - I would just go to FS places and get my release if I want exactly that .

If I want massage and A bit of fun , then the price should match .

I’m no haggler nor I have any intention to short change (thankfully can afford generous tips still)
But I would dictate the charges not other way around (almost always - I may and will break my own rule if the girl is special (winking at you MAC ))

But hey ! Thinking with the big head got me almost everywhere what I want anyway

GoldfishMan
25-03-2024, 08:18 AM
Market forces skewed by a raging boner

I wish I could skewer it with my raging boner. Fuck the free market!

4FoW2
25-03-2024, 08:36 AM
Hi Southerners....thinking about doing a trip from BrisVegas, the pussy overpriced desert of Qld, to Sydney, greener pastures.
Ok so as stated the room/massage fee (70/80$) + 1. Nude HJ - (sometimes b2b ) - 50-60$ 2. bJ and everything short of FS ($70/$80) 3. FS ($100/$120 )

Heard about Ginza et al $250 an hour ...they say GFE/ PSE...$250 an hour ....worth it and a big step up in performance from local shops??????
Am a regular OS to Thai / Phil etc so have high expectations.
Appreciate
4FoW2

GoldfishMan
25-03-2024, 09:38 AM
Hi Southerners....thinking about doing a trip from BrisVegas, the pussy overpriced desert of Qld, to Sydney, greener pastures.
Ok so as stated the room/massage fee (70/80$) + 1. Nude HJ - (sometimes b2b ) - 50-60$ 2. bJ and everything short of FS ($70/$80) 3. FS ($100/$120 )

Heard about Ginza et al $250 an hour ...they say GFE/ PSE...$250 an hour ....worth it and a big step up in performance from local shops??????
Am a regular OS to Thai / Phil etc so have high expectations.
Appreciate
4FoW2

Ginza is now minimum $280/hr, and it goes as high as 380/hr depending on the girl.

Hogrider
25-03-2024, 10:57 AM
Hi Southerners....thinking about doing a trip from BrisVegas, the pussy overpriced desert of Qld, to Sydney, greener pastures.
Ok so as stated the room/massage fee (70/80$) + 1. Nude HJ - (sometimes b2b ) - 50-60$ 2. bJ and everything short of FS ($70/$80) 3. FS ($100/$120 )

Heard about Ginza et al $250 an hour ...they say GFE/ PSE...$250 an hour ....worth it and a big step up in performance from local shops??????
Am a regular OS to Thai / Phil etc so have high expectations.
Appreciate
4FoW2

Check some reviews and head over to Ginza if you wanna do FS . Tell them your preference and they will sort you out ..

Otherwise checkout Massage at central for MLs - (a bit extra price wise but worth it ) ask Angela to sort you out

HardCockInSyd
25-03-2024, 01:48 PM
Stopped overpaying and started to think with big head ..
The below is IMO still standard

The room/massage fee (70/80$) +
1. Nude HJ - (sometimes b2b ) - 50-60$
2. bJ and everything short of FS ($70/$80)
3. FS ($100/$120 )

More than that ? Go for a FS shop ..

Agree 100% with this pricing guide!! Never pay more.

PS - this is for 1 hour massage / room hire as well.

Danny801
25-03-2024, 02:51 PM
Mate , as I said - I would just go to FS places and get my release if I want exactly that .

If I want massage and A bit of fun , then the price should match .

I’m no haggler nor I have any intention to short change (thankfully can afford generous tips still)
But I would dictate the charges not other way around (almost always - I may and will break my own rule if the girl is special (winking at you MAC ))

But hey ! Thinking with the big head got me almost everywhere what I want anyway

Not disputing what you are saying at all. For me , very rare find these days.
Pre covid , ml $50 was standard and extras went in increments of $10-20 at most, and yeah maxed out at $100 most of the time for fs ! Those were the good ol days , i could get 3 punts in a week, for around $300. Nowadays that gives 1.2 punts lol.

HardCockInSyd
25-03-2024, 03:52 PM
Agree 100% with this pricing guide!! Never pay more.

PS - this is for 1 hour massage / room hire as well.

LOL having just posted this - I just ducked out for a cheeky massage at a shop I regularly visit - new girl, $80/hour room/massage fee, then she wanted $50 just for clothed HJ and $100 for NHJ! Lucky I always discussed extra's up front - I walked. Mind you she was a fairly young and hot Thai girl, but I maybe would have stretched a little for the NHJ, but not +$100!

andrewv
25-03-2024, 05:09 PM
We discussed it here before, where you turn the table and say, “what is the maximum you can give me for (for example) $100?”
This way you name your budget (in addition to the entry price of say $80 or $90 and let the girl make an offer of goodies.

Very different from asking for her price list.

imaragingbull
25-03-2024, 05:30 PM
We discussed it here before, where you turn the table and say, “what is the maximum you can give me for (for example) $100?”
This way you name your budget (in addition to the entry price of say $80 or $90 and let the girl make an offer of goodies.

Very different from asking for her price list.

Not sure this is the right negotiating approach. Party knows the customer is prepared to part with $100, so may end up with a suboptimal outcome for that (not all the time)

That being said, prefer to tip with a free attitude and show appreciation for the girls. Much preferred when the topic of money doesn’t come up necessarily

GoldfishMan
26-03-2024, 08:32 AM
Have you guys ever considered that perhaps this "negotiate upfront" approach might not always be the best thing to do?

For one thing, it shows some FOMO on your part. Also, some girls might charge you more for FS because you're locking in the extra right at the start of the sesh. If you're going to want FS action for the whole hour, she might think "I'm going to charge this guy more for it", as opposed to FS for only the last half of the sesh.

On the flipside (pun intended), if you negotiate later in the sesh, the window of opportunity for her to get the extra charge is closing as the clock ticks away. Now you've got HER on the backfoot and the onus is on her to chase your dollar.

jaquedm1307
27-03-2024, 05:02 AM
Absolutely agree with GoldfishMan and have been sadly burnt on a couple of occasions with paying for something which then did not eventuate - lesson learnt; unless it's a repeat visit and you wish to add or alter to what you may have received in the past and trust the ML.

Would be interested to see where do people feel DATY sits in the price range ? Looking at what's been suggested unsure if I'm paying over the odds !!!!!

10 mins massage (plenty of T&T) 10 mins massage for ML (free access) 20 mins DATY in multiple positions 10 mins - b2b front and reverse 10 mins finishing with a bbbj

Paid $120 on top of $70 for 60 mins at massage shop

Danny801
27-03-2024, 11:28 PM
Jaq, only slightly too much, its around $100.

Missed the precovid days, girls were plentiful and it was only extra $10-20 on top of the standard $50, if ur a regular.

wom
28-03-2024, 12:27 AM
When a shop I visit often a new chinese ML in her later 30s (or even early 40s) tried to tell me CBJ is 100 or FS is 150 on top of room fees even before I started saying how long I wanted to stay at I believe it's time for me to leave and not returning for a while.

jaquedm1307
28-03-2024, 04:47 AM
Jaq, only slightly too much, its around $100.

Missed the precovid days, girls were plentiful and it was only extra $10-20 on top of the standard $50, if ur a regular.

Thanks Danny801 - will work on my negotiations skills appreciate your time

GoldfishMan
28-03-2024, 06:40 AM
Absolutely agree with GoldfishMan and have been sadly burnt on a couple of occasions with paying for something which then did not eventuate - lesson learnt; unless it's a repeat visit and you wish to add or alter to what you may have received in the past and trust the ML.

Would be interested to see where do people feel DATY sits in the price range ? Looking at what's been suggested unsure if I'm paying over the odds !!!!!

10 mins massage (plenty of T&T) 10 mins massage for ML (free access) 20 mins DATY in multiple positions 10 mins - b2b front and reverse 10 mins finishing with a bbbj

Paid $120 on top of $70 for 60 mins at massage shop

The bottom line is we are now living through a time of change. Everyone is experiencing the inflation, the only differences are how hard they are impacted and what they do to fight it. Prices are going to be volatile and may differ greatly between providers because of this. It all makes it really hard to say if you overpaid or not, it's just really all over the place at the moment.

I think the price you paid there is fair "enough", but I also think that the value of "good" DATY (I really get off on making them squirm!) trumps good BBBJ anytime, so my value system may not be the same as yours!

MrPB
28-03-2024, 06:46 PM
I'm definitely one to not over pay. I stick to a budget and if she has gone way over, I just walk out.

Worst case is I just end up with a very nice massage.

Danny801
28-03-2024, 09:40 PM
Literally everything has gone up by at least 50% in the last 2 years , and unfortunately its the same for tips , what was $100 is now $150 etc, . Only problem is wages have not, prob up by 7% for most ?!