Going rate for part 3?

[johndough]

Haven’t ventured past part 2 at an RNT joint yet but considering upping the anti. I know the rate would vary with some girls, but is there a general base rate like a pineapple is for b2b?

[Basil22]

Haven’t ventured past part 2 at an RNT joint yet but considering upping the anti. I know the rate would vary with some girls, but is there a general base rate like a pineapple is for b2b?

Both times I’ve been offered were $100 so in my experience that’s the rate ..

[CountryPunter]

My few RnT experiences were 1 pineapple for pt2 & 2 pineapples for pt3. Makes it more expensive than a lot of the western suburbs fs shops although you get a decent massage and the girl is usually in better shape than a lot of the girls in the cheaper fs joints.

[solopuntsydney]

I used to go to a massage shop quite often, and always just gave 100 bucks for part 3.

One day the mamasan pulled me aside and whispered to me that: “You are giving them too much, most will settle with 60-70”.

I ignored her advice, as I felt the ladies there were generally all very nice and (maybe because I tipped well) gave good services.

After a few months I stopped going, as most of the good girls left. I was told by the remaining few that they were considering leaving, too, because the mamasan is pressuring them to accept FS for close to nothing.

[Warrabong]

I used to go to a massage shop quite often, and always just gave 100 bucks for part 3.

One day the mamasan pulled me aside and whispered to me that: “You are giving them too much, most will settle with 60-70”.

I ignored her advice, as I felt the ladies there were generally all very nice and (maybe because I tipped well) gave good services.

After a few months I stopped going, as most of the good girls left. I was told by the remaining few that they were considering leaving, too, because the mamasan is pressuring them to accept FS for close to nothing.

60-70 is about right. Some demand $100 but if the girl is hot and the service good why not.

[Dettol]

as in $100 tips for the works ?
or just part 3 ? ie $150 total ?

[Bakergeoff]

I've paid..

Part 2: $50
Part 3: $100
So $150.. I generally prefer ML over WL as there's more chasing involved. It's all part of the game [emoji23]

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[Sillafest]

Sometimes there’s a massage place walking distance near the pie shop but it’s actually a brothel 😆

[Jumper]

I used to go to a massage shop quite often, and always just gave 100 bucks for part 3.

One day the mamasan pulled me aside and whispered to me that: “You are giving them too much, most will settle with 60-70”.

I ignored her advice, as I felt the ladies there were generally all very nice and (maybe because I tipped well) gave good services.

After a few months I stopped going, as most of the good girls left. I was told by the remaining few that they were considering leaving, too, because the mamasan is pressuring them to accept FS for close to nothing.
Agreed with you bro.

[AHLUNGOR]

In the really good old days of 501 Newtown, where the massage fees for 30 min was only $30 and a free clothed HJ was included !! beat that !!

A $20 tip meaning a single pineapple would deliver a happy ending with NHJ ! (total = $30 + $20 = $50 )

A $50 tip could let you go all the way: (total = $30 + $50 = $80 ) !!

That was the Golden era in RnT punting in Sydney IMHO, and luckily, that's when I first started using the forum and thanks to AUS99 and all those senior pioneers before us, got to sample legendary MLs such as the Jojo Sasa sisters, Thai Nana, the original Mia, Coco, and the irreplaceable Sophie !!

Disclaimer: I can neither confirm nor deny if any of the above mentioned MLs had provided any of the mentioned services at such mentioned prices. as always, everything is personal, private and strictly between the punters and the MLs and as always, YMMV !

Cheers

[LookingForTheOne]

What is actually part 3? A few shops now offer b2b for $120 in total. I find most ML like daty without asking for extra and some girls will offer COB for $20 extra. I have never asked a ML for sex but if you click then they will provide it for free or some ask you at a rate of $50-$100 if they want to provide the service. Everything is really up to the girl and how she feels at the time.

[Eclipsefun]

Prepare for $100. If you can get it for less great. If she wants more don't bother, you may as well got to a proper Fs place with a bed.

[exstar]

Typically $50 on top of the standard part 2 tip

[Warrabong]

as in $100 tips for the works ?
or just part 3 ? ie $150 total ?

I’m talking about part 3

[Warrabong]

In the really good old days of 501 Newtown, where the massage fees for 30 min was only $30 and a free clothed HJ was included !! beat that !!

A $20 tip meaning a single pineapple would deliver a happy ending with NHJ ! (total = $30 + $20 = $50 )

A $50 tip could let you go all the way: (total = $30 + $50 = $80 ) !!

That was the Golden era in RnT punting in Sydney IMHO, and luckily, that's when I first started using the forum and thanks to AUS99 and all those senior pioneers before us, got to sample legendary MLs such as the Jojo Sasa sisters, Thai Nana, the original Mia, Coco, and the irreplaceable Sophie !!

Disclaimer: I can neither confirm nor deny if any of the above mentioned MLs had provided any of the mentioned services at such mentioned prices. as always, everything is personal, private and strictly between the punters and the MLs and as always, YMMV !

Cheers

Is that the Sasa that worked at South Hurstville? She was my first favourite ML and I had a lot of sessions with her.

[xboyx]

$100 or so will get you to fuck a young girl in massage shops.

It's interesting to see these girls are willing to let you fuck them for $100 extra. But if I find a girl on the street and offer $100 to fuck her, probably I will end up with a slap on my face. I wish there's a way for me to know if a girl is ML/WL to make that offer when I see a nice girl outside.

Any tips? Maybe some brothers here have tried?

[Smartmover]

When i do get part 3, i was always able to settle for another extra $50 on top of what i already paid.

So $65 for the hour, $50 for the NHJ, $50 for all the way. Total : $165

Anything more than that, should consider going to a fs shop at the first place?!

[Smartmover]

If on the street, you are in an environment that people need to be attracted to you, unlike inside the massage shop where she was already serving you.

So first step is to make you attractive first, unless you are after hookers that stands on the streets which its very rare here in Australia, better go to South east asia.

[Jumper63]

Typically $50 on top of the standard part 2 tip

Agree with this suggestion. You’ll get cheaper but I agree with some of the others above ... the MLs should be rewarded and encouraged at same time. Don’t worry about risking the market by paying more than perhaps what is perceived ... pay what you think it’s worth with in the accepted range. For me ... pineapple for NHJ ... green soldier for anything more.

[Happyman2018]

Part 3 at rnt average at 100 plus d massage price
I think it's reasonable
If anymore then ofcoz y not move urself to fs
I some time prefer to go rnt n ask for part 3.
I believe it's like doing a treasure hunt...
U never know what u get.
But in fs u know wat u get...
Less suprise

[magickid3801]

with rnt if you tell the ML before the session starts that you want to fuck , you can get away with paying $50 extra on top of massage price. Then if she refuses walk, threaten to walk out and she'll change her mind ASAP watch.

Reason why people pay $100 is when the ML has gotten them horny and literally has them by the balls asking them ridiculous amount for extra

[AHLUNGOR]

with rnt if you tell the ML before the session starts that you want to fuck , you can get away with paying $50 extra on top of massage price. Then if she refuses walk, threaten to walk out and she'll change her mind ASAP watch.

Reason why people pay $100 is when the ML has gotten them horny and literally has them by the balls asking them ridiculous amount for extra

Looks like you had evolved quite successfully from a newbie to an expert ! Good on you Bro!

Any chance of sharing some of your success stories in getting a part 3 with $50 only - in the private section of course !

Cheers


Name them brothers, the cheapest RnT (include extras in the price) and Brothels for 30 mins in Sydney


Just wondering whether anyone has gotten free extras from a ML? If so how did you do it?

Life can get pretty expensive always paying for FS or DATY extras sometimes :(

[Happyman2018]

with rnt if you tell the ML before the session starts that you want to fuck , you can get away with paying $50 extra on top of massage price. Then if she refuses walk, threaten to walk out and she'll change her mind ASAP watch.

Reason why people pay $100 is when the ML has gotten them horny and literally has them by the balls asking them ridiculous amount for extra
Thanks for D tips
Didn't realise this way can help

[nostromo]

with rnt if you tell the ML before the session starts that you want to fuck , you can get away with paying $50 extra on top of massage price. Then if she refuses walk, threaten to walk out and she'll change her mind ASAP watch.


Thanks for D tips
Didn't realise this way can help

Seems to me like a pretty straight forward way of burning any working relationship and good will with shop owners, receptionists and MLs which may actually get you part 3.

But give it a try, let us know how it goes.

Or just go to a FS shop and save yourself potential trouble.

[magickid3801]

Looks like you had evolved quite successfully from a newbie to an expert ! Good on you Bro!

Any chance of sharing some of your success stories in getting a part 3 with $50 only - in the private section of course !

Cheers

Some of the successful stories include Arncliffe Massage (I recommend going on a Saturday and seeing Apple very busty and is basically a Pornstar Experience mixed with a bit of GFE)

Also Qcherry in Hurlstone Park/Canterbury provides excellent service all girls are <30 and extremely solid

Massage Centre Hurstville up the road from Shell petrol station towards King Georges Road ( 3/438 Forest Rd, Hurstville) cant miss it next to a furniture/light store, again some young girls some milfs but once you say $50 tip before hand for FS you get, sometimes try and haggle and are stubborn for $60-$70 extra but still less than $100

Once you say you want FS upfront ML knows your intentions and its either she provides that service or misses out on the money and you walk and find another store that provides great service at that price. NOTE: this method works most effectively when dealing with the ML herself and paying her the total fee for massage + extra (i assume she does a dodgy and incorrectly squares it off). This isnt as effective once you pay mamasan massage fee and then have to seperately negotiate and pay ML separately once in the room together.

P.s. Funny story back when i first started punting and wouldn't speak up before hand and waited for ML to dictate pricing i paid $100 extra just for a CBJ (ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS) but she had me by the balls coz i was horny and would have gotten blue balls otherwise :/

[F0x]

with rnt if you tell the ML before the session starts that you want to fuck , you can get away with paying $50 extra on top of massage price. Then if she refuses walk, threaten to walk out and she'll change her mind ASAP watch.

Hopefully you'll be walking a lot then, kid.

An ML has no obligation whatsoever to actually do anything sexual to you or for you. Only licensed Brothels do. And even then, its at the consent of the WL to actually agree to take you as a customer.

Not sure if you are aware of that fact.

Of course an ML will see if they can get more. If they can why not? Just be polite and seek to agree on $50. If they want to stick to $100, just decline politely and enjoy the rest without dummy spitting and "threatening" anything.

[magickid3801]

Seems to me like a pretty straight forward way of burning any working relationship and good will with shop owners, receptionists and MLs which may actually get you part 3.

But give it a try, let us know how it goes.

Or just go to a FS shop and save yourself potential trouble.


nah incorrect, i feel like it stregnthens it coz ML becomes comfortble, knows what you want and she just mentally gets herself ready and when she sees you next time is excited and knows what product you are buying so to speak

i have a ML that offers me FS for 45 mins @ $90 (massage + extra for FS)

idk maybe works better for me because i am young and she is a bit of a milf and wants young dick? idk lol

[magickid3801]

Hopefully you'll be walking a lot then, kid.

An ML has no obligation whatsoever to actually do anything sexual to you or for you. Only licensed Brothels do. And even then, its at the consent of the WL to actually agree to take you as a customer.

Not sure if you are aware of that fact.

Of course an ML will see if they can get more. If they can why not? Just be polite and seek to agree on $50. If they want to stick to $100, just decline politely and enjoy the rest without dummy spitting and "threatening" anything.

i obviously am courteous and do not cause a scene in the shop, its just like when you haggle with a car salesman and they say they cant do a better price even though the other car salesman down the road can do a better price.

I just simply say okay if you cant do it at that price i simply walk.

i'm a consumer of a service so i am entitled to seek the best and affordable rate and not be ripped off

[Raybo]

Seems to me like a pretty straight forward way of burning any working relationship and good will with shop owners, receptionists and MLs which may actually get you part 3.

But give it a try, let us know how it goes.

Or just go to a FS shop and save yourself potential trouble.

This.....Punters have their pet hates, as do ML's and hagglers/tight arses are right up the top of that list. Causing a scene to save a couple of bucks is a shit go. You also have to wonder how part 3 is really going to be like at that point anyway.

[magickid3801]

This.....Punters have their pet hates, as do ML's and hagglers/tight arses are right up the top of that list. Causing a scene to save a couple of bucks is a shit go. You also have to wonder how part 3 is really going to be like at that point anyway.

like i said i dont cause i scene, if ML is happy with price i offer that i am willing to pay then happy days and we continue, if not, then i politely say okay thank you sorry for wasting your time and i walk out simple.

[F0x]

i obviously am courteous and do not cause a scene in the shop, its just like when you haggle with a car salesman and they say they cant do a better price even though the other car salesman down the road can do a better price.

I just simply say okay if you cant do it at that price i simply walk.

i'm a consumer of a service so i am entitled to seek the best and affordable rate and not be ripped off

Good to hear you are polite.

Negotiatong with an ML isnt the same as haggling a car down.

The car saleman isnt the one sucking you off or copping dick from you. You arent directly asking the car you are driving to make itself cheaper.

If you have an ML which is happy with your methods, then happy days for you

[woods23]

with rnt if you tell the ML before the session starts that you want to fuck , you can get away with paying $50 extra on top of massage price. Then if she refuses walk, threaten to walk out and she'll change her mind ASAP watch.

Reason why people pay $100 is when the ML has gotten them horny and literally has them by the balls asking them ridiculous amount for extra

Wtfff I just read !!
Bloody hell no idea at all.

You might as well go to a fs shop...

Obviously u don't get very far or earn their trust !

[Raybo]

like i said i dont cause i scene, if ML is happy with price i offer that i am willing to pay then happy days and we continue, if not, then i politely say okay thank you sorry for wasting your time and i walk out simple.

You have hit paydirt with a couple of ML's but the vast majority of them would (and should) be insulted if you got in the room with them and offered the same amount of money they would get for a nude wristie.....regardless of how 'polite or 'courteous' you were.

Wouldn't surprise me if the shops you walked out of would let you back in.

[magickid3801]

You have hit paydirt with a couple of ML's but the vast majority of them would (and should) be insulted if you got in the room with them and offered the same amount of money they would get for a nude wristie.....regardless of how 'polite or 'courteous' you were.

Wouldn't surprise me if the shops you walked out of would let you back in.

i frequent the same shops all the time lmaooo

[woods23]

i frequent the same shops all the time lmaooo

Yes and cursed the shit out of you behind your back...stuipd !!!
Lmaooo

[AHLUNGOR]

Yes and cursed the shit out of you behind your back...stuipd !!!
Lmaooo

Brother Woods,

What is Lmaooo ?

[Raybo]

i frequent the same shops all the time lmaooo

Oh, you said you walk out if they can't meet your demands? So you go try again at the same shop another day if they decline?

https://neilkakkar.com/assets/images/dunning-kruger-2.jpg

[AHLUNGOR]

Some of the successful stories include Arncliffe Massage (I recommend going on a Saturday and seeing Apple very busty and is basically a Pornstar Experience mixed with a bit of GFE)

Also Qcherry in Hurlstone Park/Canterbury provides excellent service all girls are <30 and extremely solid

Massage Centre Hurstville up the road from Shell petrol station towards King Georges Road ( 3/438 Forest Rd, Hurstville) cant miss it next to a furniture/light store, again some young girls some milfs but once you say $50 tip before hand for FS you get, sometimes try and haggle and are stubborn for $60-$70 extra but still less than $100

Once you say you want FS upfront ML knows your intentions and its either she provides that service or misses out on the money and you walk and find another store that provides great service at that price. NOTE: this method works most effectively when dealing with the ML herself and paying her the total fee for massage + extra (i assume she does a dodgy and incorrectly squares it off). This isnt as effective once you pay mamasan massage fee and then have to seperately negotiate and pay ML separately once in the room together.

P.s. Funny story back when i first started punting and wouldn't speak up before hand and waited for ML to dictate pricing i paid $100 extra just for a CBJ (ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS) but she had me by the balls coz i was horny and would have gotten blue balls otherwise :/


Each to his own, obviously, and it's a free country, people can try and negotiate and get the best mileage for his cash !

But this part I don't understand:

If I read you correctly, you are saying if the massage fee is say $40/30 min, it's best to pay the $40 + $50 (your offered tips for FS) to the girl in total, rather than paying the $40 to the mamasan first and then just the $50 to the girl ? why would it make any different as the cut for the shop is set anyway !

[PervySage]

Oh, you said you walk out if they can't meet your demands? So you go try again at the same shop another day if they decline?

https://neilkakkar.com/assets/images/dunning-kruger-2.jpg

I am gonna use that chart in my next presentation at work. Brilliant

[magickid3801]

Each to his own, obviously, and it's a free country, people can try and negotiate and get the best mileage for his cash !

But this part I don't understand:

If I read you correctly, you are saying if the massage fee is say $40/30 min, it's best to pay the $40 + $50 (your offered tips for FS) to the girl in total, rather than paying the $40 to the mamasan first and then just the $50 to the girl ? why would it make any different as the cut for the shop is set anyway !

Because psychologically ML thinks she is actually getting $90 until it gets squared off + once mamasan has the massage fee its like a nonrefundable deposit that you wont get back if you decide to walk out. Hence ML charges whatever she wants.

Whereas if you give the total to ML if you dont like the price she is offering for FS you just politely walk out and dont have to settle for a NHJ for $50 or a HJ or whatever she offers for the price of extra, no money/deposit lost

[Kai94]

nah incorrect, i feel like it stregnthens it coz ML becomes comfortble, knows what you want and she just mentally gets herself ready and when she sees you next time is excited and knows what product you are buying so to speak

i have a ML that offers me FS for 45 mins @ $90 (massage + extra for FS)

idk maybe works better for me because i am young and she is a bit of a milf and wants young dick? idk lol


Same happened to me once at 635 waterloo. Paid 70 or 75 total for FS 30 min and would have spent at least 1 hr in shop. Honestly I have no idea whats the massage rates are at this palce.

[Kai94]

I am gonna use that chart in my next presentation at work. Brilliant

Lol..Thats a cool one

[lonely heart]

Brother magickid3801,

Don't border with some moron in the space. They want to pretend they are gentlemen, big spender and expert....

Factcheck (God I love this word)

1 Most ML are indeed WL these days, they just roster in a massage shop "trying" to make more money doing the same job, why should we tolerate them?
2 Shops business are down even the ones that are previously busy all day, so perfectly ok to push the price down.
3 Never believe that trust and friendship bullshit and let you $$$ do the talking.

Just to give you all an idea. a girl FS work in a shop that charges 90 . 30 mins and 150 / hr, they get pay 60-70 and 100-110 respectively.

When they roster in massage shop the shop charge 40 /30 mins and 60/ hr. They get 15-20 and 25-30 respectively. So you only need to tip to make up the difference. That's why the girls don't like 1 hr jobs in massage shops cos you have to do massage and sex it is still only $50 tip.

[nostromo]

Factcheck (God I love this word)

Your love must be fleeting, fact-check has a hyphen. :miao:

[AHLUNGOR]

You just got to give it to brother LH!

He just knows the industry so well. One thing I can confirm is that stuff about FS girls working in a RnT shop on their days off to make more money. So I suppose if you run into these ladies , I won’t be too surprised if you get offers in part 3 on your first visit. Another situation I have heard was that some FS girls went to work in RnT shop during that time of the month ! Of course, they either keep the panties on or using the inserted tampon just no touching, they can still pretty much provide most services including a blow job but can’t work in FS, right ?

[wilisno]

You just got to give it to brother LH!

He just knows the industry so well. One thing I can confirm is that stuff about FS girls working in a RnT shop on their days off to make more money. So I suppose if you run into these ladies , I won’t be too surprised if you get offers in part 3 on your first visit. Another situation I have heard was that some FS girls went to work in RnT shop during that time of the month ! Of course, they either keep the panties on or using the inserted tampon just no touching, they can still pretty much provide most services including a blow job but can’t work in FS, right ?

In short, what a wise punter one is to save money on getting fs in RnT ! ;) ;) ;)

The half hour massage plus fs in this case is more than going to a lot of fs places and get full sex from the start. If a massage girl will bend to accept $50 instead of $100 for fs as the kid said, she’s an wl, a cheap wl, he’ll be better going to see a wl.

Most RnT guys believe it’s an achievement to get fs from a massage girl, because they only do it for selected customers, ;) ;) ;) the fun is in the chase. But the kid said he’ll walk if the girl doesn’t accept $50 for fs, so why bother, there’s no chase involved, just bargaining, go to a brothel for the sure thing at a cheaper price !

[F0x]

Brother magickid3801,

Don't border with some moron in the space. They want to pretend they are gentlemen, big spender and expert....

Factcheck (God I love this word)

1 Most ML are indeed WL these days, they just roster in a massage shop "trying" to make more money doing the same job, why should we tolerate them?
2 Shops business are down even the ones that are previously busy all day, so perfectly ok to push the price down.
3 Never believe that trust and friendship bullshit and let you $$$ do the talking.

Just to give you all an idea. a girl FS work in a shop that charges 90 . 30 mins and 150 / hr, they get pay 60-70 and 100-110 respectively.

When they roster in massage shop the shop charge 40 /30 mins and 60/ hr. They get 15-20 and 25-30 respectively. So you only need to tip to make up the difference. That's why the girls don't like 1 hr jobs in massage shops cos you have to do massage and sex it is still only $50 tip.

No one here is saying that punters need to throw money at MLs like a confetti party brother.

Just asking that magickid be polite when negotiating prices, which he has since said he is. We also now have some guidelines as to what a part 3 should cost should it be on offer.

To your points though,

1. Should we "tolerate" a WL trying to make more money as a ML by doing the "same" job?

Its not the same job, ive already mentioned that an ML has no obligation to do anything for you other than a massage. Given its completely up to her if she wants to (even though its very likely she will do something) technically she can charge whatever she likes, its up to you to accept. If you dont like the price, you can negotiate, just asking you to do so politely. If price isn't right then lots of FS shops.

EDIT: Obviously as a small detail, all inclusive shops like Sydney Empress, yes, given you have paid tips up front in the cost, they have NHJ/B2B included and are obliged to do so as part of the service.

2. Push the price down, business is low anyway...

Shops can only afford to give discounts if business is good. Overheads dont discount themselves, though the shop may dock pay from the girls to cover. Its a vicious cycle. With too many punters pressing for discounts, the shops likeliness of closing is high. Then, only the shops doing good business will remain which sounds good in theory... but means we have fewer shops which then hold a monopoly over the market. Which then leads to monopoly of prices and services. With no competition, those shops are free to do whatever they like. Now if those shops offer great girls at great prices, ok sure. But remember the line "free to do whatever they like".

Think Apple.
"OH MY GOD THEY PUT THE HEADPHONE JACK.... ON THE BOTTOM!!! Mind blown instant brand new revolution of the iPhone. Buy now! You got no other choice, only 1 type of iPhone, if you want an Apple phone.

I remember when a KFC 2 piece feed used to be SIX bucks. It's now like double at least. Why, because Red Rooster isn't even on the same planet as KFC as far as competition goes. So no one is challenging the Colonel. Your going to buy that at double the price because you can't buy it anywhere else.

3. Dont believe trust etc its bullshit all of it!

A quick look through your profile shows at least at the top seems Judy and Vivian are two favourites of yours. Why are they your favourites? Could it be you trust them to give you good service? Have they given you above and beyond what normally they should? (Didnt read your reviews yet) Perhaps their friendship (their perception of you, not yours)trust and comfort with you allows them to do that?

I know you are our resident bargain hunter (saw some wallet saving posts from you lol) and we appreciate it because not all of us can afford to punt big, hell im a prime example. I was gobsmacked by some of the figures in the "how much have you spent on punting" thread. To counter this I just punt less.

Just be a little easier on the girls who are copping your Dick for peanuts. They are just making a living, and i guarantee it ain't an easy job.

You don't want to be a lonely heart forever do you?

[AHLUNGOR]

In short, what a wise punter one is to save money on getting fs in RnT ! ;) ;) ;)

The half hour massage plus fs in this case is more than going to a lot of fs places and get full sex from the start. If a massage girl will bend to accept $50 instead of $100 for fs as the kid said, she’s an wl, a cheap wl, he’ll be better going to see a wl.

Most RnT guys believe it’s an achievement to get fs from a massage girl, because they only do it for selected customers, ;) ;) ;) the fun is in the chase. But the kid said he’ll walk if the girl doesn’t accept $50 for fs, so why bother, there’s no chase involved, just bargaining, go to a brothel for the sure thing at a cheaper price !


Another wise man in brother Wil !! :miao::miao:

This bit is so true and over the years, plenty of seasoned RnT punters have either confirmed or emphasized that the challenge IS to get FS from a ML who usually DOESN'T do it. To break the ice or to eventually break/seduce/courtship the girl (not by force or violence of course!) into offering FS in the massage shop or outside is the ultimate challenge, some may even say the satisfaction from the chase could even be more satisfying than the sex itself when it finally happens !

Then what happens next ? the ML may never see the punter again once he had his trophy ! moving on to chase the next "NTI" innocent young ML ??

This is what RnT is all about, no ? for some !

[woods23]

Brother magickid3801,

Don't border with some moron in the space. They want to pretend they are gentlemen, big spender and expert....

Factcheck (God I love this word)

1 Most ML are indeed WL these days, they just roster in a massage shop "trying" to make more money doing the same job, why should we tolerate them?
2 Shops business are down even the ones that are previously busy all day, so perfectly ok to push the price down.
3 Never believe that trust and friendship bullshit and let you $$$ do the talking.

Just to give you all an idea. a girl FS work in a shop that charges 90 . 30 mins and 150 / hr, they get pay 60-70 and 100-110 respectively.

When they roster in massage shop the shop charge 40 /30 mins and 60/ hr. They get 15-20 and 25-30 respectively. So you only need to tip to make up the difference. That's why the girls don't like 1 hr jobs in massage shops cos you have to do massage and sex it is still only $50 tip.

■ Fact check( I love this word too) -u had more than 4 fkin fake usernames on the forum you moron!!


A shill for shops to get discounts !

Attack shops who refused to cooperate with you demand.

You will write bad AR if she charge too high for you liking !


Used your other fake names to bad mouth shops who charge higher price than others. All your theory of where to save a bucks. Like wilisno said - u will bargain till the cow come home for just $5 or 6 lol . You walked out down the road to other shop bcuz she charge $3 to high .


if u want "desparate sex " for fk sake just go to a fs shop ...why keep hassle these ml in rnt shop? Ohh $ 5 cheaper yes Haha.

Where isJohnny btw ?
Cheap ass too ?

[Happyman2018]

Nowaday i love going to rnt.
To me i felt like rnt is like doing a treasure hunt.
U don't know what u get, a hj, a fs or fs with bbbj, or even more.
N ofcoz down to the price.
Like some bros here said, they get it for certain amount of moneys or they get it free.
That the fun about rnt u just pay for the massage time n what ever come after part 1 is depend on the hunt.
But fs is already set, u know what u pay for n u expect to get wat u went there for.
If doesn't meet the standard, u either complain or write bad review on thid forum..
Like wilson said no chase no fun
Purely go for sex...
Doesn't matter how much u pay for part 3 in rnt it's depend on what u think is worth

[Warrabong]

Nowaday i love going to rnt.
To me i felt like rnt is like doing a treasure hunt.
U don't know what u get, a hj, a fs or fs with bbbj, or even more.
N ofcoz down to the price.
Like some bros here said, they get it for certain amount of moneys or they get it free.
That the fun about rnt u just pay for the massage time n what ever come after part 1 is depend on the hunt.
But fs is already set, u know what u pay for n u expect to get wat u went there for.
If doesn't meet the standard, u either complain or write bad review on thid forum..
Like wilson said no chase no fun
Purely go for sex...
Doesn't matter how much u pay for part 3 in rnt it's depend on what u think is worth

Totally agree with this post. I was in Miranda last week and shopping with the wife was not my priority so I went for a massage. Shops in Kingsway Miranda. 555 is supposed to be the goods.

However the girl was not that hot so I asked about fs upfront. She said no so after I pause I decided to leave and try the shop close by.

In there it was no better. For some reason I did not ask up front.

She offered nhj but was not a great looker so I only went for hj. First time in a long time as I’m a regular and know the girls where I go. Happy with the treasure hunt but lucked out.

Both shops were standard prices for part 2. $20 for hj and $50 for nhj.

[lonely heart]

Shops can only afford to give discounts if business is good. Overheads dont discount themselves, though the shop may dock pay from the girls to cover. Its a vicious cycle. With too many punters pressing for discounts, the shops likeliness of closing is high. Then, only the shops doing good business will remain which sounds good in theory... but means we have fewer shops which then hold a monopoly over the market. Which then leads to monopoly of prices and services. With no competition, those shops are free to do whatever they like. Now if those shops offer great girls at great prices, ok sure. But remember the line "free to do whatever they like".

The dynamics of the sex industries in Sydney does not go with that logic though. Many old timers will tell you 120 half and hour standard services use to be the norm and now 90 include BBBJ seems to be the norm. Even 479 price is not bad compare to the old days is you think how much you have to tip for the extra in the old days. Brothers can talk all they want about their spending but the fact is for the majority price has been keep same or even push down for the past two decade.



I remember when a KFC 2 piece feed used to be SIX bucks. It's now like double at least. Why, because Red Rooster isn't even on the same planet as KFC as far as competition goes. So no one is challenging the Colonel. Your going to buy that at double the price because you can't buy it anywhere else.

Ever heard of Dinner for one? The offer is still current. You can thank me later.....



3. Dont believe trust etc its bullshit all of it!

A quick look through your profile shows at least at the top seems Judy and Vivian are two favourites of yours. Why are they your favourites? Could it be you trust them to give you good service? Have they given you above and beyond what normally they should? (Didnt read your reviews yet) Perhaps their friendship (their perception of you, not yours)trust and comfort with you allows them to do that?

Trust me those two are first I would label "No money no honey." Most brother ask me about Vivian I told them she need "extra incentive" to perform, no exception to me. in simple english, I never pay a girl standard if they have done extra work, I may be able to get away from it but I don't feel its fair. There had been a few occasion that girls offer me services for a discounted rate (free in two occasions). Such situation they always want something in return and I always live up to my end of the bargain.



I know you are our resident bargain hunter (saw some wallet saving posts from you lol) and we appreciate it because not all of us can afford to punt big, hell im a prime example. I was gobsmacked by some of the figures in the "how much have you spent on punting" thread. To counter this I just punt less.

Just be a little easier on the girls who are copping your Dick for peanuts. They are just making a living, and i guarantee it ain't an easy job.


Man all have bad habits and trust me punting is the cheapest one. I estimate I spend about 8K a year. So that is a property deposit gone if you count how long I've been on this forum... See why i have to habit to make every dollar count.

As to the others...

So RNT punter likes the feel that they are special!! OK got it...

Just a note of simple logic though, if you see a girl in a more expensive shop, they will never tell you where else they work cos they think you will go to those cheaper place instead. Good way to keep the customer feeling "SPECIAL"

On the other hand girls have no problem telling me they roster in more expensive shops knowing that I am regular at where we met. to give you a few example

1) Ginza top girl (I see her wechat with Ginza talking roster), I meet her in inner west massage shop for 1 hour $110 (CBJ though), then again in 60 Chatswood.

2) Another MILF Excellent massage and EXCELLENT part two and three. Campsie price and I saw he multiple time. Also roster in Pyrmont and Bondi NHJ shops.

3) One SYT who is great fuck I meet in massage shop liverpool area. ($100 tip I gave her for the EXCELLENT service). Go see her in Burwood RNT, will cost yo the same for a standard part 3.

The fact is I know at least 15-20 girl that I seen in cheaper shops are currently rostering themselves one or two days in NHJ shops (yes I talk to girls about these stuff). My point is next time you think you are "SPECIAL".... think again!!

[GoldfishMan]

The dynamics of the sex industries in Sydney does not go with that logic though. Many old timers will tell you 120 half and hour standard services use to be the norm and now 90 include BBBJ seems to be the norm. Even 479 price is not bad compare to the old days is you think how much you have to tip for the extra in the old days. Brothers can talk all they want about their spending but the fact is for the majority price has been keep same or even push down for the past two decade.



Ever heard of Dinner for one? The offer is still current. You can thank me later.....



Trust me those two are first I would label "No money no honey." Most brother ask me about Vivian I told them she need "extra incentive" to perform, no exception to me. in simple english, I never pay a girl standard if they have done extra work, I may be able to get away from it but I don't feel its fair. There had been a few occasion that girls offer me services for a discounted rate (free in two occasions). Such situation they always want something in return and I always live up to my end of the bargain.



Man all have bad habits and trust me punting is the cheapest one. I estimate I spend about 8K a year. So that is a property deposit gone if you count how long I've been on this forum... See why i have to habit to make every dollar count.

As to the others...

So RNT punter likes the feel that they are special!! OK got it...

Just a note of simple logic though, if you see a girl in a more expensive shop, they will never tell you where else they work cos they think you will go to those cheaper place instead. Good way to keep the customer feeling "SPECIAL"

On the other hand girls have no problem telling me they roster in more expensive shops knowing that I am regular at where we met. to give you a few example

1) Ginza top girl (I see her wechat with Ginza talking roster), I meet her in inner west massage shop for 1 hour $110 (CBJ though), then again in 60 Chatswood.

2) Another MILF Excellent massage and EXCELLENT part two and three. Campsie price and I saw he multiple time. Also roster in Pyrmont and Bondi NHJ shops.

3) One SYT who is great fuck I meet in massage shop liverpool area. ($100 tip I gave her for the EXCELLENT service). Go see her in Burwood RNT, will cost yo the same for a standard part 3.

The fact is I know at least 15-20 girl that I seen in cheaper shops are currently rostering themselves one or two days in NHJ shops (yes I talk to girls about these stuff). My point is next time you think you are "SPECIAL".... think again!!
Not sure about the "feeling special" part. I just go to RNT for these reasons:
- Convenience because they are in the CBD
- The only other options in the CBD are in-call privates or agencies. Those cost more than RNT + FS, and worst thing is you can't go in and say "I don't like the look of the girl, I'll just pay $70 for a massage and HJ"
- Sometimes I go into a period where I get allergic to condoms. Once the condom goes on, little boy goes soft. So I just go for HJ for relief.
- I also sometimes get sick of the WL shop routine.... go into room, shower, go to the bed.... too many WL punts can do that to you. So I go to RNT or privates for a change.

I personally never bargain with MLs. If the price they quote is above what I'm willing to pay, I just turn down the offer and settle for HJ. Sometimes they come back with a lower offer, most times I just end up with a HJ. Once you have to start haggling with them like buying a piece of pork belly at the market, the end result is you get an unwilling sex partner (which BTW might actually be a turn-on for some people, but certainly not me!).

[trick]

I have been charged
$50 - standard RnT, and sometime DATY
$80 - BBBJ
$100 - FS

On top of massage fee

[sukeong]

$100fs in city area is real good price. I mean on average. I heard of 200 and more.

Of course If someone you are unattracted to any price is expensive.

[annintofu]

Totally agree with this post. I was in Miranda last week and shopping with the wife was not my priority so I went for a massage. Shops in Kingsway Miranda. 555 is supposed to be the goods.

However the girl was not that hot so I asked about fs upfront. She said no so after I pause I decided to leave and try the shop close by.

In there it was no better. For some reason I did not ask up front.

She offered nhj but was not a great looker so I only went for hj. First time in a long time as I’m a regular and know the girls where I go. Happy with the treasure hunt but lucked out.

Both shops were standard prices for part 2. $20 for hj and $50 for nhj.

agree with your approach in spirit. only that I'd go further: if there are no looker, i just walk, won't even pay for the massage, let alone a clothed hj.

[annintofu]

- Sometimes I go into a period where I get allergic to condoms. Once the condom goes on, little boy goes soft. So I just go for HJ for relief.

Wow, i thought i was the only one who had this problem. good to know i wasn't alone.



I personally never bargain with MLs. If the price they quote is above what I'm willing to pay, I just turn down the offer and settle for HJ. Sometimes they come back with a lower offer, most times I just end up with a HJ. Once you have to start haggling with them like buying a piece of pork belly at the market, the end result is you get an unwilling sex partner (which BTW might actually be a turn-on for some people, but certainly not me!).
Fully agree with what you said here, and that's exactly what i do in a RNT shop.

[Pleck]

Wow, i thought i was the only one who had this problem. good to know i wasn't alone.


Fully agree with what you said here, and that's exactly what i do in a RNT shop.

Pay the girls what they are worth, that's what you want in your job

[Akeem75]

Cannot agree more. Looking at the prices quoted I think I am paying a lot more. But it’s worth it!! I have been offered less money but it’s usually an ML I am not interested in. And the ones I am interested in I think it’s worth the extra dosh!!!!

[iphone]

for me at RnT shops:
1 hour massage fee + $50 tips for 1 hour for FS is too low for the girl i usually slid in $10-20 more and the girl will be happy.
but if 1 hour massage fee + $50 tips for 1 hour for just NHJ without much touching etc, then i feel it is way too expensive.

[AHLUNGOR]

Cannot agree more. Looking at the prices quoted I think I am paying a lot more. But it’s worth it!! I have been offered less money but it’s usually an ML I am not interested in. And the ones I am interested in I think it’s worth the extra dosh!!!!

I think we have all been there - may be with a few exceptions around...........haha - what I meant was, for most of us RnT punters, from time to time/or only once in a while, we ran into someone in a shop, quite by accident, but you just click so well with the girl, won't say love at first sight, but more like finding a long lost friend or just the right girl you have been looking for , or whatever feelings you may have at the time - but you get that, right ?

And may be not right from the start, but perhaps the feelings grow stronger and build up after a few sessions as the "relationship" and special rapports between you two also grow closer, you just have that feeling and urge that you want to make love with her ? not the animal instinct of fuck and go, but really really sweetly sweetly love making ?

And money is never an obstacle under those circumstances (on your part), right ? if she is willing to take your money and let you in ! Then we have another most discussed topics in this forum - seeing the ML outside of the shop..............lol

Just my two cents.

May be it's just me ??

Cheers

[F0x]

I think we have all been there - may be with a few exceptions around...........haha - what I meant was, for most of us RnT punters, from time to time/or only once in a while, we ran into someone in a shop, quite by accident, but you just click so well with the girl, won't say love at first sight, but more like finding a long lost friend or just the right girl you have been looking for , or whatever feelings you may have at the time - but you get that, right ?

And may be not right from the start, but perhaps the feelings grow stronger and build up after a few sessions as the "relationship" and special rapports between you two also grow closer, you just have that feeling and urge that you want to make love with her ? not the animal instinct of fuck and go, but really really sweetly sweetly love making ?

And money is never an obstacle under those circumstances (on your part), right ? if she is willing to take your money and let you in ! Then we have another most discussed topics in this forum - seeing the ML outside of the shop..............lol

Just my two cents.

May be it's just me ??

Cheers

Absolutely.

Some more cynical/transactional based punters would probably heavily disagree, however, there isnt much that can beat the feeling of going back to a favourite ML, who throws herself into your arms because she misses time with you.

You "play" for the whole session with no massage, and after a few times, if you really gel, tips are even frowned upon.

"Im happy to spend time with you, I dont mind openng up to you, so ffs dont cheapen the experience by giving me money for this".

Would be what I think would be going through their heads.

Humans are complex and diverse creatures, females exponentially so.

But yeah, if you walk the path of "more money for more honey", thats ok too.

[AHLUNGOR]

Abolutely.

Some more cynical/transactional based punters would probably heavily disagree, however, there isnt much that can beat the feeling of going back to a favourite ML, who throws herself into your arms because she misses time with you.

You "play" for the whole session with no massage, and after a few times, if you really gel, tips are even frowned upon.

"Im happy to spend time with you, I dont mind openng up to you, so ffs dont cheapen the experience by giving me money for this".

Would be what I think would be going through their heads.

Humans are complex and diverse creatures, females exponentially so.

But yeah, if walk the path of "more money for more honey", thats ok too.


I think there should be a distinction between some of the RnT hunters vs us mortal punters who are still romantic at heart ??

For example, a lovely young HK ML ex 501 used to tell me, there's a punter over at David's other shop who just wanted to have FS with her and keep putting more money on the table (up to a thousand dollars in cash !!/??) I think this was a cheap act although lots of cash involved, it's like forcing the girl into prostitution (sorry, in my mind, there is still a line between a WL and a ML as she can still choose !) rather than earning the rapport to get to the next level. I know, in the end, there ain't no difference, a fuck is a fuck, right, some of you may say!

But to me, this is what RnT is all about, while you could get EVERYTHING in a MS, but ultimately, it is still the girl's own choice, she may do it with just you, or indeed many people, but she can still say NO to any punter whom she didn't want to serve. unlike in a FS where the WL can't choose.

Just my two cents,

Cheers

[Happyman2018]

I think there should be a distinction between some of the RnT hunters vs us mortal punters who are still romantic at heart ??

For example, a lovely young HK ML ex 501 used to tell me, there's a punter over at David's other shop who just wanted to have FS with her and keep putting more money on the table (up to a thousand dollars in cash !!/??) I think this was a cheap act although lots of cash involved, it's like forcing the girl into prostitution (sorry, in my mind, there is still a line between a WL and a ML as she can still choose !) rather than earning the rapport to get to the next level. I know, in the end, there ain't no difference, a fuck is a fuck, right, some of you may say!

But to me, this is what RnT is all about, while you could get EVERYTHING in a MS, but ultimately, it is still the girl's own choice, she may do it with just you, or indeed many people, but she can still say NO to any punter whom she didn't want to serve. unlike in a FS where the WL can't choose.

Just my two cents,

Cheers

Totally agree.

Wl can't choice who they want to fuck, because they already know they r there for a fuck..
They can get to choice is they want 2 d printer a bb or no bb...

But ml can choose only massage, massage with hj clothes on, or clothes off, fs, for free n etc.
They have d say..
The shop owner can't force them because they know it's illegal...

[Raybo]

The shop owner can't force them because they know it's illegal...

That's not to say a shop owner or Mamasan can't make an MLs life difficult or even sack them if they don't provide those extra extras, like some of the other MLs in the shop!

[lonely heart]

I think there should be a distinction between some of the RnT hunters vs us mortal punters who are still romantic at heart ??

For example, a lovely young HK ML ex 501 used to tell me, there's a punter over at David's other shop who just wanted to have FS with her and keep putting more money on the table (up to a thousand dollars in cash !!/??) I think this was a cheap act although lots of cash involved, it's like forcing the girl into prostitution (sorry, in my mind, there is still a line between a WL and a ML as she can still choose !) rather than earning the rapport to get to the next level. I know, in the end, there ain't no difference, a fuck is a fuck, right, some of you may say!

But to me, this is what RnT is all about, while you could get EVERYTHING in a MS, but ultimately, it is still the girl's own choice, she may do it with just you, or indeed many people, but she can still say NO to any punter whom she didn't want to serve. unlike in a FS where the WL can't choose.

Just my two cents,

Cheers

There is a difference back then, first price was lower, $50 free HJ plus 1 hour massage. So you are never feeling empty handed. I often get BBBJ and nude for just $20 tip back then in Billy's and Alice's. Also there use to be more genuinely part timer too.

For those who know, will I surprise you that this HK girl and her other "three friends" that we all know so well has roasted in FS shops too? Thats why toward her last days in David's shop, she has no problem do FS but also at a much lower price, it was all an act (this was discussed in another deleted thread when someone disclosed that she resurface in Chatswood). Amyway, this is all history now...


It may be surprise to you all that all the situation you guys mentioned.... I've done it all.

18 years ML throw herself at me free of charge.... funny 6-7 years later I find out her true intention (I was Naive back then.)

Young and popular ML (still on market now) taking days off and drive me two hours for a weekend (I pay for hotel and food of course).. I still not sure if she actually like me for the time we were together? Cos eventually i find she easily "like" others too.

these are just two examples.....

Fucking the unfuckable, dashing out more cash just because there is a special interest in a girl, someone who my friend fuck her brains out but won'y do more that a NHJ for me.... been there, seen it, done it!!

I am sure there are still genuinely part timer today but just seem like a needle in a haystack.....

[eepee]

I think there should be a distinction between some of the RnT hunters vs us mortal punters who are still romantic at heart ??

For example, a lovely young HK ML ex 501 used to tell me, there's a punter over at David's other shop who just wanted to have FS with her and keep putting more money on the table (up to a thousand dollars in cash !!/??) I think this was a cheap act although lots of cash involved, it's like forcing the girl into prostitution (sorry, in my mind, there is still a line between a WL and a ML as she can still choose !) rather than earning the rapport to get to the next level. I know, in the end, there ain't no difference, a fuck is a fuck, right, some of you may say!

But to me, this is what RnT is all about, while you could get EVERYTHING in a MS, but ultimately, it is still the girl's own choice, she may do it with just you, or indeed many people, but she can still say NO to any punter whom she didn't want to serve. unlike in a FS where the WL can't choose.

Just my two cents,

Cheers

I like the thought of this, probably because i'm a romantic at heart.

[Eclipsefun]

I think there should be a distinction between some of the RnT hunters vs us mortal punters who are still romantic at heart ??

For example, a lovely young HK ML ex 501 used to tell me, there's a punter over at David's other shop who just wanted to have FS with her and keep putting more money on the table (up to a thousand dollars in cash !!/??) I think this was a cheap act although lots of cash involved, it's like forcing the girl into prostitution (sorry, in my mind, there is still a line between a WL and a ML as she can still choose !) rather than earning the rapport to get to the next level. I know, in the end, there ain't no difference, a fuck is a fuck, right, some of you may say!

But to me, this is what RnT is all about, while you could get EVERYTHING in a MS, but ultimately, it is still the girl's own choice, she may do it with just you, or indeed many people, but she can still say NO to any punter whom she didn't want to serve. unlike in a FS where the WL can't choose.

Just my two cents,

Cheers

Nothing to disagree with here. I will just add that there is also a different kind of excitement to fucking a ML than fucking a WL. I mean both are good of course. But when you reach that point with a ML it does feel different because partly the rooms are just not set up to facilitate easy sex which makes it feel impromptu and organic. The girl often has to leave the room to go and get condoms so the mamasan will know what is happening too, which makes it like a fun dirty secret shared between you all.

[woods23]

Nothing to disagree with here. I will just add that there is also a different kind of excitement to fucking a ML than fucking a WL. I mean both are good of course. But when you reach that point with a ML it does feel different because partly the rooms are just not set up to facilitate easy sex which makes it feel impromptu and organic. The girl often has to leave the room to go and get condoms so the mamasan will know what is happening too, which makes it like a fun dirty secret shared between you all.

Mamasan already know what I'm up to when I keep seeing the same girl all the time. What ? Her again try others they good too. No secrets Hahaha

[cuteguy]

Mamasan already know what I'm up to when I keep seeing the same girl all the time. What ? Her again try others they good too. No secrets Hahaha

She must be providing a special service if you keep visiting the same girl. Not bored at all with the same girl?

[CharlieM]

I've been frequenting one of the more popular licensed RnT places. Where you pay upfront to the receptionist the total amount, lets say $90 30mins and $125 hour. I Always go without booking as i like the idea of the lucky dip. Anyway the last time I went of a Monday morning, for the first time ever, when I had rolled over for pt2, whilst she was playing with my cock the ML asked if i wanted a BJ for 50 bucks...I couldn't resist and said ok. She gave me a great covered BJ. But when I was in the car driving away, I thought to myself, SWow $125 + $50= $175.

[wilisno]

I've been frequenting one of the more popular licensed RnT places. Where you pay upfront to the receptionist the total amount, lets say $90 30mins and $125 hour. I Always go without booking as i like the idea of the lucky dip. Anyway the last time I went of a Monday morning, for the first time ever, when I had rolled over for pt2, whilst she was playing with my cock the ML asked if i wanted a BJ for 50 bucks...I couldn't resist and said ok. She gave me a great covered BJ. But when I was in the car driving away, I thought to myself, SWow $125 + $50= $175.

$175 for CBJ, ;) ;) ;) then you get the feeling of hitting the jackpot by clicking with the girl, scoring a special treat ! Maybe worth it ? ;) ;) ;)

90 minutes for under $A30 in Vietnam, all inclusive including Sauna, Spa, all types of massage techniques and happy ending in BBBJ ;) ;) ;)

P.S. Girls are generally younger than here....

[eepee]

She must be providing a special service if you keep visiting the same girl. Not bored at all with the same girl?

Sometimes it's nice to eat the same meal over and over again ;)

[eepee]

I've been frequenting one of the more popular licensed RnT places. Where you pay upfront to the receptionist the total amount, lets say $90 30mins and $125 hour. I Always go without booking as i like the idea of the lucky dip. Anyway the last time I went of a Monday morning, for the first time ever, when I had rolled over for pt2, whilst she was playing with my cock the ML asked if i wanted a BJ for 50 bucks...I couldn't resist and said ok. She gave me a great covered BJ. But when I was in the car driving away, I thought to myself, SWow $125 + $50= $175.

Was it worth it though?

[eepee]

$175 for CBJ, ;) ;) ;) then you get the feeling of hitting the jackpot by clicking with the girl, scoring a special treat ! Maybe worth it ? ;) ;) ;)

90 minutes for under $A30 in Vietnam, all inclusive including Sauna, Spa, all types of massage techniques and happy ending in BBBJ ;) ;) ;)

P.S. Girls are generally younger than here....

Punting tour of Vietnam anyone?

[wilisno]

She must be providing a special service if you keep visiting the same girl. Not bored at all with the same girl?

Ask Assandlegs ! ;) ;) ;)

[woods23]

She must be providing a special service if you keep visiting the same girl. Not bored at all with the same girl?

She said special meal -" only for you " so no Hahaha :p :p

[iphone]

90 minutes for under $A30 in Vietnam, all inclusive including Sauna, Spa, all types of massage techniques and happy ending in BBBJ ;) ;) ;
P.S. Girls are generally younger than here....

If I have a chance to visit Vietnam one day hopefully you'll be able to give some pointers before hand... So interested in this...thanks

[AHLUNGOR]

I've been frequenting one of the more popular licensed RnT places. Where you pay upfront to the receptionist the total amount, lets say $90 30mins and $125 hour. I Always go without booking as i like the idea of the lucky dip. Anyway the last time I went of a Monday morning, for the first time ever, when I had rolled over for pt2, whilst she was playing with my cock the ML asked if i wanted a BJ for 50 bucks...I couldn't resist and said ok. She gave me a great covered BJ. But when I was in the car driving away, I thought to myself, SWow $125 + $50= $175.

That shop sounded like Sydney Baby?

May be you should give 227 Broadway a try, similar fully licensed RnT but the shop will list which girl is opened minded = will provide a CBJ with $30 tip ! To me that’s more open and you get what you paid for but then again you also said you like the “lucky dip” , so, each to his own ?

[wilisno]

If I have a chance to visit Vietnam one day hopefully you'll be able to give some pointers before hand... So interested in this...thanks

I’ve written it on Outside Australia section.

Anyway, my favourite one is Hanh Long on Tran Hung Dao st District 5, because I live close by. Make sure the sign says Foot Massage, because there is another Hanh Long hotel 100 meters away.

[CharlieM]

Was it worth it though?
This girl had the best tits...and I was getting hard with the part2...when she went to get the condom I went soft, then she did something I never had done to me before....she put the condom on with me soft and partly with her mouth and she continued blowing till I got hard again and until I blew. Yes, i enjoyed it and come to think of it, I guess it was worth it.

[studsg]

I've been frequenting one of the more popular licensed RnT places. Where you pay upfront to the receptionist the total amount, lets say $90 30mins and $125 hour. I Always go without booking as i like the idea of the lucky dip. Anyway the last time I went of a Monday morning, for the first time ever, when I had rolled over for pt2, whilst she was playing with my cock the ML asked if i wanted a BJ for 50 bucks...I couldn't resist and said ok. She gave me a great covered BJ. But when I was in the car driving away, I thought to myself, SWow $125 + $50= $175.$90 for 30mins or $125 for 1 hour. That sounds like the rate for room + NHJ already included.

For example a typical 30min room rate is $40 + NHJ $50 that's your $90.

So if your $50 on top means you upgraded from NHJ to CBJ for $100. That's a little steep.

I once had a ML offer me CBJ for extra $30 and BBBJ for extra $50. I was thinking, you spend more money buying a condom and swallowing the spermicide on that condom maybe you should price it the other way around ?? Anyways told her I was happy with the cap on... Wasn't going to pay $100 for a BBBJ.

[yowser]

For shops that charge NHJ-included prices you pay directly to the shop, its more pricey to ask for part 3, and its all to do with psychology/perception.
For example if its usually $100 for part 3, if you paid massage-only prices directly to the shop, then you would pay $100 to the ML and she thinks she "keeps" $100.
If you paid NHJ-included price directly to the shop, and you offered the ML $50 for part 3 (at the end you are still paying $100), the girl only thinks she "keeps" $50

[everydaydee]

I’ve only had a part 3 experience before and that was for $70 on top.

[liminal]

I think there should be a distinction between some of the RnT hunters vs us mortal punters who are still romantic at heart ??

For example, a lovely young HK ML ex 501 used to tell me, there's a punter over at David's other shop who just wanted to have FS with her and keep putting more money on the table (up to a thousand dollars in cash !!/??) I think this was a cheap act although lots of cash involved, it's like forcing the girl into prostitution (sorry, in my mind, there is still a line between a WL and a ML as she can still choose !) rather than earning the rapport to get to the next level. I know, in the end, there ain't no difference, a fuck is a fuck, right, some of you may say!

But to me, this is what RnT is all about, while you could get EVERYTHING in a MS, but ultimately, it is still the girl's own choice, she may do it with just you, or indeed many people, but she can still say NO to any punter whom she didn't want to serve. unlike in a FS where the WL can't choose.

Just my two cents,

Cheers

I get everything you are saying and agree. However IMO and thought ... ML or WL , interchangeable terms with the difference been the establishment. Sure a ML may ‘choose to do FS or not or not at all . But it’s just splitting hairs . It’s sex work

[Raybo]

I know some of the girls at SBM offer BJ for extra $50 and FS for $100 which I def would not pay considering the NHJ is included in the upfront fee to mamasan. Most the girls there are advertised as open minded but I've never asked. I feel it's better for them to offer and usually when they do it's much better because you've built up some rapport with them.

There are plenty of girls on the SBM roster from the pics I have seen that I would gladly pay $100 extra for FS if I was in the mood. $220 for an hour is a very competitive rate, especially if FS is around 'Diamond' service levels. I know plenty of MLs that want to charge way more than that.

[Labia Vortex]

Going Rate for a BJ ... is $30/$40
Any more and you are being rorted

[lucky59]

Going Rate for a BJ ... is $30/$40
Any more and you are being rorted

Surely this is Asian prices you refer to? What about Caucasian girls?

[TangoEcho]

Surely this is Asian prices you refer to? What about Caucasian girls?

Probably about $50 and it will be CBJ

[Pcnut]

What is the chance that Caucasian girls in the RNT Shop offer part 3?

[aussiegaigin]

Massage fee + $100 sounds pretty standard for FS. I wouldn't want to pay more than that but I do wonder if you could negotiate down to about $70 if you are a regular.
.

Most things in life are negotiable. Depends on how good you are at it.

[samytomy]

For ML, $50 with MIf, $100 with young good looking girls including BBBJ, if asked over $100 I may go FS shop.

[mp.syd]

It’s all dependent on the girl and quite possibly the day they’ve had. I’m by no means as experienced as others around here but I’ve seen everything from an upfront statement before she’d finished closing the door of my rates are $250 for FS, to ending up at $30 for a ride (and it was a good ride).

[azza1234]

Usually its $100 for me when I go and ask SBM girls

[incorgnit0]

New guy here. Checked the abbreviation thread and didn't see it (maybe it should be updated), but what are parts 1, 2, and 3?

[Ragefrog]

New guy here. Checked the abbreviation thread and didn't see it (maybe it should be updated), but what are parts 1, 2, and 3?

Part 1: Massage
Part 2: HJ w/ Clothes or Nude HJ
Part 3: BJ and/or Intercourse

[kingwally]

Part 1: Massage
Part 2: BJ
Part 3: Intercourse

From my experience...

Part 1 : Massage
Part 2 : NHJ
Part 3 : BJ and/or fucking.

[woods23]

From my experience...

Part 1 : Massage
Part 2 : NHJ
Part 3 : BJ and/or fucking.

Whats part 4 nd 5 ?

[wilisno]

Whats part 4 nd 5 ?

4: Anal
5. Snowballing

You’ve done it all ! ;) ;) ;)

[B J Hunter]

4: Anal
5. Snowballing

You’ve done it all ! ;) ;) ;)

Let’s not forget Felching at No.6

[B J Hunter]

I can see some poor google analyst saying ‘hey boss we’ve just had a spike in the search engine for Felching’. Ok put it in the end of week report for mgmt’.

[local]

Let’s not forget Felching at No.6

Wasn't that one of BC's fetishes ?

[warwick1]

Wasn't that one of BC's fetishes ?

I am an old cunt ,never heard of Felching, can anyone elaborate???

[fud]

No doubt there would be a spike as I saw this from a search!
Felching is the sexual act of licking or sucking semen out of a partner's anus.

[warwick1]

No doubt there would be a spike as I saw this from a search!
Felching is the sexual act of licking or sucking semen out of a partner's anus.

Interesting, but I might leave that one for my next life:grimace::grimace:

[TheMaestro]

That sounds like a brother BC special!

[B J Hunter]

So glad I have enlightened many with the act of felching. Yes it is a hard one to swallow when you first find out what it is!!!
Probably would’ve been more useful on the Thai Ladyboy thread, but I’m sure those fans were already aware.
Could be a few punters out there on Friday having a chat with their ML/WL ‘hey baby there’s something new I’d like to try can you accomodate for felching. Hopefully google translate can help you explain that!
And bucket list guy... have you got that one on your list?

[CFM001]

Props to brother BC if that is what he is into...

[the_boss_king]

my friend once tipped a girl at Julie's 500, the same girl I tipped before 100.

boy we had some laughs afterwards !

[Labia Vortex]

Going Rate Pt 3... around $100

[the_boss_king]

the cheapest I paid was 50, most expensive 250 ymmv with everyone

[cuteguy]

my friend once tipped a girl at Julie's 500, the same girl I tipped before 100.

boy we had some laughs afterwards !

Did your friend say it was his first time and not knowing the going rate was overcharged?

[the_boss_king]

Did your friend say it was his first time and not knowing the going rate was overcharged?

its a massage parlour, with hand / cbj.

they not really meant to offer it, but you find ones that do.

with my mate, he was just intoxicated and over offered.

[cuteguy]

its a massage parlour, with hand / cbj.

they not really meant to offer it, but you find ones that do.

with my mate, he was just intoxicated and over offered.

Unless money is no object to your friend, maybe your friend should stay sober next time he heads over to a massage shop or you should take his wallet away so he doesn't give out generous tips.

[vitrium]

I've paid as little as $50 for FS and as much as $200, at RnT joints. Depends entirely on the girl. I find most ask for around $150. Some will take less. I can usually get them down to around $70-$100. Not always though. Sometimes they are stubborn haha.

You really need to do the math though. +$150 on top of what you paid for the massage is quite a lot of money. You can get Diamond service at some pretty good quality brothels for around that.

It's generally not worth it at a RnT joint, unless they are super hot/good at fucking. Or you can get them down on price.

[woods23]

Unless money is no object to your friend, maybe your friend should stay sober next time he heads over to a massage shop or you should take his wallet away so he doesn't give out generous tips.

At Korean rnt the crazy guys tips crazy money. Is pretty normal there is not a big deal...specially at m8.

Guy would pay big just watch the girl cum for him haha. Definitely a rich crazy man thing

[moz]

I've paid as little as $50 for FS and as much as $200, at RnT joints.

At $ 50 are you talking on top of all-inc rate?
So 1hr 110-120 ++

Or are you talking on top of base massage rate
So 1hr 60-70++

[GoldfishMan]

At Korean rnt the crazy guys tips crazy money. Is pretty normal there is not a big deal...specially at m8.

Guy would pay big just watch the girl cum for him haha. Definitely a rich crazy man thing
Or he had a big win at the casino. Or my fave, guy has too much cash from selling dodgy stuff so why not burn a small amount to enjoy himself? He can't really bank it. The list goes on. I don't judge.

I personally tip as little as possible to get part 3 on new girls(they ask for $100 - $300, I get it for $100 - $150, never more than that), but if she's one of my regulars I give more than what she asks for. Just a little something to lubricate the relationship.

I also do not really negotiate the price because I find it a turn off. Instead I really decide not to go for part 3 if I find that it's not worth it. Almost all of them dropped their prices when I say no to part 3.

[HardCore]

Agree with GoldFish, I don't negotiate for FS, in my mind I set a price and if the offer fits what I'm thinking then I decide on yes or no from there. Some girls say OK and we carry on with other extras, some girls drop the price. Generally I will pay between $100 and $200 for FS, although more often than not it is closer to a $100 tip.

[james912]

Do most of you guys initiate part 3? or the masseur would do it? Just wondering coz I don't speak Chinese.

[surething91]

Do most of you guys initiate part 3? or the masseur would do it? Just wondering coz I don't speak Chinese.
It really depends. I can iniate it if the girl is really nice and I'm really horny. But it happened the girl iniate it too. I don't speak chinese too and this is not an issue at all ahah. Also maybe you can get more lucky with part 3 with thai girls but this is just my feeling.

If the girl says no or a very high price I don't insist of course. You should never push things!

[letsgo]

I pretty much set myself a limit of $100 but I haven't been quoted much more than that for fs.

There's been times girls quote $100 for b2b and I knock those back real quick.

[yowser]

I pretty much set myself a limit of $100 but I haven't been quoted much more than that for fs.

I used to do this but recently learned that in some situations, while its good to have a price target in mind, going a bit higher to $150 when the girls asks for it results in better sex. Its always ymmv.

[gthgrt]

Haven't been past part 2 yet, but in these situations the punter needs to bring the condom if they're trying for part 3 right?

[surething91]

Haven't been past part 2 yet, but in these situations the punter needs to bring the condom if they're trying for part 3 right?
Don't worry if it's on offer they have everything you need. The girl wouldn't miss a chance to make some extra cash.

[GoldfishMan]

Don't worry if it's on offer they have everything you need. The girl wouldn't miss a chance to make some extra cash.
If she initiates the transaction, she'll have it handy. If she doesn't normally do fs and that somehow becomes available during the session, you will need to BYO condom.
The condoms they provide will always be the worst quality types. It will be nothing special to enhance your enjoyment, so it's still better to BYO even if they have it.

[avnyyy]

Do you guys think offering the tip as soon as you enter the room increases chances for part 3, opposed to negotiating after the flip (esp for shops where you pay for happy ending upfront to the mamasan)?


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[AHLUNGOR]

Do you guys think offering the tip as soon as you enter the room increases chances for part 3, opposed to negotiating after the flip (esp for shops where you pay for happy ending upfront to the mamasan)?


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If it’s on it’s on !

I mean if the ML is usually offering part 3, then it wouldn’t really matter. But by confirming and tipping upfront, it sets the scene and the ML knows her income from your session is assured, then it’s win win all around. Also, if you don’t really need any part 1, it definitely is an advantage so no time wasted !

[ML_Lover]

I very rarely ask unless the girl is totally horny - so maybe that’s why I’ve never been asked for more than +$50 for fs - occasionally less. ($65 +$50 +$50)

[Raybo]

With the exception of ML_lover, whom only seems to post to tell us how good he thinks he is, guys on this thread say they pay $100 for FS which is on top of standard $50 NHJ tip? So $150 tip? More than reasonable I say.

[ML_Lover]

Lol, I just try really hard to make the ml enjoy my company. Charming, friendly, funny, different - Ml’s are human - if they like u, money is less important.

[Raybo]

Lol, I just try really hard to make the ml enjoy my company. Charming, friendly, funny, different - Ml’s are human - if they like u, money is less important.

I doubt most MLs are fooled by this game play, which it is.....laugh at your stupid jokes, blush at your lame compliments, agree with your moronic ideals, if they can undesrstand it. it is all part of the job.

[Dettol]

Never haggle or negotiate rates for extras.

Best to either ask the ML what extras on offer or if she asked if you want extras, just ask if she does “everything”.

If she doesn’t, she can tell you what she’s comfortable with.

Zero awkwardness and everyone is comfortable.

Lastly, $100 for FS is the most I would pay unless it’s when I encounter those who are considerably more attractive than an average ML and/or if they possess mastery of GFE.

Harumi formerly of DOS, Renee formerly of Sussex Star, and maybe a couple of others over the years. Not a lot of experience in massage compared to some others in this forum.

[Rackster]

If youre going for more than a massage, go to a FS shop, much more economical, and much more time.

[warwick1]

I reckon $65 for the massage + $150 is pretty fair on both sides especially if you know the girl and you dont have to go through any negotiating and you both know whats going to happen....I actually agree with Captain Clap (Raybo) on this one.

[GoldfishMan]

With the exception of ML_lover, whom only seems to post to tell us how good he thinks he is, guys on this thread say they pay $100 for FS which is on top of standard $50 NHJ tip? So $150 tip? More than reasonable I say.
Lol @ the ML_Lover comment. That's the way he is bro, let him be.

The $ amounts I posted were the total tip, so you only add the massage price to it, not the "standard tip". And also, those $ amounts include offers that I have not taken up. Off the top of my head, I have never agreed to pay more than $150 for any girl I am seeing for the first time. I think I paid $150 to 2 particularly leggy, lithe and young Chinese lasses at DOS years ago (Chloe and another one I can't remember her name but I do remember she spoke Canto).

For girls I return to, I sometimes give even bigger tips. It just ensures better service from a girl that I know can satisfy me. There's no point paying more to an unknown girl. You might find out after agreeing, that there's something "intrinsically" wrong with her... Eg. Loose pussy, flabby body once the kit comes off, etc.

[GoldfishMan]

If youre going for more than a massage, go to a FS shop, much more economical, and much more time.
This is true. However, I have a bit of a fetish for the whole "massage-turns-into-sex" scenario. There's actually a lot of porno dedicated to this, hehe.

[AHLUNGOR]

I very rarely ask unless the girl is totally horny - so maybe that’s why I’ve never been asked for more than +$50 for fs - occasionally less. ($65 +$50 +$50)


Bring back 501 Newtown!

Where the $30/30 min massage used to include a free clothed HJ - like what you would get from the very pretty, young and busty - but unfortunately non nude Michelle !! But I tipped her the $20 anyway when she allowed me to have a feel of what I can’t have over clothes !

Back then, a $20 tip will get a nude HJ so all up $50, a $50 tip would let you go all way with top busty MLs such as Jojo and Sasa. Those were the days ! That was what RnT is all about !

[woods23]

Like gold fish man. I always increase my tip once she become a good regular. Not just fs. Like daty...first time will tip $20 then increase to $50. Fs...$100 then increase to $150 maximum always 90mins...I don't increase more tip if she increases more extra later on like dfk bbbj cim or more .

Had over few over $200+ is just once off . I don't mind pay more if she worth it even if $500 ... Nothing beats fcking a tough ymmv ml once of a life time opportunity ( haven't had that chance yet still waiting for the that special one )

I believe that once she a good regular more money won't get you better services, the money is less relevant at this stage.

But of cos never be a tight ass Tip what u get !!! Don't let the girl fool you thinking wow she didn't ask for more tip she liked me alot ...naive thinking She won't be your ml for long to risk losing a potential hot Gem to save a few dollars!
Nothing is free in this world or rarely

[mansahar]

Had a few shoddy girls who worked at Top Ryde 190 pre-pandemic (around early 2019) that was asking for extra $100-150 for either CBJ or FS. I've always hated international students who openly shows their greed but I've only accepted paying ONCE to a Taiwanese girl who used to be rostered on Mondays - $100 for CBJ. She was supermodel hot so that's why I didn't mind paying for a one off CBJ. She left during the pandemic and I haven't heard from her since she deleted her WeChat account.

I'm kinda glad that most of the girls in that shop that I have sampled these days don't greedily offer CBJ or FS (at least not outright to non-regulars) because it can cause issues with the shop being raided and possibly shutting the business down due to abuse of shop licence.

[Starfire]

Never haggle or negotiate rates for extras.

Best to either ask the ML what extras on offer or if she asked if you want extras, just ask if she does “everything”.

If she doesn’t, she can tell you what she’s comfortable with.

Zero awkwardness and everyone is comfortable.

Lastly, $100 for FS is the most I would pay unless it’s when I encounter those who are considerably more attractive than an average ML and/or if they possess mastery of GFE.

Harumi formerly of DOS, Renee formerly of Sussex Star, and maybe a couple of others over the years. Not a lot of experience in massage compared to some others in this forum.

Wow Harumi - now that brings back memories. I can't believe I turned her down for part 3... if only I could go back in time haha

[woods23]

Wow Harumi - now that brings back memories. I can't believe I turned her down for part 3... if only I could go back in time haha

Hshaha that funny. I remember I refused to see her nd try her. Reason? She wasn't pretty enough back then at PS/ SS.( Naomi) Nana was begging me to see her ....why she so busy hahaha. We both knew what she up to.

Damn that's 5 to 6 yrs ago when she just started there.

[Starfire]

Hshaha that funny. I remember I refused to see her nd try her. Reason? She wasn't pretty enough back then at PS/ SS.( Naomi) Nana was begging me to see her ....why she so busy hahaha. We both knew what she up to.

Damn that's 5 to 6 yrs ago when she just started there.

Ah I see! I saw her at SS as well as the other place she used to work at Central as a ML and she never offered me anything... and then just before she retired I saw her at DOS and then I said no haha