Smile for the cameras - or just say "cheese" - you are being watched 24/7 .....

[EyesSpyU2day]

Smile for the cameras - or just say "cheese" - you are being watched 24/7 .....

Have a nice day.

[Max Impact]

Thanks Einstein.

[cisco]

Smile for the cameras - or just say "cheese" - you are being watched 24/7 .....

Have a nice day.

Not only us , smile ;) you are being watched too , i can track you down where you are ;)

[khuntong]

Smile for the cameras - or just say "cheese" - you are being watched 24/7 .....

Have a nice day.

Ow, I'm sorry officer.. Is it against the law to browse adult forum?? I must be in the wrong country then.....




Wait a minute.....

[Max Impact]

So glad he joined the forum.

[WHITEDUDE]

not only does it capture your face, some CCTV systems log a register of all the car rego plates! lol

[AHLUNGOR]

Smile for the cameras - or just say "cheese" - you are being watched 24/7 .....

Have a nice day.


Is he the old troll ?

[aussiegaigin]

not only does it capture your face, some CCTV systems log a register of all the car rego plates! lol

My local shopping does, you can't get the free parking twice in one day.

[EyesSpyU2day]

Street cameras, cctv, mobile phones, labtops, PCs, Digital TV, Credit & Debit cards, even the new travel Opal Card (if you are silly enough to register).
If it’s digital it can be connected to every other digital device or resource.

They know where you are and what you’re doing 24/7.

Welcome to the “brave new world” Privacy has been destroyed because they fear us more than ever before.

They need to know everything we are doing in order to protect themselves, so they can continue to ravage the world of its resources,
and exploit the human population. Wars and rumours of wars are now provided as sick “entertainment” to distract the people from the
real injustice of global human oppression.

[wilisno]

They need to know everything we are doing in order to protect themselves, so they can continue to ravage the world of its resources,
and exploit the human population. Wars and rumours of wars are now provided as sick “entertainment” to distract the people from the
real injustice of global human oppression.
Whom are you referring to as " we " ? Your views are too extremist for me ! ;) ;) ;)

[Licker]

Dude, wrap some aluminium foil around your head!

[EyesSpyU2day]

Dude, wrap some aluminium foil around your head!

It sounds like you've already been micro-chipped.
They start with dogs, cats, then the "dry sponge brigade" (that's you).
Then, over time but systematically, everyone else.

The technology has been around for several years already, they're waiting until the
environmental conditions are at their appropriate best. Society is structured to distract,
divert, misinform, and dope up the population (via drugs, alcohol, porn, over prescribed medicines, media).

When the population is sufficiently intoxicated, the real "fun" begins.

[cisco]

It sounds like you've already been micro-chipped.
They start with dogs, cats, then the "dry sponge brigade" (that's you).
Then, over time but systematically, everyone else.

The technology has been around for several years already, they're waiting until the
environmental conditions are at their appropriate best. Society is structured to distract,
divert, misinform, and dope up the population (via drugs, alcohol, porn, over prescribed medicines, media).

When the population is sufficiently intoxicated, the real "fun" begins.
.......? R u ok ?

[yuna]

sounds like he needs a massage:cool2:

[gggb]

sounds like he needs a massage:cool2:

I think he needs more than just 1.... probably a few FS sessions too...

[EyesSpyU2day]

For those of you with an open and curious mind.

Aaron Russo
http://youtu.be/zCpjmvaIgNA

The entire interview is very interesting and from the 5 minute point onwards it is the most interesting. (including micro-chipping).

This and similar interviews by Aaron Russo ultimately sealed his fate & premature demise, he died in suspicious circunstances, probably killed by CIA for NWO.
Aaron got his information direct from “the horses mouth” so to speak, because he was well acquainted with one of the Rockefellers. Unfortunately, for him,
it was very dangerous indeed to divulge his source. Other theorists say much the same sort of thing, but they don't openly specify their sources, if they have them,
and accordingly they tend to survive. Aaron was a courageous man, without a doubt.

[Licker]

Hello CM,

I know you have a thing with conspiracy theories, and good on you for that.
The world need people who question things.
My previous comment about aluminium foil was due your previous more ridiculous conspiracy theories (moon landings and such).

Is a punting forum the best place for these questions?
I don't know. But I hope most brothers here use cash when paying for punts :)

As far as the modern society goes, we are no longer far from the big brother knowing all you do.
There's actually two brothers; the government and the commercial enterprises. The latter I think is worse.
AND YOU DO NOT NEED RFI CHIPS FOR THAT!

You can still avoid being on their radar all the time by using more conventional methods of payment (cash) and refusing to let them know what you think and like (by not using facebook, twitter, google search...).

But... most people give this information about themselves without thinking about it.

As far as Aaron Russo and CIA killing him... hmm, not so sure.


For those of you with an open and curious mind.

Aaron Russo
http://youtu.be/zCpjmvaIgNA

The entire interview is very interesting and from the 5 minute point onwards it is the most interesting. (including micro-chipping).

This and similar interviews by Aaron Russo ultimately sealed his fate & premature demise, he died in suspicious circunstances, probably killed by CIA for NWO.
Aaron got his information direct from “the horses mouth” so to speak, because he was well acquainted with one of the Rockefellers. Unfortunately, for him,
it was very dangerous indeed to divulge his source. Other theorists say much the same sort of thing, but they don't openly specify their sources, if they have them,
and accordingly they tend to survive. Aaron was a courageous man, without a doubt.

[wilisno]

So did Neil Armstrong actually walk on the Moon ? ;) ;) ;)

[Licker]

So did Neil Armstrong actually walk on the Moon ? ;) ;) ;)

Or did Louis Armstrong actually sing about moon river?

I can't see him on youtube...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmqLn5l0D0I

[EyesSpyU2day]

Licker: Hello CM,

Presumably CM refers to Cunt Muncher or something equally juvenile. This would be the second swipe
you have taken in my direction. I don't often quote Mel Gibson, but I suspect you most certainly
"have a dog in the race" so to speak.

Punters, just like everyone else, can choose for themselves if they want to make themselves more aware
of the systematic destruction of their long held privacy, and the escalating and coerced journey of descent on the road
to complete serfdom and enslavement by NWO. The Aaron Russo link is just one of many, but what makes him a little different
is his first-hand source, ie a friend who was a Rockefeller, so it's straight from "the horse's mouth."

The youtube link is only 8 minutes long, it could be a very good use of eight minutes I believe. Knowledge is freedom.

[Licker]

Presumably CM refers to Cunt Muncher or something equally juvenile. This would be the second swipe
you have taken in my direction.

"Cunt Muncher", how juvenile indeed!
No, CM refers to Crazy Monkey, a former member on the forum.
If by a miraculous chance you are not the same person, you certainly have the same frame of mind and antics.
The two of you would probably get along just fine.

Apart from 'CM', how did I take a swipe at you? I thought I supported your position on big brother watching?
As for the foil... if you are not CM and this was your first post to a punter forum and it's a conspiracy theory... what did you expect?


I don't often quote Mel Gibson, but I suspect you most certainly "have a dog in the race" so to speak.

Leave Mel out of this, and please leave me out of the 'race' as well.
Or... well okay, I admit. I control the RBA (they just don't know it, since they are stupid communists as Russo so clearly points out).


enslavement by NWO.

Is this the NWO you're talking about? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)

Don't lose your sense of humour friend!

[EyesSpyU2day]

8 minutes of viewing that could change the way you view the world. Only for those of you with an open and curious mind.

Aaron Russo
http://youtu.be/zCpjmvaIgNA

A very interesting and enlightening interview extract, and from the 5 minute point onwards it is even more interesting. (including micro-chipping of humans).

This and similar interviews by Aaron Russo ultimately sealed his fate & premature demise, he died in suspicious circunstances, probably killed by CIA for NWO.
Aaron got his information direct from “the horse's mouth” so to speak, because he was very well acquainted with one of the Rockefellers.
Unfortunately, for Aaron, it was very dangerous indeed to divulge his source. Other theorists have said, and still say much the same sort of thing, but they
don't openly specify their sources, if indeed they have any direct first-hand sources. Accordingly, they tend to survive.

Aaron was a courageous man without a doubt, and perhaps just too trusting that good will ultimately prevail over evil. Thankfully though, he shed some light for
others to see. The youtube link/interview is only 8 minutes long, well worth a look I assure you.

[wilisno]

You should write a poem about it ! ;) ;) ;)

[cisco]

Whats all about ? Where are we now ? Why so Serious ? ;)

[khuntong]

Apparently JFK was killed because he was a mutant...

[EyesSpyU2day]

Privacy has been destroyed over the last 20 years.
There is no freedom anymore – no freedom of thought, expression or speech.

The media/internet significantly influences our thoughts, behaviour and expression. Billions, if not trillions, of dollars are spent on
advertising every year, and for one very good reason – it works.

They want you to “get with it” “log on” and “zone out” – doped up with drugs, alcohol, porn, prescription medicine, media ideology.

You might take the view “what can I do?” “I might as well just make the best of it all, and get laid as much as possible.”

Unfortunately, this is nothing more than a descent into the abyss and entirely self-destructive. This is what they want you to do.
When you lower yourself, you are much easier to control and so much easier to force feed.
If you raise yourself, you escape their control and oppression.

Awaken and rise.

[Licker]

Privacy has been destroyed over the last 20 years.
There is no freedom anymore – no freedom of thought, expression or speech.

Aren't you afraid that CIA will come and get you; now that you have posted messages in support of Aaron's views?
Surely they already know by now who you are and where you live.

[EyesSpyU2day]

Aren't you afraid that CIA will come and get you; now that you have posted messages in support of Aaron's views?
Surely they already know by now who you are and where you live.

Consilio et animis.

[EyesSpyU2day]

Aren't you afraid that CIA will come and get you; now that you have posted messages in support of Aaron's views?
Surely they already know by now who you are and where you live.

Consilio et animis. (wisdom & courage).

Better to live by knowing and seeking the truth, than to simply respond to external stimulus like one of pavlov's dogs.

[AHLUNGOR]

Consilio et animis.


Is that him again ??

He's not trying to hide his identity either !

[wilisno]

Is that him again ??

He's not trying to hide his identity either !
This was my post above :



You should write a poem about it ! ;) ;) ;)


:miao: :miao: :miao:

[EyesSpyU2day]

Seek the truth to end global oppression.

veritas vos liberabit
- the truth shall make you free.

The global media is relentlessly promoting alcohol, sex & porn, drugs,
consumption and compliance with all social trends. They are working for the
ruling elites, encouraging people to “get with the program, dope-up and zone out.’
As we become increasingly intoxicated with the pervasive media advertising,
we “happily” descend into the abyss, as the elites busily prepare for the new era of
the totalitarian world state and the darkest oppression of all humanity.

non teneas aurum totum quod splendet ut aurum
- all that glitters is not gold.

nemo liber est qui corpori servit
- no one is free who is a slave to his body.

ne quid nimis
- nothing in excess.

Awaken, stop the descent to the abyss, seek the truth and rise.

[AHLUNGOR]

Why wasn't him shot on sight ?? :question:

[wilisno]

Why wasn't him shot on sight ?? :question:
Why should he be ?

As long as he's not addressing anybody to get a response, one has the right to talk to himself, doesn't he ?

[EyesSpyU2day]

Seek the truth to end global oppression.

veritas vos liberabit
- the truth shall make you free.

The global media is relentlessly promoting alcohol, sex & porn, drugs,
consumption and compliance with all social trends. They are working for the
ruling elites, encouraging people to “get with the program, dope-up and zone out.’
As we become increasingly intoxicated with the pervasive media advertising,
we “happily” descend into the abyss, as the elites busily prepare for the new era of
the totalitarian world state and the darkest oppression of all humanity.

non teneas aurum totum quod splendet ut aurum
- all that glitters is not gold.

nemo liber est qui corpori servit
- no one is free who is a slave to his body.

ne quid nimis
- nothing in excess.

Awaken, stop the descent to the abyss, seek the truth and rise.

Latin has a fabulous ring to it, wouldn't you say. It seems to make the truth even more sacred.

[khuntong]

Too bloody heavy for me.. I'm out...

[EyesSpyU2day]

Too bloody heavy for me.. I'm out...

The truth can certainly appear "heavy" sometimes, that's why it's easier to zone-out. That's what "they" want.
However, sooner or later, after people have had their fill of the relentless consumption encouraged and
promoted by modernity, the same people realise they have little to show for all that effort consenting
to their own oppression.

[cisco]

N ............?

[cisco]

Maybe Astronaut ;)

[EyesSpyU2day]

Who is they? And WTF are u on about?

I really think you have got confused and ended up on this forum somehow.

"They" are the ruling elites - they control the media and the dissmination of all social trend information.
There is no question of any confusion young fellow; they who control the information and communications
can manipulate most of the people most of the time, and some of the people all the time. Fortunately,
they cannot manipulate all of the people all the time. They want you and everyone else to "zone-out" because
they want you to stop thinking. They simply want you to respond to the external stimuli they provide and consume.
When you stop thinking, you stop being human - remember "I think, therefore I am."

Good luck with it all.....

[duksta]

I find people who still clutch to their tinfoil hat and talk about grand illuminati theories these days quite ridiculous.

All this talk about the "truth" yet not a single piece of rational evidence to support it.

We live in an era where :
* More people are literate and numerate than any other time in history;
* Access to information to the general population for free is at unprecedented levels;
* Relatively speaking, we are enjoying the longest period of global peace and prosperity in recorded civilisation;
* Access to education, welfare and sustenance services is more freely available to more people than at any other time in recorded history;
* While disparity between the extremes of wealth and poverty have increased, the median position is higher than its ever been in recorded history.

The biggest irony is that this guy wants to quote Latin - now the only group that still speaks that dead language is the exact group that spent close to a millennium actively discouraging and fighting against having an educated populace, and still regard themselves as the absolute arbiters on moral truth. If you want to see real oppression and tyranny, open up your history books! Compared to where we were, we are in the most enlightened and "free" era civilisation has ever seen.

Open your own eyes!

[EyesSpyU2day]

I find people who still clutch to their tinfoil hat and talk about grand illuminati theories these days quite ridiculous.

All this talk about the "truth" yet not a single piece of rational evidence to support it. (see below for accurate info comrade)

We live in an era where :
* More people are literate and numerate than any other time in history; (literacy and numeracy standards have fallen in recent decades)
* Access to information to the general population for free is at unprecedented levels; (access to disinformation, advertising and toxic media ideology)
* Relatively speaking, we are enjoying the longest period of global peace and prosperity in recorded civilisation; (Absurd - 60million dead in WW2, Mao killed 150million chinese)
* Access to education, welfare and sustenance services is more freely available to more people than at any other time in recorded history; (technology is here, but standards are falling)
* While disparity between the extremes of wealth and poverty have increased, the median position is higher than its ever been in recorded history. (so TV, Videos, Dvds, Computers enrich you?)

The biggest irony is that this guy wants to quote Latin - now the only group that still speaks that dead language is the exact group that spent close to a millennium actively discouraging and fighting against having an educated populace, and still regard themselves as the absolute arbiters on moral truth. If you want to see real oppression and tyranny, open up your history books! Compared to where we were, we are in the most enlightened and "free" era civilisation has ever seen. (civilisation is in complete decline, it's degenerating - haven't you noticed? - maybe too busy consuming to notice?)

Open your own eyes! (You have to think, when you think you understand - when you simply look with open eyes, you see only the commodities/services for our consumption & oppression)

I suspect you may have a "dog in the race." C'est la vie.

[duksta]

* Most peaceful period in history - http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2012/03/pinker-explains-the-long-peace/

I'll take Stephen Pinker over your rants anyday.

* Literary Standards - http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=xx&v=39

Although I'm sure you'll claim these figures are biased by the conspiracy leaders....

* Access to information - Project Gutenberg, The Internet, Online Publishing, it even allows kook theories like yours! See also http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?v=118&c=xx&l=en

* Health and welfare - from http://www.who.int/whr/2008/whr08_en.pdf
"On the whole, people are healthier, wealthier and live longer today than 30 years ago. If children were still dying at 1978 rates, there would have been 16.2 million deaths globally i n 2006. In fact, there were only 9.5 million such deaths. This difference of 6.7 million is equivalent to 18 329 children’s lives being saved every day. The once revolutionary notion of essential drugs has become commonplace. There have been significant improvements in access to water, sanitation and antenatal care."

* Civilisation in decline - really? By what measure? Bring some facts to the table, not rhetoric and baseless opinion.

[EyesSpyU2day]

* Most peaceful period in history - http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2012/03/pinker-explains-the-long-peace/

I'll take Stephen Pinker over your rants anyday.

* Literary Standards - http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=xx&v=39

Although I'm sure you'll claim these figures are biased by the conspiracy leaders....

* Access to information - Project Gutenberg, The Internet, Online Publishing, it even allows kook theories like yours! See also http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?v=118&c=xx&l=en

* Health and welfare - from http://www.who.int/whr/2008/whr08_en.pdf
"On the whole, people are healthier, wealthier and live longer today than 30 years ago. If children were still dying at 1978 rates, there would have been 16.2 million deaths globally i n 2006. In fact, there were only 9.5 million such deaths. This difference of 6.7 million is equivalent to 18 329 children’s lives being saved every day. The once revolutionary notion of essential drugs has become commonplace. There have been significant improvements in access to water, sanitation and antenatal care."

* Civilisation in decline - really? By what measure? Bring some facts to the table, not rhetoric and baseless opinion.

When we had our privacy, then we had our freedom. Unfortunately, our privacy has been systematically destroyed over the last few decades and it continues to accelerate with our ever increasing exposure to digital technologies. This is an undeniable fact; companies and governments are obsessed with gathering and collating all our information. They want to know everything about us, whether we like it or not.

Put simply, we cannot have an enhanced level of freedom by losing our privacy.
By losing our privacy we are inceasingly oppressed – mere units of production and consumption.

You do like the notion of access – access to technology, welfare, education, health, commodities etc, etc, but access to something has nothing to do with freedom.

If people have a few dollars in their pocket they tend to eat more and become obese (you've heard of obesity no doubt), they go on the pokies too much, they punt too much, they drink too much, they buy stuff they don’t need. Much of this excessive activity leads to an increased dependency on health and welfare services. Such services are in fact pre-requisites to accommodate the fallout from the excesses of modernity – ie. the decline of humanity.

[EyesSpyU2day]

Interesting views.

Tell us more please.

Gladly......

There are forces at work that seek to destroy our long held privacy, to diminish our freedoms and ultimately entirely oppress humanity. This process has been going on for many years, because it is not something that can be introduced overnight – the people would not tolerate that. The population has to be conditioned before they will accept the loss of privacy and freedom. Media and advertising have been conditioning us for years, and it continues.

With the extensive expansion of digital technologies, the process of oppression has accelerated sgnificantly over the last decade or so. In reality, the conditioning essentially provides the sugar-coat for the bitter pill of oppression. Through digital technology (media/advertising/information & communications) we are encouraged to consume, consume, consume, and it works – we eat too much, drink too much, gamble too much, watch porn too much, punt too much, sit down too much, use drugs too much, take prescription medicines too much, etc, etc.

We do everything they want us to do, most of all we stop thinking for ourselves. We dope-up with all manner of products and services and we zone out. Ultimately, we simply respond to the external stimuli they provide for us through the media & associated communications. This is, in fact, a descent into animalistic behaviour and is very comparable to what Pavlov did in his animal experiments, ie Pavlov’s dogs.

When we stop thinking we stop being human – our humanity declines. The ruling elites seek to seduce us with technology and all associated products & services. While we are being seduced, our privacy and our freedom are being destroyed. Eventually, a totalitarian police/miltary state will be imposed, where our every movement and action is known and controlled – ie no freedom/no privacy - the oppression of all humanity. The technology is already available for this, but the conditioning has not yet been completed, still a few more years to go.

Awaken and rise, seek the truth and find the light. The truth will set you free.

[duksta]

Ok.... so now I'm getting what you're saying.... It reminds me of something I read in my old philosophy studies - I did a little digging and found the following quotes, please let me know it these are consistent with your definitions of freedom and oppression.

" By "freedom" we mean the opportunity to go through the power process, with real goals not the artificial goals of surrogate activities, and without interference, manipulation or supervision from anyone, especially from any large organization. Freedom means being in control (either as an individual or as a member of a SMALL group) of the life-and-death issues of one's existence; food, clothing, shelter and defense against whatever threats there may be in one's environment. Freedom means having power; not the power to control other people but the power to control the circumstances of one's own life. One does not have freedom if anyone else (especially a large organization) has power over one, no matter how benevolently, tolerantly and permissively that power may be exercised."

And,

"There has been a consistent tendency, going back at least to the Industrial Revolution for technology to strengthen the system at a high cost in individual freedom and local autonomy. Hence any change designed to protect freedom from technology would be contrary to a fundamental trend in the development of our society .... Changes large enough to make a lasting difference in favour of freedom would not be initiated because it would realized that they would gravely disrupt the system."

[EyesSpyU2day]

Ok.... so now I'm getting what you're saying.... It reminds me of something I read in my old philosophy studies - I did a little digging and found the following quotes, please let me know it these are consistent with your definitions of freedom and oppression.

" By "freedom" we mean the opportunity to go through the power process, with real goals not the artificial goals of surrogate activities, and without interference, manipulation or supervision from anyone, especially from any large organization. Freedom means being in control (either as an individual or as a member of a SMALL group) of the life-and-death issues of one's existence; food, clothing, shelter and defense against whatever threats there may be in one's environment. Freedom means having power; not the power to control other people but the power to control the circumstances of one's own life. One does not have freedom if anyone else (especially a large organization) has power over one, no matter how benevolently, tolerantly and permissively that power may be exercised."

And,

"There has been a consistent tendency, going back at least to the Industrial Revolution for technology to strengthen the system at a high cost in individual freedom and local autonomy. Hence any change designed to protect freedom from technology would be contrary to a fundamental trend in the development of our society .... Changes large enough to make a lasting difference in favour of freedom would not be initiated because it would realized that they would gravely disrupt the system."

Yes, certainly, these quotes are very consistent with my definitions of freedom and oppression. They are so consistent, I might have written them myself.
It's quite interesting that you haven't mentioned the individuals responsible. Nevertheless, I do feel compelled to say "great minds think alike." I prefer to
position myself at a strategic or philosophical level, rather than get bogged down in micro levels details. Detail certainly has it's place, but the bigger picture
is more important. I appreciate your interest and the aforementioned quotes.

Cheers....

[duksta]

Yes, certainly, these quotes are very consistent with my definitions of freedom and oppression. They are so consistent, I might have written them myself.
It's quite interesting that you haven't mentioned the individuals responsible. Nevertheless, I do feel compelled to say "great minds think alike." I prefer to
position myself at a strategic or philosophical level, rather than get bogged down in micro levels details. Detail certainly has it's place, but the bigger picture
is more important. I appreciate your interest and the aforementioned quotes.

Cheers....

I didn't mention the Author for a reason - these quotes are writings of a man named Theodore (Ted) Kaczynski, a paranoid schizophrenic psychopath, serial murderer and true terrorist, better known by his moniker, the Unabomber. This sad, deluded individual rana campaign of terror sending letter bombs to promote his sad, Neo-Luddite "manifesto", killing three people and injuring at least 23 others.

Much of this was also copied verbatim into Anders Breivik's "2083: A European Declaration of Independence", his manifesto which was used to justify this particular paranoid schizophrenic and narcissistic personality disordered person committing the largest mass homicide by an individual, killing 77 Norweigans, mostly teenagers.

So you'll forgive me if I look at your views now and think that you should really rethink your world view, considering they support terrorists, mass murderers and people with massive psychological issues. And to everyone else, if he asks for your address to send you some of his literature, for god's sake just say no!!!!

[wilisno]

So you'll forgive me if I look at your views now and think that you should really rethink your world view, considering they support terrorists, mass murderers and people with massive psychological issues. And to everyone else, if he asks for your address to send you some of his literature, for god's sake just say no!!!!

It's been well documented before on this forum ! :miao:

[CunningLinguist]

Yes, certainly, these quotes are very consistent with my definitions of freedom and oppression. They are so consistent, I might have written them myself.
It's quite interesting that you haven't mentioned the individuals responsible. Nevertheless, I do feel compelled to say "great minds think alike." I prefer to
position myself at a strategic or philosophical level, rather than get bogged down in micro levels details. Detail certainly has it's place, but the bigger picture
is more important. I appreciate your interest and the aforementioned quotes.

Cheers....


I didn't mention the Author for a reason - these quotes are writings of a man named Theodore (Ted) Kaczynski, a paranoid schizophrenic psychopath, serial murderer and true terrorist, better known by his moniker, the Unabomber. This sad, deluded individual rana campaign of terror sending letter bombs to promote his sad, Neo-Luddite "manifesto", killing three people and injuring at least 23 others.

Much of this was also copied verbatim into Anders Breivik's "2083: A European Declaration of Independence", his manifesto which was used to justify this particular paranoid schizophrenic and narcissistic personality disordered person committing the largest mass homicide by an individual, killing 77 Norweigans, mostly teenagers.

So you'll forgive me if I look at your views now and think that you should really rethink your world view, considering they support terrorists, mass murderers and people with massive psychological issues. And to everyone else, if he asks for your address to send you some of his literature, for god's sake just say no!!!!

I think this is what we say in the trade as a slam dunk, followed by a hand reaching into your chest and pulling your heart out, and then being sodomised by an orangutan!!!
This is so fucking funny, ducksta you da man!

Just to let everyone know this is not the first time this troll has been exposed, plenty more material here:
http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?39297-Banned-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again

Now it's going to be interesting to see how it (the troll) responds, he is probably very angry right now (of course he will deny it since I mentioned this) but if he takes too long to respond he will know he has lost, so he will ty to deflect and evade and attack to avoid the issue, or maybe he will just admit he is a narcisstic lonely loser dumb-arse troll ... :)

I will be updating the banned page with duckstas post, this is gold, pure gold!

I haven't laughed this much since the guillotine picture Sextus posted after he lost is fake french writing style as Richard le rod.

[EyesSpyU2day]

I didn't mention the Author for a reason - these quotes are writings of a man named Theodore (Ted) Kaczynski, a paranoid schizophrenic psychopath, serial murderer and true terrorist, better known by his moniker, the Unabomber. This sad, deluded individual rana campaign of terror sending letter bombs to promote his sad, Neo-Luddite "manifesto", killing three people and injuring at least 23 others.

Much of this was also copied verbatim into Anders Breivik's "2083: A European Declaration of Independence", his manifesto which was used to justify this particular paranoid schizophrenic and narcissistic personality disordered person committing the largest mass homicide by an individual, killing 77 Norweigans, mostly teenagers.

So you'll forgive me if I look at your views now and think that you should really rethink your world view, considering they support terrorists, mass murderers and people with massive psychological issues. And to everyone else, if he asks for your address to send you some of his literature, for god's sake just say no!!!!

Millions of people all around the world hold very similar views of freedom, privacy and human exploitation & oppression.
The fact that you use "inductive" reasoning to go from the specific to the general, rather than the general to the specific,
which is the normal deductive reasoning, reflects your pathetic and very sad agenda - to ridicule and discredit something you don't understand.

Your ignorant "inductive reasoning" is saying this:
A murderer/terrorist holds a view about freedom and privacy.
Therefore, all others who hold a comparable view on freedom and privacy are likely murderers and terrorists.
This thinking reflects the mindset of a halfwit and simpleton.

Let me give you another example of your kind of "inductive reasoning."
The rapist/murderer/terrorist had a blue car,
therefore all people with a blue car are likely rapists, murderers, terrorists.

Another example of "inductive reasoning."
Chairman Mao claimed to be a communist, his regime killed 100-150 million Chinese.
Therefore, all people who claim to be communists are likely to be mass genocidal murderers.

Leave intelligent discussions to the grown ups, and stop attempting to corrupt this thread with your stupid bile.
Does this discussion thread threaten you? I've heard that ignorant degenerates are very easily threatened.

[CunningLinguist]

Here is another quote from the troll:

The whinging slags and their lawyers seeking a payout from Rolf Harris to cover their miserable middle-age,
should be thrown out of court, then charged themselves for wasting police & court time to serve their own
vile purpose of financial betterment. Their would be no proceedings if Rolf was poor, it's just a tacky cash grab.
Shame on the ugly gold-diggers playing the victim card 30/40 years after the "life-changing" events.

Good onya Rolf.
Ref: http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?41806-Slags-amp-Lawyers-Seeking-A-Payout-from-Rolf-Harris-to-Cover-their-Miserable-Middle-Age&p=494539&viewfull=1#post494539

Now what sort of reasoning shall we use to tell us how the troll views child sexual abuse ???

[EyesSpyU2day]

Bad luck Ducksta or should I say CunningLinguist -

You're gonna have to grow up and start using deductive reasoning, as opposed to your juvenile "inductive" twoddle.

How many aliases do you have CL? I genuinely feel sorry for you, such a sad individual.
You keep trying to ridicule, you keep telling everyone what you think you've done, and
and you keep failing. Worst of all, nobody cares - only you.
You're such a delicate sensitive soul - once offended always offended. Keep taking your medication.

[EyesSpyU2day]

Interesting views.

Tell us more please.

Gladly......

There are forces at work that seek to destroy our long held privacy, to diminish our freedoms and ultimately entirely oppress humanity. This process has been going on for many years, because it is not something that can be introduced overnight – the people would not tolerate that. The population has to be conditioned before they will accept the loss of privacy and freedom. Media and advertising have been conditioning us for years, and it continues.

With the extensive expansion of digital technologies, the process of oppression has accelerated sgnificantly over the last decade or so. In reality, the conditioning essentially provides the sugar-coat for the bitter pill of oppression. Through digital technology (media/advertising/information & communications) we are encouraged to consume, consume, consume, and it works – we eat too much, drink too much, gamble too much, watch porn too much, punt too much, sit down too much, use drugs too much, take prescription medicines too much, etc, etc.

We do everything they want us to do, most of all we stop thinking for ourselves. We dope-up with all manner of products and services and we zone out. Ultimately, we simply respond to the external stimuli they provide for us through the media & associated communications. This is, in fact, a descent into animalistic behaviour and is very comparable to what Pavlov did in his animal experiments, ie Pavlov’s dogs.

When we stop thinking we stop being human – our humanity declines. The ruling elites seek to seduce us with technology and all associated products & services. While we are being seduced, our privacy and our freedom are being destroyed. Eventually, a totalitarian police/miltary state will be imposed, where our every movement and action is known and controlled – ie no freedom/no privacy - the oppression of all humanity. The technology is already available for this, but the conditioning has not yet been completed, still a few more years to go.

Awaken and rise, seek the truth and find the light. The truth will set you free.

[EyesSpyU2day]

8 minutes of viewing that could change the way you view the world. Only for those of you with an open and curious mind.

Aaron Russo (Hollywood Producer, Film Maker)
http://youtu.be/zCpjmvaIgNA

A very interesting and enlightening interview extract, and from the 5 minute point onwards it is even more interesting. (including micro-chipping of humans).

This and similar interviews by Aaron Russo ultimately sealed his fate & premature demise, he died in suspicious circunstances, probably killed by CIA for NWO.

Aaron got his information direct from “the horse's mouth” so to speak, because he was very well acquainted with one of the Rockefellers.

Unfortunately, for Aaron, it was very dangerous indeed to divulge his source. Other theorists have said, and still say much the same sort of thing,
but they don't openly specify their sources, if indeed they have any direct first-hand sources. Accordingly, they tend to survive.

Aaron was a courageous man without a doubt, and perhaps just too trusting that good will ultimately prevail over evil.
Thankfully though, he shed some light for others to see.

The youtube link/interview is only 8 minutes long, well worth a look I assure you.

[duksta]

Millions of people all around the world hold very similar views of freedom, privacy and human exploitation & oppression.
The fact that you use "inductive" reasoning to go from the specific to the general, rather than the general to the specific,
which is the normal deductive reasoning, reflects your pathetic and very sad agenda, to ridicule and discredit something you don't understand.


Billions of people would hold that you're a crackpot. If you want to prove you're not, go read the Unabomber manifesto and tell me what's in it that you'd actually disagree with. Because it's basically the Bible for Neo-Luddite and anarcho-primitivists like you.

Re: inductive vs deductive reasoning - congratulations on passing your cereal packet philosophy course. Comeback once you've actually done some real study.



Leave intelligent discussions to the grown ups, and stop attempting to corrupt this thread with your stupid bile.
Does this discussion thread threaten you? I've heard that ignorant degenerates are very easily threatened.

Pot. Kettle. Black. My mother always told me not to have battles of wits with unarmed people. She also told me not to feed the trolls. Guess I should have listened to her....

[duksta]

Bad luck Ducksta or should I say CunningLinguist -



CL and myself are two completely separate individuals. Do I detect delusional behaviour? Uh oh, hope you don't have any sharp objects nearby....

[EyesSpyU2day]

Interesting views.

Tell us more please.

I gladly will, please check my subsequent posts.

[duksta]

8 minutes of viewing that could change the way you view the world. Only for those of you with an open and curious mind.

Aaron Russo (Hollywood Producer, Film Maker)
http://youtu.be/zCpjmvaIgNA

A very interesting and enlightening interview extract, and from the 5 minute point onwards it is even more interesting. (including micro-chipping of humans).

This and similar interviews by Aaron Russo ultimately sealed his fate & premature demise, he died in suspicious circunstances, probably killed by CIA for NWO.

Aaron got his information direct from “the horse's mouth” so to speak, because he was very well acquainted with one of the Rockefellers.

Unfortunately, for Aaron, it was very dangerous indeed to divulge his source. Other theorists have said, and still say much the same sort of thing,
but they don't openly specify their sources, if indeed they have any direct first-hand sources. Accordingly, they tend to survive.

Aaron was a courageous man without a doubt, and perhaps just too trusting that good will ultimately prevail over evil.
Thankfully though, he shed some light for others to see.

The youtube link/interview is only 8 minutes long, well worth a look I assure you.

Aaron Russo died of Bladder cancer. There is no evidence of any involvement that "caused" his cancer.

The only thing that comes out of a Horse's mouth is neighing.... So I say "Neigh" to this....

How convenient that no-one can cite a reference that can be verified. I hereby state that you are a troll - not an internet one (that bit is proven) but a literal one - you live under a bridge, are green, warty and extraordinarily ugly, and you eat small children and people that don't pay the toll to cross your bridge. I have proof for this, but if I cite my sources the Troll Hunters will come to get me, and I'll mysteriously get Ebola.... So I won't divulge how I know this, because doing so would get me too close to the "truth"....

Goodbye Troll. It's been fun, don't eat too many children! If you do, your mates Ted and Anders will have plenty of consoling words.

[EyesSpyU2day]

8 minutes of viewing that could change the way you view the world. Only for those of you with an open and curious mind.

Aaron Russo (Hollywood Producer, Film Maker)
http://youtu.be/zCpjmvaIgNA

A very interesting and enlightening interview extract, and from the 5 minute point onwards it is even more interesting. (including micro-chipping of humans).

This and similar interviews by Aaron Russo ultimately sealed his fate & premature demise, he died in suspicious circunstances, probably killed by CIA for NWO.

Aaron got his information direct from “the horse's mouth” so to speak, because he was very well acquainted with one of the Rockefellers.

Unfortunately, for Aaron, it was very dangerous indeed to divulge his source. Other theorists have said, and still say much the same sort of thing,
but they don't openly specify their sources, if indeed they have any direct first-hand sources. Accordingly, they tend to survive.

Aaron was a courageous man without a doubt, and perhaps just too trusting that good will ultimately prevail over evil.
Thankfully though, he shed some light for others to see.

The youtube link/interview is only 8 minutes long, well worth a look I assure you.

[EyesSpyU2day]

*
Interesting views.

Tell us more please.

Gladly......

There are forces at work that seek to destroy our long held privacy, to diminish our freedoms and ultimately entirely oppress humanity. This process has been going on for many years, because it is not something that can be introduced overnight – the people would not tolerate that. The population has to be conditioned before they will accept the loss of privacy and freedom. Media and advertising have been conditioning us for years, and it continues.

With the extensive expansion of digital technologies, the process of oppression has accelerated sgnificantly over the last decade or so. In reality, the conditioning essentially provides the sugar-coat for the bitter pill of oppression. Through digital technology (media/advertising/information & communications) we are encouraged to consume, consume, consume, and it works – we eat too much, drink too much, gamble too much, watch porn too much, punt too much, sit down too much, use drugs too much, take prescription medicines too much, etc, etc.

We do everything they want us to do, most of all we stop thinking for ourselves. We dope-up with all manner of products and services and we zone out. Ultimately, we simply respond to the external stimuli they provide for us through the media & associated communications. This is, in fact, a descent into animalistic behaviour and is very comparable to what Pavlov did in his animal experiments, ie Pavlov’s dogs.

When we stop thinking we stop being human – our humanity declines. The ruling elites seek to seduce us with technology and all associated products & services. While we are being seduced, our privacy and our freedom are being destroyed. Eventually, a totalitarian police/miltary state will be imposed, where our every movement and action is known and controlled – ie no freedom/no privacy - the oppression of all humanity. The technology is already available for this, but the conditioning has not yet been completed, still a few more years to go.

Awaken and rise, seek the truth and find the light. The truth will set you free.

[cisco]

Set me free .....;)

[EyesSpyU2day]

Set me free .....;)

veritas vos liberabit
- the truth shall make you free.

But.....

nemo liber est qui corpori servit
- no one is free who is a slave to his body.

Because.....

non teneas aurum totum quod splendet ut aurum
- all that glitters is not gold.

Sooner or later, after people have had their fill of the relentless & destructive consumption encouraged and promoted by current modernity,
the same people realise they have very little to show for all the effort they made "consenting" to their own oppression.

Awaken, seek the truth, stop your descent into the abyss, and rise.

[harmony]

I fear organised crime far more than government conspiracy theories
Conspiracy theorists bore me

Im just waiting for the news of an identity theft crime occurring on a grand scale, say 500 people having fake passports being created in their names.
Grand scale identity theft is just a matter of time

[duksta]

veritas vos liberabit
- the truth shall make you free.


Cuilibet fatuo placet sua calva
- Every fool is pleased with his own folly...

[Atomique]

He walked straight into your trap!


I didn't mention the Author for a reason - these quotes are writings of a man named Theodore (Ted) Kaczynski, a paranoid schizophrenic psychopath, serial murderer and true terrorist, better known by his moniker, the Unabomber. This sad, deluded individual rana campaign of terror sending letter bombs to promote his sad, Neo-Luddite "manifesto", killing three people and injuring at least 23 others.

Much of this was also copied verbatim into Anders Breivik's "2083: A European Declaration of Independence", his manifesto which was used to justify this particular paranoid schizophrenic and narcissistic personality disordered person committing the largest mass homicide by an individual, killing 77 Norweigans, mostly teenagers.

So you'll forgive me if I look at your views now and think that you should really rethink your world view, considering they support terrorists, mass murderers and people with massive psychological issues. And to everyone else, if he asks for your address to send you some of his literature, for god's sake just say no!!!!

[Atomique]

You annihilated his entire argument with a SINGLE POST! There's no retort to such an array of COLD HARD FACTS!

Wow I haven't seen such a mismatch since iron Mike Tyson KO'ed Petr Palecek (8 seconds into the first round) way back in 1982!


* Most peaceful period in history - http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2012/03/pinker-explains-the-long-peace/

I'll take Stephen Pinker over your rants anyday.

* Literary Standards - http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=xx&v=39

Although I'm sure you'll claim these figures are biased by the conspiracy leaders....

* Access to information - Project Gutenberg, The Internet, Online Publishing, it even allows kook theories like yours! See also http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?v=118&c=xx&l=en

* Health and welfare - from http://www.who.int/whr/2008/whr08_en.pdf
"On the whole, people are healthier, wealthier and live longer today than 30 years ago. If children were still dying at 1978 rates, there would have been 16.2 million deaths globally i n 2006. In fact, there were only 9.5 million such deaths. This difference of 6.7 million is equivalent to 18 329 children’s lives being saved every day. The once revolutionary notion of essential drugs has become commonplace. There have been significant improvements in access to water, sanitation and antenatal care."

* Civilisation in decline - really? By what measure? Bring some facts to the table, not rhetoric and baseless opinion.

[duksta]

I fear organised crime far more than government conspiracy theories
Conspiracy theorists bore me

Im just waiting for the news of an identity theft crime occurring on a grand scale, say 500 people having fake passports being created in their names.
Grand scale identity theft is just a matter of time

Wynyard station has a stall.

[harmony]

"Wynyard station has a stall"

The train station near me in Chatswood also have people selling OPAL cards
The catch was they were not taking cash, and they wanted you to pay with their EFTPOS terminal, so they still can get my details on their receipts

Some newsagents are selling $40 kits - I bet they have to be activated online with your details
Kits ? I just want the OPAL card haha

[duksta]

"Wynyard station has a stall"

The train station near me in Chatswood also have people selling OPAL cards
The catch was they were not taking cash, and they wanted you to pay with their EFTPOS terminal, so they still can get my details on their receipts

Some newsagents are selling $40 kits - I bet they have to be activated online with your details
Kits ? I just want the OPAL card haha

If you pay by EFTPOS, I believe the card is still unregistered. Technically they might be able to link the card to the purchase transaction, but I don't think they actually record that detail.

I'm not a fan of the T&Cs for the Opal card either. Hopefully we can hold out a little longer and they'll have some better options.

[EyesSpyU2day]

Cuilibet fatuo placet sua calva
- Every fool is pleased with his own folly...

You are an advocate and exponent of "inductive reasoning" and I'm the fool - most amusing.

Millions of people all around the world hold very similar views of freedom, privacy and human exploitation & oppression. You either believe in freedom and privacy or you don’t.

CL & Ducksta (& others) now use "inductive" reasoning to make their sad points - going from the specific to the general,
rather than the general to the specific ( ie deductive reasoning) which is the norm for intelligent people.
This low-brow approach reflects their sad agenda (as ever), to ridicule and discredit something they don't like.

They can’t argue their case, so they use inductive reasoning to attempt to discredit others. It’s embarrassing to see these simpletons fall ever further into the abyss.
They are so very scared of free speech and free expression, only craving some pathetic affirmation of their degenerate ignorance from the same old cronies with new aliases.

Their ignorant "inductive reasoning" is saying this:
A murderer/terrorist believes in freedom and privacy.
Therefore, all others who hold a comparable view on freedom and privacy are likely murderers and terrorists.
Clearly, this thinking reflects the mindset of degenerate halfwits and simpletons.

Another example of "inductive reasoning."
The rapist/murderer/terrorist had a blue car,
therefore all people with a blue car are likely rapists, murderers, terrorists.

Another example of "inductive reasoning."
Chairman Mao claimed to be a communist, his regime killed 100-150 million Chinese.
Therefore, all people who claim to be communists are likely to be mass genocidal murderers.

Another example of "inductive reasoning."
Hitler had a moustache, all people with a moustache must be like Hitler.

Another example of “inductive reasoning.”
A muslim beheaded a western journalist. Therefore alll muslims want to behead western journalists.

Another example of “inductive reasoning.”
The woman was Asian and she was a prostitute. Therefore all Asian women are prostitutes.

Inductive reasoning is the antithesis of intelligent discourse. It is used by those unable and unwilling to argue their case in open discussion,
because they fear they would lose any such argument. Inductive reasoning is the domain of the simpleton, the deranged, the degenerate,
the totalitarian dictator, the permissive left. Ipso facto, there is no discussion, no debate, no freedom, and no privacy in the 21st century totalitarian world.

Free and open discussions are very threatening to degenerates and other supporters of the totalitarian world.
Both totalitarians, who seek the oppression of humanity, and ignorant degenerates, quickly take offence because they are threatened by the truth & light –
they live in the dark and they will die the dark, this is the way of these hapless unfortunates.

[duksta]

Ok, because you got your ideas out of a cereal packet, I'm going to correct you.

1. I was not using inductive reasoning at all. You admitted that "you would have wrote the words themselves", and made the FALSE assumption that I was trying to make an argument that because you subscribed to these views, that you are a psychopath/terrorist/serial killer. In fact this is not true - you chose to create a "Straw Man" (go look it up, you might learn something) and totally ignore the issue at hand. I DID ask you to distinguish your views from the manifesto of a paranoid schizophrenic, narcissistic criminal. You chose to ignore that.

2. You talk about deductive reasoning, yet have NOT ONCE shown any capacity to do so. Your argument here (apart from the straw man, see above) has not presented a single fact (unless you include horses...) nor demonstrated any form of logical analysis. Let's make a list of the informal Fallacies used by you so far....

-Argument from Ignorance
-ad hominem (ooh, a latin one, you'll like that!)
-Begging the question
-Confirmation bias
-False Attribution
-Kettle Logic
-Proof by Assertion
-Red Herrings
-Probably a few Slippery Slopes too. But not even sure there's enough argument for it to even be a slope...

3. In actual fact, if you want to accuse me of an Informal Fallacy, I'll happily own up to using an "Appeal to ridicule" in "proving" that you are indeed, literally, a troll. Warts and all. Amusingly, I used exactly the same "deductive reasoning" you claimed to use to support your "truth".

4. I really should listen to my mum more. She's already told me how pointless this all is. Please don't eat me, troll!

[EyesSpyU2day]

This has been a very interesting discusssion for most people I would say, including myself.
Whoever started this thread should be congratulated, oh it was me – ah, never mind.

However, since CunningLinquist and Ducksta (probably one and the same) descended to corrupt the thread,
the free and open discussion has been somewhat lost. Because he/she doesn’t like the nature of the discussion he/she actively
seeks to disrupt and discredit it – even using absurd inductive reasoning to make an even more absurd point – how embarrassing for him/her, or them.

It would seem that the forum’s impartial observers can safely deduce that he/she is so seduced by the digital age that he/she does not believe in, or want,
meaningful freedom and privacy, or that he/she considers our freedoms and privacies are not being eroded by the ever expanding digital era.

Undoubtedly, either position is a very compliant, even submissive, position to take in the early 21st century.
Clearly, the era of conditioning and media seduction has been very successful in his/her case – no doubt a willing recipient.

[CunningLinguist]

Ok, because you got your ideas out of a cereal packet, I'm going to correct you.

1. I was not using inductive reasoning at all. You admitted that "you would have wrote the words themselves", and made the FALSE assumption that I was trying to make an argument that because you subscribed to these views, that you are a psychopath/terrorist/serial killer. In fact this is not true - you chose to create a "Straw Man" (go look it up, you might learn something) and totally ignore the issue at hand. I DID ask you to distinguish your views from the manifesto of a paranoid schizophrenic, narcissistic criminal. You chose to ignore that.

2. You talk about deductive reasoning, yet have NOT ONCE shown any capacity to do so. Your argument here (apart from the straw man, see above) has not presented a single fact (unless you include horses...) nor demonstrated any form of logical analysis. Let's make a list of the informal Fallacies used by you so far....

-Argument from Ignorance
-ad hominem (ooh, a latin one, you'll like that!)
-Begging the question
-Confirmation bias
-False Attribution
-Kettle Logic
-Proof by Assertion
-Red Herrings
-Probably a few Slippery Slopes too. But not even sure there's enough argument for it to even be a slope...

3. In actual fact, if you want to accuse me of an Informal Fallacy, I'll happily own up to using an "Appeal to ridicule" in "proving" that you are indeed, literally, a troll. Warts and all. Amusingly, I used exactly the same "deductive reasoning" you claimed to use to support your "truth".

4. I really should listen to my mum more. She's already told me how pointless this all is. Please don't eat me, troll!

Another slam dunk and arse reaming inflicted on the troll by ducksta!
I'm gonna add this to the banned page:
http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?39297-Banned-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again

Check out the psy prof on this child sexual molesting supporter (http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?41806-Slags-amp-Lawyers-Seeking-A-Payout-from-Rolf-Harris-to-Cover-their-Miserable-Middle-Age&p=494539&viewfull=1#post494539):
http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?42455-Psychological-profile-of-the-quot-poet-quot-troll

[EyesSpyU2day]

Another slam dunk and arse reaming inflicted on the troll by ducksta!

Wishful thinking from the fixated degenerate CunningLinquist - an exponent and advocate of "inductive reasoning."

(note: inductive reasoning - e.g "the Asian woman was a prostitute, therefore all Asian women are likely prostitutes)

[duksta]

Wow, another straw man, a proof by assertion, false attribution, and some ad hominem for extra effect.

Oh, and a completely false assertion that CL and I are the same person. He's getting delusional!

Where's TMC? I think this guy needs to see a Therapist! Stat!

[EyesSpyU2day]

More examples of inductive reasoning (a method of thinking expounded and advocated by CL and Duksta)

Their ignorant "inductive reasoning" is saying this:
A murderer/terrorist believes in freedom and privacy.
Therefore, all others who hold a comparable view on freedom and privacy are likely murderers and terrorists.
Clearly, this thinking reflects the mindset of degenerate halfwits and simpletons.

Another example of "inductive reasoning."
The rapist/murderer/terrorist had a blue car,
therefore all people with a blue car are likely rapists, murderers, terrorists.

Another example of "inductive reasoning."
Chairman Mao claimed to be a communist, his regime killed 100-150 million Chinese.
Therefore, all people who claim to be communists are likely to be mass genocidal murderers.

Another example of "inductive reasoning."
Hitler had a moustache, all people with a moustache must be like Hitler.

Another example of “inductive reasoning.”
A muslim beheaded a western journalist. Therefore alll muslims want to behead western journalists.

Another example of “inductive reasoning.”
The woman was Asian and she was a prostitute. Therefore all Asian women are prostitutes.

Inductive reasoning is the antithesis of intelligent discourse. It is used by those unable and unwilling to argue their case in open discussion,
because they fear they would lose any such argument. Inductive reasoning is the domain of the simpleton, the deranged, the degenerate,
the totalitarian dictator, the permissive left. Ipso facto, there is no discussion, no debate, no freedom, and no privacy in the 21st century totalitarian world.

[duksta]

This has been a very interesting discusssion for most people I would say, including myself.
Whoever started this thread should be congratulated, oh it was me – ah, never mind.

However, since CunningLinquist and Ducksta (probably one and the same) descended to corrupt the thread,
the free and open discussion has been a somewhat lost. Because he/she doesn’t like the nature of the discussion he/she actively
seeks to disrupt and discredit it – even using absurd inductive reasoning to make even a more absurd point – how embarrassing for him/her, or them.

It would seem that the forum’s impartial observers can safely deduce that he/she is so seduced by the digital age that he/she does not believe in, or want,
meaningful freedom and privacy, or that he/she considers our freedoms and privacies are not being eroded by the ever expanding digital era.

Undoubtedly, either position is a very compliant, even submissive, position to take in the early 21st century.
Clearly, the era of conditioning and media seduction has been very successful in his/her case – no doubt a willing recipient.

Wow, another straw man, a proof by assertion, false attribution, and some ad hominem for extra effect.

Oh, and a completely false assertion that CL and I are the same person. He's getting delusional!

Where's TMC? I think this guy needs to see a Therapist! Stat!

[wilisno]

Where's TMC? I think this guy needs to see a Therapist! Stat!

Haha ! I thought you were recommending him a sparring partner to see who can spam more efficiently ? ;) ;) ;)

[EyesSpyU2day]

Free and open discussions are very threatening to degenerates and other supporters of the totalitarian world.
Both totalitarians, who seek the oppression of humanity, and ignorant degenerates, quickly take offence because
they are threatened by the truth & light – they live in the dark and they will die the dark, this is the way of these hapless unfortunates.

[duksta]

Haha ! I thought you were recommending him a sparring partner to see who can spam more efficiently ? ;) ;) ;)

Well... I think a debate between TMC and this clown would be hilariously bad....

[CunningLinguist]

This thread is starting to remind me of the time I goaded the retired lonely narcissist dumb troll to post the same thing 10 times:
http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?42696-1st-Wordsworth-Blake-amp-Keats-then-CrazyMonkey-ChairmanPlough-SirLaughsAlot-Poem&p=510440&viewfull=1#post510440

He really aint too smart, but of course he is a legend in his own mind :):):)

http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?39297-Banned-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again
http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?42455-Psychological-profile-of-the-quot-poet-quot-troll

[EyesSpyU2day]

More examples of inductive reasoning (a method of thinking expounded and advocated by CL and Duksta)

Their ignorant "inductive reasoning" is saying this:
A murderer/terrorist believes in freedom and privacy.
Therefore, all others who hold a comparable view on freedom and privacy are likely murderers and terrorists.
Clearly, this thinking reflects the mindset of degenerate halfwits and simpletons.

Another example of "inductive reasoning."
The rapist/murderer/terrorist had a blue car,
therefore all people with a blue car are likely rapists, murderers, terrorists.

Another example of "inductive reasoning."
Chairman Mao claimed to be a communist, his regime killed 100-150 million Chinese.
Therefore, all people who claim to be communists are likely to be mass genocidal murderers.

Another example of "inductive reasoning."
Hitler had a moustache, all people with a moustache must be like Hitler.

Another example of “inductive reasoning.”
A muslim beheaded a western journalist. Therefore alll muslims want to behead western journalists.

Another example of “inductive reasoning.”
The woman was Asian and she was a prostitute. Therefore all Asian women are prostitutes.

Inductive reasoning is the antithesis of intelligent discourse. It is used by those unable and unwilling to argue their case in open discussion,
because they fear they would lose any such argument. Inductive reasoning is the domain of the simpleton, the deranged, the degenerate,
the totalitarian dictator, the permissive left. Ipso facto, there is no discussion, no debate, no freedom, and no privacy in the 21st century totalitarian world.

[CunningLinguist]

Time for some statistics, did you know the
thread about the troll being banned repeatedly has had (http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?39297-Banned-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again)
7,577 views,
thats alot of people that know about his trolling ways, and he thinks he can still recruit supporters for his views, what a loser, some trolls never learn ... :)

[EyesSpyU2day]

This has been a very interesting discusssion for most people I would say, including myself.
Whoever started this thread should be congratulated, oh it was me – ah, never mind.

However, since CunningLinquist and Ducksta (probably one and the same) descended to corrupt the thread,
the free and open discussion has been somewhat lost. Because he/she doesn’t like the nature of the discussion he/she actively
seeks to disrupt and discredit it – even using absurd inductive reasoning to make an even more absurd point – how embarrassing for him/her, or them.

It would seem that the forum’s impartial observers can safely deduce that he/she is so seduced by the digital age that he/she does not believe in, or want,
meaningful freedom and privacy, or that he/she considers our freedoms and privacies are not being eroded by the ever expanding digital era.

Undoubtedly, either position is a very compliant, even submissive, position to take in the early 21st century.
Clearly, the era of conditioning and media seduction has been very successful in his/her case – no doubt a willing recipient.

[EyesSpyU2day]

Time for some statistics, did you know the
thread about the troll being banned repeatedly has had (http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?39297-Banned-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again)
7,577 views,
thats alot of people that know about his trolling ways, and he thinks he can still recruit supporters for his views, what a loser, some trolls never learn ... :)

Thanks for reminding me, and all impartial observers, just how popular I am. Keep up the good work.

[Atomique]

Why are you criticising inductive logic? Inductive reasoning is useful. You may be surprised to learn that it plays a very important role in science!

If somebody were to place their hand in a fire twice and both times their hand was burnt they could use inductive reasoning to "assume" that fire is always harmful. They could make such an assumption without needing to understand thermadynamic principles!

Oh, and see how I emphasised the word 'assume'? Thats because inductive reasoning deals in matters of probability not fact (ie. the fire burnt my hand twice, if I place it in the fire again it will probably burn me again!)

Are you following me? Let me take this one step further. Inductive reasoning if the first step in every scientific process. Its how hypotheses are formed! These hypotheses are then tested and if they are not disproven they may eventually become a scientific theory.

Did you notice that i used the word 'disproven'? Thats because an hypothesis is never really proven - it is constantly being challenged and tested. A scientific hypothesis that cannot be falsified is not scientific at all! You may think in absolutes but science doesn't!!

In conclusion - you are wrong, wrong, wrong! :-)))


Wishful thinking from the fixated degenerate CunningLinquist - an exponent and advocate of "inductive reasoning."

(note: inductive reasoning - e.g "the Asian woman was a prostitute, therefore all Asian women are likely prostitutes)

[cisco]

More examples of inductive reasoning (a method of thinking expounded and advocated by CL and Duksta)

Their ignorant "inductive reasoning" is saying this:
A murderer/terrorist believes in freedom and privacy.
Therefore, all others who hold a comparable view on freedom and privacy are likely murderers and terrorists.
Clearly, this thinking reflects the mindset of degenerate halfwits and simpletons.

Another example of "inductive reasoning."
The rapist/murderer/terrorist had a blue car,
therefore all people with a blue car are likely rapists, murderers, terrorists.

Another example of "inductive reasoning."
Chairman Mao claimed to be a communist, his regime killed 100-150 million Chinese.
Therefore, all people who claim to be communists are likely to be mass genocidal murderers.

Another example of "inductive reasoning."
Hitler had a moustache, all people with a moustache must be like Hitler.

Another example of “inductive reasoning.”
A muslim beheaded a western journalist. Therefore alll muslims want to behead western journalists.

Another example of “inductive reasoning.”
The woman was Asian and she was a prostitute. Therefore all Asian women are prostitutes.

Inductive reasoning is the antithesis of intelligent discourse. It is used by those unable and unwilling to argue their case in open discussion,
because they fear they would lose any such argument. Inductive reasoning is the domain of the simpleton, the deranged, the degenerate,
the totalitarian dictator, the permissive left. Ipso facto, there is no discussion, no debate, no freedom, and no privacy in the 21st century totalitarian world.

.........?

[EyesSpyU2day]

.........?

I appreciate that English may not be your first language, but clarity in your comment might be useful.
I suspect you require some elaboration on the stupidity of "inductive reasoning." If this is the case,
let me know, I'm a master of elaboration.

[Licker]

Here's an example of deductive reasoning:

Every previous reincarnation (well often multiple schizophrenic personalities at once) of this pseudo self empowered troll has been banned.

I predict that this one will be too :)

[Max Impact]

The troll only survives if you feed it.

[Licker]

The troll only survives if you feed it.

Well, pigs need to fattened before taken to slaughter :)

[duksta]

Here's an example of deductive reasoning:

Every previous reincarnation (well often multiple schizophrenic personalities at once) of this pseudo self empowered troll has been banned.

I predict that this one will be too :)

Actually... this is a (good) example of inductive reasoning, in exactly the same way that the trolls examples aren't.

Another good example is that the sun has risen every morning. Therefore inductively it is safe to assume that the sun will again rise tomorrow. I'd put that at about the same likelihood that this troll will invoke the ban cannon soon.

[EyesSpyU2day]

Here's an example of deductive reasoning:

Every previous reincarnation (well often multiple schizophrenic personalities at once) of this pseudo self empowered troll has been banned.

I predict that this one will be too :)

Are you saying I'm a "deluded, narcissistic, pseudo self-empowered troll?"

Using my powers of deduction, I'm reasonably confident you don't really like me very much.
So, I guess a poem is out of the question.

(note: CL keeps telling me how popular I am, so my empowerment can't be all self-induced and pseudo)

[Licker]

Actually... this is a (good) example of inductive reasoning, in exactly the same way that the trolls examples aren't.

Another good example is that the sun has risen every morning. Therefore inductively it is safe to assume that the sun will again rise tomorrow. I'd put that at about the same likelihood that this troll will invoke the ban cannon soon.

Well, you are right of course.


Deductive reasoning, also deductive logic or logical deduction is the process of reasoning from one or more statements to reach a logically certain conclusion.

But in this particular case I would say the statistical probability of my prediction is exponentially closing one; i.e. 100%, so I can almost promise you that it is a logically certain conclusion. :)

[EyesSpyU2day]

The troll only survives if you feed it.

But the "troll" does seem to initiate some rather interesting discussions, wouldn't you say.

[Max Impact]

But the "troll" does seem to initiate some rather interesting discussions, wouldn't you say.
No no no no . I have to say it four times or the message is too short.

The whole thread is worthless dribble. Hows that's for poetry?

[duksta]

But the "troll" does seem to initiate some rather interesting discussions, wouldn't you say.

Not really - at the first sign of an interesting discussion, it's all straw men, unsupported assertions and personal attacks. Oh, and endless repeating of the same posts to bump out dissenting views.

[CunningLinguist]

Why are you criticising inductive logic? Inductive reasoning is useful. You may be surprised to learn that it plays a very important role in science!

If somebody were to place their hand in a fire twice and both times their hand was burnt they could use inductive reasoning to "assume" that fire is always harmful. They could make such an assumption without needing to understand thermadynamic principles!

Oh, and see how I emphasised the word 'assume'? Thats because inductive reasoning deals in matters of probability not fact (ie. the fire burnt my hand twice, if I place it in the fire again it will probably burn me again!)

Are you following me? Let me take this one step further. Inductive reasoning if the first step in every scientific process. Its how hypotheses are formed! These hypotheses are then tested and if they are not disproven they may eventually become a scientific theory.

Did you notice that i used the word 'disproven'? Thats because an hypothesis is never really proven - it is constantly being challenged and tested. A scientific hypothesis that cannot be falsified is not scientific at all! You may think in absolutes but science doesn't!!

In conclusion - you are wrong, wrong, wrong! :-)))


The troll has no understanding of science, he did a number of soft arts degrees, the closest he came to science, which is a bit of a stretch, is failing an economics course. So he has no understanding of logic or reason, and thus there is no point trying to argue with it.

[CunningLinguist]

Proof by induction in mathematics is a common proof methodology.
The troll likes to sound smart and educated, but this only works on 7 year olds for him.
Here are some of his words:

The whinging slags and their lawyers seeking a payout from Rolf Harris to cover their miserable middle-age,
should be thrown out of court, then charged themselves for wasting police & court time to serve their own
vile purpose of financial betterment. Their would be no proceedings if Rolf was poor, it's just a tacky cash grab.
Shame on the ugly gold-diggers playing the victim card 30/40 years after the "life-changing" events.

Good onya Rolf.
http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?41806-Slags-amp-Lawyers-Seeking-A-Payout-from-Rolf-Harris-to-Cover-their-Miserable-Middle-Age&p=494539&viewfull=1#post494539


This gold-digging lying slag hasn't got an ounce of credibility left, and has shown herself, under oath, for what she is.
Rolf Harris is innocent until proven guilty and he won't be proven guilty now.
http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?41806-Slags-amp-Lawyers-Seeking-A-Payout-from-Rolf-Harris-to-Cover-their-Miserable-Middle-Age&p=496942&viewfull=1#post496942

The troll supports a convicted child sexual molester.

[cisco]

Mmmmmm ......

[cisco]

I appreciate that English may not be your first language, but clarity in your comment might be useful.
I suspect you require some elaboration on the stupidity of "inductive reasoning." If this is the case,
let me know, I'm a master of elaboration.
Master of Elaboration , Inductive , etc Mmmmm .... ? Still .... ? ;)

[EyesSpyU2day]

More examples of inductive reasoning espoused, expounded and advocated by certain degenerate morons. (We know who they are).

He punched the masseuse, he was a punter, therefore all punters will punch the masseuse.

He fucked her up the arse, he was a punter, therefore she lets all punters fuck her up the arse.

She is a deluded narcissist, she is a prostitute, therefore all prostitutes are deluded narcissists.

He paid a $500 tip to the lady, he was is a punter, therefore all punters pay $500 tips to the lady.

She is a degenerate pervert, she is a prostitute, all prostitutes are likely degenerate perverts.

The lady is Asian, she is a prostitute, therefore all Asian women are likely prostitutes.

Chairman Mao was a Communist, he killed 100-150 million Chinese, therefore all communists are likely genocidal murderers.

Inductive reasoning is the antithesis of intelligent discourse. It is used by those unable and unwilling to argue their case in open discussion,
because they fear they will lose any such argument.

Inductive reasoning is the domain of the simpleton, the deranged, the degenerate, the totalitarians, the media/social media, the permissive left.
Ipso facto, there is no intelligent discussion or debate, no freedom, and no privacy in the 21st century totalitarian world.

[EyesSpyU2day]

No no no no . I have to say it four times or the message is too short.

The whole thread is worthless dribble. Hows that's for poetry?

"If you consider the thread as worthless dribble,
You should alight from this space and have a punt and a nibble,
How's this for poetry of a kind,
Better than yours I think you'll find."


Yeah baby....don't mess with the master.

[wilisno]

More examples of inductive reasoning espoused, expounded and advocated by certain degenerate morons. (We know who they are).

He punched the masseuse, he was a punter, therefore all punters will punch the masseuse.

He fucked her up the arse, he was a punter, therefore she lets all punters fuck her up the arse.

She is a deluded narcissist, she is a prostitute, therefore all prostitutes are deluded narcissists.

He paid a $500 tip to the lady, he was is a punter, therefore all punters pay $500 tips to the lady.

She is a degenerate pervert, she is a prostitute, all prostitutes are likely degenerate perverts.

The lady is Asian, she is a prostitute, therefore all Asian women are likely prostitutes.

Chairman Mao was a Communist, he killed 100-150 million Chinese, therefore all communists are likely genocidal murderers.

Inductive reasoning is the antithesis of intelligent discourse. It is used by those unable and unwilling to argue their case in open discussion,
because they fear they will lose any such argument.

Inductive reasoning is the domain of the simpleton, the deranged, the degenerate, the totalitarians, the media/social media, the permissive left.
Ipso facto, there is no intelligent discussion or debate, no freedom, and no privacy in the 21st century totalitarian world.
You've only listed a couple of examples retrieved from this forum, and you even added your own interpretation to their behaviour which is rare among members of this forum. And you're trying to claim it's the norm of the present society. That demonstrate clearly you're a supporter of inductive reasoning, so what are you ranting about ?

You're right in one aspect of your comments though : Ipso facto, there's no intelligent discussion or debate here with the OP !

[EyesSpyU2day]

You've only listed a couple of examples retrieved from this forum, and you even added your own interpretation to their behaviour which is rare among members of this forum. And you're trying to claim it's the norm of the present society. That demonstrate clearly you're a supporter of inductive reasoning, so what are you ranting about ?

You're right in one aspect of your comments though : Ipso facto, there's no intelligent discussion or debate here with the OP !

Long time no see, good to have you back in the light. I genuinely appreciate you making a comment.
However, impartiality is not really your forte, is it. Nevertheless, really good to have you over, so to speak.

[wilisno]

Long time no see, good to have you back in the light. I genuinely appreciate you making a comment.
However, impartiality is not really your forte, is it. Nevertheless, really good to have you over, so to speak.
As I said, just avoid the key point of the debate, that's what you can do !

And long time no see ? That shows how observant you are, I've posted on this thread a few times already ! With this level of situational awareness, how can you claim to have a full understanding of any theory ?

[CunningLinguist]

As I said, just avoid the key point of the debate, that's what you can do !

And long time no see ? That shows how observant you are, I've posted on this thread a few times already ! With this level of situational awareness, how can you claim to have a full understanding of any theory ?

I think that qualifies as another slam dunk, that's three already on the same thread for the troll.
Should we apply the three strikes and your out policy on him ... :)

[cisco]

As I said, just avoid the key point of the debate, that's what you can do !

And long time no see ? That shows how observant you are, I've posted on this thread a few times already ! With this level of situational awareness, how can you claim to have a full understanding of any theory ?

Totally agree bro ;)

[cisco]

He is Master of elaboration , let me check on dictionary whats the meaning of " Master " word , MMMmmmm...? ;)

[duksta]

More examples of inductive reasoning espoused, expounded and advocated by certain degenerate morons. (We know who they are).

He punched the masseuse, he was a punter, therefore all punters will punch the masseuse.

He fucked her up the arse, he was a punter, therefore she lets all punters fuck her up the arse.

She is a deluded narcissist, she is a prostitute, therefore all prostitutes are deluded narcissists.

He paid a $500 tip to the lady, he was is a punter, therefore all punters pay $500 tips to the lady.

She is a degenerate pervert, she is a prostitute, all prostitutes are likely degenerate perverts.

The lady is Asian, she is a prostitute, therefore all Asian women are likely prostitutes.

Chairman Mao was a Communist, he killed 100-150 million Chinese, therefore all communists are likely genocidal murderers.

(All Hasty Generalisations)

Inductive reasoning is the antithesis of intelligent discourse. It is used by those unable and unwilling to argue their case in open discussion,
because they fear they will lose any such argument.

Inductive reasoning is the domain of the simpleton, the deranged, the degenerate, the totalitarians, the media/social media, the permissive left.
(False Premise


Ipso facto, there is no intelligent discussion or debate, no freedom, and no privacy in the 21st century totalitarian world. (Lack of understanding of Causation, no link between premise and conclusion)

These are all examples of the Fallacy of Hasty Generalisation, not of sound inductive reasoning. Followed up by a false premise, and lack of causation

[CunningLinguist]

Slam dunk number 4.
It is sad to see a lightweight getting punch drunk in the ring, but he deserves it ...

[EyesSpyU2day]

It would seem that the forum’s impartial observers can safely deduce some folk are so seduced by the digital age that they do not believe in, or want,
meaningful freedom and privacy, or that they consider our freedoms and privacies are not being eroded by the ever expanding technological/digital era.

Undoubtedly, either position is a very compliant, even submissive, position to take in the pervasive digital era of the early 21st century.
Clearly, the era of conditioning and media seduction has been very successful in their case – no doubt very willing recipients of that bestowed upon them.

[EyesSpyU2day]

These are all examples of the Fallacy of Hasty Generalisation, not of sound inductive reasoning. Followed up by a false premise, and lack of causation

You can call ignorant/agenda-driven thinking whatever you like mon ami, but this is the antinthesis of intelligent discourse,
it is the thinking of simpletons, degenerates, and totalitarians, and is pervasive in media/social media - women are victims,
men are violent, jews are victims, homosexuals are normal, feminism is good for women, atheism is progressive, religion is bad,
only whites are racist - blacks/asians are not, multi-culturalism is beneficial, women are good mothers, men are bad fathers,
if you are media-accused you are guilty until proven innocent, it goes on and on and on.

This is part of the big sell for the totalitarian agenda, to facilitate the oppression of all humanity by conditioning and seducing us to
accept lost freedoms and privacies, ultimately culminating in the introduction of a new police/military state where our every move and
action is known and controlled by proliferating digital technologies.

[duksta]

It would seem that the forum’s impartial observers can safely deduce some folk are so seduced by the digital age that they do not believe in, or want,
meaningful freedom and privacy, or that they consider our freedoms and privacies are not being eroded by the ever expanding technological/digital era.

Undoubtedly, either position is a very compliant, even submissive, position to take in the pervasive digital era of the early 21st century.
Clearly, the era of conditioning and media seduction has been very successful in their case – no doubt very willing recipients of that bestowed upon them.

It would seem that the forum's impartial observers can safely deduce that some folk are so seduced by their own propaganda that they do not believe in, or want, meaningful discourse or discussion, or that they consider that their views are not being eroded by a lack of supporting evidence, reasoned argument and ability to consider even slightly a contrary view.

Undoubtedly, their position is a very compliant, even submissive view to take in the pervasive era of their own narcissistic self-righteousness. Clearly, their own self-propagandising has been very successful in their case - no doubt they were very willing recipients of their own conditioning and self-seduction.

[duksta]

You can call ignorant/agenda-driven thinking whatever you like mon ami, but this is the antinthesis of intelligent discourse,
it is the thinking of simpletons, degenerates, and totalitarians, and is pervasive in media/social media - women are victims,
men are violent, jews are victims, homosexuals are normal, feminism is good for women, atheism is progressive, religion is bad,
only whites are racist - blacks/asians are not, multi-culturalism is beneficial, women are good mothers, men are bad fathers,
if you are media-accused you are guilty until proven innocent, it goes on and on and on.



Finally! Something we agree on! Totally agree that people that use False Premises and Hasty Generalisations are the antithesis of intelligent discourse!

[EyesSpyU2day]

Time for some statistics, did you know the
thread about the troll being banned repeatedly has had (http://forum.aus99.com/showthread.php?39297-Banned-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again-and-again)
7,577 views,
thats alot of people that know about his trolling ways, and he thinks he can still recruit supporters for his views, what a loser, some trolls never learn ... :)

Thanks again for reminding me, and all impartial observers, just how popular I am. Keep up the good work CL & Duksta.

[duksta]

Thanks again for reminding me, and all impartial observers, just how popular I am. Keep up the good work CL & Duksta.

People love watching a train wreck....

[EyesSpyU2day]

It would seem that the forum's impartial observers can safely deduce that some folk are so seduced by their own propaganda that they do not believe in, or want, meaningful discourse or discussion, or that they consider that their views are not being eroded by a lack of supporting evidence, reasoned argument and ability to consider even slightly a contrary view.

Undoubtedly, their position is a very compliant, even submissive view to take in the pervasive era of their own narcissistic self-righteousness. Clearly, their own self-propagandising has been very successful in their case - no doubt they were very willing recipients of their own conditioning and self-seduction.

Are you saying I'm a "deluded, narcissistic, pseudo self-empowered troll?"

Using my powers of deduction, I'm reasonably confident you don't really like me very much.
So, I guess a poem is out of the question.

(note: CL, I mean you, keeps telling me how popular I am, so my empowerment can't be all self-induced and pseudo).

[duksta]

Deluded? Certainly. You invented the word pseudo and then use that to try and invent a contradiction. Straw Man.
Deluded? Certainly. You believe I'm an alter ego of another member. However there is only one person in this conversation who is a self-confessed multiple forum personality. Oh, that's you, in case you missed that.

Narcissistic? Do I really need to cite evidence for that? OK, your obsession with your own popularity...

Troll? Actually, I take that back, you're actually a scarecrow. You are literally a Straw Man, which is why you like using them so often. They feed your narcissism...

[EyesSpyU2day]

Do you believe in, want, and expect meaningful freedom and privacy?

Do you consider our long held freedoms and privacies are being eroded by the ever expanding technological/digital era.

All considered responses are welcome.

Cheers......

[Atomique]

Actually greg, no it doesn't bother me. People just need to be careful not to leave a crumb trail between their online identity and their real life identity

[EyesSpyU2day]

Actually greg, no it doesn't bother me. People just need to be careful not to leave a crumb trail between their online identity and their real life identity

I've had many names in my time, but not the one you have referred to, no matter.

More importantly, are you seriously saying it doesn't bother you to lose your privacy and freedom?

Are you so conditioned and seduced by the digital era, that you are apathetic about the fundamentals of humanity?

[duksta]

Are you so conditioned and seduced by the digital era, that you are apathetic about the fundamentals of humanity?

"the fundamentals of humanity"???? Holy crap dude, please explain one single way that, as a male living in a 1st world country in the 21st century, my "fundamentals of humanity" are repressed in a way that is in any way more significant than they have been in history.

Oh and before you answer, consider the following -

* Before 1902, there was not a single country in the world where, if I were a woman, I could have the right to vote.
* The notion of privacy as a human right is, at best, a late 19th century notion. Please name an era, any era, where this notion has truly existed?
* Please define this rght of "freedom" that you claim is at risk, and what that risk is and its consequences. And please, PLEASE, answer this with something real, not some nonsense rhetoric about living in a totalitarian state. Show me something, anything! that shows an actual limitation of my individual liberty.

[EyesSpyU2day]

"the fundamentals of humanity"???? Holy crap dude, please explain one single way that, as a male living in a 1st world country in the 21st century, my "fundamentals of humanity" are repressed in a way that is in any way more significant than they have been in history.

Oh and before you answer, consider the following -

* Before 1902, there was not a single country in the world where, if I were a woman, I could have the right to vote.
* The notion of privacy as a human right is, at best, a late 19th century notion. Please name an era, any era, where this notion has truly existed?
* Please define this rght of "freedom" that you claim is at risk, and what that risk is and its consequences. And please, PLEASE, answer this with something real, not some nonsense rhetoric about living in a totalitarian state. Show me something, anything! that shows an actual limitation of my individual liberty.

This has already been answered – we are now living in the digital technological era.
Accordingly, the opportunities now available for surveillance are monumentally greater than they have ever been throughout human history.
“Close and detailed observation of any and all individuals and groups, 24/7.” Privacy and freedom are being destroyed.

Further, the opportunties for the dissemination of global misinformation, exploitation advertising, conditioning, etc etc
have never been greater in human history. This is a very toxic mix indeed – surveillance and exploitative advertising & conditioning 24/7 = global oppression.

The totalitarian agenda of the ruling/banking elites is to facilitate the oppression of all humanity by conditioning and seducing us (via media/advertising),
to accept lost freedoms and privacies, ultimately culminating in the introduction of a new police/military state where our every move and action is known
and controlled by all kinds of proliferating digital technologies, including, but not limited to personalised micro-chipping. The technology is already available
to do this, but they are waiting for the conditioning and secduction to be complete, so that it all becomes more acceptable to the populace.

Perhaps a few more years to go for their preferred level of conditioning/seduction to be reached, but maybe not that many.

[duksta]

This has already been answered – we are now living in the digital technological era.
Accordingly, the opportunities now available for surveillance are monumentally greater than they have ever been throughout human history.
“Close and detailed observation of any and all individuals and groups, 24/7.” Privacy and freedom are being destroyed.

Further, the opportunties for the dissemination of global misinformation, exploitation advertising, conditioning, etc etc
have never been greater in human history. This is a very toxic mix indeed – surveillance and exploitative advertising & conditioning 24/7 = global oppression.

The totalitarian agenda of the ruling/banking elites is to facilitate the oppression of all humanity by conditioning and seducing us (via media/advertising),
to accept lost freedoms and privacies, ultimately culminating in the introduction of a new police/military state where our every move and action is known
and controlled by all kinds of proliferating digital technologies, including, but not limited to personalised micro-chipping. The technology is already available
to do this, but they are waiting for the conditioning and secduction to be complete, so that it all becomes more acceptable to the populace.

Perhaps a few more years to go for their preferred level of conditioning/seduction to be reached, but maybe not that many.

So... again... name one single thing that this "oppression" is doing to restrict my liberty. Give me one example of how I'm less "free" now.

And again.... name one period in history where, if I now have this liberty restrained, I would have had that liberty before.

Without an actual example, you are even more guilty of the sort of alleged intellectual laziness that you accuse others of. Without any evidence, I can claim just as easily that we are living in the digital technological era - an era where individuals have an unparalleled access to information and freedom, and the opportunities for free expression and dissemination for ideas are monumentally greater than they have ever been in human history, and that the powers that have historically attempted to restrict privacy and freedom are being destroyed.

[EyesSpyU2day]

So... again... name one single thing that this "oppression" is doing to restrict my liberty. Give me one example of how I'm less "free" now.

And again.... name one period in history where, if I now have this liberty restrained, I would have had that liberty before.

Without an actual example, you are even more guilty of the sort of alleged intellectual laziness that you accuse others of. Without any evidence, I can claim just as easily that we are living in the digital technological era - an era where individuals have an unparalleled access to information and freedom, and the opportunities for free expression and dissemination for ideas are monumentally greater than they have ever been in human history, and that the powers that have historically attempted to restrict privacy and freedom are being destroyed.

Satellite & associated digital technology can film any location on earth with high quality resolution.
CCTV & other associated digital technology means:
You can’t drive your car without being filmed and photographed
You can’t walk down a main street without being filmed/photographed.
You can’t walk around a shopping centre without being filmed/photographed.
All urban public space, both external and internal, is filmed/photographed
Your image can be searched and your identity/address known within minutes.
and your whereabouts can be detected via your smartphone 24/7 - it's a tracking device.

The opportunities now available for surveillance are monumentally greater than they have ever been throughout human history.
“Close and detailed observation of any and all individuals and groups, 24/7.” Thus, privacy and freedom are being destroyed.

Pervasive exploitative advertising & behavioural conditioning promotes and encourages consumption at an unprecedented level.
We eat too much, drink too much, take drugs/medicines too much, buy stuff we don’t need, watch porn too much,
gamble too much, sit down too much, punt too much, etc, etc. The era of consumption and over indulgence is creating a dependency
in the populace, thus conditioning both our thoughts and behaviour.
We are thinking less for ourselves and responding more and more to the demands of exploitative media/advertising.

The opportunties for the dissemination of global misinformation, exploitation advertising, conditioning, etc etc, have never been greater in human history.
Thus, the digital era has provided a very toxic mix indeed – both surveillance & exploitative advertising/conditioning of the populace 24/7.
This is promoting the global oppression of humanity. By thinking less and responding more we are controlled, and our human potential is diminished.

[EyesSpyU2day]

Game set and match to me.

Yeah baby.

[CunningLinguist]

Game set and match to me.

Yeah baby.

I have not been reading the posts since it is on my ignore list, but I was curious to see what got it banned, so I read this one!
It is actually quite funny, given it is banned ...

[AHLUNGOR]

Game set and match to me.



Yeah baby.



That's right , yeah yeah !

Game Over man !

[GetYourKnickersOff]

What the f@ck is going on here? For f@cks sake.

[cato]

And he's back.... LOL