Do you dine at the Y?

[Bobby1234]

I was wondering on peoples thoughts on daty... do you do it on wl or ml?? Are you worried about std ?? And prefer muff or clean??

[kuntous]

I was wondering on peoples thoughts on daty... do you do it on wl or ml?? Are you worried about std ?? And prefer muff or clean??

You'd have to be very horny to go down on a girl that's had 100's if not 1000's of cocks.

[Biglad]

Oh yes, one of my favorite things! (as long as it's clean). Prefer shaved but it's not a biggie. I don't mind giving the A-hole a bit of a lick too! Problem is I have only found one ML who would permit it and she was a private. Never been offered it in a shop but many in these forums SAY they have. It's usually an extra in FS brothels so probably not worth it. Viral STD's are a bit of a worry as they're not curable i.e. Herpes and HPV. Most younger Aussie ladies should have been vaccinated for HPV by now. I don't know what foreign vaccination rates are. HPV can eventually lead to mouth or throat cancer. It's my theory that Michael Douglas got throat cancer for this reason. He must have gone down on many women!

[RottenLittlePunt]

Oh yes, one of my favorite things! (as long as it's clean). Prefer shaved but it's not a biggie. I don't mind giving the A-hole a bit of a lick too! Problem is I have only found one ML who would permit it and she was a private. Never been offered it in a shop but many in these forums SAY they have. It's usually an extra in FS brothels so probably not worth it. Viral STD's are a bit of a worry as they're not curable i.e. Herpes and HPV. Most younger Aussie ladies should have been vaccinated for HPV by now. I don't know what foreign vaccination rates are. HPV can eventually lead to mouth or throat cancer. It's my theory that Michael Douglas got throat cancer for this reason. He must have gone down on many women!

The vaccines don't give protection against all HPV.

A vaccine called Gardasil has been developed that protects against the two high-risk HPV types (types 16 and 18), which cause 70% of cervical cancers in women and 90% of all HPV-related cancers in men. It also protects against two low-risk HPV types (types 6 and 11), which cause 90% of genital warts.

Another vaccine called Cervarix is available, which protects against the same two high-risk HPV types (types 16 and 18). It does not protect against low-risk HPV types which cause genital warts. Some doctors may recommend this vaccine rather than Gardasil.

Gardasil is used in the school-based National HPV Vaccination Program.

[Sticky Date]

The vaccines don't give protection against all HPV.

A vaccine called Gardasil has been developed that protects against the two high-risk HPV types (types 16 and 18), which cause 70% of cervical cancers in women and 90% of all HPV-related cancers in men. It also protects against two low-risk HPV types (types 6 and 11), which cause 90% of genital warts.

Another vaccine called Cervarix is available, which protects against the same two high-risk HPV types (types 16 and 18). It does not protect against low-risk HPV types which cause genital warts. Some doctors may recommend this vaccine rather than Gardasil.

Gardasil is used in the school-based National HPV Vaccination Program.


In the 14th Century the bubonic plague killed about half of all Europeans ..... about 25,000,000 people.

Why did the other 25,000,000 survive the plague? They weren't vaccinated. First vaccines weren't until hundreds of years later.
That is a question that has to be answered.

In USA in 1919 the flu killed about 18,000,000 people.

Why didn't it kill the other 92,000,000 Americans? Most them were not vaccinated.

The only answer that makes sense is that we humans all have a natural and pretty awesome immune system for fighting off all sorts of viruses and bacteria and toxins..... if its functioning as it is designed to.

The millions who survived, lived in the same families, the same villages as the millions who died. Same exposure to the virus. So what was the difference. The survivors had better functioning immune systems. They were healthier.... able to fight off the bug better ..... the white blood cells were able to do their job successfully. Those who died had white blood cells too, but not enough, or functioning not well enough and they lost the battle. They either were lacking in essential nutrients or over-stressed or sick already. They were a relatively defenceless target.

This stupid fucking notion that if you are exposed to a dangerous contagious disease you are bound to get it, UNLESS YOUR VACCINATED.... what a croc of shit. That is a convenient view if you want to make it seem like vaccinations are necessary.... the best thing since sliced bread.... but a supposed inevitability of contracting a contagious disease when unvaccinated is akin to saying that it's inevitable you'll have a car accident, unless you've done an approved course in defensive driving. The evidence strongly points to the value to your safety provided by the defensive driving course, or vaccine, is vastly overshadowed by your multi-layered natural defence system. Your lifestyle, your stress, sleep levels, nutrition and of course your behaviour. That's why plenty of people still have car accidents after doing defensive driving courses and plenty of people still get the very disease e.g. whooping cough, after they have been vaccinated against it. Same goes for smallpox.... heaps of people got it ...and died from it ....after being vaccinated against it.

Given these facts, vaccines, at best, play only a minor role in fighting off infectious diseases. They were never a get out of jail card. And at worst, help put you in disease jail.

Nowhere is this better illustrated than by the inconvenient and forgotten history of smallpox eradication ... Google Leicester smallpox eradication, or watch Dr. Suzanne Humphries on youtube)

I never get colds or flu... at least not for a very long time. I never get the flu vaccine. I have lots of contact with lots of people including children.

If you want to avoid the nasty effects of any virus .... get educated about Nutrition and vitamins..... especially Vitamin C .... which in high enough doses taken intravenously has been shown to boost your natural immune system so that it can take care of any virus if one has gotten hold of you.

Read any book by Dr. Thomas Levy (Curing the Incurable and Primal Panacea) or Dr. Suzanne Humphries (Dissolving Illusions), or the shitloads of other doctors who have far more knowledge than your average doctor, and written books............... or watch them on youtube. Google Dr. Archie Kalokerinos, who was named "Greek Australian of the Century". He worked in aboriginal communities in Northern NSW during his life time career in medicine. See what the vaccines did to these aboriginal kids. Inconvenient history goes unreported by mainstream media as usual.

Suzanne Humphries is possibly the most well informed doctor/scientist/researcher/communicator alive today in the field of immune system, disease and vaccinations. After 25 years in biology and medicine and kidney specialist she has devoted the last part of her life intensively to disease fighting. She resigned from her $350,000 pa medical job and earns now far less spreading her vast knowledge, trying to save lives. Her book "Dissolving Illusions" is testament to her unrivalled historical research. She has gone back to first principles and original documentation and old medical journals reviewing 150 years of disease and vaccination. Incontestable, undeniable forgotten history revealed. She reveals how smallpox was eradicated by better hygiene. Not by vaccines. Google, "Leicester smallpox eradication" and see what occurred to rates of smallpox deaths

a) after huge vaccination program (disease and death rates went up) and then
b) when they stopped smallpox vaccination program (smallpox disease and death rates went down)

Meanwhile, they were busy making the filthy city much much cleaner focusing on improved sanitation and garbage collection, because they figured out that filthy living conditions was the major cause of smallpox epidemic ..... not some boogieman virus
.
Newly industrialised highly populated cities with lots of poor people, without infrastructure we take for granted today, were rife for disease ..... just common sense.

Better Alternatives for dealing with viruses:

No theories are presented here. Only cold hard facts. Beautiful facts if you like to be much safer from disease. Terrifying facts if you make money in orthodox medicine.

Watch this 17 minute segment on youtube from New Zealand 60 minutes program

Living Proof Vitamin C Miracle Cure 60 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTXSTGGRvKY

This guy, NZ dairy farmer Alan Smith was written off by the doctors. No air in his lungs at all. Blacked out completely with massive infection. Kept alive by ventilator. No hope. They decided to turn off his ventilator. 3 days to live. Family forced reluctant doctors to use 50 grams of vitamin c and infection began to clear up within 24 hours. Still alive today years later. This isn't a surprise to anyone who has availed themselves of the evidence of mega-dose vitamin c therapy. It even can prevent death from snake bite. Most things that sound too good to be true are just that. Most.... but not all. Sensible people will be rightly skeptical on this. I hope you don't just believe me. You're a fool if you do. You're also foolish if you dismiss it. If your smart you'll check it out for yourself. Google, "Vitamin C controversy" or "coverup" or "conspiracy", or Nobel Prize winner Linus Pauling. This is one of the few things that sounds too good to be true, but is fully backed up by many awesome scientists / doctors due to their years of clinical experience .... heaps of them. It's just that if this treatment was allowed in hospitals, and used extensively, it would cause a massive reduction in the size of the sickness industry.... and we can't have that.... Too many people would be too healthy. Many medical jobs would be lost. People would live too long. There would be more over population. Medical schools don't teach doctors anything about this treatment... or many other low cost highly effective treatments. There is a financial disincentive to do so..... a structural conflict of interest. Curing people with the best available treatments would cost them a shitload of treatment revenue. Harsh economic reality. Expensive patented treatments are the go .... more effective lower cost alternatives, if they weren't excluded from orthodox medicine cause a financial disaster for doctors, big pharma, and hospital industry. I can't imagine any one in business who'd be happy to see their industry shrink by 10% ... let alone much more. That is the threat just this one vitamin, used properly in mega-doses poses. It is no wonder the medical industry poo poos vitamins ... but expensive dodgy questionable drugs with plenty of known adverse effects ....they are just fine and dandy. Just like the taxi industry is shit scared of UBER. The medical industry is shit scared of megadose Vitamin C. And shit scared of marijuana too for the same reason. It's that simple. Their gravy train monopoly is threatened. But unlike the taxi industry, the medical industry has over 100 years of massive lobbying power in government. Don't expect mega-dose Vitamin C to be used by doctors any time soon. They're not stupid and won't be cutting their own throat. Might have to trade the Merc in for a Camry.....

If this weird and crazy concept called......FUCKING REALITY...... interests you at all...... you're might like any film by Massimo Mazzucco who specialises in historical documentaries put together with shitloads of old archival original footage. He has made about 6 thorough historical documentaries that show what the fuck has been going on.... and how the power of money / influence in media and elsewhere has been used to drown out inconvenient truths and promote profitable myths.

Just like the main reason you do your job is for the money. The main reason vaccines are sold is no different. And just like Bank Johnnies weren't exactly thrilled when ATM's were introduced...... Health workers may feel that way about more effective cheaper health treatments, where people got cured and stayed cured. And there are heaps of these treatments ..... more effective, lower cost, lower risk alternatives for fighting disease ..... but they are not so profitable.... in most cases can not be patented. So they represent a huge threat to the patent medicine business .... big pharma. So the establishment media has become critical in continuing to dominate and giving no oxygen to inconvenient truth. But thanks to the internet !!!!! the truth is gradually getting out.... to anyone who cares to open their eyes to evidence.

What are the chances of getting a grant for research into effective traditional plant based ways indigenous people treated disease? Don't hold your breath. Oh, I forgot.... after several thousand years of documented successful treatment with marijuana we are about to start research into using it as medicine in Australia.... give me a fucking break ....

There are three things that make the world go round

Money (ego and powerlust)
Sex
Love (kindness and helping people)

In society at large ....... govt, business, medicine, etc....... which is the most dominant and trumps others?

[Biglad]

If you want to avoid the nasty effects of any virus .... get educated about Nutrition and vitamins..... especially Vitamin C .... which in high enough doses taken intravenously has been shown to boost your natural immune system so that it can take care of any virus if one has gotten hold of you.


If you really believe you can prevent getting herpes or HPV by having a nutritional diet supplemented with vitamin C then more power to you. I didn't expect my earlier comment to spark an anti-vaccination debate. No one ever wins these arguments so I'm outta here!

[Bobby1234]

So yes to pussy slurping?

[RottenLittlePunt]

If you really believe you can prevent getting herpes or HPV by having a nutritional diet supplemented with vitamin C then more power to you. I didn't expect my earlier comment to spark an anti-vaccination debate. No one ever wins these arguments so I'm outta here!

I say he should put his money where his mouth is. Take a dose of Vit C and then get a blood transfusion from someone with HIV.

Great theory but I doubt you have enough faith in that view to elevate it beyond mouthing off online

[flamejob]

Yes, if it's on offer. I much prefer smooth over hairy, however, nothing like it. I also don't mind rimming her, but as Biglad has pointed out, even fewer will allow that than will allow DATY.

[Sticky Date]

" If God didn't intend for man to eat pussy, then why did he make it look so much like a taco?", Bette Midler

[garfield]

There's always a risk if you try. You need to be selective to reduce the risk.

[dohdoe]

What a stupid fool. The anti vaccination person.

If there's anything that had helped the world heaps is been vaccination.
My grandma thinks these people are fools.
She used to go to school where one week she'd have friends in class and the they'd get sick. Won't be back for a few weeks then hear from the teacher that they died from polio or something just as nasty. As if we want to go back to a world like that.

[gpeck80]

And yet his date is still sticky !


Ewwwwww

[Sticky Date]

What a stupid fool. The anti vaccination person.

"If there's anything that had helped the world heaps is been vaccination"

And you we all know that because powerful media organisations have told us... funny how we don't trust the media, yet we still believe what they tell us.


My grandma thinks these people are fools.
She used to go to school where one week she'd have friends in class and the they'd get sick. Won't be back for a few weeks then hear from the teacher that they died from polio or something just as nasty. As if we want to go back to a world like that.

I'm sure your Grandma is a very nice person, but it takes a lot of evidence to be sure of a cause and effect across a population.

Like your Grandma, I spent many decades believing how effective vaccines are. Although I sound like I'm anti-vaccination now, I'm not actually. I am anti-bullshit lies propaganda, cherry picking of evidence and playing favourites. .... I'm for fairness...try to be like an impartial judge...... pro evidence and science ... and pro-people.

I vaccinated my kids. I vaccinated myself 3 years ago before going to SE Asia. Then I did some thing really radical...... I studied .... I learned. Eg, I learned that smallpox deaths went up not down in Leicester after vaccination program. And they went down not up when the program ended in the 1880's.

I realise you'll probably be ostrich-like to evidence I share, but..... just like how drawing the curtains keeps you in the shade, but it doesn't stop the sun from shining. It just doesn't reach you.

I've just been pointing out the bright sun.... strong evidence... whether you draw the curtains on what I have shared, is entirely up to you. There is no law against being an ostrich.

If you do allow in the light you'll discover that the belief we've all had on polio and smallpox eradication, just like the tooth fairy, is a myth. We've been conditioned to believe that vaccines were responsible for their eradication. It is actually becomes a ludicrous belief, and only one a fool would hold on to, when confronted with the evidence. First the diseases were about 90% reduced prior to the vaccines. Vaccines were Johnny come lately and took the credit. Secondly, how can vaccines be responsible for eradicating a disease when only 10 % of world population were ever vaccinated? How about giving credit where credit is due?

I realise that is very controversial.

Assessing evidence and drawing logical / inevitable conclusions isn't the mark of a fool. Retaining a strong faith in something, while refusing to consider relevant evidence IS.

The really interesting thing about evidence and vaccinations is this.

The "Evidence Based Medicine" mantra we hear so much about from the orthodox medicine, isn't backed up. It is just a mantra. It's like,

" He doth protest too much". The literature is like that of high class snake oil salesman.

We hear the mantra all the time. But you can't find the evidence. Words are cheap. But orthodox medicine does not walk the walk.

I was only alerted to this a couple of years ago by a friend who is a research biologist with a PHD. Her hairy armpit neighbour hippie mum, was mouthing off about how vaccines don't really work. My scientist friend did what any good scientist would do. She went to the journals to find evidence supporting the effectiveness of vaccines to show her wayward hippy friend. But she coudn't find any evidence. Nor can I. As it turns out, nor can the government or the vaccine manufacturers. At least none they are prepared to share. Read everything you can from them.... you'll find heaps of claims. Heaps of motherhood statements. But you won't find anything you can verify. You won't find any studies... not one.... that show how groups of vaccinated people got less disease than groups of unvaccinated people. Google Qld Govt vaccine facts.... It's an evidence free zone.... filled with claims. But you can trust the government ;-). The government would never ever lie.

Pro-vaccination groups live in an evidence vacuum ..... a world of faith. Just like religion.

It turns out, when you dig enough, that there is a very good reason pro-jab groups don't spread evidence. Just like anti-depressants are known to be a risk factor to CAUSE suicide (read the fine print on the label) .... vaccinations INCREASE disease. It's kind of Orwellian. Like the US Department of Defence ought to be call the Dept of Attack. Like Qld Health ought to be called the Qld Sickness. Like Gaming Rooms (no chess, no scrabble) ..and remember that to be a game there must be at least SOME degree of skill ... ought to be called "Rigged Luck Rooms", because the machines are rigged by law to randomly cause bad luck and good luck, which on the whole pays out 87% (or whatever it is), of what is paid in.

[RottenLittlePunt]

Always funny to see people try to use statistics alone to prove their view. Unfortunately all it proves is how little they understand statistics.

You can't validate an assumption based on statistics. Statistics merely give you a reason to ask more questions.

[Sticky Date]

Always funny to see people try to use statistics alone to prove their view. Unfortunately all it proves is how little they understand statistics.

You can't validate an assumption based on statistics. Statistics merely give you a reason to ask more questions.


RLP, couldn't agree more. Beyond statistics there is a story..... people, disease, all sorts of circumstances, politics and vested interests.....
I've gotten the impression you're one of this forums more thinking people. (I'm particularly intrigued by comment that Angies is one of your favourite places.....since I've always left frustrated)

If you spend 5 or 10 minutes on Amazon.com

http://www.amazon.com/Dissolving-Illusions-Disease-Vaccines-Forgotten/dp/1480216895/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1432777937&sr=1-1&keywords=dissolving+illusions

getting an intro to

Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and The Forgotten History

I'd value your thoughts / impressions

Cheers
I'm not a medical doctor or specialist disease / vaccine researcher. All I try to do is act like a fair judge. Look at what opposing sides are saying...and assess who is solid and whose position has holes in it. Polarised positions can not both be right. If you think I've made error in judgement, I'd be happy for you to point out with specific reference.

[flamejob]

In the 14th Century the bubonic plague killed about half of all Europeans ..... about 25,000,000 people.


That escalated quickly. One minute we're banging on about DATY and next minute you're onto Bubonic Plague. I don't know what sort of chicks you go down on, but I've never caught a dose of the Black Death. I can just imagine telling my wife:

Me: 'honey, I don't feel well'.
Mrs: 'Oh why, sweetness and light?'
Me: 'I think I'm coming down with the Bubonic Plaque'.
Mrs: 'Fuck, sweety, how did that happen?'
Me: 'Well, darling, I chowed down on a little Chinese last night and I guess she either didn't have her vax up to date or she has a pet rat'.
Mrs: 'Oh, baby, I hope your feel better soon'.
Me: 'Me too, sugar lumps' .... Thud
Mrs: 'Errr, honey, you still alive?' ... prodding my lifeless body with her toe.

Queue Monty Python: 'Bring out yer dead, Bring out yer dead'.

Me: 'But I'm not dead'
Hammer over the head
Monty Python dudes: 'You are now'.

[Sticky Date]

I have never heard of anyone contracting anything from muff diving.

And speaking of contracting supposedly infectious diseases ....

Basketball legend Magic Johnson while being HIV +ve had unprotected sex with his wife, for years without her ever becoming HIV +ve.

Wimbledon champion Arthur Ashe ... ditto.... wife never became HIV +ve. And these are just 2 of the high profile cases where long term unprotected fucking with HIV cock didn't transmit HIV or AIDS.

(I have edited the above because I had incorrectly believed that Magic and Ashe had male partners ... where as they both had long term female partners who were never became HIV +ve)


Millions of people have not gotten AIDS after shitloads of repeated unprotected sex with HIV +ve partners.

How could that be possible if HIV is so contagious ?

I'll give you a hint. Youtube Nobel Prize Winner Kary Mullis or World leading virologist Dr.Peter Duesberg, or AIDS specialist Dr. Robert Willner who injected himself with HIV +ve blood repeatedly, including on live television. These people, the tops in their fields, as well as plenty of lesser known doctors have figured it out.

They all figured out that AIDS, while being very real, and causes people to be vulnerable to any virus ...... is in no way, linked to HIV ..... except in modern day mythology. AIDS is caused by other factors ..... not a boogie man virus. And medical literature going back way before the 1980's has shitloads of info on this. The biggest factor in causing a fucked immune system is drugs. The second biggest factor is malnutrition. The third is chemotherapy. That's how you get AIDS. Gays in San Fran in the late 70's and early 80's began using poppers in a big way to increase sexual performance. It fucked their immune system.

The myth we've all believed began in an April 23 1984 press conference when Reagon's Health Secretary spoke to the world. It was attended by the very smart but now discredited Robert Gallo. He had figured out how to make a fortune with an HIV test ( which he patented the very next day after the press conference ) ..... by having it linked to the emerging AIDS problem. Before this infamous 1984 press conference there were no peer reviewed scientific journal articles establishing HIV as causing AIDS .... not a single one .... and none since either..... the press and the industry just ran with it on the basis of "probable cause". An industry was born. And Gallo and others made fortunes as you'd expect.

Youtube any of those guys.... they are the top experts in the field.... and they have been blowing the whistle on the HIV hoax for decades. No one has ever discredited any of them. It isn't possible to do so. Try arguing that Mt Everest is in the ocean. These guys positions have only been ignored...... never faulted. On the contrary they have discredited the HIV entrepreneurs , Robert Gallo and his mates. It is just another case of where the loudest voice trumps the truth. It's no different to Saddam's non existent WMDs or Lee Harvey Oswalds "magic bullet". We can't have the truth get in the way of a profitable story.... or the story we need, spoiled by ugly facts. So the media does, what it does best. The major power of the dominant mainstream media is not to provide correct or incorrect information. It is to ignore vital information. So the sheeple public who don't bother to check high quality alternative media, can't help but form an erroneous picture. It's like being blind folded and only being allowed to feel a ladyboy's smooth legs and small perky boobs. You'd never suspect you were getting a blow job from someone with a cock.

If you want the more complete AIDS picture..... they're all on youtube ... along with plenty of other hugely qualified scientists too: Christl Meyer, Rebecca Culshaw, David Rasnick Ph.D .... all painting the same picture. Shitloads of books on amazon. Type in AIDS Hoax fraud deception controversy and you'll find dozens.... all written by immensely qualified medical specialists. Dr. Robert Willner wrote a book called,

Deadly Deception:The Proof that Sex and HIV definitely Do Not Cause AIDS

A year after Robert Willner injected himself on live tv, he very conveniently died of a "heart attack". It's uncanny how often people who seem very healthy, suddenly die, at a time when their message becomes especially threatening to other peoples financial interests.

BTW ..... I've muff dived plenty. Never caught a thing.


"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them"
Galileo Galilei


"The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted"
James Madison 4th President of the United States

[harmony]

I have died from dining at the Y.

So what.

I died and went to heaven.

[drews the man]

First off love dinning at the y especially with a little rimming as well if its all clean down there, yummy

on vaccines if they weren't doing their job as advertised then why is it that in India where they have a mass vacation program for polio, where they go down the alley ways of the slums and enter every house grab every kid they see on in that alley and give them the two drop for the vaccine, then why is their incidents/numbers of polio cases falling?

Food for thought and my two bobs

By the way everyone thank for the info you all have been putting up has given me lots of intel for when i come down to brisvegas for work and play and will put reports up if i think they can value add, negatively or positively, for existing thread, or if no thread has started then start one

Cheers

[CunningLinguist]

Lets all ignore the anti vaccine troll.

[Gentleman]

I have never heard of anyone contracting anything from muff diving.

And speaking of contracting supposedly infectious diseases ....

Basketball legend Magic Johnson while being HIV +ve had unprotected sex with his male partner for years without his partner ever becoming HIV +ve.

Wimbledon champion Arthur Ashe ... ditto.... male partner never got AIDS. And these are just 2 of the high profile cases where repeated unprotected ass fucking with HIV cock didn't transmit HIV or AIDS.

Millions of people have not gotten AIDS after shitloads of repeated unprotected sex with HIV +ve partners.

How could that be possible if HIV is so contagious ?

I'll give you a hint. Youtube Nobel Prize Winner Kary Mullis or World leading virologist Dr.Peter Duesberg, or AIDS specialist Dr. Robert Willner who injected himself with HIV +ve blood repeatedly, including on live television. These people, the tops in their fields, as well as plenty of lesser known doctors have figured it out.

They all figured out that AIDS, while being very real, and causes people to be vulnerable to any virus ...... is in no way, linked to HIV ..... except in modern day mythology. AIDS is caused by other factors ..... not a boogie man virus. And medical literature going back way before the 1980's has shitloads of info on this. The biggest factor in causing a fucked immune system is drugs. The second biggest factor is malnutrition. The third is chemotherapy. That's how you get AIDS. Gays in San Fran in the late 70's and early 80's began using poppers in a big way to increase sexual performance. It fucked their immune system.

The myth we've all believed began in an April 23 1984 press conference when Reagon's Health Secretary spoke to the world. It was attended by the very smart but now discredited Robert Gallo. He had figured out how to make a fortune with an HIV test ( which he patented the very next day after the press conference ) ..... by having it linked to the emerging AIDS problem. Before this infamous 1984 press conference there were no peer reviewed scientific journal articles establishing HIV as causing AIDS .... not a single one .... and none since either..... the press and the industry just ran with it on the basis of "probable cause". An industry was born. And Gallo and others made fortunes as you'd expect.

Youtube any of those guys.... they are the top experts in the field.... and they have been blowing the whistle on the HIV hoax for decades. No one has ever discredited any of them. It isn't possible to do so. Try arguing that Mt Everest is in the ocean. These guys positions have only been ignored...... never faulted. On the contrary they have discredited the HIV entrepreneurs , Robert Gallo and his mates. It is just another case of where the loudest voice trumps the truth. It's no different to Saddam's non existent WMDs or Lee Harvey Oswalds "magic bullet". We can't have the truth get in the way of a profitable story.... or the story we need, spoiled by ugly facts. So the media does, what it does best. The major power of the dominant mainstream media is not to provide correct or incorrect information. It is to ignore vital information. So the sheeple public who don't bother to check high quality alternative media, can't help but form an erroneous picture. It's like being blind folded and only being allowed to feel a ladyboy's smooth legs and small perky boobs. You'd never suspect you were getting a blow job from someone with a cock.

If you want the more complete AIDS picture..... they're all on youtube ... along with plenty of other hugely qualified scientists too: Christl Meyer, Rebecca Culshaw, David Rasnick Ph.D .... all painting the same picture. Shitloads of books on amazon. Type in AIDS Hoax fraud deception controversy and you'll find dozens.... all written by immensely qualified medical specialists. Dr. Robert Willner wrote a book called,

Deadly Deception:The Proof that Sex and HIV definitely Do Not Cause AIDS

A year after Robert Willner injected himself on live tv, he very conveniently died of a "heart attack". It's uncanny how often people who seem very healthy, suddenly die, at a time when their message becomes especially threatening to other peoples financial interests.

BTW ..... I've muff dived plenty. Never caught a thing.


"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them"
Galileo Galilei


"The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted"
James Madison 4th President of the United States

You lack credibility. Magic Johnson is not gay. Arthur Ashe was not gay.

[gitl]

I've DATY a couple of times when punting, both of which I've thought afterward it wasn't such a great idea. They were impulsive and the ML was inviting, but I'd rather be safe then sorry...

[Sticky Date]

Hi Gentleman,

Thank you for pointing out my error, which seems to be an insignificant error to me.

Magic and Arthur were ejaculating repeatedly into long term female partners vaginas , not long term male partners rectums.

(In case it escaped you..... I've just demonstrated science at work.... based upon information of which I was unaware and checking it out independently, I have updated my view to take that evidence into account)

If you have any credibility will do the same i.e. you will examine Kary Mullis, Duesberg, Willner etc.... but I certainly won't be holding my breath. I'd be stunned if you showed any scientific tendencies.

I think the significant fact of this matter is Magic and Ashe's partners never became HIV +ve .... not their partner's gender status.

You obviously believe the gender of partner is critical ......

You must believe, that somehow HIV can tell if it is going into a man or a woman and women don't get HIV and AIDS but men do?

You must believe what no scientist has ever shown and the AIDS Industry never says ..... that somehow women are protected from HIV causing AIDS while men are not.

If you spout of as you did, without addressing the credibility of Kary Mullis, Peter Duesberg, Robert Willner, who are my teachers, then your credibility is completely exposed as just another fool or Big Pharma troll.

Your comment shows a complete absence of something you probably don't like to do..... it's something really weird and probably foreign to you ..... its called......

Examining evidence and thinking.

Gentleman........ any fool can play the man and not the ball..... and most fools do exactly that.

[RottenLittlePunt]

I think the significant fact of this matter is Magic and Ashe's partners never became HIV +ve .... not their partner's gender status.

I think the significant fact would be why that is the case. The fact they have not been infected proves nothing without understanding why. Did their marriages break down and stop having sex? Did they use condoms?


You obviously believe the gender of partner is critical ......

It is important. The anus and the vagina are not identical in their biological structure.
"Studies have suggested that anal exposure to HIV poses 30 times more risk for the receptive partner than vaginal exposure."


Similar to my point about your use of statistics, you need to address the facts more before you jump to your conclusions.

"How could that be possible if HIV is so contagious ?"
"Unlike common diseases like colds, flu, measles or chicken pox, HIV is not highly contagious."

PS I think your "teachers" would be embarrassed that you don't know these things.

[Digger]

I really think this ranter should be ignored. My diagnosis is that he may be suffering tertiary stage syphilis.

[Sticky Date]

"You need to address the facts more before you jump to your conclusions"

RLP, I haven't jumped to a single conclusion. Mullis, Duesberg, Willner, Suzanne Humphries, Thomas Levy, Dual Nobel Prize winner Linus Pauling have all reached conclusions, way before me, based on many years of examining ALL EVIDENCE, not cherry picking....and written huge books. Compelling evidence. I haven't been able to fault them. With regard to issues of health, I happen to agree 100% with these extremely scientific, conscience driven, not money driven, experts.

Contrary beliefs rely upon ignorance of vital evidence presented by these people.

Like I said, most guys getting sucked off by a lady boy are ignorant that their cock sucker has a cock himself.
He is never going to tell you. That might spoil it.

I am struck by how seemingly smart people will argue and argue ..... while refusing to consider vital evidence.

Its like a judge saying, "Right.... I'm going to listen to the prosecution only. The defence can fuck off".
So RLP and Gentleman .... while your entitled to your opinion, if you haven't considered and dealt with both sides.... any opinion is based on substantial ignorance.

Maybe it's like if I told you, your cocksucker had a cock, you don't want to consider it..... because you're enjoying being blown.

[RottenLittlePunt]

"You need to address the facts more before you jump to your conclusions"

RLP, I haven't jumped to a single conclusion. Mullis, Duesberg, Willner, Suzanne Humphries, Thomas Levy, Dual Nobel Prize winner Linus Pauling have all reached conclusions, way before me, based on many years of examining ALL EVIDENCE, not cherry picking....and written huge books. Compelling evidence. I haven't been able to fault them. With regard to issues of health, I happen to agree 100% with these extremely scientific, conscience driven, not money driven, experts.

Contrary beliefs rely upon ignorance of vital evidence presented by these people.

Like I said, most guys getting sucked off by a lady boy are ignorant that their cock sucker has a cock himself.
He is never going to tell you. That might spoil it.

I am struck by how seemingly smart people will argue and argue ..... while refusing to consider vital evidence.

Its like a judge saying, "Right.... I'm going to listen to the prosecution only. The defence can fuck off".
So RLP and Gentleman .... while your entitled to your opinion, if you haven't considered and dealt with both sides.... any opinion is based on substantial ignorance.

Maybe it's like if I told you, your cocksucker had a cock, you don't want to consider it..... because you're enjoying being blown.

You seem to be very good at avoiding issues once you get shown to be ignorant. Playing the man not the ball, as you called it?

I haven't expressed any opinion or argued any point. Merely demonstrated gaping flaws in your posts. You jumped to another conclusion and assumed I have a particular view just because I can see errors in your thought processes.

Reading all the books in the world won't educate you if you don't have the ability to rationalise what you have read.

[Sticky Date]

RLP,

My "flawed thinking process with gaping holes" has drawn me to the precise same conclusions as nobel prize winners who've written compelling books on their area of expertise.

I'll take those flaws any day :-)

You are wanking when you say things like

"The anus and the vagina are not identical in their biological structure.
"Studies have suggested that anal exposure to HIV poses 30 times more risk for the receptive partner than vaginal exposure."

"suggested" lol ... very scientific.... and last time I checked 30 x 0 = 0

I'm not going to add to the wanking.

And it is wanking, regardless of it's accuracy. Because your points do not address the major points made by the experts I cite ...this critical point being, and you with your gaping holes, ignore ......

i.e. HIV, blood transfusions and unprotected sex have never been shown to cause AIDS.... the closest was in the 1984 press conference when the critical words used were,

"probable cause".

When, you address any of the major points made by my teachers, I'll respond then.

Until you address the errors you believe made by these people...... Mullis, Duesberg, Robert Willner, any technical points you make.... you are wanking.

Can I ask an obvious question?

Why do you focus on me and show no interest in the career scientists and medical professionals I refer you to who completely disagree with the vested interests in the industry?

I happen to think that you and I are not particularly important and don't need focus.

The spotlight ought to be on the evidence or lack of, on opposing expert sides.

[Gentleman]

I really think this ranter should be ignored. My diagnosis is that he may be suffering tertiary stage syphilis.

Agreed. He is suffering from something. Probably off his meds too. Perhaps we should advise the health authorities. He could be put back into care.

[Sticky Date]

Agreed. He is suffering from something. Probably off his meds too. Perhaps we should advise the health authorities. He could be put back into care.

Suffering from having open eyes.

Examining evidence.

Not something you share.


Like I said, a few days ago. We live in a nazi state....... where people like Gentleman think its just fine to "put people in care" for thinking ... and not just thinking.... but for sharing the views of nobel prize winners.

[Oneonone]

Back to the original topic!

I have been punting for years and at the cocasian shops in most cases you had to use a dam if you wanted to dine at the Y.

That for me defeats the purpose and it is yuk, so I did not partake in dining at the Y.

Since the Asian shops came on the scene dining at the Y is allowed in most of the $150 shops without a dam and at no extra charge.

One of the things I like most about Asian women is there personal hygene and so I usually go for some daty these days.

Yes I am still selective and pick girls that I know or think are clean and not doing something like anal, anal licking, CIM, bare back etc. Also I like to be first customer of the day again to limit the chance of getting someone elses left overs etc.

I always take my own listerene and use it and I don't daty or kiss if I have any sore or cut in my mouth etc

Except for my favourite I always check for smell etc first with my finger and then nose before I go for full daty.

For me daty is something to be enjoyed by both parties and so be care full and good luck.

I think you have as much chance or close to it of catching something from daty as you do from kissing a girl or letting her perform bbbj on you.

As for the vaccination debate, if there is one there that may do you some good then go for it, vaccinations have saved thousands of lives and yes occasionally someone will be allergic to a vaccine and so it may harm them but this is very rare.

[RottenLittlePunt]

RLP,

My "flawed thinking process with gaping holes" has drawn me to the precise same conclusions as nobel prize winners who've written compelling books on their area of expertise.

I'll take those flaws any day :-)

You are wanking when you say things like

"The anus and the vagina are not identical in their biological structure.
"Studies have suggested that anal exposure to HIV poses 30 times more risk for the receptive partner than vaginal exposure."

"suggested" lol ... very scientific.... and last time I checked 30 x 0 = 0

I'm not going to add to the wanking.

And it is wanking, regardless of it's accuracy. Because your points do not address the major points made by the experts I cite ...this critical point being, and you with your gaping holes, ignore ......

i.e. HIV, blood transfusions and unprotected sex have never been shown to cause AIDS.... the closest was in the 1984 press conference when the critical words used were,

"probable cause".

When, you address any of the major points made by my teachers, I'll respond then.

Until you address the errors you believe made by these people...... Mullis, Duesberg, Robert Willner, any technical points you make.... you are wanking.

Can I ask an obvious question?

Why do you focus on me and show no interest in the career scientists and medical professionals I refer you to who completely disagree with the vested interests in the industry?

I happen to think that you and I are not particularly important and don't need focus.

The spotlight ought to be on the evidence or lack of, on opposing expert sides.

*yawn*

*click*

Apologies Digger.

[Digger]

Please RLP, don't encourage this imbecile any more, please, please.....

[flamejob]

Back to the original topic!

I have been punting for years and at the cocasian shops in most cases you had to use a dam if you wanted to dine at the Y.

That for me defeats the purpose and it is yuk, so I did not partake in dining at the Y.

Since the Asian shops came on the scene dining at the Y is allowed in most of the $150 shops without a dam and at no extra charge.

One of the things I like most about Asian women is there personal hygene and so I usually go for some daty these days.

Yes I am still selective and pick girls that I know or think are clean and not doing something like anal, anal licking, CIM, bare back etc. Also I like to be first customer of the day again to limit the chance of getting someone elses left overs etc.

I always take my own listerene and use it and I don't daty or kiss if I have any sore or cut in my mouth etc

Except for my favourite I always check for smell etc first with my finger and then nose before I go for full daty.

For me daty is something to be enjoyed by both parties and so be care full and good luck.

I think you have as much chance or close to it of catching something from daty as you do from kissing a girl or letting her perform bbbj on you.

As for the vaccination debate, if there is one there that may do you some good then go for it, vaccinations have saved thousands of lives and yes occasionally someone will be allergic to a vaccine and so it may harm them but this is very rare.

Goodness. You've turned it into a science. I tend to be a little more avant garde.

[popeye96]

Sorry to derail the thread, but I just needed to say this. Contrary to what the conspiracy theorist says, you cannot catch AIDS. You are infected with HIV, and the are classified as having developed AIDS once your CD4 count falls to a certain level. You don't die from HIV or AIDS either, but usually from a virus or infection contracted that your body simply cannot fight due to lack of immune system.

I won't say anymore on the matter, just thought a certain someone needed to be educated.

[Maverickwylde]

Only ever gone down on one WL before. This was at legal brothel suffered the worst fuckin cold sores a week later. 3 courses of antibiotics later I vowed never to go there on WL again

[Biglad]

Only ever gone down on one WL before. This was at legal brothel suffered the worst fuckin cold sores a week later. 3 courses of antibiotics later I vowed never to go there on WL again

Blimey! That was bad luck mate. What idiot put you you on antibiotics? Cold-sores are caused by a virus so antibiotics wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference. Anti-viral medication might have helped but these are very expensive and usually reserved for immunocompromised patients. Most viral diseases just need to run their course.

[Oneonone]

Only ever gone down on one WL before. This was at legal brothel suffered the worst fuckin cold sores a week later. 3 courses of antibiotics later I vowed never to go there on WL again

You can get a cold sore from kissing so does that mean you don't kiss?

I have been dining at the Y for years I do try and be selective but so far so good never had a problem.

[harmony]

Someone mentioned a "dental dam" or some such thing
Sounds ghastly
Anyone had to endure its use ?

Sounds like abstinence would be better

[popeye96]

Someone mentioned a "dental dam" or some such thing
Sounds ghastly
Anyone had to endure its use ?

Sounds like abstinence would be better
Yeah. Many years ago a WL I saw used one when I went down on her. It's like licking a latex glove, so would never bother to do it again.

[kuntous]

I'm sure most wls are on the pills to stop them falling pregnant.
So their boyfriends are barebacking them and cream pies the pussy.
Enjoy!

[Oneonone]

Someone mentioned a "dental dam" or some such thing
Sounds ghastly
Anyone had to endure its use ?

Sounds like abstinence would be better

Exactly bro don't bother doing daty if you have to use a dam!

[flamejob]

thankfully I've never been asked to use a damn ... er, dam!

[A44]

Back to the original topic!

I have been punting for years and at the cocasian shops in most cases you had to use a dam if you wanted to dine at the Y.

That for me defeats the purpose and it is yuk, so I did not partake in dining at the Y.

Since the Asian shops came on the scene dining at the Y is allowed in most of the $150 shops without a dam and at no extra charge.

One of the things I like most about Asian women is there personal hygene and so I usually go for some daty these days.

Yes I am still selective and pick girls that I know or think are clean and not doing something like anal, anal licking, CIM, bare back etc. Also I like to be first customer of the day again to limit the chance of getting someone elses left overs etc.

I always take my own listerene and use it and I don't daty or kiss if I have any sore or cut in my mouth etc

Except for my favourite I always check for smell etc first with my finger and then nose before I go for full daty.

For me daty is something to be enjoyed by both parties and so be care full and good luck.

I think you have as much chance or close to it of catching something from daty as you do from kissing a girl or letting her perform bbbj on you.

As for the vaccination debate, if there is one there that may do you some good then go for it, vaccinations have saved thousands of lives and yes occasionally someone will be allergic to a vaccine and so it may harm them but this is very rare.

I follow much the same routine and safe practices that you do, Oneonone.
A session without DATY, BBBJ or DFK would not work for me.
Just like you, I am normally my regular's first customer of the day.
We always shower together and make sure that all our "orifices" are clean.
Even after this, I have no desire to lick her anus. Licking her Pussy and around her bum area is wonderful.
My sessions are normally 2 or 3 hours so we have a several showers and regular gargles with mouthwash.
Last week Coles had Colgate Plax 250ml bottles of mouthwash on special for $1.00.
I bought heaps. I have shared some with the WLs at the shops I visit and I gave lots to my regulars.
A small inexpensive gesture that is appreciated by the Ladies and I get great service in return.
A Win Win situation.

I have been performing DATY, receiving BBBJ and DFK for a number of years without any problems.
I have a Sexual Health check every six months and I have always been clear.

This is my situation and what I do. It is fine for me.
You may have different views or issues, that is OK.

[Oneonone]

Blimey! That was bad luck mate. What idiot put you you on antibiotics? Cold-sores are caused by a virus so antibiotics wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference. Anti-viral medication might have helped but these are very expensive and usually reserved for immunocompromised patients. Most viral diseases just need to run their course.
Spot on bro!

Went down on a beautiful pussy today a young 21 year old what a gem she is

[WhoopsieDoodle]

I never go down on a WL, but always go down on a ML. I think I've convinced myself that a ML is 'safer', despite them not getting any regular health checks or being as innocent as we'd like to believe.

I do like a hairy pussy though, and thankfully this is the case for most of the HABs you see for a massage, less so for the Caucasian ladies. I think a hairy pussy helps to give a girl a unique signature, and for me it adds to the sexual attraction.

[A44]

I never go down on a WL, but always go down on a ML. I think I've convinced myself that a ML is 'safer', despite them not getting any regular health checks or being as innocent as we'd like to believe.

I do like a hairy pussy though, and thankfully this is the case for most of the HABs you see for a massage, less so for the Caucasian ladies. I think a hairy pussy helps to give a girl a unique signature, and for me it adds to the sexual attraction.

I love going down on a WL after we have showered together and I know that her pussy is clean.
My concern with some Massage shops is that they may not have showers for the ladies to clean themselves thoroughly.

Like you, I do not mind a bit of hair down below as long as it is neat and trimmed.
I guess if it is a bit long, you could always use it to floss your teeth while you are down there. Ha Ha.

[garfield]

I never go down on a WL, but always go down on a ML. I think I've convinced myself that a ML is 'safer', despite them not getting any regular health checks or being as innocent as we'd like to believe.

I do like a hairy pussy though, and thankfully this is the case for most of the HABs you see for a massage, less so for the Caucasian ladies. I think a hairy pussy helps to give a girl a unique signature, and for me it adds to the sexual attraction.

Some ML are also WL, so just the same.

[Bobby1234]

Like you, I do not mind a bit of hair down below as long as it is neat and trimmed.
I guess if it is a bit long, you could always use it to floss your teeth while you are down there. Ha Ha.
I cacked myself when i read that

[jimmyp]

Like you, I do not mind a bit of hair down below as long as it is neat and trimmed.
I guess if it is a bit long, you could always use it to floss your teeth while you are down there. Ha Ha.

Why is pubic hair curly?

So it doesn't poke you in the eye!

[Kaylie]

Id love to dine at a number of Posh's girls 'Y's!

[Edpiet]

For those that have been dental damming, do the shops have them available upon request? There are flavoured condoms available, do dams also come flavoured? Or only latex glove flavour?? Lol