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jimmyp
16-12-2020, 03:27 PM
Unlawful prostitution charges, Redlands

Seven people have been charged in relation to unlawful prostitution after police raided four businesses in Brisbane’s bayside suburbs.

Detectives from the Bayside CIB, with assistance from Crime and Intelligence Command’s Prostitution Enforcement Taskforce executed search warrants last week on four premises – one on Panorama Drive Thornlands, one on West Avenue Wynnum and two on Old Cleveland Road Capalaba.

It will be alleged the premises were operating falsely under the guise of legitimate massage parlours.
The protracted operation commenced with assistance from Redland City Council, after police received multiple complaints from the Redlands area.

A 40-year-old Upper Mount Gravatt woman was charged with advertising prostitution offences following the search of the Thornlands premises, located a short distance away from a school. She was issued with a Notice to Appear in Cleveland Magistrates Court on January 19.

A 50-year-old Calamvale woman and a 35-year-old woman were charged with knowingly participating in prostitution offences during the search of the Old Cleveland Road premises. Both were issued with a Notice to Appear in Cleveland Magistrates Court on January 19.

A 31-year-old Manly West man was charged during the search of the same premises, with being in places reasonably suspected of being used for prostitution. He was issued with a Notice to Appear in Cleveland Magistrates Court on January 19.

A 47-year-old Sunnybank woman was given a Notice to Appear for advertising prostitution offences at a separate premises on Old Cleveland Road. She is due to appear in Cleveland Magistrates Court on January 19.

A 50-year-old Browns Plains woman and 34-year-old Kenmore Hills woman were charged with knowingly participating in prostitution during the search of the West Avenue premises. Both were issued with a Notice to Appear in Wynnum Magistrates Court on January 18.

Investigators are continuing to work with council and landlords to reduce this illegal activity.

Police would like to thank the community for reporting concerns to Crime Stoppers and encourage members of the public to continue to do so.



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kamas
16-12-2020, 03:30 PM
Which one of you is 31-year-old Manly West man? :) Could be an embarrassing court appearance...

punterpunter
16-12-2020, 03:36 PM
bitches and they told me they were 21 lol

LoveHer
16-12-2020, 05:37 PM
so which were these shops? they sound like spaceman's friends

ococpunt
16-12-2020, 05:59 PM
storm is coming...

jimmyp
16-12-2020, 08:57 PM
Police would like to thank the community for reporting concerns to Crime Stoppers and encourage members of the public to continue to do so.



I'm disappointed it didn't read "Police would like to thank users of public forums openly discussing activities that are occurring inside shops"

It's about time someone from QPS came on here and publicly thanked us!

spaceman
16-12-2020, 09:03 PM
Yes did you read a customer was charged for just bending there in side the parlour
Note ( no abn = elegal brothel )
Been working you all

LoveHer
16-12-2020, 09:14 PM
I'm disappointed it didn't read "Police would like to thank users of public forums openly discussing activities that are occurring inside shops"

It's about time someone from QPS came on here and publicly thanked us!
While forum intel might be interesting for us $200/week spenders, I think a few phone taps, recordings and surveillance work would be more inline with ensuring a conviction.

To be honest I've steered clear of my usual haunts this week.

spaceman
16-12-2020, 09:26 PM
Sukhonnee mechai has pack up 105 Wellington st this afternoon locked up all the Gate and put the bin out 3 days early
Has done a runner she has been running 3 escorts out of there
She runs about 20 places As brothels

APL
17-12-2020, 09:58 AM
Yes did you read a customer was charged for just bending there in side the parlour
Note ( no abn = elegal brothel )
Been working you all

Are you sure it was the customer bending LOL

jimmyp
17-12-2020, 11:16 AM
Are you sure it was the customer bending LOLDepends how much you pay!

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Brissypunter
17-12-2020, 11:31 AM
More BS open today as normal

ecchi.gaijin
18-12-2020, 10:16 AM
Yes did you read a customer was charged for just bending there in side the parlour
Note ( no abn = elegal brothel )
Been working you all

Being an illegal brothel has absolutely ZERO to do with having an ABN or not. An illegal brothel is defined by the nature of the actions performed on the premises, not the setup of the business.

popeye96
18-12-2020, 12:31 PM
Doubt it. I would have thought anything to do with an ABN would be more of an ABR or ATO matter. Last time I submitted a tax return, I couldn't recall a question about whether or not I ran an illegal brothel.

LoveHer
18-12-2020, 12:57 PM
Doubt it. I would have thought anything to do with an ABN would be more of an ABR or ATO matter. Last time I submitted a tax return, I couldn't recall a question about whether or not I ran an illegal brothel.

You are giving the ATO an idea there. It's a bit like the questions on the USA entry forms, Are you a terrorist? or similar questions.

jeffsouthwell
13-01-2021, 08:38 AM
Sorry for coming late to this one, but does anyone know what shops these were? There are quite a few in Capalaba and the usual suspects don't seem to have been affected?

partyboy202020
13-01-2021, 10:11 AM
Oh no, These ladies are spoiling names of legit massage parlors.

jimmyp
13-01-2021, 10:45 AM
Sorry for coming late to this one, but does anyone know what shops these were? There are quite a few in Capalaba and the usual suspects don't seem to have been affected?Anyone around Wynnum next Monday? Drop into court and let us know what evidence is presented.

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partyboy202020
13-01-2021, 03:41 PM
High time to move interstate!

jeffsouthwell
13-01-2021, 05:46 PM
It is strange that they wouldn't release the names - shouldn't they be looking to shut them down?

I feel for the guy who was just 'present' (if that is true). Some people actually do just show up for a massage...

gpeck80
15-01-2021, 06:21 AM
Yes did you read a customer was charged for just bending there in side the parlour
Note ( no abn = elegal brothel )
Been working you all

Was his last name Dover?

gpeck80
15-01-2021, 06:26 AM
Sukhonnee mechai has pack up 105 Wellington st this afternoon locked up all the Gate and put the bin out 3 days early
Has done a runner she has been running 3 escorts out of there
She runs about 20 places As brothels

In Brisbane And Gold Coast.

LoveHer
16-01-2021, 09:18 AM
It is strange that they wouldn't release the names

Forget that the newspaper doesn't release the names.....isn't it more strange that

** our supposed expert forum members (inc myself) have no intel as to the names.
** we spend hours over the years writing about venues and sexual services which could allegedly be illegal yet these venues never get raided.

Makes me think that QPS doesn't actually act on the info from this forum. A few members say they have 'inside' info that QPS is monitoring but the facts speak that, if they are, they don't act on it.

Cloud 9 was raided because they were embroiled by corrupt politician and because no decent massage places in Ipswich.

</myMorningRant)

popeye96
16-01-2021, 03:50 PM
Forget that the newspaper doesn't release the names.....isn't it more strange that

** our supposed expert forum members (inc myself) have no intel as to the names.
** we spend hours over the years writing about venues and sexual services which could allegedly be illegal yet these venues never get raided.

Makes me think that QPS doesn't actually act on the info from this forum. A few members say they have 'inside' info that QPS is monitoring but the facts speak that, if they are, they don't act on it.

Cloud 9 was raided because they were embroiled by corrupt politician and because no decent massage places in Ipswich.

</myMorningRant)

Maybe, maybe not. But why make it easier for the authorities by blabbing about illegal activities on an open forum.

LoveHer
16-01-2021, 04:19 PM
Maybe, maybe not. But why make it easier for the authorities by blabbing about illegal activities on an open forum.

because when we do blab about it we all get better performance from the girls. we out the poor performers and they move on.

and even when there have been such obvious disclosure of services, the shops continue to operate.

i'm not saying we start, i'm just pointing out a disconnect and the incongruency.

cjh
16-01-2021, 08:05 PM
Could it be that in general a certain section of the community has better things to do with their time than hassle shops etc.

PinayPounder
16-01-2021, 08:59 PM
additional to the bs presumptions, you can drop using the royal and / or collective we for a start.

Spare us.

The girls blossom after an influencer's prose.

Loverher should take a cut from the wealth he creates.

Batting100
16-01-2021, 11:51 PM
Could it be that in general a certain section of the community has better things to do with their time than hassle shops etc.

Also... a lot of the shops know who are lot of you are... start talking shit and you’ll find your level of service dropping very quickly. Despite what a lot of people here think, most of the shops hate this forum.

popeye96
17-01-2021, 07:19 PM
Many a girl has left the industry due to the information posted on here. And I'm not talking about bad publicity. Positive reviews have been posted with too much information shared, and every Tom, Dick and Harry creep comes out of the woodwork and hassles the ML expecting the same level of service. That's why if you find a gem you should keep it to yourself.

LoveHer
18-01-2021, 08:53 AM
Many a girl has left the industry due to the information posted on here. And I'm not talking about bad publicity. Positive reviews have been posted with too much information shared, and every Tom, Dick and Harry creep comes out of the woodwork and hassles the ML expecting the same level of service. That's why if you find a gem you should keep it to yourself.

I have edited my omnibus review to remove shop names.

Tlito
18-01-2021, 11:20 AM
Many a girl has left the industry due to the information posted on here. And I'm not talking about bad publicity. Positive reviews have been posted with too much information shared, and every Tom, Dick and Harry creep comes out of the woodwork and hassles the ML expecting the same level of service. That's why if you find a gem you should keep it to yourself.

Yes some ladies love you mentioning their name and service...I saw Lily Blackbeauty recently and she loves a good review and her name being all over the web...best to ask permission before name dropping.Some grub in this forum told a regular that I boasted about my service...I DID NOT mention her name..and I don’t know how he knew who I was talking about., needless to say my next visit all of a sudden she does not provide the service any more and as a result I won’t see her any more ...I will think twice next time ..only myself to blame

LoveHer
18-01-2021, 12:46 PM
Yes some ladies love you mentioning their name and service...I saw Lily Blackbeauty recently and she loves a good review and her name being all over the web...best to ask permission before name dropping.Some grub in this forum told a regular that I boasted about my service...I DID NOT mention her name..and I don’t know how he knew who I was talking about., needless to say my next visit all of a sudden she does not provide the service any more and as a result I won’t see her any more ...I will think twice next time ..only myself to blame
you make good points there Tlito. it's about balance and tradeoff. every punter different, every girl different.

Scotty from Marketing
18-01-2021, 01:31 PM
Many a girl has left the industry due to the information posted on here. And I'm not talking about bad publicity. Positive reviews have been posted with too much information shared, and every Tom, Dick and Harry creep comes out of the woodwork and hassles the ML expecting the same level of service. That's why if you find a gem you should keep it to yourself.

Unfortunately this is so true. No one in the shops know about the forum, but a lot are looking every single day. It sends some shops into panic mode when they get mentioned. Worse when a lady gets a mention. Worst of all are services mentioned. Most suck at “cryptic” clues.
PI plod looks here too.
We dont have the luxury of decent laws in queensland.
The worst are the anonymous pricks who walk into shops expecting any girl mentioned here to worship their being without any effort, rapport or decency.

Batting100
18-01-2021, 05:08 PM
Yes some ladies love you mentioning their name and service...I saw Lily Blackbeauty recently and she loves a good review and her name being all over the web...best to ask permission before name dropping.Some grub in this forum told a regular that I boasted about my service...I DID NOT mention her name..and I don’t know how he knew who I was talking about., needless to say my next visit all of a sudden she does not provide the service any more and as a result I won’t see her any more ...I will think twice next time ..only myself to blame

Why couldn’t you show the ml what you wrote??

Tlito
18-01-2021, 06:38 PM
Why couldn’t you show the ml what you wrote??
I think You misunderstand Batting...I mentioned what services she gave me on this site...a fellow punter who obviously gets the same service has passed the information on to her ...she did not blow up ...just said her husband does not want her providing the services any more...If I had kept it to myself I have no doubt the service would have continued ...my fault entirely..as Popeye said some gems you need to keep to yourself...I have another girl who I have been seeing for years that is too good to be true....I would never post her details because of my fear of losing her...she has never been mentioned on this site and only works one day a week...I am sure any punter who has been in the game for a while has their secrets.

Tlito
18-01-2021, 09:11 PM
so the grub misses out too. serves him right.

sorry for your loss.thanks Leon...took me a long time to find her so I will think twice before posting next time..there will be others....lots out there...that is why we call it punting hey...

Batting100
18-01-2021, 09:53 PM
thanks Leon...took me a long time to find her so I will think twice before posting next time..there will be others....lots out there...that is why we call it punting hey...

I see I see...

I’m guessing this isn’t your only account here??

Tlito
18-01-2021, 10:37 PM
I see I see...

I’m guessing this isn’t your only account here?? I only have 1 account Batting..am I missing something?

Batting100
19-01-2021, 12:33 AM
I only have 1 account Batting..am I missing something?

Just thought if you’ve been punting for years and you only joined up last year you probably had another... people here seem to cycle through when they get exposed

Tlito
19-01-2021, 01:14 AM
Just thought if you’ve been punting for years and you only joined up last year you probably had another... people here seem to cycle through when they get exposed
No I have been reading for a long time but only joined in 2019 only ever had this one account...

spaceman
19-01-2021, 06:18 PM
Funny today’s court list don’t come out today for Brisbane arrest courts
And Brisbane area including Cleveland court house
The list gives there real names and the time of the hearing
Been watching them for over a year now never happen before

Batting100
19-01-2021, 06:27 PM
Funny today’s court list don’t come out today for Brisbane arrest courts
And Brisbane area including Cleveland court house
The list gives there real names and the time of the hearing
Been watching them for over a year now never happen before

What’s your point?

jeffsouthwell
19-01-2021, 09:47 PM
I think the point is that the Cap one seems a little strange. Maybe the details will all come out and there is no problem, but it was plastered all over the paper (with no real details) but then...nothing?

AboveBoard
20-01-2021, 10:05 AM
If a complaint or two is made against a shop the constabulary are forced to act. Could be a competitor or disgruntled neighbour.

popeye96
20-01-2021, 07:01 PM
Could be a competitor or disgruntled neighbour.
Or maybe a disgruntled punter that got taken for a ride by the shop owner.

Brissypunter
20-01-2021, 09:37 PM
Ya all dreaming !! Those who got done got done .. most times go court first time slap wrist and fine .. however u look at places like Kat high gate hill who’s had border force go to shop twice and know what’s going on and investigating.. more to come from that .. you guys who think nothing going on should hide your face better and rego plates lol ..

HST
20-01-2021, 10:00 PM
Ya all dreaming !! Those who got done got done .. most times go court first time slap wrist and fine .. however u look at places like Kat high gate hill who’s had border force go to shop twice and know what’s going on and investigating.. more to come from that .. you guys who think nothing going on should hide your face better and rego plates lol ..
Yikes! Luckily haven't been there for quite a while...

Brissypunter
20-01-2021, 10:16 PM
Yep spaceman not wrong on this one Kat been done twice by border force and they they know what going on matter of time and fucked

HST
20-01-2021, 10:31 PM
Yep spaceman not wrong on this one Kat been done twice by border force and they they know what going on matter of time and fucked
Done twice for what? Maybe you don't want to say on here though

HST
20-01-2021, 10:34 PM
It's a shop I've had good times at, including by Kat, but if dodgy shit is happening dunno if I'll be back. Was actually thinking of going back for a visit soon after not having been for quite a while...

Brissypunter
20-01-2021, 10:42 PM
Visa issues cops know border force know well keep going maybe u get hooked up on it .. if could send a attachment I wold send .. she and other going down not for massage but for other illegal activities wait see

Batting100
20-01-2021, 11:29 PM
Yikes! Luckily haven't been there for quite a while...

Gee who else was talking about Kat at high gate hill and gkt slammed for being wrong??? Hmm

Bobbitybob
21-01-2021, 12:08 AM
i can't believe this sting only netted one douche.

bloody hell.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/cop-poses-as-mum-offering-sex-with-her-and-14yo-daughter-in-elaborate-sting-20210119-p56ve2.html

What a piece of shit.

jeffsouthwell
21-01-2021, 01:48 AM
What a piece of shit.

You got that right. People like this NEED to be locked up.

17012430
21-01-2021, 07:38 AM
i can't believe this sting only netted one douche.

bloody hell.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/cop-poses-as-mum-offering-sex-with-her-and-14yo-daughter-in-elaborate-sting-20210119-p56ve2.html

https://abr.business.gov.au/ABN/View/89731606529

Game over.

17012430
21-01-2021, 07:41 AM
https://www.facebook.com/scott.bartkowski.7

got him :smile:

ecchi.gaijin
21-01-2021, 10:55 AM
The guy has an ABN, he can't be doing anything illegal. Right Spaceman?

spaceman
21-01-2021, 10:52 PM
We are talking about organise crime groups
Not a single idiot that thinks he is going to have sex with A 14 year old daughter and the mother

77red
22-01-2021, 10:20 AM
Ya all dreaming !! Those who got done got done .. most times go court first time slap wrist and fine .. however u look at places like Kat high gate hill who’s had border force go to shop twice and know what’s going on and investigating.. more to come from that .. you guys who think nothing going on should hide your face better and rego plates lol ..

I can't understand why you are so persistent in mentioning Highgate shop.You certainly have your facts wrong and perhaps some old grudges.
Don't spoil the good times for the all of us and stop this names dropping. Both shops are great and I never had to cover my rego plate.

Homebrew
22-01-2021, 01:42 PM
Nobody is spoiling anything, he is giving his side of the story.
Just because you are not concerned others maybe.
Not like they going to ask you to smile for the pictures

Brissypunter
22-01-2021, 01:44 PM
Darren Payne
Supervisor Field and Removal Operations QLD NT
Enforcement Operations North
Australian Border Force
They been her shop twice in last year they know what she is up to in other areas aswell
I’m sure the above person who has great concern who I have full email from is not talking shit REDDOOR .... but hey keep going your choice

LoveHer
22-01-2021, 02:34 PM
How is Border Force of concern to us as Australian citizens?

Kowabunga
22-01-2021, 02:46 PM
They monitor for any activities that infringe upon rightful status of any visa and immigration processes.

spaceman
22-01-2021, 05:42 PM
That Right
That what they are looking at
They are very a where of the scam running thought the visa system
The raid in April last year exposed Dee Dee 2 at Mortimer Rd acaia ridge and 105 Wellington st east Brisbane and 143 Bryant’s rd
Sukhonnee mekchai place
He got court in the raid ,with 5 others
a guy man from Thailand on sponsored 12 month visa ( they pay other people to sponsor them so no connection to the real person trafficking them
Goes home in 4 weeks time ( a very nice person being ripped off) how would you like being sold off at 50% off the going rate and then the owner taking there cut out and the also being charged for the house or shop you operate out of
But it still worth while to come $300 is about 1 months salary
The add that Dee Dee massage ran was $150 p/h ful service (Have a copy if you want me to post it)
Get $50 per job do 6 or more jobs per day $300 while she get $600 more than $15,000 per month. Out of one person then times that by 10
The police shut down mortimer Rd as a massage parlor with in a few days escorts where being run out of there

LoveHer
23-01-2021, 09:50 AM
They monitor for any activities that infringe upon rightful status of any visa and immigration processes.
this is a punter forum. it is not a problem for the majority of punters.


That Right
That what they are looking at
They are very a where of the scam running thought the visa system


Please STOP reposting the same old same old pubic domain info. you have one snippet of info which you have posted and reposted for months. if we want to now about it we will re-read the 200 49 other times you have mentioned it. If you have legitimate intel take it to QPS.

Darling1988
24-01-2021, 10:58 AM
Yep spaceman not wrong on this one Kat been done twice by border force and they they know what going on matter of time and fucked

Andrew, I’ve been to your previous shop at Zen massage twice only. Your shop was dirty and your girls were just feral, bad service, bad attitude and too greedy and I never went back after twice. Now I know why your shop was shit, because they had a shit boss like you! You write lies on the forum to shit on other businesses because you got busted by the police yourself during COVID time!! One of your previous staff, whom I met at another shop told me you fuck over your employee with money owe them hundreds of dollars!

Brissypunter
27-01-2021, 10:14 PM
Ohhhhh Darling !! Are u scared what nah happen ?most people know who I am and have nothing to loose ! But u must be scared ... treat girl bad take passports and worse to them good for u !! Must be proud !! Maybe Reddoor giving u all inside information from his private forum !!
Ahh and apl who is a member now talking in forum he saw a underage girl !!! Sus as some stage u be all going down !! Cops getting harder for a reason chasing u cocks !! And yes I’m helping them
Nothing hide here

Batting100
28-01-2021, 03:21 AM
Ohhhhh Darling !! Are u scared what nah happen ?most people know who I am and have nothing to loose ! But u must be scared ... treat girl bad take passports and worse to them good for u !! Must be proud !! Maybe Reddoor giving u all inside information from his private forum !!
Ahh and apl who is a member now talking in forum he saw a underage girl !!! Sus as some stage u be all going down !! Cops getting harder for a reason chasing u cocks !! And yes I’m helping them
Nothing hide here

Are you drunk dude?

spaceman
28-01-2021, 07:20 AM
No we get tied
It not just me protecting the girls, Helping them, you would be surprised what they ask
Once they know you have there best interest at hart
( most of the would not be doing this job normally, they normally leave when they realise the damage it is doing to them, there is no going back)
We are just punters like everyone else
There is a group of us And we don’t like all the illegal shops operating/ leaving the girls with no protection under the law
So the owner don’t pay tax of any type
They get raped / assaulted in your shop want to got to the police ( but the owner shut it down as it is illegal operation)
No work cover
No super
No insurance
And
No protection from the law( there rights)
So you don’t pay tax

xzaq
28-01-2021, 09:03 AM
No we get tied
It not just me protecting the girls, Helping them, you would be surprised what they ask
Once they know you have there best interest at hart
( most of the would not be doing this job normally, they normally leave when they realise the damage it is doing to them, there is no going back)
We are just punters like everyone else
There is a group of us And we don’t like all the illegal shops operating/ leaving the girls with no protection under the law
So the owner don’t pay tax of any type
They get raped / assaulted in your shop want to got to the police ( but the owner shut it down as it is illegal operation)
No work cover
No super
No insurance
And
No protection from the law( there rights)
So you don’t pay tax

Another profound statement in the AUS99 Brisbane cesspool.. LOL !!!!

PS .. an English Language course at TAFE costs the same as 1 visit to you favourite hooker..

APL
28-01-2021, 10:40 AM
Ohhhhh Darling !! Are u scared what nah happen ?most people know who I am and have nothing to loose ! But u must be scared ... treat girl bad take passports and worse to them good for u !! Must be proud !! Maybe Reddoor giving u all inside information from his private forum !!
Ahh and apl who is a member now talking in forum he saw a underage girl !!! Sus as some stage u be all going down !! Cops getting harder for a reason chasing u cocks !! And yes I’m helping them
Nothing hide here

" I seen her in Alderley when she was under age given whats she's stating"
Try again Bro LOL

ecchi.gaijin
28-01-2021, 04:15 PM
No work cover
No super
No insurance
And
No protection from the law( there rights)
So you don’t pay tax

As contractors the girls are responsible for their own Super, insurance and taxes just like every other contractor is. They choose not to protect themselves because they are too cheap. They are protected by the law exactly the same way as everyone else is.

17012430
28-01-2021, 04:59 PM
As contractors the girls are responsible for their own Super, insurance and taxes just like every other contractor is. They choose not to protect themselves because they are too cheap. They are protected by the law exactly the same way as everyone else is.

Never looked at it like that.. Always envied them for getting hundreds maybe even thousands per day but they probably just go blow it all on shoes and lingerie anyway which keeps them working as well

ecchi.gaijin
28-01-2021, 05:17 PM
Very few of them manage to save enough money to secure their future as they can't bank it without risking attention from the gov. They freak out as soon as you tell them how much tax they would have to pay on their earnings.

Formula2000
28-01-2021, 07:45 PM
Ohhhhh Darling !! Are u scared what nah happen ?most people know who I am and have nothing to loose ! But u must be scared ... treat girl bad take passports and worse to them good for u !! Must be proud !! Maybe Reddoor giving u all inside information from his private forum !!
Ahh and apl who is a member now talking in forum he saw a underage girl !!! Sus as some stage u be all going down !! Cops getting harder for a reason chasing u cocks !! And yes I’m helping them
Nothing hide here

Girls are the best sources for internal info, gossips etc. That’s how I found out about your behaviour, how you jeopardise other shop owners by posting fake dangerous reviews, your indecency towards girls working for you, your infidelity etc. Surely you’ll soon delete your acc and reappear using a new one as you did over and over before

LoveHer
28-01-2021, 09:59 PM
Why don’t we talk about trading at the west end markets…..

I'll take the load off loveher (in my mouth, fully clothed - 1.6 pineapples) and reply for him / her? I don't know. Its difficult to curate the perfect public punting forum on an internet thats open?

Actually the west end markets is fertile territory if you want to trade pineapples with newly imported partner visa hotties. (I'm not even sure if that is 'code' nudge nudge wink wink WIR = yes)




As contractors the girls are responsible for their own Super, insurance and taxes just like every other contractor is. They choose not to protect themselves because they are too cheap. They are protected by the law exactly the same way as everyone else is.

Mostly agree however the ATO does have a contractor test, one question I know is "does the contractor supply their own tools?" I think in ML case the tools walk in the door so they fail that test of contractor.

ecchi.gaijin
29-01-2021, 10:02 AM
Tools are only an indicator and quite low on the decision scale. The more important test is who has discretion of how the work is performed.

LoveHer
29-01-2021, 11:39 AM
Tools are only an indicator and quite low on the decision scale. The more important test is who has discretion of how the work is performed.

When I use this ATO guidance too (https://www.ato.gov.au/Calculators-and-tools/Host/?anchor=ECDTSGET&anchor=ECDTSGET/questions/ECDT#ECDTSGET/questions/ECDT)l, it shows the girls as being employees and eligible for superannuation.

perhaps leon & spaceman would be more comfortable guiding the girls on how to report through the fairwork australia & ato websites to ensure entitlements are paid. And it can be done after the girls have left employment so they wont be hassled by the boss.

In the ATO questions I did have to think about who pays for the massage oil in shops.

ecchi.gaijin
29-01-2021, 12:23 PM
Actually it doesn't show that. The ATO guidance tool only states it is likely because the actual determination is more complicated than a simple online tool can answer. The issue of massage girls being employees or contractors is a bit of a grey area and comes down to the individual circumstances of each case.

LoveHer
29-01-2021, 02:50 PM
massage girls being employees or contractors is a bit of a grey area and comes down to the individual circumstances of each case.

Exactly. A useful way that punters can assist girls.

jimmyp
29-01-2021, 04:37 PM
Simple solution, just ask for a tax invoice next time you get a massage.

Must show ABN, and if any GST is being charged.

Good luck!

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Brissypunter
29-01-2021, 08:45 PM
Bahahaha single man mate nothing hide just sick the way Shops are now !! Not right keeping passports threatening girls most Chinese ships or Thai .. if I do anything girls I paid big $$ so don’t try lecture me

Shops who do wrong going get busted that’s it
I have no skin in the game anymore I work as help the other side now

Brissypunter
29-01-2021, 08:50 PM
By way next couple weeks look fo a blog called punter caught !! Have some great pics and Regos at shops .. the guy other days at stone corner looked shocked when lic taken lol

LoveHer
30-01-2021, 07:10 AM
I think I had my eyes closed when you took the pic. That blog sounds like it’s going to be great. Will you be providing the enthralling text copy ?

Darling1988
30-01-2021, 11:10 AM
Ohhhhh Darling !! Are u scared what nah happen ?most people know who I am and have nothing to loose ! But u must be scared ... treat girl bad take passports and worse to them good for u !! Must be proud !! Maybe Reddoor giving u all inside information from his private forum !!
Ahh and apl who is a member now talking in forum he saw a underage girl !!! Sus as some stage u be all going down !! Cops getting harder for a reason chasing u cocks !! And yes I’m helping them
Nothing hide here

Mate, are you high on drugs? I have also been to your Balaclava st shop years ago when your wife was pregnant while she was working there. I know that because I was also your wife’s customer in the early days at Pam’s. I’m not in the business of prostitution like you.

The reason I jump on here to say something is because I’m sick of you mouthing off other businesses especially when you treat women like crap. You fucked your Japanese staff in exchange of their employment at your shop. How low does one get?

It’s ridiculous you think in year 2021 one would be able to confiscate other passports and get away with it. Maybe you didn’t get the memo: everyone now has a mobile phone, and every phone has an internet connection. It takes 30 seconds to google on the phone, find out how to reapply for a new passport.

Have you paid the right taxes to ATO? Do you currently hold a brothel license over the last many years you’ve been in business? If anyone should be in jail, it should be you.

Tlito
30-01-2021, 10:34 PM
Gee I can’t believe my 100 th post is this one..
It is now 10.30 pm in NSW and not 1 reply to this post..which is now 12 hours old..
WTF ...are we living in America ..
I have no idea about the facts here but this is the most important post I have ever seen on this site..
Can someone please reply and refute or confirm this ...

Tlito
30-01-2021, 10:35 PM
Btw I have been at work all day and only just seen this

Formula2000
31-01-2021, 06:21 AM
My sources are 3 girls of different nationalities who used to work at Zen
They told me very similar things to what Darling1988 say.
Plus:
1. Andrew managed to lure a very popular SS girl to jump aboard and made her operational manager of Zen
2. While his wife was away back home he and the manager had a widely-known fling
3. In the last year or so of Zen Andrew had an accomplice who helped him with accounting and other business matters. The dude is a forum member, too
4. According to the girls the accomplice is a nice gentleman, quite opposite to Brissypunter. The accomplice acted as a talent scout as well. Visiting other shops as a customer to spot some good ones
5. Andrew is indeed a low life according to at least one girl who felt fortunate to have avoided his advances

HST
31-01-2021, 09:40 AM
probably because it is the profile's second post, and while time stamped this morning, may only now be available to read.

it is in extremely bad taste to bring up ..... of SS and Bal and I hope they edit their post.
I don't see an issue. He has been throwing around a lot of nasty allegations so if he gets some shit thrown back at him then so be it...

Scotty from Marketing
31-01-2021, 10:25 AM
You would not believe the amount of ladies working in other shops who shit on Andrew. Some only met him once, others had to work for the scumbag. Some had to pass an “audition” that was hardly professional and borderline forceful. Most of these ladies decided to look elsewhere for work.
I have never heard of a more reviled man in the industry.

Scenic
31-01-2021, 12:38 PM
Mate, are you high on drugs? I have also been to your Balaclava st shop years ago when your wife was pregnant while she was working there. I know that because I was also your wife’s customer in the early days at Pam’s. I’m not in the business of prostitution like you.

The reason I jump on here to say something is because I’m sick of you mouthing off other businesses especially when you treat women like crap. You fucked your Japanese staff in exchange of their employment at your shop. How low does one get?

It’s ridiculous you think in year 2021 one would be able to confiscate other passports and get away with it. Maybe you didn’t get the memo: everyone now has a mobile phone, and every phone has an internet connection. It takes 30 seconds to google on the phone, find out how to reapply for a new passport.

Have you paid the right taxes to ATO? Do you currently hold a brothel license over the last many years you’ve been in business? If anyone should be in jail, it should be you.

Does this "Andrew" run a shop in Southside very close to a shopping centre? I have heard from various MLs manager/owner conducted "trying out - interviews". One of MLs told me even after she said not interested in working for him, he kept texting her, asking "are your boobs real?" and many other texts suggesting he wants to screw her.

LoveHer
31-01-2021, 02:51 PM
Brissypunger is well known for sending girl recommendations to forum members who then trundle up to his shop for crap service. He then just says “oh well YMMV”

popeye96
31-01-2021, 03:45 PM
Brissypunger is well known for sending girl recommendations to forum members who then trundle up to his shop for crap service. He then just says “oh well YMMV”

Just wondering how you know this, as the shop in question closed it's doors long before your join date?

iamking
31-01-2021, 10:45 PM
Used to be a regular at Zenback in the day. Was put off when a K girl and a J girl both said what scotty and formula mentioned. I followed the K girl out to Rosemary.
They also mentioned that Andrew kept mobile numbers and names when punters booked, as well as photos of punters and their car rego if they parked out the back. Not sure what he did with them, I'm just hapoy that at the time I was single and parked around the corner.
One of the other J girls was also a recruiter and a few of the J girls that worked at Zen were new to the industry in Australia and were taken for a ride in more ways than one.
Brissypunter ans spaceman at times sound similar to each other just like the recent truth and khe sanh.

I'm nit sure uf I agree with leon if it is in bad taste the info provided by Darling, mostboeople don't know Andrew/ Brissypunter. What is in bad taste is for Brissypunter to deliberately take photos of people and their cars and then post them in a blog.

RockHardGuy
31-01-2021, 11:32 PM
So where is this blog online ? I gather it is publicly known ?

LoveHer
01-02-2021, 01:20 PM
Just wondering how you know this, as the shop in question closed it's doors long before your join date?

I read the forum history.

Batting100
01-02-2021, 06:07 PM
Wow this thread took an interesting turn....

Slops
01-02-2021, 06:42 PM
Wow this thread took an interesting turn....

Grab the popcorn and pull up a seat. Getting better than Netflix.

iamking
02-02-2021, 07:20 AM
your current girl friend is ex zen? out of interest why did you omit that?

It's no secret, anyone who gas been on thus forum knows that. I've mentioned it previously. She was there for a short time, did the day sessions and didn't like the job.
Ive also mentioned that she's been out of the industry for years now, and doesn't keep in touch with people in the field.
She joined via another Japanese ML. Anyone who knows Zen knows that Andrew would only show in the afternoon or night, she had limited interactions with him.
After she left Zen, the left the industry, unrelated to Andrew. She doesn't look at her time fondly, but mire as an exoerience that helped her change and grow. As a couple we've progressed beyond that, so why would I ask her about it now just to post stuff?
What I've mentioned is what other girls told who were there longer and had experiences or seen things.
I had continued punting at Zen after my girl had left, had my regular MLs and soent like crazy on girls from multiple shops.
Bumped into her last year purely by accident. Anyine can read my past posts to know this.
Does any of this change anything xbiut Andrew/Brissypunter? No. It does make me wonder why you leon have been defending him so vehemently. Maybe you are the accomplice mentioned by formula?

iamking
02-02-2021, 07:31 AM
And yes I am phasing myself out of this forum, in case people are expecting a long ongoing discussion. I gave also mentioned that before. I've stopped punting, and the forum is very different from when I started reading it and later joined it. Good luck to the new members, remember tk post your experiences first not ask for names, addresses until later. Good luck to the old ones who try and keep it the same but actually exoect every punter to know what the standards are when they differ so greatly between members here.

Scenic
02-02-2021, 08:16 PM
I'm offended you say I have defended him, I have done nothing of the sort. I feel sorry for his ex-wife.

Check all the guys that have bantered with him on here and love a good mindless chuckle.

I have no idea why you brought up uber guy and said 'your' fellow punter, I have no idea why in that post you say my girl, who has friends in the industry, I have no idea why you just posted she's been out for years and doesn't keep in touch with people in the field, I have no idea why you described unrealistic expectations at fg/at as you went down swinging, I have no idea why you post at all.

Good luck to you.

Why so sensitive???? That time of the month :grimace:

Batting100
03-02-2021, 12:07 AM
Why so sensitive???? That time of the month :grimace:

Doesn’t seem sensitive to me..

APL
03-02-2021, 10:22 AM
All good I believe Trump also

Formula2000
03-02-2021, 04:45 PM
and just as a public service announcement, any girl that confides in f2000 should be concerned.

the posts of vb were disgusting. never trust a grub, even when they look reformed. they will break your trust and publicly post anything when it suits them.

thanks for adding that moral and ethical marker to this discussion.

I’ve learnt to keep quiet on my shop visits. Haven’t posted any experience for months. The reason I speak up these days because I can’t any longer tolerate brissypunter and his holier than thou attitude.
I would’ve been quiet had he chosen not to mouth off fellow shop owners, also the fact that he has also threatened punters who -a lot of them- have provided him with some sort of income by visiting Zen

Scenic
03-02-2021, 04:59 PM
Doesn’t seem sensitive to me..

For you no
For him yes
YMMV

Brissypunter
05-02-2021, 06:35 PM
What a great time sitting back having beers and popcorn reading this shit ! Lol but it bought out the ones I wanted lol
U can say what u want about me water off a ducks back I have the info I need now thanks 🙏

Homebrew
06-02-2021, 10:59 PM
I only had great times at Zen, some lovely ladies, none ever complained about boss, and I do go back to Camp hill days.
Anyway move on be careful and treat all as you wish to be treated, from there the rewards can be great.

Batting100
09-02-2021, 02:34 AM
I only had great times at Zen, some lovely ladies, none ever complained about boss, and I do go back to Camp hill days.
Anyway move on be careful and treat all as you wish to be treated, from there the rewards can be great.

I only went twice and in one of them my ml seized up completely when she heard ‘her boss’ come back.... can’t say it made my experience any better and it felt like pretty genuine fear...