501 KINGS STREET SERVICE GOING DOWN HILL and CHEATS CUSTOMER $$$

[Thejapguy]

HI I been a long time reader of this forum and understands lots of bros do go to this place for value... but whats value when you dont receive good service?

It happened to me last week when i went to see coco.

I went to 501 picked coco, most bros knows shes a jap girls. As a jap man i was excited to see someone japanese, I booked for 60 minutes. Enter the room, Coco took a look at me and asked if i was japanese, said yes, she said right away I do not like japanese custmomers, i asked her why, she didnt say anything. so as soon as i started she said she needs to go bathroom, she left and 15min later she came back.... so i didnt care as i thought she had to finish off somethings.

very strange mood throughout the next 30mins as not conversation were going on, by then i kinda understand she really doesnt now like me (or jap customers) but nonetheless the massage was quite ok. The funny thing was on the 45mins mark she left (she already spent 15mins before so really it was 30mins of massgage), after she left she didnt come back into room, i waited and waited and finally got dressed and ask mico what was going on, mico advised me the massgage was finished, but i said i paid for 60mins and only receive 30mins and didnt even get an HJ...

i have always read good things about Mico and David being fair and things like that, i thought mico would apologise for the attitude of coco and or something along the way, to my surprise she said to me, yes coco dont like japanese customers thats why she left for the time she did, MLs can choose to go to bathroom for unspecific amount fo time if they needed to and if MLs feels like it, they could decided to offer hj service or not..

i explain to mico its not up to MLs to like the customers or not after all we are paying for their service and we are going to 501 for your reputation of standard service, which is hj included...ML deserve respect and we as customers should deserve the respect of serivce as well...

at the end i just lefted and pissed off, no refund, no service and no apologies.

i just want to let all bros know this expereice and mico should understand yes, she offers great value on her shop but cant take advantage of customers, after all, 501 newtown girls standard has dropped dramatically since Daisy, Ada, sasa jojo days, with 741, 377 pitt and 55 burwood chasing her no1 close behind we as consumers have lots to choose from now...she made her $$ when the queens were there but if she's not becareful 501 king would be forgotten.

Yes, so there you have it everyone

[Charlie123]

Sounds very odd, so coco left for no reason? Was there something that lead up to this?

I wont comment on this particular situation, but as a general observation id say newtown MLs often do a remarkable job of dealing with some very difficult customers who expect a hell of a lot for the money they pay.

Not directed at you bro, just sayin'.

[Travelmate]

I have seen Coco many times, never have any service issue.
She is very friendly and attitude is always good.

This is base on my humble experience.

Even that happens to you .. it is untrue to say .

501 KINGS STREET SERVICE GOING DOWN HILL and CHEATS CUSTOMER $$$ , It cannot be justify by one single case.

[wilisno]

Well, if a girl said she didn't like you before the session started, you should have asked for a replacement, unless you think you have the power to convert her into a lover for you ! ;) ;) ;)

And it sounds like it's between you and the girl, not the shop in general.

[Jj999]

I believe, the reason why this guy felt pissed off is because the owner/manager/reception, didn't even offer an apology..
At least, they should have said that. Even if they thought it's not their fault..
Unless a customer did something terrible to the girl (I'm not saying anyone did), then a customer who felt unsatisfied, should get an apology.

You know what I mean.
Customers are almost always right, even if they sometimes are wrong, unless they did something terrible.
So if what the thread poster said is true and 100% accurate, then, 501 made a mistake by not offering an apology.

What's the cost of an apology anyway.. Just say, we're very sorry for that, we'll say something to the girl.

And everything done, and everyone happy. Haha.

[Thejapguy]

thats exactly right jj999. I am not pissed off @ coco or anything as i understand some jap girls do not likes to see jap guys...its quite common among the jap culture..but the problem was mico's explanation, i would have accepted "sorry would u like another ML or sorry i will speak to coco" she was being defensive from the start, even suggested "depends on the girl hj is not 100% included" and a couple of other old excuses...

she was literally saying " well its cheap $50 bucks but service is not gaurennteed..."

[Travelmate]

thats exactly right jj999. I am not pissed off @ coco or anything as i understand some jap girls do not likes to see jap guys...its quite common among the jap culture..but the problem was mico's explanation, i would have accepted "sorry would u like another ML or sorry i will speak to coco" she was being defensive from the start, even suggested "depends on the girl hj is not 100% included" and a couple of other old excuses...

she was literally saying " well its cheap $50 bucks but service is not gaurennteed..."
ok.... get your point ..
May be not to see the same ML again is the solution.
Or go to another shop

[Jj999]

I'll give one real example of a great customer service. No it's not a shop in sydney. I don't want to be accused of advertising and bias. Haha.

So,one time, I was trying to withdraw $8000 from my betting account. The company is well known as big sportsbooks and of course, great customer service. Which book doesn't have great customer service anyway? Hahaha.
But this one, is in a class of its own. Due to its offshore location in CostaRica, reputation is something very precious.
I contacted the customer service, I requested a withdrawal.
"Hi, I would like to make a withdrawal of $8000 using Neteller method"
"You contacted the right place! May I get your account number sir?"

So to make thing short..

"I have processed the withdrawal, your fund would be available in 7-14 business days"

At that instance, I snapped, you know it was neteller, it should be instant transfer, the usual processing time would be max within 36 hours.

"What? 7-14Business days, it's neteller! What do you need to do with that friggin' long time?"

You know I forgot their condition, they have said in the cashier page that neteller withdrawal require that amount of time. So it's not their fault, it's mine for asking withdrawal using neteller. Hahaha.
But this was what amazed me.

"I'm deeply sorry for that long time frame sir. However, that's the company policy to protect us and to protect our customer from being red flagged. Very sorry for that. We do have another method of withdrawal that is considerably faster, would you like to change the withdrawal method?"
I didn't ask about red flag thing, but I guess it's related to money laundering. Because betting company is tool for money launder to clean their money.

That response was great, if it's other company, the response would be identical like this :
"Our rule states bla bla bla bla. Would you like to cancel your request?"


That's what I mean as customer almost always right.

:smile:

So japguy bro,

If what you said is correct and 100% accurate.

Then I understand your point and know your feelings.

However I have to say, this is just one case/issue. It doesn't mean a shop going down hill and cheat customer $$$.
Yeah? Think about it.
:smile:

[Charlie123]

Well, ive never heard of anyone not getting a HJ in 501/532 ... This is sort of like visiting mcdonalds without being served a burger.

Anyway, Im sure david would have insisted coco go back into the room to finish part 2 if he had been there ... I think mico is more protective of the girls.

[beast1u]

Give you a tip - usually girls don't like to service guys that are from the same background. Indian girls don't like to service Indian guys, Japanese girls dont like Japanese guys, etc. The reason is because they're worried that you might know someone who knows someone who knows them...communities can be small like that.

Next time if a girl asks, just give her a bullshit answer.

[Travelmate]

Well, ive never heard of anyone not getting a HJ in 501/532 ... This is sort of like visiting mcdonalds without being served a burger.

Anyway, Im sure david would have insisted coco go back into the room to finish part 2 if he had been there ... I think mico is more protective of the girls.

I have experience at 501 not getting HJ ... but I was okay. The whole experience was good, massage was good ...
The beauty is, the ML gave me more next time I see her without asking...

[cisco]

Give you a tip - usually girls don't like to service guys that are from the same background. Indian girls don't like to service Indian guys, Japanese girls dont like Japanese guys, etc. The reason is because they're worried that you might know someone who knows someone who knows them...communities can be small like that.

Next time if a girl asks, just give her a bullshit answer.

This is so true,...and put the ``LOVE`` word at home when you go to punt,....

[Charlie123]

What about those asian girls at 5 star that only see asian customers?

[ozgp000]

Funny thing is i have heard a k-girl working in Juliet told me that she doesnt like koera customers at all which confuse me at that moment, but now i got an idea here...

[wilisno]

What about those asian girls at 5 star that only see asian customers?

What about it ? So you know it's nothing uncommon, it happens everywhere !

[Jj999]

What about those asian girls at 5 star that only see asian customers?

And what's the connection/similarities with this JapGuy problem?

Those girls didn't show themselves in the lineup if they knew the customer is not of their preference to see.
I believe it's called as right to choose.

Nobody has made an offer, so nobody can be angry.
Do the girls has made an offer to particular customer? No.

Even if they show themselves in the lineup, it's not called an offer, it's invitation to treat.
The offer happen when the customer ask the price, and the receptionist tell the price.

And the reception knows, who would see who.

[Travelmate]

And what's the connection/similarities with this JapGuy problem?

Those girls didn't show themselves in the lineup if they knew the customer is not of their preference to see.
I believe it's called as right to choose.

Nobody has made an offer, so nobody can be angry.
Do the girls has made an offer to particular customer? No.

Even if they show themselves in the lineup, it's not called an offer, it's invitation to treat.
The offer happen when the customer ask the price, and the receptionist tell the price.

And the reception knows, who would see who.

I agree with brother jj

[Charlie123]

Thats my point - there is no connection with japguys story

Another bro said WLs often tend not to want to see customers of the same race, for whatever reason

Im just pointing out this isnt the case in 5 star (and as wilisno points out, other places too) where WLs often choose to ONLY see customers from their own race.


And what's the connection/similarities with this JapGuy problem?

Those girls didn't show themselves in the lineup if they knew the customer is not of their preference to see.
I believe it's called as right to choose.

Nobody has made an offer, so nobody can be angry.
Do the girls has made an offer to particular customer? No.

Even if they show themselves in the lineup, it's not called an offer, it's invitation to treat.
The offer happen when the customer ask the price, and the receptionist tell the price.

And the reception knows, who would see who.

[Charlie123]

It doesnt happen everywhere at all, its rare.

But yeah, i have no problem with this at all. To the contrary, i support a lady's right to choose.


What about it ? So you know it's nothing uncommon, it happens everywhere !

[wilisno]

It doesnt happen everywhere at all, its rare.

But yeah, i have no problem with this at all. To the contrary, i support a lady's right to choose.

It's not rare, if you're a keen observer on this forum, you would have noticed most outcall girls are advertised as Asians only, that's a lot of agencies already ! And also, Aussie girl Amy, formerly of 130 Red Rose, declared she would see Asians only !

[Charlie123]

Well, i wasn't talking about amy from red rose, i was referring to WLs generally - the large majority do not refuse to see customers from particular races. Its rare for WLs to do this.

Also, yeah some agency do girls have an asians only policy, but I doubt 'most' do.

[wilisno]

Well, i wasn't talking about amy from red rose, i was referring to WLs generally - the large majority do not refuse to see customers from particular races. Its rare for WLs to do this.

Also, yeah some agency do girls have an asians only policy, but I doubt 'most' do.

Haha, Amy is a WL too ! True that it's not the majority, but it's not uncommon that's what I want to say. If you check Asian outcall agencies' websites, you would notice that there are a lot of Asians only girls !

And also, a lot of Korean girls don't want to see korean customers, Vietnamese girls avoid Vietnamese and so on !