The girlfriend ML

[Alan86]

Hey guys,

I was wondering about something. I'm sure some of us have this approach to punting.

Does anyone have just ONE regular girl, who they are crazy about and book each week? I've known of a couple of guys who do this.

What is it like? Do you become very attached to her? she must feel like your 'girlfriend?'

I usually have a few regulars which I circulate through, and see once a month or so. I like the variety. Last year, I ended up with way too many, which got out hand lol.

Let me know. I wouldn't mind trying this way for a while, particularly with an ML I really liked

[Sam88]

Spent too much time lol and trying to stay away for now haha it's not good and I feel like I'm missing out on uncovering some good gems

[Alan86]

I remember one guy writing on this site that he saw one particular ML once a week for 6 hrs at a time for a whole year!

It's unbelievable!

But everyone has their own pattern. On the other hand, there's some punters who never pick the same girl twice!

[aussiegaigin]

I have done this a few times, but purely out of satisfaction with the service provided, compared with previous encounters.

But the novelty wears off after a while, or my circumstances change, and I end up finding a new "best girl ever" to restart the cycle again.

[Alan86]

I have done this a few times, but purely out of satisfaction with the service provided, compared with previous encounters.

But the novelty wears off after a while, or my circumstances change, and I end up finding a new "best girl ever" to restart the cycle again.

Lol!

It's the problem with us punters!

What did they say about manna from heaven?

I think once I did do this, when I found my 'perfect girl'/ hottest girl ever. But she left Australia.

Now, I have found the most incredible women, yet I still wouldn't do this!

But I think I might if I ever really fall for an ML

Anyways, enjoy your night guys!

[Alan86]

I have done this a few times, but purely out of satisfaction with the service provided, compared with previous encounters.

But the novelty wears off after a while, or my circumstances change, and I end up finding a new "best girl ever" to restart the cycle again.

Lol!

It's the problem with us punters!

What did they say about manna from heaven?

I think once I did do this, when I found my 'perfect girl'/ hottest girl ever. But she left Australia.

Now, I have found the most incredible women, yet I still wouldn't do this!

But I think I might if I ever really fall for an ML

Anyways, enjoy your night guys!

[Miyamoto]

I have one regular ml who I try to see if conditions are right, i'm in that area, I have the time and money etc. But I just walk in, I don't book, if I get her well and good, if not, i'll have a bit of variety.

[des888]

Yes this is exactly what I do OP I saw one girl nearly twice a week for six months that ended then followed by another girl who I saw twice weekly for three months now don't see her anymore now I'm on my third regular girl.

[local]

I travel a fair bit...

I have a girl in Tokyo and another in Osaka plus one regular in Hong Kong (each way).
Funny enough is the way I originally met each was thru my work. None of them are ML's or WL's.

In Sydney, I have some "friends" who make themselves available on a regular basis, but I still enjoying a punt :-)

[Alan86]

Yes this is exactly what I do OP I saw one girl nearly twice a week for six months that ended then followed by another girl who I saw twice weekly for three months now don't see her anymore now I'm on my third regular girl.

Friend, please tell me about this!

Imagine that it will be a beautiful experience?

I bet you both feel so comfortable with each other, and I dare I say it, falling for one another?

Does her service get better and better?

Do you think of her often, and buy her gifts etc?

Please give me more details! I'm thinking of doing this if I meet the right girl!

[Starfire]

I'm sorta in this situation right now and I don't necessarily think it's a good thing at all.

You lose out on variety and u grow attachment which in the back of your mind u know it won't last forever and it will eventually end one way or another.

It's funny because with this particular girl I see weekly it's to the point that we sometimes end up chatting our time away instead of actually getting naked at all. Which sure is painful on the wallet haha. I think of her at times too during the week. I guess she's become of those girls I wished I met outside and I think we'd make great friends or if circumstances were right we may have been more....

There's another ML I see at the moment occasionally along with the other weekly meeting and I think we don't have a great close relationship as in not much gfe but she gives very very good part 1 and very awesome part 2 with lots of teasing pse. In this case I'd like to keep it that it's just strictly a business type transaction...get rid of my knots and pleasure me haha this is opposed to the other weekly girl where part 1 is terrible and almost pointless whilst part 2 is more gfe than pse hahaha

[Massage King]

I'm sorta in this situation right now and I don't necessarily think it's a good thing at all.

You lose out on variety and u grow attachment which in the back of your mind u know it won't last forever and it will eventually end one way or another.

It's funny because with this particular girl I see weekly it's to the point that we sometimes end up chatting our time away instead of actually getting naked at all. Which sure is painful on the wallet haha. I think of her at times too during the week. I guess she's become of those girls I wished I met outside and I think we'd make great friends or if circumstances were right we may have been more....

There's another ML I see at the moment occasionally along with the other weekly meeting and I think we don't have a great close relationship as in not much gfe but she gives very very good part 1 and very awesome part 2 with lots of teasing pse. In this case I'd like to keep it that it's just strictly a business type transaction...get rid of my knots and pleasure me haha this is opposed to the other weekly girl where part 1 is terrible and almost pointless whilst part 2 is more gfe than pse hahaha

Wow, she gets paid to chat. Now that's a good job, if you can get it.

[des888]

Brother Alan don't do it

I always end up falling for them but like the brother before me just mentioned it just never works out. It hurts but I punt with the wrong intentions the best bet is just to see different girls all the time. Ofcourse over time it's eventuates to something more as I genuinely respect the girls to the point where we build a pretty close friendship. The first two yes it eventually lead to third base but with my current ML crush I don't think I can crack the home run. I've seen the current one 5x times she's absolutely gorgeous but this one I know will be straight business.

[cuteguy]

Brother Alan don't do it

I always end up falling for them but like the brother before me just mentioned it just never works out. It hurts but I punt with the wrong intentions the best bet is just to see different girls all the time. Ofcourse over time it's eventuates to something more as I genuinely respect the girls to the point where we build a pretty close friendship. The first two yes it eventually lead to third base but with my current ML crush I don't think I can crack the home run. I've seen the current one 5x times she's absolutely gorgeous but this one I know will be straight business.

I tend to agree. Just remember a ML is working and it is in her interest to attract customers and to have work for herself. You're not the only customer who might be trying to woo her with gifts and dinner dates. Our little head might be thinking for our big head when we are in the presence of a naked girl but in the end, someone will get hurt and it will likely be you and not the girl. Therefore, it's best to have some variety and do what some Thai girls do. They have a few guys that they might be interested in with respect to a possible relationship. If one guy drops out of the picture she can turn to another and she doesn't waste precious time looking for another guy. If you wonder where this information came from, it came from a Thai girl!! They know how to play the field while working and my advice is to tread carefully and don't fall head over heels in love with someone who doesn't really love you and will break your heart.

[des888]

Exactly right and Thai girls are known for this and in my situation all the girls have been Thai. I know well enough to see whos genuine and who's not but in that room for the hour rationale is out the window hahaha.

I always punt with a mate and he tells me everytime to mix it up so as to not get attached but I know I'd rather pay knowing the session is going to be good rather than risk wasting money on a dud punt. But yes when you build a rapport with the girl and receive the ultimate GFE it starts to play with your emotions then again it depends on the guy as well some as just as good as the girls in playing the game.Just think it's easy money for the girls they know you're going to treat them right, they enjoy the time as well and get paid for it. I still do believe some out there are truly genuine as i know someone who ended up getting engaged to an ML who he met at a shop.

[CunningLinguist]

Best not to talk too much to MLs and WLs, I try to keep it to: do you do natural french; is CIM ok; how much for anal ...

[Starfire]

I agree with the others. Don't do it! Only exception is if you can be attached whilst in the room with her and totally detached when not in the room with her which I know some brothers can do haha

[ML_Lover]

Yeah, that's my problem - thinking about my current ML at least 10 times/day. This forum isn't helping either!

Must try a different girl soon.

[cuteguy]

Plenty of fish in the sea!

[Sam88]

yeah i'm seeing her every week now :(

[Devilex]

That's a very bold move to engage with a ML

[woods23]

ML = big headache !!!

[dohdoe]

I'm thinking you punters have the wrong mentality.

If you go in and understand that it's not real and just a fantasy for that hour, you'll enjoy it and be alright. Enjoy it and keep it in your memories forever. You both enjoyed it and that's the end of the chapter. There's no 2nd chapter.

Don't think anything else about it. You'll only be hurting yourself.

[woods23]

Easy said than done bro!!!
The GFE in the room is so real your dick take control.
Once you exchanged number or wechat ,line etc...
You're under her spell and is game over for you there are no way out ! :sweat:

[garfield]

Easy said than done bro!!!
The GFE in the room is so real your dick take control.
Once you exchanged number or wechat ,line etc...
You're under her spell and is game over for you there are no way out ! :sweat:

I know who are you thinking, mr woody!!!

[ML_Lover]

The tough decision is:
Do I go to my regular ML where lots of touching and mutual HE is pretty guaranteed, or gamble my money on a cute new girl that's possibly a bust?

A double edged sword indeed...

[Bazzladance69]

had some great times with regulars going to movies, theatre ,restaurants, casino etc overnight stays in hotels it doesn't get better it all about picking the right girl with a great sense of humour lovely sweet nature and its not just about the money they have even shouted me dinner it takes time to build once u get that connection , I also agree with the draw back they do get jealous when you see other girls even though u know they are seeing heaps of customers its about finding the right balance so u can see other girls & still get special treatment from your regular its not for everyone, personaly I enjoy seeing them outside there work place when they are all dressed up . thats me

[aussiegaigin]

The tough decision is:
Do I go to my regular ML where lots of touching and mutual HE is pretty guaranteed, or gamble my money on a cute new girl that's possibly a bust?

A double edged sword indeed...
That's why it is called "punting", but sometimes you win a jackpot.

A couple of weeks ago, I went to one of my regular 2 girl shops. One girl was away, and the other girl was a 45 minute wait. I didn't want to wait, so decided to try another shop down the road. Got a "new girl" who turned out to be on her first day ever as an ML. Massage was so-so, but she knew her way around part 2. Got her very excited with some mutual attention, then she suddenly blurts out "I want you, please fuck me". Luckily, I had a condom in my bag, so how could I refuse an offer like that? No, no money changed hands for that, it was purely the product of her lust.

[cuteguy]

Easy said than done bro!!!
The GFE in the room is so real your dick take control.
Once you exchanged number or wechat ,line etc...
You're under her spell and is game over for you there are no way out ! :sweat:

This is why you need to mix it up. If you stick with the same girl you might fall under her spell and then without knowing it, she will twist you around her little finger and you're gone!

[woods23]

I know who are you thinking, mr woody!!!

Really :) Uncle Garfield shhhhhh please thanks champ hehe.

[Devilex]

had some great times with regulars going to movies, theatre ,restaurants, casino etc overnight stays in hotels it doesn't get better it all about picking the right girl with a great sense of humour lovely sweet nature and its not just about the money they have even shouted me dinner it takes time to build once u get that connection , I also agree with the draw back they do get jealous when you see other girls even though u know they are seeing heaps of customers its about finding the right balance so u can see other girls & still get special treatment from your regular its not for everyone, personaly I enjoy seeing them outside there work place when they are all dressed up . thats me

That's a very ideal situation, would love to be in that seat but got a wife at home

[kezza]

Easy said than done bro!!!
The GFE in the room is so real your dick take control.
Once you exchanged number or wechat ,line etc...
You're under her spell and is game over for you there are no way out ! :sweat:

Which one this week?! Hehe...

[AHLUNGOR]

That's a very ideal situation, would love to be in that seat but got a wife at home

Too easy man, you should take your lovely Mrs out to movies, theatre ,restaurants, casino etc then overnight stays in hotels ! Just like the good old days !

[garfield]

Too easy man, you should take your lovely Mrs out to movies, theatre ,restaurants, casino etc then overnight stays in hotels ! Just like the good old days !

Good advise:-D

[otokosg]

Too easy man, you should take your lovely Mrs out to movies, theatre ,restaurants, casino etc then overnight stays in hotels ! Just like the good old days !

good idea, but, on the other hand, if I were to go thru these romantic activities with the ML for more than 6 months, things could go mechanic, and she might even start to feel like a wife to me; now, another 6months down the road, we might start fighting and seeing each other's weaknesses; keep it up for another 3 months, and we'd probably part ways. I know we all start out with the best intentions and hopes, but in reality, things never go so smoothly forever.

[cuteguy]

good idea, but, on the other hand, if I were to go thru these romantic activities with the ML for more than 6 months, things could go mechanic, and she might even start to feel like a wife to me; now, another 6months down the road, we might start fighting and seeing each other's weaknesses; keep it up for another 3 months, and we'd probably part ways. I know we all start out with the best intentions and hopes, but in reality, things never go so smoothly forever.

She might get pregnant and then you have a serious problem on your hands.......:startle:

[otokosg]

She might get pregnant and then you have a serious problem on your hands.......:startle:

Jeez, that's taking things a little to far...
Btw, has anyone known any ML getting pregnant with a beloved customer intentionally, so he's forced to marry her?

[woods23]

Which one this week?! Hehe...

My niceman, I think im in trouble again lol. All these mls are nothing but trouble.

Im gonna start my own challenge not seeing any ml for 60 days. :surprise:

[cuteguy]

My niceman, I think im in trouble again lol. All these mls are nothing but trouble.

Im gonna start my own challenge not seeing any ml for 60 days. :surprise:

Why in trouble again? :question:

[Sam88]

Easy said than done bro!!!
The GFE in the room is so real your dick take control.
Once you exchanged number or wechat ,line etc...
You're under her spell and is game over for you there are no way out ! :sweat:

fml this is what happened to me too lol

[Sam88]

My niceman, I think im in trouble again lol. All these mls are nothing but trouble.

Im gonna start my own challenge not seeing any ml for 60 days. :surprise:

lol bro... dont do that.... maybe i need to do that as well.... detox session lol

[Starfire]

Hahaha so it keeps changing does it brother woods23 haha at least you can move on from one to another

[Starfire]

But I suppose detox doesn't work for those of u that ended with their numbers? They would just look for u or u would end up messaging them?

[Devilex]

Just dated a ML I saw twice. we hanged out Friday night in the city for dinner followed by the bar. Didn't fuck her at all, finished the night and sent her home. The experience was more rewarding than the actual punting. We had a long kissing session out side of her place which ends such a wonderful GFE night. But I know I am playing fire.

[Sam88]

Yeah trying so hard not to see her every week... Tough lol

[Starfire]

Just dated a ML I saw twice. we hanged out Friday night in the city for dinner followed by the bar. Didn't fuck her at all, finished the night and sent her home. The experience was more rewarding than the actual punting. We had a long kissing session out side of her place which ends such a wonderful GFE night. But I know I am playing fire.

Depends actually whether u are serious and whether she is serious on actually starting a relationship.....or was it an understanding it was just a night our rather than a date

[Starfire]

Yeah trying so hard not to see her every week... Tough lol

Yeah that is hard haha though is this someone u ended up getting their contact details? If u did doesn't it mean the intrigue is a little less?

[Sam88]

not at all when you find out more.... lol...

[woods23]

not at all when you find out more.... lol...

Sam sam...you have digging up too much shit already brother.
I can smell 'trouble' and right now you're in the shit hole hahaha :horror:

[docevil]

Just dated a ML I saw twice. we hanged out Friday night in the city for dinner followed by the bar. Didn't fuck her at all, finished the night and sent her home. The experience was more rewarding than the actual punting. We had a long kissing session out side of her place which ends such a wonderful GFE night. But I know I am playing fire.

Yes, I think you are. Careful not to be "fall head over heels" for her. The again, it might not be a bad things as life is about experiences...good or bad :)

[Sam88]

Sam sam...you have digging up too much shit already brother.
I can smell 'trouble' and right now you're in the shit hole hahaha :horror:

I think so too that's why I'm staying away this week haha... Well trying... Let's see how that goes

[Devilex]

If I don't have a wife at home I could be serious.

[Devilex]

Yes, I think you are. Careful not to be "fall head over heels" for her. The again, it might not be a bad things as life is about experiences...good or bad :)

Can't get over thinking about her. Waiting for her messages every hour but had to hide ot from wife. Kind of hard

[AHLUNGOR]

Can't get over thinking about her. Waiting for her messages every hour but had to hide ot from wife. Kind of hard

Mate, none of my business really but you have a wife and you are waiting for her messages every hour! You are playing with fire buddy!

Seriously

Good luck

[Massage King]

Can't get over thinking about her. Waiting for her messages every hour but had to hide ot from wife. Kind of hard

Just think that for every hour you are waiting for her messages, she is probably pulling 2 cocks. Maybe that will put things into perspective bro, it is just a job to them so don't get too caught up and ruin your life.

[docevil]

Can't get over thinking about her. Waiting for her messages every hour but had to hide ot from wife. Kind of hard

Hey Bro,
I think Bro Lungor and Massage King is on the right track.

I know its kind of exciting waiting for those messages and you are probably feeling more "alive" than you had for ages (assuming you have been married for a while :)

To put it bluntly, its just a fantasy. Its fun to think of all those possible scenarios but in reality you have probably more to lose than gain.

Although, I acknowledge your predicament

[woods23]

Can't get over thinking about her. Waiting for her messages every hour but had to hide ot from wife. Kind of hard

Mine don't even bother to reply lol:burn:

[wilisno]

Mine don't even bother to reply lol:burn:

Because you don't have a hole in one for a long time champ ! ;) ;) ;)

[docevil]

Mine don't even bother to reply lol:burn:

hahahaha.... That's why i never bother with the number, they would just put me on their block list :)

[Starfire]

Mine don't even bother to reply lol:burn:

Wait so like u see this one each week. U exchanged numbers and yet she doesn't reply to ur messages and u still see her???

[Sam88]

tough .. at least mine reply but refused to meet outside of work :(

[woods23]

Because you don't have a hole in one for a long time champ ! ;) ;) ;)

Haha king will, that's depends which holes you're talking about :):)

[woods23]

Wait so like u see this one each week. U exchanged numbers and yet she doesn't reply to ur messages and u still see her???

I can't break out of her spell .
Her pussy juice is inside my body :sweat:
Im doomed...

[docevil]

I can't break out of her spell .
Her pussy juice is inside my body :sweat:
Im doomed...

Yes, you are doomed! There are no cure for pussy juice....:spook:

[simplelife]

Legit been only seeing one girl for the roughly the past 5 months and I would probably only will see her until who knows but you brothers who are in deep really need to check yourself before you wreck yourself.

I've seen some desires work out but most end up life shattering. Seen this way too many times first hand (not personal experience but friends), friendships are fine, nothing more.

[Sam88]

I can't break out of her spell .
Her pussy juice is inside my body :sweat:
Im doomed...

lol so doomed mate.... I haven't yet... can't imagine what will happen to me if I did..

[Starfire]

Legit been only seeing one girl for the roughly the past 5 months and I would probably only will see her until who knows but you brothers who are in deep really need to check yourself before you wreck yourself.

I've seen some desires work out but most end up life shattering. Seen this way too many times first hand (not personal experience but friends), friendships are fine, nothing more.

So you've been seeing this same girl for that long. How do u not get too attached? U probably have some good advice for the brothers here including myself if I were seeing the same person for 5 months!

[simplelife]

So you've been seeing this same girl for that long. How do u not get too attached? U probably have some good advice for the brothers here including myself if I were seeing the same person for 5 months!

Honestly, it would be a lie too say I did not get attached in some sort of way but I would say it's self control and just differentiating needs and wants (needing to eat to live, wanting to have maccas .... sorry couldn't think of anything else)

I love the girl such as her personality, appearance, tbh she is my ideal girl but if I can find her here, there's another one out there.

Just remember brothers this is a punt. All punts start and end as a transaction meaning even if it does become genuine you had to pay for it, meaning you are still cash flow. For however long I stay with her be it 2 hours, 3hours etc during those hours she is a my queen and I am her king after that I don't mean anything to her.

In saying that I have become friends with her outside of work, meeting for coffee and lunches but when we meet we are two different people. Hope that kind of helps brothers but everyone is different.

P.S. by saying "self-control" I am not indicating you do not have self-control, this is purely my method and thoughts so please do not take offense.

[Devilex]

Thanks brother Alung Gor and other people's advice...I know I shouldn't do it but the temptation is huge. Tonight I met her again, we went out to Wollies doing grocery shopping and had Korean BBQ dinner, following by a coffee at Oliver brown. Good times and good chat,just like normal dating couple.

[caff3ry]

I cannot speak on behalf of the married but for those of you that are not. I think all of us desire to find this same sort of companionship we have with our ML's especially our regulars in our normal relationships outside of punting. Being new to punting I must say it is a thrill and every new punt is a new experience (hopefully a great one). That being said though given the opportunity would I wish I had met my favorite ML's outside this environment? Absolutely however would they have reciprocated as well to us had we met them outside? Who knows. At the end of day sometimes when we get attached whether we realize it or not it is a mutual transaction between two people. I'm not saying in anyway that building a relationship with one isn't possible but if we do, we all know what the trade offs are. Most of us who adore our regulars probably don't think too much of what she is like outside of your session, but imagine what that would be like if both parties were in a relationship. If she wanted to continue working in this industry would we able to trust in them and respect the privacy of their work life while also not constantly worrying about whether she truly was exclusive to us or worse yet leaving us for another punter she ended up fancying?

At the end of the day lets say it did work out would you be able to give up punting now you finally have your prize? Or would your appetite just grow stronger for others knowing that you'll have someone to fall back on if it is a bad punt.

Gentleman if this is such the road you desire then I wish you every bit of luck I could possibly give you and I hope that you will find success in going from ML to GF.

Caff3ry out

P.S. Even I wouldn't be able to answer right now whether I could drop all punting if I managed to find the ML style GF

[docevil]

Punting is like a form of "counterfeit intimacy" but like all physical intimacy, there's always an emotional element to it.

When does it cross over to genuine emotional bond? No body really knows and i think it will be different for different people depending on stages/ circumstances of their lives.

I think some people do genuinely "fall in love" with ML/WL but like I said elsewhere, it can be a good or bad experience depending on your circumstances.

Life....its all about experiences...

[docevil]

Thanks brother Alung Gor and other people's advice...I know I shouldn't do it but the temptation is huge. Tonight I met her again, we went out to Wollies doing grocery shopping and had Korean BBQ dinner, following by a coffee at Oliver brown. Good times and good chat,just like normal dating couple.

I feel for you Bro,

Its must be hard keeping it away from the wife....

[Alan86]

In response to some of the comments here regarding falling for and dating MLs, Here's how I see it.

Punting is a 'beautiful lie' that we pay for. We're not just paying for physical intimacy, but for emotional intimacy

The girl may pretend to really like you, and may pretend to be having an orgasm. Sometimes however, it may in Fact be real - Was it real or fake? It's one of the mysteries of punting.

While you're in a session, and even after it, believe that it is real, because you're paying for it, so enjoy it.

Now, here's what I think. if you want to get serious or 'get real' with a ML/WL, to stop the fantasy, and start a reality with this girl, then you may have to confront reality. Ask her out, and DO NOT continue to see her inside the shop. This may be very hard to do, but I think it's the only way. This makes her have only one real option with you - to start a genuine relationship with you where money is not involved. If she wants it, then she will do so.

I've always believed that punting is for fantasy though. If you want a real relationship, best stick to regular girls. It's more honest from the get go.

[caff3ry]

In response to some of the comments here regarding falling for and dating MLs, Here's how I see it.

Punting is a 'beautiful lie' that we pay for. We're not just paying for physical intimacy, but for emotional intimacy

The girl may pretend to really like you, and may pretend to be having an orgasm. Sometimes however, it may in Fact be real - Was it real or fake? It's one of the mysteries of punting.

While you're in a session, and even after it, believe that it is real, because you're paying for it, so enjoy it.

Now, here's what I think. if you want to get serious or 'get real' with a ML/WL, to stop the fantasy, and start a reality with this girl, then you may have to confront reality. Ask her out, and DO NOT continue to see her inside the shop. This may be very hard to do, but I think it's the only way. This makes her have only one real option with you - to start a genuine relationship with you where money is not involved. If she wants it, then she will do so.

I've always believed that punting is for fantasy though. If you want a real relationship, best stick to regular girls. It's more honest from the get go.

Interesting take on the subject. I wonder if during that tim frame you asked her out and saw someone else in the shop instead as a filler how would she feel. Nothing like a little jealousy to tip things in your favour perhaps?

[woods23]

Thanks brother Alung Gor and other people's advice...I know I shouldn't do it but the temptation is huge. Tonight I met her again, we went out to Wollies doing grocery shopping and had Korean BBQ dinner, following by a coffee at Oliver brown. Good times and good chat,just like normal dating couple.

I hope you didn't pay her grocery shopping :surprise:
Condom that's fine !

But seriously ...you're married lol. Family come first !!!
GET A HOTEL AND STAY THERE !!!
Come on !!!

To all the married guys out there. Please be sensible.

Play safe, play longer.

[AHLUNGOR]

In response to some of the comments here regarding falling for and dating MLs, Here's how I see it.

Punting is a 'beautiful lie' that we pay for. We're not just paying for physical intimacy, but for emotional intimacy

The girl may pretend to really like you, and may pretend to be having an orgasm. Sometimes however, it may in Fact be real - Was it real or fake? It's one of the mysteries of punting.

While you're in a session, and even after it, believe that it is real, because you're paying for it, so enjoy it.

Now, here's what I think. if you want to get serious or 'get real' with a ML/WL, to stop the fantasy, and start a reality with this girl, then you may have to confront reality. Ask her out, and DO NOT continue to see her inside the shop. This may be very hard to do, but I think it's the only way. This makes her have only one real option with you - to start a genuine relationship with you where money is not involved. If she wants it, then she will do so.

I've always believed that punting is for fantasy though. If you want a real relationship, best stick to regular girls. It's more honest from the get go.

That's all ok but by the time you get emotionally involved with the girl and seeing each other outside the shop as regular dating couple with no money involved and some free sex occasionally but one thing will always get in the way - if she continuous to work - can you handling it that your girl friend is still doing what attracted you in the first place, giving sexual services to strangers and that all illusive GFE ??

That is of course, if you can block off certain feelings and treated her as a friend / fuck buddy only, there may be you can live with her profession ! Most people can't and it all eventually ended in pear shape and broken hearts !

Just my two cents

Cheers

[Starfire]

That's all ok but by the time you get emotionally involved with the girl and seeing each other outside the shop as regular dating couple with no money involved and some free sex occasionally but one thing will always get in the way - if she continuous to work - can you handling it that your girl friend is still doing what attracted you in the first place, giving sexual services to strangers and that all illusive GFE ??

That is of course, if you can block off certain feelings and treated her as a friend / fuck buddy only, there may be you can live with her profession ! Most people can't and it all eventually ended in pear shape and broken hearts !

Just my two cents

Cheers

I totally agree with that.

The issue I think is that would I have met this girl if I haven't met her as a ML and I think I would never have since there's no mutual friends nor mutual hang out places etc that it would have happened.

However I think that if things did progress... you're right I wouldn't want her to continue in this profession. However if she meant that much to me and it gets to the point of seriousness I would work out a way for her to stop doing it.

[caff3ry]

I totally agree with that.

The issue I think is that would I have met this girl if I haven't met her as a ML and I think I would never have since there's no mutual friends nor mutual hang out places etc that it would have happened.

However I think that if things did progress... you're right I wouldn't want her to continue in this profession. However if she meant that much to me and it gets to the point of seriousness I would work out a way for her to stop doing it.

My prayers to you brother play safe, stay safe but above all play with conviction because consequences will arise for better or worse.

[Alan86]

That's all ok but by the time you get emotionally involved with the girl and seeing each other outside the shop as regular dating couple with no money involved and some free sex occasionally but one thing will always get in the way - if she continuous to work - can you handling it that your girl friend is still doing what attracted you in the first place, giving sexual services to strangers and that all illusive GFE ??

That is of course, if you can block off certain feelings and treated her as a friend / fuck buddy only, there may be you can live with her profession ! Most people can't and it all eventually ended in pear shape and broken hearts !

Just my two cents

Cheers

Agreed. If I started a real relationship with a ML, I'd be firm in asking her to quit her job. Otherwise, it's an 'open relationship ' where I could also see other people and MLs.

I don't like open relationships as they create too much jealousy.

Unless you're not that into her, and you just want to see her outside for some freebies.

[Starfire]

Agreed. If I started a real relationship with a ML, I'd be firm in asking her to quit her job. Otherwise, it's an 'open relationship ' where I could also see other people and MLs.

I don't like open relationships as they create too much jealousy.

Unless you're not that into her, and you just want to see her outside for some freebies.

To caff3ry: thanks for that brother! I am not in a position at the moment to pursue it though I am imagining how it will be like if I did and I think I could be successful at it haha.

Alan86: mmm u would be firm in telling her to stop but then u would need to work out why she is working in the first place and somehow provide the means for her to stop. Some reasons are easier than others!

[hillybilly]

When I first started punting I was young naive and inexperienced. Wasn't making much $$$ back then either so I kept going back to the 1 girl I had the best experience with or found the hottest

But MLs come and go all the time and all of a sudden your regular is gone thru no fault of your own and you have to start from scratch again

So over time I began to build a list of regulars to avoid disappointment but it took time and $

[Alan86]

To caff3ry: thanks for that brother! I am not in a position at the moment to pursue it though I am imagining how it will be like if I did and I think I could be successful at it haha.

Alan86: mmm u would be firm in telling her to stop but then u would need to work out why she is working in the first place and somehow provide the means for her to stop. Some reasons are easier than others!

True Starfire I know it's hard to quit for them, But there's no way I'm going to let me 'serious gf 'be tapped by 10 random guys a day. She'd have to make this choice. Call me selfish, but that's just how I feel.

[Starfire]

When I first started punting I was young naive and inexperienced. Wasn't making much $$$ back then either so I kept going back to the 1 girl I had the best experience with or found the hottest

But MLs come and go all the time and all of a sudden your regular is gone thru no fault of your own and you have to start from scratch again

So over time I began to build a list of regulars to avoid disappointment but it took time and $

Mmm that's right in regards to them coming and going. And it's hard at first when u realise that's how it works.

[Starfire]

True Starfire I know it's hard to quit for them, But there's no way I'm going to let me 'serious gf 'be tapped by 10 random guys a day. She'd have to make this choice. Call me selfish, but that's just how I feel.

Mmm don't get me wrong I totally agree with u there! :) but the issue is working out how we would fund the reason as in is it lifestyle so they are doing this or they like the job or sick family member that needs money, debts to pay or is it for schooling? No girl does it for the sake of doing it usually...

[wilisno]

Alan86: mmm u would be firm in telling her to stop but then u would need to work out why she is working in the first place and somehow provide the means for her to stop. Some reasons are easier than others!

Well said ! A girl told me her family lost everything in the Hunan great flood in China a couple of years ago, she's trying to help rebuild their family home, so she's not gonna stop in a hurry !

[Alan86]

Mmm don't get me wrong I totally agree with u there! :) but the issue is working out how we would fund the reason as in is it lifestyle so they are doing this or they like the job or sick family member that needs money, debts to pay or is it for schooling? No girl does it for the sake of doing it usually...

True, there is a lot to think about here.

If it's really serious like a sick family member, Id probably offer to put up money. If it's life or death, and I can't fund it, I'd have to concede to her working.

However, there are some girls who work just to fund their rich lifestyle. An ML once told me she wanted to work so she could buy an IPad! Her words not mine!

[Starfire]

True, there is a lot to think about here.

If it's really serious like a sick family member, Id probably offer to put up money. If it's life or death, and I can't fund it, I'd have to concede to her working.

However, there are some girls who work just to fund their rich lifestyle. An ML once told me she wanted to work so she could buy an IPad! Her words not mine!

I think if I was considering a ML and the reason why she is doing it is for an ipad I have to rethink whether I'd really wanna date her or not hahahaha

[Starfire]

Well said ! A girl told me her family lost everything in the Hunan great flood in China a couple of years ago, she's trying to help rebuild their family home, so she's not gonna stop in a hurry !

Thanks! Yeah in those sort of cases prob have to just move on or concede to her working unless rich enough. I know I'm not! Haha

[Alan86]

I think if I was considering a ML and the reason why she is doing it is for an ipad I have to rethink whether I'd really wanna date her or not hahahaha

I wish I worked at an Apple Store!

[Sam88]

Mmm don't get me wrong I totally agree with u there! :) but the issue is working out how we would fund the reason as in is it lifestyle so they are doing this or they like the job or sick family member that needs money, debts to pay or is it for schooling? No girl does it for the sake of doing it usually...

You'll be surprised.. the one I'm seeing tells me she's just bored... I was like "are you for real?" . She said she doesn't care about the money wtf

[Alan86]

You'll be surprised.. the one I'm seeing tells me she's just bored... I was like "are you for real?" . She said she doesn't care about the money wtf

LOL!

There are all sorts of reasons for it.

There are some girls who genuinely do it for the enjoyment. Of course, they make great workers!

There's a lot of girls I knew at College - you know the girls who slept with everyone? They might aswell become WLs and start getting paid for it!

[Sam88]

yeah met a WL who is like I love sex and now i'm getting paid for it. She's smart as well, she doesn't work often as she doesn't want it to be like a job so she'll work when she feels horny. Love it lol.

[CunningLinguist]

I refrain from asking WLs why they do it since I think it would be a downer on the session or any subsequent sessions, best to stick to the business at hand :)
If they raise the subject I don't mind talking about it, but thoughtfully.

[caff3ry]

I wish I worked at an Apple Store!

All I can say to that is it has its benefits ;) someone PM me this girls details! I'll provide her an IPhone iPad MacBook the works.
Back when I was into PUA this was what I used to do. When I had HOT young Chinese girls asking me if possible for a discount I told them "why should I give you a discount" (negotiate from the high ground) legit one response I got was because "I'm a nice girl" so I said "alright nice girl say I give you a discount what are you gonna do for me?"
(Dangle the bait in front of them) I had 99% conversion rate in these always ended up getting wechat + her shouting me dinner. Never got anything else above that though :( best resteraunt one girl took me to was yayoi garden and paid the whole bill. The good Ol days haha. These days I don't bother as much.

[CunningLinguist]

All I can say to that is it has its benefits ;) someone PM me this girls details! I'll provide her an IPhone iPad MacBook the works.
Back when I was into PUA this was what I used to do. When I had HOT young Chinese girls asking me if possible for a discount I told them "why should I give you a discount" (negotiate from the high ground) legit one response I got was because "I'm a nice girl" so I said "alright nice girl say I give you a discount what are you gonna do for me?"
(Dangle the bait in front of them) I had 99% conversion rate in these always ended up getting wechat + her shouting me dinner. Never got anything else above that though :( best resteraunt one girl took me to was yayoi garden and paid the whole bill. The good Ol days haha. These days I don't bother as much.

Was that tactic in the Steve Jobs training manual ... :)

[caff3ry]

Was that tactic in the Steve Jobs training manual ... :)
No I just liked being a douche haha

[Devilex]

In response to some of the comments here regarding falling for and dating MLs, Here's how I see it.

Punting is a 'beautiful lie' that we pay for. We're not just paying for physical intimacy, but for emotional intimacy

The girl may pretend to really like you, and may pretend to be having an orgasm. Sometimes however, it may in Fact be real - Was it real or fake? It's one of the mysteries of punting.

While you're in a session, and even after it, believe that it is real, because you're paying for it, so enjoy it.

Now, here's what I think. if you want to get serious or 'get real' with a ML/WL, to stop the fantasy, and start a reality with this girl, then you may have to confront reality. Ask her out, and DO NOT continue to see her inside the shop. This may be very hard to do, but I think it's the only way. This makes her have only one real option with you - to start a genuine relationship with you where money is not involved. If she wants it, then she will do so.

I've always believed that punting is for fantasy though. If you want a real relationship, best stick to regular girls. It's more honest from the get go.

Funny you should say that.
My ML asked me NOT to see her in the shop. She wants to spend time with me outside! Now it's getting harder to tell right? Or is she faking the GFE really well ;-)

[Devilex]

I hope you didn't pay her grocery shopping :surprise:
Condom that's fine !

But seriously ...you're married lol. Family come first !!!
GET A HOTEL AND STAY THERE !!!
Come on !!!

To all the married guys out there. Please be sensible.

Play safe, play longer.
We didn't have a session so we didn't buy condom ;-)
No I didn't pay for grocery. But I paid for dinner, which was alright - $31 for two

[Alan86]

All I can say to that is it has its benefits ;) someone PM me this girls details! I'll provide her an IPhone iPad MacBook the works.
Back when I was into PUA this was what I used to do. When I had HOT young Chinese girls asking me if possible for a discount I told them "why should I give you a discount" (negotiate from the high ground) legit one response I got was because "I'm a nice girl" so I said "alright nice girl say I give you a discount what are you gonna do for me?"
(Dangle the bait in front of them) I had 99% conversion rate in these always ended up getting wechat + her shouting me dinner. Never got anything else above that though :( best resteraunt one girl took me to was yayoi garden and paid the whole bill. The good Ol days haha. These days I don't bother as much.

Omg I've been talking about Pua lately, and how much better punting is! I forget the thread.

[Alan86]

Funny you should say that.
My ML asked me NOT to see her in the shop. She wants to spend time with me outside! Now it's getting harder to tell right? Or is she faking the GFE really well ;-)

Unless she's faking it so well because she really wants to take you to the cleaners - Eg jewellery, a car or the big one - green card! Just watch out for any money requests etc.

Lol, it seems genuine. Good luck!

[AHLUNGOR]

What is a PUA ?

[Alan86]

What is a PUA ?

Ok, get ready to blow your mind.

There is a community of guys (kind of an alternate community to punters) who specialise in picking up random women.

They have leaders and teachers who have written books and charge thousands of dollars for personal coaching.

Type in 'Neil Strauss'- the game, or 'David Deangelo'. And go from there.

[Sam88]

seriously..... paying money to learn how to pick up girls... :sweat:

[AHLUNGOR]

Ok, get ready to blow your mind.

There is a community of guys (kind of an alternate community to punters) who specialise in picking up random women.

They have leaders and teachers who have written books and charge thousands of dollars for personal coaching.

Type in 'Neil Strauss'- the game, or 'David Deangelo'. And go from there.

Ok so it was Pick Up Artist !


Nothing to be ashamed of when a married middle age guy has no idea !

[Alan86]

seriously..... paying money to learn how to pick up girls... :sweat:

I know. And you spend the first couple of years just getting rejected mostly, before you get the skills.

One of their teachers, David X, says that prostitutes are cheaper in the long run, and won't drain you emotionally. As he says, with dating you're taking out girls and often not getting laid - are you paying to get frustrated?

[caff3ry]

I know. And you spend the first couple of years just getting rejected mostly, before you get the skills.

One of their teachers, David X, says that prostitutes are cheaper in the long run, and won't drain you emotionally. As he says, with dating you're taking out girls and often not getting laid - are you paying to get frustrated?

Agree I used to engage in PUA when I thought it was fun. (Most of the time picking up at work selling Apple devices to hot international students etc read previous post) there is something satisfying about picking up a random girl you feel is attractive. I think it depends on your motive. For me PUA was more about making friends (crazy right) if given the opportunity to bed would I? Probably. But it wasn't my number 1 agenda. These girls invited me out to dinner and we still keep in touch to this day while I've never bedded any one of them it didn't really bother me. PUA is all about what you expect out of it, you'll only get frustrated and impatient if what you want is sex. But that's just me probably should start a new thread if we want to discuss this further

[Alan86]

Agree I used to engage in PUA when I thought it was fun. (Most of the time picking up at work selling Apple devices to hot international students etc read previous post) there is something satisfying about picking up a random girl you feel is attractive. I think it depends on your motive. For me PUA was more about making friends (crazy right) if given the opportunity to bed would I? Probably. But it wasn't my number 1 agenda. These girls invited me out to dinner and we still keep in touch to this day while I've never bedded any one of them it didn't really bother me. PUA is all about what you expect out of it, you'll only get frustrated and impatient if what you want is sex. But that's just me probably should start a new thread if we want to discuss this further

Omg I was totally joking about working in an Apple Store! Red the MLs comment. I had no idea you actually worked in one!

That's really interesting caffrey. It seems like you just wanted friendship which is NOT what Pua is about! Most of the guys who come in there are sick and tired of getting friend zoned and want to get laid!

But yes, I would love to meet with girls including MLs and go out even if sex wasn't involved. I consider them as friends.

[caff3ry]

Omg I was totally joking about working in an Apple Store! Red the MLs comment. I had no idea you actually worked in one!

That's really interesting caffrey. It seems like you just wanted friendship which is NOT what Pua is about! Most of the guys who come in there are sick and tired of getting friend zoned and want to get laid!

But yes, I would love to meet with girls including MLs and go out even if sex wasn't involved. I consider them as friends.
Lol don't get me wrong one of the reasons I started punting was because of the annoying thing we call friend zone. Again don't get me wrong I was happy to have these girls as friends but one of them I really liked and spent quite a lot of time with her. Naturally your desire to take the friendship to the next level is expected. However she didn't want to and thus while I respect her decision it doesn't make it any less pleasant. For me punting is first and foremost about the emotional aspect before the physical. That's just me though

[Alan86]

Lol don't get me wrong one of the reasons I started punting was because of the annoying thing we call friend zone. Again don't get me wrong I was happy to have these girls as friends but one of them I really liked and spent quite a lot of time with her. Naturally your desire to take the friendship to the next level is expected. However she didn't want to and thus while I respect her decision it doesn't make it any less pleasant. For me punting is first and foremost about the emotional aspect before the physical. That's just me though

Caffrey mate, I'd like to give you some advice. Although I'm no expert, but let's just say this is my experience. I reckon I could actually compete with any of those Pua guys in order to get women.

I used to get friend zoned alot in my earlier days, and it was damn annoying. There would be this 'girl' who I'd crush on for months. I'd talk to her on Internet chat, go out for coffee etc, hoping that given enough time, she'd become my girlfriend. But then months later, when I'd try to do something - friend zoned.

One day I just decided enough is enough! I'd never get friend zoned again. The way I solved this was that I decided I would never be 'just friends' with another hot girl again. (Of course when appropriate eg not coworkers, friends gfs etc). Either you sleep with me, or nothing. I want to $@&) you, yes that's right! (I don't say this out loud lol). I know that sounds harsh, but it's the only thing that worked.

The reason this works is that you become so 'used to' being the friend, that this becomes the way you interact with women. They immediately sense 'friend vibes' coming from you, and they then will see you that way. You need to make it clear that you are their as a romantic suitor and NOT as a friend. And if she gives you a LJBF speech, then simply delete her number and move on.

I know it's harsh, but i believe this is the only real way that people get past the friend zone. Now, I enjoy friendship with girls that I'm already sleeping with, or MLs. When girls meet me, they feel a sexual vibe coming from me. If they don't like it, I don't care.

It kind of makes me laugh when I think how I used to get friend zoned. A nice guy like you is a typical candidate.

[caff3ry]

Caffrey mate, I'd like to give you some advice. Although I'm no expert, but let's just say this is my experience. I reckon I could actually compete with any of those Pua guys in order to get women.

I used to get friend zoned alot in my earlier days, and it was damn annoying. There would be this 'girl' who I'd crush on for months. I'd talk to her on Internet chat, go out for coffee etc, hoping that given enough time, she'd become my girlfriend. But then months later, when I'd try to do something - friend zoned.

One day I just decided enough is enough! I'd never get friend zoned again. The way I solved this was that I decided I would never be 'just friends' with another hot girl again. (Of course when appropriate eg not coworkers, friends gfs etc). Either you sleep with me, or nothing. I want to $@&) you, yes that's right! (I don't say this out loud lol). I know that sounds harsh, but it's the only thing that worked.

The reason this works is that you become so 'used to' being the friend, that this becomes the way you interact with women. They immediately sense 'friend vibes' coming from you, and they then will see you that way. You need to make it clear that you are their as a romantic suitor and NOT as a friend. And if she gives you a LJBF speech, then simply delete her number and move on.

I know it's harsh, but i believe this is the only real way that people get past the friend zone. Now, I enjoy friendship with girls that I'm already sleeping with, or MLs. When girls meet me, they feel a sexual vibe coming from me. If they don't like it, I don't care.

It kind of makes me laugh when I think how I used to get friend zoned. A nice guy like you is a typical candidate.
Yeah I've read the red pill and PUA Reddits as well haha. I know this will sound strange coming from a punter but I'm picking up in order to look for potential GF material. I agree with you I refuse to be any girls LJBF figure anymore. And I definetly believe in that you need to express a different vibe if you want to move past just friends. So I'll thank you for your advice but nothing I haven't heard before haha. Hence this brings me to punting. Why deal with all the friend zone bullshit when I can just punt.

[Alan86]

Yeah I've read the red pill and PUA Reddits as well haha. I know this will sound strange coming from a punter but I'm picking up in order to look for potential GF material. I agree with you I refuse to be any girls LJBF figure anymore. And I definetly believe in that you need to express a different vibe if you want to move past just friends. So I'll thank you for your advice but nothing I haven't heard before haha. Hence this brings me to punting. Why deal with all the friend zone bullshit when I can just punt.

Yes lol. Punting rules!

But I'd also say that at this stage, you actually DO WANT and appreciate 'just friends '. If so, then continue that way and enjoy your friendships, that's fine.

But if you do get to the point of being sick of it, then try my method. It worked for me.

[James_jones]

I'd talk to her on Internet chat, go out for coffee etc, hoping that given enough time, she'd become my girlfriend. But then months later, when I'd try to do something - friend zoned.


You were friendzoned months ago, not when you tried to make a move. lol

[AHLUNGOR]

Yeah I've read the red pill and PUA Reddits as well haha. I know this will sound strange coming from a punter but I'm picking up in order to look for potential GF material. I agree with you I refuse to be any girls LJBF figure anymore. And I definetly believe in that you need to express a different vibe if you want to move past just friends. So I'll thank you for your advice but nothing I haven't heard before haha. Hence this brings me to punting. Why deal with all the friend zone bullshit when I can just punt.

Plenty of young punters are on the same boat as you brother.

Dating , courtship and all that and may be eventually lead to bf gf and some free sex, that's the normal romantic way and most people would have experienced that and memories to cherish for life.

On the other hand , some times blokes just want sex! Who has time to pick up and date, wine and dine and still no guarantee of you can actually score at the end of the night ? So punting becomes a sure thing alternative .

Just don't get hooked or addicted.......haha

Cheers

[Devilex]

Went out with her last night as its her birthday. Took her to a better restaurant and after dinner walked her over the wharf.
I can feel we are building trust as I disclosed my position of not being able to spend any big ticket items ( an ordinary office person with average pay) and married (can't get her green card). But will always be around if she needs any advice.
A peaceful night again, we kissed goodbye.

[docevil]

Went out with her last night as its her birthday. Took her to a better restaurant and after dinner walked her over the wharf.
I can feel we are building trust as I disclosed my position of not being able to spend any big ticket items ( an ordinary office person with average pay) and married (can't get her green card). But will always be around if she needs any advice.
A peaceful night again, we kissed goodbye.

I think something is developing nicely between the 2 of you. Just wondering how you keep all these in perspective? As an outsider, I envisage things will not turn out well in the long term (maybe I am just a pessimist :) ) given that you are married.

Do you see other ML/Wl as well so you do not "over invest" in this relationship?

Just curious about your thoughts and plans...

[Alan86]

You were friendzoned months ago, not when you tried to make a move. lol

Touche ! :)

[Devilex]

I think something is developing nicely between the 2 of you. Just wondering how you keep all these in perspective? As an outsider, I envisage things will not turn out well in the long term (maybe I am just a pessimist :) ) given that you are married.


Do you see other ML/Wl as well so you do not "over invest" in this relationship?

Just curious about your thoughts and plans...

To be honest I don't have a plan. She said she wants to stick with me and she recently got offered by one of her client for partner migration. She asked me if that's legit or not but feel embarrassed for me to approach her client for further investigation.
We went out agin today to a karaoke and had some good chat. She told me about the story of her ex BF betrayed her.
She confessed that she is hesitant about our relationship as she was previously burnt, and can't see a lot of future but she will hang in there until God knows what could happen to us.

[simplelife]

To be honest I don't have a plan. She said she wants to stick with me and she recently got offered by one of her client for partner migration. She asked me if that's legit or not but feel embarrassed for me to approach her client for further investigation.
We went out agin today to a karaoke and had some good chat. She told me about the story of her ex BF betrayed her.
She confessed that she is hesitant about our relationship as she was previously burnt, and can't see a lot of future but she will hang in there until God knows what could happen to us.

Step by step, I hope everything works out for you brother devilex. Only good wishes for you who knows what in plan for the future, just be prepared for all outcomes!

[Devilex]

Step by step, I hope everything works out for you brother devilex. Only good wishes for you who knows what in plan for the future, just be prepared for all outcomes!
Thanks brother.
She just texted me she is booked for the whole night tonight, somehow I feel very upset about it but feel I can't do anything about.

[DemonHarry]

Thanks brother.
She just texted me she is booked for the whole night tonight, somehow I feel very upset about it but feel I can't do anything about.

Stay strong to your own principles, but don't be a bastard about it. Be willing to explain and negotiate when your are feeling upset /uncomfortable. All girls have an excellent radar for that.

[simplelife]

Can happen to any of us brother even you, but how you drive the train determines if its a wreckage or not. Stay strong brothers

[simplelife]

Dude has clearly let himself have feelings for somebody that has contact with a lot of bros just the same as himself, not so much of an issue if it was just a chance of him getting burnt when it all collapses..........but he is married. That's a high stakes game.

Anyway, none of my business.

True that bro, not trying to defend him/have a go at you/or say anything bad just saying these things can happen. Since it's the case it happened might as well just caution him with the actions he takes.

Respect your opinion brother.

[serge_nubret]

I can feel we are building trust as I disclosed my position of not being able to spend any big ticket items ( an ordinary office person with average pay) and married (can't get her green card). But will always be around if she needs any advice.


Strewth. Sorry if you've already covered it but how are things going with your wife? Has the passion died and you're looking elsewhere?

Only reason I ask is I'm a married bro as well and have had a similar situation (not as intense as yours though) but pulled the plug when I realised what I'd lose.

[Devilex]

Strewth. Sorry if you've already covered it but how are things going with your wife? Has the passion died and you're looking elsewhere?

Only reason I ask is I'm a married bro as well and have had a similar situation (not as intense as yours though) but pulled the plug when I realised what I'd lose.

As I said I don't have a plan. I just let things unfold, while trying my best effort not to be discovered by anyone.

Things continue to develop, last Monday she lied to the shop and ducked out with me, we went to a hotel nearby and had some crazy sex. It's has been long time.bought a pack of condom on our way and used 2, towards the end of 2nd shot she pulled off the condom and said fuck it I want you!!

She had 3 orgasm during the 6 hours, we had a quick meal and I drove her back to her shop.

[paulgallen]

Why would she pull off the condom ? It does it not make it more enjoyable for her.
But for the guy it is massive difference feel right ?

[serge_nubret]

It's has been long time.bought a pack of condom on our way and used 2, towards the end of 2nd shot she pulled off the condom and said fuck it I want you!!


Hope you pulled out and didn't give her the nut.

If so, the technical term for that I believe is a "pussy trap".

[Atilla]

Maybe she is genuine.

[caff3ry]

Damn this story is heating up!

[kingwally]

Why would she pull off the condom ? It does it not make it more enjoyable for her.
But for the guy it is massive difference feel right ?

Other than WLs ...every girl that I have ever fucked hated using condoms. They like the feel of bareback as well...as long as they are safe from pregnancy or STDs.

[Devilex]

Hope you pulled out and didn't give her the nut.

If so, the technical term for that I believe is a "pussy trap".

I continue to bang her bareback, but cum outside on her belly. She asked me not to cum inside if possible

[Devilex]

What if you catch something and you give it to your wife?
On Sunday She texted me that she has passed medical examinations, when she told me that, the hotel event wasn't planned yet, so the two events were not related.
So I know she is safe. And I know I am safe too.

[Devilex]

What if you catch something and you give it to your wife?

Maybe I'm banging your ML girlfriend bareback when you're at home with your family.
Well, you can also argue the trust, but what's in for her, to pull it off?
And this goes two ways, what if I have something ? Knowing I am a brothel frequent.
It's is trust between the two of us, I consider.

[simplelife]

Wow, I did not expect that. Shit just got fucking real. Please keep us updated.

[serge_nubret]

I continue to bang her bareback, but cum outside on her belly. She asked me not to cum inside if possible

Nice one bro, glad you've still got your wits about you.

I've not had the same strength of character as yourself and it's gotten me into some pear shaped situations. Bang away good sir.

But I seriously hope you're taking all the necessary precautions. Shower with non scented soap, ask your ML not to wear perfume around you, watch out for stray hairs etc.

[Devilex]

Nice one bro, glad you've still got your wits about you.

I've not had the same strength of character as yourself and it's gotten me into some pear shaped situations. Bang away good sir.

But I seriously hope you're taking all the necessary precautions. Shower with non scented soap, ask your ML not to wear perfume around you, watch out for stray hairs etc.
Thanks bro for all tips.
She did all that, she knew I got a family so even before I asked her, she is very considerate. A few times she didn't even wear make up when dating with me. When I call her she won't speak before she hears me so that she can make sure it's me not my wife checking.

[Nejums]

It's the sense of danger that gives it excitement. As a fellow married brother with kids, this is some shit I would not want to attempt. All I can say is good luck to you. Just remember you'll end up hurting one person real bad regardless of outcome. Unless your wife's ok with concubines, then go for broke!

[serge_nubret]

In all honesty I don't understand your tips or the OP's reason for pursing this. If you're married why the fuck would you play with fire? Your marriage that shite you'd jeopardise it with some ML lady that'll burn you in the end just for free sex? Cmon bro...sex not that difficult to come by.

Set me straight and I'll STFU 100%

You're alright bro, I don't understand it either, and your comment is 100% accurate.

In regards to playing with fire, I can't speak for OP, but in my situation it was a WL as well as non working girls. Basically I have a sex addiction, and would pursue anything. Its under control at the moment, but it's lead to me doing all sorts of fucked up shit. Also, I'm under no allusions, I'm a total piece of shit.

In regards to the tips I was giving, OP is gonna do what he wants, I figure if I can at least give him some pointers over where I've gone wrong in the past, he can not get busted for a little longer. Truthfully though, a wife can ALWAYS tell something is up. It's just whether she has evidence or not.

[woods23]

Well, you can also argue the trust, but what's in for her, to pull it off?
And this goes two ways, what if I have something ? Knowing I am a brothel frequent.
It's is trust between the two of us, I consider.

Good luck bro.

But one bro here told me, these ml is from another planet.
We have no idea what they are thinking lol....it's quite scary :startle: I'm praying for you.

[serge_nubret]

Haha we'll be good mates for sure if we ever meet lol

Is it about the sex with this bro, seems he's developing feelings for his ML

Lol you're a good man. If they ever organise Aus99 drinks, I owe you a beer.

Yeah he's definitely caught feels. OP gotta think about it logically though: how long will the feels last? Bail on your wife or stuff your marriage, and the first month or two will be awesome with this young, hot, new toy. Then the slow realisation that your family and friends will think you're a cunt, this new chick knows fuck all about keeping a house, she doesn't know what to do when you're crook, and her job skills revolve around jerking guys off.

This was my thought process when I was mucking around, and it set me straight.

[CunningLinguist]

watch out for stray hairs

Chicks will notice "foreign" hairs :)

[rooter]

I'm loving this thread.
It's a real soap opera.
Has the ML got a shaved pussy?
If so, then we can call it "The Bald and the Beautiful" ;)

[Devilex]

Update please!

Lol, have you found your popcorn?

Everything went well - we still text each other back and forth every day.
But her tourist visa is coming to an end, so sadly she might have to leave by end of the month and come back in a few months' time.
I can't do anything about it which makes me quite upset these days

[paulgallen]

Get a mate to help out !!

[Starfire]

Lol, have you found your popcorn?

Everything went well - we still text each other back and forth every day.
But her tourist visa is coming to an end, so sadly she might have to leave by end of the month and come back in a few months' time.
I can't do anything about it which makes me quite upset these days

I can empathise with u but I worry where this is heading. You said u don't have an end game which isn't a good idea. As others have said and feel. It will only end in pain..

I wish u all the best bro

[simplelife]

Lol, have you found your popcorn?

Everything went well - we still text each other back and forth every day.
But her tourist visa is coming to an end, so sadly she might have to leave by end of the month and come back in a few months' time.
I can't do anything about it which makes me quite upset these days

This break might actually be a good thing for you, a bit of a breather tbh.
Clear your thoughts and think long and hard cuzz, but only you can answer it! Let us know! fighting! (strong calculated guess you are korean, so im guessing you know what fighting means lol)

[Devilex]

Divorce your wife and marry her. It's the right thing to do...
Sounds like a plan, thansk for the creative suggestion, let me talk to my lawyer!

[Devilex]

This break might actually be a good thing for you, a bit of a breather tbh.
Clear your thoughts and think long and hard cuzz, but only you can answer it! Let us know! fighting! (strong calculated guess you are korean, so im guessing you know what fighting means lol)

Bro, no I am not Korean. Actually i don't even like to see Korean ladies in the shop.
Their service attitude is average, in general. No offence.

Thanks for your comment though. You have been genuine on tips and possible outcomes.

[Devilex]

I can empathise with u but I worry where this is heading. You said u don't have an end game which isn't a good idea. As others have said and feel. It will only end in pain..

I wish u all the best bro
Thanks bro.
It's too hard to predict, by human.
I guess I am one of the emotional guys here.
Have been putting for 10+ years and met numberous ladies, slim or fat, young or Milf, Asian or cauc....but this one really gives me something real different which I can't tell but very addictive.
I met her again Monday again in the shop and had a long chatting session with her. Nonsex. She told the shop manager (not owner) to look after me (don't disturb when time is up), so I paid 1 hour day time special and stayed for two.

[serge_nubret]

Real talk, this is a serious question: She's leaving at the end of the month, so are you going to give her a lift to the airport?

The airport run, only surpassed by assisting when moving house, is one of the most surefire methods for judging the seriousness of a relationship.

[simplelife]

Bro, no I am not Korean. Actually i don't even like to see Korean ladies in the shop.
Their service attitude is average, in general. No offence.

Thanks for your comment though. You have been genuine on tips and possible outcomes.

Damn my guessing on point... lol fuarr need to work on that. No offence taken I don't even see korean ladies either.

Its all good brother everyone has a different path in life fuck the haters.

[caff3ry]

I've never been married so take this at face value. Maybe this can help you arrive at the answer you are seeking. Imagine you knew your wife was doing the same thing as you now. How would you feel about it. If you didn't mind so much or didn't really care maybe that's your answer to move on to the next phase of your life. YOLO don't live your life in doubt secrecy and guilt if your gonna do something may as well do it to keep yourself happy. If you do mind that your wife is seeing someone else other than you for the same reasons as yourself then maybe there is still somethjng there between you two. Best of luck bro!

[simplelife]

So you do realise the gravity of the situation you are continuing to pursue.....for what?!?!?

You still go to her shop and PAY for her time lolol

DAFUK is wrong with you bro?!?!?

Pretty sure that was sarcasm cuzz, correct me if im wrong

[simplelife]

As was my comment he was replying to. Regardless it's a realistic possibility in this situation with the bro potentially burning his marriage for a ML.

Ah is it? Didnt realise that part my bad slow morning

[Devilex]

Real talk, this is a serious question: She's leaving at the end of the month, so are you going to give her a lift to the airport?

The airport run, only surpassed by assisting when moving house, is one of the most surefire methods for judging the seriousness of a relationship.

You read my mind.
I asked her about the airport trip and she said I would be the only person she wants, to take her to airport

[Devilex]

I've never been married so take this at face value. Maybe this can help you arrive at the answer you are seeking. Imagine you knew your wife was doing the same thing as you now. How would you feel about it. If you didn't mind so much or didn't really care maybe that's your answer to move on to the next phase of your life. YOLO don't live your life in doubt secrecy and guilt if your gonna do something may as well do it to keep yourself happy. If you do mind that your wife is seeing someone else other than you for the same reasons as yourself then maybe there is still somethjng there between you two. Best of luck bro!

Very good point indeed! Thanks bro for your thoughts.

[Devilex]

So you do realise the gravity of the situation you are continuing to pursue.....for what?!?!?

You still go to her shop and PAY for her time lolol

DAFUK is wrong with you bro?!?!?
At some stage I doubt if you are my father in law, lol
Not sure if I need to justify it to you.

[Devilex]

Ah is it? Didnt realise that part my bad slow morning
It was sarcasm. Spot on.

[caff3ry]

Waiting for an update

[Devilex]

Waiting for an update
She tried to apply a student visa

Me and her went to a temple yesterday praying for that bridging visa to be granted and magically 30mins after we walked out the temple she got confirmation from her agent that the visa is in bridging status now ! She doesn't have to leave end of the month.
We had a good dinner for celebration :-)

[serge_nubret]

She tried to apply a student visa

Me and her went to a temple yesterday praying for that bridging visa to be granted and magically 30mins after we walked out the temple she got confirmation from her agent that the visa is in bridging status now ! She doesn't have to leave end of the month.
We had a good dinner for celebration :-)

The saga continues. Keep us posted bro and be safe. Stray hairs and perfume mate, remember.

[caff3ry]

Happy for you Devilex but again as serge has said keep your wits about you. Have you given any more thought into how you want to play this one out in the future? I'm sure you have already thought about how far you want to take this relationship.

[pepefirstlove]

Just found this thread... wow what a read, so much drama. Hope but nothing all the best to you bro. Keep us posted...

I'm only just became a married man so in no way want to be in this position. How hard is it to keep any suspicion from the wife.?

[AHLUNGOR]

Just found this thread... wow what a read, so much drama. Hope but nothing all the best to you bro. Keep us posted...

I'm only just became a married man so in no way want to be in this position. How hard is it to keep any suspicion from the wife.?

Hey bro ,

If you are just married, why are you here ?

Better stay away and love thy wife ?

Good luck

Cheers

[cato]

I think there are more than just a few married men on this forum...

Are you saying for pepe to stay away because he is just married and he should still be in honeymoon mode?

[AHLUNGOR]

I think there are more than just a few married men on this forum...

Are you saying for pepe to stay away because he is just married and he should still be in honeymoon mode?

That's exactly the sentiment brother Cato !

[caff3ry]

Finally lungor is back dude where you been so boring without your post!

[cato]

That's exactly the sentiment brother Cato !

I see... But honeymoon mode assumes that it was a traditional courtship with no sex and as soon as you get married you hump like crazy because you've been holding out...

These days, most couples are already having sex before they tie the knot, so I'm not sure how much of a real honeymoon period most people have??

Unless of course your new wife lets you do things that she didn't allow before marriage.... Then this could then be the 'free extras' kind of honeymoon period...

LOL

[poundher]

Hey bro ,

If you are just married, why are you here ?

Better stay away and love thy wife ?

Good luck

Cheers

You trying to give moral lessons about being faithful to thy wife is a joke!

Get off thy high horse!

[CunningLinguist]

Hey bro ,

If you are just married, why are you here ?

Better stay away and love thy wife ?

Good luck

Cheers

FFS You are preaching morals to someone else ...

[Starfire]

She tried to apply a student visa

Me and her went to a temple yesterday praying for that bridging visa to be granted and magically 30mins after we walked out the temple she got confirmation from her agent that the visa is in bridging status now ! She doesn't have to leave end of the month.
We had a good dinner for celebration :-)

How's it been Devilex?

[Devilex]

Thanks for checking in !
We had some small arguments on certain things and exchanged some life opinions
But generally went well. :-)
I haven't lost my passion, so does her.
We went away to central coast last week, enjoyed the weather on lagoon, had some nice dishes, got ourselves wasted and had some crazy sex back in the villa.
I am madly in love with her now which could be a worry

[caff3ry]

Thanks for checking in !
We had some small arguments on certain things and exchanged some life opinions
But generally went well. :-)
I haven't lost my passion, so does her.
We went away to central coast last week, enjoyed the weather on lagoon, had some nice dishes, got ourselves wasted and had some crazy sex back in the villa.
I am madly in love with her now which could be a worry
Does the wife suspect anything?

[Nekman]

Hey Devilex, any updates? Hope all is going well and you are safe!

[caff3ry]

Hey Devilex, any updates? Hope all is going well and you are safe!

+1 I'd like to know as well

[Wwwxwh06]

+1 I'd like to know as well

+1. Keen to know as well

[BigDickAsian]

+1. Keen to know as well

Wow! What a story! I'm rooting for ya! I say follow your dreams!
As long as you don't have a kid!
In which case, you better to just keep this girl as a side chick.

[Skippy tasman]

Secret to a long and happy marriage.....SMB....


Secret men's business!!!!

[pepefirstlove]

I see... But honeymoon mode assumes that it was a traditional courtship with no sex and as soon as you get married you hump like crazy because you've been holding out...

These days, most couples are already having sex before they tie the knot, so I'm not sure how much of a real honeymoon period most people have??

Unless of course your new wife lets you do things that she didn't allow before marriage.... Then this could then be the 'free extras' kind of honeymoon period...

LOL

I tied the knot oversea and had to come back to do some paperwork and waiting for VISA. Now it's been over 6months and I finally get to visit her back for our first real honeymoon.

Yes unfortunately I am one of those unlucky bastard follow this traditional courtship. But so much worth it on the night of our wedding hehe

[Devilex]

so much has happened since my last post. This couple of month feels like a few years for me...let me spend some time to organise this story in structured details ..

[woods23]

Nice ....
So excited hehe ;)

[simplelife]

strong feels tragicness is incoming

[caff3ry]

I have the same vibe :(

[kingyema]

either this will turn out to be a happily ever after tale where the ML is the perfect side chick or it ends up fucked up in both ends lol either way keen to hear the update

[HotSpicyJohnny]

Good luck.
Do whatever your heart tells you is right :)

[ramjet]

I look forward to reading your update but if it's gone bad and you've drifted apart it could be a blessing in disguise.

[classicfine]

Rooting for you buddy just be weary of ulterior motives, as the philosopher J. Cole once rapped:

♫One time for my LA sisters
One time for my LA hoes
Lame niggas can't tell the difference
One time for a nigga who knows

Don't save her
She don't wanna be saved
Don't save her
She don't wanna be saved
Don't save her
She don't wanna be saved♫

https://youtu.be/imgYGfH2yNM?t=38s

[Devilex]

Ok its Friday…I promise to give you guys a more structured update.

Last time I mentioned about me going with the lady to Central coast for a nice 2 days get-away. We were really enjoying our time together.

Wife has planned a 10 days trip by herself during September by herself (I don’t have enough annual leave)… which was a golden opportunity for me and my lovely lady
Soon as I sent wife off from airport, I went to meet my lady. I have told her about the next 10 days and she was prepared with her brief suitcase waiting for me.
Yes I took her home…. She told her workplace that she had health issues and couldn’t work. and she will be staying with me for the next 10 days.

During the 10 days, I went to work as normal, she stayed home and made me meals, we held hands, kissed and walked around doing grocery shopping as normal couple, we dined at night and chatted a lot about each other, we got drunk again and we crazily made sex again and again… we cant stop now.

Until the wife came back, next chapter.

[AHLUNGOR]

Ok its Friday…I promise to give you guys a more structured update.

Last time I mentioned about me going with the lady to Central coast for a nice 2 days get-away. We were really enjoying our time together.

Wife has planned a 10 days trip by herself during September by herself (I don’t have enough annual leave)… which was a golden opportunity for me and my lovely lady
Soon as I sent wife off from airport, I went to meet my lady. I have told her about the next 10 days and she was prepared with her brief suitcase waiting for me.
Yes I took her home…. She told her workplace that she had health issues and couldn’t work. and she will be staying with me for the next 10 days.

During the 10 days, I went to work as normal, she stayed home and made me meals, we held hands, kissed and walked around doing grocery shopping as normal couple, we dined at night and chatted a lot about each other, we got drunk again and we crazily made sex again and again… we cant stop now.

Until the wife came back, next chapter.

May be you should divorce your wife now !

[poundher]

Ok its Friday…I promise to give you guys a more structured update.

Last time I mentioned about me going with the lady to Central coast for a nice 2 days get-away. We were really enjoying our time together.

Wife has planned a 10 days trip by herself during September by herself (I don’t have enough annual leave)… which was a golden opportunity for me and my lovely lady
Soon as I sent wife off from airport, I went to meet my lady. I have told her about the next 10 days and she was prepared with her brief suitcase waiting for me.
Yes I took her home…. She told her workplace that she had health issues and couldn’t work. and she will be staying with me for the next 10 days.

During the 10 days, I went to work as normal, she stayed home and made me meals, we held hands, kissed and walked around doing grocery shopping as normal couple, we dined at night and chatted a lot about each other, we got drunk again and we crazily made sex again and again… we cant stop now.

Until the wife came back, next chapter.

Really?
You believe that your wife is going away by herself for 10 days you're delusional!
She's already lined up a young big dick stud to pound her brains out day and night.
Probably bareback and cream pies the whole time.
He'll send back your lovely mrs leaking. Punters that sneak around getting hand jobs from aunties while the Mrs is being pounded.

[shootermcgavin]

Can't believe you let her stay with you for 10 days in your own house bro. That's flirting with disaster. A neighbour seeing her and off handedly commenting to your wife, a stray hair on linen, a smudge of lipstick, trace of perfume. Women can spot these things a mile away.

Let's be honest, at this point it sounds like you wanna get caught.

[woods23]

Just say .....Not a Single Fuck Was Given That Day (or 10 days) hehe ;)

Good luck with your journey to happiness!

[TallyHo]

Ok its Friday…I promise to give you guys a more structured update.

Last time I mentioned about me going with the lady to Central coast for a nice 2 days get-away. We were really enjoying our time together.

Wife has planned a 10 days trip by herself during September by herself (I don’t have enough annual leave)… which was a golden opportunity for me and my lovely lady
Soon as I sent wife off from airport, I went to meet my lady. I have told her about the next 10 days and she was prepared with her brief suitcase waiting for me.
Yes I took her home…. She told her workplace that she had health issues and couldn’t work. and she will be staying with me for the next 10 days.

During the 10 days, I went to work as normal, she stayed home and made me meals, we held hands, kissed and walked around doing grocery shopping as normal couple, we dined at night and chatted a lot about each other, we got drunk again and we crazily made sex again and again… we cant stop now.

Until the wife came back, next chapter.

You are married. Why stray?

In my humble opinion, it looks like what you are doing is not love but sexual desire.

[kingyema]

Really?
You believe that your wife is going away by herself for 10 days you're delusional!
She's already lined up a young big dick stud to pound her brains out day and night.
Probably bareback and cream pies the whole time.
He'll send back your lovely mrs leaking. Punters that sneak around getting hand jobs from aunties while the Mrs is being pounded.

FUCKING LOL best scenario description hahaha

[classicfine]

Guess you have to weigh up what you marriage means to you, you guys may have been great together but sometimes the spark gets lost things dont work out, think back to the Voice AU battle rounds where the lack out mutual (singing)support between a pair can destory the song (marriage).

Although if you do pursue this new girl you probably leave your wife feeling robbed kinda of like how Shannon Noll was robbed of she season 1 Australian Idol title in 2003 by Guy Sebastian. #memes2016

[poundher]

FUCKING LOL best scenario description hahaha

I've seen it happen, been a part of it and heard stories.
8 years ago I was banging this middle aged milf.
Hubby was spending time and money with aunties at the rub and tug while I was balls deep without condom in his mrs.
Zero chance of her getting preg so I was busting inside each and every time except for the cum in mouth.
We were screwing once a week for about 5 months.
Good times!

[shootermcgavin]

Although if you do pursue this new girl you probably leave your wife feeling robbed kinda of like how Shannon Noll was robbed of she season 1 Australian Idol title in 2003 by Guy Sebastian. #memes2016

Lol solid meme usage.

But in all seriousness, Nollsy was robbed, like OP's wife of her dignity.

Not srs.

[tpol]

Ok its Friday…I promise to give you guys a more structured update.

Last time I mentioned about me going with the lady to Central coast for a nice 2 days get-away. We were really enjoying our time together.

Wife has planned a 10 days trip by herself during September by herself (I don’t have enough annual leave)… which was a golden opportunity for me and my lovely lady
Soon as I sent wife off from airport, I went to meet my lady. I have told her about the next 10 days and she was prepared with her brief suitcase waiting for me.
Yes I took her home…. She told her workplace that she had health issues and couldn’t work. and she will be staying with me for the next 10 days.

During the 10 days, I went to work as normal, she stayed home and made me meals, we held hands, kissed and walked around doing grocery shopping as normal couple, we dined at night and chatted a lot about each other, we got drunk again and we crazily made sex again and again… we cant stop now.

Until the wife came back, next chapter.

Gee. Glad you dont have nosey neighbours

[kingyema]

I've seen it happen, been a part of it and heard stories.
8 years ago I was banging this middle aged milf.
Hubby was spending time and money with aunties at the rub and tug while I was balls deep without condom in his mrs.
Zero chance of her getting preg so I was busting inside each and every time except for the cum in mouth.
We were screwing once a week for about 5 months.
Good times!

damnnnn, salute to you bro! I think I'd rather have that situation rather than the op's one

[poundher]

damnnnn, salute to you bro! I think I'd rather have that situation rather than the op's one

Cheers mate and thanks for your support!

[Babycat]

Really?
You believe that your wife is going away by herself for 10 days you're delusional!
She's already lined up a young big dick stud to pound her brains out day and night.
Probably bareback and cream pies the whole time.
He'll send back your lovely mrs leaking. Punters that sneak around getting hand jobs from aunties while the Mrs is being pounded.

I like a simple revenge. Get caught, them dumped!

[poundher]

I like a simple revenge. Get caught, them dumped!

What do you mean?

[Starfire]

Ok its Friday…I promise to give you guys a more structured update.

Last time I mentioned about me going with the lady to Central coast for a nice 2 days get-away. We were really enjoying our time together.

Wife has planned a 10 days trip by herself during September by herself (I don’t have enough annual leave)… which was a golden opportunity for me and my lovely lady
Soon as I sent wife off from airport, I went to meet my lady. I have told her about the next 10 days and she was prepared with her brief suitcase waiting for me.
Yes I took her home…. She told her workplace that she had health issues and couldn’t work. and she will be staying with me for the next 10 days.

During the 10 days, I went to work as normal, she stayed home and made me meals, we held hands, kissed and walked around doing grocery shopping as normal couple, we dined at night and chatted a lot about each other, we got drunk again and we crazily made sex again and again… we cant stop now.

Until the wife came back, next chapter.

Hey Devilex!

How u going? We never got the next part to this. Hope everything is OK!

[pooh10]

I am pretty sure you are not the only waiting for the next chapter. I am too lol. Hope Starfire will tell us the next chapter soon....

[paulgallen]

Devilex hasn't logged on for 2 months.

Hes probably totally fucked up by now

[jwcool]

Waiting for an update too!

[Pixez]

Guess you have to weigh up what you marriage means to you, you guys may have been great together but sometimes the spark gets lost things dont work out, think back to the Voice AU battle rounds where the lack out mutual (singing)support between a pair can destory the song (marriage).

Although if you do pursue this new girl you probably leave your wife feeling robbed kinda of like how Shannon Noll was robbed of she season 1 Australian Idol title in 2003 by Guy Sebastian. #memes2016

F****n lol

[Johnrano888]

Let me share to you guys my story

I've dated 3 ML's in the past

First ML she was actually the first girl to give me a HE and the first ever RNT shop I ever stepped to in my life. I can't even remember why I ended up going into the store. Anyway if anyone remembers their first time punting you can remember the many emotions running through your head at that time. The store was busy and she was the only one available she was gorgeous instant hard on and in I went. From then on I was hooked saw her two times a week. Ended up doing BBFS during a session when she just shoved it in her p**** and from then it went full storm. Saw her two three times a week for BBFS dinners, movies and getaways when she had the day off.

Got serious quickly but she was always reluctant to introduce me to her family and friends. She started getting real money hungry asking me to buy everything for her which I did. I even employed three of her family members in my business who are still working for me till this day. One day she just upped and left me no explanation nothing. Heartbroken for a few months I started dating another ML.

To be continued

[HumptyDumpty]

I may be stereotypical but i believe that all relationships with ML would eventually turn into a sugar daddy relationship. At the start everything always goes well and then they start playing with your emotions until you promise her anything. Im not the best person to say anything because I have also fucked up before.

[Maxybro]

Let me share to you guys my story

I've dated 3 ML's in the past

First ML she was actually the first girl to give me a HE and the first ever RNT shop I ever stepped to in my life. I can't even remember why I ended up going into the store. Anyway if anyone remembers their first time punting you can remember the many emotions running through your head at that time. The store was busy and she was the only one available she was gorgeous instant hard on and in I went. From then on I was hooked saw her two times a week. Ended up doing BBFS during a session when she just shoved it in her p**** and from then it went full storm. Saw her two three times a week for BBFS dinners, movies and getaways when she had the day off.

Got serious quickly but she was always reluctant to introduce me to her family and friends. She started getting real money hungry asking me to buy everything for her which I did. I even employed three of her family members in my business who are still working for me till this day. One day she just upped and left me no explanation nothing. Heartbroken for a few months I started dating another ML.

To be continued

How come you haven't asked her family members where she is or what happened to her?

[ilum]

Interesting stories

[Devilex]

Sorry to make you wait, I have some long stories to tell! But long story short, I can sum them up in a few points,
1. Wife checked my mobile while I was showering , so it went busted. We had a bad night (which is an understatement) and she flew back to china for a period of 10 days
2. During the 10 days I continued to date my valentine at home, but I did commit to fly back and make some apology to her (which was not genuine but only tried to save the marriage for the time being)
3. My lady feared that wife might Trace her down, she left Sydney and now works in Melbourne private escort.
4. Since then we had been in contact everyday ( FACETIME) and she visited Sydney once a month. We continue to have good times but keep it very discreet.
5. As you can imagine, since I play down and become very cautious, wife could hardly catch anything and through modern technology (ie FaceTime ) I have strengthened relationship with my Melbourne lady - keeping a good balance for now.

I was once told, that we can test whether you love a lady or just want to get her in bed, you can masterbate first then you you will get that true feeling.
Seeing her only once a month is had for both of us.
Every time I mastebate I think of her. And after I cum I still want to hug her and kiss her. I think I love her, even though I know how many dicks she has gone through on a daily basis.

Call me bastard, morally I truly am.

[shootermcgavin]

Every time I mastebate I think of her. And after I cum I still want to hug her and kiss her. I think I love her, even though I know how many dicks she has gone through on a daily basis.


Most beautiful fucking thing I've ever read. Got me right in the ticker.

[AHLUNGOR]

May be its best for the Devil to get a divorce now so that everyone can move on and start a new life and be happy ??

[Babycat]

May be its best for the Devil to get a divorce now so that everyone can move on and start a new life and be happy ??
I'm strongly agree with you, Uncle, although it's hard to say which is the best as I'm not in their situation. But keeping a none-feeling relationship like that will be a toxic for all the parties involved. Don't say it's good for kids. Parents might not understand what kids really think and feel about their failure relationship. Kids are not too dumb to ignore the coldness of their families. Living in family with full of lies not help them feel better than facing parents' divorce. Be apart, but at least the truth can be respected. From my own experiences, not easy to live in a fake family.

[Babycat]

Not everyone appreciates what they have "one in your hand is worth two in the bush"
But .... The other grass is always greener.

[garfield]

Not everyone appreciates what they have "one in your hand is worth two in the bush"
But .... The other grass is always greener.

Very well said.

[TallyHo]

Sorry to make you wait, I have some long stories to tell! But long story short, I can sum them up in a few points,
1. Wife checked my mobile while I was showering , so it went busted. We had a bad night (which is an understatement) and she flew back to china for a period of 10 days
2. During the 10 days I continued to date my valentine at home, but I did commit to fly back and make some apology to her (which was not genuine but only tried to save the marriage for the time being)
3. My lady feared that wife might Trace her down, she left Sydney and now works in Melbourne private escort.
4. Since then we had been in contact everyday ( FACETIME) and she visited Sydney once a month. We continue to have good times but keep it very discreet.
5. As you can imagine, since I play down and become very cautious, wife could hardly catch anything and through modern technology (ie FaceTime ) I have strengthened relationship with my Melbourne lady - keeping a good balance for now.

I was once told, that we can test whether you love a lady or just want to get her in bed, you can masterbate first then you you will get that true feeling.
Seeing her only once a month is had for both of us.
Every time I mastebate I think of her. And after I cum I still want to hug her and kiss her. I think I love her, even though I know how many dicks she has gone through on a daily basis.

Call me bastard, morally I truly am.

What you have said is lust not love. Why marry someone if you cannot love the person for life? Is your wife bad to you?

[j_highrolla]

lol I just read this from first page to last ... gotta say its one of the best reads ive had. So much advice and wisdom .... can turn this topic into a book. thanks fellow bros

[carmen farquis]

All of the guys i know who are with ex mls seem happy enough. I feel sorry for the girls though who are with some guy thinking they can have a better life, not have to do this job anymore but the guy's just using them for free sex or whatever. Pretty selfish i think

[AHLUNGOR]

All of the guys i know who are with ex mls seem happy enough. I feel sorry for the girls though who are with some guy thinking they can have a better life, not have to do this job anymore but the guy's just using them for free sex or whatever. Pretty selfish i think

But if the guys are supporting those ex mls financially then it's more like a transaction / sugar daddy type arrangement rather than a bf/gf relationship- which probably won't last long when the guy gets tired of the lady ?