It’s that whole entrapment myth recycled. The same thing would apply to any crime then.
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The law back in the 80's was police officers were required by law to identify themselves. If you ask them they were required to give their name, rank and what station they were from, usually the Valley next to the valley pool. If a non uniformed officer was asked he had to identify himself and produce an identity card. Soliciting or entrapment by LE was a very grey area and if you care to read case histories most were thrown out by judges. LE back in those days were more concerned (or not) with organised crime which involved drugs, illegal gambling, illegal cigs,extortion etc rather than some tart selling her body on the corner of Brunswick St. Why do you think Warren Armstrong sold Players tinnies out of an esky while upstairs guys were doing the deed for so long.
Some guys on here know shit.
Seems similar today https://www.qld.gov.au/law/crime-and.../being-stopped.
As i said pseudo-intellectual. It was never the case, repeating yourself doesn't prove anything. Police are only require to identify themselves when they are attempting to use their police powers, not at the whim of some dimwit like yourself.
It's hilarious when someone puts forward a link thinking it supports their claim, but their lack of understanding makes it the converse.
Correct, up until the point they actually reveal themselves as police and attempt an actual arrest they are not utelising police powers. Use your brain for once in your life how could they be using police powers if they are undercover and pretending to not be police? Not sure whose point you were trying to prove, but thanks for proving mine for me.
As i keep stating, you're a total dimwit pseudo-intellectual. You quote Mark Twain to appear more intelligent than "your".
Let's see if you're smart enough to understand that ....
Is he legally required to tell you he is a solicitor if you ask? :question:
Ahhh sir, the self importance of solicitors. The law is the culmination of ideas! The ideas of people, however these days, the self importance of solicitors believe they are the gatekeepers to these ideas. A member of parliament or a representative of the people doesn't have to be a solicitor! A solicitor only has to transcribe these ideas into a document. The police who are required to be undercover need to be able to operate without answering that question truthfully. That sir, is an idea! The solicitor is just the person who writes that idea down. Is the person correct sir? That is all that matters, not his professional qualifications.
Lets enjoy our punting!
Two types of people on this forum. Nerds like myself, socially awkward, who can only get a fuck by paying for it. And the other type. Previously referred to as " bitter cunts". Who also can only get a fuck by paying for it.
Why can't people be nice?
The Queen's Counsel has spoken:vomit:
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That experience turned you into a Gelding?
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UNBELIEVABLE !!!
tell you what !!??!! i was one of the other 5. everything you said, i felt. i couldn't even eat properly all the way to the court date. at that time, i live in units, and every little sound at the door, i thought the cops were back to ask me more questions. it was a bloody nightmare. also, for the other people who were arguing and reading this, at that time, i asked the girl if she was an undercover cop. and she said no. and when the cop was writing me the court summons, i told them that i had asked the girl and that she had said she isn't a cop. the copper had the nerve to ask me, do you have a recording of the question that you asked the girl ?
on the day of the court appearance, i told the lawyer appointed to me, that it was entrapment. he told me it was difficult to prove, and if i used that as an excuse, and if i was found guilty anyway, they would record that incident as a conviction against me. the lawyer asked me if i still wanted to go ahead with the entrapment defence but strongly advised against it. my fine was $ 350
"The law in Australia
Unlike our common law counterparts in the US, there is no defence of entrapment available under Australian law."
https://www.findlaw.com.au/articles/...stralian%20law.
There's another aspect none brought up as part of undercover operations, they are given a warrant or a commission to perform the duties undercover and can withhold their employment status as a police officer if asked "are you a cop?" in the act of their duties.
best is don't do anything illegal, and if you do, try not to get caught.
"up until the point they actually reveal themselves as police and attempt an actual arrest they are not utelising police powers"
"how could they be using police powers if they are undercover and pretending to not be police?"
So if a police officer is conducting an undercover operation he is not really a police officer with no police powers, until they reveal themselves.
Classic!