Gambling or punting??

[LeiLoDao]

Have you guys ever went to casino to win some cash to punt and lose everything????? Then think what better things you could do with the cash e.g.. massage,in call,out call.... which probably work out cheaper

[AHLUNGOR]

Have you guys ever went to casino to win some cash to punt and lose everything????? Then think what better things you could do with the cash e.g.. massage,in call,out call.... which probably work out cheaper

That's was me many years ago !!

Went to casino tried to win $200 so that I could go to Zanadu, Chequers or Babylon and had a free session ! (those were the places to go - wasn't into FS anyway!). Sometimes I won of course, but most of the times ended up losing thousands. Max out the cards on the daily cash withdraw limits on so many occasions. It's an addiction, it's a disease. It's not fun, it's not a thrill, you will eventually lost everything !!

I was very lucky that one family tragedy ended up helping to turn me into a new leaf and I don't go to Star City anymore, not once since 2007 ! And now I am sticking to my $110 massage per week. Plus $100 on the footy (that's still $10,000 a year, come of think of it, but a lot more affordable!!), if the footy wins, I have more punts, if I lost, I have at least one RnT session.

Punt as much as you pleased, but don't go gambling.

Just my $210 worth of opinion !!

Cheers

:cool2::fire:

[IExperiment]

That's was me many years ago !!

Went to casino tried to win $200 so that I could go to Zanadu, Chequers or Babylon and had a free session ! (those were the places to go - wasn't into FS anyway!). Sometimes I won of course, but most of the times ended up losing thousands. Max out the cards on the daily cash withdraw limits on so many occasions. It's an addiction, it's a disease. It's not fun, it's not a thrill, you will eventually lost everything !!

I was very lucky that some family tragedy ended up helping to turn me into a new leaf and I don't go to Star City anymore, not once since 2007 ! And now I am sticking to my $110 massage per week. Plus $100 on the footy (that's still $10,000 a year, but a lot more affordable!!), if the footy wins, I have more punts, if I lost, I have at least one RnT session.

Punt as much as you pleased, but don't go gambling.

Just my $210 worth of opinion !!

Cheers

:cool2::fire:

Very true, for me it is the thrill. Punting is way - way cheaper but I go for the thrill :)

[CunningLinguist]

Very true, for me it is the thrill. Punting is way - way cheaper but I go for the thrill :)

The thrill of punting beats the thrill of gambling for me, and it is cheaper!

[rage_face]

Mate, I am trying to quit gambling now. Not worth it. I sometimes used to think like you - try to win $200 and go punting. The result? Lost $1000 and thought "fuck, would've just been cheaper to go punting by itself". The other thing is, if I won, I would then think "damn, $200 is a lot of money, might as well save it" so didn't go punting anyway!

Gambling is one of the worst addictions you can form IMO. I wish my friend never introduced me to the casino the cunt. The sooner you stop, the sooner your life will get better.

[Jsomeone]

gambling to punt
Gee I thought half the blokes who play the pokies do it for that reason. Many pokie palaces have a massage palour or two within staggering distance
I've met a few married men who bet on the horses to fund their punting habit.

Personally I dont gamble and if gambling is a problem for you call the gambling help line ... yadida

[Sextus]

Jsomeone, how lovely to see you here, please bring your strange avatar along with you.

[CunningLinguist]

Have you guys ever went to casino to win some cash to punt and lose everything????? Then think what better things you could do with the cash e.g.. massage,in call,out call.... which probably work out cheaper

He LeiLoDao better to invest in casino shares than play the game!
Might be worth joining a gamblers support group to help you kick the habit, might be the best decision you ever made ...

[IExperiment]

Gambling is never good as anything with quick cash always come with high risk. So just go there to have a little fun take it us it comes.2604

[LeiLoDao]

8/10 times i go to the star i would be up about $500-1000 within the first hour and leave but recently I've gone a bit greedy and try to aim for more which has screwed me up a few times in the last few weeks. i have blown about 8k in the last 3 weeks and felt like shit and i think its woken me so I've told myself no more casino and put a bet on sports once in while like what bro ahlungor does and invest on a second business

[LeiLoDao]

Gambling is never good as anything with quick cash always come with high risk. So just go there to have a little fun take it us it comes.2604

did u walk out with that money????

[IExperiment]

did u walk out with that money????

I walk out with bigger amount before and also gave it more :) like I say gambling is not great but fun for the rush. I go there for being stupid but when you win a decent amount is also fun. I go there once a month when I have time but used their hotel once a week :)

[AZNELITE88]

Gambling - there's a chance of making money
Punting - no way you will get your money back, but as long as you enjoyed it, it is sort of justified :question:

[Travelmate]

personnaly i dont like casino. i may go just for fun with friend. if i lost 500 or 1000 . it means a lot for me.

i focus on sports bet only. which i believe i have more control. more study. understanding and logic. bet 5k i dont feel there is a problem if there is a reason

i have no addiction. purely working as return of investment.

[CunningLinguist]

personnaly i dont like casino. i may go just for fun with friend. if i lost 500 or 1000 . it means a lot for me.

i focus on sports bet only. which i believe i have more control. more study. understanding and logic. bet 5k i dont feel there is a problem if there is a reason

i have no addiction. purely working as return of investment.

How many hours a week do you need to put in ?
Have you worked out your average winnings and how much you profit per hour of studying the odds and form etc ?

[AZNELITE88]

Tennis is the only sport which i have managed to make money off (gambling that is).
all the rest.. well NFI...

[Travelmate]

How many hours a week do you need to put in ?
Have you worked out your average winnings and how much you profit per hour of studying the odds and form etc ?

yes, but it depends on which sport and what events I want to play.
Spending time study which event NOT to gamble is more important
NBA is off season now.

[Sydman]

That's was me many years ago !!

Went to casino tried to win $200 so that I could go to Zanadu, Chequers or Babylon and had a free session ! (those were the places to go - wasn't into FS anyway!). Sometimes I won of course, but most of the times ended up losing thousands. Max out the cards on the daily cash withdraw limits on so many occasions. It's an addiction, it's a disease. It's not fun, it's not a thrill, you will eventually lost everything !!

I was very lucky that one family tragedy ended up helping to turn me into a new leaf and I don't go to Star City anymore, not once since 2007 ! And now I am sticking to my $110 massage per week. Plus $100 on the footy (that's still $10,000 a year, come of think of it, but a lot more affordable!!), if the footy wins, I have more punts, if I lost, I have at least one RnT session.

Punt as much as you pleased, but don't go gambling.

Just my $210 worth of opinion !!

Cheers

:cool2::fire:

That was me exactly!!
Especially this quote:
"Sometimes I won of course, but most of the times ended up losing thousands".


Mate, I am trying to quit gambling now. Not worth it. I sometimes used to think like you - try to win $200 and go punting. The result? Lost $1000 and thought "fuck, would've just been cheaper to go punting by itself". The other thing is, if I won, I would then think "damn, $200 is a lot of money, might as well save it" so didn't go punting anyway!

Gambling is one of the worst addictions you can form IMO. I wish my friend never introduced me to the casino the cunt. The sooner you stop, the sooner your life will get better.

Here is a bit of incentive for you.
I tried to quit for years. It even ruined my marriage and I still didn't quit.
I finally scaped together (increased my credit card limit :) ) enough go visit my family in Europe. The flight was Europe via Bangkok so I thought since I have never been overseas before, I may as well stop over for a week in Thailand on my way back and see a different culture. I found Pattaya on the net and have never looked back. In the past 2.5 years I have had 4 trips to Thailand, paid off $23,000 worth of personal debt, and have $21,000 in my savings account. As well as Pattaya, my trips have included Chiang Rai, Chiang Mai, Hua Hin and Bangkok. Also Phnom Phen and Siam Reap (Angkor Wat) in Cambodia, i'm not a very spiritual person but I recommend putting Angkor on your bucket list. My next trip is already booked, Thailand as usual with a side trip to the Philippines.
Apart from cheap pussy, the best thing for gamblers about Thailand is that gambling is illegal. Sure there are mafia run gambling dens but i'm not sure what would happen if as a foreigner you actually won, so i'm not tempted to go there.




8/10 times i go to the star i would be up about $500-1000 within the first hour and leave but recently I've gone a bit greedy and try to aim for more which has screwed me up a few times in the last few weeks. i have blown about 8k in the last 3 weeks and felt like shit and i think its woken me so I've told myself no more casino and put a bet on sports once in while like what bro ahlungor does and invest on a second business

That was the weird thing I noticed as the gambling got worse over the years. Early on, if I won $200-300, id go home. That ended up blowing out to I wouldn't go home until I won a grand. Unfortunately i'd lose 2-3k trying to get that 1k. You always seem to walk in, win a couple of hundred $ but its never enough. Then you lose it all.

One more tip that a counsellor told me that has helped a lot.

Don't stop gambling and try to save every cent you earn, you'll get pissed off and relapse in a big way.
Do stuff!! Instead of wasting $1000 gambling, go for a punt, buy a surfboard, buy a guitar, take your mum to dinner, go on a holiday every 6 months!!
All these things are cheaper than losing a couple of grand every fortnight. So you get experiences and memories that are much more enjoyable for a fraction of the cost, and you get more incentive not to gamble.

Sorry for the rant but this topic struck a chord with me

[CunningLinguist]

That was me exactly!!
Especially this quote:
"Sometimes I won of course, but most of the times ended up losing thousands".



Here is a bit of incentive for you.
I tried to quit for years. It even ruined my marriage and I still didn't quit.
I finally scaped together (increased my credit card limit :) ) enough go visit my family in Europe. The flight was Europe via Bangkok so I thought since I have never been overseas before, I may as well stop over for a week in Thailand on my way back and see a different culture. I found Pattaya on the net and have never looked back. In the past 2.5 years I have had 4 trips to Thailand, paid off $23,000 worth of personal debt, and have $21,000 in my savings account. As well as Pattaya, my trips have included Chiang Rai, Chiang Mai, Hua Hin and Bangkok. Also Phnom Phen and Siam Reap (Angkor Wat) in Cambodia, i'm not a very spiritual person but I recommend putting Angkor on your bucket list. My next trip is already booked, Thailand as usual with a side trip to the Philippines.
Apart from cheap pussy, the best thing for gamblers about Thailand is that gambling is illegal. Sure there are mafia run gambling dens but i'm not sure what would happen if as a foreigner you actually won, so i'm not tempted to go there.





That was the weird thing I noticed as the gambling got worse over the years. Early on, if I won $200-300, id go home. That ended up blowing out to I wouldn't go home until I won a grand. Unfortunately i'd lose 2-3k trying to get that 1k. You always seem to walk in, win a couple of hundred $ but its never enough. Then you lose it all.

One more tip that a counsellor told me that has helped a lot.

Don't stop gambling and try to save every cent you earn, you'll get pissed off and relapse in a big way.
Do stuff!! Instead of wasting $1000 gambling, go for a punt, buy a surfboard, buy a guitar, take your mum to dinner, go on a holiday every 6 months!!
All these things are cheaper than losing a couple of grand every fortnight. So you get experiences and memories that are much more enjoyable for a fraction of the cost, and you get more incentive not to gamble.

Sorry for the rant but this topic struck a chord with me

Sounds like some good advice for our gambling addicted Bro(s) ...

[rooter]

Punting is a sure return; you pay your money you get sex ( the quality you will get is always a bit of a punt - but you will get something in return.
The lure of gambling is you will "get something for nothing". The reality is you will probably lose your money and get stress, anger, and disappointment in return.

So punting seems like the wiser decision.

If you are going to gamble treat it as an investment and not recreation - if you want recreation then spend your money on sex, dining out, the movies, night clubs etc.
Same basic rules when gambling:
1.Don't gamble for fun
2. Don't gamble when drunk
3. Don't gamble with friends
4. Avoid games of chance eg pokies, roulette - you will ALWAYS LOSE in the long run
5. Stick to games that involve skill - if you are good at poker or blackjack then you have a chance.
6. Stick to sports betting and :
- stick to sports you understand - do your research.
- stick to simple outcomes like win/lose/draw (that way you have a 1/2 or 1/3 chance)
- avoid exotics, multis, exact score etc or just put very small amounts on them
- don't be lured by "generous odds", back what you actually expect to win; bookies give generous odds because its almost certain it won't happen.
- don't try and make big money quickly, but rather just regular small winnings - treat it as a regular income stream rather than a windfall win
- as you start to make money increase the size of your bets but always on short odds or favourites (short odds are offfered for good reason) - NEVER bet big money on a long shot!

These tips are no guarantee - it's gambling after all.

The best advice is still probably the boring advice your mum gave you which is to put the money aside in the bank every week - it's slow and boring but its a guaranteed result.
Then spend your savings on hookers! - that's probably not your mum's advice, but hey, you gotta have fun!

[Punter Poontang]

Don't stop gambling and try to save every cent you earn, you'll get pissed off and relapse in a big way.

Sorry for the rant but this topic struck a chord with me

Great post Sydman, you'd have to be the first guy I've ever heard of that was better off financially AFTER discovering Patts, well done!!

I agree with that bit about stopping completely, not that I've ever been a big gambler or punter, but if you need to stop it completely then it still rules your life to some extent and you're likely to be just as unhappy as when you were losing.

Everything in moderation, folks, that's the key.

[benife]

The best advice is still probably the boring advice your mum gave you which is to put the money aside in the bank every week - it's slow and boring but its a guaranteed result.
Then spend your savings on hookers! - that's probably not your mum's advice, but hey, you gotta have fun!


Gotta love the last line~!!

[CunningLinguist]

Punting is a sure return; you pay your money you get sex ( the quality you will get is always a bit of a punt - but you will get something in return.
The lure of gambling is you will "get something for nothing". The reality is you will probably lose your money and get stress, anger, and disappointment in return.

So punting seems like the wiser decision.

If you are going to gamble treat it as an investment and not recreation - if you want recreation then spend your money on sex, dining out, the movies, night clubs etc.
Same basic rules when gambling:
1.Don't gamble for fun
2. Don't gamble when drunk
3. Don't gamble with friends
4. Avoid games of chance eg pokies, roulette - you will ALWAYS LOSE in the long run
5. Stick to games that involve skill - if you are good at poker or blackjack then you have a chance.
6. Stick to sports betting and :
- stick to sports you understand - do your research.
- stick to simple outcomes like win/lose/draw (that way you have a 1/2 or 1/3 chance)
- avoid exotics, multis, exact score etc or just put very small amounts on them
- don't be lured by "generous odds", back what you actually expect to win; bookies give generous odds because its almost certain it won't happen.
- don't try and make big money quickly, but rather just regular small winnings - treat it as a regular income stream rather than a windfall win
- as you start to make money increase the size of your bets but always on short odds or favourites (short odds are offfered for good reason) - NEVER bet big money on a long shot!

These tips are no guarantee - it's gambling after all.

The best advice is still probably the boring advice your mum gave you which is to put the money aside in the bank every week - it's slow and boring but its a guaranteed result.
Then spend your savings on hookers! - that's probably not your mum's advice, but hey, you gotta have fun!

I agree, I reckon there is one more rule though, the golden rule:
7. Don't double your bets to recoup your losses.

[icegel]

Any king or master of roulette here?

:-) please share your advice or PM me


Many thanks

[CunningLinguist]

Any king or master of roulette here?

:-) please share your advice or PM me


Many thanks

I'm not a 99King just loyalty, my advice is to read posts 20 & 23 above ... :)

[LeiLoDao]

i havnt been gambling for 2 weeks or so and saved up quite a bit and using the $$ on punting but theres a few time where after a punt you feel like u want to win your punting money back....anyone had this feeling??

[Travelmate]

i have pm few brothers last night.
bet on m. bartori to win double up bryan on tennis

happy ending

everyone who go to auburn tab should win

[micazzofamale]

thanks to barry and jaime soon sydney will have another casino for gamblers to lose their dough in..... definitely not needed i dont care what bs they spin

[Potluck2.0]

yeah LLD bro, happened to me last week. had a $110 FS punt which was fantastic. Was a bit high afterwards so walked into the pub across the road and lost 100 on the pokies trying to win back the money i spent on punting...so my punt ended up being $210 :/

[Dorian]

I consider it a blessing that Gambling is one 'vice' I never understood at all. (and I've had a LOT of vices) It just gives me no pleasure - I don't see the appeal or any fun in it at all, you know that in the long run you come out behind. Wouldn't you rather sink that lost money into more punts? :) But I respect that others do enjoy gambling, to each their own! But Punting all the way for me :)

[Sydman]

Great post Sydman, you'd have to be the first guy I've ever heard of that was better off financially AFTER discovering Patts, well done!!
.

Poontang,
Pattaya can be a money pit. Its so cheap in some ways but its a town of excess's.
You can find good accommodation for under $45 a night, food is dirt cheap if you like thai food and booze is relatively cheap. What gets me is the lady drinks. The drunker I get, the more generous I get. I end up with 3 or 4 girls plus the mamasan at my table and my tab grows much quicker than expected!!

When I go for 3 weeks I only go to pattaya for the last 7-10 days. In other towns I find a bargirl or massage lady in her late 20's to mid 30's that is happy to spend a few days with me and I visit the tourist sites in the area. Works out way cheaper and you actually get to see stuff apart from the inside of a bar.

Once I hit pattaya its pretty much just drinking and sex. Next trip I have to try devils den :) I've tried to get there a few times but get distracted on the way.

[AHLUNGOR]

thanks to barry and jaime soon sydney will have another casino for gamblers to lose their dough in..... definitely not needed i dont care what bs they spin

Not sure if the new 6 Star Crown will be open for the general public ??

It was meant to be for the high rollers only, may be minimum hand at $1,000 - that would keep me out!

Just wondering how they can keep the mobs out if they just wonder in for a look see !!

Cheers

[glamos]

good post:spook::spook::spook::spook:

[OneandDone]

The typical Japanese salary man can relate to this thread. Usually the wife has him by the balls and he has a daily $20 stipend. So take 15 of these poor bastards hitting pachinko nightly, odds are 14 will do their dough but one lucky dude gets a punt that night.

[distanceRunner]

Sadly, I’ve fallen victim to the gambling addiction, and it isn’t good. I know I need to stop, but currently I feel it’s a vice for deeper things, my elders have a hoarding issue which isnt pleasant, I’ve tried for years to assist the situation and have given up trying to the extent of what’s the point in saving my money. :cry:

It sounds dumb, I’m trying to better myself as of recently by putting a limit on, realistically I should just go cold turkey and delete the account and put everything into focus on running for upcoming events, distances you would think are not possible, not quite 730km like someone ran recently, just 100km, Which would be 1000% better, and also start paying off excessive debts.

With tax time around the corner it should put my brain in a much better situation. I got this. I hope.

[RO1312]

Yep. It’s a rinse repeat cycle. You either go in , win then lose. Or lose straight away

Then you decide to drown yourself with alcohol, and/or other substances then think it’s a good idea to go have a punt to lift your spirits. It’s good at the time, but feel much worse otherwise

[DanThePuntingMan]

Talking about gambling, i use to see this young viet ml from a city rnt shop pre-covid and one evening i was her last customer and she asked me if i wanted to join her at the casino to gamble for a bit, had nothing else on so joined her.

Once we arrived at the casino she went straight for the blackjack table and within 15 min she had dropped $5k.

I was worried she was going to ask me for cash but she pulled out another wads if cash about $10k from her handbag and changed the whole lot over to chips. In the next hour it was up and down with wins and loses but she ended up leaving $5k up.

She ask me to join her back at her place, she lives in an apartment close to the city.

We grabbed a cab back to her place and she tells me on the way back that she at one stage early in her gambling life won $25k on the tables and a grand jackpot on the pokies which got her hooked and about a year later she lost that much money that she ended up working at a brothel in Pyrmont & Surry Hills to earn more money.

I Stopped seeing her but my mate who also was seeing her told me she left the industry during Covid and now she is back working doing private nuru massage/FS from an apartment around the city/surry hills area.

I guess once your hooked you'll always be hooked.

[frank.huang.ak]

Punting is a sure return; you pay your money you get sex ( the quality you will get is always a bit of a punt - but you will get something in return.
The lure of gambling is you will "get something for nothing". The reality is you will probably lose your money and get stress, anger, and disappointment in return.

So punting seems like the wiser decision.

If you are going to gamble treat it as an investment and not recreation - if you want recreation then spend your money on sex, dining out, the movies, night clubs etc.
Same basic rules when gambling:
1.Don't gamble for fun
2. Don't gamble when drunk
3. Don't gamble with friends
4. Avoid games of chance eg pokies, roulette - you will ALWAYS LOSE in the long run
5. Stick to games that involve skill - if you are good at poker or blackjack then you have a chance.
6. Stick to sports betting and :
- stick to sports you understand - do your research.
- stick to simple outcomes like win/lose/draw (that way you have a 1/2 or 1/3 chance)
- avoid exotics, multis, exact score etc or just put very small amounts on them
- don't be lured by "generous odds", back what you actually expect to win; bookies give generous odds because its almost certain it won't happen.
- don't try and make big money quickly, but rather just regular small winnings - treat it as a regular income stream rather than a windfall win
- as you start to make money increase the size of your bets but always on short odds or favourites (short odds are offfered for good reason) - NEVER bet big money on a long shot!

These tips are no guarantee - it's gambling after all.

The best advice is still probably the boring advice your mum gave you which is to put the money aside in the bank every week - it's slow and boring but its a guaranteed result.
Then spend your savings on hookers! - that's probably not your mum's advice, but hey, you gotta have fun!

Good advice!
Yes, definitely punting over gambling.

[OneandDone]

Outside of a nice meal with your partner and/or family punting over everything !!

What does a discretionary 200-300 spend get you these days ?

[Daffy]

There are only 2 types of Pokie players
1. Losers
2. Liars

The only winners from poker machines are the venue and the government taxing it

[CFH]

i go to the casino to win, or at least break even.

[Daffy]

There are people who are lucky and win large jackpots. However, the poker machines don't pay like they use to in the past. Probably the casino has made them less likely to pay out given that they had to pay a huge fine (millions of dollars) for allowing criminals to money launder through their casino.

I can tell you this is absolutely false. The pay out rates are so heavily regulated by law it isn’t funny. And what might surprise you there is a maximum and minimum values they are allowed to pay out. This is because it it turnover that is important here, and venues perceived to pay out more wins get more turnover. They pay out at least 85% of all money that goes into them and still make millions in revenue.

I’ve worked in this industry for almost 20 years now and it’s insane seeing the amount of money that goes through those machines.

[pocket rocket]

Punting, no question.

I'm a world class tight-arse with almost everything except punting ... so I can't gamble, if I know I might not be getting anything in return.

Rather spend money on a Shit Box punt (which I have done many, many, many times), than straight out gamble ... don't know why