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MrSeven
30-12-2012, 10:42 AM
Hey bros,

Question.. Why do you think some asian WL's refuse to see white guys?

I'm thinking a few reasons, and perhaps its different in each case..

1) the language barrier
2) white guys tend to have bigger dicks and thus can do more damage or perhaps cause pain for the WL
3) white guys tend to be drunk, less well behaved, less respectful
4) some girls just like to mix with their own kind
5) theyre only find asian guys attractive

Thoughts?

8inches
30-12-2012, 11:30 AM
This question has been asked since the pyramids were being built.
I'm a white guy and don't waste my time with shops that allow such policy
Fair enough if a girl wants to refuse a customer on an individual basis but to blanket a no white guy rule across the board while you're working in australia doesn't make sense to me at all.
those racist bitches can go f&$k themselves.
Enough said

rooter
30-12-2012, 11:33 AM
Two guys called 8inches and Mr Seven wondering why some Asian girls won't see them.
Classic ;)

8inches
30-12-2012, 11:35 AM
I dont wonder because i dont care


Two guys called 8inches and Mr Seven wondering why some Asian girls won't see them.
Classic ;)

rooter
30-12-2012, 11:39 AM
I dont wonder because i dont care

Not an issue for me either if some Asian girls won't see caucasian guys. There are so many Asian WLs in Sydney, that if some choose not to see caucasian guys it's no drama, we just move on to one that does. Problem solved.

project_manager006
30-12-2012, 11:46 AM
This question has been asked since the pyramids were being built.
I'm a white guy and don't waste my time with shops that allow such policy
Fair enough if a girl wants to refuse a customer on an individual basis but to blanket a no white guy rule across the board while you're working in australia doesn't make sense to me at all.
those racist bitches can go f&$k themselves.
Enough said

There's only one shop I know of with such a policy.

8inches
30-12-2012, 11:47 AM
good point there are plenty of fish in the punting sea.
I refuse to believe its based on dick size, I am sure some asian guys have big thick cocks just as some white and black guys have small and thin cocks.
Cock size is just a generalization. Just like pussy tightness, I've seen a petite asian wl that has a canyon cunt, while others can be so tight that it hurts me to go in them.




Not an issue for me either if some Asian girls won't see caucasian guys. There are so many Asian WLs in Sydney, that if some choose not to see caucasian guys it's no drama, we just move on to one that does. Problem solved.

rooter
30-12-2012, 12:04 PM
good point there are plenty of fish in the punting sea.
I refuse to believe its based on dick size, I am sure some asian guys have big thick cocks just as some white and black guys have small and thin cocks.
Cock size is just a generalization. Just like pussy tightness, I've seen a petite asian wl that has a canyon cunt, while others can be so tight that it hurts me to go in them.

brothels should have a variation those cardboard cut outs like they have in amusement parks that say "you have to be at least this tall to ride on this ride" but it would be a cardboard cut out that says "if your cock is longer than this you can't see our girls" or "if your cock wont fit through this hole you can't see our girls" ;)

splash
30-12-2012, 12:08 PM
Common reason is due to their roughness in sex... I guess some caucasians spoiled it for the rest of their brothers who are actually cassanovas in bed.

And yes, point number 4 is also another reason, connect better with people of their own kind. Yes, some people just want to fuck, but the girls want to talk also and feel comfortable servicing people they can click with.

Sometimes I just want to tell people on this forum to get a girlfriend so they don't have to complain/ask/wonder about this shit.

Littlewonder
30-12-2012, 02:23 PM
If a girl doesnt want to see me cause I am Caucasian then thats OK with me its her loss I will just continute to see the long list of Asian beauties that are happy to see me.

cisco
30-12-2012, 02:41 PM
Because the WL have the rights to say NO, plenty flowers why headache about a girl dont see white guys? Make it easy , why have to be this hard? Its a same apply and same feeling when i told you to eat rice and noodle for your breakfast instead of bread or sandwich , will you eat rice for your breakfast ? You will answer me NO right? Different people got different personality bro

River
30-12-2012, 04:37 PM
I don't fat chicks. It's a preference thing. Ha.

cisco
30-12-2012, 05:06 PM
Why some caucasian girls don't go with asian boys ? The answer will be there too

cisco
30-12-2012, 05:08 PM
This question has been asked since the pyramids were being built.
I'm a white guy and don't waste my time with shops that allow such policy
Fair enough if a girl wants to refuse a customer on an individual basis but to blanket a no white guy rule across the board while you're working in australia doesn't make sense to me at all.
those racist bitches can go f&$k themselves.
Enough said

Then lets go for caucasian girls

cisco
30-12-2012, 05:15 PM
Common reason is due to their roughness in sex... I guess some caucasians spoiled it for the rest of their brothers who are actually cassanovas in bed.

And yes, point number 4 is also another reason, connect better with people of their own kind. Yes, some people just want to fuck, but the girls want to talk also and feel comfortable servicing people they can click with.

Sometimes I just want to tell people on this forum to get a girlfriend so they don't have to complain/ask/wonder about this shit.

Well said bro

lonewolf77
30-12-2012, 05:54 PM
This question has been asked since the pyramids were being built.
I'm a white guy and don't waste my time with shops that allow such policy
Fair enough if a girl wants to refuse a customer on an individual basis but to blanket a no white guy rule across the board while you're working in australia doesn't make sense to me at all.
those racist bitches can go f&$k themselves.
Enough said

I agree with you 100%, its all about racism, nothing else whatsoever. And really they should not be in australia or doing a service oriented job if they want to make decisions based on race. We are not asking for love or marriage but a service based on cash. I dont know why shops allow them to act this way and why people visit those shops. To sin by silence when we should protest makes cowards out of men.

This whole idea of roughness or cock size is a joke and an excuse put forward by shops and WLs. Are you going to tell me asian girls pussys are so small ....excuse me they have babies just like all other women do. Pussys are designed to enlarge and can accommodate any size. The length can be a different story, but there are many other short girls, not just asians. It should really be about checking the size and then deciding, at least that would be semi-ok but to just have this blanket....its just racism pure and simple. Sick of people trying to explain it or excuse it.

All men can be rough or unhygienic or the opposite. You going to tell me there is no such thing as asian men being rough in the sack? why are there so much asian porn / japanese porn which fantasizes about those kinds of things? I think those excuses are not only demeaning for non asian men but also demeaning for all men / including asian men. As they are saying asian men are soft and cuddly and have small dicks and smell like girls? what the, are they saying all asian men are feminine.

Sorry if those post seems harsh, i dont mean to be and i dont really want to hurt anyone's feelings or am trying to put anyone down. I just feel its wrong and people should not be scared to come out and say so. It is only for one reason and that is not a good reason and should not be accepted in this country or by its people. Sometimes there is no such thing as being on the fence or an innocent bystander. What i mean is the people who stand on the fence have made a choice and that is to condone or through in action allow specific behaviour. This was a very common topic based on WW2 and hitler. A lot of people did not agree with his viewpoints or his comments but chose to not intervene or sit on the fence as they didnt want to offend or do anything even if their principles said otherwise.

Littlewonder
30-12-2012, 06:30 PM
I think the girls that have this attitude are the young Asian girls and its because they dont know any better, as for the shop to foster this it is ignorance on their part and they are only doing it to keep the young girls happy. When they all wake up and realise Caucasian men in most cases can be gentle men in the bed room and good for business then they will all be better off. There are always going to be men who dont know how to treat a lady and they can be of any race, but look in this forum and see how much the girls Asian ones like caucausian men and appreciate there business.

chandra_man1
30-12-2012, 08:24 PM
girls come to work as in their own free will. they will want to do what is in their own interest to protect their asset.(their pussy)

it is obvious isn't it ? its not racism.

Gucci2012
30-12-2012, 08:47 PM
Isn't Asian wl's preferring Asian clients the natural order of events...in this country. I mean this country was built on racism?

Every one knows aboriginal people are the first people of this land and look how they got treated and discriminated against. White Australia's origins came by boats, so I'll probably get smashed for saying this but its pretty laughable to hear Caucasian brothers say get out of our country when its not really theirs. I'm just saying....

Wayne
30-12-2012, 08:48 PM
well said both lonewolf77 and littlewonder. Young Asians, who were not brought up in Australia, are racist. The prevailing view that Aussies are dirty is pure racism. What is an Aussie? What is dirty? Hongkies, Japanese, Koreans and the silly Chinese nouveau riche have such a sheltered, warped upbringing that so many retain cleanliness fetishes. It is good to be hygienic and aware of cleanliness. It is quite another matter to be obsessive about it and rude to those who don't share your hangups. Perhaps racist is too strong a word; but these precious petite princesses at places, such as the popular parlour perpetually parleyed on this piazza, are certainly ill-mannered and callow.

rooter
30-12-2012, 09:05 PM
Holiday season? Slow news day? Noone punting and doing ARs because they have no money left for punting after Xmas shopping?
Its a sure bet this old topic gets the cobwebs dusted off and comes up again.
Travelmate should put it in his daily tips at $1.01

River
30-12-2012, 09:12 PM
Next time u get a lady say "no" just ask. All we're doing is conjecture. If the truth is what u seek, bark up the right tree

wilisno
30-12-2012, 09:54 PM
Isn't Asian wl's preferring Asian clients the natural order of events...in this country. I mean this country was built on racism?

Every one knows aboriginal people are the first people of this land and look how they got treated and discriminated against. White Australia's origins came by boats, so I'll probably get smashed for saying this but its pretty laughable to hear Caucasian brothers say get out of our country when its not really theirs. I'm just saying....
Well said Gucci !

And just that it's not in Asian nature to whinge about descrimination, but I can assure you that it happens the other way round too, before I discovered Asian shops, I've been refused service 3 times by white girls.

Bracket
30-12-2012, 10:20 PM
... but these precious petite princesses at places, such as the popular parlour perpetually parleyed on this piazza, are certainly ill-mannered and callow.A nicely alliterative turn of phrase, Wayne, despite "ill-mannered and callow", which my thesaurus doesn't have any "p" suggestions for either.

cisco
30-12-2012, 10:33 PM
Isn't Asian wl's preferring Asian clients the natural order of events...in this country. I mean this country was built on racism?

Every one knows aboriginal people are the first people of this land and look how they got treated and discriminated against. White Australia's origins came by boats, so I'll probably get smashed for saying this but its pretty laughable to hear Caucasian brothers say get out of our country when its not really theirs. I'm just saying....

100% agreed

project_manager006
30-12-2012, 10:39 PM
well said both lonewolf77 and littlewonder. Young Asians, who were not brought up in Australia, are racist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo0mID6J2S8

cisco
30-12-2012, 10:46 PM
How about lets us think in other way ? The answer will be same , talking about this matter will be never end. Lets find girls who see everyone , plenty flower in the garden. Its not about racism ,the WL have their own reason . Who knows ? And Just remember not everybody Perfect , please respect others or WL decision if they dont want to see caucasian.

boater
30-12-2012, 11:04 PM
A shop should not tolerating this attitude?

Sorry, but I never want to have sex with a woman who is not happy to have sex with me. No thanks. I have no interest in a shop insisting she see me if she doesn't want to. The whole idea makes my skin crawl ...

How can it be fun to be naked with a woman who is only there because the shop management insisted she get naked with me?

From my point of view a woman who put a blanket ban on Caucasians are missing out on some really good experiences, but it is her choice and her loss.

It can be inconvenient to hop along after making a booking and making sure on the phone the lady was happy to have a Caucasian client, then to not have her show up and be told later its because I was a white guy - but that is better than showing up and having sex with someone who really did not want to be there. That sort of management failure (saying its OK when it was not) is a pretty good reason to put that shop at the bottom of the pile, but the alternative is what?

Sex with a woman who really really does not want to be in my arms?

Not for this little black duck ...

Boater

rooter
30-12-2012, 11:05 PM
I think we need to take a step back put this debate into perspective guys.
There is only one shop that I know of in all of Sydney that has an Asian only policy. And there are only a handful of Asian WLs scatered across a few agencies and shops that have an Asian only policy.
99% of Asian shops, agencies and WLs welcome Asian and non Asian punters alike.
Caucasian guys who want to see Asian girls have plenty of options. Sydney is a punters paradise with WLs of every nationality available. There are hundreds of shops agencies and WLs available.

chandra_man1
30-12-2012, 11:15 PM
Are u referring to a korean shop? how much does that place charge now? havent been there for 2 years

AHLUNGOR
30-12-2012, 11:32 PM
The title says white guys, but my mail told me otherwise.

I have known a few FS WLs who had all told me the same thing and I better not reveal everything here otherwise I will be offending too many brothers.

From what I was told (by the way, these are not the shops who don't serve white guys - just the preferences and private complaining from the WLs.) They are OK with white Anglo Saxon clients, there are other clients from three very specific races that they hated to serve.........................and I am not naming them here. And the reasons have nothng much to do with dick size either, it's more the rough behaviours, bad BO and disrespectful to the WLs.

Now, I am sure there are very gentle and respectful and well behaved people from these ethnic backgrounds who also look after their personal hygiene as well. But there are always some bad apples from every communities ...............lol

Just my two cents

Cheers

:cool2:

km2000
30-12-2012, 11:38 PM
Thats why 5* asked if i was asian or not

cisco
30-12-2012, 11:45 PM
Thats why 5* asked if i was asian or not
Just go to the shop ,If you are at the waiting room at 5* then you will see many different nationality people there waiting for the line up, so?

km2000
30-12-2012, 11:48 PM
This was for penthouse apparently

MrSeven
31-12-2012, 12:05 AM
I didn't find it racist at all that there were some asian WL's at 5 star that are asian-only. And you'll see i never mentioned racism in the list at the top. It just made me want these off-limit girls more. I want something i can't have.

And also, it kinda dinted the ego a bit. I know my worth, and it kind of felt like a shut down. Especially given Hebe and Moon sound super hot and experienced.. and yet, i will NEVER get the chance to fuck them let alone SEE them with my own eyes.

I know i know, i shouldn't be whinging, they're 2 little fish in a massive pond of WL's from all races and i should be thankful that i'm spoilt for choice..... but even still......... there aren't plenty of good shops with quality girls, like 5 star.

cisco
31-12-2012, 12:06 AM
Its a normal question even i make a call to others agency sometimes they will ask me the same question, its not a big deal for me. Its ok

MrSeven
31-12-2012, 12:09 AM
I just think if Hebe or Moon met me, they'd be wanting to fuck. Not to talk myself up but seriously, i know 100% they're not saying no cos they're not into me.

But I totally agree with you boys about the point about if a girl isn't into you, whats good about fucking them or the shop forcing them to fuck you. Totally agree with that.

MrSeven
31-12-2012, 12:12 AM
Maybe you have a stronger plate of armor than me cisco. I wish it wasn't a big deal for me. It's not big, it's just an issue i wanted to raise and here my brothers thoughts on it.

chandra_man1
31-12-2012, 12:13 AM
Yeh you said it. stop whinging. Hebe and Moon sound super hot but until u see them u don't know. everyone has different intepretation of super hot. I've seen them and most of the 5 Starrers, I say the koreans at 5* are hotter than the malaysians there. Obviously everyone has different taste.

slarty
31-12-2012, 12:15 AM
Totally agree with what Boater says, who wants to have intimate contact or service from someone who doesn't want to do it? Regardless of the reason and I'm ok with that. It's the WLs body and your body either one can choose who they go with.

As for Ahlungor's feedback I've also heard occasional complaints from WLs about two particular nationalities (which of course I wont mention here either). Of course any WL/ML that is with me obviously has no problem with me or my ethnicity. If they did chances are I wouldn't have been able to go with them in the first place :)

That after all is all I'd expect as a punter. If the girl has some sort of problem with me try and make herself unavailable somehow (eg 'has a booking' or send out another girl) to avoid embarrassment.

MrSeven
31-12-2012, 12:44 AM
Chandra i agree,i find the koreans hotter too.. their bodies, their modifications, i just think they know how to present themselves sexier and sluttier.
BUT i find their service usually lacks compared to malaysian or chinese. Must be a deeper cultural thing because thats pretty true generally speaking.
I just like the fact hebe sucks cock like a mean mother fucker. And i'd like to try it out. Not even penetration just want to know how good she is at oral.

chandra_man1
31-12-2012, 01:08 AM
Well u lucked out with Hebe and other malays at 5*. Want an equally good deep throat cock sucker try Misha at GF. She is definitely one of the hottest korean WL at the moment

Richboy
31-12-2012, 03:07 AM
The answer, are you prepared to eat deep fried rats, cows penis boiled in soup or dried croaches? Every wl has a preference and nothing to do with race. Getting a wl to fuck you against their will is an indictable offence called "rape".

project_manager006
31-12-2012, 06:25 AM
To have sexual preferences and attraction based on race is not racism.

altgourami
31-12-2012, 08:18 AM
Aussies: Dumb, drunk and rascist.

8inches
31-12-2012, 09:01 AM
Aussies: Dumb, drunk and rascist.
What a pathetic generalization.
Don't be angry :smile:

rooter
31-12-2012, 09:06 AM
Aussies: Dumb, drunk and rascist.

Is it really necessary to put up posts like this?
I am all for free speech but comments like this don't contribute anything constructive to the debate and just inflame things.
This forum is used by punters from all backgrounds and we all get along OK. We have some great debates and thats a good thing.
but this sort of comment isn't helpful to anyone, Asian, Caucasian or other.
The original post was about some WLs who don't see non Asians. This is not really a big issue in Sydney. If some WLs choose not to see non Asians I respect their choice. Its their body and they can choose who they give it up to.
Non Asian guys have plenty of other choices in Sydney.
If you want to keep debating the issue fair enough, though as I said I don't think its a big issue.
but please lets not let the debate descend to this level

lonewolf77
31-12-2012, 09:26 AM
For the record i am not white but a sri lankan guy but i dont look south asian. I look south american or african or sometimes an islander from what most people try to take a guess.

To continue, you think there arent some aussies who are racist..of course there are, but do you think it was / is accepted... NO! As the guy who posted the youtube video trying to prove a point actually proves my point. See all the comments, it is not accepted.... Yet we are told to accept it but only in this regard... I dont accept racism in any form. If you have sexual preference or make a judgement call BASED purely on the skin colour / culture and / or race THEN YOU ARE A RACIST. pure and simple, there is no well i am attracted to everyone but white people or everyone but arabs. I am sorry..its racism. Have i done things like that in the past myself ...yes i have, do i know consider my behaviour inappropriate to generalise by race and hence put them all in the same bracket yes i do.. Do i condone my behaviour..HELL NO. Is it hard to change or fix..of course it is, the harder it gets the longer you have believed in it or have a society / people around you that push it..

Sorry but Asian countries including my home country and india / pakistan etc are the racist countries / people in the world. Do we have to accept that or can we educate and help them to recognise that you judge a person and Say NO to a person based on the person, not on the country.... My home country has been going through a civil war for more than 30 years... my parents left my country because we were the minority and were being attacked economically and physically by the majority. We left to nigeria....which became a very unsafe country...then we went to brunei which became quite a racist country too and did not want foreigners in there after a while... We were also in england for a short while and a couple of other places..all before i was 11 when i came here.

I encounted racism here as well. i have been spat on multiple times in australia and brunei. The racism i encountered here was bullying at school and at home we had some incidents of people breaking glass bottles on our front porch and other things. My parents were very hard working and hence we built a large 2 storey house in a suburb that was just becoming affluent and hence most of the houses were still single storey but land was going up...

Racism is all around us and frankly it gets in the way of what humans can really achieve or accomplish together. anyway i digress.

I dont think a shop should force someone to work or to stop being racist, i think a shop should NOT EMPLOY someone who cannot perform the shop's duties due to racism. It is actually illegal for a company to refuse service based purely on race or culture or religion and yet in this one format it is perfectly accepted by people on this forum. Why...because they look at it differently or think of it differently but does it still change what is happening. And if its accepted in this situation, then doesnt that mean the WLs who are making the racist calls, might not in time be racist in other ways in other areas? Then will they not pass this on to the people in their society and their children? The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Have i been the odd man out with WLs who were racist, yes, and i have gone out with girls who have been racist. Including one asian bird who was a nice girl and had come here after some hardship from her home country, but used to tell me all the time (as a compliment / flattery) that she normally wouldnt go out with someone of my colour as my colour means we are dirtier... Apparently she believed the darker your skin the dirtier you actually are...by her thinking i used to wonder if that meant she thought i was dark because i didnt wash my self enough when i was a baby....But she meant it as a compliment because she used to always tell me but you are different because you shower so much and always smell nice and have soft skin etc etc... Still it was the biggest turn off till i just had to end it, i couldnt handle those kinds of comments.

Educated or not, if no-one does anything but just stands by and let it happen then you are promoting it and stopping the offenders from even recognising their behaviour and stopping them from growing or learning and improving themselves through education and self diagnosis. I know for a fact that indians (which i suppose would include me as i will be considered the same if they knew i was from sri lanka although most never guess that by looking at me) and middle eastern men are thought of as not being hygienic / smelly etc... And to an extent they are right, but what part are they right about. They arent right about the majority who have grown up here or in other western countries and / or have learnt some of the things we have learnt.

The few cousins i have left in my home country in sri lanka dont know about deodorant or cologne...they actually dont.. They use soap and powder, thats it. I had to teach them about those other things. Where my cousins lived, they only had a well to bath from, i would assume they only had a wash once a day. Then again i know in french culture showering is meant to be more like once every 2-3 days but they use a lot more cologne etc. I would say a lot of the indians mentioned by WLs would be the indian students as we have a massive influx of them over the past several years, and they probably dont know about deodorant and cologne either. Scent does not necessarily mean hygienic or otherwise but it can imply it.

See me, smell me, check me out then reject me...fine, will be a blow to my ego but fine i will get over it in time..Reject me before you see how clean or nice i am..reject me before you see my smile or how i treat you and you hurt me forever. Because i cant change what you reject me for, i cant improve it, i cant learn to do better, i cant fix it. I dont even really know why you reject me, just that the way i was born and the parents i had and the country i am from is not good enough for you.....

kickass
31-12-2012, 11:17 AM
If you think Aussies are racist just go to a S E Asian country and see how you get on. Westerners are charged a premium. Japan is probably the most racist country I've ever been to. If you're not born Japanese you never will be.

DeepImpact
31-12-2012, 03:54 PM
Well said Gucci !

And just that it's not in Asian nature to whinge about descrimination, .

Hey Bro, It's always interesting to find out about how different cultures work and interact with each other. Is there a particular peer reviewed study that found that Asian people don't whinge about descrimination as I am sure it would be fascinating reading for us all? I would be interested to read it.

wilisno
31-12-2012, 06:16 PM
Hey Bro, It's always interesting to find out about how different cultures work and interact with each other. Is there a particular peer reviewed study that found that Asian people don't whinge about descrimination as I am sure it would be fascinating reading for us all? I would be interested to read it.
It's only my opinion and my observation on this subject, because we don't find complaints of this kind on any forums, but it's easily found here !

I'm not the authority on this subject, if you think differently, you can do your own research and publish your findings here !

kickass
01-01-2013, 04:20 PM
People who complain about racism are those who think they can get something or some benefit from it. Most Asians are hard working, resourceful and inventive. They simply work around the racism and still get what they want. I have a mate who complains about Asians all driving Mercs and Beemers. He quickly shut up when I reminded him that he jerked his way through highschool, dropped out of uni, and now works as a storeman and packer who pisses his pay packet up against the wall each Friday night.

altgourami
01-01-2013, 05:39 PM
Aussies: Dumb, drunk and rascist.

I WAS JOKING

I am an Aussie - the excellent Joe Hildebrand hosted a show called exactly this on SBS in the second half of 2012.

chandra_man1
01-01-2013, 05:46 PM
lets end this topic.

for another 3 month till the next aussie ask why some asian whores dont fuck white cocks

MrSeven
01-01-2013, 06:22 PM
Hahaha very funny chandra.

cisco
01-01-2013, 06:33 PM
You guys won't see any rasism in the movie but some in the real life yes

rooter
01-01-2013, 06:43 PM
lets end this topic.

for another 3 month till the next aussie ask why some asian whores dont fuck white cocks

Yep it will come up again on the next slow news day.
I predict Easter, Good Friday ;)

Travelmate
01-01-2013, 06:49 PM
Dick to BIG!

ethanhunter
01-01-2013, 11:20 PM
Yep it will come up again on the next slow news day.
I predict Easter, Good Friday ;)

Maybe everyone saves his comments to be reused when it comes up again?

dannyboy
02-01-2013, 11:41 AM
Im white and Im attracted to asian girls, I also find asian girls like me, everyone has a preference..

stevodog
02-01-2013, 01:54 PM
it works both ways. I know Asian girls who won't go out with Asian guys. That's good for me.

lonewolf77
02-01-2013, 01:54 PM
I am attracted to attractive girls, not to any particular race, i am not sure how a race can make a girl automatically attractive or vice versa. Of course some races in general can have a higher proportion of the kind of girls you may be attracted to but making a blanket statement..i think that is still a form of racial generalisation. I know many friends from different races attracted to asian girls, I dont condone or am not really happy with some of their "reasons" why they are attracted to them. I dont want to go into the whole thing here, but i find some of it quite wrong and racist. As far as i can tell, there are attractive girls from all races, there would be a type of girl each guy is attracted to...petite, busty, short, tall, facial structure, body structure, hairy, not hairy, etc etc. Some races can more fit into that but that doesnt mean everyone in that race does nor does it mean that all the other races dont have girls that wont fit exactly into that criteria. Watch Victoria's secret or better yet watch Miss Universe, almost all races will have girls who can be tall, lean, angular facial structure / heart shaped face etc etc...So why rule out all races but one or even just think you only like this race or that race...Cant you see the minute you even consider bringing race into it, it is then a racial preference.

dannyboy
02-01-2013, 02:11 PM
Im also an equal opportunity punter

Travelmate
02-01-2013, 03:57 PM
I am attracted to attractive girls, not to any particular race, i am not sure how a race can make a girl automatically attractive or vice versa. Of course some races in general can have a higher proportion of the kind of girls you may be attracted to but making a blanket statement..i think that is still a form of racial generalisation. I know many friends from different races attracted to asian girls, I dont condone or am not really happy with some of their "reasons" why they are attracted to them. I dont want to go into the whole thing here, but i find some of it quite wrong and racist. As far as i can tell, there are attractive girls from all races, there would be a type of girl each guy is attracted to...petite, busty, short, tall, facial structure, body structure, hairy, not hairy, etc etc. Some races can more fit into that but that doesnt mean everyone in that race does nor does it mean that all the other races dont have girls that wont fit exactly into that criteria. Watch Victoria's secret or better yet watch Miss Universe, almost all races will have girls who can be tall, lean, angular facial structure / heart shaped face etc etc...So why rule out all races but one or even just think you only like this race or that race...Cant you see the minute you even consider bringing race into it, it is then a racial preference.

good summary .... like wise

Revvedup
02-01-2013, 05:58 PM
Some of the rants and jousting that comes up in this forum is the best stuff i read anywhere year in year out. Newspaper, internet, conversation, all of it.. it's gold here sometimes. Gotta remember to guys, as much as it might have been thrown around before.. some (like me) are new to the forum and might not have argued these points or offered comments in all categories.. And recent, current, live opinion is what we all want, not doing a search of the forum history and retrieving 12 month old stuff.

I'd love to have a beer with Lonewolfe, you've got heart mate.

Those incidents reflected in the video make me sick and angry at the same time and im as aussie as a vegemite sandwich. It is nigh on impossible because of your upbringing, but i genuinely, actively try to treat all based on behaviour and personality.. blankets and putting everyone in the same corner is just blind.

AHLUNGOR
02-01-2013, 06:10 PM
I am attracted to attractive girls, not to any particular race, i am not sure how a race can make a girl automatically attractive or vice versa. Of course some races in general can have a higher proportion of the kind of girls you may be attracted to but making a blanket statement..i think that is still a form of racial generalisation. I know many friends from different races attracted to asian girls, I dont condone or am not really happy with some of their "reasons" why they are attracted to them. I dont want to go into the whole thing here, but i find some of it quite wrong and racist. As far as i can tell, there are attractive girls from all races, there would be a type of girl each guy is attracted to...petite, busty, short, tall, facial structure, body structure, hairy, not hairy, etc etc. Some races can more fit into that but that doesnt mean everyone in that race does nor does it mean that all the other races dont have girls that wont fit exactly into that criteria. Watch Victoria's secret or better yet watch Miss Universe, almost all races will have girls who can be tall, lean, angular facial structure / heart shaped face etc etc...So why rule out all races but one or even just think you only like this race or that race...Cant you see the minute you even consider bringing race into it, it is then a racial preference.

Love that Miss Universe show few weeks ago in Channel 7. and Miss Philippines almost won it (5 years in a row Miss Philippines placed in the top 5!!, so are Philipina girls the best looking in Asia ??) and last year it went to a black girl from Angola too. But then again, this year there was no black girl in the top 10, first time no black girl in the top 10 since 2002).

Just something trivial

Cheers

:cool2:

Travelmate
02-01-2013, 06:22 PM
Love that Miss Universe show few weeks ago in Channel 7. and Miss Philippines almost won it (5 years in a row Miss Philippines placed in the top 5!!, so are Philipina girls the best looking in Asia ??) and last year it went to a black girl from Angola too. But then again, this year there was no black girl in the top 10, first time no black girl in the top 10 since 2002).

Just something trivial

Cheers

:cool2:

you are a data man ...!

tpol
02-01-2013, 06:36 PM
Yellow is the new black

AHLUNGOR
02-01-2013, 08:00 PM
you are a data man ...!

Unfortunately only good for numbers 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40 and alphabets of C, D, E, DD, F, G Cups and nothing much else.......lol

Very very limited

Cheers

Travelmate
02-01-2013, 08:55 PM
Unfortunately only good for numbers 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40 and alphabets of C, D, E, DD, F, G Cups and nothing much else.......lol

Very very limited

Cheers

and 100+. Michael Clarke hit another century to help you win more money

woody
03-01-2013, 12:02 AM
Last Saturday was at that popular establishment and the manager said there are a few girls here who dont see white guys ( i am white and my mate with me was asian).

I said sure been here before so i know the rules :)

Long story short she said i was her first white guy and much larger than her previous boyfriends and clients. It was hurting her and i am not that big at all, maybe think but not long.

Finished up and my mate came out and he had the same problem. She only saw asian customers and freaked out when he got a fat it the shower and it was hurting her.
He is large for an asian guy so he is told.

Cruise home and it was discussed that white dicks are softer and have more meat or fat on them so they are larger and asian dicks are harder and more lean???

This was just us and no way dising anyone or any race. Might give some insite until next easter :)

Cheers Woody

Punter Poontang
03-01-2013, 12:09 AM
Yellow is the new black

;) LOL, I need that on a t-shirt.

Just RE: the OP and question, no-one seems to have mentioned the customers of places with an Asian-only policy. It was always my understanding that they were more responsible for driving "Asian-only" policies than the ladies themselves, as they're buying into the marketing exercise that generates perceived exclusivity.

As it happens, the one place we all know that employs this policy for some ladies is at the top end of the market $$$-wise, right?? By doing this their top ladies remain more "exclusive" to Asian clientelle, they haven't been stretched out by all those "Big American Penis's" (South Park joke), so they're able to charge top dollar yet still remain near-impossible to see without a booking.

I'm sure I haven't explained the above too well ..... it's kinda like how Japanese guys always have small dicks in porno's. I'm sure there are plenty of Japanese lads hung like donkey's, but opposite to Western porno's where the girls are getting monstered by huge cocks, Japanese customers want to see small dicks so they feel better about themselves. Japanese porno producers oblige. I reckon to some degree the "Asian-only" punter policy is similar, as those "Asian-only" girls would 100% see a decline in bookings from their Asian clientelle if they, errrrr, "opened themselves up" to white blokes.

Alternatively, I've had too much red wine and am just talking shit. ;)

woody
03-01-2013, 12:12 AM
On another note being an Caucasian Aussie, 6.1ft and 85kg, and average size in the pants :)

I am proud to say that i have been with the remarkable Moon of 5* some time ago. Would i be the only white boy to see her?

Complete stuffing of the booking by the manager and i got to see her, she did not look pleased to see me and when i got to the room she looked pissed and i said cheer up is it really that bad?

She relaxed and i must say i had the best punt ever and her reputation is well deserved.

Months later and i went back and asked for her again and the manager said she does not see Caucasian and i said um been there before and he did not beleive me so i will never taste that again :(

Cheers
Woody

Max Impact
03-01-2013, 12:28 AM
Dream on Woody!

But a Caucasian gentleman would never have mentioned that.

Max Impact
03-01-2013, 12:32 AM
;) LOL, I need that on a t-shirt.

Just RE: the OP and question, no-one seems to have mentioned the customers of places with an Asian-only policy. It was always my understanding that they were more responsible for driving "Asian-only" policies than the ladies themselves, as they're buying into the marketing exercise that generates perceived exclusivity.

As it happens, the one place we all know that employs this policy for some ladies is at the top end of the market $$$-wise, right?? By doing this their top ladies remain more "exclusive" to Asian clientelle, they haven't been stretched out by all those "Big American Penis's" (South Park joke), so they're able to charge top dollar yet still remain near-impossible to see without a booking.

I'm sure I haven't explained the above too well ..... it's kinda like how Japanese guys always have small dicks in porno's. I'm sure there are plenty of Japanese lads hung like donkey's, but opposite to Western porno's where the girls are getting monstered by huge cocks, Japanese customers want to see small dicks so they feel better about themselves. Japanese porno producers oblige. I reckon to some degree the "Asian-only" punter policy is similar, as those "Asian-only" girls would 100% see a decline in bookings from their Asian clientelle if they, errrrr, "opened themselves up" to white blokes.

Alternatively, I've had too much red wine and am just talking shit. ;)


And you can dream as well Punter Poontang. I reckon they got the biggest Japanese guys they could find for the pornos

yamada
03-01-2013, 12:41 AM
Hey bros,

Question.. Why do you think some asian WL's refuse to see white guys?

I'm thinking a few reasons, and perhaps its different in each case..

1) the language barrier
2) white guys tend to have bigger dicks and thus can do more damage or perhaps cause pain for the WL
3) white guys tend to be drunk, less well behaved, less respectful
4) some girls just like to mix with their own kind
5) theyre only find asian guys attractive

Thoughts?

We welcome all nationality.

by TMC

wilisno
03-01-2013, 12:51 AM
On another note being an Caucasian Aussie, 6.1ft and 85kg, and average size in the pants :)

I am proud to say that i have been with the remarkable Moon of 5* some time ago. Would i be the only white boy to see her?

Complete stuffing of the booking by the manager and i got to see her, she did not look pleased to see me and when i got to the room she looked pissed and i said cheer up is it really that bad?

She relaxed and i must say i had the best punt ever and her reputation is well deserved.

Months later and i went back and asked for her again and the manager said she does not see Caucasian and i said um been there before and he did not beleive me so i will never taste that again :(

Cheers
Woody

Hehe, no worry, Moon is always a professional with professional work ethics ! Love that girl ! :red_heart:

Eureka
03-01-2013, 03:07 PM
Dream on Woody

But a Caucasian gentleman would never have mentioned that.

Well said Max - i agree - very appropriate & pithy sentiment !!

woody
03-01-2013, 10:03 PM
Yes Wilisno i loved that girl too :)
But will never get the chance to see her again :(

lonewolf77
03-01-2013, 10:27 PM
Some of the rants and jousting that comes up in this forum is the best stuff i read anywhere year in year out. Newspaper, internet, conversation, all of it.. it's gold here sometimes. Gotta remember to guys, as much as it might have been thrown around before.. some (like me) are new to the forum and might not have argued these points or offered comments in all categories.. And recent, current, live opinion is what we all want, not doing a search of the forum history and retrieving 12 month old stuff.

I'd love to have a beer with Lonewolfe, you've got heart mate.

Those incidents reflected in the video make me sick and angry at the same time and im as aussie as a vegemite sandwich. It is nigh on impossible because of your upbringing, but i genuinely, actively try to treat all based on behaviour and personality.. blankets and putting everyone in the same corner is just blind.

Its good to talk about these things, over time it can open up peoples eyes or atleast make them question the way things are and whether or not it should be that way. Its all a learning experience...

Maybe we can meet up at a parlour..dont worry you can take the prettier girl, i will take one for the team and play wingman on the fat chick....;)

chandra_man1
03-01-2013, 10:59 PM
the fat chick probably has a tighter pussy than the prettiest one as the fatty gets chosen less while the pretty one is stuffed with a cock in her all day.

cisco
03-01-2013, 11:45 PM
So the more pretty the more wider the WEE WEE hole

Travelmate
04-01-2013, 12:09 AM
So the more pretty the more wider the WEE WEE hole

it is okay ... you have a big enough dick to fill that hole

cisco
04-01-2013, 05:25 AM
Hahahah,....i am a small small boy in the big big world but i need lube

Littlewonder
04-01-2013, 07:54 AM
I think the girls don't see non Asians because they are scared, lack self confidence, and don't know any better. In the long term they are the losers I don't think it's because they are racist.

DeepImpact
04-01-2013, 09:31 AM
I think the girls don't see non Asians because they are scared, lack self confidence, and don't know any better. In the long term they are the losers I don't think it's because they are racist.

No Bro you are wrong, completely off track.

The real reason some of these girls don't see white guys is that they are worried they will fall in love. Let's face it no WL is going to want to meet her true love while she is working as a prostitute so they save their real love and affection for outside of the business. Therefore they don't want to decrease their chances of finding Mr Right by running into him inside of the shop. Take a look the next time you walk down the street there are a lot of Asian girls with white guys so these guys must be doing something right. The girls must be happy and these guys don't have to pay their girlfriends and wives for sex. Maybe outside of the shop the same girls that only see Asian guys in there wouldn't even consider dating an Asian guy.

8inches
04-01-2013, 10:22 AM
Theres lots of Asian girls with white guys, not many asian guys with white girls.
Good observation but times are changing

MrSeven
04-01-2013, 10:28 AM
Thered be a whole heap of different reasons why they'd have a blanket ban for white guys. Whole heap! Narrowing it down to one is really naive.
Youd only know if you asked the girls themselves. And how do u do that? You ask the asian punters on this website to ask the likes of hebe and moon why. Simple as that.
Any asian brother gonna help a white brother out next time theyre with one of these beautiful girls?

wilisno
04-01-2013, 12:11 PM
Thered be a whole heap of different reasons why they'd have a blanket ban for white guys. Whole heap! Narrowing it down to one is really naive.
Youd only know if you asked the girls themselves. And how do u do that? You ask the asian punters on this website to ask the likes of hebe and moon why. Simple as that.
Any asian brother gonna help a white brother out next time theyre with one of these beautiful girls?
For fear of falling in love with a white punter is the weirdest reason I've heard, haha ! Never from a girl though !

But I can tell you that the majority said they're not comfortable with the size or anticipation of the size. Whether you like it or not, that's their perception, and I'm sure a bigger percentage of Caucasians are bigger in proportion to their body mass.

Size ! Size ! Size !

chandra_man1
04-01-2013, 02:16 PM
probaby for once I support Wilisno

wilisno
04-01-2013, 02:23 PM
probaby for once I support Wilisno
What an honour, I'm in tears ! Hahaha

MrSeven
04-01-2013, 02:29 PM
Ill second that. I agree too

AHLUNGOR
04-01-2013, 04:23 PM
probaby for once I support Wilisno

Congratulations on brother chandra reaching 1,000 post and turns GOLD !!

Well done mate!

Keep it up.

Cheers

:miao:

Eureka
04-01-2013, 04:32 PM
For fear of falling in love with a white punter is the weirdest reason I've heard, haha ! Never from a girl though !

But I can tell you that the majority said they're not comfortable with the size or anticipation of the size. Whether you like it or not, that's their perception, and I'm sure a bigger percentage of Caucasians are bigger in proportion to their body mass.

Size ! Size ! Size !

Oi Oi Oi !!! :) :) :)

wilisno
04-01-2013, 04:39 PM
Oi Oi Oi !!! :) :) :)

Hehe, although girls who see Caucasians have told me most Caucasians are similar to mine that's all ! :miao:

chandra_man1
04-01-2013, 04:51 PM
similar to cauc as in been soft or big/thick ?

wilisno
04-01-2013, 05:01 PM
similar to cauc as in been soft or big/thick ?
Someone told you Caucasians have soft dicks ? :miao:

" Size " is what we've been talking about !

chandra_man1
04-01-2013, 05:09 PM
yeh and i believe it. but the big/thick criteria i'm not so sure about.

AHLUNGOR
04-01-2013, 05:10 PM
May be they don't like to be fucked this way:


http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/653f8dcfc1660636f7392b3c16028f68d83f4c11_m.gif

DeepImpact
04-01-2013, 06:41 PM
Thered be a whole heap of different reasons why they'd have a blanket ban for white guys. Whole heap! Narrowing it down to one is really naive.
Youd only know if you asked the girls themselves. And how do u do that? You ask the asian punters on this website to ask the likes of hebe and moon why. Simple as that.
Any asian brother gonna help a white brother out next time theyre with one of these beautiful girls?

Asking the question in a open forum is of course just going to encourage suggestions. Should everyone just say I agree to your original post and write 'I agree' responses? That would be very boring wouldn't it. If you can't be open minded enough to handle the answers then don't ask the question to start with.

tpol
04-01-2013, 11:42 PM
I've asked the girls and they've said that caucs vary from small pencil dicks to big ones and the big ones arent that common.they've told me that are worried about the size but most caucs are friendly unless they are pissed and get really aggressive.

Asians dont get as big as the caucs.


However theyndid say that every black man they see is usually large

Licker
05-01-2013, 12:04 AM
... but most caucs are friendly unless they are pissed and get really aggressive.


I have never been refused service by any girl.
I must admit though that I have never been to a certain establishment that has often been mentioned here as a place where some of the girls don't see Caucasian men.

Would the close proximity to Kings Cross have something to do with that?
I would gather they get a fair deal of young and piss drunk white guys on their way back from the Cross.

wilisno
05-01-2013, 12:18 AM
I have never been refused service by any girl.
I must admit though that I have never been to a certain establishment that has often been mentioned here as a place where some of the girls don't see Caucasian men.

Would the close proximity to Kings Cross have something to do with that?
I would gather they get a fair deal of young and piss drunk white guys on their way back from the Cross.

Well ! Lots of Caucasian customers found out that the worry is unfounded on a daily basis, one just posted a report for Whisky yesterday, you don't know what you have missed out on ! but then again, if you're happy with a certain shop, nothing's wrong with staying with the one you know.

Sergaent Brody
05-01-2013, 12:33 AM
I agree with you 100%, its all about racism, nothing else whatsoever. And really they should not be in australia or doing a service oriented job if they want to make decisions based on race. We are not asking for love or marriage but a service based on cash. I dont know why shops allow them to act this way and why people visit those shops. To sin by silence when we should protest makes cowards out of men.

This whole idea of roughness or cock size is a joke and an excuse put forward by shops and WLs. Are you going to tell me asian girls pussys are so small ....excuse me they have babies just like all other women do. Pussys are designed to enlarge and can accommodate any size. The length can be a different story, but there are many other short girls, not just asians. It should really be about checking the size and then deciding, at least that would be semi-ok but to just have this blanket....its just racism pure and simple. Sick of people trying to explain it or excuse it.

All men can be rough or unhygienic or the opposite. You going to tell me there is no such thing as asian men being rough in the sack? why are there so much asian porn / japanese porn which fantasizes about those kinds of things? I think those excuses are not only demeaning for non asian men but also demeaning for all men / including asian men. As they are saying asian men are soft and cuddly and have small dicks and smell like girls? what the, are they saying all asian men are feminine.

Sorry if those post seems harsh, i dont mean to be and i dont really want to hurt anyone's feelings or am trying to put anyone down. I just feel its wrong and people should not be scared to come out and say so. It is only for one reason and that is not a good reason and should not be accepted in this country or by its people. Sometimes there is no such thing as being on the fence or an innocent bystander. What i mean is the people who stand on the fence have made a choice and that is to condone or through in action allow specific behaviour. This was a very common topic based on WW2 and hitler. A lot of people did not agree with his viewpoints or his comments but chose to not intervene or sit on the fence as they didnt want to offend or do anything even if their principles said otherwise.

Hate to say this bro, but this is a load of crap that I won't even try to dignify by explaining to you. These girls are human too and we are talking about putting your dick into their virgina, not buying a carton of milk. Perspective and context people!

Max Impact
05-01-2013, 01:29 AM
probaby for once I support Wilisno

Haha, me too!

Max Impact
05-01-2013, 01:33 AM
Cauci guys, I've said it for so long. Show some confidence and most girls are ok at 5* (at least up to a year ago, that I knew).

Richboy
05-01-2013, 01:43 AM
I was once told by wl why they don't see Caucasian guys 1. BO (body odour issue 2. Too harry 3. Physique too big Any views in this?

wilisno
05-01-2013, 01:45 AM
Cauci guys, I've said it for so long. Show some confidence and most girls are ok at 5* (at least up to a year ago, that I knew).
Nothing's changed !

huangdee
05-01-2013, 01:46 AM
For fear of falling in love with a white punter is the weirdest reason I've heard, haha ! Never from a girl though !

But I can tell you that the majority said they're not comfortable with the size or anticipation of the size. Whether you like it or not, that's their perception, and I'm sure a bigger percentage of Caucasians are bigger in proportion to their body mass.

Size ! Size ! Size !

most girls say so

DeepImpact
05-01-2013, 08:33 AM
Cauci guys, I've said it for so long. Show some confidence and most girls are ok at 5* (at least up to a year ago, that I knew).

Hey Max Impact,


Would you mind to explain how this works as I don't understand this. So if you walk in with confidence and you are white guy, big smile on your face, shake hands with everyone and work the room then the receptionist will bring out the girls that are willing to see white guys but then he will realise oh hang on a minute this guy looks confident so he will then go into the WL's waiting room and say 'Oh girls I know you normally only see asian guys but this white guy looks really confident' and then all of the girls will rush out to be in the line up. Is that how it works?

project_manager006
05-01-2013, 08:43 AM
To bros saying it's unfair for WLs to decline to see Caucasian guys...if you were forced to be butt f*cked, but had the choice to choose between a black man and an Asian man, who would you choose?

cisco
05-01-2013, 09:56 AM
To bros saying it's unfair for WLs to decline to see Caucasian guys...if you were forced to be butt f*cked, but had the choice to choose between a black man and an Asian man, who would you choose?

Good question, agreed

chandra_man1
05-01-2013, 11:28 AM
lots of 'if"
if that black man is Usain Bolt then the girl would choose him. if he can do 100m in 9.5 sec then he can do her in 4 sec give or take .5 sec.

Revvedup
05-01-2013, 12:04 PM
I'd choose the asian ;)

PhoBot
05-01-2013, 01:26 PM
The thing I find ridiculous is an 'asian only' WL could end up with Chinese guy FOTB from a peasant upbringing with poor hygiene, terrible smoke stained teeth, hawks and spits rather than myself, a well educated refined Sydney lad of impeccable manners.

PhoBot
05-01-2013, 01:27 PM
To bros saying it's unfair for WLs to decline to see Caucasian guys...if you were forced to be butt f*cked, but had the choice to choose between a black man and an Asian man, who would you choose?

This is a bit of a fallacious argument. In this country as far as I know, prostitutes are not tied down and arse raped. If a man is inside them and it's hurting, they have a right to ask them to stop to slow down.

wilisno
05-01-2013, 01:30 PM
The thing I find ridiculous is an 'asian only' WL could end up with Chinese guy FOTB from a peasant upbringing with poor hygiene, terrible smoke stained teeth, hawks and spits rather than myself, a well educated refined Sydney lad of impeccable manners.
Now this is a racist comment !

PhoBot
05-01-2013, 01:39 PM
Now this is a racist comment !

How so? Describes a peasant pretty well I thought.

wilisno
05-01-2013, 01:53 PM
How so? Describes a peasant pretty well I thought.
Same deal as one wants to outline and generalize the shortcomings of Caucasians if he wants to, but it's something I will never do as an educated man !

I think the number of peasants in China alone is several times the population of Australia ... talking about generalization !

PhoBot
05-01-2013, 02:04 PM
Same deal as one wants to outline and generalize the shortcomings of Caucasians if he wants to, but it's something I will never do as an educated man !

I think the number of peasants in China alone is several times the population of Australia ... talking about generalization !



I think the number if peasants in China alone is several times the population of Australia ... talking about generalization ![/QUOTE]


Well this post is about some WL's asian only policy, so it's entirely fair to point out the hypocrisy of them willing to see Chinese with terrible personal hygiene over a well groomed cauc.

wilisno
05-01-2013, 02:09 PM
I think the number if peasants in China alone is several times the population of Australia ... talking about generalization !


Well this post is about some WL's asian only policy, so it's entirely fair to point out the hypocrisy of them willing to see Chinese with terrible personal hygiene over a well groomed cauc.[/QUOTE]
It's just a matter of perception, don't you think it's the same reason why they don't want to see Caucasians ?
But at least they won't insult a race in public !

dannyboy
05-01-2013, 02:28 PM
The only part he had correct is a about the hocking and spitting, really pisses me off, chinese people spitting in the bins in star city next to where people are gambling drinking and playing the machines.. Please don't take this a racist insult because its not, its just my observation..

wilisno
05-01-2013, 02:59 PM
The only part he had correct is a about the hocking and spitting, really pisses me off, chinese people spitting in the bins in star city next to where people are gambling drinking and playing the machines.. Please don't take this a racist insult because its not, its just my observation..
Still a bit of generalization there, those who spit do not represent Chinese as a whole.

PhoBot
05-01-2013, 03:32 PM
Still a bit of generalization there, those who spit do not represent Chinese as a whole.

When overseas If anyone asks me what Aussies are like, I'm more than happy to say about 50% are stupid bogans who want to watch footy, drink shit beer, eat shit food and smoke winnie reds.

China's wealth has increased at an astonishing rate, much faster than it takes people to change certain personal habits. I haven't been to China, but have spent years in Viet which is very similar to China in this regard.
This is not being racist as ABC don't do this, it's a cultural thing. Why are you so sensitive about it when even the Chinese Govt launched a pre games re-education campaign telling people not to spit.

wilisno
05-01-2013, 03:41 PM
When overseas If anyone asks me what Aussies are like, I'm more than happy to say about 50% are stupid bogans who want to watch footy, drink shit beer, eat shit food and smoke winnie reds.

China's wealth has increased at an astonishing rate, much faster than it takes people to change certain personal habits. I haven't been to China, but have spent years in Viet which is very similar to China in this regard.
This is not being racist as ABC don't do this, it's a cultural thing. Why are you so sensitive about it when even the Chinese Govt launched a pre games re-education campaign telling people not to spit.
You've said it in your own words ! ABC are Chinese too, I wasn't born in China, but I can't deny I'm of Chinese descent ! So it's still a generalization !

PhoBot
05-01-2013, 03:49 PM
You've said it in your own words ! ABC are Chinese too, I wasn't born in China, but I can't deny I'm of Chinese descends ! So it's still a generalization !

Which is why in my post I specifically said a FOTB born in China. I'd say the chance of this for ABC is about = to a cauc.

dannyboy
05-01-2013, 04:35 PM
Sorry but I witness this day in day out where I work as well, they are most likely tourists from mainland China where there is a different attitude towards spitting then in Australia, a friend of mine recently came back from Shanghai and was shocked that people were spitting everywhere, women as well, maybe China should take a lesson from Singapore when it comes to spitting..

PhoBot
05-01-2013, 04:44 PM
Mkay :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn7n1l1M07Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5YRUspGnag

wilisno
05-01-2013, 05:48 PM
When overseas If anyone asks me what Aussies are like, I'm more than happy to say about 50% are stupid bogans who want to watch footy, drink shit beer, eat shit food and smoke winnie reds.

China's wealth has increased at an astonishing rate, much faster than it takes people to change certain personal habits. I haven't been to China, but have spent years in Viet which is very similar to China in this regard.
This is not being racist as ABC don't do this, it's a cultural thing. Why are you so sensitive about it when even the Chinese Govt launched a pre games re-education campaign telling people not to spit.

The Aussie humour of talking down oneself is a merit in itself, no argument about that, but talking down yourself won't get yourself all upset, it's a different thing talking down another person or race. Different races have different sense of humour and pride, that's what an educated person should respect. I remember one incident in the old forum ... was that you Phobot ? I think it was you ... who made a joke about bro KMS's mother and drew a very hostile reaction from the otherwise fun loving KMS, remember ?

Talking about the Chinese Goverment has to launch a program to educate it's people to behave in a certain way. While it might be a problem, but it doesn't represent the behaviour of a nation or a race, on the contrary, it shows the country is progressing in a good way.

Same argument can be said about the Australian Goverment having to introduce laws to deal with alcoholism, obesity, gun crimes and so on, should people from around the world consider all Australian drunkards, fat slobs and criminals ? Of course not, at least they won't say it in public or on a forum, or I'll defend the Aussies too !

cmk76
05-01-2013, 06:40 PM
The thing I find ridiculous is an 'asian only' WL could end up with Chinese guy FOTB from a peasant upbringing with poor hygiene, terrible smoke stained teeth, hawks and spits rather than myself, a well educated refined Sydney lad of impeccable manners.

Example of an oxymoron. A well educated refined sydney lad with impeccable manners finds ridiculous that an 'asian only WL could end up with Chinese guy FOTB from a peasant upbringing with poor hygiene, terrible smoke teeth, hawks and spits rather than himself.

cmk76
05-01-2013, 06:49 PM
The only part he had correct is a about the hocking and spitting, really pisses me off, chinese people spitting in the bins in star city next to where people are gambling drinking and playing the machines.. Please don't take this a racist insult because its not, its just my observation..

how many times would you say, that you have seen 'chinese people spitting in the bins in star city' and did the 'people' say that they were chinese, right after they had spat or prior? or did you personally ask them? just curious...

wilisno
05-01-2013, 06:51 PM
how many times would you say, that you have seen 'chinese people spitting in the bins in star city' and did the 'people' say that they were chinese, right after they had spat or prior? or did you personally ask them? just curious...

Maybe 1.3 billion times ! :miao:

DeepImpact
05-01-2013, 07:33 PM
When overseas If anyone asks me what Aussies are like, I'm more than happy to say about 50% are stupid bogans who want to watch footy, drink shit beer, eat shit food and smoke winnie reds.

China's wealth has increased at an astonishing rate, much faster than it takes people to change certain personal habits. I haven't been to China, but have spent years in Viet which is very similar to China in this regard.
This is not being racist as ABC don't do this, it's a cultural thing. Why are you so sensitive about it when even the Chinese Govt launched a pre games re-education campaign telling people not to spit.

Bro, let me give you an example of what I found strange. The first time I worked in China was in Beijing for 2 months. What shocked me more than anything was how much a lot of local Beijing born and bred residents despised people from the country side. They would take every opportunity to run them down and anything that went bad they assumed it must have been someone from outside of the city. I can still remember catching the subway and some people had left some food and rubbish behind so my Beijing colleague immediately blamed out of towners for it. Don't ever think that China or a lot of other developing countries are one big happy family because they are not.

I have a Chinese friend who went back to Beijing recently and she told me she can't wait to return to Sydney because she doesn't like the people there anymore.

dannyboy
05-01-2013, 08:02 PM
how many times would you say, that you have seen 'chinese people spitting in the bins in star city' and did the 'people' say that they were chinese, right after they had spat or prior? or did you personally ask them? just curious...

Actually all the time, its annoying and disgusting, I have even seen patrons approach security over it, I know what madarin sounds like, these people are chinese mainlanders, almost all of them are tourists, just stating a fact..

cmk76
05-01-2013, 08:15 PM
Hi all,
Would like to share a few examples as well as questions of my own.


Theres lots of Asian girls with white guys, not many asian guys with white girls.
Good observation but times are changing

I believe this to be true. A lot of ex-high school female friends/acquaintances have 'western' or non asian husbands: Vietnamese-Australian, Indonesian-Serbian, Vietnamese-Irish, Chinese-Irish, Cambodian-New Zealander

Male friends with 'asian' wives/partners: Australian-Vietnamese, Australian-Hong Kong Chinese, Chilean-Hong Kong Chinese, Chilean-Korean

A select few asian male friends with 'caucasian' (ex)wives/partners: Singaporean-Greek, Chinese-German, Vietnamese-Greek

Both my asian uncles are married to Australian caucasian women.

This topic has questioned my own preferences in dating women, as well as seeing WL's of late. I have been living in Sydney for the past 24 years. I am in my late 30's. When I was in my teens and 20's, I had a no interest in wanting an asian gf (particularly those who were FOTB). Though I have dated very, very briefly a Vietnamese and Laotian (both AB) but had relationships with a Uruguayan, Macedonian and Australian. And all the WL's and ML's were predominantly non asian. This curiosity and attraction waned leading to the end of my last caucasian relationship prior to turning 30.

I have had a 2x Thai gf's since and have now seen my attraction narrowing down to Chinese and also currently curious about Japanese women. I would not even look at any caucasian women, no matter how attractive they may be. I have been told that I have closed my scope and mind to possibilities of having a relationship with someone wonderful (regarding of race or religion) I have stated that if and when I do decide to get married, and have children of my own, my partner would first and foremost have to be of Chinese descent. As I would like to continue and 'preserve' another generation of Chinese blood. (I am the last Chinese ethnicity of my generation in my family)

[My question is, does that quaify me as a narrow minded bigot or racist even, since I am very much a 'westernised' asian (banana). Any opinions from all backgrounds would be appreciated. Thanks again.

rooter
05-01-2013, 08:30 PM
It is simply not true that many Asian girls have western boyfriends/partners/husbands.
We see what we want to see. The mixed couples stand out. Actually the fact that they stand out is proof that they are a minority. The vast majority of Asian girls have Asian partners. We don't even notice it because its so common.
I don't have figures on this but I am sure research has been done on this and the figures are out there.
If you are interested you could research it - I don't care enough about the issue to bother.
My guess is that less than 10% of Asian girls have Western partners.
The percentage of Asian guys who have Western partners is even smaller. My guess would be less than 5%.
The fact is that generally people like to to stick their own kind when it comes to long term relationships.
I am not saying that's good or bad but thats just how it is.

Travelmate
05-01-2013, 08:32 PM
It is simply not true that many Asian girls have western boyfriends/partners/husands.
We see what we want to see. The mixed couples stand out. Actually the fact that they stand out is proof that they are a minority. The vast majority of Asian girls have Asian partners. We don't even notice it because its so common.
I don't have figures on this but I am sure research has been done on this and the figures are out there.
If you are interested you could research it - I don't care enough about the issue to bother.
My guess is that less than 10% of Asian girls have Western partners.
The percentage of Asian guys who have Western partners is even smaller. My guess would be less than 5%.
The fact is that generally people like to to stick their own kind when it comes to long term realtionships.
I am not saying that's good or bad but thats just how it is.

10% is quite close ...
I can estimate the percentage is right

bfe
05-01-2013, 09:26 PM
The answer is honestly pretty simple. Whores dont see white/black guys because of 3 reasons. B.O, roughness, and size. The reason this discussion comes up time and time again for me is because luckily I have a micropenis and I always ask the whores what they think about it. And I say lucky by the way because I am able to be as rough as I like and not hurt them, whereas they need to avoid the white/blacks altogether

Eff2fifty
05-01-2013, 10:13 PM
way too much racism here, as far as i see it...all of you...regardless of your colour or creed, i believe it should only be a way of identifying one's background or heritage, after all, we live here, by choice????? cannot generalise !!!!

Bracket
05-01-2013, 11:03 PM
Still a bit of generalization there, those who spit do not represent Chinese as a whole.That is definitely true. There are many Chinese in China who hate spitting too. I saw this sign at a Macao sweet shop recently :

Bracket
05-01-2013, 11:11 PM
... What shocked me more than anything was how much a lot of local Beijing born and bred residents despised people from the country side. ...Just goes to show that what goes around comes around. Not long ago I was surprised when a Hong Kong-born Chinese person I was with referred contemptuously to a nearby group of chattering Chinese tourists as "loud-mouthed mainlanders".

chandra_man1
06-01-2013, 12:54 AM
Honkies love it when packs of mainlander rock in Mongkok every Sunday... NOT

tpol
06-01-2013, 08:07 AM
What about the money making scheme where they are buyimg up aussie baby milk powder and sending it back to china and making profits.

For those who dont know , there is fake baby milk powder in china where they put cancer causing ingreduents as filler.
And u cant tell thr difference in the packaging



I went to this place in the mountains in china. They made it to represent a european town with the powder coloured houses. It was a beautiful place but the biggest let down is that there are alit if mainlanders who visit there and yes spit everywhere.


But in saying that, in nice, southern france, the ppl take their little dogs everywhere and they let it crap everywhere. All iver thr footpaths and they do not pick it up. The french tread on it like if it was dirt.

I was like looking at the ground and trying to make my own little path to dodge them.

In milan, the guys their come up to pretty girls and feel their arses. And they girls yell at them and they guy just laughs as it was normal.

So to each and their own. I think before people land in australia they should be made aware not to spit, touch girls arses etc

tpol
06-01-2013, 08:08 AM
Oh but footy players aleays spit on national tv. The texan who chew tobacco always spit

lonewolf77
06-01-2013, 01:07 PM
Hate to say this bro, but this is a load of crap that I won't even try to dignify by explaining to you. These girls are human too and we are talking about putting your dick into their virgina, not buying a carton of milk. Perspective and context people!



Then dont bother responding Stalin brody. Noone said anything about putting a dick into any vagina. The girl always has the right to stop it at somepoint and give the money back. alot of people go see girls for companionship, conversation or thinks like BBBJ or DATY / DFK etc. Not just for sex. A lot of the girls i have seen, i dont have sex with, most of my friends who punt prefer not having sex if they have a partner as they feel it is going to far. They prefer other things.... Each to their own

But to just have a blanket ban and then to come to this country and then to ban the majority in this country based on race....As if its not racism, no matter how you look at it. Have specific rules where the girl checks the size IF THATS really the issue or the hygiene etc can be determined on case by case basis. But i seriously doubt those are the real reasons. As are you going to tell me ALL ASIANS are small? And all other races are HUGE? There is always small and big sizes....so what happens if they come across an asian that is too big and hurting them...they just go through with it? THAT IS Inhumane.

lonewolf77
06-01-2013, 01:09 PM
10% is quite close ...
I can estimate the percentage is right


I dont know about 10%, i would have thought its more, most of my friends have coined a term for it, we call it the stolen generation....;) I have been to some weddings where everyone at the wedding is the same mix...asian girl and western partner. Except for the older couples / families. Its definitely far more than the other way around. I think its about 10 times more than asian guy and western girl.

ethanhunter
06-01-2013, 01:38 PM
Still bitter about it, no wonder you call yourself Lonewolff lol

8inches
06-01-2013, 01:44 PM
Asian girl western guy couples are increasingly popular
Asian girls have a taste for bigger, thicker cocks and telling all their friends.
Once one of their friends has an eurasian baby its makes these asian girls hungrier for the white cock

wilisno
06-01-2013, 01:48 PM
Asian girl western guy couples are increasingly popular
Asian girls have a taste for bigger, thicker cocks and telling all their friends.
Once one of their friends has an eurasian baby its makes these asian girls hungrier for the white cock
Haha, there you go ! All this racism talks are groundless, bitterness doesn't solve a problem, be happy ! ;) ;) ;)

rooter
06-01-2013, 02:07 PM
I dont know about 10%, i would have thought its more, most of my friends have coined a term for it, we call it the stolen generation....;) I have been to some weddings where everyone at the wedding is the same mix...asian girl and western partner. Except for the older couples / families. Its definitely far more than the other way around. I think its about 10 times more than asian guy and western girl.

I agree that the figure would be well over 10% if you look at under 30yo. Probably more like 20%, but stll clearly a minority.
This is to be expected in a multiracial society like Australia. And it's not necessarliy a bad thing.
We are not in apartheid era Sth Africa and different races interact at work, school, university, nightclubs etc, so it's natural and unavoidable that relationships are formed.
I can understand the anxiety caused though by the fact that the traffic is going one way ie. mainly Asian girl/Western guy rather than Western girl/Asian guy.

lonewolf77
06-01-2013, 09:47 PM
I agree that the figure would be well over 10% if you look at under 30yo. Probably more like 20%, but stll clearly a minority.
This is to be expected in a multiracial society like Australia. And it's not necessarliy a bad thing.
We are not in apartheid era Sth Africa and different races interact at work, school, university, nightclubs etc, so it's natural and unavoidable that relationships are formed.
I can understand the anxiety caused though by the fact that the traffic is going one way ie. mainly Asian girl/Western guy rather than Western girl/Asian guy.

I actually believe the best thing for the world is interracial marriages. Definitely that is the best way to reduce racism and cultural biases / conflicts. Generally (not all the time) interracial people are less prone to racist behaviour and the likes. My sister in law is a mix of about 4 or 5 races / cultures, i have never really seen her say anything racist or biased based on race or culture. But that will not always be the case. Still over time and a few generations, it should reduce considerably.

My issue is with how one sided it is and how / why it seems to happen. I know a lot of people including some of my friends who target specific races due to them feeling superior to the girls of that race and hence feeling more confident and having the idea they can get more of what they want / their way with specific races / girls. Vice versa i know some girls also target specific races basing on the fact that they are the superior people or generally the more wealthy etc etc. I have problems and issues with that kind of mindset including with some of my own friends who only target a specific race and even stoop to playing the music of that race while they go cruising in order to attract more attention etc...

Not sure if its a minority, it is a minority compared to same race marriages. But i would go as far as to say asian girl and white guys is by far the most prominent interracial marriage mix there is...by far. And yet if that was only due to schooling and the new generations etc i dont know, i see it in 50 yr old couples down to my generation (35yr olds), and i hardly ever see the opposite of asian guy and white girl.

Now in the 20s its more common and yet its more common with all racial mixing...still though asian girl and white guy is the most prominent in that age group too but not as vast a gap as in the 30s and 40s...

tpol
06-01-2013, 11:14 PM
Then who does the white women end up with when the white men go asian? it is close to 50% women/men ratio. The dildo shops must be making a fair bit.

In terms of marriages of friends and colleagues, I know alot of white 40+ y.o. who are divorced. Alot of their hubbies have a younger asian women with him now,.

I also see in the shopping centres younger asian chicks with older white gentlemen.

guailo
07-01-2013, 02:47 PM
MrSeven mate, who knows? Maybe all points 1 to 5. Does it matter? Ask around if all Cauc WLs will accept an Asian client.

spitzer
08-01-2013, 05:01 AM
Hi all,
Would like to share a few examples as well as questions of my own.



I believe this to be true. A lot of ex-high school female friends/acquaintances have 'western' or non asian husbands: Vietnamese-Australian, Indonesian-Serbian, Vietnamese-Irish, Chinese-Irish, Cambodian-New Zealander

Male friends with 'asian' wives/partners: Australian-Vietnamese, Australian-Hong Kong Chinese, Chilean-Hong Kong Chinese, Chilean-Korean

A select few asian male friends with 'caucasian' (ex)wives/partners: Singaporean-Greek, Chinese-German, Vietnamese-Greek

Both my asian uncles are married to Australian caucasian women.

This topic has questioned my own preferences in dating women, as well as seeing WL's of late. I have been living in Sydney for the past 24 years. I am in my late 30's. When I was in my teens and 20's, I had a no interest in wanting an asian gf (particularly those who were FOTB). Though I have dated very, very briefly a Vietnamese and Laotian (both AB) but had relationships with a Uruguayan, Macedonian and Australian. And all the WL's and ML's were predominantly non asian. This curiosity and attraction waned leading to the end of my last caucasian relationship prior to turning 30.

I have had a 2x Thai gf's since and have now seen my attraction narrowing down to Chinese and also currently curious about Japanese women. I would not even look at any caucasian women, no matter how attractive they may be. I have been told that I have closed my scope and mind to possibilities of having a relationship with someone wonderful (regarding of race or religion) I have stated that if and when I do decide to get married, and have children of my own, my partner would first and foremost have to be of Chinese descent. As I would like to continue and 'preserve' another generation of Chinese blood. (I am the last Chinese ethnicity of my generation in my family)

[My question is, does that quaify me as a narrow minded bigot or racist even, since I am very much a 'westernised' asian (banana). Any opinions from all backgrounds would be appreciated. Thanks again.

From what you have written CMK I would have to agree with the people who said you are narrowing your scope. Obviously you know that is what you are doing because by pre (dis)qualifying certain options you have less choices. Having said that, its your life to lead and live with your choices. I am sure there is nothing wrong with keeping your bloodline if that is such an important part of keeping you happy right? You asked for opinions so from my point of view the reason I would not find preserving another generation of race or religion is because I really cant see how that will be a factor in my happiness. I can see it would be convenient in may situations, less so than 30 years ago but still I am sure older generations would be happier.

Consider this true story, I know a girl who is now one of the saddest most glum people you can imagine. It was not always like that, when we were young she was a happy-go-lucky person with a wide circle of friends. Not beautiful, but in our teens and 20's she had plenty of boys after her. In our late 20's she got really serious with a (country) guy she met at the snow, they were great together, they pursued the long distance thing for a while and he ended up leaving the family farm...(big business, not some pony ride thing) and living in Sydney.

Things progressed and eventually he popped the question most girls are waiting for and tears of joy were everywhere. The girl was beaming and glowing I don't think the smile left her face. A few weeks later her folks returned from their yearly 3 months in Europe and were told the great news which had been kept a secret so she cold see their faces when she told them. Everything changed forever right then and there, he was a different religion, the parents wanted to ruin their daughter's life, they were doing what they believed to be best for all, a huge part of their thought process was preserving the lineage. From what I remember, they had rekligion but I just dont think they were that religious. With alll the pressure and constriction and emotional blackmail and seeds of doubt the relationship broke down and it was all over.

Every time I have seen this girl with the dark cloud hanging over her since then I wonder how the parents feel.... she was bridesmaid at probably 10 of her friends weddings, she has at least 8 godchildren, she works really hard and goes to lots of singles events. She is invited to friend's houses for dinners and BBq's on a regular basis but she has not met anyone who makes her feel like the farmer did, she hasn't been married or had kids of her own. All she wanted was to get married and have kids and be a mum and a wife...

Its all on the parents and its all to preserve the heritage, ironically there will not be any heritage cause there will not be any kids.

If you lived in China, then preserving your Chinese blood would be easy, basically no choice, but you don't.. unfortunately you have a smorgasbord of choices. So the 2 things I think you should consider are:
1. Fast forward 30 years, your kid who you love more than anything else in the world comes to you with aSwedish girl he fell in love with, u see him fhappy and content, he wants to marry her and he is asking you because nothing means more to him than your approval.... what do you say to CMK jnr?
2. You get bad news from the doctor tomorrow, maybe 5-7 years to live.... Are you going to rush out and find a pure Chinese girl to preserve the race.... Is that even going to be in your top 10 things to do?


BTW you fail to qualify as a bigot, or racist in my book.

dannyboy
08-01-2013, 10:34 AM
Ethnic Chinese have already been mixing with other races for centuries, go to Mongolia where it borders Russia, go to central Asia eg Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and you will find many people of mixed chinese, european and Turk descent. In more recent times you can look at Macau with the Macanese people who are mixed Chinese and Portuguese. In regards to cmk76 wanting to preserve his chinese bloodlines, ask yourself this, if white people refuse to marry or date other nationalities they are immediately labeled racists, why do you think you are not racist, if you marry are white girl I think the Chinese race will be fine considering there are currently 1.3 billion living in China..

cmk76
08-01-2013, 09:10 PM
From what you have written CMK I would have to agree with the people who said you are narrowing your scope. Obviously you know that is what you are doing because by pre (dis)qualifying certain options you have less choices. Having said that, its your life to lead and live with your choices. I am sure there is nothing wrong with keeping your bloodline if that is such an important part of keeping you happy right? You asked for opinions so from my point of view the reason I would not find preserving another generation of race or religion is because I really cant see how that will be a factor in my happiness. I can see it would be convenient in may situations, less so than 30 years ago but still I am sure older generations would be happier.

Consider this true story, I know a girl who is now one of the saddest most glum people you can imagine. It was not always like that, when we were young she was a happy-go-lucky person with a wide circle of friends. Not beautiful, but in our teens and 20's she had plenty of boys after her. In our late 20's she got really serious with a (country) guy she met at the snow, they were great together, they pursued the long distance thing for a while and he ended up leaving the family farm...(big business, not some pony ride thing) and living in Sydney.

Things progressed and eventually he popped the question most girls are waiting for and tears of joy were everywhere. The girl was beaming and glowing I don't think the smile left her face. A few weeks later her folks returned from their yearly 3 months in Europe and were told the great news which had been kept a secret so she cold see their faces when she told them. Everything changed forever right then and there, he was a different religion, the parents wanted to ruin their daughter's life, they were doing what they believed to be best for all, a huge part of their thought process was preserving the lineage. From what I remember, they had rekligion but I just dont think they were that religious. With alll the pressure and constriction and emotional blackmail and seeds of doubt the relationship broke down and it was all over.

Every time I have seen this girl with the dark cloud hanging over her since then I wonder how the parents feel.... she was bridesmaid at probably 10 of her friends weddings, she has at least 8 godchildren, she works really hard and goes to lots of singles events. She is invited to friend's houses for dinners and BBq's on a regular basis but she has not met anyone who makes her feel like the farmer did, she hasn't been married or had kids of her own. All she wanted was to get married and have kids and be a mum and a wife...

Its all on the parents and its all to preserve the heritage, ironically there will not be any heritage cause there will not be any kids.

If you lived in China, then preserving your Chinese blood would be easy, basically no choice, but you don't.. unfortunately you have a smorgasbord of choices. So the 2 things I think you should consider are:
1. Fast forward 30 years, your kid who you love more than anything else in the world comes to you with aSwedish girl he fell in love with, u see him fhappy and content, he wants to marry her and he is asking you because nothing means more to him than your approval.... what do you say to CMK jnr?
2. You get bad news from the doctor tomorrow, maybe 5-7 years to live.... Are you going to rush out and find a pure Chinese girl to preserve the race.... Is that even going to be in your top 10 things to do?


BTW you fail to qualify as a bigot, or racist in my book.

Thank you very much for the insight, spitzer. Much appreciated. I think this is something that is quite important to me, and no influence from family whatsoever. They are happy as long as I am in a happy and loving relationship, regardless of ethnic background. It is a personal choice of mine to 'want' to have a Chinese firstborn. Whether I get married or not, I would prefer my firstborn to be of Chinese heritage. If and when he or she grows up and decides to marry a different race, I would accept it wholeheartedly and lovingly, just as my grandmother did when both my uncles married caucasian Australian women.

Perhaps there is a possibility for someone out there in this world, to 'appear' in my life and finally grab my immediate attention and accept me for the way I am. (regarding of race or religion)

DeepImpact
08-01-2013, 09:13 PM
Thank you very much for the insight, spitzer. Much appreciated. I think this is something that is quite important to me, and no influence from family whatsoever. They are happy as long as I am in a happy and loving relationship, regardless of ethnic background. It is a personal choice of mine to 'want' to have a Chinese firstborn. Whether I get married or not, I would prefer my firstborn to be of Chinese heritage. If and when he or she grows up and decides to marry a different race, I would accept it wholeheartedly and lovingly, just as my grandmother did when both my uncles married caucasian Australian women.

Perhaps there is a possibility for someone out there in this world, to 'appear' in my life and finally grab my immediate attention and accept me for the way I am. (regarding of race or religion)

Interesting but it appears that you don't have the same acceptance standards that you are expecting the girl to have towards you.

cmk76
08-01-2013, 09:21 PM
From what you have written CMK I would have to agree with the people who said you are narrowing your scope. Obviously you know that is what you are doing because by pre (dis)qualifying certain options you have less choices. Having said that, its your life to lead and live with your choices. I am sure there is nothing wrong with keeping your bloodline if that is such an important part of keeping you happy right? You asked for opinions so from my point of view the reason I would not find preserving another generation of race or religion is because I really cant see how that will be a factor in my happiness. I can see it would be convenient in may situations, less so than 30 years ago but still I am sure older generations would be happier.

Consider this true story, I know a girl who is now one of the saddest most glum people you can imagine. It was not always like that, when we were young she was a happy-go-lucky person with a wide circle of friends. Not beautiful, but in our teens and 20's she had plenty of boys after her. In our late 20's she got really serious with a (country) guy she met at the snow, they were great together, they pursued the long distance thing for a while and he ended up leaving the family farm...(big business, not some pony ride thing) and living in Sydney.

Things progressed and eventually he popped the question most girls are waiting for and tears of joy were everywhere. The girl was beaming and glowing I don't think the smile left her face. A few weeks later her folks returned from their yearly 3 months in Europe and were told the great news which had been kept a secret so she cold see their faces when she told them. Everything changed forever right then and there, he was a different religion, the parents wanted to ruin their daughter's life, they were doing what they believed to be best for all, a huge part of their thought process was preserving the lineage. From what I remember, they had rekligion but I just dont think they were that religious. With alll the pressure and constriction and emotional blackmail and seeds of doubt the relationship broke down and it was all over.

Every time I have seen this girl with the dark cloud hanging over her since then I wonder how the parents feel.... she was bridesmaid at probably 10 of her friends weddings, she has at least 8 godchildren, she works really hard and goes to lots of singles events. She is invited to friend's houses for dinners and BBq's on a regular basis but she has not met anyone who makes her feel like the farmer did, she hasn't been married or had kids of her own. All she wanted was to get married and have kids and be a mum and a wife...

Its all on the parents and its all to preserve the heritage, ironically there will not be any heritage cause there will not be any kids.

If you lived in China, then preserving your Chinese blood would be easy, basically no choice, but you don't.. unfortunately you have a smorgasbord of choices. So the 2 things I think you should consider are:
1. Fast forward 30 years, your kid who you love more than anything else in the world comes to you with aSwedish girl he fell in love with, u see him fhappy and content, he wants to marry her and he is asking you because nothing means more to him than your approval.... what do you say to CMK jnr?
2. You get bad news from the doctor tomorrow, maybe 5-7 years to live.... Are you going to rush out and find a pure Chinese girl to preserve the race.... Is that even going to be in your top 10 things to do?


BTW you fail to qualify as a bigot, or racist in my book.

By the way, thanks again for sharing the story. It is a little sad, but I hope she will eventually find happiness and love in her life. On that point of happiness, I had never even factor in if this preference of mine would be apart of it. This is something that I will have to look into deeper and with more clarity. I am happy at this stage to date other asian ethnicities, but on the question of wanting children (even at this stage, I am still adamant about a Chinese firstborn), I guess I will know when I finally cross that bridge.

cmk76
08-01-2013, 09:24 PM
Interesting but it appears that you don't have the same acceptance standards that you are expecting the girl to have towards you.

Indeed. Perhaps time and the 'girl' will help me see a different perspective? Until I meet that person, I cannot say for certain, if my standards will change.

cmk76
08-01-2013, 09:27 PM
Ethnic Chinese have already been mixing with other races for centuries, go to Mongolia where it borders Russia, go to central Asia eg Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and you will find many people of mixed chinese, european and Turk descent. In more recent times you can look at Macau with the Macanese people who are mixed Chinese and Portuguese. In regards to cmk76 wanting to preserve his chinese bloodlines, ask yourself this, if white people refuse to marry or date other nationalities they are immediately labeled racists, why do you think you are not racist, if you marry are white girl I think the Chinese race will be fine considering there are currently 1.3 billion living in China..

I do not quite understand the question or comment you made?.. "why do you think you are not racist, if you marry are white girl..."

cmk76
08-01-2013, 09:30 PM
2. You get bad news from the doctor tomorrow, maybe 5-7 years to live.... Are you going to rush out and find a pure Chinese girl to preserve the race.... Is that even going to be in your top 10 things to do?

Hehehe.. if that was a hypothethical question, I guess I could ask a 'friend' to donate her egg or 2 and look into the IVF option..

dannyboy
09-01-2013, 01:23 AM
What Im saying you are worried about preserving the chinese race, there are 1.3 billion chinese in China, no need to worry.. Regardless of who you marry your child still has your genes..

cmk76
10-01-2013, 10:42 AM
What Im saying you are worried about preserving the chinese race, there are 1.3 billion chinese in China, no need to worry.. Regardless of who you marry your child still has your genes..

Thanks for the clarification, dannyboy. I should elaborate that I would like to preserve my bloodline, as I am the last Chinese in my generation (of my family on my father's side) However, you are right, my child will have my genes regardless..