How much does the shop get?

[syzygy]

I always wanted to know but have never asked, if the hourly rate for an Asian MILF is $150, how much is the shops cut?

[wilisno]

I always wanted to know but have never asked, if the hourly rate for an Asian MILF is $150, how much is the shops cut?

Want to open a shop ? ;) ;) ;)

[syzygy]

Want to open a shop ? ;) ;) ;)


Naaaaaa. Wanna be the MILF:miao:

Seriously, any idea of split? I am thinking of offering one of my regular girls a 12 hour booking in a hotel and I want to cover what she would have made at work.

[ThomasT2015]

Massage shop is normally 50/50

[Funtwo]

Wow that's pretty good! I used to think it was the extras that they keep so they have to earn it like $20 for just hj or $50 for nude or $xxx for xxx. I wonder how they keep track of this stuff.

[wildoman]

Wow that's pretty good! I used to think it was the extras that they keep so they have to earn it like $20 for just hj or $50 for nude or $xxx for xxx. I wonder how they keep track of this stuff.

dont know if this is tru but asked an asian wl last year and was told that for a 250 job she got 130 and agency got 120. they get to keep extras for themselves

[goodtime]

I asked a WL about this, apparently she had to pay to get a job

[skierman]

Naaaaaa. Wanna be the MILF:miao:

Seriously, any idea of split? I am thinking of offering one of my regular girls a 12 hour booking in a hotel and I want to cover what she would have made at work.

All the $150 hr shops in Sydney girl gets $100 shop gets $50. For $90 half hr girl gets $60 shop gets $30

There are exceptions - lots of the shops give chinese customers $5-$10 discount, not sure who wears this, but I am guessing the shop, not the WL

[Pistols]

Surely the shop would wear the discount

Although it can in turn mean more business for the girls

[Babycat]

For the money clients pay at counter:
30 minutes- girl receives 15$
45 minutes - 20-25$ depending on shops
60 minutes - 25-30$ depending on shops
If they have up to 5 jobs, they have to pay their shops 5-10$
Girls can keep all their extra tips.

[cuteguy]

In reading the above, it appears the MLs don't receive 50% of the fee paid by the customer but in fact less. No wonder they're keen to get a tip!

[AHLUNGOR]

In reading the above, it appears the MLs don't receive 50% of the fee paid by the customer but in fact less. No wonder they're keen to get a tip!


I think in the good old days back in 2012 when the basic massage fees were : 30/30, 45/50, 60/60, the cut was $15/$25/$30 - a fair 50/50 between shops and girls. And as the massage fees slowly went up, the cut started to favour the shops more.

Just my two cents

Cheers

:smile:

[Alan86]

Obviously, an ML is the person to ask!

Babycat has worked at a lot of places, so read her answer!

I've also been meaning to ask this.

I think it varies from shop to shop. I think in some shops, the girls keep the $50 tip , plus get a small fee based on whether it was a half hour booking or one hour. I have personally seen a mamasan hand an ML a $50 note!

In another shop, the girl was complaining to me that despite the fee of $120/ half hour, she only recieved about $30 from it. I think that's why that shop slowly decreased in talent coming through, whist the shop I mentioned above was bursting with girls wanting to join.

But I'm not entirely sure. You must ask an ML herself to clear this (note she may tell you she gets lower so that you may pity her and give her a tip lol)

[MLMatt]

Would be interested to know what the split is.

[Dixie.Normous]

Legally anywhere from 40%-60% of the cost. But most working girls won't do private for the same hourly income as what they would make at the shop, because they then have to think of things like, potential danger/risk, travel costs, cost of having security net/someone on hand to assist, provision of any equipment/condoms/toys etc.
a lot more goes into a private arrangement for the girls, than it would at a brothel so the cost is higher

[Punterman]

For the money clients pay at counter:
30 minutes- girl receives 15$
45 minutes - 20-25$ depending on shops
60 minutes - 25-30$ depending on shops
If they have up to 5 jobs, they have to pay their shops 5-10$
Girls can keep all their extra tips.

I am surprised at how low the girls cut is. This must be for massage shops as the girls I see in FS shops get $100 of the $150 hour fee

[Punterman]

For the money clients pay at counter:
30 minutes- girl receives 15$
45 minutes - 20-25$ depending on shops
60 minutes - 25-30$ depending on shops
If they have up to 5 jobs, they have to pay their shops 5-10$
Girls can keep all their extra tips.

Babycat I am surprised that you get such a small cut. In FS shops that I visit, the girls get $100 of the $150 one hour fee.

[05tangco]

With minimal overheads, damn rnts are good business if in business..

[Alex T Bear]

For the money clients pay at counter:
30 minutes- girl receives 15$
45 minutes - 20-25$ depending on shops
60 minutes - 25-30$ depending on shops
If they have up to 5 jobs, they have to pay their shops 5-10$
Girls can keep all their extra tips.

I have heard similar to what you have. What puzzles me is why the shop grabs more of the fee when you have more than 5 jobs?..
They are already raking in 70% of the fee! Why penalize the poor ML when she attracts me re customers?
Economies of scale means it gets cheaper as the customer base increases, not the other way around.

[alend]

that does seem overly silly. you'd think a successful ML would garner a slightly higher rate to encourage them to stay. (maybe thats just aussie thinking?)

[Sawamura]

Yeah kinda shit to pay $10 to massage a client

[moz]

They are already raking in 70% of the fee! Why penalize the poor ML when she attracts me re customers?
Economies of scale means it gets cheaper as the customer base increases, not the other way around.

I think Tip excluded from babycats fee (money paid at counter only)

So far a usual 40/55/65 with usual tip
30 minutes- Girl 65, Shop 25
45 minutes - Girl 70-75 Shop 30-35
60 minutes - Girl 65-80, Shop 35-40
And if the girl has done 5 jobs so likely pulled $350+ a little more.

And the avg room is probably earning $300+ day/night, more than a 5* hotel room, and definitely not as luxurius

[Andy1178]

I was talking to girl in shop at wollongong & they earn small amount more then Sydney, but Wollongong not as busy as Sydney & Sydney you get way more extras at a good price

[Alex T Bear]

All the $150 hr shops in Sydney girl gets $100 shop gets $50. For $90 half hr girl gets $60 shop gets $30

There are exceptions - lots of the shops give chinese customers $5-$10 discount, not sure who wears this, but I am guessing the shop, not the WL

I'm told that Chinese shops charge the girl a fee when they exceed a certain number of customers for the shift

[flamejob]

I know of some shops that give the girl half, others give fuck all, e.g. $10 out $60 for an hour.

[lynd84]

A private ML would do quite good no, sees half a dozen clients @ $150 minimum per half an hour. Close to $1000 a day right?

[lynd84]

Well after you factor in expenses and hotel etc would still be a good wage really

[SouthernPunter]

i was hoping the girls cut was higher

[jacob1234]

So she potentially makes $30 + tip, tip anywhere from $20 to $50

[276_Gladesville_Massage]

the girl normally keeps all the tips, keep that in mind :-)

[276_Gladesville_Massage]

the girl normally keeps all the tips, keep that in mind :-)

[punterthon]

This makes me feel guilty when I bargain the tip. Poor girl doesn't get much of a cut

[randompunter]

This makes me feel guilty when I bargain the tip. Poor girl doesn't get much of a cut

Yeah I think it depends on the shop though.

[Pibul8383]

Girls get 60% of few and the extras fee

[Pibul8383]

I think from last time when I asked

[porpoiseboy]

I asked one ML and she told me she gets over 50% of the booking fee and of course all of her tip. So, most of the money I pay goes to her which seems pretty fair.

[Shreddedolphin]

I also spoke with a ML and she said 50/50.

[pyrosphere_36]

50/50 sounds fair, the shop provides advertising and room, while the WL does the hard work...

[JT0417]

Not to bad a living can be made from hand shandys ,career change any1?

[DownUnda]

That why now you see like this shady place like 84a that they want to get the whole pay themselves, instead of letting the girls get the tips directly.

Also little do the ML know but non asians rate the shops ask are higher but still get almost the same at the end.

Last time I checked they were asking like 40 more just because it’s not Asian, really sad actually.

[Tcopaspro]

wow it's surprising that the non-asian wls get the same amount even when we pay more for their services.

[sweetpariswong]

Interesting to know...

[GoodFella]

I've paid about 30-50 more for the hour for non-asian. Pretty much the same level of service and in my opinion, wasn't worth it.

[alexander]

Pretty much 50 50, in some shops the girl gets a bit more when its a booking

[winboy]

I heard about 60-40 for massage places, in shops favor. Though if the shop is really nice (big rooms, air-con, with shower, clean towels etc..), I think it is fair enough.

[dt333]

Some places the host charges a room rental fee and WL keeps the total less the room fee.

[cyberastrologer]

Some places the host charges a room rental fee and WL keeps the total less the room fee.

I guess girls would still get a cut from the service money

[SexyBoi]

This thread is very informative! Thanks for sharing guys!

[annintofu]

A massage girl told me she once worked at a shop around Leichhardt or Harberfield that, for a 60min session of $65, gave the girl only $25 and kept $40, because the girl was on a tourist visa and not eligible to work. She didn't like it so switched to a another shop in the city that gave her a fairer split of 35/30 (girl took $35, shop $30)

Seems like some shop owners take advantage of girls without valid visas, but others are more considerate.
My view is that shops take a risk to hire girls without valid visa so they want some compensation in return, but if the girl has good looks and in demand, they are quick to move to earn better rates.

[DanThePuntingMan]

I had a massage at bodyrotic and the girl I had my massage with was a 21 year from Swedan on a WHV and we got catching about her travels and how much she is making working at Bodyrotic. She has been doing it for about 6 months working full time (5 days a week) then she went travelling around Australia and came back to Sydney to top up her funds.

She told me that its a 50/50 split on the massage price charged to customers;

So she told me that she gets the below amounts per client.

1/2 hr: $90
3/4 hr: $115
1 hr: $140

She said she has the option of working 10am-5pm or 5pm-1am but has done heaps of double shifts to max her earnings. She said she gets about 5-6 bookings on average for a single shift and if she works a double she can get anywhere up to 10-12 bookings. Just the massage itself she said she can earn between $800-$1600 a day then all her extra's on top she can earn about an extra $1000-$1500.

[Drbunny28]

I guess this is all tax free?

[lightnin]

I've heard from one of the MLs, the shop only takes a cut out of the initial massage fee/time...tips are all for the ML, not sure if all shops are like that - couldn't really see how the shops would know what extras are being offered inside the room and negotiations that went on etc.

[Ether]

Extras/tips all for the ML and the shop will get most of the hourly charge, e.g. If the shop charges $65 an hour the shop will take about $40.

[askaway12345]

What's the difference in cut between ML and WL?

[iphone]

Massage shop is normally 50/50

not really. some nice clean shop will take more. if 60 mins is $65 then shop will take $35 or even $40. its understandable because shop must provide the equipments, clean the place, etc etc.

yes true. the girls must find a way to get "tips".

[iphone]

What's the difference in cut between ML and WL?

ML = massage lady = in massage shops
WL = working lad = in brothels

[iphone]

How about how much wl get? For example $240 per hour for Ginza girls.

[mister157]

Just got me to thinking ... Is sex work a GST supply?

[iphone]

Just got me to thinking ... Is sex work a GST supply?
how about paying taxes? im talking about legit brothels

[HookaHero]

My understanding is usually most shops take only a small cut for the 'room' or 'booking' fee
somewhere in the ballpark of $30-50/hour of the total bill.

I am aware that in Caucasian joints it's closer to 50% so those $350/hour joints take $175/hour.
It's pretty crazy.

In saying that, there is no golden standard, they can charge what they like and give the girls whatever cut they want, but it's a pretty cut-throat industry if you underpay your girls or try to rip them off, they'll catch on pretty quick and move elsewhere.

[iphone]

, but it's a pretty cut-throat industry if you underpay your girls or try to rip them off, they'll catch on pretty quick and move elsewhere.

but if the shop is busy and has good customers, that girl might have no choice but stay. other shops might be not busy at all

[Sillafest]

I asked in the gong and she said business was very slow.

[iphone]

Deleted. Wrong post found other thread that are more suitable

[Offspring]

How much do you think a shop makes per week. Is it a good business to get into?

[Offspring]

If I bank transfered direct to my ML then she would get it all. But I guess they prefer the cash? How can I ensure that the ML gets most of the money?

[jasonko]

not sure interesting question but

[Soapy]

Ah looking at punting economics from the other end

[Rimboy85]

I always wanted to know but have never asked, if the hourly rate for an Asian MILF is $150, how much is the shops cut?

Depends on how good the MILF is shop should have 30-40% of total

[Cuckhold3000]

Spoke to a few girls at a high end shop in Sydney. They said the shop takes 2/3. But they said the standard of shop and customer is better where they are so they are happy to take it. No sitting around and always busy. Must be good management.

[carym]

for shops with overheads, it looks like their FS prices are lower compared to privates, even though privates you'd think have lower overheads? Just curious as am a noob and was my observation.

[Rimboy85]

who care how much shop gets, as long as we get what we paid

[bigmansam]

So based on this do girls prefer short (30) or long (90) visits. Curious as thinking of going a bit longer than my usual 60.

[Fun Twenteen]

My massage shop takes 60% of the massage fee, but I keep the tips

[mobo]

who care how much shop gets, as long as we get what we paid

Helps to know what they get if you want to tip or if you want to take them somewhere else?

[Ragefrog]

Which is your massage shop?

[Pcnut]

Shop would get around 40%

[Sam678]

I believe It would vary but I remember correctly, one my punts when I visited Melbourne for couple of days. On my visit to studio 54, I paid 165 odd to reception and she gave 100$ to WL. It was a nice punt.

[DirtyLurker]

If I bank transfered direct to my ML then she would get it all. But I guess they prefer the cash? How can I ensure that the ML gets most of the money?

Not sure a bank transfer would be the best way to go

[stupidpunt]

Not sure a bank transfer would be the best way to go

yeah definitely cash preferred

[itoko]

Not sure about Sydney in Canberra a $200-$220 per hour brothel pay the girls about $120-$140 per hour, but if the girl offers extra services then they pocket it all. So in this case the shop takes $60-$80 per hour.

[thesoydancer]

Likewise in Syd. Std massage the girl gets minimum wage, and tips all go to girl.

[PKING2]

The one that I don't quite sure is the agency.
1 month ago,when I was looking arround websites . I found the girl that I had booked the week before in other website, her rate cheaper over there. If the service was good, for sure I will book again from the cheaper one. But the service not good.

The difference about 100$ as extra from the one that I booked. The cheaper one, those extra included to basic service.

[asam46]

I was chatting to a ML today who works in a suburban shop - she only gets paid when she’s with a customer, regardless of her shift length. 1 hour is $70 and she gets $25 of that. She keeps all extras. On a slow day she gets $75. She also has good days, with 5 customers paying for HE.

[Callfellow]

Their yearly pay must be 200k+ if they work full time

[l337dude]

no way! so in a massage/rnt shop the girl keeps all the extra?

I was visiting Le Soleil the other day, they have very low standard rates, 30/$45, 45/$60 (if I remember correctly) and FS extra (if offered) for example is $150, so the ML gets the entire $150? I wonder how much the shop makes, seems very little if that's the case...