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Gucci2012
01-02-2014, 07:29 PM
http://clubgrandhit.com.au/index.html

Anyone been here? Checkout the cast section of all the jgirls. Its on Castlereagh St.

High rollers???

harmony
01-02-2014, 07:41 PM
Review 2012

http://www.yelp.com.au/biz/club-grand-hit-sydnea (http://www.yelp.com.au/biz/club-grand-hit-sydney)
"'Super exclusive Japanese hostess club experience - as in entry only permitted if you are Japanese or with Japanese - just like in Japan so its very authentic in that sense."

rooter
01-02-2014, 07:42 PM
Hostess bars are a rip off! better off going to a brothel!

Max Impact
01-02-2014, 11:09 PM
Funny! Iku from TMC who became Maki at Ginza/TC also worked there as did Nice Impact, one of my all time favourites from TMC!

Gucci2012
02-02-2014, 01:38 AM
Funny! Iku from TMC who became Maki at Ginza/TC also worked there as did Nice Impact, one of my all time favourites from TMC!

Soooooo is this where yamada has set up? lololol

You can't miss their transport van, its got puctures jav babes all over it.

black knight
02-02-2014, 07:59 AM
I am interested and found this article;

How would you get into a hostess club? To gain entrance to one of these places as a foreigner is a little harder. Here are the ways you might gain entrance:

-Your Japanese is extremely proficient
-You are with a Japanese friend
-You know the owner
-You know a host
-You have a friend who has been before
-You have a friend who extremely proficient at Japanese
-You have a talking dog, which is extremely proficient in Japanese

Once in you may be given the option to chose a girl or take any girl. Choosing a girl will generally be more expensive. I wouldn’t really know which option to recommend. Then once in you may be given a choice to sit at the front or in the back room. The back room is more expensive – about 5 to 7, thousand yen an hour. (Prices will varying depending on club and location.) In the front room it will be about 3000 an hour.

Sometimes you may be able to drink for free! Nomihodai style. This depends on the per hour charge. You can drink for free but your host cannot every drink you buy for her or him (there are male hosts too) will be extremely expensive. The host will pour your drinks and cht to you and in theory that is all. You may wonder what’s all this backroom business then? Well the backroom tends to be a little more private.
All the hostess business comes from the Geisha tradition. Geisha were not prostitutes – rather they were entertainers. Though if they did like a client – then eventually they may sleep with him. Hostess exist in this similar limbo. I know a Canadian girl who lived in Toyko with her boyfriend. She supported them both by working as a hostess. All she did was pour drinks – she didn’t even speak much Japanese. Instead men, usually elderly important business types, would come and have her pour drinks an she would be bought champagne (which she often disposed of by pouring into a near by plant pot). Nothing untoward ever happened.

Most hostess clubs have strict rules – about fraternizing with clientele but the boundaries are fuzzy. A male friend who attended some of the local hosting clubs went to the backroom area. Basically this was all kissing and heavy petting. If you frequent hostess clubs often you may eventually get a hostess that deals with you. I imagine most of these long term relationships do end in sex. Hostess clubs fill their own particular Japanese niche. There are faster ways to have sex in Japan – prostitution seems to be legal here or at least restrictions are not enforced.



Funny! Iku from TMC who became Maki at Ginza/TC also worked there as did Nice Impact, one of my all time favourites from TMC!
I can sort of see how many J girls could have transitioned from here to Tmc and Ginza.

Max Impact
02-02-2014, 08:13 AM
I can sort of see how many J girls could have transitioned from here to Tmc and Ginza.

It was the other way. They transitioned to this club from TMC. They invited me and said that it would be no problem as I knew them. One told me that she was expected to go to dinner with clients for free and when she was working it was for about $17 an hour. It didn't seem to me that there was anything other than hand holding etc. maybe there was.

If you wanted sex with a Japanese girl this would be a very unlikely way to go.

rooter
02-02-2014, 08:17 AM
I guess I just have a very primitive approach to sex.
I can't see the point of spending hundreds or even thousands of dollars on endless chatting, flirting and drinking with a girl in the hope that eventually I might get a fuck.
If we are not fucking, sucking, licking etc within 10 minutes of meeting a girl I lose interest.
Punting just seems like a much better option than hostess bars to me.

AHLUNGOR
02-02-2014, 10:15 AM
There may be some cultural differences here between the western and eastern cultures in terms of brothels and "clubbing" here.

I suppose it's easier if you understand the situation of Japanese Geisha then you can see the point. First of all, there are a big range of price different from the bottom to the very top elite.

Secondly, a Geisha is Not a prostitute or sex worker, they are "entertainers" they can sing and dance and play instruments (and not the magic flute if that's what you are thinking!) they are hired to perform in high class restaurant or elite private clubs for businessmen and politicians as expensive and classy entertainers , they are usually not the sexual subjects. However, in addition to the Geisha entertainment, there may be other club girls also in attendances and these are WLs and your sexual desires can be fulfilled just a matter of money.

There are non Geisha clubs too and people go there to meet higher class club girls to drink after works, again, it's expensive and the girls are at a higher quality.

Once again, Japanese businessmen primarily go there for the company and for those with deep pockets, sure, a hotel fuck to follow can be just standard play.

Then you have the cheaper karaoke bar, bath house, straight brothels etc. and this is more for direct sex! And in brother rooter's case, these are your kind of shops where within 10 min, your cock will be inside a mouth, a pussy or whatever pleases you...... lol

Back 30-40 years in Hong Kong when the sauna/massage, one floor one and karaoke sex were not as flooded as they are now, prostitution is not as open and easy and with so much varieties as they are today! We must thank the thousands of Chinese sex workers who flooded the HK market and provided so much pleasures !!

But still there are exclusive clubs for businessmen to entertain and actually conducting billion dollars business deals, that's the Asian culture to conduct business transactions or entertain corrupted officials - and the club girls may or may not be a WL - once again depending on price on offer !!

Just my two cents,

I think I can almost write a book on that but it's Sunday morning, got to go!

May be brother Wil and Travelmate can give more lights to the topic

Cheers

yellow_fever
02-02-2014, 01:50 PM
You have to remember also, that most of the business in the high dollar places is corporate money. It's less common for a guy to go to one of these places himself, or with a mate (though not unheard of!). In Korea and Japan, hostess bars of membership bars come in a range of prices and the cheaper ones are basically the same as the Gogo bars in thailand. The premium places are very exclusive though. Due to the fairly strict Confucian rules governing formal conversation, business meetings are pretty much just lectures; if you're the senior person then you do all the talking and everyone else just listens and agrees. The real communication happens after work at "office dinners". If you work in a big company, attendance is compulsory, at least 2 nights a week or more. These dinners often have 3 rounds; first at a pub/restaurant, then at a karaoke, and thirdly the senior management or company guests will go to the hostess bars. The company picks up the tab.

Same story with higher end negotiations. It's hard to put a price on creating the right atmosphere for business, and premium hostess bars know how to do it. It's just one of the perks of being in a corporate job, like flying business class, staying 5 star, expensive meals on your business visa, taxi limo etc... Most of these you wouldn't pay out of your own pocket, but if it's a perk of the job, why not?

For sex theres plenty of other options too, and there's options for company. I love the barber shop handjob places that also give you a shave in Korea, coffee delivery girls, coffee shops where you get to look up girls skirts, blowjob bars, cuddle clubs, image clubs etc...

hiddencharm
02-02-2014, 06:03 PM
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Gucci2012
02-02-2014, 10:25 PM
So in the bigger scheme of things if you want the company of a young Japanese girl in the cbd who you can sit and talk with in luxurious surroundings who does dfk and bbbj and is alot cheaper than Club Grand Hit there is really only option....Ginza!!!!!

black knight
02-02-2014, 10:37 PM
So in the bigger scheme of things if you want the company of a young Japanese girl in the cbd who you can sit and talk with in luxurious surroundings who does dfk and bbbj and is alot cheaper than Club Grand Hit there is really only option....Ginza!!!!!
You know Gucci... I think you just hit the nail on the head.
This hostess club stuff really sounds like it would be a very expensive prick tease. . Thats if I was hoping to have sex.
well at least for me.

yellow_fever
02-02-2014, 10:59 PM
You guys are totally missing the point. It's not a venue for sex. Kinda like saying "geeeez, don't know why I bother going to the hairdresser. She smiled at me and everything, took my money and flirted with me. But I never got to fuck her in the ass or cum on her face"

Gucci2012
02-02-2014, 11:12 PM
You guys are totally missing the point. It's not a venue for sex. Kinda like saying "geeeez, don't know why I bother going to the hairdresser. She smiled at me and everything, took my money and flirted with me. But I never got to fuck her in the ass or cum on her face"

I think you missed my point? if you want to go and and chat with a young j girl there is a cheaper option that has more extras if you so choose to partake in such extras. Its not unheard of for men to go to brothels just to "talk" with girls.

20cm
02-02-2014, 11:31 PM
Like taking a condom into a massage shop?

yellow_fever
03-02-2014, 02:09 AM
I think you missed my point? if you want to go and and chat with a young j girl there is a cheaper option that has more extras if you so choose to partake in such extras. Its not unheard of for men to go to brothels just to "talk" with girls.

Yeah that'd be fine, and maybe you'd take the same girl who says "you can fuck me in the ass for an extra $50" to meet your mum, or involve her as the third part to a critical business deal that might make or break your company too ;-)

I don't think 'club grand hit' is in the high end of hostess clubs, but I've been to some of the high end hostess clubs in korea and japan, and it's a whole other class of girl. These are girls with education, background, connections, sense, diplomacy. If you're going to say "yeah, you could go to a fuck shop and talk at a lesser rate", you might as well say "yeah, you could go to a butcher for a lot less than a doctor. They have the same kind of skills" ;-)

Gucci2012
03-02-2014, 07:28 AM
Yeah that'd be fine, and maybe you'd take the same girl who says "you can fuck me in the ass for an extra $50" to meet your mum, or involve her as the third part to a critical business deal that might make or break your company too ;-)

I don't think 'club grand hit' is in the high end of hostess clubs, but I've been to some of the high end hostess clubs in korea and japan, and it's a whole other class of girl. These are girls with education, background, connections, sense, diplomacy. If you're going to say "yeah, you could go to a fuck shop and talk at a lesser rate", you might as well say "yeah, you could go to a butcher for a lot less than a doctor. They have the same kind of skills" ;-)

So your perception of shop girls is that they are illiterate and uncultured and like getting anal for $50? Sounds like a hateful view of wl's.

20cm
03-02-2014, 09:33 AM
So your perception of shop girls is that they are illiterate and uncultured and like getting anal for $50? Sounds like a hateful view of wl's.

Typical do gooder!
Always trying to make issues when theres none there.
Gucci do you also vote Greens?

Gucci2012
03-02-2014, 09:49 AM
Typical do gooder!
Always trying to make issues when theres none there.
Gucci do you also vote Greens?

Lolololol those are his own words. I'm not eligible to vote. If you share the same view that wl's are illiterate and uncultured and will do anal for $50 start a thread. Then start another thread that details all your former banned usernames and your obsession with Ahlungor?

AHLUNGOR
03-02-2014, 09:49 AM
I think you missed my point? if you want to go and and chat with a young j girl there is a cheaper option that has more extras if you so choose to partake in such extras. Its not unheard of for men to go to brothels just to "talk" with girls.

Totally agreed with brother Gucci on that. Lots of time people visit brothels and massage shops is for the company with a WL or ML that you like , sure, the sex, the massage and the HE are important, but majority of the times are actually spent on communicating = talking.

For all those rich punters who take the overnight option, how many times can you fuck ?? in the end, when all the animal lust are satisfied , don't they all ending up talking or felt asleep in each others arms ?

As for a massage shop, I know for a fact that lots of brothers would spend a whole day or half a day in the shop, he may see one ml for three or four hours, or see one girl for an hour, have a break, chat to the Mamasan , go out for some lunch or go out to buy some food for the girls , back again. Have a chat with the other girls, and when he is in the mood again, see the same girl for more session or try a different girl!

Don't think he even cum in every session but will pay the tips never the less, some punter may just like to watch and touch and talk!!

BTW, those are true stories but ain't me, as I don't have the time nor the money and I certainly won't just talk for sure!

Just my two cents.


Cheers

20cm
03-02-2014, 10:00 AM
Lolololol those are his own words. I'm not eligible to vote. If you share the same view that wl's are illiterate and uncultured and will do anal for $50 start a thread. Then start another thread that details all your former banned usernames and your obsession with Ahlungor?

Maybe you should start a thread on womens lib :)

20cm
03-02-2014, 10:07 AM
So your perception of shop girls is that they are illiterate and uncultured and like getting anal for $50? Sounds like a hateful view of wl's.

Those are your views and your words!
Don't blame others for your actions.
And you not being able to vote is a blessing!

Gucci2012
03-02-2014, 10:50 AM
Don't blame others for your actions.


This from the guy who blames Ahlungor for everything wrong with the forum and the massage world in general.

20cm
03-02-2014, 10:58 AM
This from the guy who blames Ahlungor for everything wrong with the forum and the massage world in general.

You have missed the point yesterday, you missed the point today and I am sure you will miss the point tomorrow.
You should be used to missing the point by now, if not then get used to it as it seems to be a way of life for you. ;) ;) ;)

Gucci2012
03-02-2014, 11:08 AM
You have missed the point yesterday, you missed the point today and I am sure you will miss the point tomorrow.
You should be used to missing the point by now, if not then get used to it as it seems to be a way of life for you. ;) ;) ;)

This from the guy who gets banned 20 times a year because he misses point about forum etiquette. The difference between me and you is I can do this dance all day and all year I doubt you have the same luxury, you'll be banned soon and I'll still be here laughing at you.

20cm
03-02-2014, 11:13 AM
Yes you can laugh and dance all you want.
That's what clowns do best.
At least now you have learnt your place in this world. ;)


This from the guy who gets banned 20 times a year because he misses point about forum etiquette. The difference between me and you is I can do this dance all day and all year I doubt you have the same luxury, you'll be banned soon and I'll still be here laughing at you.

yellow_fever
03-02-2014, 11:37 AM
So your perception of shop girls is that they are illiterate and uncultured and like getting anal for $50? Sounds like a hateful view of wl's.

Let's not go putting words into my mouth there eh?

I'm respectful of all ladies, but this topic has raised the question of "why pay a lot of money to talk to a girl when you could pay less money to talk to a different girl?" And in that sense we can have a sensible conversation about it and do some comparisons. It's just as valid a question as asking "why pay $1200 an hour for sex with a private girl when you could go to 269 Canterbury and get the same thing for $100?"

Clearly there are some differences. I've met some lovely mls and wls, but my experience of visiting massage parlours that offer extras and the lower price range of FS shops ($150/hour) has been that the girls generally are not highly fluent speakers of English. I never said they were illiterate. What I am saying, is that they generally don't have a world class education. Some are studying, some have degrees. Not many have multiple degrees from world class schools or are fluent in 3 or 4 languages. Not many have model appearances. Same story with their family background etc.

In a first class hostess club this is what you're paying for.

98% of threads here are asking questions like "does she swallow? Will she suck me off without a condom? Does she charge extra to take it up the ass? Can I cum on her face?"

I haven't seen many threads (though there have been some)saying "is she nice to talk to? How's her understanding of japanese business practices? What was her major?"

Gucci2012
03-02-2014, 11:52 AM
Yes you can laugh and dance all you want.
That's what clowns do best.
At least now you have learnt your place in this world. ;)

This from the guy who never learns his place and re-registers 20times a year for making the same mistakes over and over again. Its sad and funny at the same time.

Gucci2012
03-02-2014, 11:59 AM
Let's not go putting words into my mouth eh?

I'm respectful of all ladies, but this topic has raised the question of "why pay a lot of money to talk to a girl when you could pay less money to talk to a different girl?" And in that sense we can have a sensible conversation about it and do some comparisons. It's just as valid a question as asking "why pay $1200 an hour for sex with a private girl when you could go to 269 Canterbury and get the same thing for $100?"

Clearly there are some differences. I've met some lovely mls and wls, but my experience of visiting massage parlours that offer extras and the lower price range of FS shops ($150/hour) has been that the girls generally are not highly fluent speakers of English. I never said they were illiterate. What I am saying, is that they generally don't have a world class education. Some are studying, some have degrees. Not many have multiple degrees from world class schools or are fluent in 3 or 4 languages. Not many have model appearances. Same story with their family background etc.

In a first class hostess club this is what you're paying for.

98% of threads here are asking questions like "does she swallow? Will she suck me off without a condom? Does she charge extra to take it up the ass? Can I cum on her face?"

I haven't seen many threads (though there have been some)saying "is she nice to talk to? How's her understanding of japanese business practices? What was her major?"

My apologies but that's just the vibe I got from your posts. I think you'll find there are quite a few shop girls that are highly educated and very cultured.

20cm
03-02-2014, 12:02 PM
Don't think too much Gucci. ;)

yellow_fever
03-02-2014, 12:11 PM
My apologies but that's just the vibe I got from your posts. I think you'll find there are quite a few shop girls that are highly educated and very cultured.

Sorry if i came across the wrong way. I've met a few girls like that, but not many! Those that are really smart, educated and have a good family background/connections don't stay in this industry long. Its the same story with the girls in the hostess clubs; most will go on to live a more normal life, have a career or become a wife to a successful lucky guy. The ones that do it long term often end up in that position because they have no other attractive prospects.

I guess it's no different from any other job in that sense!

AHLUNGOR
03-02-2014, 12:24 PM
Sorry if i came across the wrong way. I've met a few girls like that, but not many! Those that are really smart, educated and have a good family background/connections don't stay in this industry long. Its the same story with the girls in the hostess clubs; most will go on to live a more normal life, have a career or become a wife to a successful lucky guy. The ones that do it long term often end up in that position because they have no other attractive prospects.

I guess it's no different from any other job in that sense!

Milo from 5 Star is really a smart cookie,

Mena from Snow Lotus and 7 Lotus

And the old Mia from 501 Newtown who has an accounting degree, to name just a few

Cheers

ps. and someone I have never met, but had a bit of chit chat in this forum - sister Isis ex Kyoto - I'm sure a few brothers will agree that she can carry herself very well outside the shop for sure. right ??

Bracket
03-02-2014, 12:34 PM
... Kinda like saying "geeeez, don't know why I bother going to the hairdresser. She smiled at me and everything, took my money and flirted with me. But I never got to fuck her in the ass or cum on her face"I can't resist. Exactly that did happen to me, and still is. So guys, it is possible. But no names, no pack drill!

Gucci2012
03-02-2014, 12:38 PM
Don't think too much Gucci. ;)

This from the guy who doesn't think at all.

20cm
03-02-2014, 12:41 PM
This from the guy who doesn't think at all.

Just keep dancing and laughing.
If you're happy, i'm happy!

;) ;) ;)

Gucci2012
03-02-2014, 01:38 PM
Just keep dancing and laughing.
If you're happy, i'm happy!

;) ;) ;)

This from the guy....ok you got me, I have no reply for that post, its not an attack, its not a taunt...checkmate you win.

devilangel
04-02-2014, 03:25 PM
I've been taken to GrandHit by a Japanese collegue a few times.

Yes you do need a Japanese friend to take you in and Yes some of the girls are absolute stunners that you will not find in ANY FS shop (including Ginza club) but most of them cannot speak english and that really limits down your options.

If you don't have a girl of your preference (from a previous visit), then a random girl is sent to sit beside you at your table.

They will do the whole intro and mix your drinks for you and hand you the drinks with two hands etc the whole lot. Pure Japanese GFE.

The girls rotate around tables and if you like the girl then you can ask her to stay, though it will be extra charge to your final bill.

When they're being rotated around and they really like you then they will leave you a personalised name card, generaly saying how glad they are to have met you and look forward to your next visit etc etc. Some of them would leave their personal number on the card too.

The most fun part is that the girls are trained to follow you to the male toilet entrance!! When you come out of the toilet, you will be greeted with the warmest smile and they will hand you a towl with two hands ofcourse and the all famous Japanese courtesy bow.

All in all it's basically just pure chatting and would set you back about $500 each visit for about 3 hours including drinks. You can buy a bottle of wine or sake and leave it there under your name for next visit.

Gucci2012
04-02-2014, 04:09 PM
I've been taken to GrandHit by a Japanese collegue a few times.

Yes you do need a Japanese friend to take you in and Yes some of the girls are absolute stunners that you will not find in ANY FS shop (including Ginza club) but most of them cannot speak english and that really limits down your options.



Well this is #awkward because bro max impact has named 2 FS shop girls one of whom did work for Ginza as working at Club Grand Hit. I don't see bro Max as being a liar.

devilangel
04-02-2014, 04:26 PM
Well this is #awkward because bro max impact has named 2 FS shop girls one of whom did work for Ginza as working at Club Grand Hit. I don't see bro Max as being a liar.

Well this is akward (minus the #) because obviously bro Max is not lying. One can safely assume it would
mean the girl did not do well at a pure chatting gentlemen's club and would result in FS. Not that there's anything wrong with working at FS because they pay the girls pennies at Grand Hit or Crescent.

I have visited 1 girl at Ginza that worked in Grand Hit or Crescent. She complained about how little money she makes there. $17/h.

Not to be mean but I would not let her sit beside me at Grand Hit as I paid premium and would/should expect more than average looks.

AHLUNGOR
04-02-2014, 04:44 PM
I've been taken to GrandHit by a Japanese collegue a few times.

Yes you do need a Japanese friend to take you in and Yes some of the girls are absolute stunners that you will not find in ANY FS shop (including Ginza club) but most of them cannot speak english and that really limits down your options.

If you don't have a girl of your preference (from a previous visit), then a random girl is sent to sit beside you at your table.

They will do the whole intro and mix your drinks for you and hand you the drinks with two hands etc the whole lot. Pure Japanese GFE.

The girls rotate around tables and if you like the girl then you can ask her to stay, though it will be extra charge to your final bill.

When they're being rotated around and they really like you then they will leave you a personalised name card, generaly saying how glad they are to have met you and look forward to your next visit etc etc. Some of them would leave their personal number on the card too.

The most fun part is that the girls are trained to follow you to the male toilet entrance!! When you come out of the toilet, you will be greeted with the warmest smile and they will hand you a towl with two hands ofcourse and the all famous Japanese courtesy bow.

All in all it's basically just pure chatting and would set you back about $500 each visit for about 3 hours including drinks. You can buy a bottle of wine or sake and leave it there under your name for next visit.



Hi Brothwe DA,

I have never been to such Japanese club, watched a lot of the kind in Japanese midnight adult drama though...........lol and what you have described about the service and routines are pretty much spot on.

I have been to Night Clubs/Karaoke Bars in HK, China and Macau but I think those places may work a bit differently, as ultimately a fucking session is on the card - this is quite different to the same kind of night clubs (may be more up market ones) even in Hong Kong back 30-40 years ago when not every club girl is fuckable - and most certainly not on the first visit - how time and things have changed.

Some of the scenes you may be familiar !!


http://d.hatena.ne.jp/images/diary/k/ktagawa/titleimg.jpg


http://cinema.pia.co.jp/piaphoto/flyer/550/155979_1.jpg


http://prt.iza.ne.jp/images/news/20091204/249586_c450.jpg


http://www.tvq.co.jp/variety/chirachira/blog/photo/20100923-cf1c259815cec8020bc8103eaab025d6.jpg


http://st98.storage.gree.jp/album/87/69/35918769/834176ad_640.jpg

AHLUNGOR
04-02-2014, 04:57 PM
The most fun part is that the girls are trained to follow you to the male toilet entrance!! When you come out of the toilet, you will be greeted with the warmest smile and they will hand you a towl with two hands ofcourse and the all famous Japanese courtesy bow.




And thanks for pointing this out, I didn't even notice that until you mentioned it - I suppose I just took it for granted .................lol

This is a scene from the drama series, brothers can jump to 8.37 for this kind of services, and some good tits scene from 13.36............haha

http://www.pideo.net/video/dailymotion/fa74cdc63e82b294/



And this is the lead actress Mikie Hara, such a big tits girl but never posted nude..........WTF !!

http://iv1.lisimg.com/image/2929070/600full-mikie-hara.jpg

devilangel
04-02-2014, 04:59 PM
Hi Brothwe DA,

I have never been to such Japanese club, watched a lot of the kind in Japanese midnight adult drama though...........lol and what you have described about the service and routines are pretty much spot on.

I have been to Night Clubs/Karaoke Bars in HK, China and Macau but I think those places may work a bit differently, as ultimately a fucking session is on the card - this is quite different to the same kind of night clubs (may be more up market ones) even in Hong Kong back 30-40 years ago when not every club girl is fuckable - and most certainly not on the first visit - how time and things have changed.

Some of the scenes you may be familiar !!


Bro Ahlungor,

Yes yes, That's how they dress! I forgot to mention they have the most sexy semi-formal gowns.

I guess its hard for us to understand that Japanese businessmen really do pay just to drink and chat with girls for hours.

For me, the only reason I keep going back is because of that little magical card the girls leave behind. So much potential, yet so far.....

I have yet to experience the karaoke places in China. That would be my next adventure!

AHLUNGOR
04-02-2014, 05:06 PM
Bro Ahlungor,

Yes yes, That's how they dress! I forgot to mention they have the most sexy semi-formal gowns.

I guess its hard for us to understand that Japanese businessmen really do pay just to drink and chat with girls for hours.

For me, the only reason I keep going back is because of that little magical card the girls leave behind. So much potential, yet so far.....

I have yet to experience the karaoke places in China. That would be my next adventure!


You should watch those video then, the drama series is into its forth installments. they always cast some real life Japanese porn actresses to play the club girls so there is always one fuck scene in every episode - or nudity with tits galore - the only reason why I watched..............haha

Gucci2012
04-02-2014, 07:15 PM
Well this is akward (minus the #) because obviously bro Max is not lying. One can safely assume it would
mean the girl did not do well at a pure chatting gentlemen's club and would result in FS. Not that there's anything wrong with working at FS because they pay the girls pennies at Grand Hit or Crescent.

I have visited 1 girl at Ginza that worked in Grand Hit or Crescent. She complained about how little money she makes there. $17/h.

Not to be mean but I would not let her sit beside me at Grand Hit as I paid premium and would/should expect more than average looks.

So when you say "some of the girls are absolute stunners that you will not find in ANY FS shop (including Ginza club)" you actually mean "I have visited 1 girl in Ginza that worked in Grand Hit"???

Wow!

devilangel
04-02-2014, 08:10 PM
So when you say "some of the girls are absolute stunners that you will not find in ANY FS shop (including Ginza club)" you actually mean "I have visited 1 girl in Ginza that worked in Grand Hit"???

Wow!

Yes if you read the paragraph properly, you will find it holds true.

Or maybe I should put things into perspective for your better understanding.

Some of the girls are so pretty that you will not find in any FS shop because they have all the sugar daddies they need, met through working at the club.

On the otherhand the not so pretty ones or even ugly ones may end up in FS shops because the money they earn at the club is simply not enough.

You have to understand clubs such as Grand Hit is simply a platform for the lonely Japanese businessmen and the young Japanese girls studying abroad or on working holiday to hook up.

There's a reason why it's Japanese guests only.

Most of the girls' ultimate goal is to find financial sponsors and the club offers them the opportunity to meet Japanese business people in a relatively safe and controlled environment. The catch is the girls get paid in pennies.

Depending on the arrangement with her sugar dady, the girl will get all her bills paid as well as monthly allowances/payments all for a couple of nights bedroom services a month.

Surely beats working at FS shop 10 hours a shift and 5 nights a week.

Ofcourse again, the girl will have to be pretty enough to land a sugar daddy and the pretty ones always do find sponsor/s.

Gucci bro please understand there are other ways for the real pretty Japanese girls to earn cash other than working in a FS shop.

Oneonone
04-02-2014, 08:42 PM
Not in an Asian shop but when I used to go to the Caucasian shops I have seen a Doctor she was from Europe but was waiting on approval to work here. There was another girl I her final year medical she was Australian.

There are plenty of Company Personal assistants and accountants jobs that only attract smart women.

Some of the Asian ladies I have met are very smart, some are studying some are restricted by their English so don't assume a women is not smart just be cause she works in this industry.

Max Impact
04-02-2014, 08:57 PM
Well this is #awkward because bro max impact has named 2 FS shop girls one of whom did work for Ginza as working at Club Grand Hit. I don't see bro Max as being a liar.

Oh dear let's get this straight.

The two TMC girls worked there first, one went straight to Club Grand Hit, the other went to Ginza, then the Club. This was when they wanted to be relatively more good girls.

Neither engaged in FS with any club customers to my knowledge.

Gucci2012
04-02-2014, 10:19 PM
Gucci bro please understand there are other ways for the real pretty Japanese girls to earn cash other than working in a FS shop.

So I said Japanese girls can only make money working in FS shop??? No I didn't.

Did you say you wouldn't find any fs girl including any from Ginza working in club grand hit? Yes you did.

Then did you turn around and say you met a girl at grand hit who used to work at Ginza? Yes you did.

I was just curious about your contradiction?

Gucci2012
04-02-2014, 10:27 PM
Oh dear let's get this straight.

The two TMC girls worked there first, one went straight to Club Grand Hit, the other went to Ginza, then the Club. This was when they wanted to be relatively more good girls.

Neither engaged in FS with any club customers to my knowledge.

Yeah bro I wasn't mixing your words. Bro devilangel was saying you wouldn't find any fs shop girls working at club grand hit. Then I pointed out that you gave 2 examples of real fs shop girls who went from fs to grand hit.

Max Impact
04-02-2014, 10:48 PM
Yeh. I was just generally quoting that part of the thread. All good.

Bracket
04-02-2014, 10:50 PM
... Bro devilangel was saying you wouldn't find any fs shop girls working at club grand hit. Then I pointed out that you gave 2 examples of real fs shop girls who went from fs to grand hit.I read what Devilangel was saying as SOME of the girls are stunners that you wouldn't find at any FS shop including Ginza. The fact that some Ginza girls have worked there merely means that there are other girls there who are far more attractive stunners than they or any other Ginza girls. No contradiction.

I don't really want to be part of this argument so I'll butt out now. :)

Gucci2012
04-02-2014, 11:44 PM
I read what Devilangel was saying as SOME of the girls are stunners that you wouldn't find at any FS shop including Ginza. The fact that some Ginza girls have worked there merely means that there are other girls there who are far more attractive stunners than they or any other Ginza girls. No contradiction.

I don't really want to be part of this argument so I'll butt out now. :)

The contradiction was him saying no FS girls (including ginza club) would be found at club grand hit...then he turns around and says he saw a fs girl there who previously worked at ginza....huge contradiction.

Your right bro don't be apart of this discussion (no ones arguing) and your also right about butting out. :-)

Licker
05-02-2014, 07:18 AM
The contradiction was him saying no FS girls (including ginza club) would be found at club grand hit...then he turns around and says he saw a fs girl there who previously worked at ginza....huge contradiction.

Your right bro don't be apart of this discussion (no ones arguing) and your also right about butting out. :-)

Maybe I can't read as well as you bro, because I can't find that kind of statement in DA's posts; "him saying no FS girls (including ginza club) would be found at club grand hit".

Could you point it out to me?

Gucci2012
05-02-2014, 07:40 AM
Maybe I can't read as well as you bro, because I can't find that kind of statement in DA's posts; "him saying no FS girls (including ginza club) would be found at club grand hit".

Could you point it out to me?

Lol another want to join the discussion?

Let give a run down of what has happened so far....

1st Bro max impact gave to real examples of 2 fs shop girls who went to work at club grand hit.

Bro devilsangel said you wouldn't find any fs girl working at grand hit because they are all stunners.

I pointed out the 2 fs girls bro max impact said went to work there which conflicts with what devilangel said.

Then da says he did see a fs girl working there from Ginza but she wasn't good looking which was the total opposite of what he originally said.

devilangel
05-02-2014, 02:13 PM
Lol another want to join the discussion?

Let give a run down of what has happened so far....

1st Bro max impact gave to real examples of 2 fs shop girls who went to work at club grand hit.

Bro devilsangel said you wouldn't find any fs girl working at grand hit because they are all stunners.

I pointed out the 2 fs girls bro max impact said went to work there which conflicts with what devilangel said.

Then da says he did see a fs girl working there from Ginza but she wasn't good looking which was the total opposite of what he originally said.

Hi bro Gucci,

It seems you really have missed the word "SOME" from my original response.

If you look at your very first response to my post and look into the quote, you will see that I have always said SOME stunners you will not find in ANY FS shops.

As I mentioned before, please read the paragraph PROPERLY.

It is HARD to have to CAPITALISE EVERYTHING just to POINT things out. Especially on a phone.

I guess I shouldn't have bothered to give you a bit of insight on this topic as there's certain hostility from your responses.

Was it because I mentioned Ginza club? It was merely a personal opinion that even Ginza, a top J girl shop in Sydney, would not be able to recruit these top notch J girls as they're happily working in Grand Hit and going out buying expensive bags with their sugar daddies.

Perhaps I should take you along to Grand Hit. It will certainly make you relaxed.

Gucci2012
05-02-2014, 04:51 PM
Hi bro Gucci,

It seems you really have missed the word "SOME" from my original response.

If you look at your very first response to my post and look into the quote, you will see that I have always said SOME stunners you will not find in ANY FS shops.

As I mentioned before, please read the paragraph PROPERLY.

It is HARD to have to CAPITALISE EVERYTHING just to POINT things out. Especially on a phone.

I guess I shouldn't have bothered to give you a bit of insight on this topic as there's certain hostility from your responses.

Was it because I mentioned Ginza club? It was merely a personal opinion that even Ginza, a top J girl shop in Sydney, would not be able to recruit these top notch J girls as they're happily working in Grand Hit and going out buying expensive bags with their sugar daddies.

Perhaps I should take you along to Grand Hit. It will certainly make you relaxed.

Thanks for the offer bro devil but I experienced enough Japanese pussy and companionship in the last 3years then you would have access to in 10 life times. Hostilities?? just 2 guys having a discussion. If you want examples of real hostilities on this forum look at the exchanges between guys like ahlungor, jellyshots and the dramas they had with 8inches....that's hostilities.

Your insights are valuable and cherished. There's a lot of guys who talk but never contribute 1 AR with specific details: who what where when how why? I'm always suspicious of guys who talk in general and give no details to validate that their experiences were real.

devilangel
05-02-2014, 10:48 PM
Thanks for the offer bro devil but I experienced enough Japanese pussy and companionship in the last 3years then you would have access to in 10 life times. Hostilities?? just 2 guys having a discussion. If you want examples of real hostilities on this forum look at the exchanges between guys like ahlungor, jellyshots and the dramas they had with 8inches....that's hostilities.

Your insights are valuable and cherished. There's a lot of guys who talk but never contribute 1 AR with specific details: who what where when how why? I'm always suspicious of guys who talk in general and give no details to validate that their experiences were real.

Gucci,

Well obviously I've hurt your feelings by pointing out you've thrown these tantrums all for nothing because you misread a paragraph and thought your favourite shops is under attack.

Let's not brush off the fact that you accused me of many things that I did not say.

When other members pointed this out, you were rude enough to tell them to butt out.

Now you're having the little man syndrome by claiming you've had more of this experience and more of that pussy. Good job.

Hostility is hostility and you definitly can't seem to handle any constructive feedback without going into self protective mode.

I wonder how much tandrum you would throw if I do post an AR about Ginza, because all my visits at ginza have been very disappointing in the looks department. Service is good though.

Also tell your best mate wilson he needs to change the beds and put proper sheets for customers. The beds were nice when new but now it's all run down and filthy dirty without proper sheets to cover the ugly girls' faces.

Gucci2012
06-02-2014, 05:08 AM
Gucci,

Well obviously I've hurt your feelings by pointing out you've thrown these tantrums all for nothing because you misread a paragraph and thought your favourite shops is under attack.

Let's not brush off the fact that you accused me of many things that I did not say.

When other members pointed this out, you were rude enough to tell them to butt out.

Now you're having the little man syndrome by claiming you've had more of this experience and more of that pussy. Good job.

Hostility is hostility and you definitly can't seem to handle any constructive feedback without going into self protective mode.

I wonder how much tandrum you would throw if I do post an AR about Ginza, because all my visits at ginza have been very disappointing in the looks department. Service is good though.

Also tell your best mate wilson he needs to change the beds and put proper sheets for customers. The beds were nice when new but now it's all run down and filthy dirty without proper sheets to cover the ugly girls' faces.

Lolololol you just revealed yourself. All this because you hate Ginza. Leave me alone if you have genuine issues take it up with them not me. If you can name girls that you thought were ugly name them. But we both no you won't.

devilangel
06-02-2014, 09:20 AM
Lolololol you just revealed yourself. All this because you hate Ginza. Leave me alone if you have genuine issues take it up with them not me. If you can name girls that you thought were ugly name them. But we both no you won't.

Now you're making things up again. I never said I hate Ginza.

I like Ginza and in fact, I said Ginza is a top J girl shop in Sydney in my previos post.

All they need is proper bed sheets and prettier girls that's really size 6.

You should stop imagining everything is an attack on you or your favoirite shop.

Also be very careful because you're showing all signs of depression. First there was denial, then anger and followed bargaining. Typical stages of any form of depression.

I strongly suggest you seek professional help and have yourself checked out, among other things.

But we both "know" you won't.

By the way, don't drag the Ginza girls into the "discussion" when you can't come up with any valid points. It just seems unresponsible, unethical and I am sure they would appreciate not to be named in such a healthy "discussion".

Gucci2012
06-02-2014, 12:24 PM
Now you're making things up again. I never said I hate Ginza.

I like Ginza and in fact, I said Ginza is a top J girl shop in Sydney in my previos post.

All they need is proper bed sheets and prettier girls that's really size 6.

You should stop imagining everything is an attack on you or your favoirite shop.

Also be very careful because you're showing all signs of depression. First there was denial, then anger and followed bargaining. Typical stages of any form of depression.

I strongly suggest you seek professional help and have yourself checked out, among other things.

But we both "know" you won't.

By the way, don't drag the Ginza girls into the "discussion" when you can't come up with any valid points. It just seems unresponsible, unethical and I am sure they would appreciate not to be named in such a healthy "discussion".

I don't think your a current Ginza customer so when you start talking specifics about who is ugly and when you saw them come back to me. You talk big but can't even do 1 ar about this apparent 1 girl you've seen.

devilangel
06-02-2014, 01:25 PM
I don't think your a current Ginza customer so when you start talking specifics about who is ugly and when you saw them come back to me. You talk big but can't even do 1 ar about this apparent 1 girl you've seen.

That's all you have left? After all the false accusations and now asking me to come back to you when I can name a girl from the roster page? It seems you do have trouble reading whole paragraphs as well as incoherent in logic.

This also seems to be the acceptance stage. Please seek professional help on possible depression symptoms. Though I don't believe they have medicines for little man syndrome. It's uncurable like idiocy, which ironically is the prime reason for the little man syndrome that you're suffering.

PS. "your" instead of you're? Really? That's not the first time I've carefully corrected you.

At least learn to use proper grammar before you want to randomly pick on someone so they will treat you seriously. Otherwise it's just like a bad joke.

20cm
06-02-2014, 01:41 PM
D.A you should know better than to pick on those less fortunate than you.
Take it easy on these guys man, it's obvious what's going on here and your points have been proven over and over again.



That's all you have left? After all the false accusations and now asking me to come back to you when I can name a girl from the roster page? It seems you do have trouble reading whole paragraphs as well as incoherent in logic.

This also seems to be the acceptance stage. Please seek professional help on possible depression symptoms. Though I don't believe they have medicines for little man syndrome. It's uncurable like idiocy, which ironically is the prime reason for the little man syndrome that you're suffering.

PS. "your" instead of you're? Really? That's not the first time I've carefully corrected you.

At least learn to use proper grammar before you want to randomly pick on someone so they will treat you seriously. Otherwise it's just like a bad joke.

devilangel
06-02-2014, 01:45 PM
D.A you should know better than to pick on those less fortunate than you.
Take it easy on these guys man, it's obvious what's going on here and your points have been proven over and over again.

20cm,

Fair enough. I wil stop now.

Take it easy Gucci.

Gucci2012
06-02-2014, 04:24 PM
20cm,

Fair enough. I wil stop now.

Take it easy Gucci.

You haven't proven anything and you won't stop. I've been taking easy from the beginning. Im glad you and 20 ate friends you guys are pretty much the same....big talk with no specifics and no AR's, just vague insights on things you probably just copy and paste.

20cm
06-02-2014, 04:53 PM
[QUOTE=Gucci2012;463043]Thanks for the offer bro devil but I experienced enough Japanese pussyand companionship in the last 3years then you would have access to in 10 life times.

Ever so humble Gucci.

Gucci2012
06-02-2014, 08:00 PM
[QUOTE=Gucci2012;463043]Thanks for the offer bro devil but I experienced enough Japanese pussyand companionship in the last 3years then you would have access to in 10 life times.

Ever so humble Gucci.

When you start doing AR's about real punts you can be humble as well.

Gucci2012
06-02-2014, 09:35 PM
R.I.P 20cm I'm still here laughing and dancing like said I would but we both knew I'd still be here and you'd eventually be defeated and banned. Don't get up stay down. Know your place. Sweet dreams.

Gucci2012
08-02-2014, 01:11 AM
Do you want to see club grand hit product without going inside??? There must be no down stairs private ventilated smoking area, the girls and customers have to smoke outside.

The 2 I saw looked ok, nice hair and make up, but a little chubby. Big Asian bouncer outside.

womanisa
31-03-2014, 01:02 AM
I went to Club Grand Hit back in 2011 after been recommended by a big boobed Chinese female friend who grew up in Japan, and she actually went there for "business" talks.

I don't think there are any restrictions to get in, you don't need to speak japanese. The manager back then was a Chinese dude named Patrick. We had 4 blokes and paid around $2000 with 4-5 girls. Which is reasonable compared to paying $1000 for 2 Chinese/HK girls at Sugar and $1200 for 3 Korean girls at W room. We didn't even finish our bottle of whiskey so they kept it for us and my friend went back there another day to finish it.

You are allowed to take photos here. I picked a busty hostess called Reina, but when she was absent I had Yukari as a fill in. I got 2 numbers and took a few selfies. Also coped a few leg feels and boob squeezes but can't reach nipple since their evening gowns are too tight. They later sms'ed me to go back again but I got the feeling they won't gonna sleep with you unless you tip a few hundred.

Looks wise you can get a rough idea looking at their website which contain all hostess photos without face. When you first walk in and see 20-30 hot japanese girls in low cut evening gowns you can be quite blown away, but upon closer look makeups play a big part. I've seen some of them going clubbing together and looked pretty average without heels nor evening dresses. The makeup style of my hostess was similar to Momoka from Ginza: tanned and heavy lashes. I actually joked with Momoka that she should get a job there as a hostess but she said she doesn't want night jobs to avoid suspicion from her landlord.

Anyway just my 2 cents. Was actually looking for random keyword searches but came across this thread and thought I'd contribute.

Gucci2012
09-09-2014, 10:59 PM
Well this place is officially open to non Japanese now. Don't if the owners had a change of heart about types of guests allowed entry or the liquor restrictions in the c.b.d have affected their trade but now everyone is welcome...

Max Impact
10-09-2014, 01:36 AM
I was invited there by Maki/Iku and Nice Impact when they worked there. I declined being a lonely westerner amongst the Tokyo boys.