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Hu6e
16-07-2018, 07:01 PM
I want to discuss a couple of issues I have encountered at work. They have been bugging the hell out of me, and I am looking for a few other opinions. If you would be so kind.

I work in a male dominated workplace, with predominantly white and arabic men. I am white myself, early 30's. A few months ago, over lunch, the issue of the recent legalization of gay marriage came up. Everyone around the table said it was abhorrent, a travisty on our nation. and would ultimately lead to underage marriage and rampant paedophilia. Everyone except me was Catholic. Highly devout. I am a militant atheist. I laughed at them all, saying they should stop listening to talkback radio, and proceeded to provide actual facts of countries where legalization occurred and the moral fiber did not cease to exist. And I kinda told them all to fuck off and stop being so ridiculous. If they want to talk to their sky friend, then that is ok, just dont let your beliefs affect my, or anyone else's way of life. Extremely displeased faces grimaced at me. They seemed to be the sort of people with whom an intellectual challenge was a sign of weakness. "Ah fuck off ya gay cunt". Nice.

After this, the demeanor and attitude became, and has become quite toxic. Other people of Asian descent are all labelled as "fucking Chinese". At a recent bbq, some Chinese (with a limited grasp of English), were told "it's ok, come eat, it's not dog! We dont eat dog in Australia!" I swiftly replied "what the fuck man? you cant say that shit you fucking racist cunt!". I was hella burning. Just a few examples of the shitty attitudes I encounter, and find myself defending other races. I could write a book, but just wanted to give a few examples.

Am I being too precious? Or is this type of rhetoric archaic, and provides nothing but negativity to our society?

Or is this too deep for a forum about sexing??

AHLUNGOR
16-07-2018, 07:26 PM
Do your company not have anything employees handbook which outlined all the general rules and regulation and codes of conducts in the work place ?

Things like this usually come from the top, you have a senior manager or director you can talk to ? Or they are the worst ?

sambr
16-07-2018, 07:40 PM
Follow the old bartenders rule: avoid discussing religion and politics

Add to that: avoid talking about peoples sexuality.

Someones sexuality is noone's business as long as it isnt with animals or minors

You punched a hornets nest. No good will ever come from that

liminal
16-07-2018, 08:18 PM
your thinking is spot on ... language and it’s use, in this instance within the workplace and for those putting out the opinions can run the clear risk of been heavily sanctioned.

However it does take seriious energies and needs to be supported right up the line. Otherwise the person who raises and wants the issue managed as per workplace and ‘general’ community standards may be hung out to dry.

There’s plenty of lousy language used on this and other non punting forums. Plenty of poor language and attitude everywhere that demeans gender, race culture.

Bottom line not acceptable. That said I know in certain peer social situations I have been within a corrosive discourse . You cringe , say little or nothing. So guilty as charged .

My one take - don’t retaliate , with anger and equivalence, be reasoned, hold back on the profanity . Make it clear not on .

If you can’t get the boys to shut it, and see the issues, By all means record the incident(s) as it occurs and drop it in the HR managers lap

It is not in anyway enjoyable to be run down humiliated and the subject of sustained abuse.

Guess for all the fellas who may say come on , fair crack of the whip n all that .. apply the same test to your dearest and deeply loved ones .. for some that may well be the appendage.

rooter
16-07-2018, 08:33 PM
You are in your 30s and you only just realised that people are racist, homophobic, and misogynist?
This is the reality of life, of society, of existence.
You have learnt an important lesson.
You are a much wiser man now.
Next lesson ... people are also greedy, selfish, violent, narcissistic, ignorant, cowardly, corrupt, insecure, crazy, cruel.
You have to accept that reality.
But don't despair ... next lesson ... people are also beautiful, intelligent, compassionate, understanding, heroic, virtuous, kind, loving, intelligent, ... you just have to open up your heart, breath deeply, stretch into your favourite asana and absorb the beauty of the universe, then metabalise it, and radiate it for everyone to share ... Enjoy!

quackm2002
16-07-2018, 08:41 PM
So well said Rooter


You are in your 30s and you only just realised that people are racist, homophobic, and misogynist?
This is the reality of life, of society, of existence.
You have learnt an important lesson.
You are a much wiser man now.
Next lesson ... people are also greedy, selfish, violent, narcissistic, ignorant, cowardly, corrupt, insecure, crazy, cruel.
You have to accept that reality.
But don't despair ... next lesson ... people are also beautiful, intelligent, compassionate, understanding, heroic, virtuous, kind, loving, intelligent, ... you just have to open up your heart, breath deeply, stretch into your favourite asana and absorb the beauty of the universe, then metabalise it, and radiate it for everyone to share ... Enjoy!

krnboy
16-07-2018, 08:56 PM
I want to discuss a couple of issues I have encountered at work. They have been bugging the hell out of me, and I am looking for a few other opinions. If you would be so kind.

I work in a male dominated workplace, with predominantly white and arabic men. I am white myself, early 30's. A few months ago, over lunch, the issue of the recent legalization of gay marriage came up. Everyone around the table said it was abhorrent, a travisty on our nation. and would ultimately lead to underage marriage and rampant paedophilia. Everyone except me was Catholic. Highly devout. I am a militant atheist. I laughed at them all, saying they should stop listening to talkback radio, and proceeded to provide actual facts of countries where legalization occurred and the moral fiber did not cease to exist. And I kinda told them all to fuck off and stop being so ridiculous. If they want to talk to their sky friend, then that is ok, just dont let your beliefs affect my, or anyone else's way of life. Extremely displeased faces grimaced at me. They seemed to be the sort of people with whom an intellectual challenge was a sign of weakness. "Ah fuck off ya gay cunt". Nice.

After this, the demeanor and attitude became, and has become quite toxic. Other people of Asian descent are all labelled as "fucking Chinese". At a recent bbq, some Chinese (with a limited grasp of English), were told "it's ok, come eat, it's not dog! We dont eat dog in Australia!" I swiftly replied "what the fuck man? you cant say that shit you fucking racist cunt!". I was hella burning. Just a few examples of the shitty attitudes I encounter, and find myself defending other races. I could write a book, but just wanted to give a few examples.

Am I being too precious? Or is this type of rhetoric archaic, and provides nothing but negativity to our society?

Or is this too deep for a forum about sexing??

I love to bag you out with your WLs taking taking pictures of your cock 🤣 but on a serious note man - https://youtu.be/3d8NthEFWow

If you can spare just 20mins, watch this short video. Religion plays a huge role on how we think about homos. If people here think its a bit too deep, you can hit me up via PM man anytime

krnboy
16-07-2018, 09:02 PM
You are in your 30s and you only just realised that people are racist, homophobic, and misogynist?
This is the reality of life, of society, of existence.
You have learnt an important lesson.
You are a much wiser man now.
Next lesson ... people are also greedy, selfish, violent, narcissistic, ignorant, cowardly, corrupt, insecure, crazy, cruel.
You have to accept that reality.
But don't despair ... next lesson ... people are also beautiful, intelligent, compassionate, understanding, heroic, virtuous, kind, loving, intelligent, ... you just have to open up your heart, breath deeply, stretch into your favourite asana and absorb the beauty of the universe, then metabalise it, and radiate it for everyone to share ... Enjoy!

Well said mr rooter

corvus
16-07-2018, 10:22 PM
Huge, there are uneducated idiots everywhere and are like weeds in a garden. Let them be, their views and behaviour will cost them in one way or another.

cmk76
16-07-2018, 10:51 PM
I want to discuss a couple of issues I have encountered at work. They have been bugging the hell out of me, and I am looking for a few other opinions. If you would be so kind.

I work in a male dominated workplace, with predominantly white and arabic men. I am white myself, early 30's. A few months ago, over lunch, the issue of the recent legalization of gay marriage came up. Everyone around the table said it was abhorrent, a travisty on our nation. and would ultimately lead to underage marriage and rampant paedophilia. Everyone except me was Catholic. Highly devout. I am a militant atheist. I laughed at them all, saying they should stop listening to talkback radio, and proceeded to provide actual facts of countries where legalization occurred and the moral fiber did not cease to exist. And I kinda told them all to fuck off and stop being so ridiculous. If they want to talk to their sky friend, then that is ok, just dont let your beliefs affect my, or anyone else's way of life. Extremely displeased faces grimaced at me. They seemed to be the sort of people with whom an intellectual challenge was a sign of weakness. "Ah fuck off ya gay cunt". Nice.

After this, the demeanor and attitude became, and has become quite toxic. Other people of Asian descent are all labelled as "fucking Chinese". At a recent bbq, some Chinese (with a limited grasp of English), were told "it's ok, come eat, it's not dog! We dont eat dog in Australia!" I swiftly replied "what the fuck man? you cant say that shit you fucking racist cunt!". I was hella burning. Just a few examples of the shitty attitudes I encounter, and find myself defending other races. I could write a book, but just wanted to give a few examples.

Am I being too precious? Or is this type of rhetoric archaic, and provides nothing but negativity to our society?

Or is this too deep for a forum about sexing??

...predominantly white and arabic men. Hmmm... Are you all tradesmen? Where's Beta when you need him? He'll tell you what he thinks of Arabs. He writes some funny, hateful shit. From my experience, 'middle eastern' men are not so partial to homosexuality, especially the 'Catholics'.

"it's ok, come eat, it's not dog! We dont eat dog in Australia!" For every time I have heard this line and given a dollar, I would be a millionaire. When asked, I tell people I'm not Asian, I'm fucking Chinese, and proud of it. In all of my 30 years living here, from time to time, I do come across this same ol' joke. I grew up in school with wogs, lebos, skips, nips, gooks and every other denomination that was thrown in with me in the early 90's. I had to grow a thick skin, put up with a few jibes, gave a lebo a bloody nose, just to make a point that I wasn't going to tolerate this nonsense...

What you're doing is admirable, sticking up for them, but... they will need to stick up for themselves one day, and deal with the racism one way or another... It's inherently everywhere. Honestly, I am guilty of it too at times and have been intolerant to mainland Chinese. Except the ML's... I'm nice to them...

Lastly, dog meat. If you ever try it, make sure it's black. I tried this in Vietnam, with a couple of Japanese backpackers. I can't say the steam versioned was very appetizing. But, the soupy brothy kind is yummo! Especially the drumsticks...

liminal
16-07-2018, 11:41 PM
...predominantly white and arabic men. Hmmm... Are you all tradesmen? Where's Beta when you need him? He'll tell you what he thinks of Arabs. He writes some funny, hateful shit. From my experience, 'middle eastern' men are not so partial to homosexuality, especially the 'Catholics'.

"it's ok, come eat, it's not dog! We dont eat dog in Australia!" For every time I have heard this line and given a dollar, I would be a millionaire. When asked, I tell people I'm not Asian, I'm fucking Chinese, and proud of it. In all of my 30 years living here, from time to time, I do come across this same ol' joke. I grew up in school with wogs, lebos, skips, nips, gooks and every other denomination that was thrown in with me in the early 90's. I had to grow a thick skin, put up with a few jibes, gave a lebo a bloody nose, just to make a point that I wasn't going to tolerate this nonsense...

What you're doing is admirable, sticking up for them, but... they will need to stick up for themselves one day, and deal with the racism one way or another... It's inherently everywhere. Honestly, I am guilty of it too at times and have been intolerant to mainland Chinese. Except the ML's... I'm nice to them...

Lastly, dog meat. If you ever try it, make sure it's black. I tried this in Vietnam, with a couple of Japanese backpackers. I can't say the steam versioned was very appetizing. But, the soupy brothy kind is yummo! Especially the drumsticks...

The drumsticks just how large are they...I was offered to be taken t eat dog meat by friends family last trip to nth Vietnam this year , just couldn’t bring myself to do so... happily eat a horse however

Philip
17-07-2018, 12:51 AM
sounds like you work with trump supporters

CunningLinguist
17-07-2018, 01:17 AM
I want to discuss a couple of issues I have encountered at work. They have been bugging the hell out of me, and I am looking for a few other opinions. If you would be so kind.

I work in a male dominated workplace, with predominantly white and arabic men. I am white myself, early 30's. A few months ago, over lunch, the issue of the recent legalization of gay marriage came up. Everyone around the table said it was abhorrent, a travisty on our nation. and would ultimately lead to underage marriage and rampant paedophilia. Everyone except me was Catholic. Highly devout. I am a militant atheist. I laughed at them all, saying they should stop listening to talkback radio, and proceeded to provide actual facts of countries where legalization occurred and the moral fiber did not cease to exist. And I kinda told them all to fuck off and stop being so ridiculous. If they want to talk to their sky friend, then that is ok, just dont let your beliefs affect my, or anyone else's way of life. Extremely displeased faces grimaced at me. They seemed to be the sort of people with whom an intellectual challenge was a sign of weakness. "Ah fuck off ya gay cunt". Nice.

After this, the demeanor and attitude became, and has become quite toxic. Other people of Asian descent are all labelled as "fucking Chinese". At a recent bbq, some Chinese (with a limited grasp of English), were told "it's ok, come eat, it's not dog! We dont eat dog in Australia!" I swiftly replied "what the fuck man? you cant say that shit you fucking racist cunt!". I was hella burning. Just a few examples of the shitty attitudes I encounter, and find myself defending other races. I could write a book, but just wanted to give a few examples.

Am I being too precious? Or is this type of rhetoric archaic, and provides nothing but negativity to our society?

Or is this too deep for a forum about sexing??

Good on you for calling them out, but probably best to find another job and work with decent people as the chances of re-educating these morons would be quite small.

Hu6e
17-07-2018, 06:07 AM
Thanks for the input brothers.
Its abit shit, because now I have been ostracized by the whole team. I eat lunch by myself, never get asked to go for drinks at the end of the working week, and pretty much get looked down upon. But if it's a choice between being one of the boys, or simply being a decent human.... I will take decency over pseudo friendships any day.
I do work with tradesmen, and I work as part of a multi billion dollar company, Australian owned. The funny thing about that, the racial discrimination stops when a client or developer comes by, and is of an Asian appearance. Very funny that.
My vulgar anguage is one of the only ways that I can communicate with these Neanderthals.
Do I work with trump supporters, yes, absolutely. They dont deny it, and are proud of him and the good work he is doing in America and around the world. They truly make me sick sometimes.
I would try dog meat. Shit, I've eaten raw chicken blood and rice in the rainforests of Thailand. I've had whale, raw chicken (judori, its really good) and smoked horse tongue in Japan. I've eaten heaps of weird shit. I would totally eat some dog.
I love Lawrence Krauss man! Richard Dawkins, Stephen Hitchens, Bill Nye and Neil DeGrass Tyson... all my favourite speakers. I can go to sleep listening to NDGT talking about the universe.

I wish I could let these comments and attitudes just go, and be at peace with the fact that others will always have opposing views. But I'll be fucked if i let these small minded plebs, discriminate anyone based upon race or sexual orientation. I love all Asians, especially Asian ladies. I have many friends who are gay or transexual. I couldn't live with myself if I didn't take a stand and say "No, that's wrong".

Thanks again, it refreshing to know I am not alone with this issue.

quackm2002
17-07-2018, 08:58 AM
The issue here is one of differing values and an absolute belief that one’s view is the right view: you disagree with me, I am right, ergo, that makes you a fool.

That applies on both sides of the equation and never the twain shall meet. Trying to get your colleagues to change their views is as likely as getting you to change yours. Back in time, you’d have settled your differences with swords so at least one view prevails!

The NRA in the USA have the absolute conviction that guns don’t kill people; people kill people and free access to semi-automatic weapons is not the issue. We think they are fools but they have an absolute belief in the right to bear arms at any cost.

The Chinese are focussed on physical extraterritoriality. The US are focussed on legal extraterritoriality. They both criticise the other when the reality is they are both imposing their will on the rest of the world because they are big and ugly. Try to convince one that what they are doing is wrong or what the other is doing is right!

I could go on and on.

Welcome to the human race!

The Speechwriter
17-07-2018, 09:05 AM
cmk76 — your dog meat line is gold. Thank you.

“Make sure it’s black.”

Love it.

Hu6e — never argue with a fool.

bigeasy
17-07-2018, 02:41 PM
I want to discuss a couple of issues I have encountered at work. They have been bugging the hell out of me, and I am looking for a few other opinions. If you would be so kind.

I work in a male dominated workplace, with predominantly white and arabic men. I am white myself, early 30's. A few months ago, over lunch, the issue of the recent legalization of gay marriage came up. Everyone around the table said it was abhorrent, a travisty on our nation. and would ultimately lead to underage marriage and rampant paedophilia. Everyone except me was Catholic. Highly devout. I am a militant atheist. I laughed at them all, saying they should stop listening to talkback radio, and proceeded to provide actual facts of countries where legalization occurred and the moral fiber did not cease to exist. And I kinda told them all to fuck off and stop being so ridiculous. If they want to talk to their sky friend, then that is ok, just dont let your beliefs affect my, or anyone else's way of life. Extremely displeased faces grimaced at me. They seemed to be the sort of people with whom an intellectual challenge was a sign of weakness. "Ah fuck off ya gay cunt". Nice.

After this, the demeanor and attitude became, and has become quite toxic. Other people of Asian descent are all labelled as "fucking Chinese". At a recent bbq, some Chinese (with a limited grasp of English), were told "it's ok, come eat, it's not dog! We dont eat dog in Australia!" I swiftly replied "what the fuck man? you cant say that shit you fucking racist cunt!". I was hella burning. Just a few examples of the shitty attitudes I encounter, and find myself defending other races. I could write a book, but just wanted to give a few examples.

Am I being too precious? Or is this type of rhetoric archaic, and provides nothing but negativity to our society?

Or is this too deep for a forum about sexing??

So you laugh at their views and tell them to fuck off and then complain when they reply in kind. You both deserve each other

asiafever
29-07-2018, 08:20 PM
Thanks for the input brothers.
Its abit shit, because now I have been ostracized by the whole team. I eat lunch by myself, never get asked to go for drinks at the end of the working week, and pretty much get looked down upon. But if it's a choice between being one of the boys, or simply being a decent human.... I will take decency over pseudo friendships any day.
I do work with tradesmen, and I work as part of a multi billion dollar company, Australian owned. The funny thing about that, the racial discrimination stops when a client or developer comes by, and is of an Asian appearance. Very funny that.
My vulgar anguage is one of the only ways that I can communicate with these Neanderthals.
Do I work with trump supporters, yes, absolutely. They dont deny it, and are proud of him and the good work he is doing in America and around the world. They truly make me sick sometimes.
I would try dog meat. Shit, I've eaten raw chicken blood and rice in the rainforests of Thailand. I've had whale, raw chicken (judori, its really good) and smoked horse tongue in Japan. I've eaten heaps of weird shit. I would totally eat some dog.
I love Lawrence Krauss man! Richard Dawkins, Stephen Hitchens, Bill Nye and Neil DeGrass Tyson... all my favourite speakers. I can go to sleep listening to NDGT talking about the universe.

I wish I could let these comments and attitudes just go, and be at peace with the fact that others will always have opposing views. But I'll be fucked if i let these small minded plebs, discriminate anyone based upon race or sexual orientation. I love all Asians, especially Asian ladies. I have many friends who are gay or transexual. I couldn't live with myself if I didn't take a stand and say "No, that's wrong".

Thanks again, it refreshing to know I am not alone with this issue.

The struggle is real.
As a secular atheist living in The Hills I find myself constantly at odds with people. My daughter attends public school and is in non-scripture/ethics. The idea we in this day and age should waste precious education time and resources on religious instruction infuriates me. If you want to learn about your religion, sign up for a religious education institution or attend your place of worship, public school should be secular.
Anyhow, one day without consulting me the school took her from ethics to a Hillsong sponsored play about Baby Jesus. I was furious. Now Little Princess decided long ago the whole religion thing was a bit of bullshit without any help from me. She described it as being like "the tooth fairy for adults ". I was not worried about them converting her, just the audacity they had to try it on. Had they taken a Catholic kid and made them sit through a lecture by Christopher Hitchens (may he rest in peace) on exactly how we know so much of the bible is bullshit and there would have been a lynching.

So short answer, people don't like you messing with their ignorance and prejudices. Fuck em, yeah you're being ostracised because of it but perhaps it has made just one of them think. If that's the case, if just one alters their behaviour because of it and maybe tones down the racism, homophobia etc then it's worth it...

Shoryureppa
29-07-2018, 09:24 PM
The only question I have to ask is.... was it worth it?

I'm sure you had the foresight to know what would happen with your comment.

You told them to "fuck off and stop being ridiculous" nobody I know would respond well to that. There are definitely more effective ways to state your opinion.

studsg
29-07-2018, 09:59 PM
Thanks for the input brothers.
Its abit shit, because now I have been ostracized by the whole team. I eat lunch by myself, never get asked to go for drinks at the end of the working week, and pretty much get looked down upon. But if it's a choice between being one of the boys, or simply being a decent human.... I will take decency over pseudo friendships any day.
I do work with tradesmen, and I work as part of a multi billion dollar company, Australian owned. The funny thing about that, the racial discrimination stops when a client or developer comes by, and is of an Asian appearance. Very funny that.
My vulgar anguage is one of the only ways that I can communicate with these Neanderthals.
Do I work with trump supporters, yes, absolutely. They dont deny it, and are proud of him and the good work he is doing in America and around the world. They truly make me sick sometimes.
I would try dog meat. Shit, I've eaten raw chicken blood and rice in the rainforests of Thailand. I've had whale, raw chicken (judori, its really good) and smoked horse tongue in Japan. I've eaten heaps of weird shit. I would totally eat some dog.
I love Lawrence Krauss man! Richard Dawkins, Stephen Hitchens, Bill Nye and Neil DeGrass Tyson... all my favourite speakers. I can go to sleep listening to NDGT talking about the universe.

I wish I could let these comments and attitudes just go, and be at peace with the fact that others will always have opposing views. But I'll be fucked if i let these small minded plebs, discriminate anyone based upon race or sexual orientation. I love all Asians, especially Asian ladies. I have many friends who are gay or transexual. I couldn't live with myself if I didn't take a stand and say "No, that's wrong".

Thanks again, it refreshing to know I am not alone with this issue.100% with you there bro Hu6e.

Everything starts with one person. You may find as one continuously stands up to racist dimwits, other like minded people who may have been too scared would start standing up too.

CunningLinguist
29-07-2018, 10:23 PM
Good on you for calling them out, but probably best to find another job and work with decent people as the chances of re-educating these morons would be quite small.

That was my initial response to this thread as I agreed with the sentiment, and ignored the language.
However now that I re-read the post with the benefit of knowing that Hu6e is a smart-arse-dumb-fuck I see he has perfectly summarised himself, LOL!


I am a militant atheist. I laughed at them all
...
And I kinda told them all to fuck off and stop being so ridiculous.
...
Extremely displeased faces grimaced at me.
...
They seemed to be the sort of people with whom an intellectual challenge was a sign of weakness
...
I swiftly replied "what the fuck man? you cant say that shit you fucking racist cunt!".
..
Am I being too precious?

studsg
29-07-2018, 10:47 PM
The struggle is real.
As a secular atheist living in The Hills I find myself constantly at odds with people. My daughter attends public school and is in non-scripture/ethics. The idea we in this day and age should waste precious education time and resources on religious instruction infuriates me. If you want to learn about your religion, sign up for a religious education institution or attend your place of worship, public school should be secular.
Anyhow, one day without consulting me the school took her from ethics to a Hillsong sponsored play about Baby Jesus. I was furious. Now Little Princess decided long ago the whole religion thing was a bit of bullshit without any help from me. She described it as being like "the tooth fairy for adults ". I was not worried about them converting her, just the audacity they had to try it on. Had they taken a Catholic kid and made them sit through a lecture by Christopher Hitchens (may he rest in peace) on exactly how we know so much of the bible is bullshit and there would have been a lynching.

So short answer, people don't like you messing with their ignorance and prejudices. Fuck em, yeah you're being ostracised because of it but perhaps it has made just one of them think. If that's the case, if just one alters their behaviour because of it and maybe tones down the racism, homophobia etc then it's worth it...Absolutely, public schools should be 100% secular, if people want a religious education, there are plenty of churches, mosques, temples, etc around for them to send their kids for proper religious classes.

And our govt should stop spending public funds on religious schools. Instead those funds could be better used to improve the infrastructure, facilities, course materials and even public teachers salaries in our public schools. But that would be too logical an ask for our govt [emoji14]

suka02
30-07-2018, 12:47 AM
whoever is gay here he is in the wrong page 😆

Nejums
30-07-2018, 02:38 AM
Mate you're in your 30s. You should know better than to discuss politics and religion.

I'm willing to bet those guys are all closet homos since they seem to be a little too vocal about their opinions. That's usually the case anyway. Suppressed homosexuality manifests itself into angry outbursts.

I'd look for another job if I were you. No point working in such a toxic environment.

Targayayuka
31-07-2018, 01:15 AM
https://i.imgur.com/HEOJs.gif

rooter
31-07-2018, 01:34 AM
Homo sapiens are interesting creatures.

Hu6e
31-07-2018, 07:30 PM
I'll get back to ya'll now...
Targayayuka, that's the exact gif I thought of when I wrote this thread.
Nejums, I see your point. But it shits me how 2 faced they are. When a big money Asian investor comes by, they are all smiles and friendly. I am nice to everyone, from the cleaner to the owner of the building. It's a well paid job, with no university or trade qualification. I make more than tradesmen.
studsg, yes I totally agree. State and religion should be separate.
CunningLinguist, the wisest words that have ever been spoken in this forum were "never argue with a fool". I'm going to take that advice in respect to everything you ever say.
studsg, thanks mate. It's good to be supported, and not told to ignore it.
Shoryureppa, I regret nothing. You may not agree with the terminology, but that's how these cretins speak. Every second word is cunt or fuck or fucking cunt.
asiafever, your daughter is a smart kid. And you are right on the money, i agree with you on everything.
bigeasy, ok, no worries then.
The Speechwriter, you are a smart person.
quackm2002, yeah, you are also right. My blind belief that I am simply right, is just as arrogant as their attitudes. And there will never be a middle ground. Sunni and Shia muslims are a prime example. Protestants and Catholics in Ireland, I am sure there are many more examples throughout history.

God Member
19-08-2018, 06:52 PM
So, like, I rock along to see the latest MI movie and before it I saw a trailer for a new movie called "Crazy Rich Asians."

Two points:

Firstly, good to see some asian glamours up on the big screen in a suburban multiplex. Not just on a video rack in Chinatown. Short of the very occasional appearance of Michelle Yeoh (I think I last saw her in Ridley Scott's Prometheus) or Joan Chen you just never see them in a general release film. And that was a while ago and both of them are getting on now.

Secondly, why does "Asians" have to be referenced at all in the title? It makes me cringe on behalf of fellow whites that the movie producers think we need to be carefully forewarned before forking over ticket money. The movie is about crazy rich people doing crazy rich things, with no doubt some specific cultural humour thrown in for Christ's sake.

You'd never have a movie title called "Crazy Rich Whites" or "Crazy Rich Blacks." They might just get away with "Crazy Rich Africa-American People of Colour" if they could fit it all on the ***king screen that is. If those examples seem stupid to you, what they have dished up with this movie's title is just as stupid. :grimace:

rockbreaker
19-08-2018, 07:01 PM
----------------------------------------removing---

kase
19-08-2018, 07:02 PM
Nice movie title

Crusader
19-08-2018, 09:55 PM
I want to discuss a couple of issues I have encountered at work. They have been bugging the hell out of me, and I am looking for a few other opinions. If you would be so kind.

I work in a male dominated workplace, with predominantly white and arabic men. I am white myself, early 30's. A few months ago, over lunch, the issue of the recent legalization of gay marriage came up. Everyone around the table said it was abhorrent, a travisty on our nation. and would ultimately lead to underage marriage and rampant paedophilia. Everyone except me was Catholic. Highly devout. I am a militant atheist. I laughed at them all, saying they should stop listening to talkback radio, and proceeded to provide actual facts of countries where legalization occurred and the moral fiber did not cease to exist. And I kinda told them all to fuck off and stop being so ridiculous. If they want to talk to their sky friend, then that is ok, just dont let your beliefs affect my, or anyone else's way of life. Extremely displeased faces grimaced at me. They seemed to be the sort of people with whom an intellectual challenge was a sign of weakness. "Ah fuck off ya gay cunt". Nice.

After this, the demeanor and attitude became, and has become quite toxic. Other people of Asian descent are all labelled as "fucking Chinese". At a recent bbq, some Chinese (with a limited grasp of English), were told "it's ok, come eat, it's not dog! We dont eat dog in Australia!" I swiftly replied "what the fuck man? you cant say that shit you fucking racist cunt!". I was hella burning. Just a few examples of the shitty attitudes I encounter, and find myself defending other races. I could write a book, but just wanted to give a few examples.

Am I being too precious? Or is this type of rhetoric archaic, and provides nothing but negativity to our society?

Or is this too deep for a forum about sexing??

The hypocrisy of perceived moral superiority ...

Uses group identities or labels (white, arab and catholic) to try and demonstrate shortcomings and inferiority ...
The natural way that statement was constructed shows that there is an element of your subconscious that is actually discriminative.
Believe it or not, there are many others that aren't white, straight or catholic who didn't support the same sex marriage plebiscite.
Sometimes its not always what you say that speaks volumes, its how its said and the motives behind it.

You dismiss and downplay their expressed morals as something of the quality of talkback radio and their beliefs in a sky friend. Who are you to do that?
Just another righteous cunt on this forum that is paying for a root or the odd post massage wristy?
<sarcasm>Of course you can cast judgement with a clear conscience, especially if you have a "significant other".</sarcasm>

The idiots cracked a joke about eating dog ... When I was working in South Korea and in Vietnam, finding dog on the menu wasn't a hard task at all.
So the fact that eating dog is somewhat offensive to you when its rooted in actual fact, whether you eat it or not, is a sign of virtue signalling.
To quote Ben Shapiro, "facts don't care about your feelings" ...

You call yourself a militant atheist like it is some badge of honour, so its pretty safe to assume you'd fit in well in the ranks of ANTIFA;
The bulk of which are largely too stupid to understand why its morally wrong to get "militant" against those they don't ideologically or philosophically agree with.

This world needs to harden the fuck up and get on with it.
What happened to whatever doesn't kill me, makes me stronger?
No every cunt is looking for a reason to be offended ...

abovetherim
20-08-2018, 01:19 AM
Hu9e I salute u.

God Member
20-08-2018, 04:21 PM
^ Woh -- that's all too heavy to post on a cruisy Sunday night.

God Member
20-08-2018, 04:32 PM
Not sure why people think it’s a non-pc title. The book of the same name was written by an Asian guy who said that his intention in writing the novel was to "introduce a contemporary Asia to a North American audience” and it was directed by an Asian guy. It’s specifically about a part of Asian culture being shown to a larger audience.


I get it now, the title has a history in a book that was written. You wouldn't want to change the brand for the movie. But that only takes us back one step - the book was called by that title.

To sum up therefore, commercially it is the best title to have (I reluctantly concede) but I'm right about being disappointed that it has to be this way, at least for the present. Yes, it would be good to get more Chinese / Japanese movies into the mainstream screens and so this could be a start. Comedies especially! You know, like the King of Mahjong :shout: Yes, it is the asian ladies I want look at on the big screen - that is an entertainment in itself.

This has just made me recall that a young Joan Chen had to play the daughter of a Native American chieftain in a Steven Seagal film. I suppose close enough was good enough. Not! :miao:

Crusader
20-08-2018, 10:47 PM
^ Woh -- that's all too heavy to post on a cruisy Sunday night.

Yeah mate .... I'm due a punt

studsg
20-08-2018, 10:57 PM
My 2 cents is why bother to read too much into a movie ?

It's a movie based on a story of the name, using cultural angles as context to entertain its audience. If its enjoyable and entertaining... awesome, enjoy it, that's it.

I mean there are online forums debating why superman is cast as a white dude and why not black. I mean seriously, I just enjoy the story, da comic, the movie... are we in da era of trying to be overly politically correct ?

Idurian
21-08-2018, 08:48 AM
I want to discuss a couple of issues I have encountered at work. They have been bugging the hell out of me, and I am looking for a few other opinions. If you would be so kind.

I work in a male dominated workplace, with predominantly white and arabic men. I am white myself, early 30's. A few months ago, over lunch, the issue of the recent legalization of gay marriage came up. Everyone around the table said it was abhorrent, a travisty on our nation. and would ultimately lead to underage marriage and rampant paedophilia. Everyone except me was Catholic. Highly devout. I am a militant atheist. I laughed at them all, saying they should stop listening to talkback radio, and proceeded to provide actual facts of countries where legalization occurred and the moral fiber did not cease to exist. And I kinda told them all to fuck off and stop being so ridiculous. If they want to talk to their sky friend, then that is ok, just dont let your beliefs affect my, or anyone else's way of life. Extremely displeased faces grimaced at me. They seemed to be the sort of people with whom an intellectual challenge was a sign of weakness. "Ah fuck off ya gay cunt". Nice.

After this, the demeanor and attitude became, and has become quite toxic. Other people of Asian descent are all labelled as "fucking Chinese". At a recent bbq, some Chinese (with a limited grasp of English), were told "it's ok, come eat, it's not dog! We dont eat dog in Australia!" I swiftly replied "what the fuck man? you cant say that shit you fucking racist cunt!". I was hella burning. Just a few examples of the shitty attitudes I encounter, and find myself defending other races. I could write a book, but just wanted to give a few examples.

Am I being too precious? Or is this type of rhetoric archaic, and provides nothing but negativity to our society?

Or is this too deep for a forum about sexing??

Ideally this type of behaviour shouldn't exist in this day and age but it does. You could have used another method to show your disposition to the topic by either changing the topic or not making a comment.

As they are your colleagues and they would have assumed anything said at lunch wouldn't be judged upon, also to change someone's mind you shouldn't be insulting them when one feels insulted it's an endless cycle of insults.

God Member
21-08-2018, 04:54 PM
Crazy Rich Honkies is much better!:shout: (I think the movie is set there.)

A black Superman? That would be pretty cool. Not such a big leap either, there has been a black Iron Man for years.

I'm not PC, I laugh at the likes of Mahatma Cote. (I wish he was still advertising "Sydney City Toyota!") It was just my gut reaction to the trailer. :D I guess I'll have to go see it now and review. :D :D

b00bs
21-08-2018, 05:20 PM
They're not honkies, they're Singaporean. Judging by the trailer I think it's set in New York/ Singapore. Ordinary chick meets guy at uni.

Turns out his family are the richest property developers in Singapore, hence the title Crazy Rich Asians. family don't approve of girl. Blah blah blah.. bet there will be heaps of Asian stereotype jokes ... Yawn. I might stream it on Netflix though.

rooter
21-08-2018, 11:08 PM
Redneck racist crackers are repulsive ... but so are preachy liberals taking the high moral ground.