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project_manager006
05-11-2012, 08:03 PM
Occasionally, here and there, the casino would be mentioned, so I just thought I'd create one thread where all thoughts could be gathered.

So, which bros are regular casino punters? Care to share your story?

I got into it around 2008 when my friend took me there. In hindsight that was a big mistake. I won $30 in sic bo and the thrill began there. I somehow got into playing roulette. For sometime, I thought it was easy money, but the big losses started accruing. Over the years, I eventually went into debt...not sure exact figure, but I reckon I lost about $20k. This included losing my bankroll, then thinking "fuck it" and withdrawing more cash for a punt at a shop. Funnily enough, when I won, I wouldn't want to visit a shop because I didn't want to 'waste' my winnings.

I stopped gambling for a year which helped me recover financially, but started again after that. However, this time the addiction is not as bad, or deep. Instead of chasing big wins, I tell myself to be satisfied with a 10-20% return on my bankroll, and I leave. My friend said casinos hate people who hit and run, so I guess they hate me.

Since I have re-started gambling, I have probably made a slight profit. I still play roulette, but I guess with more self control, which is the main difference. I am also trying to quit, because deep down I know it is a dirty habit which will slowly kill me (house edge always wins).

Potluck2.0
05-11-2012, 09:55 PM
I share your pain pm006. My pokie addiction is getting worse and worse ironically because I've been winning small amounts regularly like 100-200 here and there. Sometimes I win big, sometimes I lose big.

My problem is I'm really hooked so much so that I stoppedpunting lately because I'd rather put 100 in a machene than get a root. If I win, then the thrill is enough and I don't feel need to punt. Because as u say I better save the winnings as bankroll for next gamble

HookedonHookerz
05-11-2012, 10:08 PM
we are all just after the thrills. if there was no risk, there would be no thrills. Enjoy it I say, you only live once.

reve
05-11-2012, 10:12 PM
I rarely go but only bring few hundred if I do. No big deal if I lost but I will leave most time when I double the money. On some occassion I tripple or quadral my money. I alway spend all my winning to rewards myself. Never used the winning for a punt only because I start punting this year and thats right I haven't set foot in star city this year.

stevodog
05-11-2012, 10:30 PM
with the casino and also the pokies is once you win $200 or $300 you get out quick and don,t come back the next day.Also don,t drink when gambling.I have won plenty of times and lost it by not cashing in.

GWEILO
05-11-2012, 11:49 PM
I know a rich guy that gambles all the time, he wins big and loses big but somehow manages to keep gambling. I'm thinking his parents must be cashed up or something because he doesn't seem to work or do anything.

icegel
06-11-2012, 12:13 AM
Are there any advices for us ... How to win the casino and how to control yourself to stop and run away until next visit ... Thanks bros

suka02
06-11-2012, 12:13 AM
my suggestion is stay SAFE.. i play roulette my budget for gambling is $100 once every month. I have my controls in gambling, dont play with huge money it will kill you if you lose then you start wanting a revenge to get it all back. with $100 start playing with a low bet $2 then make your way up to $5-$20 if you gained something. You'll easily win yourself double win. At the end its worth the punt money afterwards lol

IExperiment
06-11-2012, 12:22 AM
Occasionally, here and there, the casino would be mentioned, so I just thought I'd create one thread where all thoughts could be gathered.

So, which bros are regular casino punters? Care to share your story?

I got into it around 2008 when my friend took me there. In hindsight that was a big mistake. I won $30 in sic bo and the thrill began there. I somehow got into playing roulette. For sometime, I thought it was easy money, but the big losses started accruing. Over the years, I eventually went into debt...not sure exact figure, but I reckon I lost about $20k. This included losing my bankroll, then thinking "fuck it" and withdrawing more cash for a punt at a shop. Funnily enough, when I won, I wouldn't want to visit a shop because I didn't want to 'waste' my winnings.

I stopped gambling for a year which helped me recover financially, but started again after that. However, this time the addiction is not as bad, or deep. Instead of chasing big wins, I tell myself to be satisfied with a 10-20% return on my bankroll, and I leave. My friend said casinos hate people who hit and run, so I guess they hate me.

Since I have re-started gambling, I have probably made a slight profit. I still play roulette, but I guess with more self control, which is the main difference. I am also trying to quit, because deep down I know it is a dirty habit which will slowly kill me (house edge always wins).

I say I lost a couple 100K to them in the past :) live and learn. They are the house they will never loose. It was fun to win free money but once you started winning big 10K is minimum walk out for me which was a mistake to be a good gambler you must walk out even if you win $25 green chip :)

IExperiment
06-11-2012, 01:00 AM
Mi Goreng where are you?? your an ex gambler give some insight to other punters.

cuimd2
06-11-2012, 01:50 AM
omg i totally have the same feeling when i have winnings, i dunt want to waste it on punting!, usually before i start gambling i say, ok if i win something good i'll have a punt at a shop, but when i do win, i say man i should save it and not waste the winnings like that, then when i lose i say damm im in a shit mood i need a punt so i withdraw cash from bank.

project_manager006
06-11-2012, 06:59 AM
Are there any advices for us ... How to win the casino and how to control yourself to stop and run away until next visit ... Thanks bros

Bro I would love to give you some tips, cause this was my main downfall in hindsight.

Like IExperiment said, leave even if you are up by only $25. Why? Because the alternative is you can walk out minus $1000.

For me, I really started to gain an appreciation of money when I was in debt. I finally realised how hard it was to be 'given' money, and how easy it was for others to take it from me. It was easy for the casino, and it was easy for my credit card company, which not only imposed extremely high interest rate, but also stupid and useless transaction fees.

I thought, it is so easy for casino to take our $5, but if we asked them for $5, do you think they will give it to you? NO! So you need to really appreciate what you have achieved when you have managed to wrangle $5 away from the hands of the casino - DO NOT GIVE IT BACK.

Also, when you are in the middle of the game and are up $200, you might think, so little money, so keep playing. But $200 could feed you for a week, maybe a fortnight. And again, what is the alternative? You walk out with nothing. I'm sure you know that shitty feeling as you walk out of the casino, wondering why the hell you came in the first place. Capture that feeling and remind yourself how it feels next time you are up and thinking of continuing.

I hope this helps. Maybe I can give a more coherent response when I have not just woken up...

icegel
06-11-2012, 08:41 AM
Bro I would love to give you some tips, cause this was my main downfall in hindsight.

Like IExperiment said, leave even if you are up by only $25. Why? Because the alternative is you can walk out minus $1000.

For me, I really started to gain an appreciation of money when I was in debt. I finally realised how hard it was to be 'given' money, and how easy it was for others to take it from me. It was easy for the casino, and it was easy for my credit card company, which not only imposed extremely high interest rate, but also stupid and useless transaction fees.

I thought, it is so easy for casino to take our $5, but if we asked them for $5, do you think they will give it to you? NO! So you need to really appreciate what you have achieved when you have managed to wrangle $5 away from the hands of the casino - DO NOT GIVE IT BACK.

Also, when you are in the middle of the game and are up $200, you might think, so little money, so keep playing. But $200 could feed you for a week, maybe a fortnight. And again, what is the alternative? You walk out with nothing. I'm sure you know that shitty feeling as you walk out of the casino, wondering why the hell you came in the first place. Capture that feeling and remind yourself how it feels next time you are up and thinking of continuing.

I hope this helps. Maybe I can give a more coherent response when I have not just woken up...



Thanks bro, i hope this help me and other broa out there, among us all the bro in the forum, do we have any more success stories that ... Winning with the casino


Thanks all

AHLUNGOR
06-11-2012, 08:56 AM
Thanks bro, i hope this help me and other broa out there, among us all the bro in the forum, do we have any more success stories that ... Winning with the casino


Thanks all

hi Brother,

What a day to bring up the casino thread, when hundreds of millions will be bet in the Cup and the Oz Lotto tonight!!

Winning stories at the casino......haha i have plenty, but for every $1,000 i won and walked away with, i probably dropped 10 times more in the next few days!!

How many times i walked away from the casino with no money left in my wallet and all the credit cards, ATM cards were max out. Its a long, sad and lonely ride home on the train, and so much regrets and disappointments and hate against myself......!!

I have stopped going to the Star City since 2007!! Thank God for that! I still visited casinos when i was inter states but those one off damages were usually ok vs 6 days a week after work when i was a gambling addict before!

Trust me, if you dont go, you are a winner already!!

Just my $$$,$$$ worth of opinions

Cheers

Potluck2.0
06-11-2012, 10:39 AM
thanks for sharing the sobering stories, I was fearing that I was getting sucked in with no way out - betting bigger and bigger each day, can lose up to 500 but the next day win 700 then lose 400 then win 500 then lose 700 etc etc I actually considered stopping many times after a big loss but couldn't handle it and went back and got very very luck with a big win each time off very small gamble doing stupid things like gambling red/black 3x in a row to go from 50 feature win to 400 cos I'm desperate. people standing around me think i'm crazy and big balls but in reality just lucky and desperate. You guys are giving me some perspective of where shit can go wrong...

I'm getting up to the point where winning is not even fun or exciting anymore, I just expect to win to stay feeling normal but if I lose or don't gamble at all I get very restless. The only good thing is that my gambling addiction really put a stop to my punting addiction, before this I punted 3 days in a row and it wasn't exciting either except for the final punt where i had gfe FS experience at a massage shop for 80 all inclusive.

handbanana
06-11-2012, 10:49 AM
I hate the casino because i find it depressing. That being said when i have gambled there i have usually won playing blackjack mainly. Im only a small time gambler, just a few hundred is my max limit.

Licker
06-11-2012, 01:12 PM
I never gamble where I live - keeps the wallet full (well, half full anyway as the other half is spent on Asian cuties).

I made a pact with myself a few years ago. I only gamble in Vegas.
Been there seven times since and I have a set gambling budget when I go.
Twice I've left with more money in pocket than going in. Other times it's been money gone, but a lot of good times had.

project_manager006
06-11-2012, 10:07 PM
Sorry, just wanted to preface my earlier posts - I am in no way encouraging gambling. In fact, I think introducing your non-gambling friends to the casino is the worst thing you could do to them. I would only save that for my worst enemy, and maybe not even that.

However, if you must gamble, then I'd stress extreme self control. I learned this the hard way. Everything in the casino is designed to help you lose self control, so you must fight it at every moment - be conscious, be wary, and be sober.

Mi Goreng
07-11-2012, 01:15 AM
Such a long time not posting but everyone is sharing in this thread , so I guess it's time i should share a bit of my personal experience with bros' here ...

Well I stopped gambling after I came back from my holidays in malaysia , used to gamble for a living , not the best way as its not something proud and not something worth talking about .. I gamble cause I think I could change my future and living standards, yes it did , I was bringing 10k per session , walking away mostly 1k is my target , yes sometimes I lost like a good 5-8k just to win $500 , arh it's sounds silly but that's the world of gambling ... U can win $1k in 5 minutes , in return , also I can lost $10k within half an hour ... So it's common ...

I quit gambling now and is looking for something small to do , planning to do a small business of selling food , but starting capital is too high and I can't afford it , well it's life , maybe I'm just waiting for the correct guy to partner or able to be my boss to start a business , after all I'm new in the industry and have a veteran in doing business ...

Once a girl told me , to be with a gambler is rather to be with a pauper , at least she don't have fake hopes from you , this is what hurt me and changes my attitude on gambling ...

My record , starting with a capital of $5k , my biggest capital increases to $150k , but I also lost myself, lost nearly 100k then I stopped.. Biggest wining in a time, in GENTING malaysia , brought aud1k won 15k in half an hour with my aunt ... In the end gave the money away to my grandma and mom ...

Now .. Just a very very normal life doing not much at the moment ... Waiting for chances ...

Good night guys, hope u enjoy my stupid story , not punting a lot , just a few times with 1-2 regulars ...

BBBJ
07-11-2012, 02:05 AM
Gambling is a vice, like hard drug, one of the greatest social levellers, we face. Punters hooked on gambling and drugs end up the same (if not worse), than a junkie, homeless dude on the street.....WITH NOTHING!
Best to stick to punting ML and WL's as this is money better spent!
Actually, there's a burger place at Star City that sells hot chips for $6 (highway robbery), but better spend your hard earned there than inside (best chips in Sydney!).

IExperiment
07-11-2012, 02:42 AM
Such a long time not posting but everyone is sharing in this thread , so I guess it's time i should share a bit of my personal experience with bros' here ...

Well I stopped gambling after I came back from my holidays in malaysia , used to gamble for a living , not the best way as its not something proud and not something worth talking about .. I gamble cause I think I could change my future and living standards, yes it did , I was bringing 10k per session , walking away mostly 1k is my target , yes sometimes I lost like a good 5-8k just to win $500 , arh it's sounds silly but that's the world of gambling ... U can win $1k in 5 minutes , in return , also I can lost $10k within half an hour ... So it's common ...

I quit gambling now and is looking for something small to do , planning to do a small business of selling food , but starting capital is too high and I can't afford it , well it's life , maybe I'm just waiting for the correct guy to partner or able to be my boss to start a business , after all I'm new in the industry and have a veteran in doing business ...

Once a girl told me , to be with a gambler is rather to be with a pauper , at least she don't have fake hopes from you , this is what hurt me and changes my attitude on gambling ...

My record , starting with a capital of $5k , my biggest capital increases to $150k , but I also lost myself, lost nearly 100k then I stopped.. Biggest wining in a time, in GENTING malaysia , brought aud1k won 15k in half an hour with my aunt ... In the end gave the money away to my grandma and mom ...

Now .. Just a very very normal life doing not much at the moment ... Waiting for chances ...

Good night guys, hope u enjoy my stupid story , not punting a lot , just a few times with 1-2 regulars ...

Well done Mi thats gambling for you and most will not encourage about it as it is a thrill but can be very expensive :) quit when your ahead thats the reason when I say even you win $25 it is better than loosing what ever you bring. Once I was never satisfied winning under 5K one incident I already won 3.5K so at the end I gave all back + my 5K this occur so many times with different amount another lesson learn :) the house always win at the end. Also if you gamble frequently most of you will know about quick winning and slow winning and same with loosing :) when your on a winning streak bet big and clean the banker :) but remember to walk away be happy with what you can take home this is always the hard part :) I dont gamble often I only goes once a week or once every two weeks and sometimes months.

GWEILO
07-11-2012, 10:37 AM
To partner with you Mi Goreng you need to tell us what your skills are, capital is easy to find as I have a few rich friends that are always looking to invest. They will also look at you up and down and find out what kind of character you are, they are very good at figuring people out. Since this is a casino thread can we please talk about ways to beat the house, I've done a couple of systems like Martingale where you double up when you lose etc but those are ineffective after a while, I've developed some hybrid systems where you back the last winning banker or player. This last systems seems to work really well for tables that don't ping pong a lot.

DarkZero01
07-11-2012, 11:49 AM
To partner with you Mi Goreng you need to tell us what your skills are, capital is easy to find as I have a few rich friends that are always looking to invest. They will also look at you up and down and find out what kind of character you are, they are very good at figuring people out. Since this is a casino thread can we please talk about ways to beat the house, I've done a couple of systems like Martingale where you double up when you lose etc but those are ineffective after a while, I've developed some hybrid systems where you back the last winning banker or player. This last systems seems to work really well for tables that don't ping pong a lot.

Do u mind to sharing your hybrid system?
Anyway I go I casino probably once a month and invest 200 oz dollars into table for baccarat or blackjack. Most of the time I can win extra 200 dollars but since i am greedy I normally lose it all or otherwise I am very lucky I win up to $1000 and hen leave. Still we should gamble only for fun not to the extreme where u lose 5k+.
I am just wondering is there a quicker way to upgrade your membership I silver member besides giving your card to the dealer all the time.

Richboy
08-11-2012, 09:45 AM
Quick rule:
1. Don't go.
2. If its a must, don't stay too long whether you win or not.
3. Bring only what you are prepared to loose. Don't bring any cards.
NB. The probability and fung sui maze is against us.

AHLUNGOR
08-11-2012, 10:47 AM
Gambling is an addiction, no sugar coating about it. For every successful winner, there are thousands of losers.

Just look at the profits the Casinos made every year. The only other sure winner in the Casino business apart from the casino is the state government with all the gaming tax!

But damn it, it was fun and when you are on a winning row, the thrill is in deed better than sex, and sex is much much cheaper, when was the last time you heard people max out on his credit cards due to paid sex??

I can tell you all a thousand true stories on how to lose money and they are all very sad and painful and the trouble is, the losing history keep repeating it self time and time again, and you could walk away from the casino 10 times and not once you take home some winning, you can set all the rules and bring no credit cards, but that ususally just delay the inevitables.

On a happier note, I did experienced some winning sessions and believe me, there is no systems, and I do think I never win big because I was discipline or stick to my plan or has some lucky charm with me, it was pure luck and when luck is on your side, you just win, as simple as that, some people has better luck than the others, some people has good luck once in a while and some people has no luck at all. And I think I was probably one of those who has some luck once in a blue moon, but my little luck usually come when I only have a very small bank and when my very rare luck drives me to say $1,000 or $2,000 ahead, I would have been too scare to continue because so many times before I went on and gave it all back. So you never know when your luck will come, when it will end, totally shoot in the dark I guess.

So to sum up, if you dont go to casino, you are a winner already.

Just my 2 cents

Cheers

PS. I have an I.Q. question for everyone, how can you pay back $100,000 in debts (spread across 12 maxed out credit cards!!), without winning big in the Casino and nothing from the lottery ??

Declaring bankcrupcy is Not the answer !!

Sillyboy
08-11-2012, 12:43 PM
I've successfully gambled to generate secondary income whilst i kept my business running.

Whilst the odds favor the house, we are able to beat them if you play smart. First is have a sufficient bankroll so you can absorb the highs and lows. Too many people just bring their few hundred dollars and think if they lose it, then that's it. If they win, they're happy. But no discipline in it. Having a bankroll means you treat it like a job and with discipline. It doesn't mean you blow your entire roll in one night but you put a budget plan in place and learn to walk away when you hit your stop loss. And if you are winning, then don't go for the jugular and double up with large amounts. When at beginning, low double amounts is fine but if you get on a roll, then you need to start banking the wins to your bankroll and not put them at risk. Bank the profit!

When you are winning, then you ride that wave until you hit a few losses but vary your betting amount to lessen the exposure. Once momentum is lost, then you need to have the discipline to walk away when you are up rather than be greedy and think you gonna win it back. Just walk away and take the nights winnings and come back next time. Easier said than done but in my years of experience, I walked away with good money more times rather than the few times when I kept going without discipline and just lost everything as gambling losses plays on your mind

Sillyboy
08-11-2012, 12:50 PM
There are certain games in the casino where the odds are so much in favour for them such as their Texas Hold Em table game, Caribbean Stud ect... Even roulette is pointless unless you outlay enough numbers. No point to go for the 35/1 shot in just a couple of numbers so u need to cover your bets across but higher risk to lose all.

What you want to play are games where they are closer to a flip so games like baccarat, black jack are easy although the odds are still slightly favoring the house. If you are gonna play games like roulette, sic bo then make sure you cover your bets across the table to give you sufficient chance to win i.e close to half the table but place a few bigger bets on certain numbers. The idea is the try and recover your costs with your other bets and hope to hit it big on the 4-5 bigger bets. Always look towards your bankroll or what you brought in for the aession and don't wager all of it. You want at least 4-5 shots at this so even if you lose 3 times in a row, if you hit your fourth, you still in business. That's why you got to have sufficient bankroll.

Sillyboy
08-11-2012, 12:56 PM
Finally gambling is a numbers game. Take the emotion out of it and look at it objectively. Too many people just remember their one big win and think they can replicate it or there are those on the other side that just keep losing and don't know why.

There is no free lunch so winning is not easy. You have to have discipline to win and beat the house and it comes back to your mentality. The ones who keep losing have generally lost their minds when losing so they keep wagering in hope but have no discipline to stop. The smart ones are able to wear the highs and lows and maximize your wins for the day & minimize your losses.

Track your record so you know how you going. I know that I win about 50% of the time in actual times going to the casino but I am well ahead in $ profit as each session I go I really capitalize on when I am on a winning run and in the losing sessions, I minimize my loss by ensuring a stop loss means I go home for the night and live to fight another day.

AHLUNGOR
08-11-2012, 01:23 PM
Finally gambling is a numbers game. Take the emotion out of it and look at it objectively. Too many people just remember their one big win and think they can replicate it or there are those on the other side that just keep losing and don't know why.

There is no free lunch so winning is not easy. You have to have discipline to win and beat the house and it comes back to your mentality. The ones who keep losing have generally lost their minds when losing so they keep wagering in hope but have no discipline to stop. The smart ones are able to wear the highs and lows and maximize your wins for the day & minimize your losses.

Track your record so you know how you going. I know that I win about 50% of the time in actual times going to the casino but I am well ahead in $ profit as each session I go I really capitalize on when I am on a winning run and in the losing sessions, I minimize my loss by ensuring a stop loss means I go home for the night and live to fight another day.

Very good points there Sillyboy, may be we should call you winnyboy instead.

I agree to everything you said and I think I know most of the discipline and self control and rules and safety shits about gambling, I would after 15 years won't I. But how many people can actually follow them or maintain a clear head in the heat of the moment, very few and far between, so they are the winners, absolutely minority and we are the loser, overwhelmingly the great majority and long term gaming tax contributor and the best assets on Star and Crown Casino's assets books.

Good luck to you if you are winning more than losing, keep it up, but for the purposes of the general good, my view is still the same, don't go before you are in too deep and in the long run, only a very small and lucky few can end up winning.

Cheers

kickass
08-11-2012, 04:02 PM
I actually heard about this place at the casino. I overheard several people behind me talking about it while I was playing blackjack. A couple of them were shadowing my bets.

I've had a bad week with the gambling. I lost big on the Melbourne cup. I've won a modest amount back at the tables but I'm still down by more than a paypacket.

Mi Goreng
08-11-2012, 08:27 PM
Hi Gweilo bro , actually I'm looking for capital to open a small cafe , not to invest in gamble.

About beating the house edge , I always believe in something , it's feeling ... Feeling is something very strange , it's like a bond between you and your luck , for me , I don't bet long run , I bet for the hit and go type , like as we all know , the coin game , it's 50/50 , but if you bet for the long run , the chances will become slimmer as each time you bet , if not mistaken this is call the Huygens theory , we all all humans , and to be honest to ourself , 90% our emotions run us .. To avoid this , my target is simple , win around 10% , mostly 3-5 winnings hand , then I left the place and do something for the day ..

Why did I lost 100k back ? To be honest , I lost myself as I was seeking for that crazy excitement ... There's a Chinese guy , whenever I meet him , I will become lost , he's always the fcking one to temp and encourage , support to gamble big.. Whenever I was like gambling 1-2k per hand , he just put a good 10-15k with me and say " support , let's go double up " this is what make me lost so much , I lost myself , lost what I want before I come to the casino ... He's a big gambler , at least 300-500k he got in cash every time ( only my estimate ) ... If you guys are a regular , u might know who am I saying as not much in the baccarat table in the main gaming area who will have these kind of money ...

This is what I believe, is someone is to invest 100k , expecting 1% per month , I think it's not a hard goal to reach ... What do you guys think ? In the real world , invest in return 12% is quite a rewarding income ...

project_manager006
08-11-2012, 09:33 PM
I am glad so many bros are sharing their honest experiences here. Good on yas.

On a slightly different note - does anyone reckon The Star has a backroom? Anyone seen anything close to it?

I once saw a Viet looking guy running away from security. They weren't running, but they were walking 'calmly' after him, there were like 5-6 of them. Wonder what he did...

playerz
08-11-2012, 10:27 PM
Such a long time not posting but everyone is sharing in this thread , so I guess it's time i should share a bit of my personal experience with bros' here ...

Well I stopped gambling after I came back from my holidays in malaysia , used to gamble for a living , not the best way as its not something proud and not something worth talking about .. I gamble cause I think I could change my future and living standards, yes it did , I was bringing 10k per session , walking away mostly 1k is my target , yes sometimes I lost like a good 5-8k just to win $500 , arh it's sounds silly but that's the world of gambling ... U can win $1k in 5 minutes , in return , also I can lost $10k within half an hour ... So it's common ...

I quit gambling now and is looking for something small to do , planning to do a small business of selling food , but starting capital is too high and I can't afford it , well it's life , maybe I'm just waiting for the correct guy to partner or able to be my boss to start a business , after all I'm new in the industry and have a veteran in doing business ...

Once a girl told me , to be with a gambler is rather to be with a pauper , at least she don't have fake hopes from you , this is what hurt me and changes my attitude on gambling ...

My record , starting with a capital of $5k , my biggest capital increases to $150k , but I also lost myself, lost nearly 100k then I stopped.. Biggest wining in a time, in GENTING malaysia , brought aud1k won 15k in half an hour with my aunt ... In the end gave the money away to my grandma and mom ...

Now .. Just a very very normal life doing not much at the moment ... Waiting for chances ...

Good night guys, hope u enjoy my stupid story , not punting a lot , just a few times with 1-2 regulars ...

Been to Crown Melbourne and Genting once each and walked out a winner. But Sydney is terrible for me. So after loosing more than a mortgage, I've now stopped. Thrill of winning and whoring was great but that was my younger days. Now is a weekly $10 lotto ticket and that's it.

project_manager006
08-11-2012, 10:36 PM
omg i totally have the same feeling when i have winnings, i dunt want to waste it on punting!, usually before i start gambling i say, ok if i win something good i'll have a punt at a shop, but when i do win, i say man i should save it and not waste the winnings like that, then when i lose i say damm im in a shit mood i need a punt so i withdraw cash from bank.

Yeah it's funny like that. I guess winning kinda makes you appreciate the value of money, so you don't wanna throw it away. But when you lose money, you go into what I like to call "financial suicide mode" where you think "what the hell, I've already lost this much, what's another few hundred" so you go whoring.

EvolutionTroll
08-11-2012, 10:37 PM
Yeah it's funny like that. I guess winning kinda makes you appreciate the value of money, so you don't wanna throw it away. But when you lose money, you go into what I like to call "financial suicide mode" where you think "what the hell, I've already lost this much, what's another few hundred" so you go whoring.

exactly bro, both ways it doesn't end well.

IExperiment
08-11-2012, 10:39 PM
There are certain games in the casino where the odds are so much in favour for them such as their Texas Hold Em table game, Caribbean Stud ect... Even roulette is pointless unless you outlay enough numbers. No point to go for the 35/1 shot in just a couple of numbers so u need to cover your bets across but higher risk to lose all.

What you want to play are games where they are closer to a flip so games like baccarat, black jack are easy although the odds are still slightly favoring the house. If you are gonna play games like roulette, sic bo then make sure you cover your bets across the table to give you sufficient chance to win i.e close to half the table but place a few bigger bets on certain numbers. The idea is the try and recover your costs with your other bets and hope to hit it big on the 4-5 bigger bets. Always look towards your bankroll or what you brought in for the aession and don't wager all of it. You want at least 4-5 shots at this so even if you lose 3 times in a row, if you hit your fourth, you still in business. That's why you got to have sufficient bankroll.

What your saying is correct and very true but I still will not encourage others to gamble. Sorry Mi Goreng there is no such thing as luck I am sorry it was proven by some doctors a few years back.

Mi Goreng
09-11-2012, 12:43 AM
Bro Iexperiment , if luck is not the word you are after , I would suggest the word " probability " might suit in .....

Good night bros' !

Sillyboy
09-11-2012, 12:48 AM
I wouldn't recommend or encourage others to gamble either as the majority will not have the discipline or game to be successful. My observations and strategies are not for everyone but they are a way to start if someone was to do it ongoing. I think it's best for the majority to just treat gambling as a flutter and enjoyment rather than getting stuck in addiction

kickass
09-11-2012, 12:06 PM
Casino's make big money. They also pay big taxes. The money has to come from somewhere.....

Just a thought.

Prometheus_haha
10-11-2012, 01:24 AM
I went to the casino last week and won a bit of money, but when I went to the cashier to change my chips, they gave me more than what was supposed to. I didn't realise until I left the casino...am I going to get in trouble next time I go there? Is it like the movie 21 where they have face recognition software?

IExperiment
10-11-2012, 01:43 AM
I went to the casino last week and won a bit of money, but when I went to the cashier to change my chips, they gave me more than what was supposed to. I didn't realise until I left the casino...am I going to get in trouble next time I go there? Is it like the movie 21 where they have face recognition software?

No bad luck for them its like when some one bet and they win they did not collect the casino just take it.

icegel
10-11-2012, 08:20 AM
Wat about all the pokie, roulette, blackjack machines .... In the club like RSL ..... Wat is the chance of winning them ...

Thanks all bros for sharing ...

AHLUNGOR
10-11-2012, 10:12 AM
Wat about all the pokie, roulette, blackjack machines .... In the club like RSL ..... Wat is the chance of winning them ...

Thanks all bros for sharing ...

What is the odds you think you can beat the machine ??

Sure, the super jackpots will eventually come off, but how many people can win that, one in a million? you may as well buy a lottery ticket, the only different is, you don't get the game time of watching every spins!

Sillyboy
10-11-2012, 10:14 AM
Pokie machines are the worse. The government generates significant income from them and all these old grannies & grandpas lose their pennies on them

sithlordvegeta
10-11-2012, 12:11 PM
Just my thoughts...

A person asked you to flip a coin with him as many times as you want. And you have the preference of choosing heads/tails first, every time. But what you don't know is that the coin is rigged and that you will lose close to 55% of the time.

This person is called a casino. The games they offer provide odds that are worse than a coin flip. If you don't understand how disadvantaged you are (including variance and limited starting capital) you really should stay away from casinos.

Of course winning money will generally make most people happy but if you are the kind of person that will be affected majorly when you lose, I'd recommend you not to gamble. And also chasing your losses from a previous session would be the worst thing in my opinion.

I'd also go as far to say gambling will change you as a person (full time gamblers/ degens). Your relationship with people will be distant, you won't be able to focus on anything because it won't provide with a sense of thrill and action.

If theres a game i'd recommend, consider playing poker namely, NL hold'em. Its a skill game with a degree of luck involved, this game has taught me much about discipline and myself as a person. I've gone broke many times playing house games previously and when I started playing poker I was a loosing player. But I dedicated time and effort to improve my game, now I'm doing much better and don't play house games anymore (rarely with friends for shits and giggles). One thing I've learnt, play with an amount that you are comfortable loosing (not to say you should expect to lose) but the amount shouldn't bother you if you do lose.

For those that play poker and are reading this... heres a quote that I live by "If there is no river, there would be no fish"

A few members here have mentioned that they take trips overseas (Vegas) to gamble and prefer not to gamble where in the city they live in. I now do the same, except I go to Macau and let me tell you it is definitely something I look forward to yearly. In terms of casinos, variety of games, limits and their service, they are ten times better than star city. And need I say much about punting in Macau? I'm heading over there during Dec & Jan.

All in all, I'd just like to say to those who are in deep with gambling... quit, go get help from family and close friends. Its going to embarrassing and depressing but it was you who decided to "flip that coin" in the first place. And by help I don't mean borrow more money to gamble. For those who don't gamble and want to, as I mentioned above... play with an amount that you are comfortable loosing

Sillyboy
10-11-2012, 03:14 PM
Poker is better assuming you are skilled enough against other players and you aren't playing against the house. But you and the other players are already paying for their services as the casino still wins as they take so much money off off the table with 10% rake and time charge.

On a $80-$200 table, the casino takes out over $200 per hour based on time charge of $50 for 10 players + $180 rake (assume average 30 hands per hour x $6 rake (10% of avg pot of $60)

On a $200-$500 table, the casino takes out $300+ per hour with rake ($240) and time charge ($100).

Only on the $1000-$3000, there is no take and just time charge of $25 per player so casino takes $250 but your relative buyin to the table is more efficient.

If you are not a skilled player then it's hard to beat the rake long term. I remember a line from the movie "Rounders". "Listen, here's the thing. If you can't spot the sucker in the first half hour at the table, then you ARE the sucker."

Don't be a fool or sucker because there are plenty of regular players who will spot you as the fish haha

sithlordvegeta
10-11-2012, 04:01 PM
thats why macau is superior in all aspects (poker related). no time charge, rake is capped at 10%. the buyin options are fantastic, a variety of stakes and games PLUS there is an endless river of fish. my several trips to macau have been paid for the hard work at the poker tables plus profit.

DarkZero01
10-11-2012, 04:39 PM
now its the time for me to head into the casino see if i am paying the wages for dealers/ staff or win some pocket money.
i am going to try through all the tips that is mentioned here! XD

project_manager006
10-11-2012, 05:25 PM
I heard The Star is going to introduce roulette with a '00'. Don't know who would want to play this one...

PhoBot
10-11-2012, 07:06 PM
You asian bros are just suckers for gambling. I find casinos to be gaudy, crass, soulless places. I'd rather eat a turd than go to a casino.

sithlordvegeta
10-11-2012, 08:17 PM
You asian bros are just suckers for gambling. I find casinos to be gaudy, crass, soulless places. I'd rather eat a turd than go to a casino.

I find your generalisation to be offensive, yes 90% of the people that go to star city are Asian. But what a lot of the punters are going through in this thread ain't the best thing to experience in life (debt, addiction and depression). It doesn't necessarily mean they are suckers...

AHLUNGOR
10-11-2012, 10:30 PM
I heard The Star is going to introduce roulette with a '00'. Don't know who would want to play this one...

May the odds be forever at your favour! Hunger Game

And this "You" is the casino house. So with 1 zero in the roulette the odd is 37-1 and you get pay 35-1 for a straight up win. With an extra 00, the odds is 38-1 and you still get pay 35-1, suckers !!

Potluck2.0
10-11-2012, 11:02 PM
I wouldn't recommend or encourage others to gamble either as the majority will not have the discipline or game to be successful. My observations and strategies are not for everyone but they are a way to start if someone was to do it ongoing. I think it's best for the majority to just treat gambling as a flutter and enjoyment rather than getting stuck in addiction

I feel ya bro...I lost discipline this week trying to chase a small loss and end up with big losses, about 1k in a week. Treating this as a big wake up call cos over 1k loss in a week starts becoming uncontrollable for me. Quitting gambling forever now on advice of bros on this forum now cos my whole punting budget for rest of year is gone.

Smart/dumb enough to give most of the paypacket to the wife so she controls finances and pays mortgage, bills, groceries and uses leftover to pay down mortgage even faster and doesn't know about my 'pocket money for vices' so I'm not ruined in any way but really annoyed about the fact that i can't punt for a while.

Sillyboy
10-11-2012, 11:06 PM
Odds get worse and worse. Just play your own game and with discipline but don't bank on this to be your primary income or it'll end in tears.

Sithlord - well done brother on your experience and yes Macau is better with no time charge but the money was a couple of years ago. Granted there are still fish just like in Sydney but when some people have lost a few hundred thousand playing poker, you would think that they would get smarter lol

Sillyboy
10-11-2012, 11:08 PM
Potluck bro the size of loss is all relative. Best to control yourself and play within means. Good luck brother

project_manager006
10-11-2012, 11:24 PM
Quitting gambling forever now on advice of bros on this forum now cos my whole punting budget for rest of year is gone.

You have no idea how happy I'd be if this thread helped just one person to quit gambling.

sithlordvegeta
10-11-2012, 11:29 PM
guys if you are serious about quitting... go ask for the self ban program. i know you can go to RSLs n shit but at least you aint stepping into a casino...

project_manager006
10-11-2012, 11:51 PM
guys if you are serious about quitting... go ask for the self ban program. i know you can go to RSLs n shit but at least you aint stepping into a casino...

I've always wondered with that, how are all the security guards supposed to remember all the people who are self banned?

AHLUNGOR
10-11-2012, 11:57 PM
I've always wondered with that, how are all the security guards supposed to remember all the people who are self banned?

They have very high tech face recognition software they run on every person entering the casino, just like those CIA movies, if you are on the list, they will find you

Cheers

project_manager006
11-11-2012, 12:00 AM
How many times i walked away from the casino with no money left in my wallet and all the credit cards, ATM cards were max out. Its a long, sad and lonely ride home on the train, and so much regrets and disappointments and hate against myself......!!

Man, I know that feeling all too well unfortunately.

There was a period when I used to go before work. My addiction was so bad, that if I decided the night before that I was going, my brain would automatically wake me up at like 4-5am so I could go before work. I'd get there, and see the remnants of people who had been gambling overnight. For me it felt fresh. I'd lose $1000 and walk out of the casino to see the sun rise. I felt guilty, shameful and embarassed to have lost money that I needed two weeks to earn.

I'm not even sure those words aptly describe the feeling. How do you describe the feeling of knowing you have no money available if there is an emergency that day? How do you describe the feeling of knowing you'd need the next 12 months to pay off your credit card?

I told myself to never gamble again, yet funnily enough I'd be right back a few days later. It was like a secret life I had. People thought I was this boring employee who went to work, went home after work, and saved a lot of money. Heh, if only they knew.

sithlordvegeta
11-11-2012, 03:44 PM
Man, I know that feeling all too well unfortunately.

There was a period when I used to go before work. My addiction was so bad, that if I decided the night before that I was going, my brain would automatically wake me up at like 4-5am so I could go before work. I'd get there, and see the remnants of people who had been gambling overnight. For me it felt fresh. I'd lose $1000 and walk out of the casino to see the sun rise. I felt guilty, shameful and embarassed to have lost money that I needed two weeks to earn.

I'm not even sure those words aptly describe the feeling. How do you describe the feeling of knowing you have no money available if there is an emergency that day? How do you describe the feeling of knowing you'd need the next 12 months to pay off your credit card?

I told myself to never gamble again, yet funnily enough I'd be right back a few days later. It was like a secret life I had. People thought I was this boring employee who went to work, went home after work, and saved a lot of money. Heh, if only they knew.

I feel what you going through here.. but let me tell you that if you don't quit/ get help, this addiction will literally ruin your life and i dunno how old you are, but it will come a time later on, you'll have nothing/ deficit next to your name over all these years. If you haven't won big/ gotten rich/ made a living from gambling by now what makes you think you will later on... you are the one that is in control here, so give it up before it totally fucks your life up... just give it up

kickass
14-11-2012, 12:39 PM
All good advice sithlord.

pro_seeker
10-02-2014, 04:35 PM
I just came across this thread while searching for something else.. Wow, some of the stories you bros told here really resonated with me. I guess stories like these are common and it's good to know that I wasn't in a unique situation.

I used to gamble a lot relative to my income 7-8 years ago. I racked up a bunch of debts and my credit rating went to shit as well. A lot relative to my income = everything I earned.

Long story short, I still gamble a couple of times a week (sports, pokies) but much more under control or at least not a significant amount compared to my current income.

BUT, and it's a big but, I still feel like that this disease can catch up to me slowly and eventually bankrupt me. It's this feeling at the back of my head that if given the chance, I would bet everything I had in a single session. luckily you can only withdraw $1000 at a time.

It's an ongoing battle and I would love to know how your gambling has affected you in the last couple of years since the last post on this thread. Anybody successfully quit? Replaced it with some other hobby to keep you busy?

Good_guy_Greg
10-02-2014, 07:42 PM
I successfully quit for a while, but the urges came rushing back when I made a mistake in life and lost a large sum of money (not gambling). Now that I was in debt, my brain told me one way to help make it back was via the casino. Only it made things worse. There were a few lunch times where I'd drop $2-3k. Not proud of myself at all.

pro_seeker
10-02-2014, 08:54 PM
Yeah it's funny how even when you don't have two dollars to run together, you somehow manage to find money to gamble with. Are you still gambling on a regular basis? I've thought about going to Gamblers Anon a few times but it was quite a daunting thing to bring myself to do.

Good_guy_Greg
10-02-2014, 09:20 PM
Yeah it's funny how even when you don't have two dollars to run together, you somehow manage to find money to gamble with. Are you still gambling on a regular basis? I've thought about going to Gamblers Anon a few times but it was quite a daunting thing to bring myself to do.

Haha yes, it is funny indeed. Sometimes when I go to Myer, I see a tie I like, see the price and think "$70? I can't afford that". Other times I take my own lunch to work to save $10, yet at the table, I am throwing down $400 per spin without a second thought. Casino and gambling can make you do strange things.

I'm not gambling on a regular basis, but only when the urges are too much to resist. I went to GA once, everyone was very inviting and accepting, but the only thing I didn't like about it was the religious aspect of it, as I am not religious myself. Also, there is a small risk that you may see someone you know.

If group therapy doesn't sound like your thing, Wesley Mission offers free one on one gambling counselling sessions. I went to those and the counsellor was very helpful. I didn't gamble at all during that time, and I would've never looked back had it not been for my fuck up in life.

Anyway, let us know how you go bro.

Licker
10-02-2014, 09:52 PM
I'm not gambling on a regular basis, but only when the urges are too much to resist.

I'm going to Vegas in a couple of months to get my fix.
I still hold my promise to myself - for the 15th year in a row - not to gamble where I live.

If I really want to do some punting here, I go to the beef week in Casino (NSW): http://www.casinobeefweek.com.au/
In addition to some awesome food, there are usually also some "innocent" country girls who also want to enjoy the meat and some bull riding :)

bevis90
10-02-2014, 09:56 PM
I bet in big events like World Cup, melb cup, nrl etc u get my drift. You win much bigger than casinos

AHLUNGOR
10-02-2014, 11:16 PM
Whether it is casino games , or pokies in clubs or TAB or Sportsbet it's all gambling addictions !

First sign of trouble is when your savings starting to disappear, if you have shares and term deposits , they'll be gone next!

When you start withdrawing cash advances from your credit cards and can only afford to pay the minimum monthly repayment, you are in deep trouble.

Next thing you know, you max out on all your credit cards and if your credit card company offer you an increase on your credit limit, you took it instantly!

By the time you have to keep apply for additional new credit cards to withdraw the cash advance or take the advantage of the balance transfer to cover min payment of your other cards, you are not far off from fallen down the cliff !!

Bankcrupcy won't be too far away !!

That's what gambling addiction can do to your life !!

Good luck !

ivies555
11-02-2014, 08:06 AM
I agree with all of you.
I have a restricted Casino budget. May be once a month with friends, max $100.
If I win, happy days & if I lose, no regret.
Cheers!!!!

Good_guy_Greg
12-02-2014, 07:13 AM
Does anyone know much about the pit boss' job?

I always feel like they smile when I am looking at them, but deep down inside they wish I would lose. Do they get a commission or something??

AHLUNGOR
12-02-2014, 08:23 AM
Does anyone know much about the pit boss' job?

I always feel like they smile when I am looking at them, but deep down inside they wish I would lose. Do they get a commission or something??

Over the years, got a bit friendly with a few pit boss in Canberra and Star City in the earlier days.

No they don't get commission or incentive if you lose money, they are on a pretty good pay package.

It's all individual mentality, some good guys really like to see people win and they usually hinted to you that you should go after some good wins so you don't put it all back, or you should leave when you kept losing - speaking in Chinese by the way and always in a joking mood.

Most wont give a damn, as it is just a job and you are just a face among thousands every day !

Cheers

Good_guy_Greg
13-02-2014, 07:06 AM
Saw a guy yesterday place a $1000 chip on 19-36 at the roulette table. It landed on 18, between 22 and 29.

Ouch.

AHLUNGOR
13-02-2014, 08:50 AM
Saw a guy yesterday place a $1000 chip on 19-36 at the roulette table. It landed on 18, between 22 and 29.

Ouch.

That's a standard even money bet!

In roulette , for even money bet on red/black, big/small, either side of the winning number are losing numbers!

The ball could land on 19! Either side 15 and 4, he would have lost!

36 is a win , but 13, 11 both losers !

When I play, I always play sections, 10 or 19 numbers in a row!! But the ball could still bounce to the other side of the wheel - all the times!

My favourite sections are either side of Zero:

22, 18, 29, 7, 28, 12, 35, 3, 26, 0, 32, 15, 19, 4, 21, 2, 25, 17, 34 !

But the fear of losing means I would normally safe on a couple more numbers on either ends , like 9 & 31 next to 22 and 6 and 27 next to 34, so the odds are favoring the house as I bet more than even chances!!

Love the game, but too painful and lost too much money !!

Better stay away!!

CunningLinguist
13-02-2014, 09:01 AM
Apart from James Bond has anyone ever won big at roulette ...

AHLUNGOR
13-02-2014, 09:39 AM
Apart from James Bond has anyone ever won big at roulette ...

Best session ever was in Canberra when I took home $10,500 cash - at one stage it was over $13K but I promised myself I must bring back at least $10K! One of the very few occasion I actually did it, so many times I had a good win and didn't walk and put it all back !!

Have seen other punters betting numbers with $100 chips, a few thousand dollars every spin, too rich for me so I usually stay away from those tables !

mask
13-02-2014, 10:20 AM
My humble thoughts are, at times even if you win (which is of course not often) you don't actually win. What i mean is, you are always behind! Think about it, how much have you lost before that? Yes you won, but only a small part (VERY) of your money back. This is very depressing but if you were to add up the total amount of money you have lost since you first started to gamble, i am certain that 99.9% of gamblers have not won. If you are in the 0.01%, consider yourself bloody lucky!
I use to be a hardcore gambler myself back in the days and i for one can say i have definitely not won!!!
You can call yourself a winner if you don't gamble, at all.

AHLUNGOR
13-02-2014, 10:35 AM
My humble thoughts are, at times even if you win (which is of course not often) you don't actually win. What i mean is, you are always behind! Think about it, how much have you lost before that? Yes you won, but only a small part (VERY) of your money back. This is very depressing but if you were to add up the total amount of money you have lost since you first started to gamble, i am certain that 99.9% of gamblers have not won. If you are in the 0.01%, consider yourself bloody lucky!
I use to be a hardcore gambler myself back in the days and i for one can say i have definitely not won!!!
You can call yourself a winner if you don't gamble, at all.

Good point brother mask,

Canberra and Sydney Star Casino had so much painful and disaster memories - lost all hope and human dignity thats for sure - that's why I don't go to Star anymore, I still gamble on the footy and horse but much smaller bets - my biggest recent bets will be like $100 for the Aussie to win a test - which thankfully had won 12 out of 13 matches and three series win !!

I only go to casino and have a game if I am interstate or overseas, but that's all very small bets too. Unlike in Sydney when I used to go everyday after work, that's a bloody addiction - and you never ever win, always lost !!

I was really lucky that I somehow got out and got away from it all back in 2007, No, I didn't win lotto and got my money back, but at least I stopped the rot !!

They money I have lost in the so many years that I have been to the casino, well, they are goooooone !! and I am at peace with that. I have been defeated - a long long time ago !!

:fire:

wilisno
13-02-2014, 10:41 AM
Of course nobody would win over a casino in the long run, otherwise how would you think they could stay in business ! It is said that Star Casino alone needs 2 millions dollars a day just to break even !

mask
13-02-2014, 11:11 AM
You give hope to all those gamblers out there bro Ahlungor, that is you can stop!
Takes a very strong person(mind) to just walk away from casino's and be at peace with it (especially with all the money your freakin lost!).
Everything starts with the mind; will end with the mind.

Beancounter
13-02-2014, 11:34 AM
Everything starts with the mind; will end with the mind.

These are all good posts to help overcome gambling. Chasing losses will never put me ahead is something I realised.

Like u say mask, starts in the mind so I will be strong and stay away from the Pokies!

mask
13-02-2014, 12:00 PM
These are all good posts to help overcome gambling. Chasing losses will never put me ahead is something I realised.

Like u say mask, starts in the mind so I will be strong and stay away from the Pokies!

Bro, this may give you some encouragement to stop the pokies.
I once knew a guy who is a technician for the pokie machines for a sports clubs i use to regularly haunt. Shit have i lost a lot of money in there!
Anyway one day while he was opening one of the pokies machine he showed me how much the machine had taken in ($) compared to how much it had paid out. I can tell you the total $ the machine had taken in as appose to it paying out, was ridiculously high(from memory). He told me the pokies machine are normally set at about 10% payout. So that means the machines are design to win about 90%. Each machine he told me, makes about $250K a year for the clubs! If you count how many machines they have in the clubs; you do the maths. That's why you see pokies machines on every corner, in every pub and everywhere you go! It's like having a Money tree (shit i wish i had one).

AHLUNGOR
13-02-2014, 01:16 PM
Bro, this may give you some encouragement to stop the pokies.
I once knew a guy who is a technician for the pokie machines for a sports clubs i use to regularly haunt. Shit have i lost a lot of money in there!
Anyway one day while he was opening one of the pokies machine he showed me how much the machine had taken in ($) compared to how much it had paid out. I can tell you the total $ the machine had taken in as appose to it paying out, was ridiculously high(from memory). He told me the pokies machine are normally set at about 10% payout. So that means the machines are design to win about 90%. Each machine he told me, makes about $250K a year for the clubs! If you count how many machines they have in the clubs; you do the maths. That's why you see pokies machines on every corner, in every pub and everywhere you go! It's like having a Money tree (shit i wish i had one).

Hi there, I think you may have got the facts mixed up, there is no way the pokies only pay out 10% of its takings, no government in the world will allow that.

I believe the required payout is more like 85% and I think the States gaming tax will come out from there somewhere as well.

It's works very similar to TAB pay out system.

Some brothers in the know please verify .

Cheers

Beancounter
13-02-2014, 02:08 PM
I remember reading that for every time u press spin (say $1 spin) they would return $0.90. That is how they calculate 90% return. Happy to be corrected.

Unfortunately I got lured but the guy next to u comes puts $50 bucks and wins $1000-2000. They pull out and go.

In the end as I increased my bets, losses got bigger so I guess it is time to move on. My losses aren't huge but I see potential it can get out of hand so the encouraging words will stop it in its tracks.

AHLUNGOR
13-02-2014, 02:25 PM
I remember reading that for every time u press spin (say $1 spin) they would return $0.90. That is how they calculate 90% return. Happy to be corrected.

Unfortunately I got lured but the guy next to u comes puts $50 bucks and wins $1000-2000. They pull out and go.

In the end as I increased my bets, losses got bigger so I guess it is time to move on. My losses aren't huge but I see potential it can get out of hand so the encouraging words will stop it in its tracks.

Well, the lucky guy who puts $50 in and won $1,000.00 then walk away - good on him.

Unfortunately, that's pretty much how a lot of pokies addicts had started, he may come back a few more times and still winning and he walks and he thinks he is very smart, then eventually the beginner luck or law of average will run out or run against him and he won't be winning any more, then the $50, will become $100, $200, $1,000 when every dollar he ever won got put back in. and he started drawing money from his savings, from his credit cards and from whatever means he can lay his hands on.

It's very sad, and in the end, only the casino or the pokie machines' owners will be winning, we are all eventual losers and suckers !!

Just my two cents

Cheers

:cool2:

Kromm
13-02-2014, 03:24 PM
I think there s another reason involved.

Sure, winning the money is a good thing. But the thrill of beating the odds and the euphoria of winning is also what makes gambling addictive.

HookedonHookerz
13-02-2014, 04:10 PM
I have a full proof way to win against the casino, 2 cents pokie machines and look for ones with 1c credits left. Since you cant play with it just print the 1c out. Then go to the cash out machines and get 5c since they round up!

Unfortunately this is the only way to win long term, any other schemes do not work. Im also selling this as a book, which you can order from me.


:shout::smile:

Beancounter
13-02-2014, 04:21 PM
Well, the lucky guy who puts $50 in and won $1,000.00 then walk away - good on him.

Unfortunately, that's pretty much how a lot of pokies addicts had started, he may come back a few more times and still winning and he walks and he thinks he is very smart, then eventually the beginner luck or law of average will run out or run against him and he won't be winning any more, then the $50, will become $100, $200, $1,000 when every dollar he ever won got put back in. and he started drawing money from his savings, from his credit cards and from whatever means he can lay his hands on.

It's very sad, and in the end, only the casino or the pokie machines' owners will be winning, we are all eventual losers and suckers !!

Just my two cents

Cheers

:cool2:

Exactly! The best thing is to stay away. I used to think let me turn $50 into 200 and I will go for an nice massage but usually it turns into losing 200.

I will be determined to no longer be that sucker!!

AHLUNGOR
13-02-2014, 04:39 PM
Exactly! The best thing is to stay away. I used to think let me turn $50 into 200 and I will go for an nice massage but usually it turns into losing 200.

I will be determined to no longer be that sucker!!


Yeah, Gambling and punting usually go hands in hands with the male punters.

You are horny, you need a fix, what better way than to turn a $50 or $100 into $300-$500 where you can have a good fuck with dinner and drinks.

The problem is, by the time you lost all the cash you have on you, you started to withdraw cash from your credit card and max out your daily withdraw limit and you are still behind, so a $350/hr punt turned out costing you $1,000 to $1,500 and the money are now with the casino or the club and you end up with the debt in your credit card charging you 18-19% interest and NO FUCKING PUNT !!

That's what gambling will do to you, you might as well just have a cheap $35 massage and a $20 HJ - at least you will feel much much better, or a basic $90/30 min FS..............lol

Cheers

:cool2:

CunningLinguist
13-02-2014, 04:58 PM
Is this a sex forum or gamblers anonymous ... :)

AHLUNGOR
13-02-2014, 05:03 PM
I have a full proof way to win against the casino, 2 cents pokie machines and look for ones with 1c credits left. Since you cant play with it just print the 1c out. Then go to the cash out machines and get 5c since they round up!

Unfortunately this is the only way to win long term, any other schemes do not work. Im also selling this as a book, which you can order from me.


:shout::smile:

That's a very interesting one, but I'm not sure whether I will try that!

I have a way to make some money, and it is a shit house act, I never done it myself but plenty of people had done it against me and were successful.

This is by no means fool proof and please don't try, you probably end up losing anyway !!

This is working on trends and momentum which sometimes it works and sometimes it's just against you no matter what - for me, it's usually the latter.

If you have been in a casino a long time, and you walk around the tables, especially the Sic Bo (big and small) and the Baccarat tables, there are always winners and losers, and they would have been on the table for a long time and slowly but surely will lost everything. Then there are the winners (although always the minority) who are now in a roll and they shouldn't be too hard to spot.

But the game plan here is to focus on the losers. As there are plenty of them - so what do you do ? if they always lost, you bet the opposite !!

If they bet big, you bet small, if they bet Banker, you bet Player, but only play one or two hands, otherwise, you will be very obvious and you will be called nasty names!!

When I was gambling, I mostly just played roulette and bet on sections, and when I was winning, there were some people who will just follow me and placing their chips on top of all my bets on the numbers, so if I win, they win. This not so back, at least this happened only when I was hot. And I would be happy to share, the only time I was not happy was when I was betting $2 or $5 chips, they put a couple of $25 chips on top, so when I win hundreds, they win thousands by following my numbers. time to leave and cash out !!

The worst situation was when I was losing, and I was betting on a section - like on either side of the zero, then these people came to the table, they could see I was losing, so they bet on the opposite side of the wheel and won - shit happens, all chip gone, time to go home !! didn't even have money for taxi, lucky I got a weekly train ticket - but I had to walk to Central - bloody hell. true story, it happened !!

Regrets, I had a few !!

Fuck the casino !! I wish !!

:fire:

AHLUNGOR
13-02-2014, 05:04 PM
Is this a sex forum or gamblers anonymous ... :)

Sorry mate, just some stupid whinging from an ex gamling addict !!:sweat:

wilisno
13-02-2014, 05:36 PM
Is this a sex forum or gamblers anonymous ... :)
It's still much better than the insomnia curing conspiracy thread ! ;) ;) ;)

CunningLinguist
13-02-2014, 06:04 PM
Sorry mate, just some stupid whinging from an ex gamling addict !!:sweat:

I don't mind, I'm not a gambler and after hearing these stories I have even less desire to be a gambler, so keep up the whinging :)
I think it has already been pointed out that the casinos would be out of business if you could win in the long term. But there are some amongst us that think they are smart enough to slip between the cracks and win in the long term, that is the allure of the casinos appelaing to your vanity and making you think you are special and that you are not a mug and that you can win, it seems to be working as the casinos seem to be doing well....

There is only one game that gives you a fair chance in the casino and that is 21. If you learn to count cards and have discipline than you can win in the long term. BUT as soon as you start winning consistently the casinos will know and they will label you a card counter and ban you from the casino and notify other casinos as well. (Check out the movei: 21 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0478087/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1))

rooter
13-02-2014, 09:32 PM
A gambling win is never a win, it's just a loan.
Sooner or later you will give it back - and with interest!

wilisno
13-02-2014, 10:27 PM
And somewhat related, it's taking every single ounce of self-control I have not to post in there.

I haven't neither ! Just not interested ! Even ridiculing him he will take it as a compliment ! :miao:

CunningLinguist
13-02-2014, 11:43 PM
I haven't neither ! Just not interested ! Even ridiculing him he will take it as a compliment ! :miao:

He is such a troll, and a compulsive liar.
He has started denying that which we all know to be true now. He seems to forget that he is on public record.
He is like a failed politician ...

checksix
14-02-2014, 12:52 AM
outta curiosity which casino is nicer the crown at melbourne or jupiter at goldcoast?

wilisno
14-02-2014, 01:10 AM
outta curiosity which casino is nicer the crown at melbourne or jupiter at goldcoast?

Of course it's the Crown in Melbourne, a much newer and busier casino.

Omen
14-02-2014, 03:41 AM
I use to play porkies and casino but stopped cos IMO Horse and sports is the best for gambling. Just play straight bets and try to have control something which I don't have. These are my stories of me losing control and my runs
100 to 12k in 2 weeks blew it back to 5k
200 to 11k in one week blew it back 5k
500 to 9k in a month
400 to 8k in 3 weeks blew it back to 4k
70 to 8k flukey 8 leg multi
And just recently I went on the biggest run ever 100 to 24k in one week but blew it back to 7k in like 4 days. No bullshit here I was so pissed of with myself think greed got the better of me but then again I'm still up 7k and I could have stopped at 1k and never got that high in the first place
These we're betting on sports and horses. So guys if ur gonna bet bet on sports

Good_guy_Greg
14-02-2014, 07:28 AM
In roulette , for even money bet on red/black, big/small, either side of the winning number are losing numbers!

The ball could land on 19! Either side 15 and 4, he would have lost!

36 is a win , but 13, 11 both losers !

That's a good point bro, I never saw it like that. I always used to think if betting red had same odds as betting on 18/37 numbers, I always felt instinctively that betting on 18/37 numbers was better, but could not explain why. But you just did!!!

AHLUNGOR
14-02-2014, 08:55 AM
I use to play porkies and casino but stopped cos IMO Horse and sports is the best for gambling. Just play straight bets and try to have control something which I don't have. These are my stories of me losing control and my runs
100 to 12k in 2 weeks blew it back to 5k
200 to 11k in one week blew it back 5k
500 to 9k in a month
400 to 8k in 3 weeks blew it back to 4k
70 to 8k flukey 8 leg multi
And just recently I went on the biggest run ever 100 to 24k in one week but blew it back to 7k in like 4 days. No bullshit here I was so pissed of with myself think greed got the better of me but then again I'm still up 7k and I could have stopped at 1k and never got that high in the first place
These we're betting on sports and horses. So guys if ur gonna bet bet on sports

Where did you get all those money in the first place ??

mask
14-02-2014, 09:57 AM
roulette is called the devil's game.
Want to know why?
On a roulette table there are 36 numbers.
Add up the total numbers on a roulette table 1 + 2 +3 +4........etc (1 to 36) and what do you get?

AHLUNGOR
14-02-2014, 11:11 AM
roulette is called the devil's game.
Want to know why?
On a roulette table there are 36 numbers.
Add up the total numbers on a roulette table 1 + 2 +3 +4........etc (1 to 36) and what do you get?


Very good brother mask !!

You certainly know your 666 !!

mask
14-02-2014, 01:05 PM
I like roulette. But if you look at the probabilities of getting a number, a pair, red, black, a corner, etc and then look at the pay outs (36 times, 16 times, etc) you'll realise that apart from chance you will not win long term.

The best odds on roulette are red/black 50/50. You have a chance to win 50% of the time and will double your money 50% of the time. Fun. Leave when you're ahead. Or play long term and come out WITH NOTHING.

You do the math.

Gambling at a table is a way to spend your time and money as you drink and check out the hookers looking for customers.

Gambling is also a GREAT WAY to launder money. Which is why casinos are strictly licensed.

you say 50/50 bro,
What if 0 comes out.

Omen
14-02-2014, 01:50 PM
Where did you get all those money in the first place ??

i started off with a 100 dollars.. 200,500 and 400 anybody can start off like that . And as i won i bet bigger so say my recent run i started with a 100 on a horse and won 1700 then bet bigger after that Then used that money to bet more etc as i went along i bet bigger and started killing it but then got too greedy . I use to play pokies and black jack alot. Most i ever won on pokies was 3k. had to double up it up. Black jack was 2k. But lost heaps on pokies. Sometimes you can chuck in 1k into a pokie machine and lose it all or just win ur money back and it last you one hour. Youd be better off chucking 1k on a sports game and double ur money and that 1k will last 2-3 hours.

CunningLinguist
14-02-2014, 04:17 PM
i started off with a 100 dollars.. 200,500 and 400 anybody can start off like that . And as i won i bet bigger so say my recent run i started with a 100 on a horse and won 1700 then bet bigger after that Then used that money to bet more etc as i went along i bet bigger and started killing it but then got too greedy . I use to play pokies and black jack alot. Most i ever won on pokies was 3k. had to double up it up. Black jack was 2k. But lost heaps on pokies. Sometimes you can chuck in 1k into a pokie machine and lose it all or just win ur money back and it last you one hour. Youd be better off chucking 1k on a sports game and double ur money and that 1k will last 2-3 hours.

You could use that 1K at a RnT or a brothel ...

Omen
14-02-2014, 04:41 PM
You could use that 1K at a RnT or a brothel ...


yeah true but talking about gambling . Better off playing sports and horses then pokies

faruk
20-02-2014, 12:21 AM
I was at the casino tonight, playing roulette. Many chips all over the table, dealer hit 0. Only one person had their chips on 0, everybody else lost. I heard the pit boss say "beautiful" as the dealer swept all the chips away, and the dealer said to him "don't say that".

Fucking pit boss piss me off so much!!

IExperiment
20-02-2014, 12:42 AM
I was at the casino tonight, playing roulette. Many chips all over the table, dealer hit 0. Only one person had their chips on 0, everybody else lost. I heard the pit boss say "beautiful" as the dealer swept all the chips away, and the dealer said to him "don't say that".

Fucking pit boss piss me off so much!!

Yes they are not as subtle as they used to be, we all know they are not making as much money as they use too.
I used Casino hotel quite often and I noticed they even cut down as they used to give perfume soap in their top end Suite but the past I have been there a few times is been down graded...lol.. Poor Casino not making as much money as they used too.

dohdoe
20-02-2014, 09:51 AM
I heard the pit boss say "beautiful" as the dealer swept all the chips away, and the dealer said to him "don't say that".

Fucking pit boss piss me off so much!!
Sounds like desperate times for the poor casino

AHLUNGOR
20-02-2014, 11:29 AM
Sounds like desperate times for the poor casino

I think the casino business goes through the boom and flat line like many other business.

Before the opening of the Star City, the Canberra Casino used to do booming trades, there are bus load after bus load transporting punters many times a day from Sydney to Canberra. You pay the driver $25 and you get a $25 casino chips to bet on, so basically its a free bus ride. They used to run a temporary casino at the convention centre until the permanent site was built and they did very good trades round the clock until the Sydney Casino opened in 1997? also at a temporary site out on the whaft.

I think the Canberra casino now is very slow, still OK at night time on Fri/Sat but I don't think they are doing even 20% of the business they were doing before.

Star City or the Star as it is called today probably made their big money during the first 10 years. I think they trading OK, the big Asian high roller may be more going to the Crown in Melbourne rather than Sydney - you can't beat Jamie Packer when there is a Crown in Macau - which could have feed a lot of traffic to Melbourne.

Poor Star, where will they go when the new Crown opens at Barrangaroo ??

Potluck2.0
24-02-2014, 11:02 PM
Well I for 1 never gamble at the star now compared to 10 years ago when I was there 3 nights a week. Managed to cut down on pokies too, it's very much like quitting smoking. You have to quit many times and relapse many times but eventually u will beat it if u keep trying instead of giving in

mask
26-02-2014, 10:06 AM
Was at the pub the other day for lunch, saw a guy playing i think, about $8.50 bets on the pokies machine (the one where you can win 88x on a free game). He got the free feature and pulled out about $3,800K!!! It's been a while since i seen someone win that big on the pokies. Mind you though, i dont know how much he already pumped into that machine.

AHLUNGOR
26-02-2014, 10:13 AM
Was at the pub the other day for lunch, saw a guy playing i think, about $8.50 bets on the pokies machine (the one where you can win 88x on a free game). He got the free feature and pulled out about $3,800K!!! It's been a while since i seen someone win that big on the pokies. Mind you though, i dont know how much he already pumped into that machine.

This is exactly the kind of win which will get people hooked and become addicted, easy money isn't it!

Now he can afford all the WL he couldn't normally afford and while he was fucking the $350/hr brand girl he would be thinking: I could live like this ??

Good luck to him, or is it ??

Good_guy_Greg
15-04-2014, 11:04 PM
Here's a question:

Over the last few months, my gambling addiction had been getting worse and I've been frequenting the casino quite a bit. I only play roulette. On some sessions, I would leave with a win. A few times I left with a profit of about $2000. It's not much, but when you look at how many people actually leave the roulette table with a win, then I guess you could call me a rare breed. But over time, I have definitely lost more than I have won.

Other than 'winning', one other thing that may make me stand out is the length of time I am able to last at the table. Most people lose all their money within 30 mins, or one hour max. I can last like 4 hours without losing the lot (though the house edge slowly erodes me).

After a 4 hour session where I won $2000, I went back a few days later and something strange happened. In one hour, the dealer changed 4 times at my table. Normally they do 45-60 min shifts. I wondered if the casino was reacting to my sessions, but I dismissed it as paranoia. Then the other day, a few moments after I started playing at a table, two security guards arrived and stood about a metre away from me. I thought they were watching someone else, but when I looked at them, they were staring right at me, in that intimidating manner that they do. One of them gave a sly smile at me, then a few seconds later they walked away.

I am not cheating, and like I said, I am losing more than I win. But does the casino think otherwise and are they trying to intimidate me?

CunningLinguist
15-04-2014, 11:09 PM
You sure are "a rare breed" ...

Good_guy_Greg
15-04-2014, 11:12 PM
You sure are "a rare breed" ...

What I mean is, a lot of the times when I feel I have won enough, I cash in my colour chips. Not many people do that. 99% of people just play the rest of it out, even if they are up. And so when the pit boss sees someone cashing in the colour chips, they take notice.

CunningLinguist
15-04-2014, 11:18 PM
quod erat demonstrandum

IExperiment
16-04-2014, 12:55 AM
What I mean is, a lot of the times when I feel I have won enough, I cash in my colour chips. Not many people do that. 99% of people just play the rest of it out, even if they are up. And so when the pit boss sees someone cashing in the colour chips, they take notice.

Like I said they are having trouble now as there is less money, so keep winning good guy greg.
Dont worry about them and flash your winning when you walk out :)
They will start to offer you free hotel and other stuff when you win a lot more.

AHLUNGOR
16-04-2014, 12:58 AM
Here's a question:

Over the last few months, my gambling addiction had been getting worse and I've been frequenting the casino quite a bit. I only play roulette. On some sessions, I would leave with a win. A few times I left with a profit of about $2000. It's not much, but when you look at how many people actually leave the roulette table with a win, then I guess you could call me a rare breed. But over time, I have definitely lost more than I have won.

Other than 'winning', one other thing that may make me stand out is the length of time I am able to last at the table. Most people lose all their money within 30 mins, or one hour max. I can last like 4 hours without losing the lot (though the house edge slowly erodes me).

After a 4 hour session where I won $2000, I went back a few days later and something strange happened. In one hour, the dealer changed 4 times at my table. Normally they do 45-60 min shifts. I wondered if the casino was reacting to my sessions, but I dismissed it as paranoia. Then the other day, a few moments after I started playing at a table, two security guards arrived and stood about a metre away from me. I thought they were watching someone else, but when I looked at them, they were staring right at me, in that intimidating manner that they do. One of them gave a sly smile at me, then a few seconds later they walked away.

I am not cheating, and like I said, I am losing more than I win. But does the casino think otherwise and are they trying to intimidate me?

I don't think they are watching you brother !

Not when you are winning $2,000!

If you won $200,000 it may be different !

Cheers

Raybo
16-04-2014, 10:13 PM
To win $2000 over 4 hours is winning against the odds and is significant turnover. They are probably checking you out, just to be sure.

Oneonone
19-04-2014, 08:17 AM
What I find really sad it the number of working ladies that seem to spend all their spare time at the Casino gambling.

I know some who have phoned into the shop and said they won't be in on a specific day because they have spent all night at the Casino and then there are those that have come in and been sent home because they are in no condition to work.

CunningLinguist
19-04-2014, 09:21 AM
What I find really sad it the number of working ladies that seem to spend all their spare time at the Casino gambling.

I know some who have phoned into the shop and said they won't be in on a specific day because they have spent all night at the Casino and then there are those that have come in and been sent home because they are in no condition to work.
Hmm,, casino might be good for getting a discount from a desperate WL ...

refokkused
19-04-2014, 09:46 AM
Unless I'm hanging out in the wrong area, I can't say I've seen too many WL's gambling at the Star? hehe maybe i need to get into the high roller tables?

IExperiment
19-04-2014, 10:03 AM
I don't think they are watching you brother !

Not when you are winning $2,000!

If you won $200,000 it may be different !

Cheers

Anything over 40K will get their attention 200K they make sure you stay there.

IExperiment
19-04-2014, 10:04 AM
Unless I'm hanging out in the wrong area, I can't say I've seen too many WL's gambling at the Star? hehe maybe i need to get into the high roller tables?

Most like the pokies which is time wasting, I dont know why they like to look at a number or pictures going round and round ...lol... they could sit there for hours damn

Oneonone
19-04-2014, 10:38 AM
Most like the pokies which is time wasting, I dont know why they like to look at a number or pictures going round and round ...lol... they could sit there for hours damn

The ones I know off are big gamblers so they get special treatment they aren't playing the porkies

IExperiment
19-04-2014, 10:48 AM
The ones I know off are big gamblers so they get special treatment they aren't playing the porkies

Yes I know what you mean, I have seen many ML who likes Pokies.
I also know a mamasan who like gambling.

Oneonone
20-04-2014, 09:23 AM
I believe in luck bro! If I go gambling which is very rare then I set a limit before I go and when its gone I leave and if I get lucky I still have the money I started with when I got there.

Prometheus_haha
16-09-2014, 10:17 PM
I have been going to the casino in the last few weeks. Have noticed this hot Vietnamese MILF playing roulette. She is a stunner. I think she would be about late 30's to early 40's. I have exchanged a few words with her, just chit chat, nothing more. What I notice is she wears lots of expensive jewellery and wears a Prada bag. I doubt she is a WL, but I wonder if her husband is some triad boss or something (wears a large diamond ring on her wedding finger).

Am I bad for wanting to bang her?

CunningLinguist
16-09-2014, 10:44 PM
I have been going to the casino in the last few weeks. Have noticed this hot Vietnamese MILF playing roulette. She is a stunner. I think she would be about late 30's to early 40's. I have exchanged a few words with her, just chit chat, nothing more. What I notice is she wears lots of expensive jewellery and wears a Prada bag. I doubt she is a WL, but I wonder if her husband is some triad boss or something (wears a large diamond ring on her wedding finger).

Am I bad for wanting to bang her?

Bad to the boner ...

DarkZero01
16-09-2014, 10:59 PM
Hmm,, casino might be good for getting a discount from a desperate WL ...

How can you tell if the girl is a WL in the casino?
I think most of them young hot ones dresses normally and heads up to clubbing area

Prometheus_haha
16-09-2014, 11:09 PM
also I heard there are some WLs /agencies working in/around the casino, but does anyone know how to find them? wouldn't mind going up to some of the hotel rooms derezzzzz

Kenchoubg
16-09-2014, 11:51 PM
Anyone here teach me how to be a good roulette playerrrrrrr

wilisno
16-09-2014, 11:53 PM
Anyone here teach me how to be a good roulette playerrrrrrr

Just lose a lot of money, the casino will call you a good roulette player ! :miao:

the_boss_king
17-09-2014, 01:19 AM
if your going to gamble at the casino, id stick to baccarat. its the only real game thats close to a 50/50 chance of winning.
and sometimes there are hot streaks or extremely lucky people, if you see them, follow them.
i sometimes also watch and see how much a person bets, and how much chips they have. if they doing good follow em, they must know something or be doing something right

the_boss_king
17-09-2014, 01:20 AM
favourite numbers 28, and 29.

but just bet red or black, its more safe hahahahaha

AHLUNGOR
17-09-2014, 01:29 AM
if your going to gamble at the casino, id stick to baccarat. its the only real game thats close to a 50/50 chance of winning.
and sometimes there are hot streaks or extremely lucky people, if you see them, follow them.
i sometimes also watch and see how much a person bets, and how much chips they have. if they doing good follow em, they must know something or be doing something right

That's is not a bad way to play !!

If some one is winning and have lots of chips on the table and he is betting like $1,000 a hand , follow him a few hands, if he doubles up, you double up too, don't be too greedy, get a small winning target, say $500 or $1,000, you reach and you go and have some fun with the money !

Most importantly is to set a betting limits like $200 or $300! Once the money are gone, walk away, you have your chance and your fun!

Never , never , never withdraw more cash at the casino to try to win your money back, you won't and will lose more!

If you lose all your cash, walk away, don't withdraw more money until you get back to the city, then have a nice massage RnT or have a fuck, you will feel much better than losing another $500 or $1,000

Just my two cents

Cheers

Prometheus_haha
18-09-2014, 07:58 AM
c'mon guys, I need more help, I can't get the MILF out of my mind!!!

Prometheus_haha
19-09-2014, 11:21 PM
goddamn she was at the casino tonight!!
she is so hot I want her!!!

Potluck2.0
21-09-2014, 06:02 PM
The last time i played baccarat i followed some hardcore Chinese dudes with lots of chips and promptly lost $300 in about 5 minutes. They must've lost thousands but it didn't phase them one bit, they had heaps more where it came from.

Felt like a total chump after that, played a bit of pokies to calm down and process wtf happened at the baccarat table. Pokies felt like a kids game after baccarat.

as a lifelong gambling addict since i was old enough to gamble who's off it, then relapses, then is off it again all i can say the casino is literally the devils lair. don't go there, especially the new upgrade star where all the minimum bets are half a nude Rnt punt

CunningLinguist
21-09-2014, 06:09 PM
The last time i played baccarat i followed some hardcore Chinese dudes with lots of chips and promptly lost $300 in about 5 minutes. They must've lost thousands but it didn't phase them one bit, they had heaps more where it came from.

Felt like a total chump after that, played a bit of pokies to calm down and process wtf happened at the baccarat table. Pokies felt like a kids game after baccarat.

as a lifelong gambling addict since i was old enough to gamble who's off it, then relapses, then is off it again all i can say the casino is literally the devils lair. don't go there, especially the new upgrade star where all the minimum bets are half a nude Rnt punt

They were probably laundering some money ...

Good_guy_Greg
21-09-2014, 08:59 PM
is it more embarassing to bump into a friend at a shop or at the casino where he sees you putting up large bets?

Kirito
21-09-2014, 09:06 PM
Shouldnt be embarrassed. Either way you're ballin' and should high five each other

faruk
23-09-2014, 11:04 PM
are dealers allowed to date customers? anyone been successful here?

I saw a mad hot asian dealer tonight :grimace:

the_boss_king
25-09-2014, 02:22 AM
my biggest win on pokies machine would be 14k. i got 5 crocodiles feature paying 2500 a tree.
but this was like 3 years ago. but still my biggest ever pokies win to date :D

the_boss_king
25-09-2014, 02:26 AM
That's is not a bad way to play !!

If some one is winning and have lots of chips on the table and he is betting like $1,000 a hand , follow him a few hands, if he doubles up, you double up too, don't be too greedy, get a small winning target, say $500 or $1,000, you reach and you go and have some fun with the money !

Most importantly is to set a betting limits like $200 or $300! Once the money are gone, walk away, you have your chance and your fun!



Never , never , never withdraw more cash at the casino to try to win your money back, you won't and will lose more!

If you lose all your cash, walk away, don't withdraw more money until you get back to the city, then have a nice massage RnT or have a fuck, you will feel much better than losing another $500 or $1,000

Just my two cents

Cheers


honestly my saying is you gotta be a player to win.

also bet big, win big. bet small loose small. but it goes both ways.

the best feeling is winning and then going to any of the shops for free. then grabbing food after hahahaha

i get quite hungry after.. do you get that too?

AHLUNGOR
25-09-2014, 09:30 AM
honestly my saying is you gotta be a player to win.

also bet big, win big. bet small loose small. but it goes both ways.

the best feeling is winning and then going to any of the shops for free. then grabbing food after hahahaha

i get quite hungry after.. do you get that too?


No doubt the winning feelings are great and very addictive , but unfortunately they are few and far between, and you have a lot more losing feelings to cope with: those sick to the stomach feelings to the point of wanting to vomit , regret, regret, regret and fucking angry and mad about yourself - especially when you could have and should have walked away when you were $500 or $1,000 in front but you didn't and gamble on and lose everything back plus your own $500, then Max out on your Visa card , then your MasterCard and then every other card in your wallet !!!

Sounds familiar ??

Now multiply that by 10-20 times and see how you would feel about yourself!

the_boss_king
25-09-2014, 12:45 PM
No doubt the winning feelings are great and very addictive , but unfortunately they are few and far between, and you have a lot more losing feelings to cope with: those sick to the stomach feelings to the point of wanting to vomit , regret, regret, regret and fucking angry and mad about yourself - especially when you could have and should have walked away when you were $500 or $1,000 in front but you didn't and gamble on and lose everything back plus your own $500, then Max out on your Visa card , then your MasterCard and then every other card in your wallet !!!

Sounds familiar ??

Now multiply that by 10-20 times and see how you would feel about yourself!


you sound like you talk from expirience?

honestlty, i use to be a high roller at the casino. all i use to do is win win win..

but now a days i hardly gamble, i guess you can say my luck has run out...

but in most cases i think luck and your gut feeling has a lot to do with winning...

AHLUNGOR
25-09-2014, 02:11 PM
you sound like you talk from expirience?

honestlty, i use to be a high roller at the casino. all i use to do is win win win..

but now a days i hardly gamble, i guess you can say my luck has run out...

but in most cases i think luck and your gut feeling has a lot to do with winning...



Yeah, was a gambling addict or problem gambler or whatever name tag you can throw at me, was very very lucky to get out of the shit hole that I was in and never to return to the Star City ( I only visit casino out of town so they were just one off and minimum damage). I still bet on footy and horses but it's like $10 each way or a $20 multi with Swans and Rooster. So still try to have some fun but no longer thinking of winning big (I used to try to win enough money to pay off the mortgage, now I try to win $100 for a punt................lol) - Big winning bet, sure, why not, but I leave that to the lotto entries which is $23.85 every week !!

:cool2:

DarkZero01
25-09-2014, 10:22 PM
goddamn she was at the casino tonight!!
she is so hot I want her!!!

bro pro
HOLD YOURSELF TOGETHER!!!
or just don't go to the casino for a couple of months, try to forget her and move on

DarkZero01
25-09-2014, 10:25 PM
Yeah, was a gambling addict or problem gambler or whatever name tag you can throw at me, was very very lucky to get out of the shit hole that I was in and never to return to the Star City ( I only visit casino out of town so they were just one off and minimum damage). I still bet on footy and horses but it's like $10 each way or a $20 multi with Swans and Rooster. So still try to have some fun but no longer thinking of winning big (I used to try to win enough money to pay off the mortgage, now I try to win $100 for a punt................lol) - Big winning bet, sure, why not, but I leave that to the lotto entries which is $23.85 every week !!

:cool2:

you can also buy lotto , and lets hope a bro here would win the 15mil tonight for the powerball and SHOUT US A PUNT!!! if he wins

AHLUNGOR
26-09-2014, 12:15 AM
you can also buy lotto , and lets hope a bro here would win the 15mil tonight for the powerball and SHOUT US A PUNT!!! if he wins

Sure, if I win lotto, there are plenty of brothers here I like to buy them a beer and treat them to a punt too!

But first thing first I would give a $100k to Jenny Kim to get more needed treatment !

the_boss_king
26-09-2014, 02:34 AM
Yeah, was a gambling addict or problem gambler or whatever name tag you can throw at me, was very very lucky to get out of the shit hole that I was in and never to return to the Star City ( I only visit casino out of town so they were just one off and minimum damage). I still bet on footy and horses but it's like $10 each way or a $20 multi with Swans and Rooster. So still try to have some fun but no longer thinking of winning big (I used to try to win enough money to pay off the mortgage, now I try to win $100 for a punt................lol) - Big winning bet, sure, why not, but I leave that to the lotto entries which is $23.85 every week !!

:cool2:


but yeah when i gamble these days i try to win enough money to go for free hahahaha.. i think thats the dream lol

bro thats your mistake for going for the roosters...

the doggies are going all the way this year !!!!!

the_boss_king
26-09-2014, 02:35 AM
goddamn she was at the casino tonight!!
she is so hot I want her!!!

whats her name?

i know quite a few people who work there including dealers, bartenders and waitresses

CunningLinguist
26-09-2014, 08:04 AM
whats her name?

i know quite a few people who work there including dealers, bartenders and waitresses

Are you the pit boss king :)

rooter
27-09-2014, 09:52 AM
Having a short holiday in Surfers.
Had a big night at Jupiters ended up around $2000 up.
Won most of it on a really old school poker machine.
It was literally a dinosaur from the 1980s with graphics straight out of Space Invaders.
The pics were graphics of dinosaurs.
Never seen this in Sydney before.
Anyone know which machine I mean?
Anyway I won around 1500 on it and won around 600 on a brand new state of the art Playboy themed pokie.
All good so will be back in Sydney next week with 2000 punter dollars.

AHLUNGOR
27-09-2014, 11:48 AM
Having a short holiday in Surfers.
Had a big night at Jupiters ended up around $2000 up.
Won most of it on a really old school poker machine.
It was literally a dinosaur from the 1980s with graphics straight out of Space Invaders.
The pics were graphics of dinosaurs.
Never seen this in Sydney before.
Anyone know which machine I mean?
Anyway I won around 1500 on it and won around 600 on a brand new state of the art Playboy themed pokie.
All good so will be back in Sydney next week with 2000 punter dollars.


Great one Brother rooter, enjoy your winnings !!

Just in case you are feeling warm and fuzzy !!


http://www.oopseydaisyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/warm-fuzzies_lid-picture.jpg


And perhaps kind and generous in heart as well! This may be handy for you ?


Account name: S.Kim
Bank: Commonwealth
Bsb: 062-016
Acct. no. 1075 6113

Please be kind with any donation.


Cheers

:smile:

Midnight_Prowl
27-09-2014, 12:02 PM
Wot is the story with this bro???



Great one Brother rooter, enjoy your winnings !!

Just in case you are feeling warm and fuzzy !!


http://www.oopseydaisyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/warm-fuzzies_lid-picture.jpg


And perhaps kind and generous in heart as well! This may be handy for you ?




Cheers

:smile:

the_boss_king
27-09-2014, 04:46 PM
Are you the pit boss king :)

no I'm not lol. just a frequent regular before hahaha

AHLUNGOR
28-09-2014, 02:00 AM
Wot is the story with this bro???

Hi there brother MP,

You haven't heard about the appeal for Miss Jenny Kim?

She is the lovely Korean lady while working for 127 a few years back who got attacked by some guy and was seriously burnt with petrol.........

The forum here has been raising some money to help her out! If you can, please give generously.

Thank you .

Midnight_Prowl
28-09-2014, 06:48 AM
Ok bro,

Wow that was her... Poor thing as Korean I'm gonna donate bit more than I should.

People donation r tax deductible so all those rich ppl please donate and keep ur recipt!!!

Nice work ahlungor bro



Hi there brother MP,

You haven't heard about the appeal for Miss Jenny Kim?

She is the lovely Korean lady while working for 127 a few years back who got attacked by some guy and was seriously burnt with petrol.........

The forum here has been raising some money to help her out! If you can, please give generously.

Thank you .

wilisno
28-09-2014, 07:38 AM
Ok bro,

Wow that was her... Poor thing as Korean I'm gonna donate bit more than I should.

People donation r tax deductible so all those rich ppl please donate and keep ur recipt!!!

Nice work ahlungor bro
Tax deductible donation only applies to registered charity organization, not to an individual ! But for a good cause, we don't need that incentive, it's a worthwhile cause on its own !

Here's the details :




Name : S. Kim
Bank : Commonwealth Bank
BSB : 062-016
Acc. no. 1075 6113

faruk
30-09-2014, 01:14 AM
There is a real cunt of a security guard I saw at the casino tonight. He is about 50 years old, six foot and fat with glasses and a few strands of grey hair.

Every time he sees me he stops me to check my id even though I look late 20's. Every other security lets me in without asking for id.

Tonight I saw him and he let me walk in but called me back after I had walked a few metres in. He checks my id for 5 mins, tells me not to smile and insisted I answer his question when he asked if I was a regular. Then he gives me id to his lady partner to check and she lets me in no probs.

Everyone watch out for this cunt and avoid him. Really puts a damper on the experience especially if you lose. Fuck them.

the_boss_king
30-09-2014, 01:52 AM
There is a real cunt of a security guard I saw at the casino tonight. He is about 50 years old, six foot and fat with glasses and a few strands of grey hair.

Every time he sees me he stops me to check my id even though I look late 20's. Every other security lets me in without asking for id.

Tonight I saw him and he let me walk in but called me back after I had walked a few metres in. He checks my id for 5 mins, tells me not to smile and insisted I answer his question when he asked if I was a regular. Then he gives me id to his lady partner to check and she lets me in no probs.

Everyone watch out for this cunt and avoid him. Really puts a damper on the experience especially if you lose. Fuck them.

sorry that keeps happening to you bro.

but maybe next time try another entry point, as there is a few.

faruk
30-09-2014, 02:17 PM
Last month I had an awesome winning streak but this month I have lost it all back! Truly un-fucking-believable! Everything I bet on, it turns out to be the opposite! This shit is fucking rigged!!!

AHLUNGOR
30-09-2014, 05:11 PM
Last month I had an awesome winning streak but this month I have lost it all back! Truly un-fucking-believable! Everything I bet on, it turns out to be the opposite! This shit is fucking rigged!!!



Well then, please put all your money on the Bulldogs next......................haha !

harmony
30-09-2014, 05:30 PM
"Every time he sees me he stops me to check my id even though I look late 20's. Every other security lets me in without asking for id"

Could be worse. I hate those places that scan your Drivers licence. I hate identity theft

If I won Powerball (I lost my job this year), I would invite the 10 bros on this forum who have been good to me, to a good party

What happens on the boat stays on the boat. And no video. And no SMH hahah

You 10 know who you are

AHLUNGOR
30-09-2014, 06:04 PM
"Every time he sees me he stops me to check my id even though I look late 20's. Every other security lets me in without asking for id"

Could be worse. I hate those places that scan your Drivers licence. I hate identity theft

If I won Powerball (I lost my job this year), I would invite the 10 bros on this forum who have been good to me, to a good party

What happens on the boat stays on the boat. And no video. And no SMH hahah

You 10 know who you are



Have you got a job now ??

faruk
10-10-2014, 07:32 AM
omg I went to the casino last night and got talking to a mad hawt asian dealer!!

It wasn't like, just professional client talk, she was laughing a lot and making sure her supervisor wasn't looking type of talk! Daaaaaaammmmmmm :grimace::slobber::love:

garfield
10-10-2014, 08:11 AM
omg I went to the casino last night and got talking to a mad hawt asian dealer!!

It wasn't like, just professional client talk, she was laughing a lot and making sure her supervisor wasn't looking type of talk! Daaaaaaammmmmmm :grimace::slobber::love:

Did you ask when is the end of her shift. and if you win you could have said to buy her drinks or share your winnings.

the_boss_king
10-10-2014, 10:36 AM
omg I went to the casino last night and got talking to a mad hawt asian dealer!!

It wasn't like, just professional client talk, she was laughing a lot and making sure her supervisor wasn't looking type of talk! Daaaaaaammmmmmm :grimace::slobber::love:

what was the name of the hot dealer lol

Good_guy_Greg
10-10-2014, 09:21 PM
omg I went to the casino last night and got talking to a mad hawt asian dealer!!

It wasn't like, just professional client talk, she was laughing a lot and making sure her supervisor wasn't looking type of talk! Daaaaaaammmmmmm :grimace::slobber::love:

What game you play?

faruk
16-10-2014, 09:30 PM
Did you ask when is the end of her shift. and if you win you could have said to buy her drinks or share your winnings.

nah gobro, but I saw her again last night!!!

It was quick tho, lots of laughing for no reason, stealing glances at each other as she deals, and twice now she keeps telling me how many minutes left in her shift...is this a siggggnnnnnn??? :grimace:

faruk
17-10-2014, 10:07 PM
nah gobro, but I saw her again last night!!!

It was quick tho, lots of laughing for no reason, stealing glances at each other as she deals, and twice now she keeps telling me how many minutes left in her shift...is this a siggggnnnnnn??? :grimace:

Brothers I saw her again tonight!

We were chatting for a long time, but hard to ask her out or for her number as her supervisor was standing nearby. Lots of laughing and teasing, and asking personal questions. When she changed tables, she turned around to look at me and laugh. Does she sound interested??? :smile:

Prometheus_haha
19-10-2014, 06:42 AM
Brothers I saw her again tonight!

We were chatting for a long time, but hard to ask her out or for her number as her supervisor was standing nearby. Lots of laughing and teasing, and asking personal questions. When she changed tables, she turned around to look at me and laugh. Does she sound interested??? :smile:

It sounds like it, but what do you guys talk about?

faruk
19-10-2014, 09:26 PM
alright boys, I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna walk up to her this week when she's got an empty table and ask her out

question is, what do I do if she says no? Come on guys, serious answers only, I neeeeed this! :grimace:

goulash
19-10-2014, 10:02 PM
Bro, you will never win from gambling unless you quit for good after your winning streak. The mathematical laws of probability are against you. Those laws, and the security team watching you through the cameras in the ceiling.

:-)


Last month I had an awesome winning streak but this month I have lost it all back! Truly un-fucking-believable! Everything I bet on, it turns out to be the opposite! This shit is fucking rigged!!!

goulash
19-10-2014, 10:04 PM
You need a witty come back to keep the conversation going. Trouble with this one is that you've been building up to it for a while so you're bound to fuck it up. Next time you see a target, go for it. Who dares wins.


alright boys, I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna walk up to her this week when she's got an empty table and ask her out

question is, what do I do if she says no? Come on guys, serious answers only, I neeeeed this! :grimace:

Good_guy_Greg
20-10-2014, 09:49 PM
I was at the casino tonight, saw two young Asian guys, couldn't have been more than 25, stack loads of $1000 and $500 chips at a baccarat table. One of them must've had $20-30k on it.

He won.

I talked to a dealer about it, and he said some really interesting things:

1. When you win that much, you start to expect it, and winning anything less becomes meaningless.

2. He was sure they'd be back, and that when they do come back, they will lose. He told me a guy won $120k once. He came back the next night and lost $1m.

3. People disrespect money in a casino.

I thought the last point was particularly interesting. Do we have to respect money? Do you think you respect money?

Also interested on any thoughts you might have about the other two points.

garfield
21-10-2014, 08:26 AM
Last time I was at the star casino, I was not watching asian guys gambling but rather watching asian girls. Spot two hot asian chicks walking around, pretty sure they are hookers looking for winning gamblers who would throw money at them or least have them stayed overnight.

faruk
23-10-2014, 07:06 AM
ok bros, so here's the story:

I went there a few nights ago and saw her. I walked up to her table, and we both smiled, I started talking to her without playing, but her supervisor was nearby and could hear what we were saying, so I was just making small talk. I then sat down at the end of the table to be a bit far away from the supervisor, and we kept talking, now more about herself and her past.

Then some guys came over and played. After every time she waits for the ball to land, she always faces me and looks at me. When I look back at her, we both just start laughing for no reason. After a while I decided the other guys weren't leaving any time soon, so I left the table quietly and went to another table. When she went on a break, she seemed to be looking out for me, and when she saw me at another table, made a joke to me.

bros reckon I got any chancezzz? She does seem like the friendly type, so not sure if she is being interested or friendly :grimace:

CunningLinguist
23-10-2014, 08:18 AM
She likes you faruk, be cool and talk to her some more!

AHLUNGOR
23-10-2014, 08:47 AM
No chance mate!

Just let her go and don't get her into any trouble ! The Casino has very strict rules on employee customer relationships, you think you are the first one to try to pick up a chick there ??

Cheers

garfield
23-10-2014, 08:54 AM
No chance mate!

Just let her go and don't get her into any trouble ! The Casino has very strict rules on employee customer relationships, you think you are the first one to try to pick up a chick there ??

Cheers

Best chance to pick up a chic there is to get some winnings on the table, thank her and tell her to meet you up after her shift as you want to give her a good tip.
If she bites then what happens next is up to you.

AHLUNGOR
23-10-2014, 09:25 AM
Best chance to pick up a chic there is to get some winnings on the table, thank her and tell her to meet you up after her shift as you want to give her a good tip.
If she bites then what happens next is up to you.

Hell No !!

I knew two girls got fired for exactly that ! Tips and gifts are prohibited !

Years ago, when I used to visit Canberra casino regularly, there was a lovely lady called Lenka, she dealt a Royal Flush to a punter on the poker table and he won over $150K!

He bought her a nice watch as a gift, she accepted it, the casino found outand she was sacked!

The other girl Michelle got a stalker but she didn't report him to security, he was waiting for her outside and security saw them, she was also terminated !

True story.

Leave them alone mate. Don't get them into trouble !

Cheers

kingwally
23-10-2014, 08:49 PM
Hell No !!

I knew two girls got fired for exactly that ! Tips and gifts are prohibited !

Years ago, when I used to visit Canberra casino regularly, there was a lovely lady called Lenka, she dealt a Royal Flush to a punter on the poker table and he won over $150K!

He bought her a nice watch as a gift, she accepted it, the casino found outand she was sacked!

The other girl Michelle got a stalker but she didn't report him to security, he was waiting for her outside and security saw them, she was also terminated !

True story.

Leave them alone mate. Don't get them into trouble !

Cheers

Agree with Ahlungor...she will get sacked for sure if she accepts any tips/presents from any customer. Try to get her phone number if you can get away with it but don't push the issue if she doesn't give it to you.

CunningLinguist
23-10-2014, 09:36 PM
Just talk to her, if your cool you can ask her out on a date.

avatar1
24-10-2014, 12:28 AM
Just talk to her, if your cool you can ask her out on a date.

I want to know why you haven't already asked!

faruk
26-10-2014, 09:01 AM
I want to know why you haven't already asked!

Because her supervisor is standing too close and can hear us :cry:

refokkused
26-10-2014, 10:04 AM
nothing ventured, nothing gained!

faruk
16-11-2014, 08:20 AM
I have let everyone down :(

I still have not had the guts to ask. I did tell her my facebook and ask her to add me. She still hasn't added me but I think due to my privacy settings, she can't find me (other people have told me this before). I saw her last night, thinking she may say something like "hey I couldn't find you on fb" but she never brought it up :cry::cry::cry:

faruk
16-11-2014, 06:21 PM
Was at the casino today playing roulette.

This guy bet $60-70 on numbers 28, 29 and 7 every spin for about 10 spins and loses. Next spin he bets his chips on 17, 25, 34. It landed on 7.

That is just cruel!

faruk
17-11-2014, 08:54 PM
I have let everyone down :(

I still have not had the guts to ask. I did tell her my facebook and ask her to add me. She still hasn't added me but I think due to my privacy settings, she can't find me (other people have told me this before). I saw her last night, thinking she may say something like "hey I couldn't find you on fb" but she never brought it up :cry::cry::cry:

com on bros! Looking for advise!!!

AHLUNGOR
18-11-2014, 12:11 AM
Was at the casino today playing roulette.

This guy bet $60-70 on numbers 28, 29 and 7 every spin for about 10 spins and loses. Next spin he bets his chips on 17, 25, 34. It landed on 7.

That is just cruel!

Yeap, roulette is a very fuck up game, lost so much money on it over the years!!

You can bet from 22 all the way to 25, it will just land on 17!

And if you place more bets and covered the orphanes as well (1, 6, 9, 14, 17, 20, 31, 34), yes you guess it, it will most like just landed on 27 or 33!!

It's such a bloody fuck up game !!

icegel
18-11-2014, 08:43 AM
Any bro winning roulette in any RSL club machine? Not the real table

Good_guy_Greg
18-11-2014, 08:19 PM
Was at the casino today playing roulette.

This guy bet $60-70 on numbers 28, 29 and 7 every spin for about 10 spins and loses. Next spin he bets his chips on 17, 25, 34. It landed on 7.

That is just cruel!

That's really fucked up. Sometimes I think they are watching on camera and doing it on purpose.

the_boss_king
18-11-2014, 11:40 PM
can't wait to go macau and gamble and punt and repeat every day ahhahahahahahhaa

faruk
01-12-2014, 08:29 PM
so i finally ask her out...sort of...

was talking to her as i was playing, and at the end when I left, I go we should do coffee after one of your shifts next time, and she nodded but didn't say anything, but her supervisor was nearby so maybe that was why.

Anyone think nod is good? Or was she just doing it to be polite?

faruk
02-12-2014, 09:10 PM
I need your advice bros!!!

TROLL
02-12-2014, 11:14 PM
Get some balls. You say your a gambler... Roll the dice. Worst she can say is faruk the hell off. Then at least you know...next target.