Not excited about punting

[zucon]

Guys, strange situation. Looks like I have lost the enthusiasm and eagerness to punt🤨.

Hold on hear me out, I am still sexually active but i don't feel like paying for sex and I don't get excited about hooking up a working girl anymore.

I think this is because last year I travelled to Phillipines, Thailand and Indonesia. While these are punting heaven's, but on all occasions I managed to get free one night stands with girls who I am still in touch, some did it casually and are still friends and some still waiting saying they love me and let's settle. Some were pretty some were average

Sex was different with them, more intimate more passionate and there was never clock watching. Some wanted it just once and just cuddle whole night and some were just crazy and wanted it all day n night. Some moan loud and some just hold it. No fake noise no fake contractions

After experiencing this I kind of feel like spending even 150 is like a hit to my pocket to get a fuck
Recently I have switched to rnt and enjoy the happy endings but somehow I don't feel like going to a Fs shop

Not sure if anyone else on the same boat, it's odd as I did enjoyed punting before and suddenly my view has changed, I think I am retiring Fs, do most end up like this ? Not sure

Just thought of sharing.

[rooter]

Bro, what you were doing in the Philippines, Thailand, and Indonesia is very similar to punting.
They are poor 3rd World countries and the girls were having sex with you because you are from a rich first world country.
Nothing wrong with that.
It actually makes sense to save your money instead of punting in Australia and go to one of these countries and fuck lots of girls like crazy for a few weeks.

[Byron2001]

Sounds like you're burnt out. Take a rest and save your money.

I did it in reverse to you. I use to go to Thailand and had some absolutely amazing experiences there. But after awhile you kind of get sick of it really. You want abit of emotional attachment to go with the sex to spice it up. But you soon discover that woman are woman and they have their own agenda's, after awhile its draining. I also had enough of sleeping with single mothers in Thailand. When I discovered the scene in Sydney it was just wonderful to see real young girls without all the baggage.

Funny I feel abit burnt out myself. I feel like I'm spoiled and I just want more and want it perfect. Plus its burnt a big hole in my budget. I shiver to think how much I spent. Thinking of cutting back severely maybe just once a month...

[sukeong]

I think what you are missing from paying to bang prostitutes and getting from sleeping with other women is the emotional intimacy and connection. You are not gonna get that from women you pay to penetrate them. That much is clear.

[zucon]

Thanks guys for your thoughts, yes I think it's the emotional thing and intimacy, plus as rooter said it's also same as punting just that I don't pay for sex upfront but for sure those girls sleep with other foreign men I'm sure and yea I do take them to dinners n all.

Agree with Byron I do feel I spent a lot on WL to a point I would punt at least twice a week and it affects your pocket rather I buy cheap tickets to overseas where I meet the girl and it's like hanging out with a gf with no commitment.

[BlackToad]

So... on a related and important topic - Zucon do you have any tips on how to get one night stands / casual relationships with girls whilst traveling in SE Asia? What was your approach?

[DoMoSan]

Give punting a rest for a while if you can. Once you are refreshed it will be new and exciting for you again. Too much of a good thing would wear out the excitement.

[zucon]

@blacktoad

Haha, approach is quite simple.

Option 1. Meet online - WeChat or tinder or other dating site. Talk like for a few days and see if she wants to date you. Date the girl and what happens after date is your luck. I been quite lucky with most dates the girl was ok to come to my room and then it's your art with how you approach. Obviously she need to give you hint it's ok. Never push, respect the girl. Be ready for rejection

Option 2. Meet girls at coffee shop or malls, try to approach and be decent. If she hands out her contact, see if she can make it for coffee or dinner and then take it from there

You definitely need some skills with how you approach and be ready for rejection. Afterall it has to be mutual. I made a few contacts like this and I see them again, some think it's dating while some accept it's just casual.

You got to be sensitive to their feelings and if you see a girl getting too personal don't hookup as she may be thinking of long term and if you are not into that don't do it to her. Never play with a girls feeling.

Look at it this way - regardless in Asia or Australia how many of your dates ended up in a mutual fun over the night and still didn't turned into relationship. That will give you an idea. Stick to basics

[zucon]

Give punting a rest for a while if you can. Once you are refreshed it will be new and exciting for you again. Too much of a good thing would wear out the excitement.

Yes, no more FS unless I feel a need which I don't. Exploring Rnt and reading a lot of Alhungor posts

[Yougottabe]

I only go ML lately. If the girl wants to take it a step further all well & good. I usually wait for the tax refund or bonus & I might splurge at Ginza or visit an escort but it’s only once or twice a year.

[BlackToad]

@blacktoad

Haha, approach is quite simple.

Option 1. Meet online - WeChat or tinder or other dating site. Talk like for a few days and see if she wants to date you. Date the girl and what happens after date is your luck. I been quite lucky with most dates the girl was ok to come to my room and then it's your art with how you approach. Obviously she need to give you hint it's ok. Never push, respect the girl. Be ready for rejection

Option 2. Meet girls at coffee shop or malls, try to approach and be decent. If she hands out her contact, see if she can make it for coffee or dinner and then take it from there

You definitely need some skills with how you approach and be ready for rejection. Afterall it has to be mutual. I made a few contacts like this and I see them again, some think it's dating while some accept it's just casual.

You got to be sensitive to their feelings and if you see a girl getting too personal don't hookup as she may be thinking of long term and if you are not into that don't do it to her. Never play with a girls feeling.

Look at it this way - regardless in Asia or Australia how many of your dates ended up in a mutual fun over the night and still didn't turned into relationship. That will give you an idea. Stick to basics

Thanks for the tips Zucon. Yeah, never playing with the girl’s feelings is good advice. That can bite you in the arse if you are not careful (and not in the good way [emoji2])

[triedforonce]

I found the excitement to get extra without have to pay it (i know its YMMV) is the core excitement for me to go RNT. Of course you can get all the extra you want at FS, but no challenge at all for that, you don't need to show your charm, no chit chat, and the girl just give you the routine.

I haven't had FS a lot, but i can't find the GFE feeling in FS compare to RNT.

i think just my experience...

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[aussiegaigin]

So... on a related and important topic - Zucon do you have any tips on how to get one night stands / casual relationships with girls whilst traveling in SE Asia? What was your approach?

There are plenty of dating/hook up apps where you can find eager girls on line before you even arrive. Consensus is that you should not do this more than a couple of days before, because the girls have short interest spans. Use WeChat when you get there to find "girls nearby" or they find you. Use international sex guide forums to find more hints for the areas you will be visiting.

[Raybo]

I don't really know but I reckon if you get tired of or lose interest in punting you would eventually get tired of one night stands and casual hookups

As for the cash, you could potentially end up spending more on dinner, drinks and sometimes hotels.......

[thaifetish]

Just take a year off punting and try NOFAP

[Kogey]

Just take a year off punting and try NOFAP

A year nofap... might as well join a monastery

[zucon]

I don't really know but I reckon if you get tired of or lose interest in punting you would eventually get tired of one night stands and casual hookups

As for the cash, you could potentially end up spending more on dinner, drinks and sometimes hotels.......

Agree and it's more out of pocket
International tickets , dinner dates , sometimes gifts
Actually it's a sugar daddy arrangement haha in some cases 🤣
You are right i may get sick of it soon and who knows back to punting but for now rnt serves the purpose

[zucon]

A year nofap... might as well join a monastery

Haha lmao I don't wanna go there

[gentleguy]

Went to thailand last year and cant wait to go back. Maybe vietnam next time.

bar fine 1000 baht $45
take girl out for the night We went to a few other bars then got some food
take her back to hotel for the night (guest friendly or some have joiner fees 500 baht)
wake up together give her 2000 baht ($90)

Not a bad night out I must say.

Freelancers can be a littler more risky. Just make sure to lock up all your valubles in safety deposit box to be on the safe side.

[Kogey]

Went to thailand last year and cant wait to go back. Maybe vietnam next time.

bar fine 1000 baht $45
take girl out for the night We went to a few other bars then got some food
take her back to hotel for the night (guest friendly or some have joiner fees 500 baht)
wake up together give her 2000 baht ($90)

Not a bad night out I must say.

Freelancers can be a littler more risky. Just make sure to lock up all your valubles in safety deposit box to be on the safe side.

I found that its cheaper overseas for long stay, but more expensive than here for short stay. Is that right?

[cuteguy]

I found that its cheaper overseas for long stay, but more expensive than here for short stay. Is that right?

Everything overseas appears to be cheaper than here. I mean taking a girl out from her bar or club. However, it's cheaper here since you don't pay for the airfare, accommodation and other expenses when holidaying overseas.

[rooter]

I found that its cheaper overseas for long stay, but more expensive than here for short stay. Is that right?

Yeah, well you have to go for 2 weeks or more for it to be economically viable.
If you stay for a month or two then it's as cheap as fuck!
Lets say you go for 2 weeks and fly economy and stay in a nice 3 or 4 star hotel then you are starting off $2000 down.
If you get a cheap flight and stay at a cheap hotel then sure you can do it for $1200 or even less.
Food and drink? Let's ignore that. That evens out. Food and drink is much cheaper over there but you are always eating out as opposed to cooking and eating at home in Sydney so it kind of evens out.
So you have to make up that $2000 deficit.
That's not easy!
If you punt at $150 shops in Sydney that's 13 x 1 hour punts in Sydney.
If you punt in $250 shops then that's 8 x 1 hour punts in Sydney.
So basically to make it worthwhile financially you have to stay a long time and punt a lot while you are there.
But if you can get a really cheap flight and stay at cheap hotels then it definitely will be much cheaper over there, especially if you stay a long time.

[BigDickAsian]

Yeah, well you have to go for 2 weeks or more for it to be economically viable.
If you stay for a month or two then it's as cheap as fuck!
Lets say you go for 2 weeks and fly economy and stay in a nice 3 or 4 star hotel then you are starting off $2000 down.
If you get a cheap flight and stay at a cheap hotel then sure you can do it for $1200 or even less.
Food and drink? Let's ignore that. That evens out. Food and drink is much cheaper over there but you are always eating out as opposed to cooking and eating at home in Sydney so it kind of evens out.
So you have to make up that $2000 deficit.
That's not easy!
If you punt at $150 shops in Sydney that's 13 x 1 hour punts in Sydney.
If you punt in $250 shops then that's 8 x 1 hour punts in Sydney.
So basically to make it worthwhile financially you have to stay a long time and punt a lot while you are there.
But if you can get a really cheap flight and stay at cheap hotels then it definitely will be much cheaper over there, especially if you stay a long time.

Very good analysis rooter!
I came to this conclusion as well.
The only real alternative is to work FIFO in some WA mine and live in Thailand while you earn AUD.
Now that’s living!

[RoyalFlush]

@blacktoad

Haha, approach is quite simple.

Option 1. Meet online - WeChat or tinder or other dating site. Talk like for a few days and see if she wants to date you. Date the girl and what happens after date is your luck. I been quite lucky with most dates the girl was ok to come to my room and then it's your art with how you approach. Obviously she need to give you hint it's ok. Never push, respect the girl. Be ready for rejection

Option 2. Meet girls at coffee shop or malls, try to approach and be decent. If she hands out her contact, see if she can make it for coffee or dinner and then take it from there

You definitely need some skills with how you approach and be ready for rejection. Afterall it has to be mutual. I made a few contacts like this and I see them again, some think it's dating while some accept it's just casual.

You got to be sensitive to their feelings and if you see a girl getting too personal don't hookup as she may be thinking of long term and if you are not into that don't do it to her. Never play with a girls feeling.

Look at it this way - regardless in Asia or Australia how many of your dates ended up in a mutual fun over the night and still didn't turned into relationship. That will give you an idea. Stick to basics


Zucon,
I am like you, I started off with punting, then pick up real girls. It would be good to hear a different viewpoint from guys who pick up, because it is a totally different game to punting. Personally, I do it because I like the challenge, the memories stick longer, and it's the ultimate testament to your sexual power as a man. But sometimes you put effort into getting a girl, then she turns out to have quality issues like terrible body, too hairy down there, small boobs - hate it when that happens.

I face the challenge of having to pretend to be a "normal" person when talking to ordinary people, because you realise 99% of the people you meet don't understand you and even approve your way of life. But do I care about what they think? haha..

And to add Option 3: instant dates/same day lays.

[cuteguy]

Why not pack your bags and do some missionary work in some third world countries? At least you will forget about punting and spending money on WLs. You will be doing a good deed for these poor people.

[rooter]

Very good analysis rooter!
I came to this conclusion as well.
The only real alternative is to work FIFO in some WA mine and live in Thailand while you earn AUD.
Now that’s living!

Thanks bro.
Yeah its just basic economics 101

[hyperultra]

I came straight from work, had a punt after paying basics and tip. More where extras were offered for another $50, but I had no more in my wallet. Manager said I could pay with EPTPOS at end. At the end at the door manager rings up $75 on the EPTPOS machine.
I sorta had to go ahead, extra was good!

Silly mistake, bring all the cash with you on the day

But that left bad taste in my mouth for punting

[cuteguy]

I came straight from work, had a punt after paying basics and tip. More where extras were offered for another $50, but I had no more in my wallet. Manager said I could pay with EPTPOS at end. At the end at the door manager rings up $75 on the EPTPOS machine.
I sorta had to go ahead, extra was good!

Silly mistake, bring all the cash with you on the day

But that left bad taste in my mouth for punting

Cash is best remember this!:slobber:

[DoMoSan]

If you were married.. I believe this would never be an option. Cash Money. Especially when punting

[kln]

Interesting topic.

I am never a pickup sort of person as I am married, normally get to the point approach. Visit a shop, pay, finish and walk out, that's it.

I can't be bothered to do the fishing part, just walk into a fish n chips shop and order what I want. Yeah if you do the fishing part, the fish is fresh compared to any fish n chips shop.

For those who are still single, enjoy while you can.

[hyperultra]

I can't be bothered to do the fishing part, just walk into a fish n chips shop and order what I want. Yeah if you do the fishing part, the fish is fresh compared to any fish n chips shop.

For those who are still single, enjoy while you can.

This is so true

[fluffstatic]

Same. Now I generally only go for massage/nuru + HJ/BJ.

[hyperultra]

There are plenty of dating/hook up apps where you can find eager girls on line before you even arrive. Consensus is that you should not do this more than a couple of days before, because the girls have short interest spans. Use WeChat when you get there to find "girls nearby" or they find you. Use international sex guide forums to find more hints for the areas you will be visiting.

I didnt realise that but you put it in words. Definitely short attention. I put it down to two reasons: most women are being chatted up by many guys online (ratio 1 woman to 10 men on these dating sites). Also women are looking to date 1-2 men with the best photos, not dating lots of different men at once. Like a goldfish, unless you get their attention early you wont get a second chance. And if you dont meet their standard, dont take it personal, but you will be ghosted

[hyperultra]

When you are single you can enjoy the best of both worlds. No need to shut out options from life
You can waste a lot of time on the dating merrygo round, being friendzoned at times.
Sometimes you also date women you have no interest in seeing longterm, really just for the chase. But you waste a lot of time, knowing that you will have to dump her soon anyway.
Instead, you can stop that quest, dont waste time on somwone who isnt ideal for you, and punt occasionally until a better lady comes along.
And often we get into bad relationships because we want the sex, and dont move on quickly enough
Dating can also leave you with blue balls in the courtshop phase, when the woman is still deciding how serious she wants to be.
So punting is the cure for the blue balls, and stops you getting frustrated or wasting time when dating