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altgourami
03-12-2012, 05:17 PM
That is all

a very angry altgourami

Sextus
03-12-2012, 05:24 PM
We'll need a bit more detail I'm afraid altgourami, if you want us to follow your advice.

EvolutionTroll
03-12-2012, 05:38 PM
haha in terms of what? There are definitely heaps of factors that I can come across without thinking

Littlewonder
03-12-2012, 05:58 PM
Working Ladies are no different to anyone else most of them are honest but there are some that arn't and one bad apple spoils it for everyone. My advice don't trust anyone particularly when your punting.

Better not to tempt fate, why take a risk, play it safe at all times.

Dont forget some of them are on drugs and you may not know which ones and so they need money for their habit.

I know of them stealing from their work mates so what chance do us punters have.

Jj999
03-12-2012, 06:17 PM
Lol.
Great customer service sometimes is just too much for some guys to handle.
Lol.

reve
03-12-2012, 07:51 PM
That is all

a very angry altgourami

認真就輸了!

Can't just post the chinese because is too short.

wilisno
03-12-2012, 07:54 PM
認真就輸了!

Can't just post the chinese because is too short.

Why do you want to post Chinese ? Bro Altgourami is Caucasian !

reve
03-12-2012, 08:08 PM
Why do you want to post Chinese ? Bro Altgourami is Caucasian !
Ops well it means you should never be serious!

Escort
03-12-2012, 08:16 PM
Ops well it means you should never be serious!

I have been trusting with it for nearly two years,
Now it's approving I am really wrong.

Escort
03-12-2012, 08:18 PM
Sometimes you can't tell what she said is true or not. Or even I know she's lieing I still choose to believe it..

rooter
03-12-2012, 09:33 PM
That is all

a very angry altgourami

This makes no sense to anyone without details.
Maybe you just needed to vent and get it off your chest which is cool, but without details we can't really get much out of this post.

cuimd2
03-12-2012, 09:34 PM
sounds like you got scammed $$ or got a broken heart. do tell us more?

altgourami
03-12-2012, 09:37 PM
Sounds like you are angry for not taking your own advice brother

Never trust or fall for one is the message I was getting from your previous posts, so what happened?

This story is dating back several years ago but it has suddenly re-emerged as an issue - soon to be sorted but I am still seething over the outcome.

altgourami
03-12-2012, 09:38 PM
sounds like you got scammed $$ or got a broken heart. do tell us more?

Being scammed is easily overcome. This one is definitely broken heart territory.

Jj999
03-12-2012, 09:41 PM
Sometimes you can't tell what she said is true or not. Or even I know she's lieing I still choose to believe it..

Bro,
Many people think that girls talking to them very friendly in a shop, is equal to, girl like them.

While this is a very big LOL for me.
Some people just don't get it.
They are getting customer service, nothing more.
Why? PUNTERS want great attitude and/or GFE, etc. who doesn't want that? Can you tell me?
They want it, there is a big demand for that, of course someone or WLs are going to supply that demand.
In the end, they just can't handle it, and hurt themselves. That's okay, that's their own problem. But, if they blame the WL, maybe their home need a mirror. A big one.

If they meet the girl outside, and that girl rip them off. They are getting ripped off because their own choice.

But please don't generalise. WLs might do that. But not all of them. And for WL who do rip customer off outside the shop, most of them did it because the customer present himself as a rich idiot that is prepared to splash money all over your face.
But not only WLs do that. Any girl any job might do that.

Just enjoy it. Remember, inside shop, it is all business.

wilisno
03-12-2012, 09:55 PM
Any girl can rip you off, not just WLs !

Booster
03-12-2012, 10:31 PM
Any girl can rip you off, not just WLs !

He speaks the truth...

And in the words of P!NK.

Funny how the heart can be deceiving
More than just a couple times
Why do we fall in love so easy
Even when it's not right

AHLUNGOR
03-12-2012, 11:18 PM
Any girl can rip you off, not just WLs !

And I know there are some very naive WL/ML got ripped off by some bastard punters who became their boyfriend only to screw all the hard earn money from the silly girls, all in the name of love!!

Or was that for the visa??

Travelmate
03-12-2012, 11:24 PM
i have seen many exceptions too.......

may be i am a silly man.... haha

wilisno
03-12-2012, 11:41 PM
i have seen many exceptions too.......

may be i am a silly man.... haha

That's why I keep defending them ! :miao:


AHLUNGOR

And I know there are some very naive WL/ML got ripped off by some bastard punters who became their boyfriend only to screw all the hard earn money from the silly girls, all in the name of love!!


I've seen quite a few of these too, poor girls !

Jj999
03-12-2012, 11:55 PM
Any girl can rip you off, not just WLs !

Yep.
As I have said in my post.

We always have the same opinion about this matter.

playerz
04-12-2012, 12:00 AM
Being scammed is easily overcome. This one is definitely broken heart territory.

I hear you bro. Best to post some minor details up (if you're game), just coz some others who has gone through the same thing can give you some advise. But judging from my gut instinct, it looks like you need a really good lawyer soon.

altgourami
04-12-2012, 09:05 AM
I will post the story once I can think about it without bursting into tears.

PhoBot
04-12-2012, 09:14 AM
A relationship with a WL should be as follows:

A/ Pay her money
B/ Put your dick inside her
C/ Clean your dick, then go get some real friends.

hell no
04-12-2012, 09:58 AM
I will post the story once I can think about it without bursting into tears.

Give Papa a hug and you'll feel alot better....... Seriously though, wls shouldn't be giving you a hard time, unless they are ladyboys! ( Fuck, some of them have jumbo cocks!! ) LOL.......

I give wls a hard time and they still have that smile on their face, bit of 6 inches meat in them and they're rocking it!!....:shout:

numberonebigsize
04-12-2012, 10:14 AM
Im wondering what you mean by trust..

Would i trust a WL not to rummage through my coat pocket when she's alone in the room and I'm in the shower? Probably

Would i trust the same WL enough to leave my wallet on the table filled with a wad of cash while she was alone in the room? Probably not

Would i trust a WL to treat my inner most feelings and tender heart with care and respect? Lol. No
This sums it all up. There is no way any punter here would leave his wallet on the bed stuffed with cash while he walks 20 yards down the hall to shower.Why? Because you have no idea of her honesty or inner strength of character. YET when some poor schmuk writes a bad A/R or dares to criticise her attitude or behaviour he is rubbished mercilissly whilst the W/L is defended as JOAN OF ARC /MOTHER THERESA /FLORENCE NIGHTINGALE all wrapped up in one package. Hypocritical/double standards??? I THINK SO!!!!!!

Jj999
04-12-2012, 11:21 AM
This sums it all up. There is no way any punter here would leave his wallet on the bed stuffed with cash while he walks 20 yards down the hall to shower.Why? Because you have no idea of her honesty or inner strength of character. YET when some poor schmuk writes a bad A/R or dares to criticise her attitude or behaviour he is rubbished mercilissly whilst the W/L is defended as JOAN OF ARC /MOTHER THERESA /FLORENCE NIGHTINGALE all wrapped up in one package. Hypocritical/double standards??? I THINK SO!!!!!!

I do leave my wallet in a brothel room while I'm in the shower room.
I know they make lots of cash every week.
I might have few thousands in my wallet, but if someone is going to steal, of course it isn't going to be all. That's a very stupid one. I know it right away.
If they are going to steal, then it's maximum 4-6 $50 notes.
So, do you think ladies making thousands/week, would even be bothered to trade the risk of being caught (and get a bad reputation) for $300?
You know that is a criminal offence.
Lol.

And obviously, I trust them more (about few thousands $ in the wallet), than guys at bar/pub.
Lol.

I don't have comments for your joan of arc and mother theresa.
That's up to you what to write, but I guess what you write in your post, could be considered as flaming.

AHLUNGOR
04-12-2012, 12:37 PM
I think if you are a regular of a certain high-end shop, and you know the girls well, there is a basis for some trust.

But I also think the original point has an element of truth - all things being equal a WL is probably less trustworthy than any other girl.

If you met a WL on the street, took her home, and left a cash filled wallet on the dresser while she was alone in the room -I think there is a reasonable chance she might steal money. If you met an ordinary girl in a club and she was in the same situation she might also steal money, but i think the WL would be more likely to do so.

Why? - combination of possible factors - including increased likelihood of drug depedency, and a generally more cynical and jaded outlook on life, etc.

I don't mean to tar all WLs with the same brush, but as a general overall tendency i think its probably true.

I wasn't going to weight into this debate but since you mention about the trustworthyness of a WLs I want to give my two cents, I totally agree with Brother Jj999's earlier comments, most of these working ladies actually earn a lot more money than you and I, and eventhough they work in the sex industry, they are providing a great human services to the community and they use their bodies and services to earn a honest living, they should not be trusted more or less than any other ladies, they deserve the usual respects we give everyone else.

The two example you brought up: a street hooker and a random club girl are extreme cases, I think 90% of the brothers in this forum when they punt, do not pick up street walkers and if you pick up an one night stand from the club, it's up to you to be careful with your valuables.

So your statement of: "but i think the WL would be more likely to do so." is very questionable.

Personally I have been punting for more than 20 years and I have never been stolen on anything in a shop and no reason to be on high alert. But I also take extra care if I have a big amount of cash on me (like after a big win in the casino!), I will put most of the money away in other pockets (like back pockets of my pants where there is a button) and just leave a few hundreds in the wallet. That is Not to say the WL/ML are high risk, I am just being careful.

My two cents.

Cheers

wilisno
04-12-2012, 01:04 PM
You can at least know where a WL works, she's not likely to quit her job for a small amount of money, whereas a girl picked up from the street might disappear forever !

Sextus
04-12-2012, 01:05 PM
"When some poor schmuk writes a bad A/R or dares to criticise her attitude or behaviour he is rubbished mercilissly whilst the W/L is defended as JOAN OF ARC /MOTHER THERESA /FLORENCE NIGHTINGALE all wrapped up in one package. Hypocritical/double standards??? I THINK SO!!!!!!"


Numberonebigsize, you must be thinking of the recent fabulous Sammi threads and poor KickAss who complained he was later 'hung, drawn and quartered" after he posted a few negative remarks about his experience with Sammi (that weren't even very negative at all.)

But I think our defence of the ladies shows one of the best qualties we men have. Our chivalry. It is a positive quality, a little self-deluding perhaps, but not hypocritical, because our protective instincts towards beautiful members of the weaker sex is natural to us. It is a poetic quality we have. It makes us feel good, and it makes the ladies feel good too.

As for the rest of this debate, I am honestly more comfortable living my life in a state of trust and seeing and believing in the good of people.

wilisno
04-12-2012, 01:16 PM
"When some poor schmuk writes a bad A/R or dares to criticise her attitude or behaviour he is rubbished mercilissly whilst the W/L is defended as JOAN OF ARC /MOTHER THERESA /FLORENCE NIGHTINGALE all wrapped up in one package. Hypocritical/double standards??? I THINK SO!!!!!!"


Numberonebigsize, you must be thinking of the recent fabulous Sammi threads and poor KickAss who complained he was later 'hung, drawn and quartered" after he posted a few negative remarks about his experience with Sammi (that weren't even very negative at all.)

But I think our defence of the ladies shows one of the best qualties we men have. Our chivalry. It is a positive quality, a little self-deluding perhaps, but not hypocritical, because our protective instincts towards beautiful members of the weaker sex is natural to us. It is a poetic quality we have. It makes us feel good, and it makes the ladies feel good too.

As for the rest of this debate, I am honestly more comfortable living my life in a state of trust and seeing and believing in the good of people.
You took the words right out of my mouth bro !

Sextus
04-12-2012, 03:10 PM
Watch out Moonlighter, don't you know are dealing with Galactus, Devourer of Worlds?

As per my comments above, it is truly better to live your life with an open, trusting heart. The rewards are far greater than the very, very rare losses. If I lived ten years with an open heart regarding working ladies, and lost $200 out of my wallet to one of them in that period, that is still the world's greatest value in your own favour I think.

Nevetheless, I've had no problem at all with WL's, ever.

I like them, alot. I might like to talk filth to them sometimes, throw in a sexy insult to them now and then, but that is just a sexual game. Afterwards, I am just lovely, gentle Sextus once more.

Jj999
04-12-2012, 03:35 PM
If you think about it statistically, Im willing to bet that WLs have a far higher rate of drug dependency than the general population. This is a major reason why many girls choose to get into the business. I think an addiction to drugs could potentially make some WLs more likely to resort to theft, if the opportunity arose. As you say though, if they work in a shop theres likely to be less opportunity.

Im not suggesting WLs should not be trusted under any circumstances. Indeed, there are some WLs i trust completely. I just think its just sensible, particularly when seeing an ML for the first time, to realise the factors at play that can influence a persons decison to adopt this lifestyle.

You know bro.
I was going to say the same thing as bro Ahlungor.
I want to ask, how many of you guys have lost money or anything in a brothel? Or when you go to incall services of escort agencies?

But I felt this would stray too far off bro altgourami feeling to a certain WL.

But then, I saw the title.
Never trust a WL.
Okay. Then this is not straying too far.

So, I tell you bro. Don't only look for their faults. Okay, you are doing generalising, then I'm going to do that.
Why you keep looking for the bad?
Why don't you also see the good?
It's not all bad in a WL. You know? You think, why they would work a job that is embarassing for them? They are females. Do you think they are happy to be seen naked by >6 males everyday?
It's money. Why for money, they would go very far.
It's because they have something, that they love, they care for, and in dire need of money.
If you can think bad things a WL might have, why can't you think the good thing?

Do you think, the reason for them to work, is just as simple as drug dependency? Or gambling addiction?
LoL.
I would bet my own dick, significant portion of them is because they need money for something they love, they care for, anything.
Only god knows who are they.

Drugs dependency.
I HAVEN'T seen AN EVIDENCE. A STATISTICAL STUDY, showing that WLs have higher rate of drugs addiction.
But, I can also see why they are more prone to drugs addiction. However, I believe, what I SEE is quite different to the ond you see.

Do you know, some people start drugs because of depression?
And they keep using drugs because of depression?
So, unless extreme cases of hopeless addicts, i guess, most WL who use drugs, and continue to use them, because of depression. Just because reason of minor-intermediate addiction, I don't think anyone would do this job.
What depression? A lots of factor contribute to that.
By the way, hopeless addicts, won't get a job in sex industry. Owner eyes aren't blind. They know who aren't to be hired. And a hopeless addict, you can identify them with a quick glance. Right? Are you getting my logic?

Factors that I can think of, in no particular order of importance except my own desire to write it:

- ONE. Customers who judge them real bad. For me, these groups of people, are the real hypocrite. They said WL aren't good, lies, cold heart, etc.
They keep saying bad things. But then, why they keep looking for WLs with good attitude? You want your money to get value. But later get hurt themselves. And blamed everything on the WL.
After that, they look for another WL with great attitude, lovely, GFE, BBBJ, DTBBBJ, DFK, CIMWS, etc. any abbreviation you can think of. maybe next time we would see a WL with the feel of your own secret wife. Maybe the abbrev. would be SWE.

- TWO. The REASON THAT CAUSED THEM to work this job.
This must be a real big reason to make them work this job. True?
And a big problem it is. So, may I ask you, have you ever felt really depressed that you feel you want to die?
That's nothing. This is double of it. Why? Because the problem make them feel better to die, but they can't, they would love to, but because there are other human beings whom they loved, and need them. They think about that, if they have gone to hell, then what would happen to them they love?

- THREE. Bad customers. This is a serious problem.
I don't want to start racism fight here.
So I try my best. And please if you respond to this, DO NOT SAY ANY RACIST WORDS.
Girls have their reason to ban specific customer(s), they don't do it out of random decision made in split second.
I know a lady, that ban specific customers, but still see a couple of regulars of the same group that is banned. Why? Those two are handsome? Hardly. Those two asset are of her preference? Hardly.
Because, those two, she knows that most probably, they won't hurt her.
Why she knows that? Because before, she banned no one. After few months of working, she made that big decision. That is big. Because the group banned was a significant part of her income. That's of course not because some random reason such as FengShui, or Astrology. That's because she has to choose, whether she can reluctantly accept because of their scare, but might be haunted with her traumatic experience.
Apparently, she is the taste of the group being banned.
And don't ask me who she is. She is a memory from the past. A memory ages ago. I forgot her, because she wasn't quite my type.
And I've got my experience of hunting for hidden gem.

Some shop, well, most shops, allow girl to choose. That's the rule. However, have you ever think about shop condition?
What if the shop is filled with significant proportion of customers that is being banned?
What happens, when she reluctantly accept customers that she actually doesn't accept, if everything is doing okay, that's fine. If something bad happen, then the effect is amplified.

So in regards to point number three, and combine it with point number two, do you think, WLs are a product who doesn't have heart? What if you were in her position? How can you run this hard life?
Combined with limited english, limited knowledge of the area, limited knowledge of shops. And also, because of poor financial condition, she also got starts to work very early.

If you later won't turn to drugs as your escape.
We would like to give you a standing ovation.



That's some of the reason. There are heaps more that you can think of.

So do you think, people that is doing all of those sacrifices for their loved one, cared one, is only filled with bad thing?
How about we see ourselves, would we do the same thing if you/me/we were in their position.
Or would we choose to die?

Me, I'm sorry. I'd say, I prefer to die. I never imagined living with pressure like that.
I'd just try to avoid problem like that.



So bro Galactus, how about you start to list the good stuffs?
:smile:

Jj999
04-12-2012, 03:42 PM
It took me forever to write that.

Sorry if that sounds really boring.
But I believe, that would help guys who have prejudice against WL to throw away their prejudice. That means, help you to become a better human.


Not necessarily a better husband tho. :smile: :miao: :cool2:

enigma775
04-12-2012, 03:56 PM
Oh look at this guy jumping to all sorts of ill informed conclusions.

So, did you ever meet a young child who said she wanted to be a WL when she grows up? No. Why? - because women are often forced into this profession as a result of sheer desperation and exposure to the cruelties and inequities of life - including poverty, abuse and drug addiction ... It is these same factors that may make some WLs more likely to feel the need to steal and act dishonestly.

This does not apply to all, or necessarilly even most, WLs. But as a generalised trend would I say that some WLs are more likely to act dishonesty compared to non-WLs? Aye.


I never met a young child who said they wanted to be an accountant when they grew up either. Therefore all accountants must be drug addicts...

AHLUNGOR
04-12-2012, 04:06 PM
This does not apply to all, or necessarilly even most, WLs. But as a generalised trend would I say that some WLs are more likely to act dishonesty compared to non-WLs? Aye.

Hi Brother Galactus,

The first part of your comments were OK, and sure, if some WLs are on drugs and there is an opportunity inside the room with the wallet unattended, she will probably be tempted.

But then I suppose your generalisation should be drug addicts instead of WLs. because as far as I know, there will be less than 5% of all WLs and MLs in Sydney that are drug addicts. Street walkers may be a different story.

Therefore, I have to disagree with your point on: Would I say that some WLs are more likely to act dishonesty compared to non-WLs? Aye.

This is just wrong mate !!

Sextus
04-12-2012, 04:12 PM
I never met a young child who said they wanted to be an accountant when they grew up either. Therefore all accountants must be drug addicts...

Brilliant!

HookedonHookerz
04-12-2012, 04:15 PM
this thread has let me down, i was expecting juicy gossip. Nothing interesting at all.

Jj999
04-12-2012, 04:17 PM
Oh look at this guy jumping to all sorts of ill informed conclusions.

So, did you ever meet a young child who said she wanted to be a WL when she grows up? No. Why? - because women are often forced into this profession as a result of sheer desperation and exposure to the cruelties and inequities of life - including poverty, abuse and drug addiction ... It is these same factors that may make some WLs more likely to feel the need to steal and act dishonestly.

This does not apply to all, or necessarilly even most, WLs. But as a generalised trend would I say that some WLs are more likely to act dishonesty compared to non-WLs? Aye.

How about you think again.

If they know they can steal to earn, why would they work this job?
Stealing is less dehumanising. Dehumanising from the point of view of haters, hypocrites, etc. which I still believe, even though it is somewhat shaken now, you are not one of these

I'll explain to you.
I have a pride.
If one day, I were to have no money. I were out of choices and opportunities.
I would rather die of hunger than to steal.
I would rather die as a human who do no harm to others than as a human who is known to steal.
You may say anything, but I'm a proud creature.
If I were a female, even though being WLs are not stealing, I think my pride, is somewhat a coward. I would rather run away from life than to do that job. I would rather die.

I commend those WLs, they have the guts to do this job. They are women. Same shit as my mom. neither they nor my mom eat rocks. The only significant different, is only a job they had done.
Can I accept my mom if later she revealed to me that she was a WL? Yes, I can. Why not?
What if I change 'mom' to my girlfriend? Yes I can. Why not?
Well, actually my brother was dating a WL few years ago.

And dishonesty, no, I don't believe that. You said it yourself, it doesn't apply maybe even to MOST WL.
So how is that going to differ with a non-WL? (A non-WL is assumed as mostly honest person, in your story. Unless you believe this world is a dream world where everyone is honest, I can still argue about this with you)

You are taking back what you have spit, then you spit it again.
Then, do you think this world is filled with honest people?

Do you know what makes the world go round? It is money. If they choose to be a WL rather than a thief. That means, they still know that it would better to do this than stealing from others.
I know what they felt. I have that pride too, it's just that I don't have the guts to be a WL if I were born as a female.

Jj999
04-12-2012, 04:18 PM
I never met a young child who said they wanted to be an accountant when they grew up either. Therefore all accountants must be drug addicts...

Wow.
Brilliant.
Sir, you are a scholar. Brilliant.
Salute.

I didn't think of a short check-mate response.

AHLUNGOR
04-12-2012, 04:32 PM
this thread has let me down, i was expecting juicy gossip. Nothing interesting at all.

You want juicy stuff ??

Have you read my review in the Private section ??

You may be interested.......haha

Cheers

:smile:

kickass
04-12-2012, 04:37 PM
Being scammed is easily overcome. This one is definitely broken heart territory.

They don't call them "cunts" for nothing !!!

ANY girl can scam you or break your heart. Recently, a mate of mine was *told* on a Saturday morning by his *wife* of 12 years, "I never loved you. I don't know why I married you. You're boring. I'm leaving. You can keep the kids with you."

Her timing was impeccable ... it was on Saturday, the day before Father's Day. He has four kids, all under 10. It was all he could do to call his mum and me. When I arrived he was a bawling mess in the living room with his kids. The bitch had left, apparently to shack up with another man that she had met at a Light Opera Company she had joined.

Now, my friend is a great guy. He works full time, picks kids up from swimming, tennis, or cubs on the way home from work, does all the laundry and the yard at home. He finds time for Nippers on Sunday morning with his son, to build a dolls house for one daughter and a cubby house for another. The list goes on. Of course he's fuckin' boring ... that's what happens when you have kids!!!

He married his childhood sweetheart and spoiled her constantly. I do baby sitting duty 2-3 times every year and his parents also do a few shifts while he took his wife to dinner. On wedding anniversaries he'd make a night of it, booking a hotel in town or having a short break to Melbourne or the Blue Mountains. Fuck, I'd almost marry the guy myself!

... and the bitch said she never even loved him ...

Dude, it can happen to any of us. Just learn to pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and find another girl. The world is fuckin' full of nice girls.

kickass
04-12-2012, 04:45 PM
Jj999,

Yes mate. More generally, I've had things stolen at a brothel. I'm now very careful to do a "count" on the way in ... and on the way out. I take just enough cash for the punt and I make a point of checking all the other items, watch, sunnies, etc, on the way out. Actually, I jam them all into my shoes as I undress and then dump my stinky undies on top ... that's the Kick Ass way, guys ...

A few years ago I lost a watch while punting. It just wasn't there to put on ... I didn't think of it at the time as I was escorted from one of Sydney's finest by a very hot blonde ... I'm also pretty sure that a $50 has been lifted once or twice.

AHLUNGOR
04-12-2012, 04:53 PM
I just want to also point out that the brother who started this thread has not been speaking for a while now, it seems brother Galactus has somehow taken over the debate. Nothing wrong with that, and he mostly making valid points, I just have problems with his generalisations,.

Cheers

kickass
04-12-2012, 04:59 PM
I like to have parties at my place, usually people I know well. And ... in the last 5 years, two girls have stolen from me:

1. First girl stole a money box I had full of $2 coins. I was tipped off by another friend and went around to collect. She claimed she'd added her own money to the collection. I gave her the choice: hand over the lot or we'll get the police over.

2. Another girl, the ex gf of a mate, stole my grandfather's war medals. I didn't even know. Fuckin' cunt! They were in a cigar box. One of those old 1930's ones with a slider piece at the end to reveal a little secret spot for a clipper used to chop the end off cigars. Anyway, the clipper was missing and the damn slider wouldn't stay closed. So, I jammed my business card in there. The girl took the medals and cigar box to a pawn shop in Sydney. Apparently the pawnbroker thought the cigar box was worth more than the medals (perhaps my grandfather wasn't a hero afterall). He took it into the back room to get the end compartment open and my business card fell out. For some reason he got suspicious and decided to call me. Fuck! This bitch had been through the back of my wardrobe to get those. Some very nice police from Glebe met me at the pawnshop and we sorted everything out. I went back to the pawnshop the next day and tipped the two guys working a $20 each. They're really good blokes and didn't want my money, but I insisted. Fuck! There's luck for you !!!

Sextus
04-12-2012, 05:08 PM
this thread has let me down, i was expecting juicy gossip. Nothing interesting at all.


Bro HookedonHookerz, how about KickAss's recent contributions - pretty juicy! Sad, but juicy..

altgourami
04-12-2012, 05:11 PM
Fascinating range of views. I just want to let you all know it's not as bad as all that and I'll survive. The WL in question is now shacked up with a 24 yo in Parramatta overlooking Westfields car park so I personally think she's worse off but then again if he's keeping her nice and juicy who knows... maybe she's better off? I just feel she's lost out to BMWs, harbour views and overseas holidays in return for Western suburbs of Sydney... silly girl.

Jj999
04-12-2012, 05:49 PM
Fascinating range of views. I just want to let you all know it's not as bad as all that and I'll survive. The WL in question is now shacked up with a 24 yo in Parramatta overlooking Westfields car park so I personally think she's worse off but then again if he's keeping her nice and juicy who knows... maybe she's better off? I just feel she's lost out to BMWs, harbour views and overseas holidays in return for Western suburbs of Sydney... silly girl.

Excuse me..
I thought, with your post before..

Sorry. I guess that was misunderstanding in my part. Nothing important.

Nothing bad. It's just whether you are prepared or not. Seems like you prepared for all. Except you... So you lose as a....
Cannot find the right words. You might want to fill in the blanks yourself.

Jj999
04-12-2012, 06:16 PM
I like to have parties at my place, usually people I know well. And ... in the last 5 years, two girls have stolen from me:

1. First girl stole a money box I had full of $2 coins. I was tipped off by another friend and went around to collect. She claimed she'd added her own money to the collection. I gave her the choice: hand over the lot or we'll get the police over.

2. Another girl, the ex gf of a mate, stole my grandfather's war medals. I didn't even know. Fuckin' cunt! They were in a cigar box. One of those old 1930's ones with a slider piece at the end to reveal a little secret spot for a clipper used to chop the end off cigars. Anyway, the clipper was missing and the damn slider wouldn't stay closed. So, I jammed my business card in there. The girl took the medals and cigar box to a pawn shop in Sydney. Apparently the pawnbroker thought the cigar box was worth more than the medals (perhaps my grandfather wasn't a hero afterall). He took it into the back room to get the end compartment open and my business card fell out. For some reason he got suspicious and decided to call me. Fuck! This bitch had been through the back of my wardrobe to get those. Some very nice police from Glebe met me at the pawnshop and we sorted everything out. I went back to the pawnshop the next day and tipped the two guys working a $20 each. They're really good blokes and didn't want my money, but I insisted. Fuck! There's luck for you !!!

Oh okay.
How about some others?

Not saying you support specific views. Just that your personal experience, supported him.
Does not necessarily means that you personally support his view.


And I want to say, I just don't like it when anyone has any prejudice against someone just because of job, age, origin, etc.
Esp. for WLs. While we are posting in this forum because we see WLs, at the same time, we are telling that they are thieves, swindlers, drug addicts, etc.
Man, I feel lucky I can understand their reasons. If not, I would really feel disgusted, because I would feel I am an hypocrite.

Oh by the way, I was doing generalising too bro. Because it was meant to go against bro Galactus' hypothesis.
So that long essays (lol) of my hypothesis, would apply to most WL. More than 50% should be considered 'most'.

Though, out of my own experience, my own samplings from WLs I've met (of course it costs me quite some $ for sessions, to made them believe me so they would tell me about this easily), I believe this particular reason for them to work "because they have someone they cared and/or they loved and in need of money." would apply to at least 80% WL.
By the way, I never intends to get free sex or anything, I was just trying to make them feel more comfortable everytime they meet me, because they know, a friend come to 'visit' her.
But by the time they believe me, 90% they would tell me their reason.

cisco
04-12-2012, 07:09 PM
It took me forever to write that.

Sorry if that sounds really boring.
But I believe, that would help guys who have prejudice against WL to throw away their prejudice. That means, help you to become a better human.


Not necessarily a better husband tho. :smile: :miao: :cool2:

Bro jj999, good comment bro

cisco
04-12-2012, 07:11 PM
You know bro.
I was going to say the same thing as bro Ahlungor.
I want to ask, how many of you guys have lost money or anything in a brothel? Or when you go to incall services of escort agencies?

But I felt this would stray too far off bro altgourami feeling to a certain WL.

But then, I saw the title.
Never trust a WL.
Okay. Then this is not straying too far.

So, I tell you bro. Don't only look for their faults. Okay, you are doing generalising, then I'm going to do that.
Why you keep looking for the bad?
Why don't you also see the good?
It's not all bad in a WL. You know? You think, why they would work a job that is embarassing for them? They are females. Do you think they are happy to be seen naked by >6 males everyday?
It's money. Why for money, they would go very far.
It's because they have something, that they love, they care for, and in dire need of money.
If you can think bad things a WL might have, why can't you think the good thing?

Do you think, the reason for them to work, is just as simple as drug dependency? Or gambling addiction?
LoL.
I would bet my own dick, significant portion of them is because they need money for something they love, they care for, anything.
Only god knows who are they.

Drugs dependency.
I HAVEN'T seen AN EVIDENCE. A STATISTICAL STUDY, showing that WLs have higher rate of drugs addiction.
But, I can also see why they are more prone to drugs addiction. However, I believe, what I SEE is quite different to the ond you see.

Do you know, some people start drugs because of depression?
And they keep using drugs because of depression?
So, unless extreme cases of hopeless addicts, i guess, most WL who use drugs, and continue to use them, because of depression. Just because reason of minor-intermediate addiction, I don't think anyone would do this job.
What depression? A lots of factor contribute to that.
By the way, hopeless addicts, won't get a job in sex industry. Owner eyes aren't blind. They know who aren't to be hired. And a hopeless addict, you can identify them with a quick glance. Right? Are you getting my logic?

Factors that I can think of, in no particular order of importance except my own desire to write it:

- ONE. Customers who judge them real bad. For me, these groups of people, are the real hypocrite. They said WL aren't good, lies, cold heart, etc.
They keep saying bad things. But then, why they keep looking for WLs with good attitude? You want your money to get value. But later get hurt themselves. And blamed everything on the WL.
After that, they look for another WL with great attitude, lovely, GFE, BBBJ, DTBBBJ, DFK, CIMWS, etc. any abbreviation you can think of. maybe next time we would see a WL with the feel of your own secret wife. Maybe the abbrev. would be SWE.

- TWO. The REASON THAT CAUSED THEM to work this job.
This must be a real big reason to make them work this job. True?
And a big problem it is. So, may I ask you, have you ever felt really depressed that you feel you want to die?
That's nothing. This is double of it. Why? Because the problem make them feel better to die, but they can't, they would love to, but because there are other human beings whom they loved, and need them. They think about that, if they have gone to hell, then what woulbd happen to them they love?

- THREE. Bad customers. This is a serious problem.
I don't want to start racism fight here.
So I try my best. And please if you respond to this, DO NOT SAY ANY RACIST WORDS.
Girls have their reason to ban specific customer(s), they don't do it out of random decision made in split second.
I know a lady, that ban specific customers, but still see a couple of regulars of the same group that is banned. Why? Those two are handsome? Hardly. Those two asset are of her preference? Hardly.
Because, those two, she knows that most probably, they won't hurt her.
Why she knows that? Because before, she banned no one. After few months of working, she made that big decision. That is big. Because the group banned was a significant part of her income. That's of course not because some random reason such as FengShui, or Astrology. That's because she has to choose, whether she can reluctantly accept because of their scare, but might be haunted with her traumatic experience.
Apparently, she is the taste of the group being banned.
And don't ask me who she is. She is a memory from the past. A memory ages ago. I forgot her, because she wasn't quite my type.
And I've got my experience of hunting for hidden gem.

Some shop, well, most shops, allow girl to choose. That's the rule. However, have you ever think about shop condition?
What if the shop is filled with significant proportion of customers that is being banned?
What happens, when she reluctantly accept customers that she actually doesn't accept, if everything is doing okay, that's fine. If something bad happen, then the effect is amplified.

So in regards to point number three, and combine it with point number two, do you think, WLs are a product who doesn't have heart? What if you were in her position? How can you run this hard life?
Combined with limited english, limited knowledge of the area, limited knowledge of shops. And also, because of poor financial condition, she also got starts to work very early.

If you later won't turn to drugs as your escape.
We would like to give you a standing ovation.



That's some of the reason. There are heaps more that you can think of.

So do you think, people that is doing all of those sacrifices for their loved one, cared one, is only filled with bad thing?
How about we see ourselves, would we do the same thing if you/me/we were in their position.
Or would we choose to die?

Me, I'm sorry. I'd say, I prefer to die. I never imagined living with pressure like that.
I'd just try to avoid problem like that.



So bro Galactus, how about you start to list the good stuffs?
:smile:

Bro jj999, you are a wise man

project_manager006
04-12-2012, 07:45 PM
Hey bro altgourami, sorry to hear about your pain. It's gonna suck a while, I ain't gonna lie about that, but over time, maybe very long time, things will slowly get better.

I heard a good rule of my friend once - never make the same mistake twice.

DeepImpact
04-12-2012, 07:52 PM
So far you are all wrong and missing one of the most important points.

The relationship between a WL and customer presents opportunities that other jobs don't. I am only talking about theft here but the original poster may have been referring to other trust issues like the girl cheated on him etc.

If you go to McDonalds and buy a hamburger you hand over your money. The opportunity for the cashier to steal from you is limited. She could short change you or not give you the chips to go with the order but she is not going to get the chance to go throught your wallet.

If you get an electrian to come to your house you might watch over him like a hawk as he works so he has limited opportunity to steal anything, but left alone for a moment he might take the chance to grab something if he is that way inclined.

If you bring a WL to your home there is a big chance you will be seperated for some time when you shower or go to the toilet etc so that presents a good opportunity for her to steal from you.

The main point is that it's not about the occupation of the person, it's more about the opportunities that the occupation brings to be dishonest. The girl at McDonalds behind the register may be just as likely to steal from you as the WL if she gets the opportunity but chances are there will never be a time she is left alone with your wallet or possessions to try.

AHLUNGOR
04-12-2012, 08:10 PM
Bro jj999, you are a wise man

I second that

He is also full of good intentions!!

DeepImpact
04-12-2012, 08:17 PM
it seems brother Galactus has somehow taken over the debate.

Yeah, don't you just hate it when that happens? haha

Jj999
04-12-2012, 10:39 PM
Would you agree that WLs are more likely to be addicted to drugs than non-WLs? I assume most people would..

(heres some australian research evidence which demonstrates that WLs are far more likely to be injecting drug users than non-WLs, see: http://www.pla.qld.gov.au/Resources/PLA/reportsPublications/documents/Select%20prostitution%20statistics%20-%2019.12.07.pdf)

And would you also agree that drug addicts are, generally speaking, less trustworthy than non-drug addicts? I assume most people would agree on this point as well...

Well, if you agree with the previous two points you must also therefore agree that WLs are in general terms as an occupational group less trustworthy than non-WLs.

All I am making is a generalised statement based on common sense. This is not a blanket stereotype which should be applied indiscriminately to all WLs. However, I fear this distintion is lost on many.

I agree with a previous poster who suggested that sometimes this board serves a fanboy club for WLs. I think there is sometimes a perverse ideolotry of these ladies.. they are venerated and placed on pedestals.. In the eyes of some they are pure as the driven snow, immaculate and capable of no wrong.

I do not subscribe to this view - I respect and admire many WLs, but I also realise that some are lost souls- broken, humbled and immoral. Not inherently wicked, but rather victims of society...

Wow wow, stop at the paragraph before last paragraph buddy.
Before closing it with a ending of your version.
We were talking about WLs drug addiction. Not specific 'injecting drug'.
You know what, any drugs, which common routes of administration is injection, is some serious stuff. Drug addicts whose drugs of choice is not commonly administered by route of injection, MOST of them are frightened only with the thought of trying it. Well, you may believe me, you may not. i can't get a reference from a book. But you can of course ask people yourself.
And also, there, they weren't talking about the reason WLs start using drugs whether it is injection or another route of administration.
They do, however state whether the reason they are involved in prostitution is drug related or not.

I do need everyone's agreement though. I personally means by WLs is they who work in a shop/agencies/private or at least, we were always talking about them who works in a shop/agencies/private. I never thought of street workers. And they aren't working legally.
Even the after reports section, I've never seen one. I don't know if there is any, could you please show me? I never thought we would be including street worker. Also the thread poster, bro altgorami, I'm sure he didn't mean a street worker by those title "never trusts a working girl".
And one more, I couldn't think anyone who protect WLs with their statement also means those street workers.
Why? This isn't a prejudice or leaving them out. I'd say, guys in this forum, don't have too much or even no experience with street workers. Or any of you who protect WLs from bad prejudices, also includes street workers in those WLs?
I don't think so.
So if you are including them, we are debating whether an orange from Malaysia is better than an Apple from Australia.
IF you are including them, It's better that you have experience with them. Also, I hope you remember to include them before reading the study paper.:shout:


Also we don't treat them as a holy person. I don't know who treat them like that.
At least, for me, I treat them equally as a human. Normal human. I have no prejudice against them.:cool2:

And this statistics he provided was from Queensland.
They said 75% prostitution is outcalls. Here, in Sydney, I wouldn't say so. Brothels are everywhere, I guess the numbers of shops wouldn't be less than the total of 7eleven. LoL.
That's an exaggeration of course. But you get my point.
Here, I start to quote some of the sentences from the study.

Remember, this is from Queensland numbers and regulations.


It is illegal for outcalls (escort services) to be made from licensed brothels, but outcalls are legal when provided by legitimate sole operators (single sex workers). In 2004, the CMC estimated that outcalls constituted some 75% of all prostitution in Queensland. Many escort services operate illegally (that is, by a person who is not a legitimate sole operator).
Research indicates that prostitutes are more likely than the general community to be injecting drug users. In 2004, the Crime and Misconduct Commission (CMC) analysed data which indicated that among people attending the Brisbane Sexual Health Clinic, 20% to 30% of those who identified as prostitutes were injecting drug users, compared to 8% to 13% of those who did not identify as prostitutes. However, in the Woodward research, those persons working in the illegal sex industry were more likely to inject drugs than those working legally. This is also borne out by the Selling Sex in Queensland research. 75.8% of street workers revealed that they had become involved in prostitution because they were using drugs and needed money to pay for them, in comparison to just 2% of brothel workers and 8.5% of sole operators.


And this is your own statement, I hope you won't go back on your own statement.


If you think about it statistically, Im willing to bet that WLs have a far higher rate of drug dependency than the general population. This is a major reason why many girls choose to get into the business. I think an addiction to drugs could potentially make some WLs more likely to resort to theft, if the opportunity arose. As you say though, if they work in a shop theres likely to be less opportunity.


LOL, bro, sorry. I believe you know yourself, how much a WL potentially makes every week? You think how much are those drugs?
Believe me, girls working in a average shop could afford their living cost and their drugs addiction very very easily. LoL
The least a girl make for 7 days I guess, would be $1400-$2100. That's very small for them it's almost funny you know. If a girl from an average shop sees this number, she'd laugh and said, well, I make that much in 4 days max.
Then the question I ask you, still the same, Why would they steal?. Remember, this is a generalization. But its the opposite of bro Galactus report.

I hope by this one This is a major reason why many girls choose to get into the business you'd mean this is the most common reason why many girls choose to get into the business.
If not, please explain how do you mean it.
So, your data is actually not supporting you bro. You see, just 2% brothel workers, and 8.5% sole operators, starts to work because of their addiction.
And, in Sydney, we have heaps of brothels and sole operators.

So are you saying most girls works because of their drug addiction?
Bro, lol. I can't hold my laugh. Okay, in Sydney, there are asian brothels everywhere, seems like there is no end to them.
Do you know that girls come here on student visa. Do you think, honestly, because of their addiction they are prepared to cross the border and go to a new continents?
Maybe you don't know what I meant. But if you have experience, you know why. :grimace:
However, the fact that you said that most of them start working because of drug addiction, screams that you actually don't know about this. If you actually know though, then it actually screams something worse. Which I don't want to say now. :prettiness: LOL.

And comment regarding fanboy club. Well, you can choose what to read, and what's not to read. That's all your choices.
But, I do not condone the action of criticising others HONEST REAL REPORT, just because the report differ than theirs.
So who did that? I didn't.
And If I remember it correctly, when I read that thread, I think it's only one guys.

Bro, you can call anyone a hypocrite. But my action never differ from my word. What I have said is what I will do.
For us, honestly, you are the real hypocrite.


- If you think they are the same as the one in your view, WLs would be pretty disgusting for you.
So, did you punt regularly?
- If you think this forum is sometimes used as a fanboy club, the report ain't that good.
So, what did you do that time in after report section?
Did you ever read someone's report to guide your punt?


For me, they are our equal. Human. Neither they nor you/we/me would like someone to have any prejudice against us.
:cool2::cool2::cool2::cool2:

wilisno
05-12-2012, 12:14 AM
Haha, what a detective bro Jj999 ! I couldn't breathe until I finished reading the whole post ! :miao:

wilisno
05-12-2012, 12:30 AM
At least bro JJ999 is a lot more consistent with his belief !

Sextus
05-12-2012, 12:48 AM
My brain hurts after reading all this intelligent discourse. Maybe I'm just not used to it....

From what I read above, (and I might not have picked it up properly) it is only 2% of shop workers taking drugs according to the statistics. That is a tiny minority. It might even include those who like to inhale sometimes, like I do (though unlike Bill Clinton.)

I live my (perhaps more vulnerable) life in a state of trust. Join me. Dive in, the water is fine.

IExperiment
05-12-2012, 12:50 AM
They don't call them "cunts" for nothing !!!

ANY girl can scam you or break your heart. Recently, a mate of mine was *told* on a Saturday morning by his *wife* of 12 years, "I never loved you. I don't know why I married you. You're boring. I'm leaving. You can keep the kids with you."

Her timing was impeccable ... it was on Saturday, the day before Father's Day. He has four kids, all under 10. It was all he could do to call his mum and me. When I arrived he was a bawling mess in the living room with his kids. The bitch had left, apparently to shack up with another man that she had met at a Light Opera Company she had joined.

Now, my friend is a great guy. He works full time, picks kids up from swimming, tennis, or cubs on the way home from work, does all the laundry and the yard at home. He finds time for Nippers on Sunday morning with his son, to build a dolls house for one daughter and a cubby house for another. The list goes on. Of course he's fuckin' boring ... that's what happens when you have kids!!!

He married his childhood sweetheart and spoiled her constantly. I do baby sitting duty 2-3 times every year and his parents also do a few shifts while he took his wife to dinner. On wedding anniversaries he'd make a night of it, booking a hotel in town or having a short break to Melbourne or the Blue Mountains. Fuck, I'd almost marry the guy myself!

... and the bitch said she never even loved him ...

Dude, it can happen to any of us. Just learn to pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and find another girl. The world is fuckin' full of nice girls.

Poor basterd its ussually the other way around :) now he cant even get child support if she does not work...lol.. talking about the other way around...

wilisno
05-12-2012, 12:50 AM
I live my (perhaps more vulnerable) life in a state of trust. Join me. Dive in, the water is fine.

Ok, I'll join you on this one !

IExperiment
05-12-2012, 01:01 AM
Fascinating range of views. I just want to let you all know it's not as bad as all that and I'll survive. The WL in question is now shacked up with a 24 yo in Parramatta overlooking Westfields car park so I personally think she's worse off but then again if he's keeping her nice and juicy who knows... maybe she's better off? I just feel she's lost out to BMWs, harbour views and overseas holidays in return for Western suburbs of Sydney... silly girl.

You did your research wow thats way to close as you already know the other guy. He is 24 so they will live learn together about living in good or bad, in another word you lost out to a 24 who have less than you??? its ok get over it and moved on you will learn.

Jj999
05-12-2012, 02:11 AM
Um ok, Im pretty much done with this thread but you've asked me a question and made several allegations against me so I'll respond.

You asked me if I think that most prostitutes work in the industry to support their drug habit? No, I didn't say that.

In my previous post I suggested that prostitutes are more likely to use drugs. The study I referenced supports that viewpoint. I then suggested that people using drugs tend to be less trustworthy.

I am not prejudiced against WLs. I believe all humans are fundamentally equal. However, I do make assumptions about certain catergories of people, and then either alter or confirm those initial impressions when i encounter particular individuals (its called 'stereotyping' or 'statistical sampling' - all animals do it, including yourself)

Example - I have a base assumption that politicians are self-serving and dishonest (people with these characteristics are attracted to the job, and are most likely to succeed). However, I've met many (and worked for several) who are deeply moral and compassionate people, and I have adjusted my opinion of them accordingly.

On the other hand I would say fire fighters are courageous and self-sacrificing, and although if I met a fire fighter I would initially see him from this perspective, i would quickly change my impression if his behaviour dictated otherwise.

Yeah. Me too. :miao:
I'm done. I wrote heaps of words.
LoL. I guess, I am missing my university essays. :cool2:

Oh, I'd like to give you a tips.
Do you know?
You can edit your older post so it could somewhat conforms to your post in any point of time.

You'll surely find this tips helpful in the future.

Jj999
05-12-2012, 02:20 AM
Wait, wait, wait - the 2% figure refers to the proportion of brothel workers who entered the industry for the purpose of feeding a drug habit.

Overall, according to that research - 20-30% of ALL prostitutes surveyed (including street walkers) are IV drug users.

According to this paper betweeen 7-17% of brothel workers and escorts are IV drug users (see page 13) http://www.med.unsw.edu.au/nchecrweb.nsf/resources/SHPReport/$file/NSWSexIndustryReportV4.pdf

I cant be bothered checking, but im sure this is far higher than for the general population

Then, who said I disagree with that?
Read it again.

LOL.
You don't need to be sure and search your own brain knowledge for this fact.
This was stated in the article. Right after the statement showing that percentages.
Even my 8 years old nieces knows that 20 to 30 percent is way higher than 8 to 13 percent.
Well they didn't say it is way higher...
But 8-13% compared to 20-30%....

My advise, choose a more difficult one bro, like you get it somewhere else. That's going to sound way more sophisticated and educated. :smile: :cool2:

Jj999
05-12-2012, 02:24 AM
Ah, you might find my previous tips helpful now.

wilisno
05-12-2012, 08:14 AM
Wait, wait, wait - the 2% figure refers to the proportion of brothel workers who entered the industry for the purpose of feeding a drug habit.

Overall, according to that research - 20-30% of ALL prostitutes surveyed (including street walkers) are IV drug users.

According to this paper betweeen 7-17% of brothel workers and escorts are IV drug users (see page 13) http://www.med.unsw.edu.au/nchecrweb.nsf/resources/SHPReport/$file/NSWSexIndustryReportV4.pdf

I cant be bothered checking, but im sure this is far higher than for the general population
Whatever the survey says, it doesn't apply to the debate here.

To start with, a survey is only questions asked to a small number of participants, in this case, most probably professionals. Most importantly, I'm sure they didn't get the survey from our girls, the Asian girls ! So it doesn't apply to this forum !

AHLUNGOR
05-12-2012, 08:43 AM
Whatever the survey says, it doesn't apply to the debate here.

To start with, a survey is only questions asked to a small number of participants, in this case, most probably professionals. Most importantly, I'm sure they didn't get the survey from our girls, the Asian girls ! So it doesn't apply to this forum !

Haha, I like that brother Wil,

"Our Asian girls" probably won't understand the survey questions anyway.

And I think the great majority of them are spending their hard earn money on school fees, living expenses, sending money home, paying off debts, shopping or on Sichuan hot pots.......lol

Cheers

kickass
05-12-2012, 10:41 AM
Poor basterd its ussually the other way around :) now he cant even get child support if she does not work...lol.. talking about the other way around...

The bitch does work ... earns about $45k. You know what, just recently he was awarded a support payment ... fuckin' less than $20 per week !!! LESS !!! I don't want to say the exact amount, but it is much less. This world is fucked up. It reminds me of an email I received recently:

Purchase versus Lease

Many people cannot decide which is the better option: purchasing or leasing. We'd like to help you decide by illustrating two stories of foolish men and cunning women.

Purchase Option
Paul McCartney decided he would rather purchase. So, in 2002, he married Heather Mills. Alas, things didn't work. They separated in 2006 and divorced in 2008. So, after 4 years of marriage, he paid her $49 million.

Assuming he had sex with her every night during their 5 year relationship, it ended up with him purchasing her @ $26,849 per time.

This is Heather... (click on images for larger view)

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Lease Option
On the other hand, former New York Governor Eliot Spitzer's favorite hooker, Kristen, charged $4,000 per night.

This is Kristen... (click on images for larger view)

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So, had Sir Paul McCartney "employed" Kristen for 5 years @ $4,000 per night, he would have paid only $7.3 million in total for sex every night. This represents a $41.7 million in savings.

What a shrewd man Eliot is, compared to the aging Beatle.

Further valuable benefits of this Leasing option are;
* a (real) 22 year old vs Heather who was 34 at the time of marriage
* no need for coaxing / pleading / begging
* never a headache
* happily agrees to all technical requests
* no complaining
* no “Honey - please do this” lists
* has two legs
Best of all, she leaves and returns when asked.

All at 1/7th the cost and no legal fees.


What does Heather think about this Purchase v Lease conundrum?...
(click on images for larger view)

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Would you rather be with Heather, above?... Or, Kristen, below?
(click on images for larger view)

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Now you know, Leasing just makes more sense.


THE OLD ADAGE STILL HOLDS TRUE.....IF IT FLYS, FLOATS, OR FUCKS... RENT IT!

Sextus
05-12-2012, 11:07 AM
KickAss, you are ascended to the status of one of the forum's best posters!

I love those pics of Heather Mills the harridan. (Well, love may not be quite the right word.) Shivers! She is soft cock territory, big time.

Of course, the immortally brilliant Paul McCartney eventually made it all back in music royalties while he was asleep, or having a shit, or picking his nose. But the economic argument you put is still sound. Not to mention the price of putting up with a one-legged Harridan like Mills.

I know McCartney is a gentle soul - I have read many of his writings and quotes. And harridans are a cross to bear for the likes of gentle souls like he and I. They take advantage of our gentleness, and they do it without any conscience.

numberonebigsize
05-12-2012, 11:16 AM
I do leave my wallet in a brothel room while I'm in the shower room.
I know they make lots of cash every week.
I might have few thousands in my wallet, but if someone is going to steal, of course it isn't going to be all. That's a very stupid one. I know it right away.
If they are going to steal, then it's maximum 4-6 $50 notes.
So, do you think ladies making thousands/week, would even be bothered to trade the risk of being caught (and get a bad reputation) for $300?
You know that is a criminal offence.
Lol.

And obviously, I trust them more (about few thousands $ in the wallet), than guys at bar/pub.
Lol.

I don't have comments for your joan of arc and mother theresa.
That's up to you what to write, but I guess what you write in your post, could be considered as flaming.
FLAMING?????? Are you meaning ''flaming'' as an internet term,or ''flaming'' in regard to the unfortunate end for Joan of Arc. If it was the latter you are a very clever little possum

altgourami
05-12-2012, 02:38 PM
Done and dusted, Talk amongst yourselves, boys, but this issue has been resolved. Unfortunately. It was fun.

cuimd2
05-12-2012, 03:43 PM
Done and dusted, Talk amongst yourselves, boys, but this issue has been resolved. Unfortunately. It was fun.

do you mind telling the whole story? im a bit curious. =)

bhd
05-12-2012, 05:04 PM
cuimd2, what else do you need to know?

Basically altgourami must have been dating a hot chick who was a WL or ML aged around 24, she dumped him for another young guy who is clearly poorer than him.
He misses her, but now he knows he probably dodged a bullet there, and doesnt want to talk too much about it,
since its his private life.

Altgourami, we pay whores to go away from us, not pay to fuck them... so hope you feel better soon, and dont let a bitch effect your feelings..cheers

Travelmate
05-12-2012, 05:08 PM
HAHA... I do not have that money to worry about shit

AHLUNGOR
05-12-2012, 06:09 PM
There was a good post that was deleted an hour or so .. very insightful ... I recall its general thrust but wish id saved it ... If the author is reading - I agree with a lot of what you say, kudos brother.

The one from brother Donn ??

I am OK with that, but he may have offended a few people !!

AHLUNGOR
05-12-2012, 06:11 PM
HAHA... I do not have that money to worry about shit

All your winning money is sitting very safely in your betting account, in fact, I doubt you ever even see your money, it's free flowing between your bank account and your betting account.........haha

Cheers

Jj999
05-12-2012, 06:42 PM
Dude, I read your posts twice and still don't understand what point you're trying to make.

Oh that post?
My point is..

I guess it's only you who don't understand.lol.

Heaps of smartass everywhere huh..
The world is changing.

Jj999
05-12-2012, 08:22 PM
I challenge anyone to decipher your nonsense ... You just string together a bunch of garbled incoherent sentences lol, as far as I can tell there's no point to anything you say, ever.

Oh, yeah yeah.
That's right.

Okay. You are right.
Whoa, you're really smart.
Go for it brother.


Hey guys, i lose to Galactus!


So, is this enough to stop everything?
I don't want too much verbal warfare.

It's up to the reader to judge bro.
Call me hypocrite if you/anyone want. :smile:
But those girls. Know who am I. :cool2:

And they are heaps. And they read the forum. And they know my username.

Just don't let them know you are Galactus. Just imagine someone accusing them to start work because drugs addiction book them for a session.
Ain't pretty.

AHLUNGOR
05-12-2012, 10:18 PM
Hi guys,

I think it's time to cool off before some one may say some regretable stuff which may resulted in someone getting banned from the forum and that ain't cool.

Let's not forget the brother who started this thread has come to his own terms and since long gone and silenced.

Why bother any more.

Let's spend some of you precious energy on where and who and when is your next punt, whether you TRUST that WL or not.

Have a nice evening,

Cheers

ps. Need any massage tips ??

Littlewonder
06-12-2012, 08:13 AM
If you have low opinions of WLs, then why do you even bother hanging around them?

I expect this kind of prejudice from hypocritical moral crusaders, not punters.

Its nothing to do with having a low opinion of a working lady, when you go out you lock your house does that mean you have a low opinion of your neighbours? Dont think so it just pays to be safe and sensible and not tempt fate.

Its exactly the same with a wl.

Its the same if you have tradesmen or cleaners etc in your house you don't leave valuable lying around, if they happen to get miss placed you end up blaming them and then find that you put it in a different spot or something. Its just common sense dont put yourself or anyone else in what could become an uncomfortable position its so unnecessary.

90% or maybe more people are honest its the small% that arn't thats the problem and wl are no different than the rest of the comunity in this regard. I have heard of working ladies steeling from their work mates same as I have had tradesmen steel from their work mates so best for everyone to not tempt fate.

altgourami
06-12-2012, 09:10 AM
An excellent summary.


cuimd2, what else do you need to know?

Basically altgourami must have been dating a hot chick who was a WL or ML aged around 24, she dumped him for another young guy who is clearly poorer than him.
He misses her, but now he knows he probably dodged a bullet there, and doesnt want to talk too much about it,
since its his private life.

Altgourami, we pay whores to go away from us, not pay to fuck them... so hope you feel better soon, and dont let a bitch effect your feelings..cheers

Jj999
06-12-2012, 09:57 AM
He was saying that, because bro Galactus posted something about WLs in general. Some people (including bro moonlight) thought that it was somewhat-significantly-more-than-normal negative, which I described as prejudice. However, bro galactus rebutted that description and said that he has no prejudice against anyone. He'd later sophisticatedly describe those somewhat-significantly-more-than-normal negative expressions as an ... "assumptions".

Given the fact bro Galactus potentially likes to punt (well he join this forum, so he likes to punt doesn't he?), to some people, including bro Moonlight, it sounds quite contradictory to the point of hypocrisy.

Hope that explains.

Sorry, just got nothing to do at home.:smile:

Ah, don't forget this one, the most important part:
I 'admitted' that I lose to bro Galactus.
:smile:

Eff2fifty
06-12-2012, 09:58 AM
I read this post with mixed feelings, this is my story down to a tee!!! I have come to the conclusion that females are hard wired totally different to males, which is why we will never understand their feelings or their behavior. Hence, non of them should be trusted. Brother KickAss, wishing your buddy good luck. Have you introduced him to this forum???
They don't call them "cunts" for nothing !!!

ANY girl can scam you or break your heart. Recently, a mate of mine was *told* on a Saturday morning by his *wife* of 12 years, "I never loved you. I don't know why I married you. You're boring. I'm leaving. You can keep the kids with you."

Her timing was impeccable ... it was on Saturday, the day before Father's Day. He has four kids, all under 10. It was all he could do to call his mum and me. When I arrived he was a bawling mess in the living room with his kids. The bitch had left, apparently to shack up with another man that she had met at a Light Opera Company she had joined.

Now, my friend is a great guy. He works full time, picks kids up from swimming, tennis, or cubs on the way home from work, does all the laundry and the yard at home. He finds time for Nippers on Sunday morning with his son, to build a dolls house for one daughter and a cubby house for another. The list goes on. Of course he's fuckin' boring ... that's what happens when you have kids!!!

He married his childhood sweetheart and spoiled her constantly. I do baby sitting duty 2-3 times every year and his parents also do a few shifts while he took his wife to dinner. On wedding anniversaries he'd make a night of it, booking a hotel in town or having a short break to Melbourne or the Blue Mountains. Fuck, I'd almost marry the guy myself!

... and the bitch said she never even loved him ...

Dude, it can happen to any of us. Just learn to pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and find another girl. The world is fuckin' full of nice girls.

handbanana
06-12-2012, 11:11 AM
Hahah amusing thread. Its funny to see the fan boys all up in arms over a few words said on internet.

Jj999
06-12-2012, 12:01 PM
Yeah, I'm a loser who always change my words.

I believe everyone is smart enough to know everything and read and understand.
You know it. :smile:

Jj999
06-12-2012, 10:47 PM
Hypocrite - why??

From your earlier post JJ999 I can see the only reason you take the positions that you do, is to ingratiate yourself with the prostutes you visit. LOL. You sad little man, that is utterly pathetic

Oh of course, it was meant to protect my friends.
Except that without these words, they've liked me and take me as their friends. Why? Dunno why. Guess why?
And I've virtually withdrawn from Sydney punting world. So these posts would have little/no positive effect for me.

Revvedup
07-12-2012, 01:18 AM
If she's smokin hot, young, a bubble of energy and she treats your 'member' like a billion dollar bill - just carry on with the punt and don't get too wrapped up emotionally.
What a great read this was boys, i need some damn sleep !

Mr Crash and Burn
07-12-2012, 10:41 AM
Wow!!

Nearly 3 pages on this thread and we ALL knew nothing of Bro Altgourami's initial angst until #95.

Yet forum members were able to create the remainder of the posts from speculation and personal stories. Are we all frustrated authors??

AHLUNGOR
07-12-2012, 10:59 AM
Wow!!

Nearly 3 pages on this thread and we ALL knew nothing of Bro Altgourami's initial angst until #95.

Yet forum members were able to create the remainder of the posts from speculation and personal stories. Are we all frustrated authors??

You are not wrong there brother C&B, everyone is ready and willing to expose or explode, just waiting for the right topic to appear or the wrong button to be pushed.......lol

I am just a kid at heart......haha

Cheers

Sextus
07-12-2012, 11:36 AM
Basically Altgourami's post was like an exam question:

"Never trust a working girl."

Discuss.

And so we did. He may not have planned it that way, but that was the inevitable result.

kickass
07-12-2012, 11:45 AM
Sextus,

Thanks for your compliments mate. It was a fun write. I've emailed it to my mates too.

Jj999
07-12-2012, 12:49 PM
You know what, our lengthy discussion has made me thinking twice about refering to english dictionaries for the definitions of "assumptions" and "prejudices".

This is one small step for a punter, and a major leap back for mankind.

Sextus
07-12-2012, 01:43 PM
You know what, our lengthy discussion has made me thinking twice about refering to english dictionaries for the definitions of "assumptions" and "prejudices".

This is one small step for a punter, and a major leap back for mankind.


In my case, my assumptions are only to see the good in people as my starting point. (Mind you, I don't work in a drug rehabilitation halfway house either, so I'm not dumb or dogmatic about it.)

So these qualities you mention can work for mankind too. It just depends on where you start from.

If you get burnt by being trusting every ten, twenty or thirty years - big deal. You're still way in front in terms of your own serenity.

I'm just not a suspicious type. So I'd never be a copper. They have to spend their entire life in a state of suspicion. Amongst other reasons, it is why their social circle is largely restricted to other coppers. Average citizens feel a little unconsciously guilty in their presence - even when they aren't. They feel they have to be careful with their words. The poor coppers pick up on this, so they have to hang out with each other in social situations to feel fully comfortable themselves. On a smaller scale, they represent what the two groupings in this debate on the trust and not trust divide represent.

Overall, this trust issue is a philosopical debate that will never be won or concluded. All we can do is put our own two cents in (as AhLungor is so fond of saying) and hope what we say means something to others too.

But as I said above, the thread brought up trust as the central issue. As that affects us all, there was always going to be a lot of passion in the debate. Sometimes that leads to things becoming too personal between people, but it isn't the first time that has happened, or the last time it will happen on this forum.

Although that is unfortunate, someone always chimes in with a "calm down" message.

AHLUNGOR
07-12-2012, 01:50 PM
Welcome to the Aus99 University:

Current lecture:

Social Psychology 101

Enjoy

Cheers

handbanana
07-12-2012, 01:55 PM
Some people get offended easily and arent mature enough to let bygones be bygones is all i learnt from this topic.

Sextus
07-12-2012, 02:52 PM
That is true Galactus, and as I already said above, I'm not dogmatic.

And I hope I have sense, both the common variety and even strive for a touch of the not so common variety too.

cheers mate.

Jj999
07-12-2012, 03:19 PM
Dogmatic ?
That's exactly what he's been doing, trying to impose his opinion about WLs on others, in fact, in all his previous life as Charlie123, Charlie456, Charlie789, his only interest in the forum is being dogmatic and creating arguments!

Jj999
07-12-2012, 04:15 PM
I hope you are going to come up with new definition of "dogmatic".. As you've been with "prejudice" and "assumption".
This is very thrilling!

Is it going to be a major leap (back) for the academic world?
Or a major revelation of a hypocrite by means of tangled by his own words?
Or an idiotic vandaliser trying to impose a dogma, in a way that it looks really intellectual with statistics only to be rubbished with the fact that he only taking bits by bits from a valid sounding documents?
Or just simply an ignorant person with nothing to do at home except trying to impose dogma?
Or revelation of an old loser who has been rubbished few times, and banned for good, but throwing away his manhood only to try his chance for revenge?
Or is it going to be combination of all?

Man, this is very thrilling! I nearly wet my pants!
Sorry for the slight hyperbole. But,

Galactus sir, as I've said, reading your post feels like reading a detective book, or mystery book, or sometimes simply a comical picture book with a donkey and an ogre running and jumping around.




Following definitions were copied from merriam-webster.

Main Entry: dog·mat·ic
Pronunciation: \dȯg-ˈma-tik, däg-\
Variant(s): also dog·mat·i·cal \-ti-kəl\
Function: adjective
Date: 1660
1 : characterized by or given to the expression of opinions very strongly or positively as if they were facts <a dogmatic critic>
2 : of or relating to dogma
synonyms see dictatorial
— dog·mat·i·cal·ly \-ti-k(ə-)lē\ adverb
— dog·mat·i·cal·ness \-ti-kəl-nəs\ noun


Main Entry: 1prej·u·dice
Pronunciation: \ˈpre-jə-dəs\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin praejudicium previous judgment, damage, from prae- + judicium judgment — more at judicial
Date: 13th century
1 : injury or damage resulting from some judgment or action of another in disregard of one's rights; especially : detriment to one's legal rights or claims
2 a (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge b : an instance of such judgment or opinion c : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics
synonyms see predilection


Main Entry: as·sump·tion
Pronunciation: \ə-ˈsəm(p)-shən\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Late Latin assumption-, assumptio taking up, from Latin assumere
Date: 13th century
1 a : the taking up of a person into heaven b capitalized : August 15 observed in commemoration of the Assumption of the Virgin Mary
2 : a taking to or upon oneself <the assumption of a new position>
3 : the act of laying claim to or taking possession of something <the assumption of power>
4 : arrogance, pretension
5 a : an assuming that something is true b : a fact or statement (as a proposition, axiom, postulate, or notion) taken for granted
6 : the taking over of another's debts

Jj999
07-12-2012, 05:21 PM
Welcome to the Aus99 University:

Current lecture:

Social Psychology 101

Enjoy

Cheers

It's more of language class actually.

How far particular word can bend and twist.

So far we have demonstrated that "assumption" and "prejudice" are both showing similar properties of able to be bended and twisted.
And Galactus bro has introduced new definitions for those words which practically rubbished high credibility english dictionaries.

He still need to show the new of definition those two though,
But he directed current attention, on the possibilities of bend & twist, and make a new definition of "dogmatic".

cisco
07-12-2012, 07:09 PM
I just read this thread again, my question is Guys , Where are we now ?

Sextus
07-12-2012, 07:32 PM
I just read this thread again, my question is Guys , Where are we now ?


Hey Cisco! I'm outa here!

Jj999
07-12-2012, 07:42 PM
READ ON.
I'll USE ACADEMICAL AND INTELLECTUAL (sounding) way to draw conclusion that SYDNEY ASIAN WL is THE MOST TRUSTWORTHY GROUP IN AUSTRALIA.


New data come out from the exact same document. Page 26.

"Sydney sex workers were significantly less likely to drink alcohol to excess than were sex workers in Melbourne
or Perth: 44% of sydney workers had never drunk more than four alcoholic drinks in a day, compared with 27% in Melbourne and 23% in Perth; p<0.001. This may reflect the higher proportion of asian sex workers in sydney brothels. The sshc data showed 6% of sex workers reported drinking >140 gms of alcohol per week (non-asian 10% vs asian 2%, p<0.001).
also of note, is that only 2% of sydney lash participants had injected a drug in the previous 12 months, significantly lower than in Melbourne (10%) and Perth (14%; p<0.001). Again this finding was supported by the SSHC data where 8% of the women reported ever having injected drugs, with <1% of the asian women doing so (Table 13)."

So from this fact, I will use the data about ALCOHOL.
Considering this forum is mainly asian brothels. I'd use the 2% sydney asian sex workers drinks more than 140gms/week.


140gms of alcohol is roughly 10 standard drinks equal to roughly 9 285ML glasses of full strength beer (4.8% alc).
So, only 2% of Asian workers drinks more than 10 glass of beer per week.


And I also get another data from this link:
http://salvos.org.au/need-help/the-facts/documents/Bingedrinking.pdf

"Alcohol is one of the most widely used drugs in Australia. At least one in ten Australians can be classified as binge drinkers, and 6%
of all adult Australians abuse alcohol
or are dependent on it. About one in every four people are ‘problem drinkers’, meaning they drink more than the recommended limits."

To describe what is a dogmatic, well I'm a book follower, not outside the box thinker. Please read the next interesting conclusion I'd draw from this data.

- Do you agree that problem drinker, in general terms, are less trustworthy than a non-problem drinker?

- Do you agree that binge drinker are worse than problem drinker?

- Do you agree that alcohol abuser and dependent are the worst of problem drinker and binge drinker?
I assum

Data from SSHC Only 2% of Asian sex workers drink more than 140gms.
Recommended limit for low risk drinker is 2 standard drinks a day.
Which is 14 glass a week.
98% of these asian girls, are not even going over the recommended limit of low risk.

Because you agree that problem drinker (25% of Australian) is less trustworthy than a non-problem drinker.
You'd also agree that binge drinker (10% of Australian) is even less trustworthy.
You'd also agree that alcohol abuser and dependent (6%) are the least trustworthy than those 3 above.


2% is way lower than 6%.
That 6% is the worst of the worst.
Therefore, I can DRAW TWO INTERESTING CONCLUSION

1. SYDNEY ASIAN WL, AS A GROUP IS MORE TRUSTWORTHY THAN AUSTRALIAN IN GENERAL.

2. SYDNEY ASIAN WL, AS A GROUP IS THE MOST TRUSTWORTHY IN AUSTRALIA

How is that?
Do you know that?

"All I am making is a generalised statement based on common sense. This is not a blanket stereotype which should be applied indiscriminately to all Australian. However, I fear this distintion is lost on many. "

This quote was from GALACTUS' post, with "WLs" removed and changed to "Australian".


You should put this in museum of arts or somewhere.
In a banner with big wordings
"DID YOU KNOW?"

Hey, your common sense is wrong. Numbers are numbers. There aren't anything wrong with numbers.

You should include this findings in all trivia quiz everywhere!

Wait, wait, wait.
How come it sounded very stupid? How come I had some kind of deja vu?
Is there any post similar to this one? LOL.


- This link define what is problem drinker http://www.mhfa.com.au/documents/guidelines/8252_MHFA_prob_drinking_may09.pdf

"refers to drinking alcohol in amounts that exceed the low-risk recommendations in national drinking guidelines. It is important that you are familiar with the national guidelines for low-risk alcohol consumption in your country and how these guidelines define a standard drink. (A standard drink contains approximately 10g of alcohol; however the exact amount varies between countries.)"


- This link define what is binge drinking
http://www0.health.nsw.gov.au/factsheets/drugAndAlcohol/alcohol.html

"Binge-drinking means drinking a lot over a few hours - or non-stop over days or weeks. This can be very dangerous as it makes the harms from alcohol worse. Also, because drinking a lot can stop you thinking clearly and acting sensibly, you may put yourself in danger from other things."




What a convenient way to draw a conclusion.

I can make many others if you want.
Do you want it? LoL.


Hmmmm.. I really feel this deja vu feeling.
Very very strong feeling. I'd say a post very similar to this, in the same thread.


Do you get any problem with the way of drawing conclusion?
Yeah?
So who was drawing conclusion this way?


SO, who was bending the facts, drawing idiotic conclusion based on nonsense?
Who was it that I copied?
Answer it correctly, and you'll get a hypocrite and his true intention.

wilisno
07-12-2012, 07:48 PM
Hahaha, Bro Jj999, I'll say you've got more time on your hand than Bro Ahlungor here ! :miao:

Never mind what they say, I just love the girls here ! :miao::miao::miao:

Jj999
07-12-2012, 07:58 PM
Yeah.
If i want to sound smarter.
I can expand that one.

Alcohol is also considered as drug.
So, 25% Australian is a problem drug user.
And only 2% of Asian WL is a problem drug users.

Are we in the same boat for the fact that problem drugs users are less trustworthy?
And so on...

Yeah, you get it. Just change the words, and make some bend and twists there.
And voila.
You get what you want.

Lol.

Sorry all for wasting your time.
I just want to rubbish this vandaliser called "Galactus". Who were actually the 3rd reincarnation of a vandaliser called Charlie123, looking for arguments and imposing his falsely drawn conclusion to members of the forum.

Jj999
07-12-2012, 08:01 PM
Hahaha, Bro Jj999, I'll say you've got more time on your hand than Bro Ahlungor here ! :miao:

Never mind what they say, I just love the girls here ! :miao::miao::miao:

Yeah bro. :miao:

When I say I want to stop verbal warfare. So call me a loser, I won't mind.
I was going to give him chances to stop and keep his reputation safe. :cool2:


So two chances were given.
And I get abused by words in return.

rooter
07-12-2012, 08:12 PM
What ever happened to go to a shop, fuck, go home?

Sextus
07-12-2012, 08:19 PM
What ever happened to go to a shop, fuck, go home?


Hee Hee Hee!

Yes, the KISS philosophy - real and figurative.


And unless we get more wit like that one Rooter, I am definitely outa here!

Jj999
07-12-2012, 08:27 PM
Sorry buddy.
I'm stopping all of these.

I was verbally (okay not verbal, it was typed words) abused many times, so I guess I'm in a position to defend myself.
While, I also want to keep him gone with his baseless prejudices.

DeepImpact
07-12-2012, 08:36 PM
READ ON.
I'll USE ACADEMICAL AND INTELLECTUAL (sounding) way to draw conclusion that SYDNEY ASIAN WL is THE MOST TRUSTWORTHY GROUP IN AUSTRALIA.


New data come out from the exact same document. Page 26.

"Sydney sex workers were significantly less likely to drink alcohol to excess than were sex workers in Melbourne
or Perth: 44% of sydney workers had never drunk more than four alcoholic drinks in a day, compared with 27% in Melbourne and 23% in Perth; p<0.001. This may reflect the higher proportion of asian sex workers in sydney brothels. The sshc data showed 6% of sex workers reported drinking >140 gms of alcohol per week (non-asian 10% vs asian 2%, p<0.001).
also of note, is that only 2% of sydney lash participants had injected a drug in the previous 12 months, significantly lower than in Melbourne (10%) and Perth (14%; p<0.001). Again this finding was supported by the SSHC data where 8% of the women reported ever having injected drugs, with <1% of the asian women doing so (Table 13)."

So from this fact, I will use the data about ALCOHOL.
Considering this forum is mainly asian brothels. I'd use the 2% sydney asian sex workers drinks more than 140gms/week.


140gms of alcohol is roughly 10 standard drinks equal to roughly 9 285ML glasses of full strength beer (4.8% alc).
So, only 2% of Asian workers drinks more than 10 glass of beer per week.


And I also get another data from this link:
http://salvos.org.au/need-help/the-facts/documents/Bingedrinking.pdf

"Alcohol is one of the most widely used drugs in Australia. At least one in ten Australians can be classified as binge drinkers, and 6%
of all adult Australians abuse alcohol
or are dependent on it. About one in every four people are ‘problem drinkers’, meaning they drink more than the recommended limits."

To describe what is a dogmatic, well I'm a book follower, not outside the box thinker. Please read the next interesting conclusion I'd draw from this data.

- Do you agree that problem drinker, in general terms, are less trustworthy than a non-problem drinker?

- Do you agree that binge drinker are worse than problem drinker?

- Do you agree that alcohol abuser and dependent are the worst of problem drinker and binge drinker?
I assum

Data from SSHC Only 2% of Asian sex workers drink more than 140gms.
Recommended limit for low risk drinker is 2 standard drinks a day.
Which is 14 glass a week.
98% of these asian girls, are not even going over the recommended limit of low risk.

Because you agree that problem drinker (25% of Australian) is less trustworthy than a non-problem drinker.
You'd also agree that binge drinker (10% of Australian) is even less trustworthy.
You'd also agree that alcohol abuser and dependent (6%) are the least trustworthy than those 3 above.


2% is way lower than 6%.
That 6% is the worst of the worst.
Therefore, I can DRAW TWO INTERESTING CONCLUSION

1. SYDNEY ASIAN WL, AS A GROUP IS MORE TRUSTWORTHY THAN AUSTRALIAN IN GENERAL.

2. SYDNEY ASIAN WL, AS A GROUP IS THE MOST TRUSTWORTHY IN AUSTRALIA

How is that?
Do you know that?

"All I am making is a generalised statement based on common sense. This is not a blanket stereotype which should be applied indiscriminately to all Australian. However, I fear this distintion is lost on many. "

This quote was from GALACTUS' post, with "WLs" removed and changed to "Australian".


You should put this in museum of arts or somewhere.
In a banner with big wordings
"DID YOU KNOW?"

Hey, your common sense is wrong. Numbers are numbers. There aren't anything wrong with numbers.

You should include this findings in all trivia quiz everywhere!

Wait, wait, wait.
How come it sounded very stupid? How come I had some kind of deja vu?
Is there any post similar to this one? LOL.


- This link define what is problem drinker http://www.mhfa.com.au/documents/guidelines/8252_MHFA_prob_drinking_may09.pdf

"refers to drinking alcohol in amounts that exceed the low-risk recommendations in national drinking guidelines. It is important that you are familiar with the national guidelines for low-risk alcohol consumption in your country and how these guidelines define a standard drink. (A standard drink contains approximately 10g of alcohol; however the exact amount varies between countries.)"


- This link define what is binge drinking
http://www0.health.nsw.gov.au/factsheets/drugAndAlcohol/alcohol.html

"Binge-drinking means drinking a lot over a few hours - or non-stop over days or weeks. This can be very dangerous as it makes the harms from alcohol worse. Also, because drinking a lot can stop you thinking clearly and acting sensibly, you may put yourself in danger from other things."




What a convenient way to draw a conclusion.

I can make many others if you want.
Do you want it? LoL.


Hmmmm.. I really feel this deja vu feeling.
Very very strong feeling. I'd say a post very similar to this, in the same thread.


Do you get any problem with the way of drawing conclusion?
Yeah?
So who was drawing conclusion this way?


SO, who was bending the facts, drawing idiotic conclusion based on nonsense?
Who was it that I copied?
Answer it correctly, and you'll get a hypocrite and his true intention.

Wow that's a long post. I am trying to find a drunk working lady in Sydney who might want to remove some money from my wallet. Any suggestions as it seems like they she is going to be very hard to find?

Jj999
07-12-2012, 08:40 PM
Wow that's a long post. I am trying to find a drunk working lady in Sydney who might want to remove some money from my wallet. Any suggestions as it seems like they she is going to be very hard to find?

Yes, it is a long one indeed.
But this was after I am verbally abused many times.

If you are into that kind of girl, you should PM bro Galactus, he should know one or two of 'em.

DeepImpact
07-12-2012, 09:05 PM
Yes, it is a long one indeed.
But this was after I am verbally abused many times.

If you are into that kind of girl, you should PM bro Galactus, he should know one or two of 'em.

Thanks for the tip. I never noticed any abuse but to be honest I haven't read all of the posts as there are so many. Just don't confuse debate with abuse - take it easy Bro.

Mr Crash and Burn
07-12-2012, 09:20 PM
Wow that's a long post. I am trying to find a drunk working lady in Sydney who might want to remove some money from my wallet. Any suggestions as it seems like they she is going to be very hard to find?


Gee they are the nice types you like to hang around!!! Is this what you bring to this forum, or are you conjuring up some kind of racket to which you will profit from!!

How about some after reports, similar to the statements you fill out at the police station when reporting your theft.

DeepImpact
07-12-2012, 09:26 PM
Gee they are the nice types you like to hang around!!! Is this what you bring to this forum, or are you conjuring up some kind of racket to which you will profit from!!

How about some after reports, similar to the statements you fill out at the police station when reporting your theft.

Bro it's all part of the experience and I want to find a girl like this so I also have an interesting story to tell, a bit like going to New York and getting robbed or to India and having a stomach ache. I guess you are right, the after report could also be the police report as well but are they really going to want to hear about the sex? Come to think of it, describing her body in lots of detail might aid them in their investigation.

Jj999
07-12-2012, 10:44 PM
Thanks for the tip. I never noticed any abuse but to be honest I haven't read all of the posts as there are so many. Just don't confuse debate with abuse - take it easy Bro.

Yeah.
You should read it one by one if you are interested. Which I guess you are not.
He was just provoking me here. Or whatever you are defining that.
I said to him twice, didn't I? I lose. And stop it.
But he kept on doing that, so...


It wasn't verbal abuse in this thread. Or whatever you are defining verbal abuse.
It was in other thread.
Here was some debate only and provocation.

Was that cool, and accurate enough for you guys?

DeepImpact
08-12-2012, 07:37 AM
Yeah.
You should read it one by one if you are interested. Which I guess you are not.
He was just provoking me here. Or whatever you are defining that.
I said to him twice, didn't I? I lose. And stop it.
But he kept on doing that, so...


It wasn't verbal abuse in this thread. Or whatever you are defining verbal abuse.
It was in other thread.
Here was some debate only and provocation.

Was that cool, and accurate enough for you guys?

Yeah that's good enough for me. Cheers

numberonebigsize
08-12-2012, 10:55 AM
Hey Jj999 dont worry about the abuse and provocation, get down to the local boozer and sink a dozen schooners of Reschs,get pissed,get shitfaced,the world will look much better!!!!!(until tomorrow morning.

IExperiment
08-12-2012, 11:15 PM
Everybody is watching you two so it is time to just let it go and quit this thread :) ok - no point there is always two side to every story so you guys let it go.

IExperiment
08-12-2012, 11:16 PM
Actually it time for me to go out :) have fun guys :)

babelx
28-12-2012, 01:11 AM
Slightly off topic, but the reason I wouldn't leave the wallet inside the room is that you don't want them to know your identity, address etc.

Altgourami, hope you heal, although this one might take some time. from the looks of it.