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Lostinblonde
01-09-2019, 08:42 PM
Ok so I think I may need to seek for some help:

I have been punting for a while now and like most of you guys, sometimes have some special feelings towards one or two ML or even WL and got their numbers.

I know it’s pretty stupid that anyone would treat such connection serious especially at the beginning of my punting path I was deeply scarred by a ML who I actually treated seriously but apparently didn’t end well.

How do you guys keep emotionally or mentally disconnected with such connection or feeling? I feel guilty to be honest towards my family but cannot pull out.

rooter
01-09-2019, 08:50 PM
As a punter you have to have the same mind set as a WL.
Actually I reckon I am even more WL than a WL.
You have to learn how to switch on and switch off and you have to learn that it's all about the moment, the instant, beyond the instant, the transcendence of time, eternity is not a long time, eternity is the transcendence of time.
You give everything to the instant and the here and now.
Nothing else exists, It's all about the here and now.
I approach every girl like she is the first girl I ever met, I have the butterflies in the stomach, the nervous excitement, and when I am with her she is the only only girl who ever existed in the history of the universe and space and time, she is mine and i am hers, and when we say goodbye that's it, it's done and that instant I spent with her exists for all eternity ... and that's it.

hyperultra
01-09-2019, 08:51 PM
Punting is unhealthy if you are looking for emotional attachment from the women

They are simply earning money, and the vast majority are not looking for a relationship with you

Dont know your age, but if you are young and single you need to start strengthening your pickup and dating skills in your personal life

If you are attached and unhappy, you wont find emotional fulfilment with punting.

Sex is a natural function. Enjoy the sex, pay, and leave, as so many have said

Dont think you can get your emotional needs met for very long with any one working lady. They see you as weak for having to pay for sex. They never would have to pay for sex

hyperultra
01-09-2019, 09:20 PM
As a punter you have to have the same mind set as a WL.
Actually I reckon I am even more WL than a WL.
You have to learn how to switch on and switch off and you have to learn that it's all about the moment, the instant, beyond the instant, the transcendence of time, eternity is not a long time, eternity is the transcendence of time.
You give everything to the instant and the here and now.
Nothing else that has exists, It's all about here and now.
I approach every girl like she is the first girl I ever met, I have the butterflies in the stomach, the nervous excitement, and when I am with her she is the only only girl who ever existed in the history of the universe and space and time, she is mine and i am hers, and when we say goodbye that's it, it's done and that instant I spent with her exists for all eternity ... and that's it.

Nice philosophy. Successful long term punting requires a detached attitude. The paradox is you are detached but at the same time enjoying the intensity of the connection, then its over and life goes on

Guymartin420
01-09-2019, 10:14 PM
I am striving towards this mindset... not quite there yet...




As a punter you have to have the same mind set as a WL.
Actually I reckon I am even more WL than a WL.
You have to learn how to switch on and switch off and you have to learn that it's all about the moment, the instant, beyond the instant, the transcendence of time, eternity is not a long time, eternity is the transcendence of time.
You give everything to the instant and the here and now.
Nothing else that has exists, It's all about here and now.
I approach every girl like she is the first girl I ever met, I have the butterflies in the stomach, the nervous excitement, and when I am with her she is the only only girl who ever existed in the history of the universe and space and time, she is mine and i am hers, and when we say goodbye that's it, it's done and that instant I spent with her exists for all eternity ... and that's it.

Lostinblonde
01-09-2019, 10:45 PM
i met the girl on her first day as a ML, and i was her first customer actually. She clicked all my boxes, young, fun, bubbly and open. i should have taken her out of the shop that day...

now i guess its just too late

hyperultra
01-09-2019, 10:49 PM
i met the girl on her first day as a ML, and i was her first customer actually. She clicked all my boxes, young, fun, bubbly and open. i should have taken her out of the shop that day...

now i guess its just too late

Sounds like a romance movie. Problem is, its not a romance movie, its the story of a woman trying to make money and not get personally involved

Lostinblonde
01-09-2019, 10:56 PM
Sounds like a romance movie. Problem is, its not a romance movie, its the story of a woman trying to make money and not get personally involved

if only life is a romance movie, but its not. i also did something stupid during the time with her pretending i didn't care about the connection and i think she was annoyed so how stupid was I. hey who knows maybe she was pretending as well.

its a thing of past at the end of the day.

cuteguy
01-09-2019, 11:39 PM
i met the girl on her first day as a ML, and i was her first customer actually. She clicked all my boxes, young, fun, bubbly and open. i should have taken her out of the shop that day...

now i guess its just too late

It would unlikely occur. The ML is at the shop for one reason and that's to make money for herself. Her initial intention is not to meet her prince charming who will sweep her of her feet and give her everything she desires in life. She may meet her prince charming down the track but she won't leave her job until she obtains guarantees from her prince charming that he will support her all the way. Do you want to be that prince charming?

In any event, it's going to be very difficult to change a ML once she settles into her job. If you really want a girlfriend who might tick all your boxes look elsewhere or you might regret it later.

CunningLinguist
01-09-2019, 11:50 PM
Ok so I think I may need to seek for some help:

I have been punting for a while now and like most of you guys, sometimes have some special feelings towards one or two ML or even WL and got their numbers.

I know it’s pretty stupid that anyone would treat such connection serious especially at the beginning of my punting path I was deeply scarred by a ML who I actually treated seriously but apparently didn’t end well.

How do you guys keep emotionally or mentally disconnected with such connection or feeling? I feel guilty to be honest towards my family but cannot pull out.

Easy, just treat it like a movie, you pay to be entertained, enjoy it to the max, let yourself go and "connect" with the WL, and when the time is up you walk out back into the real world. Don't ever get confused between the fantasy of paid fuck and the real world, if you do you will it will end badly for you ...

Once you master the movie mindset you can also go for a mini-series where you see the WL/ML outside of work, but only do this if you have good self-control!

Remember once you are gone the WL/ML will probably joke about you to her work mates ;)

hyperultra
01-09-2019, 11:59 PM
Easy, just treat it like a movie, you pay to be entertained, enjoy it to the max, let yourself go and "connect" with the WL, and when the time is up you walk out back into the real world. Don't ever get confused between the fantasy of paid fuck and the real world, if you do you will it will end badly for you ...

Once you master the movie mindset you can also go for a mini-series where you see the WL/ML outside of work, but only do this if you have good self-control!

Remember once you are gone the WL/ML will probably joke about you to her work mates ;)

Good advice.

You are already paying the WL to show you affection. Involving your emotions just makes you needlessly vulnerable.

Its all about the sex. Dont overcomplicate it, and dont involve your emotions

I dont have the patience to watch a miniseries. Thankfully I have more stamina than just an ad break though

niva321
02-09-2019, 12:17 AM
Thanks for the reminder fellas.

liminal
02-09-2019, 02:45 AM
Punting is unhealthy if you are looking for emotional attachment from the women

They are simply earning money, and the vast majority are not looking for a relationship with you

Dont know your age, but if you are young and single you need to start strengthening your pickup and dating skills in your personal life

If you are attached and unhappy, you wont find emotional fulfilment with punting.

Sex is a natural function. Enjoy the sex, pay, and leave, as so many have said

Dont think you can get your emotional needs met for very long with any one working lady. They see you as weak for having to pay for sex. They never would have to pay for sex

Our discourse as punters whilst trying to isolate the magical reality of the WL/ML. mystique, leaves us (all) with a tendency to hyperbolic , highly generalised or overly simplified ideas. And at times absurd or ugly,

the why of why some pay and some gather money from sex is both simple, as much as within the clothed semi or naked states of play , which all attend and from what place an individual, enters stays and leaves is a complex state of being.

A need emotional / physical other is met for anyone who participates in any form of paid sex.

Is sex natural? Or do you mean it’s a means to rationalise a behaviour where a need is been met outside of a fulfilling relationship .

PervySage
02-09-2019, 07:32 AM
All good advice.

Also think there is more scope for MLs to play guys more then WLS.. Since a WL is screwing anyone who is paying.

An ML isn't and some if they want to play games will use this to make you think your are "special". Don't kid yourself.

ML / WL can compartmentalise their job from real life and within the job they compartmentalise between customers. They have several "special customers" who they give greater service and maybe GFE in exchange for more $$$$.

Some punters give extravagant gifts etc for all the "connection" u think you have this job for the girls is is about setting up their future or perhaps paying debt so you can't blame them.

But by all means learn to play the game....but in all games u win or lose but there is always another game.

There has been several threads on this topic in recent times I noticed...

warwick1
02-09-2019, 08:03 AM
All good advice.

Also think there is more scope for MLs to play guys more then WLS.. Since a WL is screwing anyone who is paying.

An ML isn't and some if they want to play games will use this to make you think your are "special". Don't kid yourself.

ML / WL can compartmentalise their job from real life and within the job they compartmentalise between customers. They have several "special customers" who they give greater service and maybe GFE in exchange for more $$$$.

Some punters give extravagant gifts etc for all the "connection" u think you have this job for the girls is is about setting up their future or perhaps paying debt so you can't blame them.

But by all means learn to play the game....but in all games u win or lose but there is always another game.

There has been several threads on this topic in recent times I noticed...

I have been seeing the same young ml for a while, she says I am special, I bring her coffee and sometimes buy her lunch at the end of a session but she also brings in different treats for me , I certainly know I am not "special", but at my age she is good company , no fs but an affectionate time and we talk, I know I am, getting played but I enjoy it, thats the main thing I suppose.....

Ata
02-09-2019, 12:34 PM
At the end of the day their job is similar to a bartender. A good bartender will make you think they are your close friend and easily connect with you but never forget they are on the clock and probably would rather be anywhere else.

Lostinblonde
02-09-2019, 08:40 PM
Fucking truth so true

sr71
02-09-2019, 09:28 PM
All good fun and it's ok to make friends with a few of them. Some are very nice and some will give you a bit extra, but always remember the WL's motto, "It's a business doing pleasure with you."

PervySage
02-09-2019, 09:46 PM
Fucking truth so true

To your original post "how do you stay emotionally disconnected"

I typically won't see an ML more then 5 times. But then I have broken that rule a few times....

I am not sure you can stay 100% disconnected but if you are a naturally emotional person then you will find yourself in trouble I think....

One of my regular MLs one told me everything said in the room is BS.. So never let words affect u too much...

Lostinblonde
02-09-2019, 09:57 PM
i secretly still believe that i wasted the opportunity, the ML might be genuine at the beginning but apparently with the steam in the room lost herself in just a month. shame

hyperultra
02-09-2019, 09:59 PM
I typically won't see an ML more then 5 times. But then I have broken that rule a few times....
One ML told me everything said in the room is BS.. So never let words affect u too much...

Visiting the same girl 5 times ? Each time you visit, her words dont mean anything?

Id go a bit crazy this way

Nicer to see a woman once or twice, make wonderful love together, then on to the next one
Too much talk is just counterproductive. She wont be in your life long term, so safe your energy

CunningLinguist
02-09-2019, 10:02 PM
I got no probs seeing WL/MLs many times if the service is good, just need to switch off after you walk out!

hyperultra
02-09-2019, 10:04 PM
I got no probs seeing WL/MLs many times if the service is good, just need to switch off after you walk out!

Thats true. I just keep banter to a minimum. Plenty of things we can be doing with our mouths. Talking is not what Im paying for

Warrabong
02-09-2019, 10:20 PM
i met the girl on her first day as a ML, and i was her first customer actually. She clicked all my boxes, young, fun, bubbly and open. i should have taken her out of the shop that day...

now i guess its just too late


Please tell me you don’t really believe you were the first customer. There was probably more.

Lostinblonde
02-09-2019, 10:43 PM
i was exactly the first one, she was fresh as a teenager and thats what i like most

PervySage
02-09-2019, 11:02 PM
Visiting the same girl 5 times ? Each time you visit, her words dont mean anything?

Id go a bit crazy this way

Nicer to see a woman once or twice, make wonderful love together, then on to the next one
Too much talk is just counterproductive. She wont be in your life long term, so safe your energy


I got no probs seeing WL/MLs many times if the service is good, just need to switch off after you walk out!

The 5 visits is for a few reasons.

Give me time to get to FS (if they do this!!) with an ML, a few sessions to enjoy the FS, and finally 5 visits is the limit before I find I can't completely switch off from an ML.

Precisely because their chats slowly begin to affect that I have this rule.

If it was an WL then yeh I probably would not see her more then 2x before moving on.

niva321
03-09-2019, 03:17 PM
rooter and hyperultra you guys are wise.

Seeing some of these women has exposed aspects of myself I can improve. Emotional security, confidence, addiction and reliance (porn, masturbation, etc)

Rooter, how often do you see a WL to have that mentality, with butterflies in stomach etc?

I have seen too many lately (breaking my own restrictions) and now I am so bored and uninterested in sex.

Meng
03-09-2019, 09:26 PM
i was exactly the first one, she was fresh as a teenager and thats what i like most

I spoke with a lot of WLs and one of them told me this tidbit. Whenever you ask them if you’re their first one they’ll always say yes. If you ask them if they’re busy, they’ll always say no.

It’s their job to stroke your ego so don’t believe what they say.

If you want to disconnect just think when you leave, how many hundreds of thousands of dicks will be drilling this girl that Elon Musk would hire them to his Boring Company lol.

Lostinblonde
03-09-2019, 09:38 PM
I spoke with a lot of WLs and one of them told me this tidbit. Whenever you ask them if you’re their first one they’ll always say yes. If you ask them if they’re busy, they’ll always say no.

It’s their job to stroke your ego so don’t believe what they say.

If you want to disconnect just think when you leave, how many hundreds of thousands of dicks will be drilling this girl that Elon Musk would hire them to his Boring Company lol.

the drama with the ML was a little bit different and we had some conversation outside of the shop but yeah, it was a thing of the past so meaningless to think about now.

Brothelcreeper
03-09-2019, 10:39 PM
I spoke with a lot of WLs and one of them told me this tidbit. Whenever you ask them if you’re their first one they’ll always say yes. If you ask them if they’re busy, they’ll always say no.

It’s their job to stroke your ego so don’t believe what they say.

If you want to disconnect just think when you leave, how many hundreds of thousands of dicks will be drilling this girl that Elon Musk would hire them to his Boring Company lol.

Wise words Meng

The girls job is to make you feel good, just like an Estate Agent showing you a house for sale.

They will tell you what you want to hear.

“Handsome boy”, “nice body”, “big cock”, “shop is quiet” (so you don’t think she has been fucked senseless all day), “you are No1”, “wow big load”, “I cum so many times”, “I miss you darling/ honey”, etc etc etc

hyperultra
03-09-2019, 10:45 PM
I spoke with a lot of WLs and one of them told me this tidbit. Whenever you ask them if you’re their first one they’ll always say yes. If you ask them if they’re busy, they’ll always say no.

It’s their job to stroke your ego so don’t believe what they say.

If you want to disconnect just think when you leave, how many hundreds of thousands of dicks will be drilling this girl that Elon Musk would hire them to his Boring Company lol.

But punters are the same.

I often say 'this is my first time here' so I seem innocent. I also say 'you are beautiful'
Its a fantasy world and both people are playing the game

Climax598
03-09-2019, 10:56 PM
I tell the wl you are a good are sucking my cock
Your pussy is tight. You have nice tits. You are beautiful. I like fucking you. I miss you from the last fuck. You are the best in servicing me. I only fuck you no other girls. You have nice body.
So we all used each other. The only thing is we pay to use the girl and the girl earn our money. So I guess we are even.

hyperultra
03-09-2019, 11:07 PM
I tell the wl you are a good are sucking my cock
Your pussy is tight. You have nice tits. You are beautiful. I like fucking you. I miss you from the last fuck. You are the best in servicing me. I only fuck you no other girls. You have nice body.
So we all used each other. The only thing is we pay to use the girl and the girl earn our money. So I guess we are even.

For that one hour you are both the most attractive and most sexually desirable people on the planet

sydpunt
03-09-2019, 11:16 PM
I do the same. Say nice things about their strength or beauty in this case. So that they give you a good service which can improve the session even if say, they are not as pretty, but good attitude will improve the mood 10x.

As I am young, some say why do you come here you can get it outside, you are handsome etc... half of my believe it and the other half is sceptical

hyperultra
03-09-2019, 11:23 PM
I do the same. Say nice things about their strength or beauty in this case. So that they give you a good service which can improve the session even if say, they are not as pretty, but good attitude will improve the mood 10x.

As I am young, some say why do you come here you can get it outside, you are handsome etc... half of my believe it and the other half is sceptical

If you are polite, courteous and a gentleman, its a shame all sessions cant be playful and fun. If the service isnt consistently fun and enjoyable, dump the shop. You are paying money to be pampered and pleased

krnboy
04-09-2019, 11:21 AM
At the end of the day their job is similar to a bartender. A good bartender will make you think they are your close friend and easily connect with you but never forget they are on the clock and probably would rather be anywhere else.

Or a sales person wanting to earn commission selling herself

gentleguy
05-09-2019, 06:42 PM
Thats funny I usually get told "no busy" when I ask if they were busy today. The usual stuff like you're handsome and are you single. I did get close to a couple of WL back in the day and one wanted to marry me for visa. I did feel emotionally attached to her and hated the fact she was working 6 days a week at a brothel. Had a couple of dinner dates with her thats about it outside of work.

Peterpecker
10-09-2019, 01:27 AM
Rooter, totally agree.