Sudden Influx of Brand Girls?

[ics]

Has anyone noticed there is a sudden influx of "Brand Grils" on the outcall market? Do they really live up to the brand status or the agencies are simply trying to milk more money? Let's not mention MOC, cuz not rating a girl as branded is not their style, just look at the past few new girls, you'd see their trends. The new new girls from xclubsyd are "miss x", even Bluemoon. Look at the last few new girls they have, except Nana and the new malaysian, all are branded. Just wondering do we really have so many high quality girls on the market or it's the christmas push from agencies to exploit our holiday budget and our tendency to spend more in holiday season...

[rooter]

At least 2 factors at play here.
One is simply just MARKETING. Once one agency came up with this concept of brand girls and it was successful then all the rest followed to cash in. Its a competive market and you have to keep up with your competitors.
Another factor is that the high Australian dollar means Australia is now an even more lucrative market for WLs from China, Japan, Korea etc. A six month stint in Australia can earn a clever WL enough money to pay her uni fees, fund a world trip, or put a deposit on an apartment back home. So we are getting higher quality girls coming out here now.

[AHLUNGOR]

I always believe the supply and demand principle will eventually llevel out the playing fields. You can call your girls whatever you want, but if they don't deliver, customers are going to walk or not returning.

I guess the outcall escorts are at the top end of the market and those brothers who have the means to visit are not silly, they want value for money too!!

So good luck to all the punters and puntees

Cheers

[wilisno]

I always believe the supply and demand principle will eventually llevel out the playing fields. You can call your girls whatever you want, but if they don't deliver, customers are going to walk or not returning.

I guess the outcall escorts are at the top end of the market and those brothers who have the means to visit are not silly, they want value for money too!!

So good luck to all the punters and puntees

Cheers
Exactly ! Do some research, read some comments and reports if you don't want to take the bullet, that's what this forum is for !

As for BlueMoon, apparently both of their latest brand girls, Sammi and Aya are well worth the money !

[AHLUNGOR]

Exactly ! Do some research, read some comments and reports if you don't want to take the bullet, that's what this forum is for !

As for BlueMoon, apparently both of their latest brand girls, Sammi and Aya are well worth the money !

Haha, I thought sister Sammi is at yet another level all on her own, she is a Senior Member already, she is one of Us!!

Cheers

[AHLUNGOR]

Has anyone noticed there is a sudden influx of "Brand Grils" on the outcall market? Do they really live up to the brand status or the agencies are simply trying to milk more money? Let's not mention MOC, cuz not rating a girl as branded is not their style, just look at the past few new girls, you'd see their trends. The new new girls from xclubsyd are "miss x", even Bluemoon. Look at the last few new girls they have, except Nana and the new malaysian, all are branded. Just wondering do we really have so many high quality girls on the market or it's the christmas push from agencies to exploit our holiday budget and our tendency to spend more in holiday season...

I also like to add that I think right now in the Sydney Asian FS market, no doubt 5 Star is a "BRAND" in it's own right and I think their business module works really successfully. They have a well established shop and while they are at the top end of the scale for Asian brothels, you can still get a 30 min session for $150 with a huge selection of girls and the "5 Star" services, so for me, if I'm after FS, I will not think twice and head straight to 5 Star rather than paying the $60/60 min massage + $100 FS, even in my favourite MSs! It is that simple.

And then they introduced the private Penthouse services @$350/hr which is in direct competition with all the outcall agencies, the difference is, the 5 Star girls who get to work in the Penthouse are usually the creme de la creme from the shop such as Milo and Moon, or they are being viewed by management as worthy of working in the Penthouse so that policy in itself is almost like a quality assurance and so far I have not read too many bad reviews on 5 Star Penthouse girls so I guess they have lived up to their end of the bargain. Not sucking up to 5 Star here as I don't even go there that often but I tell it as I see it.

One more suggestion though, perhaps a shop like Ginza could learn a thing or two here: if they are really moving to a shop, then I think its a good opportunity for them to copy the 5 Star system and keep their CBD venue as a "Penthouse" type operation, the shop should have similar charge scale as their current operation which should ensure a high volume turn over. And the CBD venue can be more upmarket and exclusive, charge a higher premium by all means and I am sure they will know who are the right "Ginza" girls to place there, and may be spend some money to upgrade the place, how about it Wilson (that's the boss's name right, sorry, I have never been) ?

I love competitions, and only the best and fittest should do well and survive.............haha

Just my two cents

Cheers

:smile:

[bhd]

Myoutcall has a new name called Sydcats... just thought I would point it out...
When you see another influx of brand girls, they probably are just same girls from MOC to anothe name.

I think they realize their reputation is really bad now.
And instead of changing their customer service, they change their name.. class act they are...

[Sextus]

AHLungor wrote:

"The Ginza CBD venue can be more upmarket and exclusive, charge a higher premium by all means and I am sure they will know who are the right "Ginza" girls to place there, and may be spend some money to upgrade the place, how about it Wilson?"

Sextus:
I wonder how many fans of Ginza would like your suggestion of the best girls there being creamed off and they'd then have to pay much more if they wanted to see them? Not many of the Ginza punters I'lll bet. Not any of them, I'll bet.

[AHLUNGOR]

AHLungor wrote:

"The Ginza CBD venue can be more upmarket and exclusive, charge a higher premium by all means and I am sure they will know who are the right "Ginza" girls to place there, and may be spend some money to upgrade the place, how about it Wilson?"

Sextus:
I wonder how many fans of Ginza would like your suggestion of the best girls there being creamed off and they'd then have to pay much more if they wanted to see them? Not many of the Ginza punters I'lll bet. Not any of them, I'll bet.

Hi Brother Sextus,

You are absolutely right!! on a punters point of view that is. I was probably more thinking along the side of the shop owners, but ultimately the market will decide if it is worthwhile for their money.

My comments before was not suggesting that Ginza (after relocation and rebranding) is gonna charge the prices similar to 5 Star, they are currently very successful because there is a big gap between their prices and that of 5 Star and I think to maintain their competitive edge, they will need to keep it:

Current prices:
5 Star 30 min $150, 60 min $280, Penthouse $350/hr
Ginza 30 min $100, 60 min $160, Private apartment, may be $200-$220/hr

Now, if you ask the same question again, may be some punters will pay the higher price and be with the higher quality Ginza girl in the private apartment instead of at the shop. I think the current three rooms apartment won't work, better be one girl, one apartment, so you have the absolute privacy during your session, and that worth more money.

Again, just a thought.

Cheers

[Sextus]

[QUOTE=AHLUNGOR;100528]Hi Brother Sextus,

You are absolutely right!! on a punters point of view that is. I was probably more thinking along the side of the shop owners, but ultimately the market will decide if it is worthwhile for their money. "


I much prefer it if you could just look after we punters with your advice AhLungor, mate, and not worry so much about the shop owners. We on the forum are the ones who are your brothers. I haven't been to Ginza yet, but I'd hate it if the cream was skimmed off before I ever made it there. Hopefully Wilson is happy with his business model. The punters sure seem to be!

[AHLUNGOR]

I much prefer it if you could just look after we punters with your advice AhLungor, mate, and not worry so much about the shop owners. We on the forum are the ones who are your brothers. I haven't been to Ginza yet, but I'd hate it if the cream was skimmed off before I ever made it there. Hopefully Wilson is happy with his business model. The punters sure seem to be!

HI Brother Sextus,

My apology if what I said before would have offended you or other brothers, how dare me to think for or try to give advices to the shops!!. What the hack do I know ??

But I don't think we should have a us against them mentality. Any shop owners who provide good services and quality WLs/MLs to us honry dudes are my brothers and sisters too. I much rather view the entire sex industry and the punting public as one big happy family. Sorry if I seem a bit bias here, I can't help it, some of my friends are shop owners too, so when I think and post, I inevitably think for the best benefits (win win) for both the shops and punters alike. If that attitude is wrong, then so be it, it's just me.

As I said before, ultimately, the market and supply and demand will decide, any tactics, sales strategies, special promotions, and whether they are genuine good deals or a scheme to try to trick people, only time will tell and again, may the best and fairest do well and prosper. Good quality of girls and good customers services are the only sure things as far as I am concerned. So I don't think you need to be too concerned about who is giving advice to whom. I don't think a little comments like mine could stuff things up big time, you may have given me too much credit.....haha, Most shops will probably just look at me no more than a stingy BS artist.............lol

And please let's not start another argument here, I have only ever mean well and with respects and with all good intentions.

Cheers

:smile:

[Sextus]

No Ahlungor mate, definitely no argument, I think you are one of the most reasonable and calming influences on this forum.

Because of the respect I have for you I feel many others would have this too, so I was paranoid about your influence. Or my wallet was, if your advice led to quality girls being put out of my reach. There are too many quality girls out of my reach already, and Ginza is a rare oasis of quality and price for punters like me.

And I am paranoid about losing it......

[AHLUNGOR]

No Ahlungor mate, definitely no argument, I think you are one of the most reasonable and calming influences on this forum.

Because of the respect I have for you I feel many others would have this too, so I was paranoid about your influence. Or my wallet was, if your advice led to quality girls being put out of my reach. There are too many quality girls out of my reach already, and Ginza is a rare oasis of quality and price for punters like me.

And I am paranoid about losing it......

Well, well, well, Brother Sextus, you are paranoid about losing the punting opportunity at the Ginza girls and I am envy of you having the wallet to be even in that position, at least you are a FS punter.

In comparison, I am this cheap cheap massage shop punter, saving money every week try to get a hand job while you are getting blow jobs ad full on jobs. You are streets ahead of me mate !!............haha

Cheers

[altgourami]

Times are tough. Shops are doing it tough. Girls are finding it hard to make ends meet and are seeking higher priced, higher risk jobs.

[AHLUNGOR]

Times are tough. Shops are doing it tough. Girls are finding it hard to make ends meet and are seeking higher priced, higher risk jobs.

Yeah, a few of the massage shops I know are all experiencing some drops in business, I guess leading up to Christmas, this situation could be expected, people are just so cash strapped and credit cards max out. Things like presents, entertainment, dining and parties, gifting, school holidays and family holidays all coming up, punting dollars will be stretched to the limit and became a luxury item no doubt.

Cheers

[EvolutionTroll]

No Ahlungor mate, definitely no argument, I think you are one of the most reasonable and calming influences on this forum.

Because of the respect I have for you I feel many others would have this too, so I was paranoid about your influence. Or my wallet was, if your advice led to quality girls being put out of my reach. There are too many quality girls out of my reach already, and Ginza is a rare oasis of quality and price for punters like me.

And I am paranoid about losing it......

Got to agree with Sextus on this point since my income is heaps low but I am willing to just put out at times for an amazing punt at Ginza which I have never tried before either!

Since I saw the AR on the halfie working at Ginza I was deadset on saving up enough to just blow a 1 hour $200+ punt and keep it as something memorable!

But I also definitely agree with Ahlungor's point of view on the win win situation for both punters and the shop owners, it is actually really good advice, but depending on whom the customers are mostly at it may or may not work out.

Personally if I had a favourite WL and it was at a $80 for half hour session, but suddenly got jacked up to $160 for half a hour, I would definitely not see her anymore as it just doesn't feel right and not keen on pulling out more $$ for the same doe.

[Sextus]

"Personally if I had a favourite WL and it was at a $80 for half hour session, but suddenly got jacked up to $160 for half a hour, I would definitely not see her anymore as it just doesn't feel right and not keen on pulling out more $$ for the same doe.[/QUOTE]

"But I also definitely agree with Ahlungor's point of view on the win win situation for both punters and the shop owners, it is actually really good advice."



The market that AHlungor was advising Ginza turn to is already catered to elsewhere. I just wanted him to leave Ginza alone for us blokes! I'm less interested, much less interested, in shop owners trying to make more money by creaming off their best girls to put in a higher price establishment. I fail to see any win win situation in that at all. I do see a win / lose situation however. And you can guess which side of that equation we punters would be on.

As you said, double the price for the same doe you had last week? A....win / win??

Ps. "Doe" is a lovely, pretty term. Thank you for that.

[Sextus]

Sorry, this is all just hypothetical. I must like to debate too much. I'm relaxed! AhLungor, just look after both our pockets for us!

[Max Impact]

The influx of Brand seems to me to be a hidden price increase. The new premium price is beginning to be $400. None of us would be keen on this price creep I'm sure.

[ics]

I can understand if the girls are providing good services. But look at these agencies, they brand the girl BEFORE any review appears. I miss how BM used to not brand their girls until massive positive reviews are flooding in and girls are highly sough after. I believe that might better justify the price. But as Max Impact said, we will soon see 350 is the norm while 400 is the prestigious girl.

[DeepImpact]

A brand girl who an agency wants to charge a premium for needs to earn the premium charged in terms of the service experience delivered to me as well as her looks. There are not many girls around at the moment who truly deserve to be classified as being a class above the normal girl, but there are lots of girls around being changed at brand rates. if an agency has more than a third of their girls as brand girls then forget it, they are full of it. If the girl is a brand then she is going to have to do COF as far as I am concerned. It's always funny to see a 'brand pretty girl' with a cum moustache.

[ics]

A brand girl who an agency wants to charge a premium for needs to earn the premium charged in terms of the service experience delivered to me as well as her looks. There are not many girls around at the moment who truly deserve to be classified as being a class above the normal girl, but there are lots of girls around being changed at brand rates. if an agency has more than a third of their girls as brand girls then forget it, they are full of it. If the girl is a brand then she is going to have to do COF as far as I am concerned. It's always funny to see a 'brand pretty girl' with a cum moustache.

I second this, especially the COF part. Imagine being charged $380 an hour for a so-called brand girl and only ended up (enjoying!) 30 minutes (sorry to the bro who saw this girl). But if you look at most of the agencies, definitely more than a third are "brand" girls. Anyways, perhaps I am still living in the good old days where a brand girl occasionally showed up and/or I just have shallow pocket...

[Max Impact]

If I ran an agency right now I would concentrate on service not increasing my prices. This shows the lack of business talent in some operators.

[DeepImpact]

If I ran an agency right now I would concentrate on service not increasing my prices. This shows the lack of business talent in some operators.

There are always a lot of guys willing to try a new girl at a more expensive price. As long as there are new girls then service and complaints don't mean much as they will still gain more customers then they lose.

[AHLUNGOR]

Bro., this will only be true if customers are willing to pay and afford to pay. In the current state of the economy and the dire economic outlook, I do not think there will be many customers willing and afford to pay $350/$400 an hour as a norm. Cases of such are only isolated and justified on their unique circumstances.

The norm is still $300 for normal outcall girls new to this industry and $350 for the very pretty ones with very good services. Otherwise the girl will not get enough customers and at the end of the day, she earns less because of her greediness. The same holds true for the agencies.

Mind you, there are still plenty of shops/brothels around offering young and good girls at much cheaper prices as well as 30 minutes and 45 minutes options. Don't confine yourself to agencies if this segment of the market does not operate properly.

As far as I know, outcall girls are also suffering from the recent downturn of business and that's why they ask for more in order to compensate for the insufficient number of customers particular for the ones who only work for short term say about a month or so. The more they ask for, the less they will get at the end of day I believe.

Let the market performs its functions and be a smart consumer and shop around !!!

Very wise words as usual from Brother Niceman,

I don't really know much about the outcall market but I have a feeling that a good young WL who works at places like 5 Star will probably make more money day in and day out than an average outcall girls. I could be wrong.

I was told once (true story) that a WL in cheap places such as 27 Christina Rd Villawood could make $1,000 in one 12 hr shift but gee, that was a hard life, she literally got her brains fucked out, but she made the dole. and usually can't work two days in a row, the body just won't take it. I guess the outcall girls will make a $1,000 a day a lot easier - may be 5 jobs??

And then you got those charging $400/hr or $600/2 hr min or overnighters only but then again, they may not be working all that often. So I really don't know.

If the girl is really young and beautiful and has a hot body and willing to work hard and give services, then she will make good money no doubt. Just don't know how the agencies got the girls over here, whether there is a contract and/or debts involved or if the girls are just free lance and recruited locally and are free to come and go or even jump ship to other agencies.

So who's the outcall experts in the know..............haha

Cheers

[wilisno]

Real experts won't be disclosing others' commercial secrets !

[Jj999]

Very wise words as usual from Brother Niceman,

I don't really know much about the outcall market but I have a feeling that a good young WL who works at places like 5 Star will probably make more money day in and day out than an average outcall girls. I could be wrong.

I was told once (true story) that a WL in cheap places such as 27 Christina Rd Villawood could make $1,000 in one 12 hr shift but gee, that was a hard life, she literally got her brains fucked out, but she made the dole. and usually can't work two days in a row, the body just won't take it. I guess the outcall girls will make a $1,000 a day a lot easier - may be 5 jobs??

And then you got those charging $400/hr or $600/2 hr min or overnighters only but then again, they may not be working all that often. So I really don't know.

If the girl is really young and beautiful and has a hot body and willing to work hard and give services, then she will make good money no doubt. Just don't know how the agencies got the girls over here, whether there is a contract and/or debts involved or if the girls are just free lance and recruited locally and are free to come and go or even jump ship to other agencies.

So who's the outcall experts in the know..............haha

Cheers

One thing that amazes me, when I become a regular at 5*.
In any day, on average they would have 10 girls working.
Sometimes could be more, like 13,14, or 15.
But in my time there, I heard that, it doesn't matter if there are 13 girls working, every single girl, would get decent amount of money everyday. And of course, the queens, the top, the pinnacle, whatever you call them would get higher number easily.
Well, you could imagine how the shop is doing! Lol.
And you know, they don't need to work 12 hours! 5* opens at 3P.M and close at 2.30A.M though not everytime, that's not 12 hours, to find someone there work from open to close is very rare. And sometimes if there is no girl left, probably around 1P.M they close the door.

In a smaller place, where the quantity of girl is lacking, I believe the story of a day where a girl make $1000 in a 12hrs shift.
I'm not buying the story if it's $1000 everytime a girl is working..

[AHLUNGOR]

One thing that amazes me, when I become a regular at 5*.
In any day, on average they would have 10 girls working.
Sometimes could be more, like 13,14, or 15.
But in my time there, I heard that, it doesn't matter if there are 13 girls working, every single girl, would get decent amount of money everyday. And of course, the queens, the top, the pinnacle, whatever you call them would get higher number easily.
Well, you could imagine how the shop is doing! Lol.
And you know, they don't need to work 12 hours! 5* opens at 3P.M and close at 2.30A.M though not everytime, that's not 12 hours, to find someone there work from open to close is very rare. And sometimes if there is no girl left, probably around 1P.M they close the door.

In a smaller place, where the quantity of girl is lacking, I believe the story of a day where a girl make $1000 in a 12hrs shift.
I'm not buying the story if it's $1000 everytime a girl is working..

I think top girls in 5 star will have no problem hitting $1,000 a day.

That example I gave, the WL actual got a very nice rack of 36D cups so she always got picked first from the line up, and no she doesn't make the grand every shift , about half the time still , she told me she sent home $7,000 after working two weeks (4 days/ week) and I believe her!

Cheers

[Silver fox massage]

Silver Fox have two brand girl

Lisa, Top 1
Mia, Top Korean

no high price, same other, very popular

[wilisno]

Haha, Foxy the King/Queen of ambush advertising !

[kickass]

Over priced ...

[Jj999]

I think top girls in 5 star will have no problem hitting $1,000 a day.

That example I gave, the WL actual got a very nice rack of 36D cups so she always got picked first from the line up, and no she doesn't make the grand every shift , about half the time still , she told me she sent home $7,000 after working two weeks (4 days/ week) and I believe her!

Cheers

Oh yeah.
I've heard from other customers, about the famous Joan, who has retired.
Working 6hours was enough for her to make $1000.
Lol.

[ics]

I just noticed that Bluemoon has reduced the price of the new girl Miko to $300. I don't know the reason but I deeply appreciate the gesture. Though they also under the phase of pushing out more brand girls, the boss is one of the nicest one I've dealt with. No problem with cancelling at the last minute, no problem with any requests, and may I say, has the least intimidating voice (compared to the dickhead @ MOC). More importantly, they not only read forum posts but also take some actions. Good job bluemoon. If I do come back to outcall market, you will still be the 1st choice.

[Max Impact]

Good on you Bluemoon! You are a class act here!

[bill_100]

I just noticed that Bluemoon has reduced the price of the new girl Miko to $300...............

Obviously market forces have impacted their turnover so they are trying to get extra customers as they have colossal margins. Tourism is down so "fly in"visitors are less common.

It is happening all over Sydney, check the local rags where "specials" are becoming common.

[wilisno]

Obviously market forces have impacted their turnover so they are trying to get extra customers as they have colossal margins. Tourism is down so "fly in"visitors are less common.

It is happening all over Sydney, check the local rags where "specials" are becoming common.
That's not the case ! If you have followed the forum yesterday morning, it was because the girl had an unfavorable report !

[tody]

Regardless of having favourite WL once the price gets jacked up it doesnt take long to find another favourite at a reasonable price.


I was seeing a WL in a private apartment for awhile .... overtime the price crept up along with the attitude ... Too much familiarity. Despite the amazing massage and amazing service it was time to move on.

[tody]

Ginza is perfect as is ... price and location

[bill_100]

That's not the case ! If you have followed the forum yesterday morning, it was because the girl had an unfavorable report !

wilisno I thought this thread was about the "Sudden-Influx-of-Brand-Girls" which developed into a discussion on prices and price increases. I could see nothing about a negative report in this thread, can you please explain?

Whether you or our Treasurer believe it or not, the economy is not good and disposable income is reduced in most states.

There is another concept in business when it comes to pricing policy and it is called "price elasticity". Basically people will only buy a product up to a certain perceived value verus benefit/quality based on market conditions.

My comment about the shops was in general and that are finding it hard is true. It is a combination of oversupply, rising costs of living, global uncertainty, stalling economy and reduced disposable income.
The AUD is high and tourism is in trouble due to lack of visitors and this would impact the higher end of the market.

This is impacting all retail businesses as well as the stock market, not only brothels at all ends of the market.

[wilisno]

wilisno I thought this thread was about the "Sudden-Influx-of-Brand-Girls" which developed into a discussion on prices and price increases. I could see nothing about a negative report in this thread, can you please explain?



My comment was in response to your post where you quoted someone's post about BlueMoon dropping the price of Miko due to the market trend. Have a look yourself, if you didn't mean that, you didn't have to quote that post talking about the market condition !

[AHLUNGOR]

The discussion of sudden influx of brand girls is a discussion on prices and prices increase!

If the brand girls are $300/hr or less, I don't think we'll be having this discussion at all,

Cheers

[AHLUNGOR]

May be this type of Brand Girls we don't mind seeing flooding the market !!


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[kickass]

I don't know what a "brand" girl is. To me, I thought it was a girl who was in advertising and promotion and had done some promo work. These girls work car shows, etc. Isn't that a "brand" girl? If so, we should get to know what brand they have promoted and see some of their work as evidence that they are a brand girl.

Some of the private shops advertise brand girls. It appears to me now that these are just girls who are more expensive, which could occur as a result of popularity, service, looks, or a combination.

Will someone tell me the definition of a brand girl please?

[Sextus]

I think it means a gorgeous looking girl (though it would be be very tough to beat those photos that AhLungor posted above) with a guaranteed outstanding and co-operative service. These would be the criteria needed to qualify the girl to the brand. In that sense, any girl within that particular brand would be interchangeable on these fundamentals.

From what I read, in addition to that, some extra abbreviations are a minimum part of the package too - cim, and maybe the two Holy Grails, cimws and cof.

[kickass]

Sammi was a "brand" girl ... and not gorgeous!

[ics]

MOC's standard, as long as the girl is above 170, BRAND without question.

[AHLUNGOR]

I don't know what a "brand" girl is. To me, I thought it was a girl who was in advertising and promotion and had done some promo work. These girls work car shows, etc. Isn't that a "brand" girl? If so, we should get to know what brand they have promoted and see some of their work as evidence that they are a brand girl.

Some of the private shops advertise brand girls. It appears to me now that these are just girls who are more expensive, which could occur as a result of popularity, service, looks, or a combination.

Will someone tell me the definition of a brand girl please?

Haha, this brand girl debate just won't go away, right ?

Brand girl - 品牌的女孩

So if you accept that shops or agencies such as 5 Star, Ginza, MOC, Bluemoon etc. has got a reputable and respectable brand name, then whoever the girls that the shop and agency think will be best to represent the true quality and nature of the company's service standard, then those are their brand girls.

Now there could be just the 1 brand girl for each shop or agency and she will be the undisputed Queen of services or Creme de la Creme of the company or the brand.

And I see nothing wrong if there are two, three, six and nine girls from the same shop or agency all be declared a brand girl, if they all possess that certain quality.

On the other hand, if some of these "brand girls" are really NOT up to it, then the shop or the agency will be hurting their own brand name.

Just my two cents.

I can easily name three to four "Brand Masseurs" from each one of my favourite massage shops, but if I try to name eight or nine, then I will in fact be pulling back down the top 3/4 girls to a lower level that they don't deserve to be at. Am I making sense here??

Cheers

:smile:

[kickass]

Lungor,

I don't mind either, so long as that "certain quality" is consistent. But it isn't.

[Sammi]

Sammi was a "brand" girl ... a d not gorgeous!

Before i write this reply,
I would like to apologize to Bluemoon management first.sorry to my boss
Please understand what is my WL feeling
I really cant please this asshole anymore
Sorry....


Hey~ low educated punter Mr Kickass
I always mix up your name with asshole
But u are really an asshole baby~
Can u please stop bullshit?!

I am hard feeling to earn those $350 from U~!those dirty money~!shit

Dont complaint to the girl when you cum in 10minutes,
that why i was provide 45mintues to u
Thats is all~! if u can hv sex for a longer time i sure every WL can serve u for a longer time~
If u cant satify from asian girl please go back to fuck the western girl or fuck your hands~
Dont brother me Here~
You dont hv the right to call my name~damn~!
Dont forget what u do is shame and making western punters lost face~!
U paid the money dosent mean you can blah blah blah likes a ladyboy~
I am not a WL anymore and I am not employed by bluemoon in this moment~!
Dont think that what you paid is very big money to me~
Leave me your bank account number to me
I would be very please to refund those 350AUD to you as the christmas gift to u
if u still think that you r 100%right~!

[wilisno]

Whoa ! Sammi the red hot chilli ! :miao:

[chandra_man1]

the weather is very hot today i think

[Sammi]

Whoa ! Sammi the red hot chilli ! :miao:

Yup~i have 50% korean blood~
I just came back from korea yesterday
I am hot~!
我都忍得佢耐啦，
我就襯而家退休，有咩自己負責
佢真係唔小唔鬆化

[wilisno]

Yup~i have 50% korean blood~
I just came back from korea yesterday
I am hot~!
我都忍得佢耐啦，
我就襯而家退休，有咩自己負責
佢真係唔小唔鬆化
哈哈，算啦！妳都小過佢咯，如果佢冇料到又唔鬆化都冇法啦！;) ;) ;)

[AHLUNGOR]

好嘢 妹妹仔發火丙到條粉腸七彩，好精釆 ，呢啲賤男唔刁唔得。妹妹您好猛料呀 ！
不過唔好回水比佢，無理由比佢白食，明買明賣叫佢過主啦

[Sextus]

Sammi, I hope you don't mind if I write this in English.

Plz join up with Blue Moon again and come back to Sydney.

We need girls with your spirit!

If you come back I will definitely see you.

I'm the only one that has dreamt about you!

[garfield]

Sammi, I hope you don't mind if I write this in English.

Plz join up with Blue Moon again and come back to Sydney.

We need girls with your spirit!

If you come back I will definitely see you.

I'm the only one that has dreamt about you!

Yeah, We miss you sammi !

[wilisno]

Yeah, We miss you sammi !

Sammi's not in the mood to flirt today ! :miao:

[Sammi]

Sammi's not in the mood to flirt today ! :miao:

LOL~返左黎dry呀嘛~

[Sammi]

Sammi, I hope you don't mind if I write this in English.

Plz join up with Blue Moon again and come back to Sydney.

We need girls with your spirit!

If you come back I will definitely see you.

I'm the only one that has dreamt about you!

Btw did u cum in your dream?

[Sammi]

好嘢 妹妹仔發火丙到條粉腸七彩，好精釆 ，呢啲賤男唔刁唔得。妹妹您好猛料呀 ！
不過唔好回水比佢，無理由比佢白食，明買明賣叫佢過主啦

我話回水，係串到佢盡~

[wilisno]

Btw did u cum in your dream?

Hahahahaha, how cruel ! Now you are flirting ! :miao:

[AHLUNGOR]

LOL~返左黎dry呀嘛~

You mean your auntie has returned ??

[AHLUNGOR]

我話回水&#65292 ;係串到佢盡~

有啲人使小小錢就份晒大爺 ，唔駛比面佢！出來玩最緊要識尊重啲女仔 ，人人都有阿媽生，有 respect 就大家 happy !!

[kickass]

I agree with Bill. Generally, the prices are coming DOWN. A number of the over priced shops haven't increased prices for several years. Tiffany's, for example, has been $300p/h for 3-4 years now. Until August this year I only punted at western shops with western girls. Now most of my punts are with Asians. I'll bet many guys are doing the same. That means two things: western shops will be losing business and have to lower the price, and more punting at Asian shops means they can keep the prices down.

I think $150-$180 is the right price for a punt and it looks like prices will be staying this way for quite a while.

[chandra_man1]

How does 5* choose who gets to work the penthouse ? Moon and Milo are there due ti reputation so thats understandable. As for the new ones at 5* penthouse is it due to their stunning looks or because they are ABC/J so they have a premium or its just the girl only wish to work penthouse ?

[Travelmate]

wilisno I thought this thread was about the "Sudden-Influx-of-Brand-Girls" which developed into a discussion on prices and price increases. I could see nothing about a negative report in this thread, can you please explain?

Whether you or our Treasurer believe it or not, the economy is not good and disposable income is reduced in most states.

There is another concept in business when it comes to pricing policy and it is called "price elasticity". Basically people will only buy a product up to a certain perceived value verus benefit/quality based on market conditions.

My comment about the shops was in general and that are finding it hard is true. It is a combination of oversupply, rising costs of living, global uncertainty, stalling economy and reduced disposable income.
The AUD is high and tourism is in trouble due to lack of visitors and this would impact the higher end of the market.

This is impacting all retail businesses as well as the stock market, not only brothels at all ends of the market.

Great Marco-economic and Micro-economic analysis .. we should have a beer .. hahaha
talking Euro economic problem.
China GDP slow down.
Australia Two Speed Economy.

haha

Merry Xmas

[Travelmate]

有啲人使小小錢就份晒大爺 ，唔駛比面佢！出來玩最緊要識尊重啲女仔 ，人人都有阿媽生，有 respect 就大家 happy !!

100% support ....

[Littlewonder]

It would appear that the brand girls is just another racket by this shop to charge more for what would other wise be standard girls.

[Gucci2012]

Before i write this reply,
I would like to apologize to Bluemoon management first.sorry to my boss
Please understand what is my WL feeling
I really cant please this asshole anymore
Sorry....


Hey~ low educated punter Mr Kickass
I always mix up your name with asshole
But u are really an asshole baby~
Can u please stop bullshit?!

I am hard feeling to earn those $350 from U~!those dirty money~!shit

Dont complaint to the girl when you cum in 10minutes,
that why i was provide 45mintues to u
Thats is all~! if u can hv sex for a longer time i sure every WL can serve u for a longer time~
If u cant satify from asian girl please go back to fuck the western girl or fuck your hands~
Dont brother me Here~
You dont hv the right to call my name~damn~!
Dont forget what u do is shame and making western punters lost face~!
U paid the money dosent mean you can blah blah blah likes a ladyboy~
I am not a WL anymore and I am not employed by bluemoon in this moment~!
Dont think that what you paid is very big money to me~
Leave me your bank account number to me
I would be very please to refund those 350AUD to you as the christmas gift to u
if u still think that you r 100%right~!

Wow this post is filled with passion, I love it. I'll be in Seoul - Hongdae in January hopefully I can find a girl with this kind of fire inside her.

[Sammi]

Sammi... Not only was your response unnecessarily racist and abrasive, whatever happened to customer service?

Good and bad reviews happen; that's just a part of life, but you shouldn't fire away at a client like that; it's not good for your image nor is it etiquette.

Thats why i fire away him after i retired~
Image isnt important to the ex-WL as well.
Punter have punters's behavior
And the trade was happended on one monlth ago~i wonder why he always talk about me

[wilisno]

Thats why i fire away him after i retired~
Image isnt important to the ex-WL as well.
Punter have punters's behavior
And the trade wad happended in one monlth ago~i wonder why he always talk about me

I believe you guys can talk in Korean ! :miao:

[Sammi]

Haha maybe he misses you!
메리크리스마스 언니~!

[wilisno]

That's not true ......

what are you girls talking about ? :miao:

[wilisno]

Harlot talk. The kind that involves tightened belts on the throat, deep anal fisting, getting drenched in cum and gettin eaten out raw by 8 guys at once

You can't trick me, Sammi will cover my ass !

[Gucci2012]

Not sure if that is the right type of "passion" to be looking for...lol

Standing up for yourself when someone calls your name in a negative way that's my type of passion.

I'm in the service industry... however unlike 99% of my colleagues who have to suck up and play kissy kissy with our clients/customers, I'm from the 1% that does the complete opposite. The only time our clients/ customers see my face is when they have messed up in a major way. Holding the position I have allows me to speak openly with our clients with out consequence. So let this young lady show her passion.

[wilisno]

Yes she will, she will indeed. She will cover it with lube and we will double tag your ass with dildos, go all out gangnam style on dat thang

Whoa ! This girl is hardcore ! :miao:

[Gucci2012]

Charming. Would you like a tea with that eloquent speech?

Yes but not from you.

[chandra_man1]

esther's oral skills definitely exceeds Sammi

[Littlewonder]

I wonder what makes the prices vary so much? There are places you can see a girl for an hour for as little as $100 and the price goes up from there into the Thousands of dollars for an hour!

For me a girl can only be so good and then there is her looks, her age, her personality, her nationality, etc etc.
Then there is the place or the premises
Then there is incall and out call.
I suppose there is also the mood etc of the punter.

I have always said I prefer the older girls I saw a 20 year old yesterday and at the end of an hour I felt like going and seeing a real lady or woman, to get satisfied, mind you I came with the young girl and she came too but she was too mechanical no passion for her work it was just another job.

So I guess there is a lot to decide who to see and I dont see the value in a girl cause she is young so what else are you paying extra for, yes I agree lavish premises are nice but at the end of the day how much extra do you want to pay for that luxury for an hour $50? $100?

I will stick to the $150 per hour shops where I can alway get a good punt and for me its value for money and if I want to spend $300 I can make it two hours or go twice.

At the end of the day its your money guys spend it how and where you wish in the end the market will decide.

[wilisno]

I wonder what makes the prices vary so much? There are places you can see a girl for an hour for as little as $100 and the price goes up from there into the Thousands of dollars for an hour!

For me a girl can only be so good and then there is her looks, her age, her personality, her nationality, etc etc.
Then there is the place or the premises
Then there is incall and out call.
I suppose there is also the mood etc of the punter.

I have always said I prefer the older girls I saw a 20 year old yesterday and at the end of an hour I felt like going and seeing a real lady or woman, to get satisfied, mind you I came with the young girl and she came too but she was too mechanical no passion for her work it was just another job.

So I guess there is a lot to decide who to see and I dont see the value in a girl cause she is young so what else are you paying extra for, yes I agree lavish premises are nice but at the end of the day how much extra do you want to pay for that luxury for an hour $50? $100?

I will stick to the $150 per hour shops where I can alway get a good punt and for me its value for money and if I want to spend $300 I can make it two hours or go twice.

At the end of the day its your money guys spend it how and where you wish in the end the market will decide.
You've answered your own question quite well, that's the going price for the type of girls you like, it's all good !

[River]

Brand extension is a really good marketing tool to attract different target segments.
While a younger man might not be able to afford a Georgio Armani suit, he can afford an Armani Exchange T-shirt.

I think the brand girls provide the same great service u are use to, but in as lightly different environment.
For example Moon was great at 5 star in woolloomooloo. But the same Moon at the Penthouse, offers a more intimate and private experience.

Feels more like u are vising yr girlfriends apartment , than walking into a "shop", for some people the additional privacy and intimacy that experience affords is worth the additional cost. I think the brand extension helps punters confidence about the quality.

[Travelmate]

Brand extension is a really good marketing tool to attract different target segments.
While a younger man might not be able to afford a Georgio Armani suit, he can afford an Armani Exchange T-shirt.

I think the brand girls provide the same great service u are use to, but in as lightly different environment.
For example Moon was great at 5 star in woolloomooloo. But the same Moon at the Penthouse, offers a more intimate and private experience.

Feels more like u are vising yr girlfriends apartment , than walking into a "shop", for some people the additional privacy and intimacy that experience affords is worth the additional cost. I think the brand extension helps punters confidence about the quality.

Lexus or Toyota ...??

[River]

Good analog Travelmate. Both I guess. Toyota for everyday reliability and every once in a while u want to splurge and spoil yourself so u hire a Lexus (or other exotic) for a bit.

[Travelmate]

Good analog Travelmate. Both I guess. Toyota for everyday reliability and every once in a while u want to splurge and spoil yourself so u hire a Lexus (or other exotic) for a bit.

I have no problem with this ...

How about having Lexus all the time and want Toyota for a drive?

It is working both ways

[River]

Haha, I can't afford the Lexus all the time ha

[Travelmate]

Haha, I can't afford the Lexus all the time ha

How about BMW and Mini?

[River]

That's more expensive than the lexota combo, ha
White meat is more expensive.

[AHLUNGOR]

메리크리스마스 언니~!

聖誕快樂，我的妹妹

Merry Christmas, my sister !!

[Gucci2012]

Muscle man, eh? How s the pay?

Not bad, pays the bills. I've only got one horn, hows two horns going for you?

[Richboy]

Maybe they brand the girls based on their pursue on certain brands eg Hermes dior

[Travelmate]

聖誕快樂，我的妹妹

Merry Christmas, my sister !!

Haha... Ahlungor can handle multiple language and also know how to use google translator

[AHLUNGOR]

有啲人使小小錢就份晒大爺 ，唔駛比面佢！出來玩最緊要識尊重啲女仔 ，人人都有阿媽生，有 respect 就大家 happy !!


Haha... Ahlungor can handle multiple language and also know how to use google translator

Haha, don't have no trouble with French and Spanish !!