Punting is getting f**king more expensive now

[goldengun]

I am not sure whether any bro notice, or just i am stingy, it seems that now punting is getting way too expensive.

Tiffany & friends charging $400 p/h, new sweet girl charging up to $600/h and in fact, some other agency that is not known in this forum (for whatever reason), is also charging that kind of money.

MOC has all brand girl only yesterday (i think). when it first came to market everyone was raving about its high prices ($300/h) but now it seems it is normal, or maybe even towards the lower end of today's market.

If you translate into HKD or YMB, that is really a lot for ordinary people. Even in Sydney high living standard that is still a lot of money. Unless you are a rich 2nd generation or lotto winner, otherwise i dont understand how can people afford it 2 times a week: $700x52=$36400 a year.

Are the girls really getting better that can command that sort of prices? I am not sure as I don't have the money to spend $400 for an hour on a girl who maximum i can get two shots only. I have visited some brand girl and seems to me not as good as the old day's one who charged $300/h, and in turn those $300/h I think a lot of them are not as good as 5* girl. Of course you may say that they are "part time" student and not a professional WL, however, some girls has been working for more than a year, isn't that similar to professional?

Simple economics, demand and supply. Supply seems remain the same or lower, then must be demand pushing the price up. this is just like everything in the world from luxury good and rental in HK and China to sydney house pricing. it seems that it is time for me to quit punting.

just my thought only,

[Littlewonder]

If you want value for money go to a $150 per hour shop they haven't changed their prices for years.

[cisco]

Yep, its time to slow down and even quit for a while , bit too much now....

[the wizard]

If you want value for money go to a $150 per hour shop they haven't changed their prices for years.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with that-

I can't see how you can justify paying $400 plus, those girls could not be offering anything different than what the others would.
They might be glamours, but hey that's the price of a weekend away.

There are lot's of beauties, great quality, and value for your hard earned dollars in the cheaper places -

If it gets too expensive I'll just stop or maybe go back to ad hoc punting.

[chandra_man1]

with the premium shops that charge 300 to 400 i have found them to be genuine 22 yo. so youth certainly commands a premium. thats just supply and demand. it dont mean you will the services are better than the $150 shops. if u want youth and 'fresh' then the premium shops arw the go. but sometimes in the normal shops u can also find some young ones. so if u think $400 is too expensive u still have shitload of choices. look at golden flower $200 on mon or tues.

[Gucci2012]

Ive been in this country 6 years...647 Elizabeth St has had the same prices from then and even way before i came to Australia, however i only go here for specialized services, young girls are at this shop sometime.

You want young girls with good service??? Ginza has always been consistant with out charging ridiculous prices for young girls, a very good business model is used by them which sees a revolving door of repeat customers.

I have 2 sources of income, one on the books, one off the books for straight up cash. My legit taxed money from my day job goes straight into my savings. So mainly live on my off the books money to pay bills and have fun/punt.

For example this week ive had three sessions at Ginza, 1 hour Prada $160, 30 min Erica $100, 2 hour Cassie $320 = $580 and im still laughing beacause i didnt even touch my pay from my day job yet. Then come Saturday morning(because i get my black money friday night) i have my usual routine of going to Comm Bank in Haymarket to deposit(minus $580) my off the books money.

Here i see lots of other people making deposits: Gamblers with there winnings, Wl's(some that i know) & Ml's with their earnings. Caution lots of junkies use this bank as well to get their $20 over draft its so depressing watching them, then i see them eyeing people making huge withdrawls(imagine huge stacks of green notes).

So punting is only expensive for the inexperienced, if you know where to spend and how to spend it you wont have a problem

[AHLUNGOR]

I am not sure whether any bro notice, or just i am stingy, it seems that now punting is getting way too expensive.

Tiffany & friends charging $400 p/h, new sweet girl charging up to $600/h and in fact, some other agency that is not known in this forum (for whatever reason), is also charging that kind of money.

MOC has all brand girl only yesterday (i think). when it first came to market everyone was raving about its high prices ($300/h) but now it seems it is normal, or maybe even towards the lower end of today's market.

If you translate into HKD or YMB, that is really a lot for ordinary people. Even in Sydney high living standard that is still a lot of money. Unless you are a rich 2nd generation or lotto winner, otherwise i dont understand how can people afford it 2 times a week: $700x52=$36400 a year.

Are the girls really getting better that can command that sort of prices? I am not sure as I don't have the money to spend $400 for an hour on a girl who maximum i can get two shots only. I have visited some brand girl and seems to me not as good as the old day's one who charged $300/h, and in turn those $300/h I think a lot of them are not as good as 5* girl. Of course you may say that they are "part time" student and not a professional WL, however, some girls has been working for more than a year, isn't that similar to professional?

Simple economics, demand and supply. Supply seems remain the same or lower, then must be demand pushing the price up. this is just like everything in the world from luxury good and rental in HK and China to sydney house pricing. it seems that it is time for me to quit punting.

just my thought only,

Well well well!!

I hate to say this, but i agree to most of your points, i certainly feeling the heats too, my weekly punting budget (for RnT mainly) used to be $100!

But in the past six months, i average spending two to three times that, still mainly massage and not much FS, may be I am getting too many favourite shops, so if i go to each shop once a week, i am going broke!!

Apart from jerking off by yourself, your punting cost (for one cum shot!) can range from the cheapest of $30/30 min with free HJ at 501 to say an average Asian outcall @$350/hr, no point talking about other more expensive deals.

And there are massive choices from $80 a shot to $150 so i think punters are very lucky in Sydney (not as lucky as dudes in Asia of course!) the only problem is not enough money!!

And this problem will never be solved!!

You just have to live with it and make smart and difficult choices: to punt or not to punt, cum today or cum next week ??

Cheers

[AHLUNGOR]

Become a shop writer, then! Get some freebies lol

Where do I apply ??

[ozgp000]

how do you know these girl in anency is pure uni student not the WL with $150/hour ?
Just my thoughts...you pay 400/h instead 150/hr

[goldengun]

with the premium shops that charge 300 to 400 i have found them to be genuine 22 yo. so youth certainly commands a premium. thats just supply and demand. it dont mean you will the services are better than the $150 shops. if u want youth and 'fresh' then the premium shops arw the go. but sometimes in the normal shops u can also find some young ones. so if u think $400 is too expensive u still have shitload of choices. look at golden flower $200 on mon or tues.

No that is not absolutely true. a lot of girl in 5* or other shops are younger than 25 y.o. And one of the agency I have been to, i wont name it as i dont want to damage anyone business, claiming the girl is 19 yo who actually is 25 yo. Nothing wrong with that as asian girls still look and feel young at that age, but still not "young" and "fresh" as they claim.

they also put photo on showing a slim looking face girl but actually is a water bucket or cyclinder body, short and round and they are charging $300 an hour!!. i would not pick her up if she is in 5*. I still went for it as i pay for the room already and actually it turns out she does very good servcies, but still doesnt worth the $$.

[goldengun]

how do you know these girl in anency is pure uni student not the WL with $150/hour ?
Just my thoughts...you pay 400/h instead 150/hr

that is true. some shop put a girl at different place and charge premium on it.

[the wizard]

Some of the younger girls just want fast money, tour around Australia or the world and have no hangups fucking anyone young, old, handsome, ugly.
It's a means to an end, then they move on- they won't necessary become a wl or stay in the business.
To them there is little stigma in doing this kind of work and this could be due to cultural/social upbringing and their attitude to sex.

And some can command prices from $150-600 depending on where they work.
If I can get them at the cheaper end of the scale - And I know I can- without compromising the quality, then good for me.
It just means I can afford more and longer punts with the girls.

[AHLUNGOR]

I think punters these days are smarter and very well informed thanks to public forum such as these, if you do a bit of search and shop around, you should get your money worth and wont go too far off the track.

Having said that, i will be most upset if i paid $350-$400/hr and turn out she is no better than a 5 Star girl.

Also the key is at 5 Star i can still get 30 min session for $150 vs in outcall agency its min 1 hr so it push up the cost per punt. Not that much difference for those brothers who usually pay $280/hr at 5 star anyway.

I guess i am lucky as i usually go for RnT only and the price variation is not that great. And if i stick with my favourites there will be no risk at all.

But i am very easy to please......haha

Cheers

[ozgp000]

I think punters these days are smarter and very well informed thanks to public forum such as these, if you do a bit of search and shop around, you should get your money worth and wont go too far off the track.

Having said that, i will be most upset if i paid $350-$400/hr and turn out she is no better than a 5 Star girl.

Also the key is at 5 Star i can still get 30 min session for $150 vs in outcall agency its min 1 hr so it push up the cost per punt. Not that much difference for those brothers who usually pay $280/hr at 5 star anyway.

I guess i am lucky as i usually go for RnT only and the price variation is not that great. And if i stick with my favourites there will be no risk at all.

But i am very easy to please......haha

Cheers

The same as me, all i need is a natual big boobs and a magic hand ...you know that, bro AHLUNGOR, do you?
For most ordinary people, we have to budget our punting funds, for less money to get more happy
I hope that i can win the Oz lot next Tues...70 million~~

[guān liáo]

Earlier this year i was spending min. $400 per week punting.

But then in august I spent a few weeks in thailand whoring it up big time.

Now, when im tempted to spend $100 at a massage shop, or $250 for fs, a little voice in my head says 'are you really sure you want to do that Bro charlie - that money would pay for 2/3/4 FULL DAYS with an 18 y/o thai girl, who would be more than happy to fulfil ever sorded fantasy you have, and then fetch you a beer afterwards.

Puts things in perspective yo. Im now down to 1 massage a week and am busily saving for my next pilgrimage to the golden streets of bangkok (december)

[chandra_man1]

how much do you spend all up in your thai trip ? please include accomodation and air?

[AHLUNGOR]

Earlier this year i was spending min. $400 per week punting.

But then in august I spent a few weeks in thailand whoring it up big time.

Now, when im tempted to spend $100 at a massage shop, or $250 for fs, a little voice in my head says 'are you really sure you want to do that Bro charlie - that money would pay for 2/3/4 FULL DAYS with an 18 y/o thai girl, who would be more than happy to fulfil ever sorded fantasy you have, and then fetch you a beer afterwards.

Puts things in perspective yo. Im now down to 1 massage a week and am busily saving for my next pilgrimage to the golden streets of bangkok (december)

Very smart and lucky guy brother Charlie. Do it and enjoy it while you can - and still single. We married mortals can only watch and envy !!

Cheers

:cool2:

[guān liáo]

Cost ... Airfare $1100 return, accom (very good clean western style hotel in middle of red light district) $50-60 a night in bangkok, was $27 a night in chiang mai Rydges, food - $5-8 for a restaurant meal, girls - $90 a night bangkok (for the prettiest young bar girls - if you want same girl for a couple of days that price gets you the girl for 24 hours, $60 for same in chiang mai ... Everything is very cheap. I took 4 girls out to an exclusive riverfront club in chiang mai ... The girls guzzled whisky all night, ordered lots and lots of food and made many song requests from the band ... I picked up the tab for the evening - was $45 lol

[DeepImpact]

Of course you may say that they are "part time" student and not a professional WL, however, some girls has been working for more than a year, isn't that similar to professional?




I agree with this point entirely. I think that anything more than a couple of months being a WL regardless of the hours doesn't make her new and fresh anymore if I am paying for a girl that is supposed to be new. If they work full time or part time they are still a WL, it doesn't matter what they do with the rest of their time.

[8inches]

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Check this out if you want some sex buddy action.

[crazy4thai]

Cost ... Airfare $1100 return, accom (very good clean western style hotel in middle of red light district) $50-60 a night in bangkok, was $27 a night in chiang mai Rydges, food - $5-8 for a restaurant meal, girls - $90 a night bangkok (for the prettiest young bar girls - if you want same girl for a couple of days that price gets you the girl for 24 hours, $60 for same in chiang mai ... Everything is very cheap. I took 4 girls out to an exclusive riverfront club in chiang mai ... The girls guzzled whisky all night, ordered lots and lots of food and made many song requests from the band ... I picked up the tab for the evening - was $45 lol

Totally agree on your price calculation but just need execuse to get away. Fuck.....

I will never understand why you guys would pay $400 for a fuck There is only two situation here 1 you get a pro pretented to be shy little girl which means yo got conned or you actually get a non professional which in my experience not much fun. Not to mention cant see the girl before the session which is a sure no no for me. God I love sex141.

I dont fwwl punting more expensive, you just have to be smarter about it. All the 85-100 per half hour joins has many good stuff there. Dont wate your money with these agents, bunch of cons.

[project_manager006]

And I am sure at least one bro here has been affected, or knows someone affected by, the recession.

[bill_100]

Everyone is being affected by the recession, so the privates who are putting up their prices will lose business. Most Asian shops have maintained their prices and in some cases reduced them due to the drop in business. Well managed Asian shops have good girls who provide excellent service so one would be mad to pay high prices and get average to poor service.

[goldengun]

And I am sure at least one bro here has been affected, or knows someone affected by, the recession.

well i am sure i am not the one affected. however, i just dont feel comfortable to pay that much higher price without increase in quality. most of the time you can get the same quality with much lower price in normal shop but because of their marketing you pay that premium. in fact some time i feel like cheated as the quality is really low.

[guān liáo]

When middle-class guys like us consider spending $200, $300 or $400 on a WL we weigh up certain factors such as their youth, beauty and sexual performance.

When people with serious money punt these attributes are also of value, but they are also interested in other equally important things, such as exclusivity, discretion and sophistication - and they are willing to pay a substantial premium to receive them.

When you pay $350 to drill some girl at 5* you take it for granted that she's just finished being fucked silly by some other guy. When you cough up $2000 for time with an elite escort you can be reasonably certain you are her first or second client of the day.

When you spend $160 in a suburban brothel to pound the asshole of some leathery MILF you shouldnt be suprised when she shares every small detail of the encounter with other WLs and customers. When you pay $2500 with a high-class call girl you have a reasonable expectation of absolute privacy and confidentiality.

When you spend $100 to plough some young broad at a chinese massage shop you listen with a wry smile when she blathers on about the cost of her new gucci handbag and fake acrylic nails. When you spend $3500 on a courtesan for the evening you can expect discuss world cinema and current events.

[AHLUNGOR]

When middle-class guys like us consider spending $200, $300 or $400 on a WL we weigh up certain factors such as their youth, beauty and sexual performance.

When people with serious money punt these attributes are also of value, but they are also interested in other equally important things, such as exclusivity, discretion and sophistication - and they are willing to pay a substantial premium to receive them.

When you pay $350 to drill some girl at 5* you take it for granted that she's just finished being fucked silly by some other guy. When you cough up $2000 for time with an elite escort you can be reasonably certain you are her first or second client of the day.

When you spend $160 in a suburban brothel to pound the asshole of some leathery MILF you shouldnt be suprised when she shares every small detail of the encounter with other WLs and customers. When you pay $2500 with a high-class call girl you have a reasonable expectation of absolute privacy and confidentiality.

When you spend $100 to plough some young broad at a chinese massage shop you listen with a wry smile when she blathers on about the cost of her new gucci handbag and fake acrylic nails. When you spend $3500 on a courtesan for the evening you can expect discuss world cinema and current events.

Hi brother Charlie,

If you are interested in some expert opinions on world cinema and current local and world event, you dont have to spend $3,500/hr, just buy me a beer at the pub and i can assure you with some inspiring conversations, then just walk down to one of my favourite shops and spend another $160 or so and your other animal needs will be satisfied, not a 5 star experience, just a three star perhaps

Cheers

[guān liáo]

haha, I will take you up on that offer!

[lonewolf77]

I agree with going to thailand. Thats what i try to do at least twice a year, so much better value than punting in sydney. You can get sale fares for around 200-300$ each way, hence around 400-600$ return. Accommodation - I get the best room i can find which is a massive room with separate jacuzzi room and a Super King Bed. If you guys dont know what that is its the biggest bed i have ever been able to find. Its 2m by 2m basically. I pay about 70$ per night for that, walking distance to all the action. Then the girls for over night stays are like 50-60$ and thats for glamours who are around 22yrs etc. The experience / GFE that they give is far better than what i generally find down here. The food is cheap and awesome. I mean considering how much money punting can end up costing for a good young girl down here......

[AHLUNGOR]

Haha, no question you single brothers can always go to Thailand/China etc and get all the pussies you want in the periods you can afford to be away.

But you still got to work, so two x 2 weeks annual leave a year!

What are you gonna do in the other 48 weeks in here, you still have needs, at least once a week may be and then save up every other dollar!!

[herecticx]

damn last time i went to bangkok (2011)

soi cowboy & nana plaza

standard prices ALL UP incl. drinks, club entry, barfine, short stay hotel,
was still around $120AUD
and this was for short stay
did i do something wrong ? :(

[kctt]

Same experience as herecticx.
I went to bangkok 5 years ago i remember i paid around $100aud for short time 1-2hours
Has the price gone down or aud value is up?

The first girl i picked up in a bar in nana plaza has lazy attitude, just want to finish quickly.
The second girl is younger maybe 18yo and kind a rape me. She rided on top but i could not keep up with her as i was tired after long trip through a few asian countries. When i lost erection, she helped little boy get up then continue riding, and just repeat the same routine haha

[lonewolf77]

Same experience as herecticx.
I went to bangkok 5 years ago i remember i paid around $100aud for short time 1-2hours
Has the price gone down or aud value is up?

The first girl i picked up in a bar in nana plaza has lazy attitude, just want to finish quickly.
The second girl is younger maybe 18yo and kind a rape me. She rided on top but i could not keep up with her as i was tired after long trip through a few asian countries. When i lost erection, she helped little boy get up then continue riding, and just repeat the same routine haha

It probably depends on where you go and also on the girls themselves. I try to pick up girls that i like but who are also into me as then they give a good price and are more into it. Its more like a pickup / GFE than a WL. Thats the best part of thailand in my opinion, most girls are still after a GFE / BFE rather than just being a WL / hooker. So they still pick generally the guys they want, at times towards the end of the night if they are really after some dough then they might go home with anyone At the right price. But if the price is high then generally it means they arent that into you. There have been quite a few times where i have never had to pay a girl but i will see her again and pay extra to make up for it as i feel bad knowing that she does need money too but sometimes they arent after cash they are just into you.

[guān liáo]

Well, keep in mind the AUD$ is worth around 25% more than it was 5 years ago, so what cost $100 back then only costs $75 today.

I spent time with plenty of ladies in nana, price was always the same - $60 shortime (2 hours or so), $90 longtime (all night, up to 24 hours) ... I suspect this price was negotiable, but i never bothered.

As i say, its much cheaper in chiang mai and pattaya.

Btw ahlungor - ive taken 9 weeks leave this year already and still have almost 6 months paid leave remaining.

[AHLUNGOR]

Well, keep in mind the AUD$ is worth around 25% more than it was 5 years ago, so what cost $100 back then only costs $75 today.

I spent time with plenty of ladies in nana, price was always the same - $60 shortime (2 hours or so), $90 longtime (all night, up to 24 hours) ... I suspect this price was negotiable, but i never bothered.

As i say, its much cheaper in chiang mai and pattaya.

Btw ahlungor - ive taken 9 weeks leave this year already and still have almost 6 months paid leave remaining.

Six months unused annual leave!!!

You are one lucky son of a gun!!

You can probably just live off your 17.5% leave loading over there......haha

Any regret all those money you spent on your previous "project" girl?? You could have flied to Pattaya for a week, fuck a hot pussy everynight and do all the things you wanted to do to "Her" and come back with an empty balls but wallet still half full.......sorry, just joking!!

Plenty of time to catch up though

Cheers

[TheTiger]

The simple solution is don't pay for expensive punts.

[guān liáo]

No regrets - I still think chinese girls are the most beautiful in the world, and both my project girls were particularly stunning and lovely ladies.

For me the best thing about thailand was not having to worry about the clock all the time. In australia you book a WL and every minute is precious and you spend half the time looking at your watch. Over there its just not an issue, book a girl for 'a couple of hours' or 'a day', whatever. Everything is more relaxed and not rushed at all. Plenty of time to chat first, eat, grab a drink afterwards etc.

[DeepImpact]

When middle-class guys like us consider spending $200, $300 or $400 on a WL we weigh up certain factors such as their youth, beauty and sexual performance.

When people with serious money punt these attributes are also of value, but they are also interested in other equally important things, such as exclusivity, discretion and sophistication - and they are willing to pay a substantial premium to receive them.

When you pay $350 to drill some girl at 5* you take it for granted that she's just finished being fucked silly by some other guy. When you cough up $2000 for time with an elite escort you can be reasonably certain you are her first or second client of the day.

When you spend $160 in a suburban brothel to pound the asshole of some leathery MILF you shouldnt be suprised when she shares every small detail of the encounter with other WLs and customers. When you pay $2500 with a high-class call girl you have a reasonable expectation of absolute privacy and confidentiality.

When you spend $100 to plough some young broad at a chinese massage shop you listen with a wry smile when she blathers on about the cost of her new gucci handbag and fake acrylic nails. When you spend $3500 on a courtesan for the evening you can expect discuss world cinema and current events.

That's quite some theory that you have there. The $3,500 girl doesn't guarantee an intelligent girl in the IQ sense but maybe her sexual IQ if there is such a thing will be very high. She is going to have to be super hot looking and top quality between the sheets regardless of what is between her ears.

[guān liáo]

I didnt mention intelligence - just sophistication.

[DeepImpact]

haha, I think I want both intelligence and sophistication for that amount or as a minimum for her to be smarter than me!!!

[herecticx]

wow you are two ^ complicated gentlemen.

hehe

[bill_100]

My two bobs worth.

There are genuine Asian Uni female students who help fund their living expenses by working in shops @ $150 per hour. I always ask them what they are studying and then quizz them about the course, content and institution which allowed me to sort the liars out. I am university trained, have an internation experience in Asia and other regions so I can suss out the fakers.

Norman St Peakhurst (prior to being shut by the L&E Court and Electricity supplier, had most of the girls who were really Uni student and it include doctors in their own country but not recognised here so were studying a relevant related science or nursing. These girls were intelligent, had reasonable English skills and it was easy to have intelligent conversations. A lot also studied commerce or finance and came from educated families themselves.

They were not the country girls sent down to help support their families.

Of course we are really looking for a good experince but have an intelligent girl makes it so much better IMHO.

And yes they work in $150/hr shops too!