Reality of the industry

[Niceguy11]

Last night I went and visited a regular Chinese WL. It is always good seeing her as the sex is always 100% and just a great time ! She recently went to Melbourne which I thought was a holiday but she told me it was for work (private booking). I asked her how it was and she said not good. I'm guessing something didn't go to plan either due to rough sex or more than one punter was involved (group sex). She also told me that she saw a high number of clients in one day which i was like WTF. After she told me, I really felt sorry for her and could tell she was physically and emotionally drained as after we had sex, she was just lying on the bed.

After I left the shop, I was thinking about not only my regular but all the girls that work in the industry. I guess after what she told me, it really got me thinking about not only the good punters but the bad punters that treat the girls badly. I have heard horror stories from punters literally pounding the girls pussies on drugs for hours and hours on end and eventually the WL is crying from pain. I know this has been raised before in the forum but yeah, its all fun but in reality, some aspects of punting are not good.

[xboyx]

as much as you and we have sympathy for her, she knew that already and still signed up for it and will still sign up for it next time, cuz the money is good and easy and she's willing to trade. that's also another reality.

[Niceguy11]

as much as you and we have sympathy for her, she knew that already and still signed up for it and will still sign up for it next time, cuz the money is good and easy and she's willing to trade. that's also another reality.

100% agree with you xboyx.

[woods23]

Never listen to thier stories is none of your business.
You're there for a good time..life is stressful as it is.

[hyperultra]

Never listen to thier stories is none of your business.
You're there for a good time..life is stressful as it is.

I find it a disadvantage when I can speak the ladies language. You waste time chatting about life. Small chat is fine. But long chat is something Im not paying for. As a result the lovemaking has to be shorter. Im not paying for conversation
But reality is many men are lonely and need the chat as well.

Just be mindful if you are one of those men who dont need the chat, dont lose focus on why you are paying your money. Dont get sidetracked about talking about your or her problems. Can really derail a good time
Sometimes I pretend I dont speak her language, so our time together focuses on the physical

[suka02]

nothing is smooth & easy in this world. When you have no other choice have to accept the unexpected. It is a risk but i would suggest to leave the industry. Same thing for us, when we work if it’s too hard to handle for your body or mind, find another job but whe you need the money you must sacrifice whatever you got. There is always a goal in each person how much you can earn & gain then leave job. just a matter when is the right time.

[Lostinblonde]

i agree, dont listen to the shit, its reality so is our money which we traded ourselves for, so fair enough.

[dotcumdotinyou]

Its great that you have empathy for the physical and emotional well being of another human, but the reality is its the path she chose for herself. There are no bars on the windows or doors, she's free to stop this and choose another career direction any time she feels. But the lure of the dollar is stronger to her than her own well being.

Don't dwell on the situations the girls put themselves in it'll only give you unwanted stress.

[liminal]

The reality is every cock in her pussy whether you think you are a good bad indifferent punter . Is exactly that another cock

And all you have done is make her feel more tired and pained ... maybe

Either don’t gild the lily or give up the punt

[Niceguy11]

Yep, definitely hearing what you guys are saying.

[PervySage]

Yep, definitely hearing what you guys are saying.

Reality is some girls might have a difficult story but most are great at BS and playing games.

Treat the girls with repect and enjoy your time but don't be naive.

[Niceguy11]

Reality is some girls might have a difficult story but most are great at BS and playing games.

Treat the girls with repect and enjoy your time but don't be naive.

Of course, it's always a great time despite knowing the reality. I guess it just comes down to not dwelling on the negatives and just enjoying the punt or session. Despite chatting to my regular about the reality, the punt has always been good. Of course if she is tired or is a bit sore, I'm more than happy to compromise if that makes sense. I know shes working and I'm paying to have sex, but at the same time not putting her in a position where I'm pounding away knowing it is hurting her if that makes sense.

[cuteguy]

You can feel sorry for WLs because they come across bad and rough customers in their line of work but they continue to work. No one is forcing them to work. It's their choice. I've heard these WLs say many times "this is my job, I need the money". They want to work and men need somewhere to drop their loads. Don't worry too much about them Niceguy11. Play safe and enjoy the punting.:slobber:

[Niceguy11]

You can feel sorry for WLs because they come across bad and rough customers in their line of work but they continue to work. No one is forcing them to work. It's their choice. I've heard these WLs say many times "this is my job, I need the money". They want to work and men need somewhere to drop their loads. Don't worry too much about them Niceguy11. Play safe and enjoy the punting.:slobber:

Thanks heaps man.

[niva321]

I was curious about this and searched some articles. The reality is, there's so many forms of sex being traded for money that it is impossible to generalize experiences of sex workers.

[cuteguy]

I was curious about this and searched some articles. The reality is, there's so many forms of sex being traded for money that it is impossible to generalize experiences of sex workers.

I heard from some girls who provide BDSM services that they love their jobs because they are in control and make the customer be their slaves or have them subjected to humiliation at their own cost. :shout:

[Brothelcreeper]

Tough job but huge financial rewards

That is the trade off for selling your pussy

Think of it this way, think of all the people slogging their guts out in factories, cleaning jobs, working in cafes, looking after people with disabilities, carers wiping people’s arses etc,

They work 50 hours a week and after tax would probably bring home $700.

Decent WL can earn that in one day.

Don’t feel sorry for them. It is their choice.

Every WL could work somewhere else in a different industry even if their English is poor but they choose to sell their pussies for gold.

[Climax598]

One wl recenty return to China to buy an apartment. She only work at 12 in the West for 16 months.

[krnboy]

Last night I went and visited a regular Chinese WL. It is always good seeing her as the sex is always 100% and just a great time ! She recently went to Melbourne which I thought was a holiday but she told me it was for work (private booking). I asked her how it was and she said not good. I'm guessing something didn't go to plan either due to rough sex or more than one punter was involved (group sex). She also told me that she saw a high number of clients in one day which i was like WTF. After she told me, I really felt sorry for her and could tell she was physically and emotionally drained as after we had sex, she was just lying on the bed.

After I left the shop, I was thinking about not only my regular but all the girls that work in the industry. I guess after what she told me, it really got me thinking about not only the good punters but the bad punters that treat the girls badly. I have heard horror stories from punters literally pounding the girls pussies on drugs for hours and hours on end and eventually the WL is crying from pain. I know this has been raised before in the forum but yeah, its all fun but in reality, some aspects of punting are not good.

You're a nice guy but don't fall into that trap. Like any industry such as customer service, you will have good customers and bad customers.

WL knows what she got into. Time heals all

[AHLUNGOR]

One wl recenty return to China to buy an apartment. She only work at 12 in the West for 16 months.

It’s totally possible :

Say she works 20 days a month x 16 months = 320 days x $1,000 a day give and take , can earn around $300K in that period !

That’s more than $1.4 million yuans, if she is Not buying in the capital cities like Shanghai or Beijing , can easily pay for an apartment in cash !

Smart girl !

[liminal]

Today Talking with a 26 yr old Thai woman I regularly see in Bkk , Told me she was going to Dubai Sunday .

Hoping up make 3,000,000 baht in 3 months - six days a week potentially 24 hours a day , if required by shop owner.

When finally told me the hourly rate approx 50 Oz


I did some quick maths for her and said I’m hoping the tips are good as you’ll be having to service approx 3,000 men to make that money .

She was less than happy thinking it was similar to her Oz experience . Hard work though pays, at some cost

[BuryYourDead]

Last night I went and visited a regular Chinese WL. It is always good seeing her as the sex is always 100% and just a great time ! She recently went to Melbourne which I thought was a holiday but she told me it was for work (private booking). I asked her how it was and she said not good. I'm guessing something didn't go to plan either due to rough sex or more than one punter was involved (group sex). She also told me that she saw a high number of clients in one day which i was like WTF. After she told me, I really felt sorry for her and could tell she was physically and emotionally drained as after we had sex, she was just lying on the bed.

After I left the shop, I was thinking about not only my regular but all the girls that work in the industry. I guess after what she told me, it really got me thinking about not only the good punters but the bad punters that treat the girls badly. I have heard horror stories from punters literally pounding the girls pussies on drugs for hours and hours on end and eventually the WL is crying from pain. I know this has been raised before in the forum but yeah, its all fun but in reality, some aspects of punting are not good.

A wise man once said... "Life is brutal"

But you bet your as that these ladies are all about the Benjamin's.

I once saw a WL, and I was only her second customer. Ever.
She left the industry after my session
I in no way intentionally hurt or abused her.
And I did not get banned from the shop either.
I am not fat, ugly, old, smelly, aggressive... or any of the myriad of negative actions that other punters engage in.
I did eventually find out why she left after seeing me, from the papasan. He was adamant it wasn't anything to do with me, but I still had pangs of guilt for a period of time.

After that, I decided to not engage too much into the lives and struggles of these ladies.

[Pussyhands]

I haven’t heard of girls telling me getting pounded too hard, I was told they got numbing cream they use when doing long hours

Maybe you can tell ur regular to get that

[liminal]

A wise man once said... "Life is brutal"

But you bet your as that these ladies are all about the Benjamin's.

I once saw a WL, and I was only her second customer. Ever.
She left the industry after my session
I in no way intentionally hurt or abused her.
And I did not get banned from the shop either.
I am not fat, ugly, old, smelly, aggressive... or any of the myriad of negative actions that other punters engage in.
I did eventually find out why she left after seeing me, from the papasan. He was adamant it wasn't anything to do with me, but I still had pangs of guilt for a period of time.

After that, I decided to not engage too much into the lives and struggles of these ladies.

Why did she ?.....

[BuryYourDead]

Why did she ?.....

Messaged you mate.

[massageaddict]

Today Talking with a 26 yr old Thai woman I regularly see in Bkk , Told me she was going to Dubai Sunday .

Hoping up make 3,000,000 baht in 3 months - six days a week potentially 24 hours a day , if required by shop owner.

When finally told me the hourly rate approx 50 Oz


I did some quick maths for her and said I’m hoping the tips are good as you’ll be having to service approx 3,000 men to make that money .

She was less than happy thinking it was similar to her Oz experience . Hard work though pays, at some cost

Not sure about the Dubai market but I though they would be paid more as so many rich customer.

Anyway the market is more complex than than that. In times when girls are in short supply. Services and quality goes down per dollar you pay across the industry.

When girls are in goods supply like the last few years. we are seeing better quality and services across the broad.

[hyperultra]

When girls are in goods supply like the last few years. we are seeing better quality and services across the broad.

We have many Asian countries, with populations over 50 million to our north.
Sydney parlours and brothels have a lot of countries to tap into with recruiting.
Sydney offers a safe and reliable city for young women to make good money.

If/when the $A picks up again in value, the punting scene will get an even better range of quality choice of ladies

[Macbeth_oz]

It’s a brutal life but it pays well. If they are smart they make the money and move on. A WL told me you either end up addicted to the sex or you hate it

[liminal]

Not sure about the Dubai market but I though they would be paid more as so many rich customer.

Anyway the market is more complex than than that. In times when girls are in short supply. Services and quality goes down per dollar you pay across the industry.

When girls are in goods supply like the last few years. we are seeing better quality and services across the broad.

From experience, WL/ml’s are not paid better as they are in a wealthier country . They may if lucky receive a more generous tip from a customer we. However the shop is not.

Of course there are exceptions to this however we are then not talking standard ml/wl that most encounter in their daily punt rituals in and around the sydney environs,

the worker, when going into certain countries whether they are sex workers, or live in maids etc not always, but can find themselves at a disadvantage or in quite difficult circumstance

Though Don’t kid yourselves all the bad shit you read about occurring overseas happens here.

Though mostly workers in Australia are and, if they are working hard and are Popular, for their time here enjoy relatively good conditions treatment and remuneration

Though I don’t think the market is that complicated. Sydney - NSW got it luckier than many other state territories in Oz.

Laws re: sex workers and businesses and immigration imo make it a little more complex.

Supply demand pretty simple.

[des888]

BuryYourDead you’ve lost the plot mate lol

[alethios]

What about the High End Aussie private escorts? They are charging 500-1000/hour and seem to be living like Queens based on their twitter...and enjoying it?

[BuryYourDead]

BuryYourDead you’ve lost the plot mate lol

Yeah, you are not wrong mate.

I just finished watching an undercover documentary on the UAE.
Infuriating to say the least.
Absolutely savage the way they treat those poor women. Many of whom are simply seeking a better roll of the dice, in this messed up world.

[liminal]

Yeah, you are not wrong mate.

I just finished watching an undercover documentary on the UAE.
Infuriating to say the least.
Absolutely savage the way they treat those poor women. Many of whom are simply seeking a better roll of the dice, in this messed up world.

What’s the doco called

[BuryYourDead]

What’s the doco called

My bad, not UAE but Saudi Arabia..
https://youtu.be/pqdDl-B2mUk

[annintofu]

for me the reality is i've got limited time & money, so the girl has to provide superior value that justifies the session.

listening to her sad story isn't what I paid for.

[Niceguy11]

Yeah I spoke to a few regulars about the industry. In a nut shell, they are aware of the risks involved with private work and seeing bad clients in shops.

I'm not sure if the thread is still up, but I think it was talking about if you would fuck you or something along those lines. A forum member commented that he saw two fat unhygienic dudes leaving Ginza (don't quote me I might be wrong) and thought "how could the girls possibly fuck them".

The point I'm trying to make is that the girls have to have sex with all sorts of guys even the ones that treat them bad and I mean very bad. I know they have entered the industry to make money and I guess agree to fuck anyone, but there is a lot of assholes that treat them like shit. I try not to think about it too much since posting my thread, but its hard once you start thinking about it.

[Brothelcreeper]

Yeah I spoke to a few regulars about the industry. In a nut shell, they are aware of the risks involved with private work and seeing bad clients in shops.

I'm not sure if the thread is still up, but I think it was talking about if you would fuck you or something along those lines. A forum member commented that he saw two fat unhygienic dudes leaving Ginza (don't quote me I might be wrong) and thought "how could the girls possibly fuck them".

The point I'm trying to make is that the girls have to have sex with all sorts of guys even the ones that treat them bad and I mean very bad. I know they have entered the industry to make money and I guess agree to fuck anyone, but there is a lot of assholes that treat them like shit. I try not to think about it too much since posting my thread, but its hard once you start thinking about it.

You can’t worry about all the bad shit in the world.

There are lots of people to feel sorry for - disabled, blind, poor, starving, families whose children have been murdered etc etc etc

Life is both good and bad.

That’s the way it is.

[Niceguy11]

You can’t worry about all the bad shit in the world.

There are lots of people to feel sorry for - disabled, blind, poor, starving, families whose children have been murdered etc etc etc

Life is both good and bad.

That’s the way it is.

Definitely true BC. It's a good point you make. Will certainly keep that in mind moving forward.

[cuteguy]

Definitely true BC. It's a good point you make. Will certainly keep that in mind moving forward.

We can't all be like Mother Theresa who devoted her life to helping the poor and needy in India. The main thing is to have a meaningful life by looking after yourself and focusing on your personal and financial health. You have one life so ENJOY IT!:smile:

[murphy]

And try not to add any sadness to other peoples lives