Comparison

[4FoW2]

I know its in the wrong section BUT just wanted to give you some comparison.
Currently touring Philippines - now in Angeles - last night - BBBJ, FS, bareback, GFE, 1 and a half hours. Begging me to take her home in my suitcase. Girl rating 7. How much....1000 peso ..that's $29 AD.
Was kind enough to give her an extra 200 peso tip - that's $6 AD. Yeah I'm a nice guy lol.
I know you can't compare apples with apples in different countries but in BrisVegas lets say $300 an hour for same ( def not BB) that's $450 for same session. Do you recon BrisVegas pussy is worth 14 times Filipino pussy?
4FoW2

[Runningman1969]

Is that pussy certifiably disease free?
Not that BrisVegas BB pussy is certifiable, but then not every man and his dog is going BB in BrisVegas working girls.

Going BB in a Phillipines brothel or with working girls from bars is like Russian roulette ( and they probably own the said clubs/brothers too!)

[Chief_Punter]

I have had many trips to the Philippines. Never has it cost $29.00 for that service. Either, you find girls in the malls and they will do all that for free, or you find girls in the clubs but you are paying bar fines, etc. etc. which do add up.

[4FoW2]

I have had many trips to the Philippines. Never has it cost $29.00 for that service. Either, you find girls in the malls and they will do all that for free, or you find girls in the clubs but you are paying bar fines, etc. etc. which do add up.
Why would I bother lying?? 1000 agreed ST plus 200 tip. = $29 + $6. Got her off Wechat.
4Fl

[Rockhard69]

Why would I bother lying?? 1000 agreed ST plus 200 tip. = $29 + $6. Got her off Wechat.
4Fl

The info that 4FoW2 is giving is absolutely correct. From reading about his adventures elsewhere he is well prepared for his adventures.

As for the girl coming back in his suitcase, she probably could have fitted in there. And on any extended visit I have had in Ph, there is always one girl that steals my heart and makes me think 'what if'.

[Chief_Punter]

Why would I bother lying?? 1000 agreed ST plus 200 tip. = $29 + $6. Got her off Wechat.
4Fl

I haven’t used wechat in the Philippines, so perhaps those prices are possible. My experience is either they will meet you and do anything you want with them for free, which is obviously the preferred method but sometimes I’ll go to the bars to take a few girls home at a time for a bit of a change up. It does cost though. I might try wechat next time. But then again meeting girls with no monetary exchange feels a lot better.

[4FoW2]

The info that 4FoW2 is giving is absolutely correct. From reading about his adventures elsewhere he is well prepared for his adventures.As for the girl coming back in his suitcase, she probably could have fitted in there. And on any extended visit I have had in Ph, there is always one girl that steals my heart and makes me think 'what if'.
Thanks RH69. One important rule of punting is to approach it with your head and dick but never your heart. Punting is usually paid sex. To me its about ST pleasure that will never lead anywhere. I treat the girls with respect, compassion and kindness but I always say to them when they beg " you have your life here, I have mine in Aust" Guys who start thinking what if? are usually 95% headed for problems. I met my beautiful Viet partner in Aust - she was there for 15 years before we met. She was Westernized to some degree but still held many of the Buddhists and Vietnamese traits of her culture. I know I will never find that in the Phils or Thailand, nor do I want to. To me you must separate sex from love. Love and "togetherness" is more about the mind and heart of the person more so than the breasts, ass and pussy. And that is why if she told me to give up my "travels" I would. Remember the Golden Rule of Mongering in the Philippines ( or anywhere): Don't fall in love.
4Fl

[reddoor]

Good advice..... Let the Ferrets b your guide haha.

[Ace01]

i would seriously avoid BB if you have a beautiful partner to come back to - not sure what sort preparation was used for your adventures

[blake_ly]

i would seriously avoid BB

I would totally avoid BB altogether with working girls.

[4FoW2]

I would totally avoid BB altogether with working girls.
I would never put my partner at risk - never- smart ppl get the knowledge, know the risks and prepare adequately - yes things can go wrong but knowledge is power.
If you are bb ing have a good relationship with a doc - they can advise.
4 F

[iamking]

Often STIs are passed on without realising and without obvious signs and symptoms. HPV, HIV, HSV, Hep B are incurable. No doctor or amounts of money can get rid these for you. The risks of BB are real. The dangers to MLs and punters are real and incorrect education puts us all at risk. This includes BBBJ and DATY.

[Biglad]

Almost all of those men are aged over 40, were born in Australia and picked up the virus having unprotected sex with women overseas, most commonly in South-East Asia.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-01/hiv-diagnosis-rates-in-wa-more-straight-man-than-gay/11752598

[RottenLittlePunt]

I would never put my partner at risk - never- smart ppl get the knowledge, know the risks and prepare adequately - yes things can go wrong but knowledge is power.
If you are bb ing have a good relationship with a doc - they can advise.
4 F

No amount of preparation is going to stop you from getting an STI if you're BB it, aside from Hepetitis and HIV which can be prevented.

[Rockhard69]

I always got to Chemist Warehouse and carry 12 x box of condoms for each week I'll be in-country.

For the first 6 years of visiting Ph I always used condom for penetration. I allow BBBJ.

Eventually you get comfortable with repeat girl, some would say girlfriend and provided the risk of pregnancy is covered then BB is so much better.

I had one beautiful woman that from our first meeting talked about her faith in God. She wasn't a working girl and it took a few months until we hooked up in bed. She said that God will decide when she will get pregnant and she would not permit the use of condom. So what to do? I doubt any monger that has arranged overseas trips, courted this woman and then with her in your apartment would deny her faith.

[Ace01]

ummm, last i checked, most faith talks about sex after marriage and if one can choose and chop bits of it, then so can use of condom. Assuming you are not married, she cant be that religious then!

[brisboy7718]

BBing chicks in Phillipines or Thailand is shady as fuck! :surprise:

[gpeck80]

FYI If you contract HPV. You wont know and if your wife gets it, it can render her sterile. Which sucks if youre trying to start a family. On the other hand, hey, if youve got a spare 150k you could always go IVF and even then its not guaranteed.

[Rockhard69]

ummm, last i checked, most faith talks about sex after marriage and if one can choose and chop bits of it, then so can use of condom. Assuming you are not married, she cant be that religious then!

Actually she is married now, so that's another thing she will have to overcome when I go to see her.



BBing chicks in Phillipines or Thailand is shady as fuck! :surprise:

Yep, so is hanging around Brisbane massage places, getting dodgy services in asian massage places. You've been a member of this forum for a few years, you rarely post. In two years I'm pretty sure you've done a few shady things too.

[4FoW2]

Often STIs are passed on without realising and without obvious signs and symptoms. HPV, HIV, HSV, Hep B are incurable. No doctor or amounts of money can get rid these for you. The risks of BB are real. The dangers to MLs and punters are real and incorrect education puts us all at risk. This includes BBBJ and DATY.

I agree there is a lot of information and misinformation out there. BUT if you know a good doc, read certified medical reports from trusted journals and sources and take precautions you can reduce the risks greatly. Now not saying shit can't happen yes it can BUT there are ways to combat issues. Posters need to read the scientific based studies and commentary from a number of sources to get the RIGHT intel. Read the studies, not just scaremongering that goes on. If these diseases are so prevalent why aren't more ppl infected? If so many Aust, American, Koreans etc visiting and bb why have the infection rates gone skyward? You do the maths of sex travellers vs infection rates and then tell me what they are mostly using condoms?
Most guys in the world can't control themselves when they see a pussy and do crazy things like overpay and act like school boys and now you tell me they have got a 20 year old Filipina with a body of a 14 year old in front of them and they are going to say hey wait bb lets cover up first.
4F

[brownwallaby]

Hi 4FoW2
Since the purpose of these forums is to share knowledge / information could you advise which scientific papers or documents we should read to get the right intel?
cheers

[ecchi.gaijin]

FYI If you contract HPV. You wont know and if your wife gets it, it can render her sterile. Which sucks if youre trying to start a family. On the other hand, hey, if youve got a spare 150k you could always go IVF and even then its not guaranteed.

HPV 16 amd 18 can become cancer also

[hurdur]

20 year old Filipina with a body of a 14 year old

...Hol up :surprise:

[Rockhard69]

Hi 4FoW2
Since the purpose of these forums is to share knowledge / information could you advise which scientific papers or documents we should read to get the right intel?
cheers

go to CDC :https://www.cdc.gov/hpv/parents/cancer.html

Anyway, i love my travels in Asian countries. I do pack a healthy supply of condoms. Sometimes it is just to hard to resisit what is laying in our bed(s)

Our child raring and impregnating days are well past. I'm pretty sure in 20 years time I am more fondly going to remember a 20 year filipina that does crazy things with her tongue more so than I will remember reading the CDC website.

[brownwallaby]

Thanks RH69, still awaiting a positive response from 4FoW2

[4FoW2]

Can I suggest those who wish to know the real facts of transmittable disease use a device called the internet. Type into the search engine words like HIV prevention and scientific evidence. Go to scientific papers read them thoroughly esp the conclusion sections. Armed with this intel from a number of reliable sources then go speak to your doc who you have a open relationship with and check your intel against his knowledge. Remembering too that he has a position from which he gives you his counsel. I have read many sites, scientific studies and reports from a number of credible sources and no I didn't write them down for reference for others later.

Of course the other thing to do is just brown mud sling with limited knowledge.

Funny how some posters write about "getting the right intel" from this forum. Pot calling the kettle black.

But in the end its a choice thing. And yes nothing is 100% certain.

So now I'll get back to my 20 something cuties in the Philippines for $40 AD a night and you can go off to your BrisVegas MP and pay $40 for the first half hour massage.
Then ( some of you) can report how you got FS, BBBj and cuddling for an extra $60.
So who would you believe?