This contradicts 3 shop owners and a ml who know him well. Not saying you are wrong, but
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I get your point. I really do.
That said i dont think spaceman gives a rats arse if authorities look at him. He is trying to stop people trafficking and sexual slavery. Maybe his strategy is flawed, maybe it isnt.
Not knowing how to go through the proper channels etc doesnt mean that he isnt trying his guts out to do something about the problem.
Ive had a few mls tell me he knows what he is talking about and there is a lot of truth to the issue. Ones who would know.
What would you have him do? If he has already contacted police, politicians, border force, news organisations etc
I would be getting in contact with advocate groups. Fair Work will probably wash their hands of it but I would be trying them along with the various sex worker groups. They have more experience in these matters and their entire purpose is to help these kinds of victims.
poorly educated + naive about local rights and laws + scared/paranoid about authorities + unscrupulous people manipulating them = anything is possible.
That’s right asic is for business name registering
Do you know that is not illegal to run a business with out abn but it is ,if your trading under anything other than you name And then you ( yes you) are responsible for taking 50% of the money and sending it off to the tax department with there details
I sent off a email mail to the pla , in October last year for few shops in Capalaba (and I won’t give away here what I sent ) but I proved who was the owner / and was trading as a brothel With no abn or registered trading name ( 12 hours later ,they had abns and business registration ,and company names and few weeks later they where arrested)
The massage parlour on Zillmere Rd Zillmere has been running a escort in Mackay
There is on the Gold Coast at the moment running escorts adds to a parlour
Government departments run by a set of rules , they don’t waver from it , it’s not at there discretion, when they are formally notified about it , they act
This is not a Investigation and sit on it for 2 years to see where it go’s
Government department act faster
They have no choice but too act
Some times it is easier to sneak up behind them , than going straight at them
Some of you on hear , I have shown ( how , where, who , and the real owners)
The reason I didn’t get Looked at is because I am the one sending it to them
Don’t forget most shops are fine
I am not wanting to change the industry , just drive a stake through the hearts of the crimes that horse trade the girls
Both of the companies for sukhonnee mekchai are “trust” not pty lt
Here is another one Izzy and Dee Dee trust nothing is in her real name other than the restaurant at bulimba Witch is registered to 105 Wellington st
And now Dee Dee massage parlour ( witch traded illegal for 6 years )that is to a false address 150 Wellington st ,a site office for multi plex I think
You have to be registered in order to withhold the 48% tax and send it to the ATO. Withholding 48% of the invoice amount generally only works when you are buying something on account. If it's a cash service they will just tell you to GTFO if you try to keep the 48%.
PLA doesn't care about ABN or registered business names. In fact I don't think PLA cares about massage shops at all. PLA is responsible for brothels/solo prostitutes advertising and the registration and regulation of licenced brothels.
I agree that gov departments will act faster, but only if you know which departments to contact and which areas of the law they will react to.
Yes The pla don’t care about abn or business
Only when it’s a massage parlour with no abn and business registration and they are offering sexual services
Witch makes them a illegal brothel
If they where registered they are just braking the rules
I can make every one of them get a abn
Just send a list of them
It’s that easy
Pink ,gentle Touch and the one across the street in Capalaba got them with in 12 hours
The same s&k chevron island
"Only when it’s a massage parlour with no abn and business registration and they are offering sexual services
Witch makes them a illegal brothel"
For the millionth time, ABN and business registration has NOTHING to do with being an illegal brothel, nor does the fact it's a massage shop.
ANY I repeat ANY business offering sexual services for a fee and is not a licensed brothel (aside from solo operators) is an illegal brothel.
Spaceman may just be a good guy. Seems like leon_001 and lunchboxlover back him and know the good deeds he has done.
They seem to know the MLs based on what they have posted, which means they go or used to go to the same shops that spaceman is outing.
So why not just state the actual good deeds he has done, prove him right and stop the argument. Maybe I don't get it but the owner has fled Australia according to spaceman and people seem to know his real identity and he's outed all the shops/businesses, soooo.....
You have some things wrong in your supposition.
Owner isnt male for starters. Shops still being run by a relative though.
The good deeds done by spaceman are best kept private, 1 to protect mls and 2 some people wont believe it and the others already accept his good intentions. I know what he has done and dont feel its my business to announce it publicly.
As for visiting the slave shops, not all affected mls were working in these environments and got caught up in other ways.
Ecchi
May be your a shop owner
Seems to be missing the point to get a registered business name
You have to have a abn
Yes they can shut and open another one same many times as you like
Just wait a little longer March / April world wide announcement and one for Australia
You will know when you see it
I never said the owner is male. Spaceman has made that clear. When i was saying he at the end I was talking about spaceman. He has outed all the shops owned or secretly owned by sukhonnee. So by sharing his good deeds i fail to see how it affect the mls (I'm assuming he has helped them and they are no longer slaves). Him srating all the businesses has affected the mls left behind even those they are there by choice. They are tarnished or business has dropped if people listen to spaceman, so they nay have to provide even further services to keep or entice customers.
Spaceman has said that by frequenting these shops even if you are seeing unaffected mls, you are still financially supported the bad owner. Realistically its hard to imagibe an ML that worked in a shop fir a while wouldn't know what is happenjng to the other girls.
Linchboxlover, you make the assumption that people won't believe his good actions, yet people here believe in the punters actions e.g. newbie nbbbj $50 cim.
I'm assuming you don't actually personally know spaceman. He has nade ut his business to tell others what is happening. There is a lot of argument about the validity. My suggestion would help resolve some of this. Just saying.
Some of us have bumped into each other
The other connection is through the girls and they are telling them what I have done for them ( they know first hand from the girls mouth) not what I say
All the different agencies no who I am , many have spoken face to face
I am not hiding( iecchi)
I go to some of these places looking for information
You would be surprised how open they are
Like Ellie’s 2 city Rd 2 registered business but runs 5 others for sukhonnee that Aren’t
The mls are being short changed good for the customer cheap
I know ,,I think it was $80 for the hour h/ j included shop gets $40 girl gets $40
Advertising cheap gold cost prices where most of her empire is
Normally $60 1 hour 50/50 split $30
So the girl would normally make with a h/j $80 ( not 40 ,
this force’s the girls to offer more extras to make up the missing money) the more extras the more popular the shop gets the more the owner makes)
Nasty ha it’s like you boss telling you ,
Your going to work for $10 per/ hour so
, he can make more money
The funny thing is some of the things spaceman has done for these girls has been mentioned in a roundabout way and they were shot down as bullshit mostly because it was too much for people to accept I think..
Cognitive dissonance maybe????
Maybe the roundabout way is the issue.
Like asking for extras. Be specific. Asking for a happy ending could just mean the ML is trying o make you laugh with jokes.
I understand that spaceman is/trying to help MLs, even if the method is being questioned. What I'm saying is in order to help him and convince punters, back him up by saying what he's done, what you've seen and heard that will help the MLs that are in need of help.
Spaceman has posted about this a million times over. Based on responses the forum is split in whether he's legit or a nutcase.
If you know he's legit, help him and his cause , not by just saying he's legit but by giving examples.
Why? What is it to you?
He isnt a publicity whore clamouring for plaudits and pats on the back. He wants to see bad people and people traffickers out of the industry. I hope we all do.
Those that are skeptical or think hes full of it arent gonna be convinced, even if we trot out 7 mls with first hand accounts. Some are just contrarians, some have a stake in the matter and some just pile on with no knowledge at all. Those that know him and/or what he has done need no further convincing.
I am 100% convinced he helped a ml i know personally, above and beyond the call of duty, asking for nothing in return. She is eternally grateful and her ml, real life friends also thank him for making her feel good about herself again.
I have no idea why you need specifics about the help he gave. Knowing he eg gave her a speedboat, paid her phone bill or gave her a pack of licoriqe allsorts? What does it matter. Its between her and him to disclose not me.
You come in strong defence of spaceman. He ( I assume spaceman is a he) hasn't said he wants to keep it private (admittedly I haven't read all his posts), but he has made many public statements, public condemnations, some of those have been questioned by others.
Some question authenticity, some question privacy and some question the reason for airing allegations (guilty by law vs belief of guilt), when unsubtantiated claims can be more damaging (no I'm not defending sukhonee rather the process/system).
No one wants bad people and people traffickers in any part of ones lives.
Giving praise and support does not equate to him being a publicity whore clamouring for plaudits and pats on the back. In fact it can be motivating and reassuring fir him (anyone).
Factual evidence will proof his posts and claims. It may not convince loveher or ecchi, but it may the other readers of this forum.
If you don't understand this after what I wrote I can't help you.
Not here to argue or convince you. Just stating my viewpoint. Not a matter of right or wrong, jyst looking at it from different perspectives.
Peace.