533 never again

[fairmont]

I have had a couple of not so good sessions at 533 and one were they swapped a girl on me but i had a 6.30am site meeting in the city and then had the rest of the day free so decided what the hell one more chance. Meeting finished at 8.45am so rang Angie and booked Michelle for one hour at 10 am.

Got to 533 at 10 on the dot and Angie showed me to a waiting room and said Michelle not here yet, no problems i will wait i have the whole day, so i turned on the TV and flicked through the channels (porn was on but i am not into porn). Any way with no rush from me i waited and waited and waited until Angie came back to me at 10.50am and said i am not sure were Michelle is, would you like to meet Sakura, i said no how much longer will Michelle be, Angie said not sure you meet Sakura and if no like no stay with her so i thought ok Angie is being a bit pushy i will meet Sakura.

So i went to the front room passing another 2 punters who were waiting in the hall way and met Sakura we had a quick chat and i decided no so as i came out of the room i noticed that the waiting room i was in, the door was shut, Angie was at the other end of the hallway and asked if i would stay with sakura i said no but i will wait another 10 mins for Michelle.

Angie then raised her voice and in a very rude way said to me you no wait you stay with Sakura or you go. I do not like at the best of times when someone is rude to me with no good reason and started to walk towards Angie and about to open my mouth but bit me tongue as there were 2 other punters waiting in the hallway and i did not want to make a scene so i left. I understand she has a business to run but i did wait for 50 mins and there is no need to be rude.

Never again will i set foot into 533 Willoughby Road, Willoughby. NEVER

[Sextus]

I think she must have needed the waiting room for punters for girls that are there already or likely to show up. Probably Angie had no idea when Michelle was going to arrive, and you were taking up valuable real estate that is meant for paying customers.

It would not be an easy job being a mamasan. You have to be an empathic psychologist as a well as a humanitarian, and try to keep a level head the whole 10 or 12 hour day.

You are definitely patient though, which is a virtue. There are some absolutely fantastic girls at 533, it is a great shop, and as you do have the virtue of patience, it would be a shame that you should impose a restriction on yourself that means you forever miss out on them.

[hoshimoony]

I hear good things about the 533 girls and I probably should give it a go one day especially seeing how conveniently located it is for me, but these negative experiences on the front end are the one thing that constantly stops me. Angie or whoever else is the shop's representative on this forum, I know your shop is busy regardless but I think you should do something to address these issues better. It does scare people like me from making an effort to go visit, and god knows how many others are out there on the same boat.

[asiafever]

I've been here only a couple of times in recent past.
The first time I was told only 1 girl available despite seeing a few sitting in the girls' room looking bored. The girl she offered up was fine so didn't kick up a stink, and had a decent session without really seeing what the fuss was about. The second time I rang from downstairs, was told three available right now, went upstairs 20 seconds later, was introduced to three girls (after almost kicking the rather pushy first one out to try and see the line-up rather than take first available) only for Angie to walk in after other two, one of whom also was refusing to leave the room until I picked her, to tell me I could only pick the first one, as the other two had 'bookings'. On top of that the girl who I took wouldn't allow me to have sex, just want to give me bj's to finish. So I too have decided there are many other fish in the sea for me to try.

[Sextus]

It might be better to book ahead based on reviews, sounds like a casual walk in can be tricky...

[Punter Poontang]

It might be better to book ahead based on reviews, sounds like a casual walk in can be tricky...

But what's the point when bookings aren't always respected??

+1 to the Hosh's post above. Every time I've been tempted by the positive reports, there's a story like this that turns me away. As a new customer, I fear being treated like the OP, and time's far too valuable to waste with shit like that.

[Sextus]

time's far too valuable to waste with shit like that.

Seems Angie was worried, just like you, about time. In that sense you are in agreement with her. Fairmont was eternally patient to wait, but he was taking up valuable real estate needed for other punters - waiting for a girl that Angie seems knew wasn't going to show up (anytime) soon.

[MaxPunter]

But what's the point when bookings aren't always respected??

+1 to the Hosh's post above. Every time I've been tempted by the positive reports, there's a story like this that turns me away. As a new customer, I fear being treated like the OP, and time's far too valuable to waste with shit like that.

Never had any issues at 533; i always book ahead and all my bookings have been honoured

Angie is a masaman that runs a very busy shop; if you are a regular of course you get a better treatment; if you aren't and there are other customers waiting i understand she can get pushy.

If i may suggest, book Cobe or Ada or Vanessa for 1 hour and make your own judgement

[PhoBot]

Since being a regular, I've only had one problem and Angie wasn't on. As for a WL not showing up for a 10am appointment, I really don't think it's fair to ping the shop over that. The girls aren't locked in cages out the back. After all, she's a prossie, and a lot of them lead pretty active night lives, she was probably out till very late and slept in, or even sick. Bank managers are late for work too sometimes :)

[Oneonone]

I think that if Michelle didn't come in or was late that makes it difficult for everyone both punter and Angie the mamansan. The mamasan would have been busy trying to contact Michelle to find out what time she would be in and if she is not going to be in to find a replacement.

If the waiting rooms were full then it was busy and Angie would have been stressed. The girls only like to work at 533 because its busy and juggling the girls the punters and the rooms is a difficult job at the best of times.

As for other girls being available in the waiting room they could have been there cause their bookings were in the shower or if they had a booking at say 11Am and it was 10 to 11 or so then Angie would not send them in as they aren't available.

Believe me if A girl is sitting in the waiting room with nothing to do and you want to meet the girls you will get to meet them if they are fee.

Sorry you had a bad experience and yes Angie does get stressed under such circumstances, she is human and that's Angie.

There are a lot of really nice and good girls at 533 I have seen Sukura and she is a good punt not sure if she does anal though if that's why you like Michelle.

I cant see your point in sitting there if Michelle is not in and Angie cant tell you when she will be in its time to see someone else or leave! The choice is simple Angie can't pull her out of a hat!

[AHLUNGOR]

I just like to make one comment and I am not on any side!

I think the problem may be the timing, a 10am punt at a FS shop is always risky, unless the shop has a totally separate team of girls - some do morning and some do evening shift, otherwise, this kind of things is gonna happen. And I must stress that i have no idea how the roster works at 533. But if this WL Michelle would have worked the night before say until 2am in the morning, it would be fair to say that it's gonna be hard for her to show up at 10am the next morning !!

But the OP did say he made a booking for 10am, so I guess it's up to the shop who accepted the booking to make sure that the WL is gonna be there.

I love to have a 10am massage session too, first of the day !! but that's a different story but believe me, there had been time when Sophie didn't show up at 10am too..............lol

Cheers

[Oneonone]

I just like to make one comment and I am not on any side!

I think the problem may be the timing, a 10am punt at a FS shop is always risky, unless the shop has a totally separate team of girls - some do morning and some do evening shift, otherwise, this kind of things is gonna happen. And I must stress that i have no idea how the roster works at 533. But if this WL Michelle would have worked the night before say until 2am in the morning, it would be fair to say that it's gonna be hard for her to show up at 10am the next morning !!

But the OP did say he made a booking for 10am, so I guess it's up to the shop who accepted the booking to make sure that the WL is gonna be there.

I love to have a 10am massage session too, first of the day !! but that's a different story but believe me, there had been time when Sophie didn't show up at 10am too..............lol

Cheers

Its very rare that Angie lets a girl work two days straight, can happen if the day before a girl cancels for the next day and she may ask a girl could she work tomorrow. As for making sure the girl is going to be there Angie does go to a lot of trouble to ensure the girls are there with out going into details. But its a business and the girls work for themselves Angie can only do so much.

What about you or any other punter out there how does your boss make sure you turn up every day and on time? Some girls cut every thing fine and only allow just enough time to get to work and don't rush to call if they are not coming in. Its like any job some girls are reliable and never miss a day and are never late some are unreliable and always late the latter don't usually last long at 533 Angie has put off some good girls that haven't been reliable.

As for Michelle she has been there a long time and from the best of my knowledge is usually reliable.

[IExperiment]

Simple thats the way it is, after all its a brothel right :)
The house dont wanted to loose the client and trying to find out how long the girl will be but maybe the girl not picking up the phone or who knows this is after all a WL, I mean I have the same situation many times and some WL are unreliable as it might not be their choice of work. I am sure it would be different if they were coming in to work as a doctor :) they will try to never miss a shift so best to take it as it comes as this will always happen.

Yes our time are very important but thats the way it is if wanted to make sure they honor your booking 100% look for a girl who charge $1000 I am sure she wont miss her shift :)

I had this before and like I say I just take it as it come. Some of Mine was even $350P/H or more so the girls need more incentive maybe $2000 they will turn up just human nature I guess.

[able]

aaa....that explains the phone conversation I had with Angie this morning

[Oneonone]

Fairmont Angie has asked me to apologise to your for her she said that Michelle did not let her know that she would not be in till after 9:30 today Angie then tried to get another girl in and told you Michelle would not be in, she tried to fit you in with another girl but you wanted to wait in the end she suggested that if you didn't want to see the girl she had made available that you leave.

Angie has told me to let customers know that in future she will not be taking any bookings for Michelle if you want to see Michelle then you have to take pot luck. Angie is very upset about todays events as I suggested above it was a stress full experience for her as well as punter Fairmont and hopefully not too stress full for other punters and the other girls.

[Sextus]

Angie is very upset about todays events as I suggested above it was a stress full experience for her as well as punter Fairmont and hopefully not too stress full for other punters and the other girls.

Don't be upset Angie! :prettiness: I think most punters would understand how this girl could come in late and that you were doing your best to help Fairmont with Sakura.

I'm a night person myself, night is much more fun - I don't even get out of bed before 10am, let alone wanting to punt then! I'm sure many wl's feel the same.

Maybe you should start opening at the more civilised time of 11am?

[IExperiment]

Don't be upset Angie! :prettiness: I think most punters would understand how this girl could come in late and that you were doing your best to help Fairmont with Sakura.

I'm a night person myself, night is much more fun - I don't even get out of bed before 10am, let alone wanting to punt then! I'm sure many wl's feel the same.

Maybe you should start opening at the more civilised time of 11am?

Sextus they should have day and night shift if the shop is super busy :) cause some night person work till late and work so hard they wont have enough time to rest and get ready by 11am :)

[Oneonone]

Sextus they should have day and night shift if the shop is super busy :) cause some night person work till late and work so hard they wont have enough time to rest and get ready by 11am :)

What you say has merit except that the girls would not work there for the shorter hours they want to work and make a certain amount of money for a shift its a catch 22 situation if we want the lower prices and the service we get from the $150 shops then part of the trade off from a punter is the sort of thing that happened today.

[IExperiment]

What you say has merit except that the girls would not work there for the shorter hours they want to work and make a certain amount of money for a shift its a catch 22 situation if we want the lower prices and the service we get from the $150 shops then part of the trade off from a punter is the sort of thing that happened today.

Well its up to management to work it out but it looks like it fail Fairmont :) or that morning management should have told OP sorry I think she wont make it cause she work last night bla/bla/bla or you wait at your own peril cause I cant guarrantee she turn up but we all know money is always the issue here you know what I mean this is the reason I say again its a brothel take it as a grain of salt :) Your not going to get an opreration and I am sure the doctor will turn up unless he had some emergency and yes we can't differentiate between the two profession :)

So the OP just needed reassurance by the management and I am sure the OP would feel better but hey I am not a shrink :)
The OP just annoy cause he was a tad in the dark and in his mind he was being played :) I am sure on his mind he also though that the other two guys might be seeing the Michelle :) weird hey even if she was not there :) just as punters have our own stupid devil inside us not to trust the shop if they are not regular of the shop.

[Punter Poontang]

Seems Angie was worried, just like you, about time. In that sense you are in agreement with her. Fairmont was eternally patient to wait, but he was taking up valuable real estate needed for other punters - waiting for a girl that Angie seems knew wasn't going to show up (anytime) soon.

That mentality would be worse imo, considering there was a booking not honoured that caused it .... anyways, we weren't there so it's not right for us to speculate about exactly what happened.

Am genuinely interested to see Fairmont's response to Oneonone's post though.

[Sextus]

anyways, we weren't there so it's not right for us to speculate about exactly what happened.

Speculation is fun to do at least! But I think Angie made the booking in all good faith and then tried to look after Fairmont as best she could when a third party (ie, Michelle) was late that day. The booking wasn't "dishonoured" in the least, the booking was a casualty of circumstance.

[asiafever]

Remember this is the same punter who booked one girl last time at 533 and was given another that management told to pretend was the girl booked, so I would suggest with that in mind Fairmont felt he was being taken for a fool, which nobody likes. I think when the two scenarios are added together that is why he's declared it out of bounds.

[the wizard]

Speculation is fun to do at least! But I think Angie made the booking in all good faith and then tried to look after Fairmont as best she could when a third party (ie, Michelle) was late that day. The booking wasn't "dishonoured" in the least, the booking was a casualty of circumstance.

True, though I can see both sides, Angie raising her voice and giving Fairmont what seems to be a ultimatum is not good customer service.
Fairmont still insisting to wait, may have been a disruption as she was possibly trying to manage other clients and girls at the same time.

The issue could also have been exasperated by maybe language/cultural differences-
Past History as asiafever states wouldn't have helped either...

[Sextus]

Remember this is the same punter who booked one girl last time at 533 and was given another that management told to pretend was the girl booked,

He he....I'd forgotten about that! Well, Bluemoon was recently offering "mystery girls." Looks like they stole the marketing idea from 533! :shout:

[asiafever]

Mystery girls was an experience offered at bodyrotic too. You were blindfolded and never allowed to see, only feel, smell, taste.. it was extremely arousing... removing one sense heightens the others!

[CunningLinguist]

I am sure it would be different if they were coming in to work as a doctor :) they will try to never miss a shift so best to take it as it comes as this will always happen.

I have had more Doctors running late for appointments than WLs or MLs!!!
I think WLs/MLs are much more reliable than Doctors, and they can always fix your problem too!

[CunningLinguist]

Fairmont Angie has asked me to apologise to your for her she said that Michelle did not let her know that she would not be in till after 9:30 today Angie then tried to get another girl in and told you Michelle would not be in, she tried to fit you in with another girl but you wanted to wait in the end she suggested that if you didn't want to see the girl she had made available that you leave.

Angie has told me to let customers know that in future she will not be taking any bookings for Michelle if you want to see Michelle then you have to take pot luck. Angie is very upset about todays events as I suggested above it was a stress full experience for her as well as punter Fairmont and hopefully not too stress full for other punters and the other girls.

That's good to hear!
I find Angie is good mostly but sometimes a bit sharp.
Sometimes she can be a bit pushy about taking a girl if you drop in, you have to ask to see who is available, otherwise she will choose for you.

[Oneonone]

That's good to hear!
I find Angie is good mostly but sometimes a bit sharp.
Sometimes she can be a bit pushy about taking a girl if you drop in, you have to ask to see who is available, otherwise she will choose for you.

I have to agree with you and she is worse when she is stressed, but she works hard and tries to please both the girls and the customers just occasionally she gets it wrong.

[CunningLinguist]

Mystery girls was an experience offered at bodyrotic too. You were blindfolded and never allowed to see, only feel, smell, taste.. it was extremely arousing... removing one sense heightens the others!

It's a great way to get the less desirable girls working ... :)

[IExperiment]

I have had more Doctors running late for appointments than WLs or MLs!!!
I think WLs/MLs are much more reliable than Doctors, and they can always fix your problem too!

So in genaral term your saying most ML/WL are more professional than most doctors :) in some part I would agree with you, specially in looking after me I would choose a WL/ML anytime :)

[CunningLinguist]

So in genaral term your saying most ML/WL are more professional than most doctors :) in some part I would agree with you, specially in looking after me I would choose a WL/ML anytime :)

Yes!
I can't remember the last time I had to wait for a ML/WL.
BUT every FUCKING time I have an appointment with a goddam Doctor I have to fucking wait !!!!!@#$#$$%&^!!!!!

[igloo]

One on one, that's a great apology, I'm sure bro fairmo is well satisfied.

The only thing he may ask is that if Angie knew at 9:30 or so that Michelle would not be in, then why didn't she apologize when bro fairmo walked in, maybe let him know there would be someone available in 50 minutes.... Why let him wait the best part of an hour.
I do not buy the communication mix up, if she had said Michelle is not coming in today, and assuming bro fairmo is not an escaped mental patient, I can't see the circumstance where he would say "well if she's not coming in, ill wait for her".. Ok maybe fawlty towers...

[HookedonHookerz]

I find that the main point we are all missing is the fact the mamasan was RUDE to the customer. In any line of business when they are at fault, first and foremost an apology right? Explain the situation to your customer. Our girl cannot be contacted, it is most likely we cannot honor our appointment.

If that was address to fairmont I'm sure he would understand or at least have his return business. Do we not agree? It's the lies that we get and unfair treatments that will leave a permanent foul taste in our mouth.

Feel for you Fairmont, we have all experienced this from one brothel or another. Luckily there are so many shops out there that want our return business.

[fairmont]

Fairmont Angie has asked me to apologise to your for her she said that Michelle did not let her know that she would not be in till after 9:30 today Angie then tried to get another girl in and told you Michelle would not be in, she tried to fit you in with another girl but you wanted to wait in the end she suggested that if you didn't want to see the girl she had made available that you leave.

Angie has told me to let customers know that in future she will not be taking any bookings for Michelle if you want to see Michelle then you have to take pot luck. Angie is veryso upset about todays events as I suggested above it was a stress full experience for her as well as punter Fairmont and hopefully not too stress full for other punters and the other girls.

Thanks Oneonone, there has been a lot of responses to my post which I did not except, i just wanted to share my experience at 533. Not sure i should have put this post up as I was a little pissed off when I did it, maybe I will wait a day before putting a negative post up about a shop so i can see things more clearly I suppose as it is only my bad experience at 533 and there are a lot of good reviews that's why I went back. I know you tried yesterday Angie but you were rude to me and you did it in front of other people for no good reason, you should have just talked to me in a room without raising your voice, that would have been a better approach.

As far as not taking bookings for Michelle, you may lose clients this way as punters will drive a fair way to see a good W/L, I do some times. Maybe only take bookings once Michelle has arrived for work.

Anyway I am past it time to move on. I may come back to 533 one day but not in the near future.

[Misfit44]

Patience and understanding from punters is important.

I have to say I am a regular customer and this shit happens to me all the time at 533 and other places.

I don't fight and bitch about it if the girl is late or no show.
Just pick who is available or walk out.
I normally like the 10am session because I want to do the damage before everyone.

There are times I hear Angie arguing with dickheads complaining about 5minutes lost or trying to squeeze extra 10 minutes FOC and the WL is booked 3 guys in advance.
This place is normally busy so make a booking.
There are reviews on nearly every WL.

Hey shit happens and it is hard to re-juggle if a WL is sick or MIA.

The good girls don't need to warm up for the next customer because they still hot from the last guy.

Great girls - all of them!

[Luvvaboy]

Always been good for me at the 533.

[player]

Shop keeper is nothing but a bitch, give bad attitude when she sees a walk out. That's her "business" attitude.

[Mr. Who]

I find that the main point we are all missing is the fact the mamasan was RUDE to the customer. In any line of business when they are at fault, first and foremost an apology right? Explain the situation to your customer. Our girl cannot be contacted, it is most likely we cannot honor our appointment.

If that was address to fairmont I'm sure he would understand or at least have his return business. Do we not agree? It's the lies that we get and unfair treatments that will leave a permanent foul taste in our mouth.

Feel for you Fairmont, we have all experienced this from one brothel or another. Luckily there are so many shops out there that want our return business.

Agreed. It is in fact quite understandable when you fail to honor a booking because of the failure to contact the girl. I think most bros will understand that, as long as it does not happen on a regular frequency.

What I find particularly annoying in this case, is the attitude. Yelling to someone, in front of someone else, shows a serious lack of respect. And "the job is stressful" is really not a valid excuse, once you realize that many other bros have been having the same issue with this lady.

[carmen farquis]

I use to go here quiet a bit and most times I would have been out the door before my time was up. Then last time the girl didn't know what time we started so we went overtime.

There was no knock on the door or anything and angie came in saying I had to pay for an extra half hour.

I think we were only 10 minutes over because the girl kept on saying to me we still have 20 minutes left.

The worse part was I wanted to leave with about 30 minutes left because I had an important phone call

[Utamaro]

Looks like at 533, you are treated very well if you are a regular but you will get a hit and miss service if you are not a regular.... this happens to any other places like restaurants and bars but at 533, the gap is well, pretty big.

I used to go there because they are reasonably priced and most girls are offering very good service (some of my best punts have happened here).

However, I had similar incidents - had to wait more than 30mins, a girl I made an appointment were suddenly became unavailable... it's getting quite frustrating (and I have to travel fair bit to reach there) so I stop going there anymore - there are many similar/better places with better customer service in my area.

I wasn't a frequent customer anyway so it won't be a big damage for them but in a long run it may affect their business...

[action_hunter]

I have found not much different to other places. I would say now a regular here. However I have never had a bad punt here. All the girls I have seen here have provided a great service, and what other places class as extras are included.
What you have experienced can happen anywhere, at the end of the day the mamason is human, who knows maybe an angry or abusive customer before you. We all have out off days.
Sometimes you have to wait, I.e one of my regulars takes a while to get ready between bookings and takes a long shower so be it, she a fantastic girl when a great Attitude and service is second to none. May have to do review on her for you bros.

[devilangel]

Well, I've certainly seen Angie use that tone towards myself and a friend who tagged along. Looks like we're not the only ones.

This shop has been on my blacklist after a few unpleasant experienced which all had to do with Angie and that short sighted business etiquette of hers. If you've been there a few times, you'll notice how she plays people around by moving them into different rooms and told them to wait for their bookings when in fact she's actually showing the girl you booked to other customers, counting on the fact that people don't mind waiting for 30mins for their bookings.

She once tried to shove us the girl someone else had booked, as there were two of us and only 1 girl available. Her problem is that she went ahead and told the poor bloke that his booking was not avaiable for another 30mins and he walked out pretty angry.

She then showed us the girls but We didn't like what we saw and walked out.

"Don't come back again" she yells as we walked down the stairs.

She ended up losing the booking and two customers that will never return.

[CunningLinguist]

I think you can sum up Angies attitude as follows: It is really obvious she is trying to maximise her profits.
Perhaps some more far sighted business practices would be a better way to achieve this ...

[romantic69]

along time ago, I did a walk-in at this shop hoping for a release but the 2 wls which were free at the time weren't my type. One of them was quite pushy and eager to get me to "try, half hour". Luckily I didn't cave.
In the end I left and saved my money for a punt somewhere else. I feel lucky I wasn't yelled at.
Anyhow, I don't think I would try this shop again anytime soon.

[CunningLinguist]

I really hate it when you drop in to a shop and see the girls and the first one says she is the only one available, or she is really pushy to try to get you to take her.

[romantic69]

I really hate it when you drop in to a shop and see the girls and the first one says she is the only one available, or she is really pushy to try to get you to take her.

agree.
Luckily I don't cave easily and make sure my hard earned money is use properly. =)

[5428]

Angie came back to me at 10.50am and said i am not sure were Michelle is, would you like to meet Sakura, i said no how much longer will Michelle be, Angie said not sure you meet Sakura and if no like no stay with her so i thought ok Angie is being a bit pushy i will meet Sakura.


Angie then raised her voice and in a very rude way said to me you no wait you stay with Sakura or you go. I do not like at the best of times when someone is rude to me with no good reason and started to walk towards Angie and about to open my mouth but bit me tongue as there were 2 other punters waiting in the hallway and i did not want to make a scene so i left. I understand she has a business to run but i did wait for 50 mins and there is no need to be rude.

Never again will i set foot into 533 Willoughby Road, Willoughby. NEVER


As my walk in experiences, Angie always pushes me to see that old fake Japeness Sakura who has ugly boobies. So I never walk in on Mondays, now!

Using any rude manner to treat any punters is totally unacceptable. Booked or pop-in punters should be served as same by all staffs and wls in all shops.

[don_corleone]

I was once there waiting in one of the rooms. A guy came in with a booking but was told the girl was having a period and was in toilet. I find that hard to believe.

[Oneonone]

I was there that day and the girl may not have been having her periods but Angie did the guy a favor as the girl had been up all night out on the town and was in no condition to work. Angie sent her home.

[CunningLinguist]

I was there that day and the girl may not have been having her periods but Angie did the guy a favor as the girl had been up all night out on the town and was in no condition to work. Angie sent her home.

Maybe so, if she would have been more honest about the reason then Don_Corleone may have believed her more and would be more likely to return ...

[tiny dancer]

Last time I posted a complaint about the attitude of the mamasan in this joint, 533 posted as a customer claiming I was asking for bare back sex from their WLs in retaliation and to discredit my claims, total BS. How low can one sink?

No way im taking money to this establishment under the current management.

[jbrowz]

I was once there waiting in one of the rooms. A guy came in with a booking but was told the girl was having a period and was in toilet. I find that hard to believe.

This has happened to a few times @ 533 - it really sucks when you travel over 45 minutes for an appointment only to be told she's not available. Happened a few times here. Don't think I'll be going back - There are plenty of other establishments

[Punter Poontang]

Just read that entire thread that tiny dancer was referring to, have to say I just about spit my coffee out in a fit of laughter reading the last post ..... really doesn't sound like anything's changed in the last 13 months .....

[asiafever]

A trend is developing one would think. Many is the time I've thought about burying the hatchet and going back to give it one more shot, but then I read the complaints from others, and realise I am far better off elsewhere..

[CunningLinguist]

533 has their place, if you don't mind milfs then the prices are affordable, also some girls do anal.
The mamasan is obviously into the middle kingdom thing, what a noble job she is doing ...

[hoshimoony]

Last time I posted a complaint about the attitude of the mamasan in this joint, 533 posted as a customer claiming I was asking for bare back sex from their WLs in retaliation and to discredit my claims, total BS. How low can one sink?

No way im taking money to this establishment under the current management.

Oh yeah I remember that thread... reading it actually crossed 533 off my list when I was trying to choose between 5 star, Ginza and 533. I'm really glad you posted it - even though I don't know what 533 is like from first hand experience, I know I never get treated like that at Ginza. I acknowledge that the girls there could be amazing seeing how popular they are and from the rave reviews (I have been tempted by quite a few...), but I hope that the management sees that they are losing out on potential long time regulars through how they treat some of them. I just don't want to go there half-expecting to be treated like shit from Angie.

[jellyshots]

Yeah, even though I was in the area, I avoided 533 because of what I'd read on the forum and gone to other places instead. Ginza made it super competitive and I think Kyoto's headed to be extremely competitive too.

[Oneonone]

I have to agree that its not acceptable for the customers to be treated they way they are sometimes by Angie. I have been a regular at 533 for a long time actually since Angie took over, I used to go to a shop that she ran before it closed down and she moved to 533. The other shop was only 2 rooms and only two girls so much easier to manage.

I have been telling Angie for as long as I have been going to 533 that she has to keep her cool and the customer is always right but unfortunately she does not always take this on board, I in fact left 533 for about 12 months because of how she treated me and I am and was a regular. I went back because I still kept seeing one of my favourites that worked there, I saw her at another shop, and she kept telling me I should forgive Angie and she kept giving me messages from Angie so I thought why not try it again. For me an older punter she has really good girls with great service and I can accept that some of you younger punters want younger girls.

Any way since I returned to 533 Angie has looked after me.

I have recently tried a few different shops on being Kyoto and I have to admit I liked Isis there but had a forgettable experience with a younger girl and so am reluctant to return and try other young girls.

The point is we are punters and its our money and we have the option of spending it where we like, for me at the moment the girls at 533 offer excellent service and at the end of the day we go for the girls not the mamasan, having said that if a mamasan or papasan gives me a bad time or doesn't look after me then I wont usually go back to that establishment.

So yes it is important for the Mamasan or Papasan to look after all customers even if they elect to leave without seeing a girl and a bit of honesty is always helpful, lets face it most of us know the girls are only human and can let the shop down so be honest about it and most of us will forgive and move on. Non of us like to be treated like a mushroom.

[Sextus]

most of us know the girls are only human so be honest about it and most of us will forgive and move on.

That phrase comes up so often in this forum about this most human of activities, so here is a little musical interlude. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1ysoohV_zA

[lonely heart]

Angie @ 533 and Sophie @ TP are work of art of Sydney adult industry. They don't like you picking and they don't like you walking out. I guess they have enough non picky customers to keep their business running and just don't care about other punters.

[Oneonone]

Angie @ 533 and Sophie @ TP are work of art of Sydney adult industry. They don't like you picking and they don't like you walking out. I guess they have enough non picky customers to keep their business running and just don't care about other punters.

I have to agree with you here bro except for one thing I don't think its that they don't care about other punters I think its more that they are control freaks and so need to be in control of the girls, the punters etc etc So if you walk or don't see the girl the put forward for you they tend to take it as an offence or insult to them.

Not right in know but that's my 2 cents worth.

[lonewolf77]

Remember this is the same punter who booked one girl last time at 533 and was given another that management told to pretend was the girl booked, so I would suggest with that in mind Fairmont felt he was being taken for a fool, which nobody likes. I think when the two scenarios are added together that is why he's declared it out of bounds.


This same thing happened to me as well, I booked one girl for a specific time slot. Got there and i was waiting around for more than 40 mins PAST my booking timeslot. Then eventually the girl was shown to me, and she kept saying the girl's name instead of letting the girl introduce me. She had also kept asking me previously if i have been here before etc. Eventually half way through the session i discovered i was not with the girl i had booked which explained why she looked different from the photos and did not provide the services i was after. I felt downright cheated and have not been back since.

[asiafever]

This same thing happened to me as well, I booked one girl for a specific time slot. Got there and i was waiting around for more than 40 mins PAST my booking timeslot. Then eventually the girl was shown to me, and she kept saying the girl's name instead of letting the girl introduce me. She had also kept asking me previously if i have been here before etc. Eventually half way through the session i discovered i was not with the girl i had booked which explained why she looked different from the photos and did not provide the services i was after. I felt downright cheated and have not been back since.

I remember that. It's really not good practice. As an owner of a service oriented business I could not imagine treating my customers so poorly.

[Oneonone]

Some times I think we take it all too seriously at the end of the day we go to see the girls not the mamasan!

[asiafever]

Some times I think we take it all too seriously at the end of the day we go to see the girls not the mamasan!

True, but then again you go to a restaurant for the food, not the waiters, a gym for the equipment or trainer not the reception, etc, and yet these things DO play a part, a major part, in our decisions. 533 is not the only shop, and when parting with our hard earned money (On average working on average salaries etc guys need to work a full day or more after tax to pay for that one hour.) want to feel like that fact is understood, so an owner who respects this fact goes a long way to ensuring return clientele. I make sure all my clients KNOW I understand they pay good money for the services they receive. My standard line is "While the client is not always right, they are ALWAYS first and foremost in my considerations.". When I have that discussion with them, they know that I work in their best interests. Always. Honestly, the attitude you've mentioned has got many businesses in to big trouble as eventually people find a similar service elsewhere where they feel appreciated, and often times people are willing to pay extra for that feeling.

[CunningLinguist]

Some times I think we take it all too seriously at the end of the day we go to see the girls not the mamasan!

But if the Mamasan gives you the wrong girl that is very serious.
If I am going to spend my hard earned I take the following seriously:
- keep the appointment time
- get the right girl
- advertised services being available

Now I can be flexible to a point, but beyond which I think it is very bad practice.

I can put up with a rude mamasan but if I can get the same value somewhere else I won't put up with a rude mamasan.

[pro_seeker]

I won't add much to this already discussed to death subject except to say that I gave it one more chance about a month ago and I will NEVER EVER go back there. *shudder*

[Mr. Who]

This same thing happened to me as well, I booked one girl for a specific time slot. Got there and i was waiting around for more than 40 mins PAST my booking timeslot. Then eventually the girl was shown to me, and she kept saying the girl's name instead of letting the girl introduce me. She had also kept asking me previously if i have been here before etc. Eventually half way through the session i discovered i was not with the girl i had booked which explained why she looked different from the photos and did not provide the services i was after. I felt downright cheated and have not been back since.

Wow Angie, you are trully an amazing lady.

[Oneonone]

True, but the girl never showed up, that's when things got a little heated.

Yes but the girl not showing up is something that is difficult for the shop to handle, and don't forget there are times punters who have made a booking don't show up either again that's life and something that just has to be forgotten and move on.

[fairmont]

Yes but the girl not showing up is something that is difficult for the shop to handle, and don't forget there are times punters who have made a booking don't show up either again that's life and something that just has to be forgotten and move on.

Agreed, I do not blame the girl for not showing up or the shop, it was the way I was treated and talked to that annoyed me.

[Oneonone]

Agreed, I do not blame the girl for not showing up or the shop, it was the way I was treated and talked to that annoyed me.

Have to agree with you we all should be treated with respect and spoken to in an appropriate manner, I might be ignorant but I thought it was just the Asian way when the get excited or annoyed they tend to shout and raise their voices. I have seen Asian girls speak to each other like that and think what the heck but in the end the just laugh and move on, must admit I don't have a clue what is being said but the tone is enough to put me off. So is it intentional to be rude or just the Asian way, probably a bit of both I think and yes some times it is straight out rude and uncalled for.

[wilisno]

Have to agree with you we all should be treated with respect and spoken to in an appropriate manner, I might be ignorant but I thought it was just the Asian way when the get excited or annoyed they tend to shout and raise their voices. I have seen Asian girls speak to each other like that and think what the heck but in the end the just laugh and move on, must admit I don't have a clue what is being said but the tone is enough to put me off. So is it intentional to be rude or just the Asian way, probably a bit of both I think and yes some times it is straight out rude and uncalled for.
No, that's not the Asian way ! If the tone of voice is rude, then the conversation is rude, as simple as that !

[Mr. Who]

Have to agree with you we all should be treated with respect and spoken to in an appropriate manner, I might be ignorant but I thought it was just the Asian way when the get excited or annoyed they tend to shout and raise their voices. I have seen Asian girls speak to each other like that and think what the heck but in the end the just laugh and move on, must admit I don't have a clue what is being said but the tone is enough to put me off. So is it intentional to be rude or just the Asian way, probably a bit of both I think and yes some times it is straight out rude and uncalled for.

I think you have been trying too hard to defend for Angie. "Asian way", seriously???

[icecream]

You guys take it all too seriously.. I have been following the thread and laugh at all the carry on.. Just a punt and only money.. It's not a life or death situation.. It takes two to tango in situations like this.. One as a customer.. Another as a shop keeper.. How about a role reversal and you the shop keeper and another the customer and see how the situation changes.. Everyone seems to be the master of there own domain but when it comes to the crunch.. Who is willing to take the hit and shot.. Not many i believe.. I have been on the good and bad end on shops and shop keepers.. High end and low end.. It is a demanding business and I bet not many would put there money where there mouth is to open and operate one.. Hilarious this thread is!.. There are many types of people in this world and many different grains too.. Lol

[Oneonone]

You guys take it all too seriously.. I have been following the thread and laugh at all the carry on.. Just a punt and only money.. It's not a life or death situation.. It takes two to tango in situations like this.. One as a customer.. Another as a shop keeper.. How about a role reversal and you the shop keeper and another the customer and see how the situation changes.. Everyone seems to be the master of there own domain but when it comes to the crunch.. Who is willing to take the hit and shot.. Not many i believe.. I have been on the good and bad end on shops and shop keepers.. High end and low end.. It is a demanding business and I bet not many would put there money where there mouth is to open and operate one.. Hilarious this thread is!.. There are many types of people in this world and many different grains too.. Lol

Very nicely summed up Icecream

[argusplayer]

I don't know what all the fuss is about. It's very simple. There is no excuse for rudeness. I treat people with respect and expect to be treated the same way....... I don't care where they come from or who they are. When I have been treated in a rude manner at a shop, I don't get angry, I simply say to them that they have just lost a customer and that I would never recommend them and I never go back. End of story. smile:

[CunningLinguist]

You guys take it all too seriously.. I have been following the thread and laugh at all the carry on.. Just a punt and only money.. It's not a life or death situation.. It takes two to tango in situations like this.. One as a customer.. Another as a shop keeper.. How about a role reversal and you the shop keeper and another the customer and see how the situation changes.. Everyone seems to be the master of there own domain but when it comes to the crunch.. Who is willing to take the hit and shot.. Not many i believe.. I have been on the good and bad end on shops and shop keepers.. High end and low end.. It is a demanding business and I bet not many would put there money where there mouth is to open and operate one.. Hilarious this thread is!.. There are many types of people in this world and many different grains too.. Lol

At the end of the day the punters decide where they will spend their money, so if the mamasan is putting themd off due to rudeness that is a factor to consider. All else being equal it is just as easy to go somewhere else. To be constructive maybe someone shoul suggest to her to control her temper a bit more as it would be good for business...
Or better still read this thread.

[Boney]

Ha 3 pages, Me thinks, Much ado about nothing.

A first world problem (kerfuffle)

[CunningLinguist]

You guys take it all too seriously.. I have been following the thread and laugh at all the carry on.. Just a punt and only money.. It's not a life or death situation.. It takes two to tango in situations like this.. One as a customer.. Another as a shop keeper.. How about a role reversal and you the shop keeper and another the customer and see how the situation changes.. Everyone seems to be the master of there own domain but when it comes to the crunch.. Who is willing to take the hit and shot.. Not many i believe.. I have been on the good and bad end on shops and shop keepers.. High end and low end.. It is a demanding business and I bet not many would put there money where there mouth is to open and operate one.. Hilarious this thread is!.. There are many types of people in this world and many different grains too.. Lol

Also I don't think anyone is taking it soo serious that they are going to sue the place!
People are just talking about if they would go back or not.

[icecream]

*yawn* *yawn*..

Same topic will come up in 6 months time..