Why dont more shops advertise on here?

[anonymouspunter]

Seems like a pretty surefire way to ensure business? Do these places make enough money without advertising?

[aussiegaigin]

Maybe they don't make enough money to pay for advertising. A lot of shops seem to survive on word of mouth.

Don't forget there are other forums like this looking for shops to advertise, perhaps some shops think they get better returns for their $ elsewhere.

Perhaps some shops want to keep their activities under the radar; advertsing here suggests they may be offering unapproved extras.

[Raybo]

I don't think it is too economical for some smaller shops, I believe it is somewhere around $1000 for a three month subscription.

[Travelmate]

There are number of very popular shops don't advertise on this forum.

They dont even rely on wechat postng pictures everyday.

Those has been in the business for long time and making good money.

[kingqxxx]

I don't think it is too economical for some smaller shops, I believe it is somewhere around $1000 for a three month subscription.

Last time I heard about 1.8k and no sharing of accounts between different shops from same owner. So two shops will cost twice that.

[AHLUNGOR]

I don't think it is too economical for some smaller shops, I believe it is somewhere around $1000 for a three month subscription.

It will be easier to assess the value or return on investment if we break it down: $1,000 for three months = $330 per month or $10 a day! So if advertising in this forum can at least generate one booking a day, I think it’s worth it IMHO. But it will also depends on whether the shop is taking full advantage of the advertising- for example , posting and updating rosters on a daily basis, post real photos and updates regularly and also interact with punters in terms of replying to PM or comments in the forum. Other means of communication such as WeChat is also very important.

Ps. It is also important to be able to measure the effectiveness- for example: post a dedicated mobile no here with their Ads (if possible , a different one from their shop front, ) so whenever that phone rings, you know that’s a tick ✔️ from AUS99 !

Ps. Especially if you are starting a new shop, advertising in this forum is a no brainer !

Cheers

[lonely heart]

$330 per month or $10 a day! So if advertising in this forum can at least generate one booking a day, I think it’s worth it IMHO.

It doesn't happen...... (very often)


Ps. Especially if you are starting a new shop, advertising in this forum is a no brainer !

Cheers

Many now use Google instead.


There are number of very popular shops don't advertise on this forum.

They dont even rely on wechat postng pictures everyday.

Those has been in the business for long time and making good money.

BINGO on that, Billys, 104, 181, Up the ramp... the list goes on.

[wilisno]

It doesn't happen...... (very often)



Many now use Google instead.



BINGO on that, Billys, 104, 181, Up the ramp... the list goes on.

If a shop can’t even get one job per day by advertising on this forum, he’s not a good operator !

Shops that AHLUNGOR talks about are smarter operators, they know how to make themselves known, and once the conversation starts, it will take care of itself, people will join in the talks, that’s why they are successful shops.

Shops that you happen to know maybe affected by your negativity, and no good advice from you, that’s why they remain unknown. If a shop just joins the forum, but doesn’t get involved, not even post regular roster, it won’t work.

Shops that reply on google are not sound business people. Google is not an advertising platform, they just rely on casual punters who don’t know about forums like this, they just google what’s available in the suburbs, and the shop hopes that their name will appear at the top of the search. So they rely on casual punters, not regular punters.

All businesses need some form of advertising if they want to make it big.

[LoveGlove]

Shops that reply on google are not sound business people. Google is not an advertising platform
All businesses need some form of advertising if they want to make it big.

Who said that Google is not an advertising medium?
In fact Google+ is a valid and very successful medium used for advertising. Especially if the business is targeting a global or national market. Google, Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, YouTube are great mediums used by many successful companies.

In the business world the concept of a marketing mix is essential for the longevity and survival of a business. Here is a run down on the 7 P’s of the marketing mix for a brothel ie a very simplistic one.
Note that all 7 are required not just 1.

- Product ie goods and services being offered eg massage, full service, rimming, CIM, bestiality, BDSM etc
- Pricing ie $90/30mins, $150/60mins etc
- Placement ie where the business places itself in the marketplace and who they are targeting eg low end no frills massage shop targeting struggle street low income punters, mid-to-high end brothel targeting blue collar workers, high end white glove rolls Royce establishment targeting the top end of town, high rollers etc
- Promotion ie how the cunts promote themselves tv, radio, online, newspapers, pamphlets, word of mouth etc
- Physical Evidence ie environment in which the service is delivered eg house, hotel, resort, in the car for WLs working the streets of Bankstown etc
- People ie mamasan/papasan/girls/receptionists/cleaners etc who are responsible for delivering the service end to end.
- Process ie procedures, processes and flow of activities on how services are delivered eg dealing with customer complaints, dealing with Coronavirus outbreak etc

[B J Hunter]

Until accidentally finding this website where a post was buried down the page I was one of those google search punters getting nowhere fast. I had no contacts or intel on shops and spent so much time searching a suburb and then mostly rubbish google reviews. Shops advertising on here with *photos* and *updated rosters* have gotten my business. Secondly the AR’s on here are obviously a big driver of business to the girls and shops too. Yep not all shops need to or want to advertise for various reasons but for the many many shops whoi want more business and who aren’t advertising on here, for the sake of investing an additional $10 a day in your business your costing yourself big time by not enticing more cashed up prospective punters to your business.
Aus99 works very well for punters and in my opinion is a legitate go to punters bible!!!

[aussiegaigin]

I see there are a few shops which"advertise" here (they are on the drop down lists for Shop Info and Shop Roster sections, so I assume they are paying) but have no actual information in either. Not much in the way of reviews for them either. Their SYD99 listings are also uninformative, or horribly out of date. They don't reply to emails/messages sent through the forum.

It seems strange they are not taking advantage of the facilities available. One shop I know of is so marginal that the girls now have to pay to have the a/c turned on in the rooms.

[Brothelcreeper]

I think 5, 42 and Paddington seem to take good advantage of their presence on the forum and also interact on here with their customers.

[jimbonz]

I appreciate the shops that chime to both positive and negative reviews, gives the feeling that they're trying to improve their service. However, I can see why not every shop would be interested in that, a shop would need to hire someone just to deal with all the crap in here LOL.

[wilisno]

Until accidentally finding this website where a post was buried down the page I was one of those google search punters getting nowhere fast. I had no contacts or intel on shops and spent so much time searching a suburb and then mostly rubbish google reviews. Shops advertising on here with *photos* and *updated rosters* have gotten my business. Secondly the AR’s on here are obviously a big driver of business to the girls and shops too. Yep not all shops need to or want to advertise for various reasons but for the many many shops whoi want more business and who aren’t advertising on here, for the sake of investing an additional $10 a day in your business your costing yourself big time by not enticing more cashed up prospective punters to your business.
Aus99 works very well for punters and in my opinion is a legitate go to punters bible!!!

That says it all about google as an advertising platform. Global advertising ? For a little RnT shops ? That’s far fetch ! And it won’t be $10 a day either !

Sorry Hunter, the later part is not aiming at you. ;) ;) ;)

[wilisno]

Until accidentally finding this website where a post was buried down the page I was one of those google search punters getting nowhere fast. I had no contacts or intel on shops and spent so much time searching a suburb and then mostly rubbish google reviews. Shops advertising on here with *photos* and *updated rosters* have gotten my business. Secondly the AR’s on here are obviously a big driver of business to the girls and shops too. Yep not all shops need to or want to advertise for various reasons but for the many many shops whoi want more business and who aren’t advertising on here, for the sake of investing an additional $10 a day in your business your costing yourself big time by not enticing more cashed up prospective punters to your business.
Aus99 works very well for punters and in my opinion is a legitate go to punters bible!!!

It’s only $5 a day if they only want to post, $10 includes the flashing banner.

[AHLUNGOR]

It’s only $5 a day if they only want to post, $10 includes the flashing banner.


Really, I didn't know that, so only $500 for 3 months for roster posting only ??

I think I need to tell a few of my mamasan friends about this, great to know brother Wil !!

Thanks

Cheers

:smile::miao:

[aussiegaigin]

That says it all about google as an advertising platform. Global advertising ? For a little RnT shops ? That’s far fetch ! And it won’t be $10 a day either !

Sorry Hunter, the later part is not aiming at you. ;) ;) ;)

I don't think it costs anything to get an icon on Google maps?

[B J Hunter]

That says it all about google as an advertising platform. Global advertising ? For a little RnT shops ? That’s far fetch ! And it won’t be $10 a day either !

Sorry Hunter, the later part is not aiming at you. ;) ;) ;)

No apology reqd. As you have clarified pricing and Ahlungor points out at $5 posting only and assuming pics for uploading as part of post are included for me, it’s a no brainer for shops to use this site because of the ability to link AR’s / Roster and Girl Info sections. While say Locanto has better user experience for viewing girls pictures along with the daily roster at the very top of the page for quick scrolling (the smartest shops do this well DAILY) Ref: 227 nth Strathfield and 14 concord rd, it does serve any other purpose.
I get there may be language barriers for some shops to use it and using tech even for the simple task of uploading a photo may seem impossible for some but for any shops out there, if I’m thinking it, then there’s plenty more out there like me that won’t go to a / your shop because
Don’t know about it
No feedback or AR’s about it
No roster or updated roster or girl info
No pictures with the daily roster (Big fail).

Punters are curious yet cautious beasts and always looking for new girls and shops to try.
Good luck to those making plenty of $$$ and don’t need to do it, but I guarantee there are more shops that are struggling than making it big in this competitive market who are dying for more punters to show up.

Yes Ahlungor it appears you may have to very well become a BDM for Aus99 and start telling them of the benefits and signing more shops up. We can always count on you.

[God Member]

I've just noticed the great Bellevue 22 has got a banner ad for the first time - a flashing one at that.

[aussiegaigin]

Even if it is only "$5 per day", you would think that shops would be motivated enough to actually put their addresses in the shop info thread.

Go down through the list and see how many haven't bothered.

[AHLUNGOR]

Even if it is only "$5 per day", you would think that shops would be motivated enough to actually put their addresses in the shop info thread.

Go down through the list and see how many haven't bothered.

Good observations Bro!

Any shop haven’t included all their shop details in their signature obviously were not advised properly!

[Jamez11]

The people who run these brothels and shops generally have little knowledge in marketing/advertising. If they did it properly they would offer discount rates to regular customers for positive reviews on Google liating/maps so it would show top 3 (locally) and pay someone for decent search engine optimisation and try get top two organic results and maybe small budget on google adwords and drive as much relevant traffice to their site, track with analytics and adjust as needed.

I run my own business and this approach is pretty effective. Word of mouth/reputation/trust can not be underestimated either.

The good thing about selling sex or any vice for that matter is you'll always have customers. Its a matter of making it as easy for them to find you.

[Brothelcreeper]

Even if it is only "$5 per day", you would think that shops would be motivated enough to actually put their addresses in the shop info thread.

Go down through the list and see how many haven't bothered.

I go to lots of shops and it always amazes me that they lack marketing skills. Many of them could do so much better. Things like accurate roster, decent real photos, friendly welcome and a bit of a chat, show you the girls and I mean all the girls not one by one pressuring you to choose them. Nice decor, clean room and shower etc

Really just basic 101 stuff but they don’t

[holi_day]

Because I never look at the advertising here, only after and the discussions. Not sure if you guys do.

[iphone]

But I don't like when shops are writing making comments on the old review ar of their girls just to push the thread up to the front.

[wilisno]

Because I never look at the advertising here, only after and the discussions. Not sure if you guys do.

If you check the rosters, read the ARs, check out Shop and Girl Info, you’re looking at the advertising.....

[AHLUNGOR]

I go to lots of shops and it always amazes me that they lack marketing skills. Many of them could do so much better. Things like accurate roster, decent real photos, friendly welcome and a bit of a chat, show you the girls and I mean all the girls not one by one pressuring you to choose them. Nice decor, clean room and shower etc

Really just basic 101 stuff but they don’t

Times are pretty though right now. Even pre Coronavirus time especially in the city area , simply too many RnT shops ! Back in 2012 when some pioneer shops first started advertising and introduced daily roster updates, they generally were doing quite well. Considering they only had to compete with less than half the competitors now !

[Pleck]

Times are pretty though right now. Even pre Coronavirus time especially in the city area , simply too many RnT shops ! Back in 2012 when some pioneer shops first started advertising and introduced daily roster updates, they generally were doing quite well. Considering they only had to compete with less than half the competitors now !

You think it is tough now. Wait until the second half of the year as it will be far worse.

[Travelmate]

Please do not forget how many Thai establishment these days........
Which is not counted in this forum

[Brothelcreeper]

Times are pretty though right now. Even pre Coronavirus time especially in the city area , simply too many RnT shops ! Back in 2012 when some pioneer shops first started advertising and introduced daily roster updates, they generally were doing quite well. Considering they only had to compete with less than half the competitors now !

Shops are quiet and are dropping prices so it is very competitive out there

Some of the $150 hr shops now offering $140 hr

[Coop]

Please do not forget how many Thai establishment these days........
Which is not counted in this forum

Aren’t all the Thai rnt places gone? Last few places i remember were the 2 on Bathurst St that closed down over 2 years ago and Oasis that closed down last year.

[aussiegaigin]

Aren’t all the Thai rnt places gone? Last few places i remember were the 2 on Bathurst St that closed down over 2 years ago and Oasis that closed down last year.
Seems to be dozens of them around Chinatown alone. Can't imagine they all survive on being legit.

[storry_teller]

If a shop can’t even get one job per day by advertising on this forum, he’s not a good operator !

Shops that AHLUNGOR talks about are smarter operators, they know how to make themselves known, and once the conversation starts, it will take care of itself, people will join in the talks, that’s why they are successful shops.

Shops that you happen to know maybe affected by your negativity, and no good advice from you, that’s why they remain unknown. If a shop just joins the forum, but doesn’t get involved, not even post regular roster, it won’t work.

Shops that reply on google are not sound business people. Google is not an advertising platform, they just rely on casual punters who don’t know about forums like this, they just google what’s available in the suburbs, and the shop hopes that their name will appear at the top of the search. So they rely on casual punters, not regular punters.

All businesses need some form of advertising if they want to make it big.
Imho, Google and Locanto are quite helpful for local shops, more than forum. Lots of shop are busy without advertisements on forum, like the one in RootyHills, very busy and they have so many frequent customers. Or shops in Suburbs like Gordon, Kogarah,... they have their frequent local customers even there are not many reviews on them here. Customers from forum are not quality customers. If they’re local, they might stay. If not, then they just come one time because they’re curious about the service, or want to try new things. Ppl from East doesn’t want to travel to North to punt frequently. Also, forum punters seem like to discuss, compare and point out shop’s faults so not good resource for shops. Even if shops have so many discussions on, still not guaranteed to get customers as lots of punters just like to talk, gossip but not make actual bookings. Forum is good/helpful for city shops, as it’s easy for punters sneak out when they work in city. Like shops around Chinatown, Townhall, Wynyyard... but then again, it can be harmful for shops if they have negative reviews. Obviously, advertising is fail to boost business revenue of 6 Surry Hills shop even though they have full advertisement package here. Same girls, same owner, same advertising styles of 84A Artamon, still didn’t work.

[asiafever]

A shop owner told me the extra exposure of the forums also brought a host of extra problems. Another shop I know of is happy flying under the radar for similar reasons, they do well enough from regulars and old reviews. One shop confided to me they suspected negative reviews were being written by friends of other shops, but of course they had no way to prove it, as reviews are all hearsay and subjective anyway.
On the flipside there are so many shops now that you have to differentiate somehow.

[wilisno]

Imho, Google and Locanto are quite helpful for local shops, more than forum. Lots of shop are busy without advertisements on forum, like the one in RootyHills, very busy and they have so many frequent customers. Or shops in Suburbs like Gordon, Kogarah,... they have their frequent local customers even there are not many reviews on them here. Customers from forum are not quality customers. If they’re local, they might stay. If not, then they just come one time because they’re curious about the service, or want to try new things. Ppl from East doesn’t want to travel to North to punt frequently. Also, forum punters seem like to discuss, compare and point out shop’s faults so not good resource for shops. Even if shops have so many discussions on, still not guaranteed to get customers as lots of punters just like to talk, gossip but not make actual bookings. Forum is good/helpful for city shops, as it’s easy for punters sneak out when they work in city. Like shops around Chinatown, Townhall, Wynyyard... but then again, it can be harmful for shops if they have negative reviews. Obviously, advertising is fail to boost business revenue of 6 Surry Hills shop even though they have full advertisement package here. Same girls, same owner, same advertising styles of 84A Artamon, still didn’t work.
Not all business operators are competent in marketing.....

[wilisno]

Not all business operators are competent in marketing.....

It’s true that a few shop owners got into trouble with forum exposure, trouble with the law, that’s something only they can solve. Negative reviews are things that they have to deal with, like other good shops on the forum. Moreover, if it’s malicious, ask admin to deal with it !

[muni7ad]

This was a insightful read. Some good points I hadn't thought of. Agree with the not good marketers with half done Web sities with some rosters but no pictures or much info. But maybe that is a choice either for good or bad.

[Anniee]

I am wondering if I should start to post advertisements on this forum. I’m really worrying about I don’t have reply messages. I am operating a massage shop in west ryde.

[personaa]

Advertising would only work if you offer quality (Which is missing in most shops these days) otherwise it would create a one off cash flow and that's it.

[Jannickwinner]

I am wondering if I should start to post advertisements on this forum. I’m really worrying about I don’t have reply messages. I am operating a massage shop in west ryde.

Post your roster today or tomorrow and see if people reply

[Keeping Up]

I am wondering if I should start to post advertisements on this forum. I’m really worrying about I don’t have reply messages. I am operating a massage shop in west ryde.

For a start your Locanto ad could do with a few more details i.e services provided, prices, phone number.

[Jannickwinner]

For a start your Locanto ad could do with a few more details i.e services provided, prices, phone number.

Where is the locanto ad? I can’t find it

[Keeping Up]

Where is the locanto ad? I can’t find it

https://sydney.locanto.com.au/ID_6785013590/The-hottest-massage-shop-in-west-ryde.html

[Backdraft69]

I am wondering if I should start to post advertisements on this forum. I’m really worrying about I don’t have reply messages. I am operating a massage shop in west ryde.I have been meaning to try this shop.
I got the wechat 3 weeks ago.
There's no daily updates tho.
I have had the flu, when I get better I will go.
Its been frustrating having a new shop opening up only a short walk away and I have been too sick lol.

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[luckypunty]

That shop 999a has been opened....but the shop sign looks like a brothel lol.

[Backdraft69]

Before it opened, I thought it would be West Ryde first brothel lol.


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[luckypunty]

Yea...its not very wise to make a bright sign like that lol