Market Research: is there a market for ladyboy in a RnT shop ??

[AHLUNGOR]

Hi Guys,

I would like to conduct a little marketing survey:

One of my Mamasan friend from a CBD shop was asking me if she hires a ladyboy as a massage person, will there be a market for that!

She told me a few advantages:
1. The LB will be very beautiful
2. Usually can expect a hot anf slim figure, most likely has a breast implant
3. Strong in massage
4. Understand what a man likes and wants and absolutely knows how to tease and touch
5. Will give a sensational HJ
6. BJ is not out of the question but that beyond the shops control.
7, no FS or anal (both give and receive ) but then again, can't control anyway.

So these are the facts!

My question is:

1. Anyone interested ?
2. If you are served by a LB, do you need to know before, what if only massage and HJ and topless are on offer, no pants off and no touching below, so make no difference right ? Or does it ?! Will you be pissed off if you are served by one and wasn't told!
3. If you know there is LB service will you specifically make a booking? Wil you pay more than the usual price? Will you tip more.
4. Apparently both pre Op and post Op are available . But will it make any different to your decision of like or dislike ?

Ok, now the cards are on the table.

Please share your thoughts ??

[AHLUNGOR]

Just received a couple of PMs from brothers showing their interest, and I have sent them the same reply to clarify some points:


Thanks for the PM mate,

Just to clarify, this is Not FS , it's RnT only in a massage shop so the standard menu are massage with HJ, with topless and mutual touching an optional extra, anything beyond that is strictly between you and the "ML"

But good to know you are interested

Stay tune

Cheers


Ps. For obvious reasons if people don't feel comfortable openly showing their interest in LB, you are welcome to PM me so that I can take some data of yes and no.

May be its time that I share my feel on this : to me it's an absolutely No, No, No !

I don't want a male, a trans or a ladyboy massage me or touch me in anyway whatsoever ! No if or buts ! Just me! And female only !! Woman only all the way !

Cheers

[greybeard_]

Disgusting

Any shop that starts hiring transvestites / male sex workers / rent boys etc can expect a different type of clientelle

Say goodbye to respectable, polite gentlemen in suits and say hello to creepy, sketched out paedophiles, drug users and queers.

[AHLUNGOR]

Disgusting

Any shop that starts hiring transvestites / male sex workers / rent boys etc can expect a different type of clientelle

Say goodbye to respectable, polite gentlemen in suits and say hello to creepy, sketched out paedophiles, drug users and queers.

Thanks for making your points !

I suppose privacy and discretion is the key here .

[SmilingGiraffe]

If she can find a gorgeous ladyboy like the one in the Hangover movie, then I'm interested.

[pantydropa]

Disgusting

Any shop that starts hiring transvestites / male sex workers / rent boys etc can expect a different type of clientelle

Say goodbye to respectable, polite gentlemen in suits and say hello to creepy, sketched out paedophiles, drug users and queers.

Nonsense post, ignorance at its best!

[SmilingGiraffe]

Nonsense post, ignorance at its best!

Well said Pd, this guy is constantly shooting off from the hip, he seems clueless to me and a born malcontent.

By the way.....what did you think of my poem on the other thread? I'd love to hear your opinion.

[Hornyonetwo]

Disgusting

Any shop that starts hiring transvestites / male sex workers / rent boys etc can expect a different type of clientelle

Say goodbye to respectable, polite gentlemen in suits and say hello to creepy, sketched out paedophiles, drug users and queers.
Each to their own.
There would be a market for this in sydney.
Just because this service is not to your tastes their are others it would suit.
It does not do anything for me but what i see and beleive to be normal is not what others think or believe.

[uglyphil]

AHLUNGOR, I do not know if my opinion counts as I prefer FS over ML anyway, but this would not be my cup of tea.

I tend to think that there would be a clientele for it though? However, getting the word out to a wider audience may prove problematic for your Mamasan. Just my 2c :)

[kobe7]

I will retire if that happens and if I did not know the person is a lb giving me an HJ .

[asiafever]

I would want to know first, be given a chance to see said lb first then make up my own mind. Some of you may have had this but never know. I have no interest in crossing swords that's for sure, but last time in singapore I met an unbelievable post op ts. I didn't stay with her but to be honest we only live once and I kinda tegret it.

[Oneonone]

For me it is a definite NO NO NO!

The shop must be up front about the person servicing the client in my case I expect a female nothing else is acceptable.

I respect others rights to be serviced by other than a lady that is their choice but it must be a choice with all the information available.

I would think twice about going to a shop with other than a lady doing the massage as I don't want to have the shop do a switch on me.

[AHLUNGOR]

AHLUNGOR, I do not know if my opinion counts as I prefer FS over ML anyway, but this would not be my cup of tea.

I tend to think that there would be a clientele for it though? However, getting the word out to a wider audience may prove problematic for your Mamasan. Just my 2c :)


Good point Phil ,

When the idea was first bounce off me by my friend. My immediate reason is , don't do it, I'm not coming back here!

Then she gave me some advantages of a LB and said she had worked in a shop where they had a couple and they were beautiful person and indeed very popular, lots of bookings. I then ask did the customers know, some did and some didn't . I said for me if I didn't know and I found out half way through I would be most angry and will not forgive the shop.

So I guess in the open, the majority is no, balanced by a couple of PMs asking me where is the shop.......lol

Then how about this, may be a specialty shop where the entire shop is staffed by LB and only cater to those who are interested plus perhaps the female clients - no sex of course, just massage, facial (not that kind of cof facial ) and may be spa and foot and nails treatments?

Alternatively, assuming that most of the LB are Thai, how about a Thai massage shop with two separate sections, or two teams in different colour uniform and different pricing structures, like the girls will be at the regular price range and wearing a plain colour uniform . The LB will be charging a more premium price and wearing a rainbow colour uniform , something like that! And the customers will be told why there is a different before paying!

Btw, it is not illegal to staff a massage shop with LB right?

You guys just like to know in advance and make an informed choice rather than given one without knowing , correct ??

[AHLUNGOR]

More feedbacks please !

[garfield]

Not my cup of tea, I like real tits and woman.

But I imagine there might be a market for it.

[max_power]

Absolutely disgusting. Where has humanity gone wrong

[iphone5]

Absolutely disgusting. Where has humanity gone wrong

It's amusing how many respondents have said 'it's not MCOT but I'm sure there is a market for it' haha

[mak695]

1. Anyone interested ? I'm not but there might be a small market
2. If you are served by a LB, do you need to know before,Yes what if only massage and HJ and topless are on offer, no pants off and no touching below, so make no difference right ? Or does it ?! Still makes a difference because its not a female Will you be pissed off if you are served by one and wasn't told! Yes
3. If you know there is LB service will you specifically make a booking? Wil you pay more than the usual price? Will you tip more. No
4. Apparently both pre Op and post Op are available . But will it make any different to your decision of like or dislike ? No, still dislike

Like a few have said it is wrong and not the norm, but there would probly be a small market in Sydney for it.

[kingwally]

No thanks...I exclusively prefer a 100000% born natural female!

[CunningLinguist]

I am not into LBs and if I know a shop has any I won't be going there.

[DarkZero01]

1. Anyone interested ? I'm not but there might be a small market
2. If you are served by a LB, do you need to know before,Yes what if only massage and HJ and topless are on offer, no pants off and no touching below, so make no difference right ? Or does it ?! Still makes a difference because its not a female Will you be pissed off if you are served by one and wasn't told! Yes
3. If you know there is LB service will you specifically make a booking? Wil you pay more than the usual price? Will you tip more. No
4. Apparently both pre Op and post Op are available . But will it make any different to your decision of like or dislike ? No, still dislike

Like a few have said it is wrong and not the norm, but there would probly be a small market in Sydney for it.

couldn't say it any better than myself.
and please let us know which RNT pace has LB so most of us knows which shop to avoid cheers

[lakeshow]

No thanks. Not at all.

But like all our brothers have suggested, I'm sure there would be a market for it.

For me, there is nothing more sweeter than a NATURALLY BORN FEMALE sliding her breasts over your back whilst pressing her fingers into you back, and massaging you.

I know there are more readers than posters, and some would probably be keen on the idea, but for us regulars, I think it's a unanimous no.

Plus, if your mamasan does go ahead with her idea, good for her, but we all should be informed before we open our wallets on who is going to be available to serve us.

[AHLUNGOR]

Not my cup of tea, I like real tits and woman.

But I imagine there might be a market for it.

Yeah, I think most people are thinking along the same line, No, but there may be a market out there!

And of course, those who are interested would send me a PM but not openly say yes in the forum which is total understood .

Nothing gay of course, just something different plus a little bit of curiosity !

I wonder if we can take a poll without names, then may be we can see a 100 no and perhaps 99 yes .........lol

Just kidding !

[greybeard_]

So yeh, also the council may be willing to turn a blind eye to girls in massage shops giving the occassional sly handy for additional tip

But how do you think they would feel about a shop full of transgender cross-dressing male sex workers sucking cock for money?

In summary - lady boys will get more attention from the council authorities and the shop is more likely to be shut down

[greybeard_]

And yes - receiving a HJ from a male transvestite is gay (or at least bicurious) Lets call a spade a spade

what the fuck Ahlungor, why are you promoting this shit in the forum? it just aint right


Nothing gay of course, just something different plus a little bit of curiosity !!

[Milf_Man]

Definitely not interested in anyone who has or has had a dick in their lifetime.

The very thought of it is repulsive enough.

[Wayne]

Mascot Studio, 413 Gardeners Road, Eastlakes. A Thai shop with some gorgeous girls...and boys.

[AHLUNGOR]

And yes - receiving a HJ from a male transvestite is gay (or at least bicurious) Lets call a spade a spade

what the fuck Ahlungor, why are you promoting this shit in the forum? it just aint right


I am not promoting it, my friend asked me the question, I said not me straight away but I agreed to help and ask around, that's what I am doing here.

In the open, it's overwhelmingly NO NO NO, but privately, there are some interests. may be at the ratio of 4 to 1 so far.

The way I see it, if this is not for you, move on,

But we should not look down on any human beings and call them shit, ladyboys or not. They are trying to make a living by providing some services which may or may not suit everyone. This is no different than a gay shop, isn't it ? and we as a society have learn to accept gay and lesbian people have we not ??

Just my two cents

:question:

[uglyphil]

The way I see it, if this is not for you, move on,

But we should not look down on any human beings and call them shit, ladyboys or not. They are trying to make a living by providing some services which may or may not suit everyone. This is no different than a gay shop, isn't it ? and we as a society have learn to accept gay and lesbian people have we not ??

Just my two cents

:question:

Well said.

But as to the last part of your post, I'm afraid that the continued opposition to marriage equality and the rather phobic posts by some here (and elsewhere, I might add, it isn't confined to this forum), it seems we are still a long way from acceptance.

[CunningLinguist]

Yeah, I think most people are thinking along the same line, No, but there may be a market out there!

And of course, those who are interested would send me a PM but not openly say yes in the forum which is total understood .

Nothing gay of course, just something different plus a little bit of curiosity !

I wonder if we can take a poll without names, then may be we can see a 100 no and perhaps 99 yes .........lol

Just kidding !

Predictably SG seems to be the only one interested ...

[AHLUNGOR]

Predictably SG seems to be the only one interested ...


Haha, in this Alpha Male dominated punting site, of course people will be hesitated in expressing interests.

I wonder if 3Clive is still around what would be says ??

Btw, what are the ladies point of view in regards to getting a massage from a ladyboy ? May be just a legit massage ??

Where is sisters Isis, Sha and Sei and Co ??

[greybeard_]

Aren't there already homosexual brothels around for you people to visit???


If she can find a gorgeous ladyboy like the one in the Hangover movie, then I'm interested.

[greybeard_]

Ah Wayne, why am I not suprised...


Mascot Studio, 413 Gardeners Road, Eastlakes. A Thai shop with some gorgeous girls...and boys.

[CunningLinguist]

If she can find a gorgeous ladyboy like the one in the Hangover movie, then I'm interested.

I think this one might be more in your class:
http://cracker.com.au/sydney-nsw/erotic/escorts-adult-services/sexy-thai-trans-cartier/404260197/advert.htm

[SmilingGiraffe]

I think this one might be more in your class:
http://cracker.com.au/sydney-nsw/erotic/escorts-adult-services/sexy-thai-trans-cartier/404260197/advert.htm

That's your self-portrait CL, how long have you been advertising on cracker?
I like quality in everything - women, poetry, ladyboys, intellect, etc. That's why you and I don't get along.

[CunningLinguist]

That's your self-portrait CL, how long have you been advertising on cracker?
I like quality in everything - women, poetry, ladyboys, intellect, etc. That's why you and I don't get along.

I am constantly suprised by your childish tit-for-tat responses, you don't seem to have a bone of originality in your body, hang on I forgot I was talking to a shit-stirring troll (http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?39297-Banned-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again), what came over me ...

[SmilingGiraffe]

I am constantly suprised by your childish tit-for-tat responses, you don't seem to have a bone of originality in your body, hang on I forgot I was talking to a shit-stirring troll (http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?39297-Banned-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again), what came over me ...

What sort of individual enjoys to swipe at a member, but is then "constantly surprised" when the recipient responds like-wise to you?
Anyway, didn't you say you were "ignoring" my posts and or that you "don't read them." You still seem to spend a lot of time "not reading" my posts.
Your feathers got ruffled a long time ago and you haven't been able to move on, that's just the way it is I'm afraid.

[CunningLinguist]

blah blah blah crybaby trollspeak ...

I am largely ignoring your posts, especially the far right political trash and the "poetry" trash, I still may read the odd one by accident.
Unfortunately for you you have shown your true colours and thus have no credibility and mojo, so rather than respond to your pathetic drivel I will let the public record speak for itself ... (http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?39297-Banned-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again)

[SmilingGiraffe]

I am largely ignoring your posts, especially the far right political trash and the "poetry" trash, I still may read the odd one by accident.
Unfortunately for you you have shown your true colours and thus have no credibility and mojo, so rather than respond to your pathetic drivel I will let the public record speak for itself ... (http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?39297-Banned-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again)

Your fixation with me should be an embarassment to you CL.
Nobody is listening anymore, truly embarassing. Try to move on sweetheart.

[CunningLinguist]

Nobody is listening anymore, truly embarassing. Try to move on sweetheart.

I think these words must strike a resonance within for you ...

[SmilingGiraffe]

I think these words must strike a resonance within for you ...

Yet, I have a some members who continue to show interest and support for what I say both in poetry and elsewhere.
And I'm sure there some other visitors who have fun with it too. I'm not looking to change the world, I'm not expecting
to gain a legion of poetry fans from the forum. I'm having a some fun, sharing some creativity and other interesting ideas
with a few people who are interested, whether they be members or visitors. You seem to have trouble digesting that.

[CunningLinguist]

Yet, I have a some members who continue to show interest and support for what I say both in poetry and elsewhere.
And I'm sure there some other visitors who have fun with it too. I'm not looking to change the world, I'm not expecting
to gain a legion of poetry fans from the forum. I'm having a some fun, sharing some creativity and other interesting ideas
with a few people who are interested, whether they be members or visitors. You seem to have trouble digesting that.

If you go back and look you will find that most people are ignoring your posts and that you interpret mocking responses as support.
Maybe you are really trying to be less of a shit stirring troll, but if history (http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?39297-Banned-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again) is any guide I doubt it.
If you were genuine you probably would have an appreciation of what it feels like trying to get a job with a criminal record ...

[AHLUNGOR]

Too bad there is no facilities in this forum where we can start a poll !!

I posted this same thread in the other forum and started a poll and the result so far is very interesting:

*****************************

View Poll Results:

Will you be interested in trying a ladyboy in a massage shop, based on RnT only !!

Voters 25.

You have already voted on this poll

This poll will close on 28th July 2014 at 03:34 PM


POLLS:

Yes, I like to try if the person looks good and gives good massage and HE ! 9 votes = 36.00%

NO ! Not interested what so ever, only like real woman ! 10 votes = 40.00%

May be, like to meet the person first, but I must be informed of her status 6 votes = 24.00%

[wilisno]

Too bad there is no facilities in this forum where we can start a poll !!


Of course there is, polls had been conducted here before !

[AHLUNGOR]

Of course there is, polls had been conducted here before !


I know there were polls here before, haven't seen one for ages and I think the Admin has to set it up right ??

the other poll I did it all by my myself, it's much easier !!

Well then, the three options and the title are all here, can we start one at AUS99 please ?

[wilisno]

I know there were polls here before, haven't seen one for ages and I think the Admin has to set it up right ??

the other poll I did it all by my myself, it's much easier !!

Well then, the three options and the title are all here, can we start one at AUS99 please ?
Posting the request on the forum won't get you anywhere, send a pm to aus99 admin !

BTW, in case you haven't noticed, Auxxxreview and Aus99 use the same web design !

[AHLUNGOR]

Posting the request on the forum won't get you anywhere, send a pm to aus99 admin !

BTW, in case you haven't noticed, Auxxxreview and Aus99 use the same web design !


I know, and I wonder why so many of the good features are disabled here ??

1. The LIKE button would be fantastic !

2. To ask and be accepted as Friends !

3. And to be able to view who are viewing which threads - this feature used to be available here, but it was disabled later, wonder why ?? If my memory served correctly, I used to be able to tell how many viewers are reading the Snow Lotus thread at any given time, I think the record was twenty something people, can't remember now, those were the days.

So, to ask a favour from the Admin? don't think they will help me anyway. If I can't do it myself, then I won't bother.

[wilisno]

I know, and I wonder why so many of the good features are disabled here ??

1. The LIKE button would be fantastic !

2. To ask and be accepted as Friends !

3. And to be able to view who are viewing which threads - this feature used to be available here, but it was disabled later, wonder why ?? If my memory served correctly, I used to be able to tell how many viewers are reading the Snow Lotus thread at any given time, I think the record was twenty something people, can't remember now, those were the days.

So, to ask a favour from the Admin? don't think they will help me anyway. If I can't do it myself, then I won't bother.
Don't bother then !

Too many features attracted too many spams, leading to overloading the server, that's why they were disabled !

[TastefulHumper]

Of course there is, polls had been conducted here before !

That's right, there was a poetry poll not so long ago.

[wilisno]

That's right, there was a poetry poll not so long ago.
That was a joke, not a poll, and don't you try to provoke my response again !

[Isis]

I haven't read the this whole thread as I think it started going off track a bit, but in my opinion as a female (not she - male Hehe), and ex WL I most certainly think there is a market for lady boys in r&t AND f's shops. I also don't find it to be vulgar or disgusting etc, keeping an open mind that sexual gratification is NOT black and white..therefore different courses for different horses should be available. If it's not your cup of tea then lucky u don't have to drink it as there's 'choices' for heterosexuals, homosexuals, bi - curious and all in between :)))

Peace

Xx Isis xX

[Isis]

Oh... and I forgot to mention that in my experience having worked in both lower-end and higher-end establishments (fs not massage) i know of quite a number of discreet requests for escorts that r trans - gender. I suspect such 'discreet' requests would not exclude massage shops either...

Xxx love n light fellas!

[AHLUNGOR]

I haven't read the this whole thread as I think it started going off track a bit, but in my opinion as a female (not she - male Hehe), and ex WL I most certainly think there is a market for lady boys in r&t AND f's shops. I also don't find it to be vulgar or disgusting etc, keeping an open mind that sexual gratification is NOT black and white..therefore different courses for different horses should be available. If it's not your cup of tea then lucky u don't have to drink it as there's 'choices' for heterosexuals, homosexuals, bi - curious and all in between :)))

Peace

Xx Isis xX


Thanks for your comments sister Isis from someone with the inside informations.............haha

[AHLUNGOR]

Oh... and I forgot to mention that in my experience having worked in both lower-end and higher-end establishments (fs not massage) i know of quite a number of discreet requests for escorts that r trans - gender. I suspect such 'discreet' requests would not exclude massage shops either...

Xxx love n light fellas!


The latest poll results of this topic:


View Poll Results: Will you be interested in trying a ladyboy in a massage shop, based on RnT only !!

Voters 34. You have already voted on this poll

This poll will close on 28th July 2014 at 03:34 PM

Yes, I like to try if the person looks good and gives good massage and HE ! 12 votes = 35.29%

NO ! Not interested what so ever, only like real woman ! 14 votes = 41.18%

May be, like to meet the person first, but I must be informed of her status 8 votes = 23.53%


with a total of 20 votes on Yes and May be vs. 14 of no. I think this could work for my friend, just need to inform all the punters before hand I suppose !!

Cheers

:cool2:

[carmen farquis]

I think it could change the whole atmosphere of the shop, Instead of having relatively normal guys going there you could have all these old gay weirdo's hanging around.

Its bad enough bumping into another punter let alone someone who just got a hj of a lady boy

[Isis]

Sorry, just my opinion here Carmen f, but you'd actually be surprised how many suit-wearing/successful, respected business owners$ entrepreneurs who r needing/wanting this kind of service to be available (discteetly ). The stereotyped misconception u seem to have that ppl after a lady boy service seems very old school ie: old gay weirdos. From my experience some of the types of men who go to "straight" parlors are some of the lowest, inconsiderate, disrespectful 'weirdos' I've ever met. (No offense to those true gentlemen I have had the pleasure of spending time with...and there have been many). But your limited way of thinking makes me think of old fashioned judgment that ALL working girls are drug addicted, uneducated women.

Cheers

[Sextus]

If you are gay then you are gay. But if you aren't gay I fail to see how there can be any appeal in sucking male dna down your throat.

[Isis]

Agreed sextus, my friend. If shops do employ both hetro & trans or l/boy services it should be clearly advertised so people r aware of what they r getting or wanting to recieve or NOT recieve. None the less, I do know there is a market for this...sought after by all types of all social economic classes etc...

Also though... There r those who may believe they r not gay... just needing/wanting to experiment. Or those from social conditioning or upbringing who may feel great shame in having such urges to try a r&t or fs by a ladyboy (to name a few). What ever the case, I feel for others to put such people in a stereotyped box of negativity simply due to their difference in sexual arousal/intimacy is just plain ignorance and narrow mindedness. Diversity approached with respect and acceptance or awareness that we r all different with different needs can't be a bad thing. We all don't have to like the same as our fellow brothers and sisters, but doesn't mean that the things we don't personally agree with shouldn't be accessible to those that don't fit into mainstream societal norms - whatever 'normal is'.

[Sextus]

I was just calling a fact. I feel a visceral repulsion towards consuming male dna. It is not something I'm responsible for, just as those who like to consume it aren't responsible for that either. I wasn't criticising anyone.

[SirLaughsAlot]

Poets are renowned for their sexual prowess and, how shall I say this, "spirit of adventure."
Byron, Shelley, Coleridge, CrazyMonkey, SirLaughsAlot, all have a certain interest in such matters.

Yeah baby......

[CunningLinguist]

Poets are renowned for their sexual prowess and, how shall I say this, "spirit of adventure."
Byron, Shelley, Coleridge, CrazyMonkey, SirLaughsAlot, all have a certain interest in such matters.

Yeah baby......

What a self-aggrandising twat you are. No wonder you have been banned 23 times ... (http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?39297-Banned-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again)

[CunningLinguist]

I was just calling a fact. I feel a visceral repulsion towards consuming male dna. It is not something I'm responsible for, just as those who like to consume it aren't responsible for that either. I wasn't criticising anyone.

I agree, if I even suspect a ladyboy works in a shop I won't be visiting.
The sex industry is not exactly known for it's high standards and the pressure to make profits sometimes at any "cost" is ever present, so if a ladyboy is free then it wouldn't suprise me if a greedy mamasan tries to trick an unsuspecting punter.

[SirLaughsAlot]

What a self-agrandising twat you are. No wonder you have been banned 23 times ... (http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?39297-Banned-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again)

There are two "G" in aggrandising, and neither Proximo or DiamondEyes were my creations, so your numbers in the table are wrong, just like your spelling.
Your table actually says 24, but it should really say 22. I'm a stickler for accuracy CL, and I don't want anyone else getting credited with my moves.

[AHLUNGOR]

I have some fairly reliable mail that some LBs are already working in legit Thai massage places all over Sydney at the moment !

And mainly due to the restrictions imposed by the shop that no part II is allowed so neither provided not received - and as a result, many unsuspecting punters may have already been served part I by LBs and not aware of !

Funny thing was, these LBs are always being pressured to provide extras like HJ or nude HJ and more - it makes me wonder if the punters actually become aware of the real status, will they be still trying to get past the second base !

As the survey is producing some initial results which is quite positive that there will be a market for it.

So this is how I envisage it will work:


1. Say shop A is the place where a LB will be employed , the owner will select the person carefully to ensure she is attractive and has a nice body, good massage skills etc , assuming part II is good.

2. The LB will be rostered on a set day, her name and work day will be advertised here in this and the other forum, so any interested party can plan and make advance booking .

3. In order to avoid embarrassment and awkwardness, the LB will be introduced to walk in customers as massage only person, if the customer is ok with it, then and only in the privacy inside the room will the Mamasan advise the customer that the person is LB before accepting payment ! If customer is ok to continue , then it's all good to go.

4. Customers who make booking to see the LB of course will have full knowledge of the situation and no further advice by the shop is necessary !

What do you guys think, this can work ??

Please give your opinion ??

[AHLUNGOR]

One more question , for all those ney sayers, do you have the same approach towards a LB who still has the dick vs a trans who already has the operation (post OP) and No more dick !!

You feel the same? or you are more acceptable to be touched and jerk off by someone who doesn't have a dick no more ??

Any different ?

Or in your own mind, will you consider a post OP person is already a woman ??

[Cunt Destroyer]

I noticed you're one of those guys that calls a tranvestite 'she'. I wonder, is this just a nod to political correctness or do really consider them as such?

Anyway, Australia as a society has become more tolerant of homosexuals. I understand that. There is this widespread view that what they do in the privacy of their own home is their business. I agree with this.

But cross-dressing transvestites are a different story altogether. Bringing that fucked up shit into a hetero brothel, where punters have their cocks out and bodily fluids are being exchanged, is just wrong on so many levels!

Sure, theres a few old queers who will jump on the chance for a sneaky Hj from a young boy on the down low, but the response by 99% of customers will be negative.

Wait till words gets out that shop XYZ is provding gay sex services. Watch that shops reputation be tattered. Watch it get blacklisted. Watch the council close that shit hole down!!



I have some fairly reliable mail that some LBs are already working in legit Thai massage places all over Sydney at the moment !

And mainly due to the restrictions imposed by the shop that no part II is allowed so neither provided not received - and as a result, many unsuspecting punters may have already been served part I by LBs and not aware of !

Funny thing was, these LBs are always being pressured to provide extras like HJ or nude HJ and more - it makes me wonder if the punters actually become aware of the real status, will they be still trying to get past the second base !

As the survey is producing some initial results which is quite positive that there will be a market for it.

So this is how I envisage it will work:


1. Say shop A is the place where a LB will be employed , the owner will select the person carefully to ensure she is attractive and has a nice body, good massage skills etc , assuming part II is good.

2. The LB will be rostered on a set day, her name and work day will be advertised here in this and the other forum, so any interested party can plan and make advance booking .

3. In order to avoid embarrassment and awkwardness, the LB will be introduced to walk in customers as massage only person, if the customer is ok with it, then and only in the privacy inside the room will the Mamasan advise the customer that the person is LB before accepting payment ! If customer is ok to continue , then it's all good to go.

4. Customers who make booking to see the LB of course will have full knowledge of the situation and no further advice by the shop is necessary !

What do you guys think, this can work ??

Please give your opinion ??

[AHLUNGOR]

I noticed you're one of those guys that calls a tranvestite 'she'. I wonder, is this just a nod to political correctness or do really consider them as such?

Anyway, Australia as a society has become more tolerant of homosexuals. I understand that. There is this widespread view that what they do in the privacy of their own home is their business. I agree with this.

But cross-dressing transvestites are a different story altogether. Bringing that fucked up shit into a hetero brothel, where punters have their cocks out and bodily fluids are being exchanged, is just wrong on so many levels!

Sure, theres a few old queers who will jump on the chance for a sneaky Hj from a young boy on the down low, but the response by 99% of customers will be negative.

Wait till words gets out that shop XYZ is provding gay sex services. Watch that shops reputation be tattered. Watch it get blacklisted. Watch the council close that shit hole down!!


Another 8 inches again !!

[Massageguy]

Hi Isis,
It is so lovely to sit back and take in your words of wisdom.
You are always happy to share your insight from another perspective with us, and for that , I'm sure we are all grateful.
Glad to hear you are well. Keep Sharing .

P.S. I miss our quiet drinks, long chats and laughter !!!!
Drop me a PM sometime

[AHLUNGOR]

This photo is dedicated to the lovely sister Isis !!


http://37.media.tumblr.com/645bed587c7657121ae59c3d637bf8d8/tumblr_n6nrd25jGG1rb4iemo1_1280.jpg

[Sextus]

All this talk about inadvertant sexual interaction with male dna in my final post for the night must have prompted my dream last night!

I was with Kylie Minogue, who is the very definition of the hottest of real femininity, and she had just flown me in her light plane from Miller's Point to the Balmain Peninsula. (Don't ask me how that was practical, it was just a friggin' dream!)

To edit out some of the subsequent detail (in which we visited the fish markets) we ended up at a hotel for the night with an anonymous male acquaintance of mine.

Kylie slept between us.

The night must have passed, my dream edited that part out, but next it was first thing in the morning and my acquaintance had got up to go to the bathroom, which woke me up. (Ha! asleep, I had been dreaming I was asleep.)

A nude Kylie, next to me, woke up too.

I pulled down the sheet to look at her, and her bare pussy was completely splashed and dripping with come!

That was my dream filling in the action of the previous night - ha ha! Very considerate!

"You've still got the come all over you Kylie" I commented.

She giggled and said "Mmm...yes."

The sight of her cum dripping bare pussy and her sleepy, kittenish reaction to it suddenly made me feel really hot.

I launched myself at her mouth and began devouring it. The same things must have made her feel hot too because I felt her very fullish and perky tits (for her petite size) swell with her passion against my chest and her nipples jabbed at me with a new pointiness.

Man, I was super aroused, and got between her legs, which she spread in completely welcoming compliance, and I slid it in to her bareback right to the hilt.

Ha ha! The very presence and sight of the come on Kylie's come splashed bare pussy - not all of which was mine - was a big part of the heat of it all.

Now that was my dream, and it worked in that, big time, but in real life I feel I still may harbour some reservations. Or maybe it just needed the heat of the uber-feminine Kylie Minogue to completely feminise the come.

Probably it was that. There is something to that, as I have snowballed in the past.

Anyway, make of it what you will. At least it feels like I've f**ked Kylie :slobber: - and you haven't! :miao:

[Isis]

Thanks my dear friends massageguy and Ahlungor. Yes, I'm sure my views don't sit well with everybody and that's okay..it's just such an interesting topic of discussion. Maybe someone should start a thread along the lines of "when 'straight' guys come into a massage or full service shop asking the WL if she could slip a couple of fingers in their a** or even penetration with other objects for sexual gratification does that make them gay????"(apologies as now I'm getting off the beaten track). Anyhoooo I like reading the differing opinions as it certainly says a lot about someone. As does the forum name "cunt destroyer". I mean really..... that's class!! - NOT!

[AHLUNGOR]

Anyway, make of it what you will. At least it feels like I've f**ked Kylie :slobber: - and you haven't! :miao:


Haha, Kylie, I do like her music and her dance move, but when it cums to sexual gratifications, give me the younger sister with the bigger enhanced tits - Danni anytime !!

Oh, how about Danni's fellow judges: the ex Spice girl with the perfect sun tan, another MILF, or is it Mel !! gee, love to fuck those big brown tits !! :cool2:

[Sextus]

asking the WL if she could slip a couple of fingers in their a** or even penetration with other objects for sexual gratification does that make them gay????

Aah no dear Isis, that is mere physiology. The presence of bundles of sexually sensitive nerves in that area, whether you are male or female.

True, some guys prefer to deny themselves this, but that is a matter of their headspace illogically denying their physiology. That is a Darwinian fact completely indifferent to their headspace.

[Isis]

Fair point my friend. I guess it confirms I did go off the beaten track, and didn't think my statement through in regards to the context but I guess on the whole subject I was thinking there's such a variety of differing sexual needs for a person, and what some people think is 'ok' and a turn on may be completely vulgar, 'gay' etc etc to another. That doesn't mean those services shouldn't be made available in an establishment. If i had a shop I certainly wouldn't rule out the fact it cld be beneficial to cater for a variety of needs to that individual, discreetly and respectfully.

[AHLUNGOR]

I wonder what will you do when you walk into a Thai massage shop and was shown this line up ??


http://jameswaites.ilatech.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/xin_59020415202076465187.jpg

[AHLUNGOR]

These lots may not be all rated 10 out of 10 in looks but I will imagine some of them could turn a few heads!


http://www.ulstertatler.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/ladyboys.jpg


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-H2cAJTMtZG8/T6HkgdQa_vI/AAAAAAAAmdY/bzKYVDJcNZ8/s1600/photo-756986.JPG


http://s10.postimg.org/yrk8iy83d/pattaya.png

[AHLUNGOR]

There are a lot more positive comments from members in the other forums, may be due to the fact a poll is being taken there, but I think it will be worthwhile seeing other perspectives on the matter !!



My answer would be Yes. It will need to be transparent about their status and availability.



Regardless of the voting on this forum, there's definitely a place for transsexual workers... just look at the listings on sites such as backpage. For whatever reason, the activity is increasing exponentially and those reasons could perhaps be explored on another thread.

There are traditional brothels already advertising - eg. at Cromer in Sydney's north. There are other shops where LBs work at different times. But possibly due to a vague fear of being judged by others who appear opposed to such fun, reviews appear less frequently. There are a number of punters here who indulge... self included... who derive significant enjoyment from the occasional 'walk on the wild side'. Whether that would extend to massage only remains to be seen. The self-declared "players" would probably not want to stop at RnT!

From my own perspective, a good massage and hand relief is enjoyable regardless of the gender of the service provider. For example, a few days ago I had a fantastic massage and surprise perfect tug from a masseur (as distinct from a masseuse, for the spelling-challenged) at a relatively new shop. Quite unexpected but I just went with the flow... most enjoyable.

Suspend judgement, ye doubters... :lol:



Yes totally agree different strokes for different blokes, it can certainly scratch the itch for those who want it scratched and as someone who has ventured down the other paths as others on this and other forums do I think it will definitely float, as it has already floated my boat, tell me where and when so I can sample the wares.

Happy punting all



Lungor,

I think you have your answer, it seems a yes, in which case please make your recommendations to your friend, and then let us know which shop is offering this extra service.

Cheers

Chalk

[AHLUNGOR]

Fair point my friend. I guess it confirms I did go off the beaten track, and didn't think my statement through in regards to the context but I guess on the whole subject I was thinking there's such a variety of differing sexual needs for a person, and what some people think is 'ok' and a turn on may be completely vulgar, 'gay' etc etc to another. That doesn't mean those services shouldn't be made available in an establishment. If i had a shop I certainly wouldn't rule out the fact it cld be beneficial to cater for a variety of needs to that individual, discreetly and respectfully.

Hi sister, you may or may not have read the OP, I did declare right from the start that I am a no voter to the topic !

Was only doing a favour for my friend to see some feedback in the market to know what can she expect when she does employ a LB or a trans .

While I am not interested myself, I am at peace with any one who cares to try ! It is not necessarily a gay thing, it's just something different or curious to some people I guess !!

Some people earlier was saying let him know which shop it is and he will stay away. Something he didn't know though it's that a lot of wild things that happened behind closed doors! RnT shops or FS shops are alike .

While we should always respect everyone privacy and not pass judgement . Sex and sexual gratifications is a basic human needs and human rights, as long as they are performed or conducted between consenting adults, It is really none of everyone else business.

My two cents

Cheers

[asiafever]

I think there is a lot of unnecessary machismo nonsense about this. If it's not for you, say so, and that's fine, but all this talk of "disgusting, perverted, fucked up" etc etc is judgemental bullshit frankly. If it's not your cup of tea, all good, but for some people (I'm not one, never tried, but seeing as we only live once I may be coerced to try a rnt from a pre op or post op, depending on how hot she was, but at the same time when faced with it I may decide it's not for me also) it is, and it seems like quite a few judging by those who ahlungor said pm'd him and what Isis said, as well as just how many there are in places like Singapore, Bangkok etc.

So how about we refrain from the childish name calling, yeah?
You do realise that to a percentage of the population, we here are already deviant perverts? So why would we be vociferous in our own defence, yet those that may have a little fetish, and open to the idea of seeing what it is like, oh man THEY are the animals! Sounds hypocritical to me.


http://www.teddyaward.tv/pix_upload/galerien/harisu/images/Harisu-1.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TM91bEb-5VY/UjkPq6nqtCI/AAAAAAABO_g/xg1rEZMDH7E/s640/Harisu.jpg

This is Harisu, she was born a male. If she were peeling down your jocks and asked if you wanted a hj, how many of you would say no? Be honest? Some of you may well have already had a hj from a LB and not even know, it does not make you gay. And so what if you are bi? IS that such an awful thing?

And while some of you say homosexuality repulses you, you do realise lesbians are homosexuals right? By watching lesbian porn you are in to gay porn, yeah? I am not in to watching guys on guys, I'll be the first to admit, but I'll not judge those that are. I know guys who think looking at porn where you can see another mans cock is gay. Think about it, you are watching another mans penis and watching him cum and it makes you cum. EH GADS! And then if you're watching a gangbang, there's only one female and multiple guys! Multiple cocks! Hmmmm. In a place such as this, each to their own, as long as nobody is hurt and no (serious) laws are broken...

Let's quit some of the archaic stereotyping. I didn't see anywhere that said by getting a rnt from said ladyboy suddenly you would be giving them a bbbj. And this talk of dirty old poof weirdos, I couldn't agree more with what Isis said, another stereotype based in our own fears and conditioning, let's be honest, where are you more likely to find more dirty old poof weirdos, in a city rnt venue, or at a Catholic Bishops convention? Think about it...

That's my rant done and dusted...

[Cunt Destroyer]

You self-important, self-righteous twat.
You obviously think you are the centre of the moral universe.

So what if some people find transvestite sex workers 'disgusting' or 'perveted'? Stop tryin to impose your 1990s politically correct agenda on others. Fuck you

[Sextus]

Cunt Destroyer dude, you undermine yourself by arguing the man and not the points. For mine, I find your handle hilariously politically incorrect, so if you could argue with similar irony it would be much better.

[asiafever]

What a charmer you are. Centre of the moral universe? Hardly. Just prepared to call a narrow-minded bigot or hypocrite when I see one.

[Sextus]

What a charmer you are a narrow-minded bigot or hypocrite

The insults are flying now! :question:

[asiafever]

I called nobody in particular a hypocrite or narrow-minded bigot. I do find some of the views I covered from several of the posts to fit in this category. CD took umbrage, possibly because he didn't like his pov being questioned in such manner, really not my concern.

[Sextus]

And while some of you say homosexuality repulses you, you do realise lesbians are homosexuals right? By watching lesbian porn you are in to gay porn, yeah?

He he..I'm afraid this is the universal out asiafever. Girl on girl action is merely femininity x 2 or more from an heteros' point of view.


I know guys who think looking at porn where you can see another mans cock is gay. Think about it, you are watching another mans penis and watching him cum and it makes you cum. EH GADS!

Ha ha! That is funny mate. But this is also taken into account by the principle of identification. Their cock's are but mere stand ins for your own. Take the girl out of the clip and the heteros run a mile from it. So when those video cocks part those hot pussy lips (assuming you are wanking, or thinking of wanking) it is not their cock doing it, but yours.


And then if you're watching a gangbang, there's only one female and multiple guys! Multiple cocks! Hmmmm.

Speaking from real life experience, a gangbang is no more than live, 3D, interactive porn. :D Believe me, unless the guys are on the girl at any one time, you just don't see them, they are invisible like the furniture.

[asiafever]

Oh I agree with all you've written there sextus. No argument at all from me, but it is all based on a point of view. I have read your gangbang reports with great interest, and would like to try some day. I have a friend, her and her partner are swingers, not my cup of tea but good luck to them, when one of the mum's from the school found out she was basically run out of the area, kids harassed etc. Awful stuff.

[AHLUNGOR]

You self-important, self-righteous twat.
You obviously think you are the centre of the moral universe.

So what if some people find transvestite sex workers 'disgusting' or 'perveted'? Stop tryin to impose your 1990s politically correct agenda on others. Fuck you


The Destroyer is gonna be banned again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again..............!!

[uglyphil]

I concur with everything AHLUNGOR, isis and asiafever has said. Well said you three!

As to CD, I am just waiting for him to say how much he likes certain "poetry" to confirm my suspicions ;)

[Sextus]

I should add that it isn't fair to condemn those who find male homosexual sex repulsive. Not the man, the act. We were born that way. Just as homosexuals and trannies were born that way. If we didn't find the act repulsive and instead found it attractive, we would, ipso facto, be homosexuals. Or variants of. In the case of transexual's, this subject of this thread, the act may be dressed up with a pair of artificial tits, but every cell in their bodies is still full of XY's!

Don't mistake distaste for condemnation though. Because I can't help but feel distaste when I contemplate some bloke fiddling with and sucking a slack, tiny, barely functional penis and a couple of micro balls drowning in a sea of oestrogen tablets! :shout:

[asiafever]

That is a black and white view. Just because you don't find it repulsive doesn't mean you therefore find it attractive, or vice verca. The church has an awful cop out line they pull out when condemning gays etc to hell. "We only hate the sin not the sinner.". Like I said, whatever people do behind closed doors is their business, and perfectly valid in it's own right. I agree that distaste for the act and condemnation of those involved are two different things, just as some find gangbangs repulsive or even the idea of visiting a brothel. We're all individuals. We're all different. ("I'm not...")

[CunningLinguist]

3. In order to avoid embarrassment and awkwardness, the LB will be introduced to walk in customers as massage only person, if the customer is ok with it, then and only in the privacy inside the room will the Mamasan advise the customer that the person is LB before accepting payment ! If customer is ok to continue , then it's all good to go.


I think they should pay homage to the Red Dwarf character Arnold Judas Rimmer by displaying the letter LB somewhere on their person :)

Seriously I don't want to see the person if they are a LB, so better not to do the walk by.

[CunningLinguist]

One more question , for all those ney sayers, do you have the same approach towards a LB who still has the dick vs a trans who already has the operation (post OP) and No more dick !!

You feel the same? or you are more acceptable to be touched and jerk off by someone who doesn't have a dick no more ??

Any different ?

Or in your own mind, will you consider a post OP person is already a woman ??

I feel the same about dickfull and dickless LBs :)

[CunningLinguist]

banned again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again..............!!

I should have copyrighted that sentence :)

[CunningLinguist]

I reckon a LB only shop is the way to go!

[uglyphil]

If we didn't find the act repulsive and instead found it attractive, we would, ipso facto, be homosexuals.

Actually Sextus. That is not ipso facto, and is, in fact, bullshit.

I can watch two males kissing (have done so with several friends who are homosexual) and I do not feel repulsed, nor do I feel turned on. In fact the only feelings I have at the sight is happiness for my friends that they are in such a loving relationship (something that many of us would be jealous of - the relationship, not who it is with). I do not however, seek out homosexual porn, nor do I feel any desire at all to consort with other men. As I stated, just because you are not repulsed by something doesn't mean you would be turned on by it either. Ispo facto - your statement that that is the case is bullshit **shrugs**

And of course there is condemnation rather than distaste in this thread. Just look at some of the comments describing people who may use this service as "dirty old queers" or similar.

I think that many of you are forgetting that society (as a whole) would see us (users of R&T and FS shops) as deviants. That perception is not necessarily one that we are comfortable with, and it isn't necessarily correct either, and I, for one, do not believe we should condemning others who are doing something that they enjoy (that is legal). Treat others as you would be treated and all that... :)

[uglyphil]

We're all different. ("I'm not...")

Exactly :)

And some of us are very naughty little boys too ;)

[asiafever]

There used to be a shop in Melbourne that had 2 entrances, one for the girls and one for lb's. Seemed to do a good trade. I think you're probably right cl. Better be a stand alone shop, even if it's a branch of a famous shop.

[Cunt Destroyer]

what people do in the privacy of their own homes is their business, yeah yeah fair enough. havent heard anyone disagree with that

the current topic is not about that though. What we are discussing is our thoughts and feelings about introducing transexual sex workers into the shop that we visit.

the thing about these politically correct lefty elitists is that they deny the right of anyone to hold an opinion that happens to differ even slightly from their own.

so when someone admits to feeling 'disgusted' by transvestites. Apparently the act of 'feeling disgusted' is itself a hatecrime and deserving of condemnation.

when someone expresses the opinion that cross dressing and genital mutilation is a 'perversion'. This opinion is denounced as illegitimate, bigotted and narrow minded!

the only 'correct' feeling, values and beliefs are the ones these guys say you can have (ie. pro-gay, pro-left, pro-minority bleeding heart sentamentalism)

[uglyphil]

I think they should pay homage to the Red Dwarf character Arnold Judas Rimmer by displaying the letter LB somewhere on their person :)

Seriously I don't want to see the person if they are a LB, so better not to do the walk by.

How about we stick a gold star on them too?

I see no issues with this, as long as the shop is up front about providing this service. You have every right as a customer to state that you do not want see the LB and so skip any intro to one. I would feel entirely comfortable going to a shop with LBs as long as I can tell management that I am not interested.

[asiafever]

Glad my reference wasn't lost uglyphil...

[uglyphil]

Glad my reference wasn't lost uglyphil...

Oh af, I can quote the great Monty all day. Love their work :D

[Sextus]

I don't know what it feels like to have a neutral view when I contemplate the images homosexual sex calls up. Hence my leap from repulsive to attractive. Can a purely neutral view exist when our sexuality is innate? Is a neutral view therefore just a social construct?

Citing religious hypocrites and bringing up their notion of sin I think isn't relevant as we aren't born with a religion (thank God - ha ha) but we are born with a sexuality.

Gangbangs are uber hetero events as far as I have contemplated them and written about them. I think rather than repulsion it is therefore intrigue and curiosity that most would view them with, even in average suburbia - hell, particularly in average suburbia!

It is true however, that most of society isn't very keen towards our punting activities, but hypocrisy rules there for sure I think.

[uglyphil]

I don't know what it feels like to have a neutral view when I contemplate the images homosexual sex calls up. Hence my leap from repulsive to attractive. Can a purely neutral view exist when our sexuality is innate? Is a neutral view therefore just a social construct?

No



Gangbangs are uber hetero events as far as I have contemplated them and written about them. I think rather than repulsion it is therefore intrigue and curiosity that most would view them with, even in average suburbia - hell, particularly in average suburbia!

I most certainly do view GBs with revulsion, mostly because of the degradation that I believe they visit upon the ladies involved. However, they are legal and as long as the lady is a willing participant then anyone involved in one is doing nothing wrong so I have no issue with them. But I would never ever be involved with one.

A reverse GB on the other hand... I am quite happy for that kind of degradation to be visited on me ;)


It is true however, that most of society isn''t very keen towards our punting activities, but hypocrisy rules there for sure I think.

My point was that hypocrisy doesn't just rule "out there" ;)

[SirLaughsAlot]

At the end of the day, if the choice is between a great looking ladyboy and a very average female,
such as Sarah Hanson Young, Sarah Ferguson, Virginia Trioli, or Leigh Sales, then you can't blame some guys
for wanting to rumble with the cute ladyboys, irrespective of whether they are pre-op or post-op.
It's just a question of aesthetics, nothing to do with sexuality or gender stereotyping, or philosophy or anything else.
It's about which option straightens out your rod.

Yeah baby......shagadellic says the poet.

[CunningLinguist]

At the end of the day, if the choice is between a great looking ladyboy and a very average female,
such as Sarah Hanson Young, Sarah Ferguson, Virginia Trioli, or Leigh Sales, then you can't blame some guys
for wanting to rumble with the cute ladyboys, irrespective of whether they are pre-op or post-op.
It's just a question of aesthetics, nothing to do with sexuality or gender stereotyping, or philosophy or anything else.
It's about which option straightens out your rod.

Yeah baby......shagadellic says the poet.

I thought you were just banned ?

[Cunt Destroyer]

I think this is by far the most honest and eloquent point of view we've heard so far...

some guys feel disgust some guys feel arousal - there is no objective truth to any of this, as the poet says, its all about the 'aesthetic'

we are entitled to own our own feelings - disgust, revulsion, whatever they may be. Whoever denounces the aesthetic preference of another as 'wrong' or 'immoral' is a fool and a petty tyrant


At the end of the day, if the choice is between a great looking ladyboy and a very average female,
such as Sarah Hanson Young, Sarah Ferguson, Virginia Trioli, or Leigh Sales, then you can't blame some guys
for wanting to rumble with the cute ladyboys, irrespective of whether they are pre-op or post-op.
It's just a question of aesthetics, nothing to do with sexuality or gender stereotyping, or philosophy or anything else.
It's about which option straightens out your rod.

Yeah baby......shagadellic says the poet.

[Sextus]

I think this is by far the most honest and eloquent point of view we've heard..

Maybe so, but "by far?" :cry: :smile:

[uglyphil]

It is certainly a revealing sentence Sextus ;)

[SirLaughsAlot]

"Cunt Destroyer" may have "some" good taste, but he or she is categorically not SirLaughsAlot. It's just a thought,
but I notice CL is currently not around when CD is online. Just an observation at this particular moment, probably
just a coincidence.

[CunningLinguist]

"Cunt Destroyer" may have "some" good taste, but he or she is categorically not SirLaughsAlot. It's just a thought,
but I notice CL is currently not around when CD is online. Just an observation at this particular moment, probably
just a coincidence.

Hmm are you protesting too loudly again :)
BTW CD and me are logged in at the same time right now you fool ...

[SirLaughsAlot]

Hmm are you protesting too loudly again :)
BTW CD and me are logged in at the same time right now you fool ...

I notice your psychological profile on my good self hasn't been getting much attention.
How does that make you feel, I wonder? Could it be that I'm not the fool around here.
I'm the chap that other folk seem to find interesting. Again, how does that make you feel, I wonder?

[CunningLinguist]

I notice your psychological profile (http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?42455-Psychological-profile-of-the-quot-poet-quot-troll) on my good self hasn't been getting much attention.
How does that make you feel, I wonder? Could it be that I'm not the fool around here.
I'm the chap that other folk seem to find interesting. Again, how does that make you feel, I wonder?

I will be making updates when I get around to it, it will get more juicy as time goes by, you may even wish you hadn't made this post by the time I have finished with you troll ...

You probably didn't realise it at the time so I will point it out for you that your post confirms one of the things that thread will discuss, that you seek attention. I don't care if people don't make comments on that thread, that is not why I created, unlike you. You crave attention from people on an anonymous sex forum, what does that say about your real life and how real life people value your poetry and you ....

[SirLaughsAlot]

I will be making updates when I get around to it, it will get more juicy as time goes by, you may even wish you hadn't made this post by the time I have finished with you troll ...

You probably didn't realise it at the time so I will point it out for you that your post confirms one of the things that thread will discuss, that you seek attention. I don't care if people don't make comments on that thread, that is not why I created, unlike you. You crave attention from people on an anonymous sex forum, what does that say about your real life and how real life people value your poetry and you ....

Sounds like you have some Basque blood in you CL. Are you a member or a descendent of the Basque people living in the western Pyrenees in
France and Spain. They live by the vendetta, with their jealous hearts. This fits with your profile.

I have enhanced the forum by increasing it's breadth and depth of discussion, whilst maintaining a healthy interest in matters sexual/sensual.
The poems I have posted to the forum have been written specifically for the forum, and they are very good. However, my extended poetic catalogue and
other published literary material not limited to poetry, won't ever make it to the forum for obvious reasons.

I look forward to your considered review of my new forum poem tomorrow. Life's beautiful, all's well with the world.

[Sextus]

I don't want to annoy anyone by this, I'm just trying to learn more and hopefully understand alternative points of view thereby.

If the mental imagery of male homosexual sex only provokes a completely neutral response amongst self-identifying heteros, ie, not repulsion or attraction, at what point does disgust and revulsion for the acts actually kick in? If those acts are attempted to be visited upon you? Does that indicate an underlying disgust and revulsion for the acts, no matter the social construct of claimed neutrality?

[uglyphil]

I don't want to annoy anyone by this, I'm just trying to learn more and hopefully understand alternative points of view thereby.

If the mental imagery of male homosexual sex only provokes a completely neutral response amongst self-identifying heteros, ie, not repulsion or attraction, at what point does disgust and revulsion for the acts actually kick in? If those acts are attempted to be visited upon you? Does that indicate an underlying disgust and revulsion for the acts, no matter the social construct of claimed neutrality?

I can only speak for myself Sextus, but from experience of being hit on by homosexuals in my younger days (hey, Uni is the place right?) I wasn't disgusted by this, but I was annoyed. Had they persisted then yes, revulsion may have come into play but thankfully on the few times it happened the person involved took the hint. If someone forces themselves upon you, by force, misrepresentation or just persistence, be they heterosexual or homosexual, then that is, of course, disgusting.

[SirLaughsAlot]

I don't want to annoy anyone by this, I'm just trying to learn more and hopefully understand alternative points of view thereby.

If the mental imagery of male homosexual sex only provokes a completely neutral response amongst self-identifying heteros, ie, not repulsion or attraction, at what point does disgust and revulsion for the acts actually kick in? If those acts are attempted to be visited upon you? Does that indicate an underlying disgust and revulsion for the acts, no matter the social construct of claimed neutrality?

Sounds like you've swallowed the "lefty twat social psychology policy dictionary," are you feeling ok Sextus? What gives?
But you are entirely right that "neutrality" is a social construct.

[Anh.phu91]

Yuck!!!!!!!!!

[Sextus]

Sounds like you've swallowed the "lefty twat social psychology policy dictionary," are you feeling ok Sextus? What gives?

Actually I think I've borrowed more from the syntax of the great Hermanrommelgoring! :shout: Sometimes words have to be exactly placed, and not so much for fun (as in my Kylie dream.)

[CunningLinguist]

my extended poetic catalogue and
other published literary material not limited to poetry, won't ever make it to the forum for obvious reasons.

It must be pretty bad then.
You sound like a failed poet and academic who is craving recognition for his work and has now resorted to trying to get acceptance for your work on an anonymous sex forum because no one else takes any notice of it. Your constant bumping of your own threads and self-aggrandising, and PMing members to comment on your poems, and making up new accounts to comment on your poems is really pathetic. You are such a loser, if you were not such a low life shit stirring troll I would feel sorry for you.

You try to sound like your have a volume of published works, I bet the only place they are published is on some blog you have somewhere, that is way down off the scale in search hits....

You are nearing the end of your life and you are now trying to leave some legacy, on an anonymus sex forum ...

[Cunt Destroyer]

jesus christ give it a rest with the constant bitching you sound like an old woman

it seems everytime you open your trap its to have a whinge about the poet. I read through you last 10 posts and sure enough 9 of them are attacks on him.

its getting real boring. move on. get a life. youre obsessed. build a bridge and get over it.


It must be pretty bad then.
You sound like a failed poet and academic who is craving recognition for his work and has now resorted to trying to get acceptance for your work on an anonymous sex forum because no one else takes any notice of it. Your constant bumping of your own threads and self-aggrandising, and PMing members to comment on your poems, and making up new accounts to comment on your poems is really pathetic. You are such a loser, if you were not such a low life shit stirring troll I would feel sorry for you.

You try to sound like your have a volume of published works, I bet the only place they are published is on some blog you have somewhere, that is way down off the scale in search hits....

You are nearing the end of your life and you are now trying to leave some legacy, on an anonymus sex forum ...

[wilisno]

I notice your psychological profile on my good self hasn't been getting much attention.
How does that make you feel, I wonder? Could it be that I'm not the fool around here.
I'm the chap that other folk seem to find interesting. Again, how does that make you feel, I wonder?
What a contradictory post !

First you said your profile didn't get much attention, nobody's interested, then you said you're the chap that other folk find interesting ! ;) ;) ;)

[SirLaughsAlot]

It must be pretty bad then.
You sound like a failed poet and academic who is craving recognition for his work and has now resorted to trying to get acceptance for your work on an anonymous sex forum because no one else takes any notice of it. Your constant bumping of your own threads and self-aggrandising, and PMing members to comment on your poems, and making up new accounts to comment on your poems is really pathetic. You are such a loser, if you were not such a low life shit stirring troll I would feel sorry for you.

You try to sound like your have a volume of published works, I bet the only place they are published is on some blog you have somewhere, that is way down off the scale in search hits....

You are nearing the end of your life and you are now trying to leave some legacy, on an anonymus sex forum ...

I'm having fun CL, that's something you gave up on a long time ago, for all kinds of reasons. Sadly, Your words reek of misery and jealousy.
You've been fishing to get my age for a while now, with your very silly "profile" thread. Your preoccupation with me has now become a fixation.
Well, I'm probably younger than you are. If not, then at least I'm entirely sure I act younger, and probably look younger than you.

More importantly, I'm much brighter than you, and much happier than you. And I also probably get a lot more action than you.
I'm afraid every word you utter betrays your jealousy, that's why you're the only member who continuously attacks me.
It's as if you have no other reason to exist. Sadly, I think that may well be the case.

Just like I said before CL, "smile and the world smiles with you, cry and you cry alone." William Shakespeare. Think about it sugarplum.

[AHLUNGOR]

If you guys have nothing to say about lady boys working in RnT shops! Care to take this arguments back to your poetry thread instead ??

[SirLaughsAlot]

If you guys have nothing to say about lady boys working in RnT shops! Care to take this arguments back to your poetry thread instead ??

Hey Ahlungor, there is definitely a market for beautiful ladyboys. There's a market for beauty everywhere.
I had one in Brisbane a few years back and she was more feminine than most women - skin smooth and warm, great tits and arse.
She was relatively expensive, but I treated myself at the time, I felt I got good value for money.
Like I said, we poets are renowned for our sexual prowess and "spirit of adventure." But only with the beautiful.

[Licker]

If you guys have nothing to say about lady boys working in RnT shops! Care to take this arguments back to your poetry thread instead ??

I agree.

I'd just like to post this for Sextus, if you don't mind my friend. You might like it too.

Youtube: Kylie Minogue and Men Behaving Badly (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZtkzeNb5H0)

[Licker]

On the subject of LB's in R&T's.

I won't be choosing one, but I don't mind if they are there for those who want.

I hate Vegemite!
Do I stop getting my bacon and egg sandwich from the coffee shop that also serves Vegemite on toast?
No, as I don't have to buy it.


To all the GBHFCF's, get a life. :cool2:

[wilisno]

On the subject of LB's in R&T's.

I won't be choosing one, but I don't mind if they are there for those who want.

I hate Vegemite!
Do I stop getting my bacon and egg sandwich from the coffee shop that also serves Vegemite on toast?
No, as I don't have to buy it.


To all the GBHFCF's, get a life. :cool2:
Well said brother !

[uglyphil]

On the subject of LB's in R&T's.

I won't be choosing one, but I don't mind if they are there for those who want.

I hate Vegemite!
Do I stop getting my bacon and egg sandwich from the coffee shop that also serves Vegemite on toast?
No, as I don't have to buy it.


To all the GBHFCF's, get a life. :cool2:

Agreed. Well said.

And thanks for the Kylie link too. Longtime fan of MBB, but I have managed to miss that.

[TMC (free cage girl)]

i think, LB must has big foot and finger .

but if the LB is looks sexy & attractive for you, just try and AR on forum. :cool2:


I dont want to cross the line my self.

[CunningLinguist]

I read through you last 10 posts and sure enough 9 of them are attacks on him.
.

How ironic you fool, why don't you read through your own posts you hate filled troll. You have been banned many times on this forum as well, possibly more times than the poet troll. Are you sticking up for your troll mate, are you two in cahoots ...

[CunningLinguist]

trollspeak ...
I Your words reek of misery.
more trollspeak ...


Yes your poems make me miserable :)
Apart from that everything else you said was a lie and you know it!
That's the thing about trolls they know they can lie on forums and get away with it, most of the time anyway ...
If you stopped bumping your own threads and saying how great you were and generally acted less like a troll (http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?39297-Banned-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again) (banned 23 times now) you would find that you wouldn't get picked on so much ...

[EatmyhairyassholeBitch]

I watched that doco on Ladyboys of Thailand. Just normal people getting on with life and there seems to be a high demand from westerners.

I think any shop should be honest and inform customers beforehand.

Personally seeing some of those photos before I tell myself 'shit that girl has a dick! That's so wrong, she is really cute. I'm so confused now!':confused2:

[Sextus]

I'd just like to post this for Sextus, if you don't mind my friend. You might like it too.

Youtube: Kylie Minogue and Men Behaving Badly (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZtkzeNb5H0)

Thanks for that link Licker. There were some chuckles to be had from it - especially the final scene after they realised it was Kylie. That was a laugh. My favourite part however, was the end where Kylie danced around crazily, flashing a beautifully shaped leg and waggiling her great arse.

A disappointment however, was their reference to her pubes. As you'll recall from my dream - I kept repeating it - her pussy was absolutely bare (albeit splashed with the come of two men) and that is the only image worthy of her I'm afraid.

[CunningLinguist]

I notice your psychological profile on my good self hasn't been getting much attention.


Not that I care, but I know you do:
I noticed the thread about you being banned (http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?39297-Banned-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again) so many times has more replies and views than all your poetry threads combined, a bit of poetic justice there foolish troll :)

Just to labour the point cos I know you are slow: A thread about you being a prick is more popular than all your poetry threads combined!

[The Fonz]

I'm totally against this idea. The next thing there will be a "Crying Game" reveal on unsuspecting customers or heshe has a permanent "period"

[SirLaughsAlot]

Not that I care, but I know you do:
I noticed the thread about you being banned (http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?39297-Banned-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again) so many times has more replies and views than all your poetry threads combined, a bit of poetic justice there foolish troll :)

Just to labour the point cos I know you are slow: A thread about you being a prick is more popular than all your poetry threads combined!

One could say, with some foundation, this clearly demonstrates that my readership is interested in all manner of information about me. It's most gratifying I must say.

[SirLaughsAlot]

As as courtesy to Ahlungor, I wish to bring the thread back to topic (and a most interesting topic too). As I said above:


Hey Ahlungor, there is definitely a market for beautiful ladyboys. There's a market for beauty everywhere.
I had one in Brisbane a few years back and she was more feminine than most women - skin smooth and warm, great tits and arse.
She was relatively expensive, but I treated myself at the time, I felt I got good value for money.
Like I said, we poets are renowned for our sexual prowess and "spirit of adventure." But only with the beautiful.

[brucele3187]

I will only go for women. I've tried one of the thai girl in a place at Granville she has a great figure and a beautiful face. Thinking back I was a bit shock that "she" maybe is a "he" and I really don't want to know the truth, and move on:surprise::surprise::surprise:

[SirLaughsAlot]

I will only go for women. I've tried one of the thai girl in a place at Granville she has a great figure and a beautiful face. Thinking back I was a bit shock that "she" maybe is a "he" and I really don't want to know the truth, and move on:surprise::surprise::surprise:

A beautiful shemale is much more a "she" than a "male" and most importantly, she wants to be feminine and attentive.
There's so much more to being an attractive woman than simply having breasts and a vagina. This is a major problem with many females
these days; they've been sold the awful message that they shouldn't want to be genuinely feminine, but that they should want power.
As a result, they are not happy because this conflicts with their genetic makeup that says they are the fairer sex. Similarly, men cannot ever
be satisfied with women who seek to exert obvious or overt control over them, and who are not happy in themselves whilst doing so.
This is a situatuion of conflict upon conflict and the implications for relationships, family, society are very significant. If things continue this way,
it is likely that relationships between genders will fracture widely.

[asiafever]

http://www.livescience.com/19563-homophobia-hidden-homosexuals.html

Interesting article..

[TMC (free cage girl)]

I will only go for women. I've tried one of the thai girl in a place at Granville she has a great figure and a beautiful face. Thinking back I was a bit shock that "she" maybe is a "he" and I really don't want to know the truth, and move on:surprise::surprise::surprise:

my russian friend likes thai girl. i pick up thai girl before in city, i suspect, she might be LB because when i touch her boobs, it was fake boobs and i check the size of finger and foots it was little bit bigger than normal girl.

I gave to my Russian friend. he fucked her and he was very very happy. it's sad:cool2:

he fucked with men, hahaha:cool2:

[SirLaughsAlot]

Renaldo played like an ugly ladyboy against Germany. He has a strong tendency to fail against top class opponents,
but he can turn it on against the inferior teams, but so what I guess. If you can't perform at the very highest level,
it shows you are merely a great pretender. He's a good player, but not a great one, and that's the truth of it.

[Schlogg]

http://www.livescience.com/19563-homophobia-hidden-homosexuals.html

Interesting article..

Not sure how this is relevant. If someone says they aren't interested in a ladyboy, that doesn't make them homophobic...

[asiafever]

Not suggesting just because someone said they aren't interested they are homophobic. Rather those who were over the top in their views might want to, as suggested in the article, take a little time to think why their views are so extreme. I have no interest whatsoever in touching another man's dick in any way shape or form, I don't see the point however in labelling those that do as disgusting, revolting etc. To me its the old "He doth protest too much", so i thought the fact this article appeared the same time was interesting. that's all.

[SirLaughsAlot]

Not suggesting just because someone said they aren't interested they are homophobic. Rather those who were over the top in their views might want to, as suggested in the article, take a little time to think why their views are so extreme. I have no interest whatsoever in touching another man's dick in any way shape or form, I don't see the point however in labelling those that do as disgusting, revolting etc. To me its the old "He doth protest too much", so i thought the fact this article appeared the same time was interesting. that's all.

Pre-op ladyboys are essentially women with dicks. Post-op ladyboys are women. Why do I say this?
Because breasts, vagina, and a womb don't make a woman. There are plenty of mungrels going around who definitely
have the female parts, but are totally unfeminine and not what we would generally call a woman.
The key thing about attractive ladyboys is that they want to be feminine, they aspire to femininity, and it is this
that makes them women. So if you happened to be with a gorgeous ladyboy, you would not be touching a man's dick,
you'd be touching a woman's dick. Attractive ladyboys are more feminine than many women these days, because
they want to be feminine, and they want to be women.

Regular women are confused about their womanhood, they've been sold the unsavoury message of entitlement, empowerment,
strength and control by feminism, and the traditional notions of womanhood have been devalued. All this is in direct conflict with
the female genetic makeup. It is not surprising that many so-called women are becoming very aggressive and hostile, with diminishing
femininity. Unfortunately, they generally direct their hostility at men, rather than those other women who espouse the worst aspects of feminism.

[SirLaughsAlot]

Pre-op ladyboys are essentially women with dicks. Post-op ladyboys are women. Why do I say this?
Because breasts, vagina, and a womb don't make a woman. There are plenty of mungrels going around who definitely
have the female parts, but are totally unfeminine and not what we would generally call a woman.
The key thing about attractive ladyboys is that they want to be feminine, they aspire to femininity, and it is this
that makes them women. So if you happened to be with a gorgeous ladyboy, you would not be touching a man's dick,
you'd be touching a woman's dick. Attractive ladyboys are more feminine than many women these days, because
they want to be feminine, and they want to be women.

Regular women are confused about their womanhood, they've been sold the unsavoury message of entitlement, empowerment,
strength and control by feminism, and the traditional notions of womanhood have been devalued. All this is in direct conflict with
the female genetic makeup. It is not surprising that many so-called women are becoming very aggressive and hostile, with diminishing
femininity. Unfortunately, they generally direct their hostility at men, rather than those other women who espouse the worst aspects of feminism.

So to answer the question posed by Ahlungor's thread - yes there is a market for topnotch ladyboys,
but not necessarily in RnT shops, they are probably more appropriate for FS shops.

[AHLUNGOR]

http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii511/neneng276/Bikini%20Open/DSC_0769_zpsf786eb2e.jpg

[Sextus]

I don't see the point however in labelling those that do like ladyboys as disgusting, revolting etc. To me its the old "He doth protest too much",

Shakespeare has a lot to answer for for coining that phrase.

It reminds me of this exchange from the Life of Brian:

Brian: "I'm not the Messiah!"

pause

Judith: "Only the true Messiah denies his divinity."

Brian: "What?! Well what chance does that give me?

Alright then, I am the Messiah.
All: "HE IS! HE IS THE MESSIAH!!" :shout:

[SirLaughsAlot]

http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii511/neneng276/Bikini%20Open/DSC_0769_zpsf786eb2e.jpg

They are all nice, especially the one on the far right - that's my particular taste, she's absolutely lovely.

yeah baby....

[AHLUNGOR]

http://37.media.tumblr.com/d89e86e671eb73c215d5a3b888a425f1/tumblr_n6p35mIaFZ1sd5rw4o1_500.jpg

[Sextus]

I don't see the point however in labelling those that do like ladyboys as disgusting, revolting etc.

I don't think anyone said that. I think all that was said was that they were personal feelings that prevented those personally feeling them from doing such practices. They were born with those feelings of aversion and so are not responsible for them, the same way as those with no aversion were born that way too. :D

[SirLaughsAlot]

http://37.media.tumblr.com/d89e86e671eb73c215d5a3b888a425f1/tumblr_n6p35mIaFZ1sd5rw4o1_500.jpg

You are such a teaser Ahlungor. She is lovely, so feminine, and a lot better than those fugly ABC presenters, aye.

Yeah baby.....shagadellic.

[Violent Martin]

Is 'lady boy' a new politcally correct term? Does it apply just to the Thai ones?

I have always refered to them as 'drag queens'. This is how they also referred to themselves. But that terminology is probably now outdated.

Its funny the power a label can have isn't it? I wonder if people in this thread would be confortable talking about the feminine allure of 'drag queens' (sir laughalot) or posting photos of 'male tranvestites' erect cocks (ahlungor). probably not

Anyway, I don't feel anything one way or the other about homosexuals / drag queens etc. Neither lust nor disgust.

However, I do find the self mutilation thing (cutting off of penis) and disfigurement (breast implants and hormone therapy) abhorent and disgusting. Its perverse and self destructive behaviour

[Sextus]

It is just observed psychological science that some men feel trapped in their body. They feel they should have been born women, and so they do something about it.

You do make a point about the soothing effect of lables and names though.

[Violent Martin]

there are physcholgical explanations for all forms of human behaviour.

A man, for whatever psychological reason, feels the need to slice off his penis, insert bags of silicon into his chest and take medication to raise his estrogen levels.

could a good psychoanalyst identify the mental health issues that lead to this guy doing these things to himself? probably. Is the behaviour self destructive and perverse regardless of such an explanation? yes

[SirLaughsAlot]

Is 'lady boy' a new politcally correct term? Does it apply just to the Thai ones?

I have always refered to them as 'drag queens'. This is how they also referred to themselves. But that terminology is probably now outdated.

Its funny the power a label can have isn't it? I wonder if people in this thread would be confortable talking about the feminine allure of 'drag queens' (sir laughalot) or posting photos of 'male tranvestites' erect cocks (ahlungor). probably not

Anyway, I don't feel anything one way or the other about homosexuals / drag queens etc. Neither lust nor disgust.

However, I do find the self mutilation thing (cutting off of penis) and disfigurement (breast implants and hormone therapy) abhorent and disgusting. Its perverse and self destructive behaviour

Attractive shemales/ladyboys are more feminine than many women.
They aspire to femininity, they want femininity. Breasts, vagina and womb do not make a woman.
Otherwise, we'd consider the ugliest mongrel a real woman. Being a woman is as much psychological as
physiological. You can't possibly think Sarah Hanson Young, Judith Lucy and Hannah Gadsby are women
and the beautiful ladyboys shown above are men who have simply destroyed their bodies on a whim.
The fact you still refer to them as men suggests you have very antiquated and inaccurate views.
If someone held a gun to your head and said you have to rumble with either a beautiful Ladyboy, Sarah Hanson Young or
Judith Lucy, who would you pick? I give you the Victoria Cross for bravery if you pick Sarah Hanson Young or Judith Lucy.

[Violent Martin]

You would rather fuck a feminine man than a masculine woman. Ok I accept that and honestly dont judge you for it

But I don't agree gender is just a state of mind or an aesthetic. Some women are butch / ugly / unladylike - some men are sissy / submissive - deal with it

Anyway, at least Ahlungor has deleted all those drag queen dick pics he was posting all over the thread before. wtf lol. we were just talking about drag queens, why did you have to get excited and start posting that shit everywhere?


Attractive shemales/ladyboys are more feminine than many women.
They aspire to femininity, they want femininity. Breasts, vagina and womb do not make a woman.
Otherwise, we'd consider the ugliest mongrel a real woman. Being a woman is as much psychological as
physiological. You can't possibly think Sarah Hanson Young, Judith Lucy and Hannah Gadsby are women
and the beautiful ladyboys shown above are men who have simply destroyed their bodies on a whim.
The fact you still refer to them as men suggests you have very antiquated and inaccurate views.
If someone held a gun to your head and said you have to rumble with either a beautiful Ladyboy, Sarah Hanson Young or
Judith Lucy, who would you pick? I give you the Victoria Cross for bravery if you pick Sarah Hanson Young or Judith Lucy.

[random_p]

I think there is a lot of unnecessary machismo nonsense about this. If it's not for you, say so, and that's fine, but all this talk of "disgusting, perverted, fucked up" etc etc is judgemental bullshit frankly. If it's not your cup of tea, all good, but for some people (I'm not one, never tried, but seeing as we only live once I may be coerced to try a rnt from a pre op or post op, depending on how hot she was, but at the same time when faced with it I may decide it's not for me also) it is, and it seems like quite a few judging by those who ahlungor said pm'd him and what Isis said, as well as just how many there are in places like Singapore, Bangkok etc.

....


Very well written asiafever! Saved me from writing my own, less eloquent, rant :)

Having one's own preferences and aversions is completely valid, but to resort to name-calling others who don't share the same tastes as you is rather childish.

[random_p]

and to be fair, none of us will ever know if all the MLs that we have seen were all born female..

some of you might be starting to recall the times when you had doubts...

maybe some of those times were the best times you've ever had...

just putting it out there :smile:

[AHLUNGOR]

and to be fair, none of us will ever know if all the MLs that we have seen were all born female..

some of you might be starting to recall the times when you had doubts...

maybe some of those times were the best times you've ever had...

just putting it out there :smile:



Very true,

If you go to a Thai shop, not the body to body type but the more legit looking one and you see this ML a few times and finally "she" agrees to give you a HJ, may be the next time top off but no touching below !! Then you would think you are in heaven when a BJ is offered............


http://www.shemaletubevideos.com/images/galleries/0771/11007/0057a90ab7a54f19a3bf126ac31aa10b.jpg


http://www.shemaletubevideos.com/images/galleries/0771/11007/d6585a94a06f213777461943134028ee.jpg

[Violent Martin]

ffs enough with the shemale erotica and dick pics, ok?

[SirLaughsAlot]

[QUOTE=AHLUNGOR;513562]http://www.shemaletubevideos.com/images/galleries/0771/11007/0057a90ab7a54f19a3bf126ac31aa10b.jpg[QUOTE]


Quite nice, but I still prefer the lady (ladyboy) from the other picture (far right), which doesn't seem to be visible now.
Or the cute one with spectacles, which is still visible I'm happy to say. Can you get the first picture with the ladyboy group visible?
The one on the far right of the group was just lovely.

[IExperiment]

Very true,

If you go to a Thai shop, not the body to body type but the more legit looking one and you see this ML a few times and finally "she" agrees to give you a HJ, may be the next time top off but no touching below !! Then you would think you are in heaven when a BJ is offered............


http://www.shemaletubevideos.com/images/galleries/0771/11007/0057a90ab7a54f19a3bf126ac31aa10b.jpg


http://www.shemaletubevideos.com/images/galleries/0771/11007/d6585a94a06f213777461943134028ee.jpg


Sorry this does not turn me on Lungor please find better one, but there is so many that actually turn me on in Thailand as they are so damn good looking and small body Post Op too around the 160cm mark.

They loook so real make me wonder how it feel like.

Some give Yoon a run for her money and she is real cause she has her Period.

[AHLUNGOR]

How many of these are lady boys ??


http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8rb1m28Ux1qf84qso1_500.jpg

[uglyphil]

AH, while this might be a little OT, at dinner tonight in a great Thai place in Concord we were served by a ladyboy. While I wouldn't call her attractive, I certainly wouldn't call her ugly either. Most importantly, her service was quick, friendly and efficient.

I reckon it is good to see these ladies in everyday jobs, so why not RnT?

[Quickdraw]

So "your friend" raised the idea of hiring a transvestite to work in their rub + tug joint way back in May! Have they made a decision about that yet?

Or is this thread now just a place for old geezers like wayne and ugly phil to share stories about ladyboy encounters and swap ladyboy nudes?

[AHLUNGOR]

So "your friend" raised the idea of hiring a transvestite to work in their rub + tug joint way back in May! Have they made a decision about that yet?

Or is this thread now just a place for old geezers like wayne and ugly phil to share stories about ladyboy encounters and swap ladyboy nudes?


Well, the LB who contacted my friend back in May has already got a job in some shop apparently so "she" is no long available.

But I have already passed on the results of the research to my friends that 47% Yes, 35% No and 18% may be. So if she gets another LB coming through, she will give her a try and I will let you guys know accordingly.

Cheers

:cool2:

[The Fonz]

It's not hard to detect a ladyboy when you are sober.
1. They seem to always be over acting in pretending to be a woman.
2. Big hands
3. Adams apple

There is no commercial demand LB's in straight establishments, the owner who chooses to employ one will make the clientele angry and drive them away.

[CunningLinguist]

It's not hard to detect a ladyboy when you are sober.
1. They seem to always be over acting in pretending to be a woman.
2. Big hands
3. Adams apple

There is no commercial demand LB's in straight establishments, the owner who chooses to employ one will make the clientele angry and drive them away.

4. Big feet
5. Little dick
6. Broad shoulders
7. Bad skin

[Quickdraw]

Good work Einstein, but I reckon ANY dick (whether its 'little' or not) is a good indicator that your ML is in fact not a lady...


4. Big feet
5. Little dick
6. Broad shoulders
7. Bad skin

[CunningLinguist]

Good work Einstein, but I reckon ANY dick (whether its 'little' or not) is a good indicator that your ML is in fact not a lady...

I thought most people would get the joke so I left off the :)

[slangman69]

I would love it if I could get service from ladyboys in Sydney. I have been massaged by ladyboys on trips to Thailand and it is fantastic. They know exactly what they are doing, they know what you want and the service they provide is unlike anything else and cannot be matched by that of a "real girl"!

Playing with their tiny balls and adorable little pecker until they get hard makes your heart race... and the feeling you get from their breasts rubbing against your back and their sweet lil cock rubbing against your butt is simply brilliant!

But nothing gay, please.

[wilisno]

I would love it if I could get service from ladyboys in Sydney. I have been massaged by ladyboys on trips to Thailand and it is fantastic. They know exactly what they are doing, they know what you want and the service they provide is unlike anything else and cannot be matched by that of a "real girl"!

Playing with their tiny balls and adorable little pecker until they get hard makes your heart race... and the feeling you get from their breasts rubbing against your back and their sweet lil cock rubbing against your butt is simply brilliant!

But nothing gay, please.

Noted, Clive !

[slangman69]

...hold your breath...make a wish...count to three...

[Oneonone]

I am not into lady boys and so I think this thread should now be closed.

[slangman69]

Brother, you need to open your mind and your heart...

[AHLUNGOR]

I would love it if I could get service from ladyboys in Sydney. I have been massaged by ladyboys on trips to Thailand and it is fantastic. They know exactly what they are doing, they know what you want and the service they provide is unlike anything else and cannot be matched by that of a "real girl"!

Playing with their tiny balls and adorable little pecker until they get hard makes your heart race... and the feeling you get from their breasts rubbing against your back and their sweet lil cock rubbing against your butt is simply brilliant!

But nothing gay, please.


Haha, I think the nothing gay was a given !

Funny how I actually quoted that in the other thread before I read this !

So, welcome back brother CliveCliveClive !!!

Long time no see mate !

[AHLUNGOR]

...hol d your breath...make a wish...count to three...


So, who have you been forming the circle with these days in your jerking off play ??

[mabo_dick]

What news from the industry?