Prof sucked in, chewed up and spat out

[The Professor]

We all talk glowingly about our successes and with talk about brothel vs Massage parlors and prices here is a cautionary tale.
Decided to see a private operator who was in a word gorgeous. Rang up, made an appointment for inner city apartment and went up at nominated time. Pictures matched the real life. Now we all know 4 pineapples is the average price for an hour's session with a private operator in BrisVegas ( yeah you and BW might get cheaper but that is standard.. and on a personal note as soon as I read BW I stop reading for obvious reasons, I digress) She wanted 5 pineapples. So I was there, I ummed and erred but WTF in the grand scheme of things what is a pineapple here or there. So hand over 5 pineapples.
Well short perf report = starfish. No dfk, lying like a limp fish, no enthusiasm, no nothing. When I complained every BS excuse came out. Basically I knew I had done my money.
Now questions ran through my head about what I should do about this ( and trashing the place did come to mind) but my sensible head said walk away.

Now only 3 days before I went to a MS, paid for the min of half hour massage and then got massage, GFE, pussy play and a few extras for a negotiated tip of 2 pineapples from a 7 out of ten.

So what have I learned - once you pay you have no control over performance, so basically you are gambling with your money. Why are MS better than private, brothels etc well I suppose IF you pay as you go you have a higher chance of getting VFM. When I travel I always pay after, its the rule, if they want it before you say bye. We need this system in Australia. You say they, the ML, won't wear it, they will if they are not getting the money.

So I got sucked in, chewed up and spat out for 5 pineapples but just maybe it taught me ( or reinforced to me) a simple rule. Trust no one - pay as you go. Big money upfront is too much of a gamble, well for me.
Prof

[darkice]

TBH if the ad said $200 and when i rocked up and she wanted $250 I would have left.

Already leaves you with a pretty poor taste to start with. Brisbane isn't that special in terms of punting and most of the time it's just not worth it.

The only other thing with the massage parlour is that sometimes the girl asks you to get up and get the money and pay her first. It's been hit and miss in terms of the service you get after.

[monkey wrench]

We all talk glowingly about our successes and with talk about brothel vs Massage parlors and prices here is a cautionary tale.
Decided to see a private operator who was in a word gorgeous. Rang up, made an appointment for inner city apartment and went up at nominated time. Pictures matched the real life. Now we all know 4 pineapples is the average price for an hour's session with a private operator in BrisVegas ( yeah you and BW might get cheaper but that is standard.. and on a personal note as soon as I read BW I stop reading for obvious reasons, I digress) She wanted 5 pineapples. So I was there, I ummed and erred but WTF in the grand scheme of things what is a pineapple here or there. So hand over 5 pineapples.
Well short perf report = starfish. No dfk, lying like a limp fish, no enthusiasm, no nothing. When I complained every BS excuse came out. Basically I knew I had done my money.
Now questions ran through my head about what I should do about this ( and trashing the place did come to mind) but my sensible head said walk away.

Now only 3 days before I went to a MS, paid for the min of half hour massage and then got massage, GFE, pussy play and a few extras for a negotiated tip of 2 pineapples from a 7 out of ten.

So what have I learned - once you pay you have no control over performance, so basically you are gambling with your money. Why are MS better than private, brothels etc well I suppose IF you pay as you go you have a higher chance of getting VFM. When I travel I always pay after, its the rule, if they want it before you say bye. We need this system in Australia. You say they, the ML, won't wear it, they will if they are not getting the money.

So I got sucked in, chewed up and spat out for 5 pineapples but just maybe it taught me ( or reinforced to me) a simple rule. Trust no one - pay as you go. Big money upfront is too much of a gamble, well for me.
Prof

I agree. Went to a place on Nind at Southport. First time for me there. got to the flip and she wanted payment up front, i begrudgingly complied. It was pretty good but got stitched 15 mins of time. Paid more than i would normally do. So won't be back.

It can kill the mood for me, having to get up to get the wallet. I have said no in the past. will do in the future.

[brownwallaby]

I never go to a private operator prof. This week I had a few sessions at shops and get all the GFE from a regular and a girl I met for the first time. 1p and 0.8p respectively, plus entrance fee

[4FoW2]

I never go to a private operator prof. This week I had a few sessions at shops and get all the GFE from a regular and a girl I met for the first time. 1p and 0.8p respectively, plus entrance fee
Apparently BW he doesn't read your posts.

[brownwallaby]

yeah I know .... that’s what he claimed :p

[Brissypunter]

Private girls are a big risk 1 . O if real pics or not or old women
2 paying up front for while service
At least with massage shop u pay massage fee generally can pick girl u want pay if not happy with massage can complain good owners will refund extras if click can be great and cheaper than greed private’s or ones who works for pimps

[tab123]

Hey prof. Sorry to hear your experience. Would you mind posting who the private operator is please? It's perfectly legal to do so. Brothers can then avoid her.

[ococpunt]

Hey prof. Sorry to hear your experience. Would you mind posting who the private operator is please? It's perfectly legal to do so. Brothers can then avoid her.

not point really, sounds like he went to ones ran by pimps, usually change location and girls all the time, but same old attitude all the time too

[marcus1honest]

That's why l
stopped going to private ones long time ago. massage shop is better if you find a right girl it can be a lot more intimate and sensual than any private can ever offer.

[RottenLittlePunt]

We all talk glowingly about our successes and with talk about brothel vs Massage parlors and prices here is a cautionary tale.
Now we all know 4 pineapples is the average price for an hour's session with a private operator in BrisVegas ( yeah you and BW might get cheaper but that is standard.. and on a personal note as soon as I read BW I stop reading for obvious reasons, I digress)

$200 isn't the average price for 1 hour private FS, it's the minimum. $180 used to be the minimum price here but most raised that to $200.

[AHLUNGOR]

Hardly ever went to privates , but if the WL wanted more money than the agreed or advertised price then it’s a sign to walk !

Unless she’s got the tits I couldn’t refuse ......... lol

[Ace01]

$200 for an hour with unbelievable pictures in Brisbane - i am surprised you found one that look close enough - my opinion is that in brisbane, whoever advertised $200/hr FS is crap- Except for 1 girl 5 years back, and 1 girl last year - all $200/hr girls are old grandma. in the city $250 to $300/hr girls might be acceptable -

[RottenLittlePunt]

$200 for an hour with unbelievable pictures in Brisbane - i am surprised you found one that look close enough - my opinion is that in brisbane, whoever advertised $200/hr FS is crap- Except for 1 girl 5 years back, and 1 girl last year - all $200/hr girls are old grandma. in the city $250 to $300/hr girls might be acceptable -

Exactly

*stupid word count*

[blake_ly]

my opinion is that in brisbane, whoever advertised $200/hr FS is crap-

Agree completely, I would even extend this up to $300/hr, after this your chances are quite good as the prices go up. Haven't really had a huge disappointment after this price range too

[insane593]

Agreed, $300 an hour, you would get quality girl, the more money you spend, Better quality you get, Seen 1 private girl outside, couple of weeks ago, Very much into Rimming, BBBJ and Swallow, Only disappointment was She wasn't able to host so price went to $400 Including extras, However had porn star gfe experience which you can't get In shops easily

[The Professor]

I thought I was stupid to pay $250 per hour but asking me to pay $300/$400 for pussy? Admittedly I can go to the Phils and pay $60 AD for PSE (yes and I know its not the Phils its BrisVegas)
YVMD but paying huge amounts for 1 hour of even the best sex sends the wrong message to women, working or otherwise.
Prof

[Nissanboy2000]

Private Girl in boondall . Name is Katie and photo's are the same as add. 100 for 30 mins and big boobs check Locanto . I have no complaints and left with a smile.

[insane593]

Nissanboy ( pump alert ) always promoting same girl, from boondall, 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[Homebrew]

Nissanboy ( pump alert ) always promoting same girl, from boondall, ��������

yes he indicated he did PUMP, did you mean Pimp, lol.

[ecchi.gaijin]

I thought I was stupid to pay $250 per hour but asking me to pay $300/$400 for pussy? Admittedly I can go to the Phils and pay $60 AD for PSE (yes and I know its not the Phils its BrisVegas)
YVMD but paying huge amounts for 1 hour of even the best sex sends the wrong message to women, working or otherwise.
Prof

No it doesn't. Girls who charge that usually want to work as little as possible and give good service in return.

If you're the type of guy that is happy to go swimming in a semen pond after 20 guys before you, that's your choice.

[blake_ly]

I thought I was stupid to pay $250 per hour but asking me to pay $300/$400 for pussy? Admittedly I can go to the Phils and pay $60 AD for PSE (yes and I know its not the Phils its BrisVegas)
YVMD but paying huge amounts for 1 hour of even the best sex sends the wrong message to women, working or otherwise.
Prof

There are quite a few girls in the 400+ range who are stunners/hustler cover model standards, it really just depends on individual 'value' on looks and performance I guess.. That being said, I rarely play in this range, but it is a nice change in scenery when I do.

[The Professor]

Punters who pay big money should realize it doesn't get you exclusivity from the girls. You pay $400 walk out the door, I walk in and offer $250 - who thinks she is going to say no. She is thinking $650 for 2 hours work.
Nor does it guarantee the 1 guy before you didn't have an STD. Famous case of a Qld politician that was paying a high class pro $600 an hour and she gave him a case of gonorrhea.
And luckily there are some people who have had stunners/hustler cover model standards, in their younger days for free so they have been there done that.
Logic like this shows a complete lack of understanding of the psychology, motivation and behaviours of working girls and the industry, but of course everyone is entitled to their view.
Prof

[RottenLittlePunt]

Punters who pay big money should realize it doesn't get you exclusivity from the girls. You pay $400 walk out the door, I walk in and offer $250 - who thinks she is going to say no. She is thinking $650 for 2 hours work.
Nor does it guarantee the 1 guy before you didn't have an STD. Famous case of a Qld politician that was paying a high class pro $600 an hour and she gave him a case of gonorrhea.
And luckily there are some people who have had stunners/hustler cover model standards, in their younger days for free so they have been there done that.
Logic like this shows a complete lack of understanding of the psychology, motivation and behaviours of working girls and the industry, but of course everyone is entitled to their view.
Prof

Can you make your mind up? Your first post was about private operators, but you now seem to be talking about shop girls. No one expects exclusivity based on the set price for a private operator, but those higher priced girls do see less customers each day. Of course that doesn't guarantee safety, but legal private operators are supposed to always use protection so if they are already charging a higher fee they are less likely to be tempted by someone offering an extra $50 for bareback.

It's strange that you talk about other not understanding the psychology of the industry, and yet you're the one who is always complaining about not getting what he expects. Perhaps it's you who lacks the understanding?

[Ace01]

The Professor, now its not that i say $300/hr, 400/hr or 500/hr plus private girls is value for money - its not - not comparing with syd market - but in brisbane that's a general truth - and yes, you will will bump into a good value at the $200-$250 IF you are prepare to visit many (and i mean on average 20+) because most of them are aunt Fanny if not grandma Fanny; Now most if not all of us all at one point have had a great experience with either a hot chic or a hot memorable session at least. Yet we are all still looking for more hot sessions - So its great for those who can get a good session out of most of of the $200/hr ladies (perhaps invoking great memory while doing the deed), but I cant... And these days, I really dont have the time or tenacity to go through a pile of hay to find the needle. On the very rare occasions, i go to see a private, it's always been the $300 to $400/hr mark that i find my poison.

As to STDs, high class chics can be as dangerous as the 200/hr one, as some will offer bbfs for additional charges or if you pay high enough, its expected or included. Dont think we need to educate people just how dangerous it is. So i would say same amount of precautions would apply and dont let $$$/hr be perception of reduction of risk factor;

..... which reminds me, save up and find more excuses to go to Syd

[insane593]

% of Getting STD is much Higher in MS compare to Private Girls, as ML hardly get their own protections & not every punter Carry protections, However Chances of getting, DATY BS, FS or Just Bbbj is A lot & Mls don't take shower after or before Seeing any Customer, ( This opinion is just For the STD % )

With The price thing, To be ML regular you have to see her atleast few times so she will be comfortable with you or vice versa. May be 3 to 4 visit, if girl has high Standard, for instance, $40 for 30 mins 4 sessions with $100 extra each time, $520 you have invested Just to get, Nude HJ, May be DATY, or BS. Which is not 100% Guaranteed That you will get tho.

Personally I go to MS as Its Unpredictable, Challenging, Cheap and Gives you choice that if you don't want just get massage and find another one, I Have few favorites & still looking for new just like everyone. However, Sometimes very frustrated when you spend over $150 for BS and Still not Satisfied.

Seeing outside in private is More relaxed, No walk of shame, if you find the right 1, you will get what you want. So once a while if you spend that amount, It's Worth.

You guys can agree or disagree, as I feel like going to see girls ( ML / Private ) outside depends on the situation, How loaded you wallet is, How heavy your balls are, How much patience you have, How much time you have, What Excatly you want.

Insane

[cekret]

most of them are aunt Fanny if not grandma Fanny

Makes you wonder, if the general consensus is that these adverts are you populated by aunties or grannies, resulting in punters walking, how do they make enough to cover rent of these apartments in the CBD.

I can understand good traffic flow if ur slim, nice body with decent racks n perform the work well, but wouldn't the oldies get evicted leaving just the girls punters crave for???

I guess we really don't live in the perfect world

[4FoW2]

Can you make your mind up? Your first post was about private operators, but you now seem to be talking about shop girls.
Can someone point out in the Prof's last post where he talks about shop girls? I go to MS shops because as insane says if things aren't going to plan you can just waste a $40 half hour massage. I think we all agree private operators are a lottery so most have learnt by experience that its a 1 in 30 chance of a good result so why waste your time. At the moment I have 1 private and 2 shop girls where my maximum spend is $150 for 1 hour. Often it drifts a little bit longer, unpaid. I never have more than $200 in my wallet. I get a GFE, my way, sometimes we go all the way but usually not because to me the intimacy is more important than putting another notch in my belt. I believe, not pressurizing the girls into FS and having a sense of both people enjoying the experience goes towards a better outcome for me.

Prof does appear to be very demanding and often whinges about what he doesn't get. He intimates he has had stunners and hustler type girls in his early days. My read of him is ( if he IS a little bit older) he wants to recreate his so called younger days of bedding beauties - my advice Prof - appreciate what you can get now and spend time realizing how lucky you might have been when you were young. The average Joe was lucky to talk to a stunner let alone bed her,
Just my opinion.

[leon_001]

I can't see a world where you walk into a private's apartment and the first thing you do is offer $250hr instead of the advertised $400hr and expect a good outcome.

[The Professor]

I can't see a world where you walk into a private's apartment and the first thing you do is offer $250hr instead of the advertised $400hr and expect a good outcome.
Not trying to be rude to Leon but this is, in my mind, the problem. Its the mindset. "Oh I must pay $400 because that's what she advertised. If I don't pay $400 I won't get good service."
Contemplate this - in many overseas countries ( yes and I know we are not in these countries) WG's opening price is double the "normal " price. They do this to catch the dumb ones. When you walk away they straight away halve the price because they know if you walk down the street you can get it for that price from another WG. They then go to their boyfriends and charge them nothing to have sex with them, a matter of fact some pay for dinner and drinks for them.
One of the Golden rules of Mongering is never pay the advertised price.
Do you believe if all the guys in BrisVegas suddenly refused to pay $400 for a session and only paid $250 that all the WG's would pack up and go somewhere else?
And please please understand that there is no guaranteed correlation between the price you pay and the level of service you get. I would say many of your best "punts" have had nothing to do with how much you paid. Am I right?
Probably the more beneficial discussion we should be having is how did it get like this and what collectively we can do about it.
I can see a day ("world" in BrisVegas) when due to competition we do have a Sydney like scene,when you can say to a WG no I'm not paying that and if your perf is bad I'm not coming back.
To me the same guys that think you have to pay $400 for a session and you are guaranteed of good service are also the guys who think you marry a girl and then work your ass off keeping her in the style she is accustomed to for the rest of your life or else you won't get any between the sheets at night.
Its about mindset, but of course what would I know.
Puff Puff Prof
(PS Sorry 4FloW I lied it wasn't a Hustler girl, she was in Penthouse - which means nothing today because you can't have sex with a memory)

[RottenLittlePunt]

Can someone point out in the Prof's last post where he talks about shop girls?

Well who in their right mind would talk about being exclusive with a private WL advertising FS? The sentence was obviously about shop MLs offering exclusive services to select customers. Similarly, as was pointed out, negotiating with a private WL is less common than it is with a shop ML. I have a few PWL friends and they absolute hate those customers who try it, so you are GUARANTEED to get worse service from any PWL you try to haggle with. To claim otherwise confirms a lack of understanding of the industry and the idealistic world he lives in.

[RottenLittlePunt]

Makes you wonder, if the general consensus is that these adverts are you populated by aunties or grannies, resulting in punters walking, how do they make enough to cover rent of these apartments in the CBD.

I can understand good traffic flow if ur slim, nice body with decent racks n perform the work well, but wouldn't the oldies get evicted leaving just the girls punters crave for???

I guess we really don't live in the perfect world

The really horrid grannies are in the suburbs, so have lower cost of living. Plus I think they work to supplement another income rather than rely on it.

The CBD PWLs are younger and attractive enough but often bait and switch adverts. I find it's their robotic nature that makes them less attractive than their appearance. Hence they are usually basement priced at $200/hr

[marcoau]

Nissanboy ( pump alert ) always promoting same girl, from boondall, ��������

"Nissanboy" was also his/her Locanto ID, if is not the pimp is the girl herself promoting.