Only After Reports for advertisers shops are allowed to be posted in this forum ??

[AHLUNGOR]

Hi Admin Brothers,


As per title !

Just like to know if the rules have been changed:


Forum Rules and Regulations :

1. No malicious attacks on advertisers and workers. While positive and negative reports are welcome, but comments must be to the point and without the intention to damage the reputation of the shop or the workers.

2. No obscene and offensive language used against workers, shops or other members.

3. No altercation on the forum. While friendly discussions or debates are welcome, but personal attacks that lead to hot arguments are not encouraged.

4. No advertising without permission from administrators.

5. No postings of articles or photos of child porn and underaged prostitution.

6. No postings of articles or photos of violent sex practices, animal sex, and rapes.

7. Respect the privacy of others, no postings of personal details and/or photos of workers and other members.

8. Refrain from criticizing the author of an After Report, write your own if you find your experience is different without attacking the individuals.

The above rules and regulations are subject to constant reviews and modifications when necessity arises. Offending posts will be deleted without notice and member warned. Repeat offender will be banned from visiting our site.

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I understand 4. No advertising without permission from administrators.

So posting of roster is Not allowed for non advertiser, I have got that!

But what about genuine After Reports and Reviews and answering specific questions posted by other members. And is the same rule apply to ALL shops who are Not an advertiser in this forum ??

So if I post a review for 501 Newtown, will it be deleted, what about At Michelles, Chequers and Babylon ??

Is the After Report section now strictly reserved for advertisers shops only.

Admin please kindly clarify this situation, as a senior member of this forum, I always want to follow the rules but certainly don't want to waste time writing reviews and then got deleted.

Thank you for your kind attention in this query.

Please advise.

Cheers

:question::question::question:

[Aus99 Moderator]

No rules have been changed. Only illegal advertising will be prohibited, there are plenty of genuine reports for non-advertisers, but not for illegal advertisers.

[AHLUNGOR]

No rules have been changed. Only illegal advertising will be prohibited, there are plenty of genuine reports for non-advertisers, but not for illegal advertisers.


Hi Brother,


Thanks for the reply, but it is still not totally cleared.

So if I post a genuine report for non-advertisers which is OK right !

But then how do a non-advertiser become an illegal advertiser ??

Say if I went to Chequers and had a great session, I post a review, and recommended the shop or the girl, will that make them an illegal advertiser ??

How about smaller shops like 288 Wattle Street, 447 King Street, 28 Hope St Sevenhills and all that ??

Or you are only just targeting one particular shop and prohibit any mentioning of this place ?? If so, That's ok too, I just need to know so that I don't get banned !!

It took a very loooooooong time and lots of efforts to reach 17,000 posts, I certainly don't like to be a Baby Member again.

All you have to do is lay down the rules and I am sure everyone will follow. You're the boss mate.

Cheers


:smile:

[wilisno]

Hi Brother,


Thanks for the reply, but it is still not totally cleared.

So if I post a genuine report for non-advertisers which is OK right !

But then how do a non-advertiser become an illegal advertiser ??

Say if I went to Chequers and had a great session, I post a review, and recommended the shop or the girl, will that make them an illegal advertiser ??

How about smaller shops like 288 Wattle Street, 447 King Street, 28 Hope St Sevenhills and all that ??

Or you are only just targeting one particular shop and prohibit any mentioning of this place ?? If so, That's ok too, I just need to know so that I don't get banned !!

It took a very loooooooong time and lots of efforts to reach 17,000 posts, I certainly don't like to be a Baby Member again.

All you have to do is lay down the rules and I am sure everyone will follow. You're the boss mate.

Cheers


:smile:
There are a few possibilities that a non-advertiser would become an illegal advertiser !

If someone posts what seems to be a genuine report for a shop, it's ok, but if he posts a report every second day or so for the same shop, it's obvious that it's illegal advertising.

If an advertiser became non-advertiser because he cheats, then everything about that shop will be considered illegal !

You've been very outspoken about tax cheats in the past, bro Ahlungor, honest tax payers like yourself are paying your fair share of tax, while the tax cheats are saving heaps !

Keep up that righteous attitude of yours, the same thing applies here. While the honest advertisers are paying their fair share of fees, some even pay for 2 accounts, then this one tries to cheat with your help !

Enough said !

[Max Impact]

I had a report for a TMC girl deleted before Yamada decided to advertise....

[wachumba]

I hope this means no more of your so called recommendations to your friends shops and also mentioning your friends massage shops in threads which have nothing to do with them just to get some advertising in.

[Eureka]

There is the obvious isn't it ...

As "independent punters" we all get to participate in the forum.
Yes some guys have there favorite shops ie Rooter, Oneonone etc ....
But ..... if the punters bias .. and frequency of expressing it becomes excessive .. then I would say they have ceased to become "independent" and have become a pseudo advertiser !!!

What is excessive can be debated .. But what can't is that it is the Admins Forum .. They put up the $ for it to exist and continue to do so ...
Admin have a right to profits and revenue in reward for their innovation, costs and risks - don't see how anyone could have issue with that...

And like any business they have to be careful of the "thin edge of the wedge" that threatens to undermine that right ...
And a shop benefitting from the Forums existence simply out of random comments from members is one thing ...

But for my tuppence (and full of respect bro) a member that is ceasing to be truly independent and effectively advertising the shop through a members bias and frequency is taking advantage of the Forum owners goodwill ..
And a shop/ shop owner that benefits (like one I have great affection for) should as they say .. "Piss or get off the pot" ..
Be a business associate of the forum .. Or cease to be recognized by it !!

Then it removes it from us punter participants ... and becomes a simple business judgement between two operating entities seeking profit

[wilisno]

What is excessive can be debated ..

Excessive advertising is not even the issue here, that's not why the shop receives a blackout in exposure on the forum, you might not have read my post in reply to Ahlungor's query, here's the link, post no.6 :

http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?42421-Hot-Girl-Form-Malaysia-(Summer)&highlight=decided+break+advertising

[AHLUNGOR]

I hope this means no more of your so called recommendations to your friends shops and also mentioning your friends massage shops in threads which have nothing to do with them just to get some advertising in.


I would hate to disappoint you but most of my friends are advertisers in this forum so I will recommend as many mls from their shops as I think it's appropriate , you know who I am and you know which thread it is, and you don't have to read them!

[wachumba]

I would hate to disappoint you but most of my friends are advertisers in this forum so I will recommend as many mls from their shops as I think it's appropriate , you know who I am and you know which thread it is, and you don't have to read them!

4. No advertising without permission from administrators.

So your saying admin has approved you to advertise for your friends shops, even the ones that are paying advertisers?

And even if I don't read your recommendation posts, you still make reccomendations on other threads.
See this one with the guy asking for a place in bondi. http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?42743-Recommendations-for-Bondi-Junction&p=511602#post511602

You reccomended your friends places that aren't in Bondi.

[Mr Crash and Burn]

This is why advertisers should be banned from posting in the after reports or review section, because that is what it is titled "After Reports".

[cato]

4. No advertising without permission from administrators.

So your saying admin has approved you to advertise for your friends shops, even the ones that are paying advertisers?

And even if I don't read your recommendation posts, you still make reccomendations on other threads.
See this one with the guy asking for a place in bondi. http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?42743-Recommendations-for-Bondi-Junction&p=511602#post511602

You reccomended your friends places that aren't in Bondi.

I think you're missing the point on what constitutes "advertising". Simply submitting a review on a place which isn't an advertiser is not prohibited. If it was indeed prohibited that would in many ways limit the ability of the forum owners to grow their business.

For example, if a new shop opens and they get a few reviews here, the forum owners can promote their business to the shop owner and show them how many views their shop has had and the benefits of the added exposure if they become an advertiser.

I also have a suggestion for you: If unexpectedly stumbling on one of Ahlungor's posts in a thread causes you so much aggravation then perhaps you should block him altogether. That might make you happier and you won't have to post as often, seeing that a large chunk of your time on this forum is spent on little more than criticising Ahlungor.

[wilisno]

I think you're missing the point on what constitutes "advertising". Simply submitting a review on a place which isn't an advertiser is not prohibited. If it was indeed prohibited that would in many ways limit the ability of the forum owners to grow their business.

For example, if a new shop opens and they get a few reviews here, the forum owners can promote their business to the shop owner and show them how many views their shop has had and the benefits of the added exposure if they become an advertiser.

I also have a suggestion for you: If unexpectedly stumbling on one of Ahlungor's posts in a thread causes you so much aggravation then perhaps you should block him altogether. That might make you happier and you won't have to post as often, seeing that a large chunk of your time on this forum is spent on little more than criticising Ahlungor.

Spot on bro ! :miao:

[wilisno]

This is why advertisers should be banned from posting in the after reports or review section, because that is what it is titled "After Reports".
You still don't get it that's all !

[wachumba]

I think you're missing the point on what constitutes "advertising". Simply submitting a review on a place which isn't an advertiser is not prohibited. If it was indeed prohibited that would in many ways limit the ability of the forum owners to grow their business.

For example, if a new shop opens and they get a few reviews here, the forum owners can promote their business to the shop owner and show them how many views their shop has had and the benefits of the added exposure if they become an advertiser.


Never said anything about reviews being advertising bro. I'm all for reviews. The purpose of his reccomendations is to generate business for his friends.

[Max Impact]

I think you're missing the point on what constitutes "advertising". Simply submitting a review on a place which isn't an advertiser is not prohibited. If it was indeed prohibited that would in many ways limit the ability of the forum owners to grow their business.

For example, if a new shop opens and they get a few reviews here, the forum owners can promote their business to the shop owner and show them how many views their shop has had and the benefits of the added exposure if they become an advertiser.

I also have a suggestion for you: If unexpectedly stumbling on one of Ahlungor's posts in a thread causes you so much aggravation then perhaps you should block him altogether. That might make you happier and you won't have to post as often, seeing that a large chunk of your time on this forum is spent on little more than criticising Ahlungor.

Did you read post Number 5?

[wilisno]

Did you read post Number 5?
If you want to start this, I can tell you that Yamada was under the same category at that time, but he's a fair business man and understood the situation fairly quickly to turn it around !

[Max Impact]

Just stating a fact.

Five replies to Ahlungor's question thread from you, one from Admin. Do they really need so much support from you?

And I brokered the deal at the time.

[wilisno]

Just stating a fact.

Five replies to Ahlungor's question thread from you, one from Admin. Do they really need so much support from you?

And I brokered the deal at the time.

You brokered the deal at the time ? Then you should know better not to kick up the stink, it doesn't smell good for Yamada !

Admin doesn't need so much support from me, I speak with my own free will, and from what I know.

[Max Impact]

You are fun Wilisno. Don't be too serious! It's just a fucking forum here! kkkk

[wilisno]

You are fun Wilisno. Don't be too serious! It's just a fucking forum here! kkkk

I'm fun if you're not silly ! Hihijijiji

[cato]

Did you read post Number 5?

Hi Max Impact,

Yes I did read your post about your review being deleted. However in all fairness, the example I was giving could hardly apply to Yamada. Please correct me if I'm wrong - He has been a prolific advertiser on this forum in the past and I imagine that his business model very much relies on the exposure he gets on the forum. For this reason I think it's more than fair that the forum owners expect him to pay his share.

[CunningLinguist]

Just stating a fact.

Five replies to Ahlungor's question thread from you, one from Admin. Do they really need so much support from you?

And I brokered the deal at the time.

You brokered the deal between the forum and Yamada!
Interesting ...

[Max Impact]

Hi Max Impact,

Yes I did read your post about your review being deleted. However in all fairness, the example I was giving could hardly apply to Yamada. Please correct me if I'm wrong - He has been a prolific advertiser on this forum in the past and I imagine that his business model very much relies on the exposure he gets on the forum. For this reason I think it's more than fair that the forum owners expect him to pay his share.
I'm happy to correct you if you invite me! Thankyou.

Yamada was a startup company at that time. Then please read comment number five.

I'm simply stating the fact vs the theory given by others.

[Max Impact]

You brokered the deal between the forum and Yamada!
Interesting ...

What's so interesting?

I wasn't happy with my reviews (they take about an hour to write you know?) were being deleted and I was wanting young Japanese girls to keep coming to my door.

So I was like Henry Kissinger! (Wiki that!).

[wilisno]

I'm happy to correct you if you invite me! Thankyou.

Yamada was a startup company at that time. Then please read comment number five.

I'm simply stating the fact vs the theory given by others.

Yamada started up way back in the old forum !

[Max Impact]

I love the way your retorts are so irrelevant. What's your point dude?

[wilisno]

I love the way your retorts are so irrelevant. What's your point dude?
What's more irrelevant than you bringing Yamada in Ahlungor's thread ?

My point is, Yamada started operating long before you " brokered " him to become an advertiser ! You might have done so this time !

[Max Impact]

Facts are never relevant in your arguments are they? Just persistence.

I always picture a dog with a bone when I think of you.

[Max Impact]

Should we call it a night?

Oh and read post 5. A fact that shows that your theory is incorrect.

[cato]

Never said anything about reviews being advertising bro. I'm all for reviews. The purpose of his reccomendations is to generate business for his friends.

If you're all for reviews you might have noticed that he writes very comprehensive reviews and lots of them. Maybe you should try writing some proper reviews and not just three liners, but that takes a bit of effort and even a touch of courage - yes heaven forbid someone reads your review and doesn't agree with it. Then you might even get accused of overhyping?

[Max Impact]

If you're all for reviews you might have noticed that he writes very comprehensive reviews and lots of them. Maybe you should try writing some proper reviews and not just three liners, but that takes a bit of effort and even a touch of courage - yes heaven forbid someone reads your review and doesn't agree with it. Then you might even get accused of overhyping?
Good call!

[wilisno]

Facts are never relevant in your arguments are they? Just persistence.

I always picture a dog with a bone when I think of you.
The only fact in your post is you've succeeded in bringing Yamada to shame again.

Speaking of dog, that's what I think of you, always try to start a fight then run with your tail between your legs !

[wilisno]

Should we call it a night?

Oh and read post 5. A fact that shows that your theory is incorrect.
It's not a theory, I know exactly when it happened ! Whereas you didn't even know about Alexlelo, Whitewaves and so on !

[Max Impact]

I refuse to fight a battle of wits with an unarmed man such as you.

[wilisno]

I refuse to fight a battle of wits with an unarmed man such as you.
Wits is the last thing I believe you might possess dude !

[Max Impact]

It's not a theory, I know exactly when it happened ! Whereas you didn't even know about Alexlelo, Whitewaves and so on !

Could you tell us all exactly when it happened, oh soothsayer!

[wilisno]

Could you tell us all exactly when it happened, oh soothsayer!
Did you say you didn't know about Alexlelo ? That's before you saw the first of Yamada's girl !

[AHLUNGOR]

No rules have been changed. Only illegal advertising will be prohibited, there are plenty of genuine reports for non-advertisers, but not for illegal advertisers.


Dear AUS99 Moderator,


Please kindly advise if the following review qualifies to be a genuine review or will be treated as illegal advertising ??

[Max Impact]

You are quite entertaining in small doses.

[Max Impact]

Please tell all of is who the first girl was that I saw at TMC and also who the first one was that I reviewed. You are the keeper of all knowledge here?

[wilisno]

You are quite entertaining in small doses.
You are tremendously entertaining in all doses, it brings laughter to a lot of people.

[Max Impact]

You are tremendously entertaining in all doses, it brings laughter to a lot of people.

Finally we agree! It's all about After Reports bro!

Good night!

[wilisno]

Dear AUS99 Moderator,


Please kindly advise if the following review qualifies to be a genuine review or will be treated as illegal advertising ??
That's a question that doesn't need admin to clarify.

The answer is no, a genuine review doesn't need that much detail in address, phone number and pricing structure ! It's an ad !

Secondly, it makes no difference as the shop's got a blackout of exposure on the forum now !

[wilisno]

Please tell all of is who the first girl was that I saw at TMC and also who the first one was that I reviewed. You are the keeper of all knowledge here?
If you really have a bit of wits, you should be able to understand that's not a hard question to answer if you know there's a search function on the forum !

[RoyalFlush]

As per my understanding of the rules, Yamada had broken the rules when he advertised here by creating multiple accounts to review his own girls/bumping his own thread because he wasnt an approved and paid advertiser at the time.
But if Max Impact is an independent punter who wrote a review for Yamada, even if Yamada was still a non paying advertiser, that should still be allowed. Unless Max Impact is affiliated with Yamada. But I think suggesting Yamada to advertise here, hence brokering the deal, isnt considered proper brokerage unless Max Impact received some sort of remuneration from Yamada.

[Max Impact]

As per my understanding of the rules, Yamada had broken the rules when he advertised here by creating multiple accounts to review his own girls/bumping his own thread because he wasnt an approved and paid advertiser at the time.
But if Max Impact is an independent punter who wrote a review for Yamada, even if Yamada was still a non paying advertiser, that should still be allowed. Unless Max Impact is affiliated with Yamada. But I think suggesting Yamada to advertise here, hence brokering the deal, isnt considered proper brokerage unless Max Impact received some sort of remuneration from Yamada.
Good summation! I pay $350 each time a TMC girl graces my door!

[AHLUNGOR]

That's a question that doesn't need admin to clarify.

The answer is no, a genuine review doesn't need that much detail in address, phone number and pricing structure ! It's an ad !

Secondly, it makes no difference as the shop's got a blackout of exposure on the forum now !

I wasn't a fan of this format originally but as this was a standard template from the other forum I went along anyway, but after a while I quite get used to it !

I can show you many reviews posted in Aus99 all using this format and no one has ever got into any trouble or got deleted so therefore, this is a widely accepted format!!

However, your second point is very interesting, Admin has told me posting of Roster for Stanmore was prohibited after Coco was no longer an advertiser here which I fully respect and have not broken the rule.

But this is the first time I hear about "blackout of exposure in this forum"!

Which is fair enough too, it's their website and they have every right to do that, all they have to do is to advise everyone that the words Stanmore, Coco, etc will be blacked out and if the words are mentioned in any posts, the posts will be deleted so that we'll know what is allowed and what is Not!

So do I take your words that this is now official or should i wait for Admin to PM me or make some announcement here !!

駛唔駛行到呢步
要全面封殺？

[Max Impact]

So Therapist has cost me $1750 since she has been here.

[Max Impact]

If you really have a bit of wits, you should be able to understand that's not a hard question to answer if you know there's a search function on the forum !

We are all dumb here! Could you use the search function for us please Wilsno Sensai?

[AHLUNGOR]

OK, I went back to the earlier PM from Admin and read it again, in case I missed something .

There was actually this sentence there :

But please do not post anything regard to this shop anymore.


So I suppose anything about Stanmore is not allowed ! Now I read it again, you did tell me , so I won't do it again, I apologise .

But you have only told me right? So no restrictions on other members ??

Once again, I do apologise for posting Wendy's review as I only remember this other message from the Moderator which I did not break:

........any mention of 252 Stanmore by you on your Daily Recommendation thread will be treated as Illegal Advertising and will not be allowed.

It is really unfortunate as I put in a lot of times and efforts on my reviews . Now if members and guests want to read my reviews on the Stanmore Girls they have to go to the other forum.


Ok it is now all cleared. You can close this thread now before Brother Max and Bro Wil keep fighting and really hurt one another !

[wilisno]

OK, I went back to the earlier PM from Admin and read it again, in case I missed something .

There was actually this sentence there :

But please do not post anything regard to this shop anymore.


So I suppose anything about Stanmore is not allowed ! Now I read it again, you did tell me , so I won't do it again, I apologise .

But you have only told me right? So no restrictions on other members ??

Once again, I do apologise for posting Wendy's review as I only remember this other message from the Moderator which I did not break:

........any mention of 252 Stanmore by you on your Daily Recommendation thread will be treated as Illegal Advertising and will not be allowed.

It is really unfortunate as I put in a lot of times and efforts on my reviews . Now if members and guests want to read my reviews on the Stanmore Girls they have to go to the other forum.


Ok it is now all cleared. You can close this thread now before Brother Max and Bro Wil keep fighting and really hurt one another !
As I understand, the situation has gotten worsen now since you keep challenging it, it's a blackout !

[wilisno]

We are all dumb here! Could you use the search function for us please Wilsno Sensai?
Not everybody's dumb here, maybe just you. I have told you what to do, I can go through all your usernames such as HelpImSTucK, Butty, The Rocket Man etc etc, but I'm not as dumb as you to do what you want.