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imaragingbull
17-08-2016, 04:59 PM
Brothers,

It's come to a point where it looks as though my (limited) punting career will come to an end. Not necessarily by choice, but due to an overseas move for work where it just doesn't make sense or can't compare to Sydney or other 'friendlier' markets for the customer.

I don't think I'm upset or concerned, even in Sydney visiting a ML recently lost the excitement, even when doing this very infrequently.

Have any brothers managed to do this for a few years? Or finish up for good? I would assume that most posters still punt, or maybe there are some retired punters who lurk?

Thanks to those that contributed during my time, thanks for the advice, thanks for the tips, thanks for all of that.

Of course people go for all different reasons, but I'm sure there are many others who have cut back or even stopped punting completely to pick up other 'hobbies' so to speak

I look forward to going out with one big hurrah!

Pussyhands
17-08-2016, 05:05 PM
Yo do all when u can. Hobbie, work, punt.

Mr Bastard
17-08-2016, 05:28 PM
Sad to hear Gordon, but on the flipside it means one less punter in the equation of making a booking............

Good luck with everything and all the best.....

Raybo
17-08-2016, 06:11 PM
I wont say i am retiring but i havent punted for over 2 months. I think it is playing on my conscience a little and i think i am developing a warped sense of sex and relationships.

A girll i had been seeing regularly would text me every time she was working saying 'come visit me'. I eventually told her i was taking a break. She responded 'dont stop coming, come see me when you have time. I eventually told her the reason and havent heard from her since.

I will probably het back on it at some stage but for now happy to go without.

I am sure at some stage imaragingbull you will get an opportunity and pick up where you left off. Where are you moving to???

garfield
17-08-2016, 07:56 PM
I wont say i am retiring but i havent punted for over 2 months. I think it is playing on my conscience a little and i think i am developing a warped sense of sex and relationships.

A girll i had been seeing regularly would text me every time she was working saying 'come visit me'. I eventually told her i was taking a break. She responded 'dont stop coming, come see me when you have time. I eventually told her the reason and havent heard from her since.

I will probably het back on it at some stage but for now happy to go without.

I am sure at some stage imaragingbull you will get an opportunity and pick up where you left off. Where are you moving to???

Woh, you guys are winning the 30days challenge!

Sam88
17-08-2016, 08:06 PM
^ exactly... I have been failing that challenge quite horribly..

sukeong
17-08-2016, 08:37 PM
I wont say i am retiring but i havent punted for over 2 months. I think it is playing on my conscience a little and i think i am developing a warped sense of sex and relationships.

A girll i had been seeing regularly would text me every time she was working saying 'come visit me'. I eventually told her i was taking a break. She responded 'dont stop coming, come see me when you have time. I eventually told her the reason and havent heard from her since.

I will probably het back on it at some stage but for now happy to go without.

I am sure at some stage imaragingbull you will get an opportunity and pick up where you left off. Where are you moving to???

Dude you are doing well. But stay away from this forum, it just makes it harder to quit totally if you keep coming here.

MLMatt
17-08-2016, 10:37 PM
Enjoy your move overseas - Oz is always back here if you need some relaxation or a holiday after resetting the buttons overseas.

Strayer Mate
17-08-2016, 10:44 PM
Woh, you guys are winning the 30days challenge!

Every year I do my own 'dry july' ... but not without alcohol (perish the thought!, I'm not THAT crazy)... just abstaining from punting for month of July... I donate my saved punting funds to the Chris OBrien Lifehouse charity (bonus is it's tax deduction)
I find July suits as it's usually damn cold and easy to defer visiting my favourite dens...
However, this year with the warmer weather was particularly hard to abstain ... thank god for 'Golden Ticket' ..... Chris (RIP) is happy, my ML is happy ... AND I'm happy ...

good luck to OP in their enforced chastity ...condolences

aussiegaigin
17-08-2016, 11:06 PM
I've more attempts at retiring from punting than John Farnham has from singing.

Doesn't work. Everytime I want to do it, I figure just one more "for old timers sake" first won't hurt, go back and try some memorable oldies, grrrrrrr

Pussyhands
17-08-2016, 11:16 PM
I ask myself why and if it's for no good reason then I continue

Time spend on punt for that one hour gives me the juice for about 10 days of bliss lol

I genuinely like women but not when they make nonsense.

Raybo
18-08-2016, 10:20 AM
I've more attempts at retiring from punting than John Farnham has from singing.

Doesn't work. Everytime I want to do it, I figure just one more "for old timers sake" first won't hurt, go back and try some memorable oldies, grrrrrrr

I am pretty sure that my abstinence is not a permanent thing. I am down in Melbourne in a couple of weeks for work. Normally get toey when i am back at the hotel in the evening! 😆

rcha086
18-08-2016, 11:18 AM
"Retired" for over a year at one stage. Wallet saw the benefit, but that's about it really. Got really bored one day and checked aus99, then that week I had like 3-4 punts, and it's been regular (once a week on average) ever since.

cato
18-08-2016, 11:41 AM
I don't see how the money saved from punting could be spent in better ways... LOL

imaragingbull
18-08-2016, 12:49 PM
Thank you all for the well wishes!

The raging bull will live on Mr B, but not on the streets of Sydney.

Interesting that many will come back to it after absence. It's not so much I'll be in a place where I will be extremely tempted, but one that just has more inconvenience that makes the event more of an ordeal it seems.

Final week hurrah coming up, so will try to go out in style!

The money differential won't be noticed as I'm so infrequent anyway, but I'm sure my mind will cast back to the memories!!

BigBoy
18-08-2016, 03:17 PM
I'm a infrequent punter and have tried giving up too, sometimes go for 3 month without. Then I end up punting like 3-4 times a month. Only visit ML's these days.

rockbreaker
18-08-2016, 08:06 PM
Thank you all for the well wishes!

The raging bull will live on Mr B, but not on the streets of Sydney.

Interesting that many will come back to it after absence. It's not so much I'll be in a place where I will be extremely tempted, but one that just has more inconvenience that makes the event more of an ordeal it seems.

Final week hurrah coming up, so will try to go out in style!

The money differential won't be noticed as I'm so infrequent anyway, but I'm sure my mind will cast back to the memories!!

If the guys are still here reading and replying, certainly they have failed quit punting. The audiences you were hoping to hear from simply and supposedly won't visit the forum anymore. I hope this help your morale of quitting!

GoldfishMan
19-08-2016, 08:28 AM
If you're going to retire, why not go out with a bang? Pun intended...
Pick the girl you like the most and book an overnighter.... See what you get. Although it might change your mind about retiring!!

imaragingbull
19-08-2016, 09:35 AM
Good advice Goldfish!! Do MLs do overnighters??

Either way, will try and be selective of the finale next week

pepefirstlove
19-08-2016, 12:29 PM
Been nearly 8 months now since my last punt. This is because now I found my soul mate overseas and yes now a marriage man. I've been staying out and avoid this forum and so far it kinda worked cause I haven't look back since. Now I'm back just enjoying reading other punter's posts. Don't know if this will lead to something.

Any other bro in this situation? Newly-weds man?

garfield
19-08-2016, 12:32 PM
Been nearly 8 months now since my last punt. This is because now I found my soul mate overseas and yes now a marriage man. I've been staying out and avoid this forum and so far it kinda worked cause I haven't look back since. Now I'm back just enjoying reading other punter's posts. Don't know if this will lead to something.

Any other bro in this situation? Newly-weds man?

You better not use this forum otherwise too much temptation.

pepefirstlove
19-08-2016, 12:42 PM
Yes I know it won't be good. But I believe I can hold off the temptation (won't be easy). Btw is just doing massage and hj consider cheating? Haha need some advise...

wilisno
19-08-2016, 02:24 PM
Btw is just doing massage and hj consider cheating? Haha need some advise...

No, it's not cheating, ask your wife if you don't believe me !

rcha086
19-08-2016, 03:02 PM
No, it's not cheating, ask your wife if you don't believe me !

Hahahahaha the truth. Cheating is not an objective term. At the end of the day the definition of it largely depends on your woman! I've got a few mates that get in trouble for liking photos of other women on social media!

cato
19-08-2016, 05:30 PM
I'm not sure how many women would not take issue with their boyfriend/husband getting happy endings from a ML...

The majority wouldn't like it... Just like the men wouldn't like their wives/gfs giving HJs to other men...

But I agree that you'll be in far less trouble for getting a handjob rather than a BJ or FS.... LOL

GoldfishMan
20-08-2016, 10:02 AM
Good advice Goldfish!! Do MLs do overnighters??

Either way, will try and be selective of the finale next week
That's easy.... Make her a deal she can't refuse. Probably have to handle the logistics yourself, but that should only make the fruit of your labor all the sweeter!

doyouseewhatisee
20-08-2016, 10:37 AM
never given this any thought .. never quit never back down

imaragingbull
20-08-2016, 06:36 PM
never given this any thought .. never quit never back down

Yes, but if you moved to a country which restricted your usual habits!

Anyway, I'd like to think I keep up to date with Sydney's happenings with no temptation in the new city.

Monday & Tuesday should be a good finale regardless!

Don't think I'll overnight a ML session, 5hr part 1?

AHLUNGOR
22-08-2016, 05:25 PM
Which country ??

imaragingbull
22-08-2016, 06:28 PM
Which country ??
USA, Mr DDs!

cato
24-08-2016, 11:07 AM
USA, Mr DDs!

At the end of May this year you mentioned in the overseas threads that you're moving to HK... Did that fall through or did you end up going? and you're moving to the USA now?

That's unfortunate as HK sounds like a punter's dream...

But punting in the US is not that troublesome, it may take a bit of extra effort but if you get the urge, nothing is too much trouble... LOL

AHLUNGOR
24-08-2016, 11:55 AM
USA, Mr DDs!



Ok, that's a different story, but not impossible !

I would imagine you are not going to California or Vegas as those places are not lack of punting opportunities, so which State are you heading if you don't mind sharing ?

imaragingbull
24-08-2016, 04:02 PM
New York.

In my mind, I'm done with it. Sydney was great to me, followed some trusted brother's tips and advice.

Last ML session was lacklustre, but maybe that's what I needed when going overseas.

Yes, I was looking likely to go to HK, but an opportunity can up in New York which I eventually took. Looking forward to it - guess I better just get used to the eye candy instead of the punting.

Thank you all - this is pretty much the raging bull signing off!

Thanks AHL - keep on doing what you do

Mr Bastard
24-08-2016, 06:08 PM
Is That Johnny Farnham

AHLUNGOR
24-08-2016, 06:20 PM
New York City should be a reasonable punting ground - ain't cheap of course!

I've been to New York many years ago on business just a few days, the Chinatown over there was huge, along Canal St just off Broadway, pretty sure I saw some massage signages back then in Chinese. It's one of those older style Chinatown where Cantonese seemed to be the main language, probably overtaken by MLC by now but if I were you, I will definitely check out the local scene if I'm relocating there .

Good luck , farewell and all the best

Cheers

cato
25-08-2016, 02:34 AM
There are lots of punting/escort websites for NYC...

Just be prepared for the girl to 'screen' you (to make sure you're not a cop) when you book her.

Apparently this is how it works... A 'gratuity' as agreed is left in an envelope on the table and is for 'companionship' only.

What happens between consenting adults is not part of the companionship fee (apparently). LOL

Come to think of it... maybe this is a whole lot of trouble compared to sydney...

cato
25-08-2016, 02:42 AM
You should've stuck with HK mate!!! LOL

cuteguy
25-08-2016, 01:25 PM
You should've stuck with HK mate!!! LOL

Wherever you go, there will be places that you can continue to punt but not on the same scale as in Sydney. As for HK, it appears to be a punter's playground with many girls from Indonesia, Philippines, China and other Asian countries looking to make extra money or to go out with guys.

Can guys give up punting permanently? It would be extremely difficult for many because once you have punted during your life, the temptation to give up punting is to difficult to follow through when you have an abundant supply of young Asian girls from overseas studying or working here. In addition, if we didn't have smartphones that provide easy access to sites like Aus99 or Wechat then the urge to checkout shop rosters, read ARs or girls' advertisements would not occur. On the other hand, if we kicked the punting habit out of our lives, we could save a considerable amount of money and put it towards the purchase of a motor vehicle, holidays or expensive designer label goods such as watches, suits or electrical equipment. In the end, there are pros and cons with respect to punting.:cool2:

Pussyhands
25-08-2016, 01:53 PM
Wherever you go, there will be places that you can continue to punt but not on the same scale as in Sydney. As for HK, it appears to be a punter's playground with many girls from Indonesia, Philippines, China and other Asian countries looking to make extra money or to go out with guys.

Can guys give up punting permanently? It would be extremely difficult for many because once you have punted during your life, the temptation to give up punting is to difficult to follow through when you have an abundant supply of young Asian girls from overseas studying or working here. In addition, if we didn't have smartphones that provide easy access to sites like Aus99 or Wechat then the urge to checkout shop rosters, read ARs or girls' advertisements would not occur. On the other hand, if we kicked the punting habit out of our lives, we could save a considerable amount of money and put it towards the purchase of a motor vehicle, holidays or expensive designer label goods such as watches, suits or electrical equipment. In the end, there are pros and cons with respect to punting.:cool2:

I think it's not exactly a habit to give up.

To me it's cost. Punting is infinitely cheaper than trying to "game" / "seduce" girls.

Once gaming girls become on equal dollar value as punting then sign me up to dating girls lol.

Right now any guy with a brain can figure out that punting is the most rewarding thing to do compared to "gaming" girls.

cato
25-08-2016, 02:50 PM
Wherever you go, there will be places that you can continue to punt but not on the same scale as in Sydney. As for HK, it appears to be a punter's playground with many girls from Indonesia, Philippines, China and other Asian countries looking to make extra money or to go out with guys.

Can guys give up punting permanently? It would be extremely difficult for many because once you have punted during your life, the temptation to give up punting is to difficult to follow through when you have an abundant supply of young Asian girls from overseas studying or working here. In addition, if we didn't have smartphones that provide easy access to sites like Aus99 or Wechat then the urge to checkout shop rosters, read ARs or girls' advertisements would not occur. On the other hand, if we kicked the punting habit out of our lives, we could save a considerable amount of money and put it towards the purchase of a motor vehicle, holidays or expensive designer label goods such as watches, suits or electrical equipment. In the end, there are pros and cons with respect to punting.:cool2:

What is all the money in the world and all material possessions worth without lots and lots of sex??

illidanstormrage
26-08-2016, 01:54 AM
I think it's not exactly a habit to give up.

To me it's cost. Punting is infinitely cheaper than trying to "game" / "seduce" girls.

Once gaming girls become on equal dollar value as punting then sign me up to dating girls lol.

Right now any guy with a brain can figure out that punting is the most rewarding thing to do compared to "gaming" girls.

Some prefer the thrill of the chase and the validational aspect opposed to purely transactional nature of prostitution.
Though I even fool myself sometimes because the usually girls I see aren't 'professional sex workers' most are 'normal girls' on a working holiday.

I would consider myself sex addicted. Sometimes I don't even know why I'm punting but men have an inbuilt sex addiction or predilection if you will.

It all depends on the means of the guy we are talking about. Think Charlie Sheen. You give any punter the amount of money Charlie Sheen was making prime Two and a Half Men, he will probably end up fucking himself to death.

I've never really been one to date girls for the past few years it's primarily been punting as the patience to meet girls, date and eventually have sex just hasn't been there.

I'm at the point now where casual sex with young cute girls is still pleasurable OF COURSE... but ultimately quite unfulfilling.

I'm sure many punters are proud of their exploits having had sex with 100+ different girls.

For me it's neither, it is what it is. Where to go from here...

Pussyhands
26-08-2016, 06:41 AM
U know my record was 3 girls in 5 days or so and at the end I swore I could not see another girl for some time. Of cause the urge came back in 3-5 days.

I think guys balls just keeps making the sperm so u have to bust a nut.

I think if u take the concept of punting out of it and imagine urself as a sultan with unlimited girls everyday - any normal guy would be fking like crazy.

I see sex addiction as something that is destroying ur life. Ur not paying ur bills, ur having very risky sex, your basically killing urself from the kind of sex ur having (eating bread and water only, stealing money to go punting - think someone addicted to meth and what they are doing to get high and put sex instead).

I dunno if ur addicted but yeah it's a very strong condition to have....

Maybe u want more than just sex... If it's unfulfilling..
Where to go? Brother u got some soul searching to do only u can answer.

cato
26-08-2016, 12:25 PM
Some prefer the thrill of the chase and the validational aspect opposed to purely transactional nature of prostitution.
Though I even fool myself sometimes because the usually girls I see aren't 'professional sex workers' most are 'normal girls' on a working holiday.

I would consider myself sex addicted. Sometimes I don't even know why I'm punting but men have an inbuilt sex addiction or predilection if you will.

It all depends on the means of the guy we are talking about. Think Charlie Sheen. You give any punter the amount of money Charlie Sheen was making prime Two and a Half Men, he will probably end up fucking himself to death.

I've never really been one to date girls for the past few years it's primarily been punting as the patience to meet girls, date and eventually have sex just hasn't been there.

I'm at the point now where casual sex with young cute girls is still pleasurable OF COURSE... but ultimately quite unfulfilling.

I'm sure many punters are proud of their exploits having had sex with 100+ different girls.

For me it's neither, it is what it is. Where to go from here...


I think it all depends on what sex means to each and every individual... And that can be world's apart!

But people having casual sex and punting should be careful if they're looking for fulfilment or emotional connections.

That can cause more problems than it could possibly solve.

And why taint a perfectly enjoyable experience by looking for things that such a transaction wasn't really designed to deliver...

But as they say... "fair minds may differ"...

illidanstormrage
26-08-2016, 04:14 PM
The point was once you've slept with a lot of different women (paid for or not). Having sex with women isn't the biggest priority or the definitive thing anymore.

I know of guys who have kids or are in relationships that still punt because that is what men do... every healthy man wants to have sex at the very least once a week.

If his wife or partner isn't putting out then he's going to get that need met elsewhere if he has the means or options to do so. A lot of men don't, so they end up having a sexless marriage and certainly resent that fact.

I know there is much to said about looking for love in the wrong places. I'm guilty of that. Everyone is different I guess.


No matter his moral code, a man’s biological drive to sow his seed widely still operates. Men with low notch-counts or low quality girls will never stop feeling that pull towards more/better. Considerable mental energy is put into suppressing this drive and rationalising it away (which is probably a good thing for civilisation). Rollo calls it “making a virtue out of scarcity”. When a player has 100+ YHT notches, this drive is mostly satiated. Just as a man is usually exceptionally clear headed in the ten minutes after sex, a 100+ player is equally clear headed day to day. His ego is already satisfied regarding winning the tingles, so he can see them for what they are – completely unrelated to virtue.

Pussyhands
26-08-2016, 05:06 PM
The point was once you've slept with a lot of different women (paid for or not). Having sex with women isn't the biggest priority or the definitive thing anymore.

I know of guys who have kids or are in relationships that still punt because that is what men do... every healthy man wants to have sex at the very least once a week.

If his wife or partner isn't putting out then he's going to get that need met elsewhere if he has the means or options to do so. A lot of men don't, so they end up having a sexless marriage and certainly resent that fact.

I know there is much to said about looking for love in the wrong places. I'm guilty of that. Everyone is different I guess.

You make very good points. I think today's society women hold on the sex power like a Congo warlord. Total abuse of power. Hence why brothels are booming.

Brothel is a silent equaliser and I am proud to be a part of it.

fjfan
30-08-2016, 03:33 AM
I've recently turned 23 and after an infrequent punting "career" ,that has cost me around $6500 since New Year's Eve 2015, I think I'm going to call it quits. Amongst many reasons there's just too much emptiness at the end of every session which leaves me depressed. I stupidly decided to share these feelings to two service providers who I frequented somewhat regularly who have now unsurprisingly decided to blacklist me. That was probably the straw that broke the camel's back for me.

wilisno
30-08-2016, 12:07 PM
I've recently turned 23 and after an infrequent punting "career" ,that has cost me around $6500 since New Year's Eve 2015, I think I'm going to call it quits. Amongst many reasons there's just too much emptiness at the end of every session which leaves me depressed. I stupidly decided to share these feelings to two service providers who I frequented somewhat regularly who have now unsurprisingly decided to blacklist me. That was probably the straw that broke the camel's back for me.
You probably talked too much and made them depressed too ! ;) ;) ;)

Skippy tasman
30-08-2016, 12:14 PM
I've recently turned 23 and after an infrequent punting "career" ,that has cost me around $6500 since New Year's Eve 2015, I think I'm going to call it quits. Amongst many reasons there's just too much emptiness at the end of every session which leaves me depressed. I stupidly decided to share these feelings to two service providers who I frequented somewhat regularly who have now unsurprisingly decided to blacklist me. That was probably the straw that broke the camel's back for me.

Young man, not sure about your emotional state but feeling down and empty after being with WL or ML is not what its all about.Is it you are after a true girlfriend to connect with personally,if so you won't get it through
paid services.....good luck and cheer up bro

paulgallen
30-08-2016, 01:26 PM
How can they ban u unless you done something wrong ? Go to tinder and get some dates with normal girls

Potluck2.0
30-08-2016, 11:47 PM
I read Allen carrs 'easy way to quit gambling' a few months ago and surprisingly it worked, but too well. I went completely clean from gambling because the book changed my mindset and I saw it for what it was, a dirty addictive habit with no fun at all.

Funny thing was my punting urges mostly disappeared as well. I realised I had a sex addiction which was a coping mechanism for stress or mild anxiety/depression. I've had one HJ and one fuck in 3 months which is a record low. The desire is just not there anymore.

As another brother noted I've had sex with enough women in my life that that part of my ego is satiated. It just doesn't do it for me anymore. Can move on to have time and money for more virtuous pursuits.

The triggers are still there which is why I came here to post but the impulse to act on the trigger is greatly diminished.

CunningLinguist
31-08-2016, 01:30 AM
If you punt do it for the right reason: fun!
If you want a meaningful relationship find a real life girlfriend, then after a while you will enjoy your punting properly ... :)

Pussyhands
31-08-2016, 06:40 AM
I read Allen carrs 'easy way to quit gambling' a few months ago and surprisingly it worked, but too well. I went completely clean from gambling because the book changed my mindset and I saw it for what it was, a dirty addictive habit with no fun at all.

Funny thing was my punting urges mostly disappeared as well. I realised I had a sex addiction which was a coping mechanism for stress or mild anxiety/depression. I've had one HJ and one fuck in 3 months which is a record low. The desire is just not there anymore.

As another brother noted I've had sex with enough women in my life that that part of my ego is satiated. It just doesn't do it for me anymore. Can move on to have time and money for more virtuous pursuits.

The triggers are still there which is why I came here to post but the impulse to act on the trigger is greatly diminished.

I am glad u are able to pursue other things in your life, however I dunno if I would differentiate punting from other more "virtuous" things. I think punting is like anything - going out to fine dining, hanging out with friends etc ...

cato
01-09-2016, 12:04 AM
I am glad u are able to pursue other things in your life, however I dunno if I would differentiate punting from other more "virtuous" things. I think punting is like anything - going out to fine dining, hanging out with friends etc ...

Well said Pussyhands! It's not the activity that defines the person, but the person who defines the activity!

in line with your examples, drinking wine:

For the connoisseur who appreciates fine wine, drinks it in moderation, savours and enjoys every glass - it's a virtuous pursuit.

For the alcoholic, who buys the cheapest cask wine they can find and gulps it down to get drunk and forget about their problems - it's a vice.

They're both drinking wine...

AHLUNGOR
08-09-2016, 08:52 AM
I am happily married with three great kids but I punt almost every day. One hour in $150 shops. I do it because I love having sex with different women ie the chase and you can't beat the high that you get when you connect with the girl and have an amazing session.

Almost every day ? And at $150/hr a shot, I envy you for your physical abilities , financial ableness and free times !

And I assume the days that you don't punt, you are having sex at home ?? Super STUD !!

imaragingbull
15-01-2018, 04:14 AM
Brothers,

Thank you for all of the comments, help, advice and discussion.

Logged in via NYC to see how everything is going back home. Some new places popped up in the last year, but also some familiar faces and names still around a year and a half later!

As expected, things are far tougher here, and it just isn't the same offering as what we have back home. The cost (particularly in large cities) is far greater, and there is a far greater emphasis on FS places.

That being said, I didn't 'retire' completely... that being said, I've only made sporadic trips so far in my time here. 5 visits by my count to various places. I'm happy keeping it this way, it's not necessarily an addiction if I have kept it to this level, but also obviously I have planned to keep this as a fun 'hobby' to relieve stress / relax.

Hope everyone is happy and healthy and are doing well!

Bull of rage!

AHLUNGOR
15-01-2018, 08:35 AM
Brothers,

Thank you for all of the comments, help, advice and discussion.

Logged in via NYC to see how everything is going back home. Some new places popped up in the last year, but also some familiar faces and names still around a year and a half later!

As expected, things are far tougher here, and it just isn't the same offering as what we have back home. The cost (particularly in large cities) is far greater, and there is a far greater emphasis on FS places.

That being said, I didn't 'retire' completely... that being said, I've only made sporadic trips so far in my time here. 5 visits by my count to various places. I'm happy keeping it this way, it's not necessarily an addiction if I have kept it to this level, but also obviously I have planned to keep this as a fun 'hobby' to relieve stress / relax.

Hope everyone is happy and healthy and are doing well!

Bull of rage!

Brother Bull,


Please share some New York City punting scene man, that could be really interesting !

Great to hear from you again.


Cheers

curious36
15-01-2018, 08:38 AM
I am going to stop punting too.
When I am dead no more punting.

wattle
19-01-2018, 05:15 PM
Puntings a very personal thing

If I was in a perfect relationship, where we both have similar sex drive and the attraction can last, then I dont really need punting

However I am single, and I like punting because its life affirming for me

Pretty simple

paddington244
21-01-2018, 09:19 PM
It is like anything do in moderation

BigDickAsian
31-01-2018, 08:16 PM
Brothers,

It's come to a point where it looks as though my (limited) punting career will come to an end. Not necessarily by choice, but due to an overseas move for work where it just doesn't make sense or can't compare to Sydney or other 'friendlier' markets for the customer.

I don't think I'm upset or concerned, even in Sydney visiting a ML recently lost the excitement, even when doing this very infrequently.

Have any brothers managed to do this for a few years? Or finish up for good? I would assume that most posters still punt, or maybe there are some retired punters who lurk?

Thanks to those that contributed during my time, thanks for the advice, thanks for the tips, thanks for all of that.

Of course people go for all different reasons, but I'm sure there are many others who have cut back or even stopped punting completely to pick up other 'hobbies' so to speak

I look forward to going out with one big hurrah!

I got to say, no where in Australia is as good as Sydney for punting.
It's only when you leave Sydney and try other cities that you realise just how lucky we all are to have such young beautiful girls, providing such excellent service and at modest prices!

cuteguy
01-02-2018, 05:38 PM
I got to say, no where in Australia is as good as Sydney for punting.
It's only when you leave Sydney and try other cities that you realise just how lucky we all are to have such young beautiful girls, providing such excellent service and at modest prices!

Yes it is true Sydney is blessed with having many FS and RNT shops with many beautiful girls from different countries however, there is still better value in countries like Thailand and Cambodia. Your money goes further there than here. More choice and less the price.

BigDickAsian
01-02-2018, 08:42 PM
Yes it is true Sydney is blessed with having many FS and RNT shops with many beautiful girls from different countries however, there is still better value in countries like Thailand and Cambodia. Your money goes further there than here. More choice and less the price.
Yes agree with you about your money going further.
but over there I always feel there is a lot more bbfs going on and a lot diseases and therefore riskier.
Plus you don’t get the variety of different nationalities that you can get in Sydney.
What can I say, there’s no place like home!

jason1
09-02-2018, 08:22 PM
i feel safer in Australia than overseas
tourist hotspots overseas with a must see red light district must be the honeypot of STIs
syd doesnt any more have a red light area like it used to years ago, the industry is more spread out
so you dont get every keen tourist going to the same brothels you do

gentleguy
15-03-2018, 12:02 PM
I might be taking a break for awhile now. Been punting atleast once a week for 2 years sometimes twice a week. I have a rough estimate that I have spent around 25k as I usually go for one hour sessions. It seems to have become a habit to go out for a punt on my night off work. Had a couple of dud punts recently too. I'm single so feel it's time to go out more and meet girls that way and if i'm still single just punt every now and then. i'm still pretty young (35). I enjoy punting but sometimes get that empty feeling afterwards.

sublime
15-03-2018, 12:44 PM
As a guy with single life, you are in box seat so enjoy
No need to settle down unless you feel you can be with the lady long term.
To keep your level of patience up, punt for the occasional release

Momoe
15-03-2018, 02:34 PM
Some love punting so much it literally became an addiction. Some after a while would realize its just a fleeting moment of fun. You can punt excessively, or you can do it moderately, your life your decision. I only stopped punting once i found a gf with killer body and skills, so punting money just redirected to keep her happy

sublime
15-03-2018, 02:40 PM
..i found a gf with killer body and skills

Smart also? Punting shelved

CunningLinguist
15-03-2018, 11:21 PM
I have not punted for quite a while now, have had real life GFs instead. In my youth I couldn't wait to have sex now I can enjoy the whole courtship thing. Maybe I have had so much fake GFE that I want the real thing now ... :)

sublime
16-03-2018, 09:36 AM
The entire courtship thing?
Depends what you mean.

The first few months then you get bored.
Or are you in love and courting seriously.

And is this courting one lady or many

I like punting so I dont feel I have to be in a relationship if it doesnt feel right

imaragingbull
25-03-2018, 07:13 AM
Well, the shackles will be broken :) Will report back on a few NYC visits when I can.

Interesting discussion. Even though there is a strength of relationship and bond built, over time and depending on your drive/needs, I'm sure many still have the occasional urge to splurge.

One thing is for sure - NYC has a lot to offer, but it comes at a much different price point to Sydney! Virtually impossible to find the standard offerings at some of the massage shops back home, that is the most disappointing part!

Shoryureppa
25-03-2018, 08:17 PM
Punting is fun & exciting but rather date a girl who's willing to have great sex regularly, saves a lot of $_$ & the sex is infinitely better when she's into you. When a WL with a high amount of positive reviews/one that suits the body type I like comes in, I do try and go out of my way to see her.

gentleguy
09-04-2018, 06:57 PM
4 weeks now without a punt and feel pretty good. It's nice having that extra cash around and think I might by myself a new coffee machine. I think I was going too often usually once a week over a 2 year period.

Niceguy11
09-04-2018, 10:57 PM
Punting itself is fantastic and no doubts I have had many memorable experiences. In saying that, I do miss the true GFE experience with a girl that is truly into me. Don't get me wrong, sex is important in every relationship, but that feeling of holding hands, kissing at spontaneous moments etc better than punting ?

I suppose my point of view is from both sides of the coin. You have to weigh up what is in your best interest moving forward. For me, i'm thinking along the lines of the OP.

BigDipper
10-04-2018, 03:40 PM
I feel I need to retire too.

Spending way too much on this hobby. Before every punt I say it will be my last. After every punt I say I will retire. Then I see something, get that urge and I’m back on this forum... finding new punts. Most I held off for was maybe 2 weeks in the last 4 years.

Weak... I am weak.

BigDickAsian
10-04-2018, 05:38 PM
Wanna quit? I got a sure fire plan.
Punt like crazy in a very short space of time and injure your penis like me and end up with penile trauma and that will bring with it a UTI.
Really making me think twice about punting.


I feel I need to retire too.

Spending way too much on this hobby. Before every punt I say it will be my last. After every punt I say I will retire. Then I see something, get that urge and I’m back on this forum... finding new punts. Most I held off for was maybe 2 weeks in the last 4 years.

Weak... I am weak.

BigDipper
10-04-2018, 06:56 PM
Wanna quit? I got a sure fire plan.
Punt like crazy in a very short space of time and injure your penis like me and end up with penile trauma and that will bring with it a UTI.
Really making me think twice about punting.

Done the punting like crazy before.
5 in just 4 days... but never injured myself.
STD would stop me though...

The key is to ‘want’ to quit.
Not sure I am there yet.

Brothelcreeper
10-04-2018, 07:18 PM
I love punting. I will retire when I die.

Bob Smith
10-04-2018, 07:46 PM
Wanna quit? I got a sure fire plan.
Punt like crazy in a very short space of time and injure your penis like me and end up with penile trauma and that will bring with it a UTI.
Really making me think twice about punting.

WTF is penile trauma?

Roshtosh
10-04-2018, 11:58 PM
In my young carefree days as a single man I punted quite often. Then a huge break when i got married, hadkids etc. But over the last few of years I have punted a few times a year. Lack of action at home with the missus and when I did get it, it wasn't spectacular. It hasn't helped too that my relationship with her hasn't been good either. I have come back to this forum with this new ID looking for tips and reviews. Yeah, a man has his needs.

BigDickAsian
11-04-2018, 10:36 PM
Try 3 punts within 24 hours. At my age that seems to be my physical limit now....and the cause of my penile trauma.
I did manage to get up to 5 punts in 24 hours when I was in my 20s without any injury.


Done the punting like crazy before.
5 in just 4 days... but never injured myself.
STD would stop me though...

The key is to ‘want’ to quit.
Not sure I am there yet.

BigDickAsian
11-04-2018, 10:39 PM
basically it’s like a flesh wound to your urinary tube through too much vigorous sex.
This brings with it the pleasures of pissing razor blades for about 7 days


WTF is penile trauma?

PunterMike
12-04-2018, 02:31 AM
Good luck keeping away...
This is addictive; worse than cigarettes :anger:

PunterMike
12-04-2018, 02:35 AM
I love punting. I will retire when I die.

haha
or when the little bro stops working :P

Bob Smith
12-04-2018, 02:03 PM
basically it’s like a flesh wound to your urinary tube through too much vigorous sex.
This brings with it the pleasures of pissing razor blades for about 7 days

Sounds awful mate. Go easy next time fella!!

You literally fucked your penis up!

BigDickAsian
14-04-2018, 06:18 PM
Sounds awful mate. Go easy next time fella!!

You literally fucked your penis up!
I know I was trying to be Puntergod

Caspri
15-04-2018, 01:30 AM
When they reconfigurated William St part of me died.
I admit i never recovered i am eternally lost.

Caspri
15-04-2018, 01:41 AM
I shouldn't really be so piognant . Nothing stimulant me anymore its like
when u they ban feeding live feeding of animals to pets. Its like a chore.
Or when u go to the zoo and lion is fed a bone. U look at its eyes it needs
to hunt . Its trapped i know how it feels.

Caspri
15-04-2018, 01:52 AM
That's why the most intense relationship are during turmoil like wars or when
its a forbidden relationship. Being there done that and William St had sex where
its not structured like the shops. Its real life experience after a long period of this
type of life it becomes u. U can't separate life from fantasy. I miss the violence , the
cops , drug dealers , trannies and even the junkies.
So basically i'm am truly fucked .

BongKong
15-04-2018, 03:55 AM
That's why the most intense relationship are during turmoil like wars or when
its a forbidden relationship. Being there done that and William St had sex where
its not structured like the shops. Its real life experience after a long period of this
type of life it becomes u. U can't separate life from fantasy. I miss the violence , the
cops , drug dealers , trannies and even the junkies.
So basically i'm am truly fucked .

What about the preggos? You gotta miss that to

Caspri
16-04-2018, 01:11 AM
What about the preggos? You gotta miss that to
I miss the camaraderie. U meet some troubled souls and u bond with them u can't get
from the net or even going to a real brothel or real friends. Some of the back stories are
really very sad so that's why i also stick up for marginalized. Its not like o i want to put
my self through school or buy luxury hand bags. 99 % of people on this forum not be
mean just wouldn't understand.

imaragingbull
04-07-2018, 11:41 PM
So the retirement didn’t last that long. But to be honest, the frequency of visits declined. I wouldn’t have considered myself a frequent punter at the best of times, but now probably only make ~4 or so visits in a year.

New York is tough though... higher price points and the US stance has toughened so the aus99 version of the site that I was using was taken down in April. Imagine what you’d do is aus99 was no longer!

Given this, I can only go for my reliable shops and with the reference site no longer, I find myself looking to log in less and less. Therefore I think about punting less and less.

It’s a tough ask and everyone is different, but I hope you all can find that happy medium of how frequently you can go without impacting your happiness and financial security in the future.

Bull of Rage

bodby
05-07-2018, 12:09 AM
That was a good post bull. Less punts but better quality ones sounds like good thinking. When you read the reviews here at first you want to punt many times a week. But my most memorable punts were when i found one good brothel and certain style of manager, and left each time with my mind blown. Later on I made the mistake of chasing cheap nasty punts where the experience leaves you feel shortchanged
I am more selective now but the overall learning what was good and bad was a fun period

Weapon
05-07-2018, 10:17 AM
So the retirement didn’t last that long. But to be honest, the frequency of visits declined. I wouldn’t have considered myself a frequent punter at the best of times, but now probably only make ~4 or so visits in a year.

Knew you couldn't stop. Four times a year is nothing though.... i'd be surprised if i didn't go 4 times in 10 days. Doctor says i need to do 30 mins of exercise I day so I try.

sambr
09-07-2018, 09:10 PM
I havent been punting for a while and things have probably changed in the world

imaragingbull
17-04-2020, 06:48 AM
How is everyone doing? This shutdown certainly I think will shake up the industry as well as potentially result in some punters retiring for good (whether it is due to economic reasons... or just the time between the ability to visit).

For me, I think it needs to remain a hobby, well in your control and keep the enjoyment there. Writing from NYC where the impact is obviously more accelerated. I think it is going to change things a lot over here... but eventually things might trend back to normal.

Miss the Australian scene at times - Sydney is tremendous when I look back.

Stay safe and healthy!

cplurt2
17-04-2020, 09:02 AM
How is everyone doing? This shutdown certainly I think will shake up the industry as well as potentially result in some punters retiring for good (whether it is due to economic reasons... or just the time between the ability to visit).

For me, I think it needs to remain a hobby, well in your control and keep the enjoyment there. Writing from NYC where the impact is obviously more accelerated. I think it is going to change things a lot over here... but eventually things might trend back to normal.

Miss the Australian scene at times - Sydney is tremendous when I look back.

Stay safe and healthy!

Its definitely been tough, not being able to duck out and take care of aggrivation or being treated like a king for an hour when life's been kicking you in the jimmy. I do miss the asian massage parlour scene in colorado, especially the table shower experience..but nothing beats being here where you dont have to worry about ole LE.

asheton
17-04-2020, 10:26 AM
When you look at it from the anthropological perspective, we are hardwired to propagate the species. This just serves to scratch that itch.

Don't resist it.

The wait is killing me though.

cuteguy
17-04-2020, 02:57 PM
When you look at it from the anthropological perspective, we are hardwired to propagate the species. This just serves to scratch that itch.

Don't resist it.

The wait is killing me though.

Hopefully not too long to wait if infected cases become less everyday. The PM suggested possible easing of restrictions after 4 weeks. Well, 4 weeks won't take long. We're already in mid April and it's amazing how time flies these days.

SexyBoi
17-04-2020, 03:37 PM
Yes but he said the 1.5m distance rule could last for up to a year. I can't see how massage shops
and brothels can open until the rule is dropped

I agree. There will be gradual lifting of restrictions to establishments which does not require proximity between people ie social distancing 1.5 m rule, then ease back to close contact business like massage parlour and brothels. I hope it happens sooner than expected. Can’t wait to bust a nut!

Sabotage
25-04-2020, 05:03 PM
They would be the last I think as they are both physical contact. Like Scomo said the 1.5m rule will most probably stay until there is a vaccine, and that won't be this year. If you don't have a partner or risk and outcall you will be wanking for a long time I think

I hope you are wrong, I can’t wait 8 months!

Hoping for some risk minimising strategies for all businesses including massage.

Ramp up the mass testing and let’s get back to life and especially my punting life.

Anyway, with everything at the moment I cope by just thinking about the next 2 weeks only

cuteguy
25-04-2020, 05:49 PM
I hope you are wrong, I can’t wait 8 months!

Hoping for some risk minimising strategies for all businesses including massage.

Ramp up the mass testing and let’s get back to life and especially my punting life.

Anyway, with everything at the moment I cope by just thinking about the next 2 weeks only

If you can't wait 8 months then there are many girls working behind the scenes and advertising their services on websites like onlyfans and locanto. It appears there are many guys willing to take the chance to go with these girls who are not avoiding physical contact and the 1.5m social distancing rule to make money. In doing so, their actions may expose other people to the virus through community to community transmissions.

imaragingbull
22-05-2021, 04:24 AM
Hi All,

I wanted to send a note, given there is a potential I could be returning to Sydney in the near future. It’s been years overseas and an opportunity is presenting itself to me back home.

Curious as to what the status is of the market back there now? I remember at the time, it was like it was the ‘golden age’ with many great B2B shops. Curious if there has been any major developments or changes on how things are? Honestly, in a way, can’t wait to be back on my ‘home ground’. The US is great, but the scene is lacklustre and certainly lacks value. It’s catered towards FS far more.

Any suggestions for how I should ‘come out of retirement’ when returning to our shores? My favourites back in the day (2013 - 2016) were; SilverFox (RIP I understand...), Masstige 8 (soft spot for that as was one of my first...), Thairepeutic (no frills, but was convenient), one in Pyrmont near the casino... Bamboo Massage in the CBD was a great little spot but I suppose didn’t have a long run?

Hope everyone has been well and I look forward to returning to these boards more frequently when I no longer need to use a VPN to access.

Raging Bull

Thomash
22-05-2021, 10:08 AM
Hi All,

I wanted to send a note, given there is a potential I could be returning to Sydney in the near future. It’s been years overseas and an opportunity is presenting itself to me back home.

Curious as to what the status is of the market back there now? I remember at the time, it was like it was the ‘golden age’ with many great B2B shops. Curious if there has been any major developments or changes on how things are? Honestly, in a way, can’t wait to be back on my ‘home ground’. The US is great, but the scene is lacklustre and certainly lacks value. It’s catered towards FS far more.

Any suggestions for how I should ‘come out of retirement’ when returning to our shores? My favourites back in the day (2013 - 2016) were; SilverFox (RIP I understand...), Masstige 8 (soft spot for that as was one of my first...), Thairepeutic (no frills, but was convenient), one in Pyrmont near the casino... Bamboo Massage in the CBD was a great little spot but I suppose didn’t have a long run?

Hope everyone has been well and I look forward to returning to these boards more frequently when I no longer need to use a VPN to access.

Raging Bull

Hey mate!

On a personal note I think the market isn't very good today. With covid and borders closure in place the overall quality has dropped. They can't replace underperforming girls easily as no new blood is coming in, and some girls it seems have taken advantage of that by starting to provide the minimum possible. There are still few great girls around, but the probability of getting a dud punt has gone up when you walk into a shop blindly. Prices have gone up too.
Overall it should get better once borders open for the quality of girls but I doubt the pricing will come down much.
Stay safe in the USA!

imaragingbull
23-05-2021, 04:07 AM
Thanks Thomash!! Only thing to stay safe from is bad neighbourhoods and the usual violence. I’m vaccinated from COVID, and the vibe in NYC is terrific / optimism and life is coming back to day to day living... which makes me annoyed how poor Australia’s response has been; how are you so insular and shutting borders until mid-2022!!

Anyway, thank you for the above. It is very interesting and not surprising that impact of international students is having on everyone back home. That being said, let me know if PMing would be OK so I can consider my return. I’m really confident that the environment is better than NYC still and i can’t wait to see how it is (compared to 2015/2016 when I last experienced it in Australia.

Stay well everyone!!

rooter
23-05-2021, 11:39 AM
The FS and R&T scene in Sydney is thriving.
It's business as usual and the shops are very busy.
The only difference now is that no new girls are arriving from overseas.
But if you have been away for 5 years then all the girls will be new to you so it doesn't matter to you.

personaa
23-05-2021, 05:00 PM
Not much of variety...punting scene is quite boring these days frankly speaking.

imaragingbull
30-10-2021, 05:04 PM
Fast forward 5 months… it’s happening and I’ll be Back in the country in November, fast approaching

Can’t wait to visit the old shops since I last visited in 2016!!

Warrabong
30-10-2021, 07:00 PM
I retired from punting this weekend. Not sure how long for…

Johnisfun1969
30-10-2021, 08:39 PM
Brothers,

It's come to a point where it looks as though my (limited) punting career will come to an end. Not necessarily by choice, but due to an overseas move for work where it just doesn't make sense or can't compare to Sydney or other 'friendlier' markets for the customer.

I don't think I'm upset or concerned, even in Sydney visiting a ML recently lost the excitement, even when doing this very infrequently.

Have any brothers managed to do this for a few years? Or finish up for good? I would assume that most posters still punt, or maybe there are some retired punters who lurk?

Thanks to those that contributed during my time, thanks for the advice, thanks for the tips, thanks for all of that.

Of course people go for all different reasons, but I'm sure there are many others who have cut back or even stopped punting completely to pick up other 'hobbies' so to speak

I look forward to going out with one big hurrah!

Well my last punt was in Jan 2020. Since then I have not seen a ml or WL. Mainly because of the covid. I have been lurking on this site and have been tempted few times. But the thought of seeing a WL who sees 5-6 guys in a shift maybe more has been off putting along with the thought of lying down on cum filled linen. Yes I have seen working girls just turning over the sheet for the next punt. Some even don’t shower afterwards. But when the itch between the blue balls is too much I will eventually see someone. Well in my case I don’t see punting as a hobby. This is only to need to empty the balls now and then. I only call it taking a break. So don’t agree with going out with a bang. Just go and see your favourite girl as you are going overseas. Something to remember the good times. But otherwise I am not for overnight with WL. I rather have 4-5 different girls than pay one girl to sleep in your bed. However having FFM is worth considering if you want the last punt to be memorable. Good luck to you.

imaragingbull
31-10-2021, 07:30 AM
Thank you, John. I’m actually finally returning from NYC where I have spent the last 5+ years and lived through COVID there. After what we went through there, it doesn’t scare me back in Aus.

Looking forward to returning to Sydney where I think the quality and variety was tremendous. NY and the US is generally overpriced and catered towards a different style of service.

I am very excited to be touching down again soon, though know many of my favourite spots have likely closed or under different management.

AHLUNGOR
31-10-2021, 09:43 AM
Welcome home brother Bull,


Time flies and the RnT scenes in Sydney have taken a pretty hard hit during the pandemic, the multiple lockdowns and depleted talents pool due to closed international borders.

However, since the reopening, things are getting back to normal (just based on the recycling of all current domestic talents!).

My favorite shop QVB is not returning and one of your favorite ML Mimi from Burwood hasn’t been heard since beginning of last year.

As far as shops go, there are two distinct sectors:

The licensed RnT: such as 227 Broadway, sydney baby massage, Diva 43 on Albion (new), Summerville’s at Pyrmont (old shop but now in licensed new venue)

The old timer Caucasian RnT such as Kings Court, 136, all the At Michelle’s etc are still around.

The rest of the RnT shops : shops you would know such as SL, 7 Lotus, Silver Fox (not Foxy anymore), Sussex Star in the CBD are still there. 227 Concord Rd North Strathfield is a good shop these days run by a Hong Kong brother Jayden (my no 1 girl Cherry 🍒 works there), there are 4 shops in a row from 200 to 252 Parramatta road Stanmore, plus the two shops specialised In Prostate massage and Dragon Tendon massage in Renwick Baby (Leichhardt) and it’s new sister shop in Randwick- yes, it’s a bit confusing.

While 227 Broadway is probably the best run and most consistent in services, my current go to shops only left with Yuki on 158 Bondi road (mainly for part 1) and the VIP Pyrmont where I can see either Candy or Susan for best all arounder.

That’s about all I can think of at this moment, other brothers probably can provide more up to date intels.


All the best

Cheers 🍻

imaragingbull
13-11-2021, 10:45 AM
Thank you all. It’s great to see that things are getting back to normal.

Appreciate all of the intel and I’ve been enjoying reading up on other members’ postings in recent times.

Looking forward to touching down shortly for the summer!

The AR guy
14-11-2021, 04:06 AM
Retirement from punting is easy. I've done it many times.

warwick1
14-11-2021, 05:55 AM
Retirement from punting is easy. I've done it numerous times.

Yeah, if your going to retire don't bother announcing it because believe me nobody gives a rat's.........

gonein6
14-11-2021, 12:48 PM
I am just trying to get started