Massage extra prices change?

[Mepunt]

What's everyone's experience in terms of massage extras pricing? I thought Sydney was standardised at $50 nude hj?

Went to see a Japanese girl today. As usual, left the $50 out up front. When it came to part 2, she started the hj.. I eventually asked her to take off and she said no. I was very confused but she said it was $50 clothed hj and $80 for nhj!

In all my massages I've never came across this pricing. Sure, I've seen some sell b2b at $80 but never just plain nhj.

For what it was worth, there was nothing particularly special about this girl.

Is this a trend I just haven't come across before? At $145/hr, I'd much rather go to 227 for less and with better facilities and training.

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[murphy]

What's everyone's experience in terms of massage extras pricing? I thought Sydney was standardised at $50 nude hj?

Went to see a Japanese girl today. As usual, left the $50 out up front. When it came to part 2, she started the hj.. I eventually asked her to take off and she said no. I was very confused but she said it was $50 clothed hj and $80 for nhj!

In all my massages I've never came across this pricing. Sure, I've seen some sell b2b at $80 but never just plain nhj.

For what it was worth, there was nothing particularly special about this girl.

Is this a trend I just haven't come across before? At $145/hr, I'd much rather go to 227 for less and with better facilities and training.

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If you are paying much more than $50 you can get better value at a brothel. Many brothels offer $90-100 for half an hour with massage, CBJ, LFK and shower/towel as standard, and its not uncommon for DFK and DATY to also be included. Some guys are paying extra $200-300 for very nice massages. Keep your money in your pocket.

$50 for a clothed HJ? Just do it yourself, not much difference there. Ask at the start what the rates are.

[username0912]

Was it at Tokio studio ??

[Mepunt]

Was it at Tokio studio ??Haha.. It was. Perhaps just the trend for there then!

I probably just won't go back. Am I meant to clarify the prices after they send the girl in? Then say no, I want a $50 nhj girl, not an $80 one. Just all too hard.

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[vortex11]

If it's your first time at a place or there's no Intel on here I'd check with the girl up front. Shouldn't find too much variation within the common establishments. If it's too high, just be prepared to walk. Definitely not worth having over because if they feel like you're short changing them you're not gonna get the greatest service.

[murphy]

Haha.. It was. Perhaps just the trend for there then!

I probably just won't go back. Am I meant to clarify the prices after they send the girl in? Then say no, I want a $50 nhj girl, not an $80 one. Just all too hard.

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You're right. Its often too hard if each girl has their own price list. Random punting novices and walk-ins dont know the market price and pay. Too many better value shops elsewhere to waste time here

[Raybo]

I actually think $50 tip at RnT is a bargain, especially for an hour session. It has been the same price for a few years now. Probably should be more really....but I guess it is a buyers market.

[murphy]

If it's your first time at a place or there's no Intel on here I'd check with the girl up front. Shouldn't find too much variation within the common establishments. If it's too high, just be prepared to walk. Definitely not worth having over because if they feel like you're short changing them you're not gonna get the greatest service.

It takes trial and error sometimes to know not to return. Its hard if you pay the $50 and then find out its a nude HJ only when you are undressed and time has passed.
Unless I know the shop is reliable, I will ask when I get in the room, exactly what money pays for what, before the massage, and I politely say goodbye and walk if the cost is too high. That way I havent wasted anyones time, the lady can see the next customer, and Im off to the next shop which is very close if you are already in the city

Its only in the anonymous punting world that silly guys like us, are requesting a service, without knowing the final price. Oh, this also happens when we hire a tradesman, and the price goes up once the job is halfway through. At least with punting we can know at the start, what price is to be charged, but we need to ask up front

[murphy]

I actually think $50 tip at RnT is a bargain, especially for an hour session. It has been the same price for a few years now. Probably should be more really....but I guess it is a buyers market.

No disrespect, so the OP could get a clothed HJ for one hour. How is that a good thing?

[Mepunt]

I've been to Tokio many times over the years and never paid more than $50 for a nhj. I remember one girl tried to upsell me to a b2b once but I said no. Many of the girls give variations of a b2b for $50 anyway.

So it certainly wasn't a case of being an unknown shop. I think the onus is on them to clarify up front that the prices have changed. It's hard though because it's meant to be a discussion between the punter and the girl. Reception can't say "we're assigning this girl and her extras cost $X"

I guess it has to be an upfront discussion before the massage starts.

Or, go to places where the total cost is paid to reception at the beginning. My preference.

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[AHLUNGOR]

Do not assume !

I did that and made a fool of myself in Adelaide! Handed over $50 tip upfront and thought that’s nude HJ ........ lol

And the silly bit is that the ml was actually Chinese so I should have checked first , afterall the shop was empty and pretty sure if I had bargained, she would have given in.

[murphy]

Do not assume !

I did that and made a fool of myself in Adelaide! Handed over $50 tip upfront and thought that’s nude HJ ........ lol

And the silly bit is that the ml was actually Chinese so I should have checked first , afterall the shop was empty and pretty sure if I had bargained, she would have given in.

Even the legends of the game can have an off day. You are not a fool.
No other city or state has it as good as Sydney. Do we have to assume that services are more expensive when travelling interstate, and clarify the price before proceeding? But dont mention prices in Sydney, as its a different market elsewhere in the country

[AHLUNGOR]

Even the legends of the game can have an off day. You are not a fool.
No other city or state has it as good as Sydney. Do we have to assume that services are more expensive when travelling interstate, and clarify the price before proceeding? But dont mention prices in Sydney, as its a different market elsewhere in the country

Yeap, if you are Not frequently travelling inter state then it’s like fish out of water and you must check!

Apart from Adelaide, I found out Perth city Chinatown was $50 for a clothed HJ!

Many years ago in Melbourne, 3XX Clarendon St straight down from the Crown, Korean RnT shop where just the hr massage was $90 !

No clothed or cheap NHJ options ! Only extra on offered was $100! For which I got bbbj and NHJ finishes , but I must say the Korean girl was pretty hot and sucked me well, but that’s $190! I won’t pay in Sydney but hey, how often did I have a chance to have a shot in Melbourne? Been back down there like 5/6 times since and not a single chance !!

[annintofu]

a black list of sharp gold diggers i've seen who try to charge more/up sell (all japs)
1. Megumi@CrowsNest 47A (this megumi is the worst of them all, very bad attitude; slim, A-, well, almost no breast at all)
2. Maya@CrowsNest 47A (Maya is young, first time I saw her all was good; i believe she learned these from megumi)
3. Rola@Mascot 702 (now on Botany rd 1119) (Rola has no prob with going nude, but you can't touch her pussy at all unless you pay more)
4. Ann@Albany Massage St Leonards (not sure if she's still there) - Manly beach babe (originally from Tokyo) who thinks she's Goddess and asked for $70 to go nude.

I don't go to Tokio Studio often, but so far I haven't met anyone there who pulled this trick. Could the OP tell us who this girl is so we won't pick her next time (or PM me if you don't want to write it in public).

[murphy]

a black list of sharp gold diggers i've seen who try to charge more/up sell (all japs)
1. Megumi@CrowsNest 47A (this megumi is the worst of them all, very bad attitude; slim, A-, well, almost no breast at all)
2. Maya@CrowsNest 47A
3. Rola@Mascot 702 (now on Botany rd 1119)
4. Ann@Albany Massage St Leonards (not sure if she's still there)

I don't go to Tokio Studio often, but so far I haven't met anyone there who pulled this trick. Could the OP tell us who this girl is so we won't pick her next time (or PM me if you don't want to write it in public).

Sounds like you need to ask as soon as you are in the room with the lady, not once the massage is started

[Mepunt]

PM'd the name.

I would name publicly but despite being very annoyed, if that's the way of the world at this shop now, guess it's not her fault personally.

Happy to share with others if you want to know.

I'd always liked this shop and the Japanese there as it was good honest service without being stuffed around.. Guess no more.

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[murphy]

PM'd the name.

I would name publicly but despite being very annoyed, if that's the way of the world at this shop now, guess it's not her fault personally.

Happy to share with others if you want to know.

I'd always liked this shop and the Japanese there as it was good honest service without being stuffed around.. Guess no more.

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Well done for keeping things discreet. Do not name and shame WLs individually. They are trying their best to financially support themselves and deserve our respect. Its just that we arent obliged to go with their price ranges

[annintofu]

PM'd the name.

I would name publicly but despite being very annoyed, if that's the way of the world at this shop now, guess it's not her fault personally.

Happy to share with others if you want to know.

I'd always liked this shop and the Japanese there as it was good honest service without being stuffed around.. Guess no more.

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Thanks for the PM.
As i said in my reply to your message, the shop itself is fine, and the Mamasan does a great job too, but you never know how individual girls behave and that's why we have this forum to help weed out the bad apples.

[porpoiseboy]

I have been seeing some pretty young and hot MLs and so far the $50 tip is consistent. I occasionally voluntarily overtip when she's got a great attitude and goes the extra mile to make the session special for me.

[aussiegaigin]

There will always be girls who try to push the bar higher and hope they can get away with it. My usual response is "I've only got $50" and they usually accept that, if it means the difference of getting nothing.

One girl even tried telling me the shop price had gone up from 60 to 70/hr on a day when the boss wasn't there. I paid up, but the boss refunded me the extra next time I saw her.

[Alex T Bear]

You really can’t blame the girls for asking more than the general tip of $30/50 because shop owners are squeezing them out of their share. A shop charging $65/h will only pay the girl $25 and then take back a tissue tax at the end of their shift dependent on the number of jobs shes had. If the ML has 3 x 1 hour jobs for the day her share will be $75 less $5 tissue tax. The shops take will be $120 + the girls $5

[nostromo]

You really can’t blame the girls for asking more than the general tip of $30/50 because shop owners are squeezing them out of their share.

3 hours. $225. Cash in hand. Tell me again how the girls are being squeezed out... :question:

[annintofu]

3 hours. $225. Cash in hand. Tell me again how the girls are being squeezed out... :question:

exactly my thoughts.

nowadays i always say no to those sharp ladies who attempt to charge above market rates.
by "say no", i mean "no extras, thank you."

always ask for details first, don't assume she will go full nude or allow you to touch her.

[annintofu]

You really can’t blame the girls for asking more than the general tip of $30/50
of course, i never blame them. i just tell them "no thanks, i don't need the extras"

[murphy]

of course, i never blame them. i just tell them "no thanks, i don't need the extras"

I recently had a lady ask me for $300. Dont they really not know that there is a brothel in the next suburb where diamond service sex is cheaper than that, often with BBBJ and DATY, on a half decent bed with shower?

[liminal]

Thanks for the PM.
As i said in my reply to your message, the shop itself is fine, and the Mamasan does a great job too, but you never know how individual girls behave and that's why we have this forum to help weed out the bad apples.

Bad apples or is it simply YMMV?

Though I wholly agree with not calling out and naming shaming as the sample size to do so is non Existent

[liminal]

I recently had a lady ask me for $300. Dont they really not know that there is a brothel in the next suburb where diamond service sex is cheaper than that, often with BBBJ and DATY, on a half decent bed with shower?

The answer is no

[murphy]

The answer is no

My friend who is an RnT guy says that RnT is expensive. I understand why now, but its not an expense thats worthwhile if you are paying over $300. Dont punters know for that money theres a lot nore available elsewhere

[woods23]

I recently had a lady ask me for $300. Dont they really not know that there is a brothel in the next suburb where diamond service sex is cheaper than that, often with BBBJ and DATY, on a half decent bed with shower?

She must think u are stupid :grimace:

[cuteguy]

Sounds like you need to ask as soon as you are in the room with the lady, not once the massage is started

That's right. Don't leave it to the point where you're naked on the table and you begin to negotiate. Once you have chosen the girl, make the required inquiries within the first 5 minutes of meeting the girl and then you know. If she says no, next girl please.

Given the current oversupply of girls in RNT, you won't have a problem finding the right girl to make you happy. Some Japanese girls in RNT shops appear to be of the view that they can deliver basic RNT service and then expect a higher tip for keeping their panties on just because they are Japanese. Hmm...doesn't work with me.:anger:

[Stiff Rogers]

That's right. Don't leave it to the point where you're naked on the table and you begin to negotiate. Once you have chosen the girl, make the required inquiries within the first 5 minutes of meeting the girl and then you know. If she says no, next girl please.

Given the current oversupply of girls in RNT, you won't have a problem finding the right girl to make you happy. Some Japanese girls in RNT shops appear to be of the view that they can deliver basic RNT service and then expect a higher tip for keeping their panties on just because they are Japanese. Hmm...doesn't work with me.:anger:

Is it the one in Surry Hills? Lol

[liminal]

my point of saying .. no

Is that not every girl working reads this forum let alone has good knowledge of the broader industry

That said we all are saying that a girl who asks more than ‘we ‘ consider proper ain’t playing cricket ?

We all think that $50 is getting up there when we can go full service ... but what about the ‘morons’ no offence who pay 100 for a 10 minute lap dance and a faux tittie bang

[annintofu]

Some Japanese girls in RNT shops appear to be of the view that they can deliver basic RNT service and then expect a higher tip for keeping their panties on just because they are Japanese. Hmm...doesn't work with me.:anger:
So true. And some of the japs don't give up easily. Twice at least, after I said no to extras, the lady would later ask me to turn over and start rubbing my legs and gradually moving to my groins, hoping to arouse me. I just enjoyed their touch and didn't say a word. And they didn't ask anything either, apparently they had some pride as well.
In one case, at the end of the session, the jap ML gave me a lecture about "if you don't need extra you shouldn't pick girls etc." and i just ignored her. In another case, the lady went to the front and told this (no extra) to another jap girl who exclaimed "are you kidding?!".

But don't get me wrong, these are the few exceptions, most Jap MLs I met are very honest, polite and don't try to rip off customers.

[murphy]

That's right. Don't leave it to the point where you're naked on the table and you begin to negotiate. Once you have chosen the girl, make the required inquiries within the first 5 minutes of meeting the girl and then you know. If she says no, next girl

Good advice. Why do you go to RnT instead of pure FS? Im used to knowing what I pay for, so I like FS. But RnT is fun sometimes

[whatsup]

Sounds similar to hove I got scammed seeing Tracey ..at 608 willigouby...Waste if time..clock watcher..shit service

[YI88]

The first time I went there they had just opened and it was before all the staff had come over from the old Bondi shop. The girl was Thai, not Japanese, and had a bad attitude (interrupted massage, just after the extras). She earned no extras from me.

Since then the staff seem to be all Japanese with a fun and respectful attitude. Natsu, Momo, Erina were all classics in their own way. Plus Haru for those who did not need extras and much later there was Sakura for those who wanted extra extras. Plus one or two others whose names I have forgotten.

I'd like to keep visiting sometimes so I've PM'd for the name of the one to avoid.

[Basil22]

$50 is pretty standard for NHJ but I've only really been going to Sydney Baby Massage and Central which are pretty consistent. My first session with an ML from SBM 6 months or so ago, she kissed all up and down my bro, and gave an awesome B2B. Super cute little Thai chick, right up my alley. No kissing unfortunately but I still tipped her $10 extra for such a good service.

Saw her a few more times, and one of those days I told her I have a GF. She got super seductive and naughty all of a sudden, gave the most awesome B2B/pussy rub and then put the tip in for a few seconds. I now realise I could've asked her to go get a dom, especially after reading on here about SBM and their practices, but I'm not really pushy like that and I guess I'm still pretty green..
Anyway a few weeks ago I cracked. I think I might've said something about wanting more and so she asked me what do I want and I said "you know what I want".. "and I think you want it too". She laughed and said something like 'you're so naughty'.. but that day she got super wet when I was rubbing her...anyway so she said she'd check if 'her friend' had a condom.. (later I found out the mamasan keeps them at the front desk.. :smile:) anyway so she comes back a few minutes later and said sorrryyyy baby I couldn't get one. I said oh man were you trying to tease me or what, and then she looks at me all seductively and pulls one out from her other hand. Anyway it wasn't a free FS btw for those wondering. Still $100. So $220 for FS which is expensive when comparing to a brothel, but this was building up for months, so it's a completely different experience and more rewarding IMO. I thought at the time that I was getting special service haha but after reading about SBM I guess it's common practise. Always nice to feel like you're being treated differently! But I guess the master ML's are the ones that can make you forget that you aren't :shout:

[syd_lad]

If extras change, why would you go for Massage. Rather go to a FS joint for same price and its upto you how far you wanna go once on the bed

[studsg]

If extras change, why would you go for Massage. Rather go to a FS joint for same price and its upto you how far you wanna go once on the bedAbsolutely agree. If I wanted guaranteed BJ and FS and not getting ripped off I'd go FS shops. So many good FS shops around with much better prices.