Lemon - not a lemon

[pro_seeker]

Booked Lemon based on her description of being tiny. She certainly was a tiny little angel barely reaching my chest. She had a sexy little body but not really my type, built a little too "solid" I guess.. taking nothing away from her - she is FAR from fat or anything. Everybody has different taste and I just prefer more of a super lithe, super skinny type.

Anyway, we started off in the shower together with Lemon soaping me up in all the right places. She paid particular attention to the old fella and I had to stop her because I hadn't cum in a few days and I wasn't going to last too long! Back to bed and after a particularly ferocious DFK session, she started BBBJ. When I straddled her face and started fucking her mouth, she stopped me halfway and told me $20 for CIM. I wasn't interested in it anyway so I said I'd hold off for her famously tight pussy.

So she doms me up and mounts me.. and wow! All the ARs about her is right on the money! She really is one of the tightest girls I've ever fucked and I didn't stand a chance of lasting very long.

After bit of a cuddle, we tried for round 2 but even after some very enthusiastic BBBJ, I just didn't have it in me for a Round 2 in a 45min session.

OK now, if this reads like a very standard AR, it's because it was a very standard session with Lemon. I just felt that we didn't develop that much of a connection. Now, don't let it stop you from booking a session with her because she really is adorable, it was more to do with me than her. I guess I was wanting a PSE experience while she is much more of GFE girl. This is purely a personal thing that's developed recently and from now on, I'll leave the cute, sweet, friendly, GFE girls like Lemon to the rest you punters :)

P.S. With my recent strong preference for PSE girls, I am becoming more and more interested in all the gang-bangs being organised on this forum! One day I shall grow the balls to come along to one...

[Crank]

....

When I straddled her face and started fucking her mouth, she stopped me halfway and told me $20 for CIM. I wasn't interested in it anyway so I said I'd hold off for her famously tight pussy.

...

Is this the famous Ginza's service?
Being stopped in the middle of BBBJ asking the $20 extra for CIM is quite a mood killer

These agreements should be stipulated upfront, or at least the included services should be clearly presented to the customer
It would be even better if the included service are in the roster, so a punter can make an informed choice

It sounds "curious" that this happened after a Ginza's AR (Aki) was posted few days ago suggesting some services should be paid as extra....:surprise:
Hope this forum is not used to test the willingness of punters to pay more, pay extra, pay, pay, pay, pay and only pay

When you book a girl in Moc, Bluemoon, 5*, ... you know exactly what to expect and which services are included; agreed these agencies are in a different price bracket but now this difference is becoming less and less significant since a top girl in Ginza costs $280 per 60min vs $300-350 from the agencies mentioned above

I know i am going to attract all sort of attacks from Ginza's fans; i have nothing against Ginza, i have been there few times and i have been overall satisfied

[CunningLinguist]

As long as I can remember it has been standard to pay an extra $20 for CIM at Ginza.
For me the girl always mentions it afterwards, not during.
I agree it is a real mood killer to mention it before.
I think Ginza should put it on their website or have a sign on the door or something so people know.

[Punter Poontang]

It sounds "curious" that this happened after a Ginza's AR (Aki) was posted few days ago suggesting some services should be paid as extra....:surprise: Hope this forum is not used to test the willingness of punters to pay more, pay extra, pay, pay, pay, pay and only pay

Your tin foil hat is on too tight bro.

It's been covered a lot recently, including in that Aki thread. CIM is not a standard service, so if it's something you're after, best to ask about it before your cock is in the girls mouth. Simples.

I wouldn't begrudge a girl offering it either, so what if she stops for a few seconds??



As long as I can remember it has been standard to pay an extra $20 for CIM at Ginza.
For me the girl always mentions it afterwards, not during.
I agree it is a real mood killer to mention it before.
I think Ginza should put it on their website or have a sign on the door or something so people know.

Disagree with the last part. If it's not advertised as standard, it's not standard. The MOC's etc advertise that it IS included (with certain girls), they don't stipulate what ISN'T either.

As for your preference, different strokes for different folks I guess. I'd much prefer to have it agreed in advance than be hit up for an extra $20 after the event.

As for the OP, cheers for posting. Been meaning to catch Lemon for ages, really need to make a point of booking her sometime soon.

[rooter]

Hi pro seeker bro.
Good to hear you had a nice time with Lemon.
This little tiger is so sweet and so sexy!
The hardest part is surviving her fast and furious shower session which is only matched by her teacher Jasmin.
She gives a ferocious bbbj too.
And if you manage to survive that, her super tight pussy will surely make you explode like a volcano.
Gorgeous girl! I agree she is more GFE than PSE.
And what a great GFE. I'm well into triple figures with Jaoanese girls now and Lemon is among my all time favourites
Very special girl!

[GINZA]

Is this the famous Ginza's service?
Being stopped in the middle of BBBJ asking the $20 extra for CIM is quite a mood killer

These agreements should be stipulated upfront, or at least the included services should be clearly presented to the customer
It would be even better if the included service are in the roster, so a punter can make an informed choice

It sounds "curious" that this happened after a Ginza's AR (Aki) was posted few days ago suggesting some services should be paid as extra....:surprise:
Hope this forum is not used to test the willingness of punters to pay more, pay extra, pay, pay, pay, pay and only pay

When you book a girl in Moc, Bluemoon, 5*, ... you know exactly what to expect and which services are included; agreed these agencies are in a different price bracket but now this difference is becoming less and less significant since a top girl in Ginza costs $280 per 60min vs $300-350 from the agencies mentioned above

I know i am going to attract all sort of attacks from Ginza's fans; i have nothing against Ginza, i have been there few times and i have been overall satisfied



CIM-$20,
Anal-$50
these extra service started when Ginza opens in the CBD.

[HengDai]

Wow, an official response from Ginza. Guess that straightens everything out for anyone still unsure.

Thanks

[Gucci2012]

Booked Lemon based on her description of being tiny. She certainly was a tiny little angel barely reaching my chest. She had a sexy little body but not really my type, built a little too "solid" I guess.. taking nothing away from her - she is FAR from fat or anything. Everybody has different taste and I just prefer more of a super lithe, super skinny type.

Anyway, we started off in the shower together with Lemon soaping me up in all the right places. She paid particular attention to the old fella and I had to stop her because I hadn't cum in a few days and I wasn't going to last too long! Back to bed and after a particularly ferocious DFK session, she started BBBJ. When I straddled her face and started fucking her mouth, she stopped me halfway and told me $20 for CIM. I wasn't interested in it anyway so I said I'd hold off for her famously tight pussy.

So she doms me up and mounts me.. and wow! All the ARs about her is right on the money! She really is one of the tightest girls I've ever fucked and I didn't stand a chance of lasting very long.

After bit of a cuddle, we tried for round 2 but even after some very enthusiastic BBBJ, I just didn't have it in me for a Round 2 in a 45min session.

OK now, if this reads like a very standard AR, it's because it was a very standard session with Lemon. I just felt that we didn't develop that much of a connection. Now, don't let it stop you from booking a session with her because she really is adorable, it was more to do with me than her. I guess I was wanting a PSE experience while she is much more of GFE girl. This is purely a personal thing that's developed recently and from now on, I'll leave the cute, sweet, friendly, GFE girls like Lemon to the rest you punters :)

P.S. With my recent strong preference for PSE girls, I am becoming more and more interested in all the gang-bangs being organised on this forum! One day I shall grow the balls to come along to one...

Bro Pro seeker, is your massage shop going to open anytime soon? Any talented girls for us to sample?

[Gucci2012]

Is this the famous Ginza's service?
Being stopped in the middle of BBBJ asking the $20 extra for CIM is quite a mood killer

These agreements should be stipulated upfront, or at least the included services should be clearly presented to the customer
It would be even better if the included service are in the roster, so a punter can make an informed choice

It sounds "curious" that this happened after a Ginza's AR (Aki) was posted few days ago suggesting some services should be paid as extra....:surprise:
Hope this forum is not used to test the willingness of punters to pay more, pay extra, pay, pay, pay, pay and only pay

When you book a girl in Moc, Bluemoon, 5*, ... you know exactly what to expect and which services are included; agreed these agencies are in a different price bracket but now this difference is becoming less and less significant since a top girl in Ginza costs $280 per 60min vs $300-350 from the agencies mentioned above

I know i am going to attract all sort of attacks from Ginza's fans; i have nothing against Ginza, i have been there few times and i have been overall satisfied

You've "been there a few times and have been overall satisfied" yet the sentiment of your post seems you are unsatisfied....confusing.

[Gucci2012]

Is this the famous Ginza's service?
Being stopped in the middle of BBBJ asking the $20 extra for CIM is quite a mood killer

These agreements should be stipulated upfront, or at least the included services should be clearly presented to the customer
It would be even better if the included service are in the roster, so a punter can make an informed choice

It sounds "curious" that this happened after a Ginza's AR (Aki) was posted few days ago suggesting some services should be paid as extra....:surprise:
Hope this forum is not used to test the willingness of punters to pay more, pay extra, pay, pay, pay, pay and only pay

When you book a girl in Moc, Bluemoon, 5*, ... you know exactly what to expect and which services are included; agreed these agencies are in a different price bracket but now this difference is becoming less and less significant since a top girl in Ginza costs $280 per 60min vs $300-350 from the agencies mentioned above

I know i am going to attract all sort of attacks from Ginza's fans; i have nothing against Ginza, i have been there few times and i have been overall satisfied

You've "been there a few times and have been overall satisfied" yet the sentiment of your post seems you are unsatisfied....confusing.

Did you find a supplier for your erection problems yet?

[pro_seeker]

I wasn't too miffed about her stopping me to tell me the price in the middle of it all but I guess the question still remains, if it's acknowledged (by the management!) as a well known fact that it's $20 for CIM.. well, she shouldn't have had to stop me to tell me. Anyway, not too fussed about it all. I guess if I plan to CIM next time, I'll just tip her upfront so that she knows what to expect also. Only fair I suppose.

And Gucci, no the shop is not open yet.. it's been put on the back burner because I already own quite a few other businesses and really haven't had the chance to put more time into it! One day though, because there ain't nothing quite like a cash business.

[pro_seeker]

You've "been there a few times and have been overall satisfied" yet the sentiment of your post seems you are unsatisfied....confusing.

Did you find a supplier for your erection problems yet?

Sorry for the confusion, I guess what I was trying to convey is that I didn't quite click with Lemon personally but overall she would be a wonderful girl for others out there looking for GFE.

And no, I've been talking with another forum member about trying to get my hands on some Cialis but haven't had the chance to catch up yet. Looking forward to it though.

[HengDai]

You're right Gucci, it's quite a paradoxical post.

[pro_seeker]

Sorry for the confusion, I guess what I was trying to convey is that I didn't quite click with Lemon personally but overall she would be a wonderful girl for others out there looking for GFE.

And no, I've been talking with another forum member about trying to get my hands on some Cialis but haven't had the chance to catch up yet. Looking forward to it though.

Oh, you weren't referencing my post when you said you were confused. Anyway, my comments still stand.

[homaclese]

CIM-$20,
Anal-$50
these extra service started when Ginza opens in the CBD.



So who does anal at Ginza now?

[Gucci2012]

I wasn't too miffed about her stopping me to tell me the price in the middle of it all but I guess the question still remains, if it's acknowledged (by the management!) as a well known fact that it's $20 for CIM.. well, she shouldn't have had to stop me to tell me. Anyway, not too fussed about it all. I guess if I plan to CIM next time, I'll just tip her upfront so that she knows what to expect also. Only fair I suppose.

And Gucci, no the shop is not open yet.. it's been put on the back burner because I already own quite a few other businesses and really haven't had the chance to put more time into it! One day though, because there ain't nothing quite like a cash business.

So in comparison with Jessie and Lemon I'm guessing Jessie is more your type?

Hey!!! I hope you haven't been trying to poach talents at Ginza for your business, they might have to update the Red Button instructions

6.) If someone offers you a job in legit massage shop, press red button. Lol

Yeah I was referencing bro crank

[pro_seeker]

So in comparison with Jessie and Lemon I'm guessing Jessie is more your type?

Hey!!! I hope you haven't been trying to poach talents at Ginza for your business, they might have to update the Red Button instructions

6.) If someone offers you a job in legit massage shop, press red button. Lol

Yeah I was referencing bro crank

Absolutely! Good to see Jessie back on the roster for tomorrow too

[Crank]

You've "been there a few times and have been overall satisfied" yet the sentiment of your post seems you are unsatisfied....confusing.

Did you find a supplier for your erection problems yet?

When did i say i was unsatisfied with Ginza?
I simply stated that extra services should be stipulated in advance and clearly communicated to customers to avoid misunderstanding; this is beneficial for both girls and customers

I believe my post has been useful since eventually Ginza's management has replied confirming CIM and Anal are EXTRA

Thanks for your concern about my erection, it all works well; i was curious to try some Cialis to see the results and i am waiting for few pills to be delivered.

Mr Gucci you must be quite a loyal customer in Ginza, almost an "insider"
Back in December you complained Ginza's rates were too low for the market..after that rates went up significantly
Few days ago complained some services should not be given for free...now CIM and Anal are officially on the menu
I have never heard punters complaining of prices being too affordable or "special services" given for free...

Hope you are a stakeholder in Ginza, luckily "insider trading" is not a crime in this market; if you are not than i really don't understand from where you are coming from
If you prefer a more exclusive service there are other agencies targeting upmarket clientele

[Oceancrab]

Yes, I do agree with Crank. Generally speaking, Punter will not complain price is affordable as most of us will not have unlimited cash to punt. Based on my reading on the forum, Gucci is kind of "insider" of Ginza, as almost all the reviews are so positive and request price increase many times.

I also agree Ginza is a good place to punt for the decoration and young girls. So if I am loaded with cash, I will do long hours and extra trip, if cash restrained, I will reduce the frequency, shorten my stay or switch to another shop. Choice is mine.

There is no point to trash talking here, such as question whether Crank has a erection issue.

Just my point:thirst:


QUOTE=Crank;403920]When did i say i was unsatisfied with Ginza?
I simply stated that extra services should be stipulated in advance and clearly communicated to customers to avoid misunderstanding; this is beneficial for both girls and customers

I believe my post has been useful since eventually Ginza's management has replied confirming CIM and Anal are EXTRA

Thanks for your concern about my erection, it all works well; i was curious to try some Cialis to see the results and i am waiting for few pills to be delivered.

Mr Gucci you must be quite a loyal customer in Ginza, almost an "insider"
Back in December you complained Ginza's rates were too low for the market..after that rates went up significantly
Few days ago complained some services should not be given for free...now CIM and Anal are officially on the menu
I have never heard punters complaining of prices being too affordable or "special services" given for free...

Hope you are a stakeholder in Ginza, luckily "insider trading" is not a crime in this market; if you are not than i really don't understand from where you are coming from
If you prefer a more exclusive service there are other agencies targeting upmarket clientele[/QUOTE]

[Punter Poontang]

Few days ago complained some services should not be given for free...now CIM and Anal are officially on the menu


They've always been possible for some girls with some customers, which you would have known if you read the forum or bothered asking management or your girl when in there.

Management simply confirmed the rates here, the fact they were nice enough to do so by responding to your rubbish conspiracy theory does not mean you're "onto something".

[hoshimoony]

Come on guys, Lemon probably thought OP was going to CIM because he straddled on her face and was fucking her mouth. It's not like she stopped during a standard BBBJ to state the rate if I understand this correctly...

Also these transactions for extras are between you and the girl and doesn't benefit the shop at all, so I'm not sure why you guys are abusing Gucci about it. The price increases are a different matter to the extras. I flagged it in the Aki thread because she told me she was uncomfortable about raising the issue personally sometimes. Seriously if you want to prevent the girl from stating the rate midsession, why don't you be the one to ask about it upfront? Or in this case if the OP told Lemon that he wasn't going to CIM then she wouldn't have had to raise it herself. I'm sure the relationship you have with the girl will have some effect on what they're willing to do for you and for what price, but there you go, now you know the official guideline.

Anyway nice AR pro_seeker! Lemon is such a cute, sweet GFE girl with such a tight pussy. Sounds like she's become more confident from the time I saw her, so might be time I pay her a visit again :D

[Gucci2012]

When did i say i was unsatisfied with Ginza?
I simply stated that extra services should be stipulated in advance and clearly communicated to customers to avoid misunderstanding; this is beneficial for both girls and customers

I believe my post has been useful since eventually Ginza's management has replied confirming CIM and Anal are EXTRA

Thanks for your concern about my erection, it all works well; i was curious to try some Cialis to see the results and i am waiting for few pills to be delivered.

Mr Gucci you must be quite a loyal customer in Ginza, almost an "insider"
Back in December you complained Ginza's rates were too low for the market..after that rates went up significantly
Few days ago complained some services should not be given for free...now CIM and Anal are officially on the menu
I have never heard punters complaining of prices being too affordable or "special services" given for free...

Hope you are a stakeholder in Ginza, luckily "insider trading" is not a crime in this market; if you are not than i really don't understand from where you are coming from
If you prefer a more exclusive service there are other agencies targeting upmarket clientele

No I'm just concerned about punters who always want something for free and complain about $20 tips.

I've experienced the worst this city has to offer in regards to service. So when I experience service that is above and beyond I'll openly say it, some would rather girls give above and beyond services with out recognition and keep them at 3rd world prices because they can't be bothered to get out there and earn more money we live in great city where financial opportunities are everywhere.

For example I went on a one man campaign to raise Cassie's price and agreed that a price increase at Ginza was valid. Then people started saying they would lose customer's and business would fail...prices have increased and Cassie and Ginza is still popular than ever. Now what?

[CunningLinguist]

I went on a one man campaign to raise Cassie's price

Who's side are you on ...

[Crank]

No I'm just concerned about punters who always want something for free and complain about $20 tips.

I've experienced the worst this city has to offer in regards to service. So when I experience service that is above and beyond I'll openly say it, some would rather girls give above and beyond services with out recognition and keep them at 3rd world prices because they can't be bothered to get out there and earn more money we live in great city where financial opportunities are everywhere.

For example I went on a one man campaign to raise Cassie's price and agreed that a price increase at Ginza was valid. Then people started saying they would lose customer's and business would fail...prices have increased and Cassie and Ginza is still popular than ever. Now what?

Congratulations for campaigning a rate increase in Ginza...well done
Of course you did it just because you are genuinely interested in the wealth of the sweet and hot working ladies. BRAVO!!!

May i suggest to share your annual or quarterly Bonus with the not so sweet and hot working lady that every night cleans your office while you are punting at Ginza?

[Crank]

Ginza will do great even without few loosers who would never post a honest opinion fearing to loose the small privileges acquired with the management

Honestly i find it pathetic!

I stopped reading reviews on Ginza girls made by the usual suspects, because are always exaggerated and essentially useless...all is great, all is perfect, all is sensational, all is orgasmic, all is beyond anything else provided by other girls....

[Punter Poontang]

I stopped reading reviews on Ginza girls made by the usual suspects, because are always exaggerated and essentially useless...all is great, all is perfect, all is sensational, all is orgasmic, all is beyond anything else provided by other girls....

Can you name ONE single review by a "usual suspect" that has subsequently been contradicted by another punter having a vastly different experience?? I can't, enough said.

You're the only poster in this thread whose motives ought to be questioned ..... trying to create a service-related issue when the OP had no problem himself, and as Hoshimoony rightly pointed out, the girl was well within her rights to act as she did in that situation.

Then you congratulate management for their response to you, but all the while continue with this bullshit conspiracy theory of Gucci being in cahoots with them ..... make up your mind.

Oh, and yeah, I'm sure the price rises were all Gucci's doing .... nothing to do with simple supply & demand, or you know, that move to the new and improved premises or anything like that ....

[hoshimoony]

I stopped reading reviews on Ginza girls made by the usual suspects, because are always exaggerated and essentially useless...all is great, all is perfect, all is sensational, all is orgasmic, all is beyond anything else provided by other girls....

I agree with Poontang here. I'm pretty sure everyone's talking from their experiences, and I certainly find them helpful to narrow down on who I think is more my type. If you prefer not to read some reviews, then that's your choice but you never know what you find if you consider the writing style and preferences of the reviewer and learning to read between the lines.

Seriously, if you had a different experience to any of the reviews by what you call the "usual suspects", why don't you be the one to write some to better inform the rest of us? I'm sure everyone will appreciate honest reviews, and that will add more weight to what you're saying about the so called overly exaggerated reviews. At least I would love to hear about what you really think about some of the girls there, assuming you've been before from your comment that you're not unsatisfied. I prefer to read multiple reviews where possible so that I have a better overall picture, and you can certainly help me shape my choices.

And Gucci, I think you probably should stop fuelling the fire too if I may say so... not everyone's as fortunate to be able to afford the increases even if they agree with your ideals.

[Oceancrab]

Quote from Gucci: For example I went on a one man campaign to raise Cassie's price and agreed that a price increase at Ginza was valid. Then people started saying they would lose customer's and business would fail...prices have increased and Cassie and Ginza is still popular than ever. Now what?

To be honest, some of us do not have the time to write review as often as Gucci and may not earn as much as Gucci, I always believe that If u can not afford it, then it means you do not deserve it. So after they increase the price for cassie, I never visit her again (basically I am a boob man so nature boobs means a lot to me). There is a supply and demand, but there is also a balance point. After passing the tipping point, then it will cause loss to Ginza. As Gucci said "now what", just try to double the price for Gold premium, then I am sure it will see significant impact on busiess. If you do the maths for Ginza and girls, one hour without a customer will cost them more for $20 increase per hour, assume the girl work 6 or 7 hours per shift.

Regular customer will contribute more than just one off, that is why business always want keep loyalty customers. But as I said before, if I am stretched, then I will do reduce frequency, shorten my stay or go the another shop.

If Gucci is so generous, I think you can tip $100 to all the girls you visited in Ginza every time if that will make you happy.

However, I do agree CIM is an extra, as long as it is clearly stated, I do not have a problem to pay for that.

[the wizard]

I had feeling that this thread would eventually get heated and it's a crying shame because Lemon deserves better.
There are NO conspiracy theories, NO favouritisms, NO made up and exaggerated reviews, NO price hikes based on comments made here
And NO usual suspects either.
Lets stop fueling all this and concentrate on the gorgeous Lemon,and acknowledge that special services command a extra price for the girls
- it's really very simple....

[Gucci2012]

I always believe that If u can not afford it, then it means you do not deserve it. So after they increase the price for cassie, I never visit her again (basically I am a boob man so nature boobs means a lot to me). There is a supply and demand, but there is also a balance point. After passing the tipping point, then it will cause loss to Ginza. As Gucci said "now what", just try to double the price for Gold premium, then I am sure it will see significant impact on busiess. If you do the maths for Ginza and girls, one hour without a customer will cost them more for $20 increase per hour, assume the girl work 6 or 7 hours per shift.

Regular customer will contribute more than just one off, that is why business always want keep loyalty customers. But as I said before, if I am stretched, then I will do reduce frequency, shorten my stay or go the another shop.

If Gucci is so generous, I think you can tip $100 to all the girls you visited in Ginza every time if that will make you happy.

However, I do agree CIM is an extra, as long as it is clearly stated, I do not have a problem to pay for that.

Oh i see the difference in our views now. I'm saying if a WL is a hard worker and is good at her job she deserves a pay raise but you disagree.

You think I'm rich enough for $100 tips to all girls I see, I disagree. I'm not that wealthy. But at the same time were not workers living in some 3rd world textile plant making clothes for David JONES getting 2 dollars a day. We are workers living in one of the greatest country's in the modern world. I came to this country with nothing 7 years ago. Everything before the last 3 years I worked and struggled hard for, so don't be upset because I'm enjoying the small fruits of my labor now.

Your saying reviews consume a large amount of time....I disagree. Reviews don't have to be 10000 word novels, reviews of any length are valid. To be more efficient I copy and paste and change a few details then add my notes at the end. 10-15 minutes.

You accused me of being a Ginza "insider" I disagree.

You say I get a quarterly bonus, I partly disagree its only annual, September actually. You are right about the cleaning lady but she's not hot....my office is restricted, so I clean it myself and just leave the rubbish outside the door for her to collect, true story.

My apologies to other Ginza bro's but if these muppets can talk their mind then so can I....and if that makes me a Muppet, then I'm gonna be the biggest Muppet in Muppet town, bigger then Kermit the frog. :-)

[Oceancrab]

Quote from Gucci2012
"Oh i see the difference in our views now. I'm saying if a WL is a hard worker and is good at her job she deserves a pay raise but you disagree.

You think I'm rich enough for $100 tips to all girls I see, I disagree. I'm not that wealthy. But at the same time were not workers living in some 3rd world textile plant making clothes for David JONES getting 2 dollars a day. We are workers living in one of the greatest country's in the modern world. I came to this country with nothing 7 years ago. Everything before the last 3 years I worked and struggled hard for, so don't be upset because I'm enjoying the small fruits of my labor now.

Your saying reviews consume a large amount of time....I disagree. Reviews don't have to be 10000 word novels, reviews of any length are valid. To be more efficient I copy and paste and change a few details then add my notes at the end. 10-15 minutes.

You accused me of being a Ginza "insider" I disagree.

You say I get a quarterly bonus, I partly disagree its only annual, September actually. You are right about the cleaning lady but she's not hot....my office is restricted, so I clean it myself and just leave the rubbish outside the door for her to collect, true story.

My apologies to other Ginza bro's but if these muppets can talk their mind then so can I....and if that makes me a Muppet, then I'm gonna be the biggest Muppet in Muppet town, bigger then Kermit the frog. :-) "



I consent with the wizard that the thread should go back to the essentce, so this will be my last reply.

I am not Crank, so I don't accuse you for anything, get your fact straight. All I am saying is what I will do and some common sense.

1. No punter will complain the price too affortable.

2. If you are happy with the service you received from WL, be her regular and tip her privately. No point to hijack the price and demand price increase in the forum to show off.

3. Not all experince in Ginza are so great as far as my own experience is concerned. However, I keep it down to myself as YMMV and punting is always hit and miss. I will add my comments to the girls I had great experience with, to help others to choose, for example, Toshika is my favorite, I saw her three times before she left and tipped her every time.

4. I am not going to reply the thread 4 am in the morning and I do not copy and paste, so if you think it is an easy job, be my guest.

5. One blank hour will cost Ginza and WL more, compared to $20 increase. Just do the basic calculation. There is a balance point there.

When I was here ten years ago, I got nothing with me, now I am in the top marginal tax bracket, therefore I do believe hard work should be rewarded, but being nice and humble can go a long way.

If you would like to be the biggest Muppet in Muppet town, I am not ging to fight for that title as I am sure you deserve it.

End of story.

[Gucci2012]

Quote from Gucci2012
"Oh i see the difference in our views now. I'm saying if a WL is a hard worker and is good at her job she deserves a pay raise but you disagree.

You think I'm rich enough for $100 tips to all girls I see, I disagree. I'm not that wealthy. But at the same time were not workers living in some 3rd world textile plant making clothes for David JONES getting 2 dollars a day. We are workers living in one of the greatest country's in the modern world. I came to this country with nothing 7 years ago. Everything before the last 3 years I worked and struggled hard for, so don't be upset because I'm enjoying the small fruits of my labor now.

Your saying reviews consume a large amount of time....I disagree. Reviews don't have to be 10000 word novels, reviews of any length are valid. To be more efficient I copy and paste and change a few details then add my notes at the end. 10-15 minutes.

You accused me of being a Ginza "insider" I disagree.

You say I get a quarterly bonus, I partly disagree its only annual, September actually. You are right about the cleaning lady but she's not hot....my office is restricted, so I clean it myself and just leave the rubbish outside the door for her to collect, true story.

My apologies to other Ginza bro's but if these muppets can talk their mind then so can I....and if that makes me a Muppet, then I'm gonna be the biggest Muppet in Muppet town, bigger then Kermit the frog. :-) "



I consent with the wizard that the thread should go back to the essentce, so this will be my last reply.

I am not Crank, so I don't accuse you for anything, get your fact straight. All I am saying is what I will do and some common sense.

1. No punter will complain the price too affortable.

2. If you are happy with the service you received from WL, be her regular and tip her privately. No point to hijack the price and demand price increase in the forum to show off.

3. Not all experince in Ginza are so great as far as my own experience is concerned. However, I keep it down to myself as YMMV and punting is always hit and miss. I will add my comments to the girls I had great experience with, to help others to choose, for example, Toshika is my favorite, I saw her three times before she left and tipped her every time.

4. I am not going to reply the thread 4 am in the morning and I do not copy and paste, so if you think it is an easy job, be my guest.

5. One blank hour will cost Ginza and WL more, compared to $20 increase. Just do the basic calculation. There is a balance point there.

When I was here ten years ago, I got nothing with me, now I am in the top marginal tax bracket, therefore I do believe hard work should be rewarded, but being nice and humble can go a long way.

If you would like to be the biggest Muppet in Muppet town, I am not ging to fight for that title as I am sure you deserve it.

End of story.

Your correct your not Crank he said the AR's were exaggerated but didn't have the balls to a.) Name who writes fake AR's and b.) Couldn't write any of his own AR's to differ from current AR's but you did accuse me and your exact words were I waz a Ginza "insider" so if you can't remember your own words then you are a Muppet.

Top marginal tax bracket? Congratulations Richie rich.