I am wondering if we can start a private board to share who the ML/WL are so other punters don't fall for the same trap....
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I am wondering if we can start a private board to share who the ML/WL are so other punters don't fall for the same trap....
@ZinZan Thats an amazing story and thanks for sharing. Your last comments really brought it home, but on the positive, the endless praised lifted her confidence and spirit making a positive change to someones life. All along the journey your head and your heart was telling you different things and at the end of it all - you knew the outcome.
I cannot relate to all these feelings because getting involved with a ML/WL just leads to problems. I would like to think most punters flirt during a session, harmless bantering and the comments coming back from the WL/ML is always flattering. One should always take those comments like a grain of salt. Once again, it is always tempting to take the friendship outside the shop, but please refrain from doing this to avoid the issues described. Besides, why stick with one while there are so many more hot ones out there. Side note: 2021 is going to be another tough year. No new hot foreign students.
Are you a Tony Robbins fan? So many self-help terms in there...
To be honest, I didn't find any of the "red flags" you mentioned in your post to be actually red flags. Instead, all the big red flags came from your description of how you felt. Like you saying "I felt very privileged that she was trusting me enough to let me into her life...", your constant use of the term "love making" instead of just sex, your expectations from her with reference to what you got in the past, etc. It all tells me you've got one heart-string too many attached to this situation.
Besides, your claim that she cheated you into "improving her ego, confidence and self esteem".... well, that's all a bit too abstract to lay claim to, isn't it? I for one would never dare say that I am responsible for someone else's personality trait.
Let’s face it there are many of us that have a soft heart and can’t help but try and play the white knight, it’s who some of us are. For every one of these tales we read from a fellow punter there’s thousands more that haven’t been written and plenty of previously burnt punters telling those in the midst of their current crisis to move on for the better and this will continue until the end of time. Not long after starting punting I started to think about how I would be sucked into feelings vortex and knew I just wouldn’t be able to stop myself from falling for someone, it was bound to happen. Sure enough a girl/ML I’d seen a few times grew on me more and more each time I saw her as we discussed personal matters and the sessions became more experimental and intense... we did not fuck as yet but it was coming. I was still seeing plenty of other girls ML and WL, single and repeat visits and having some wild rides, I made sure of that but there was that ONE girl who would be the lost puppy that I had to save. So she looked at me and told me how much she liked me even threw the casual ‘Love you’ line at me. I just sat there on that table in silence for a bit resisting every fucking urge to say it back.
I told her I liked her, I liked her a lot but I canÂ’t say i love you back even if itÂ’s a casual throw away... I didnÂ’t know. She looked confused and sad but I looked her in the eyes and told her how her world and mine were not compatible no matter how much we liked each other. I had prepared for this day and didnÂ’t allow my dick or my heart to overrule my head. Someone always gets hurt and I told her that would more than likely be me! I then said to her that we should never ever fuck, IÂ’ll be back to see you only if you promise this doesnÂ’t happen, no matter how much I told you I want to, donÂ’t let it happen. I didnÂ’t see her for at least the next 6 weeks, I felt terrible but I continued to see other girls at an even more frantic pace. I did go back and do continue to see her and our sessions always are amazing. IÂ’ll always have a soft spot for her I just never make a point of telling her how much.
I think I only managed to do that by reading this forum and the assurances of others of impending disaster and heartbreak, as much as I already knew it. I donÂ’t want to do that to any woman in this game, itÂ’s hard enough as is and I especially didnÂ’t want to go through that pain and anguish again myself.
Prepare yourself gents, you might think you know the risks and consequences but no fuck is really worth that.
Some harsh words and attitudes displayed by some members about this topic but I for one saw them as ‘Speaking words of wisdom.... Let it be’.
I feel for you ZinZan, Take care...
I agree with you. When you start punting you fall into this fantasy world believing that these girls are loving and caring and maybe you can be friends and even date them. They will say "you're so handsome", or "I like you very much" and this makes you feel good inside not knowing that they give similar compliments to most of their clients. However, once you keep hearing the same comments over and over again, it wears off. After joining this forum, you get a different picture of what these girls are all about and how it is all about the money that drives them to work in this industry and to say nice comments to customers.
My advice to guys who want to have a proper relationship is to look outside the shops. You won't have to deal with the baggage these girls have or to worry about the many guys she is spending time with in order to make a living or to support her expensive tastes. Of course, there is a chance the girl you meet outside might also have some baggage but that's life. There are a lot of fish in the sea. Go out and find the right one. Don't waste your time and energy in searching for a girlfriend or wife in a shop. It will always end badly for you.
I want to premise this by saying. I'm not having a go at you. Just wondering
This is such common practice in the industry, why red flag? Fake pics, fake age, fake nationality. All standard.
Pretty common, considering her age, she's probably a veteran. I'd be surprise if she was like new girl.
following that. With her (probably late 30's) she probably have to go the extra mile to get work considering most pplz won't rebook her after being tricked by her age. which makes the.....
Quite believable.
Why red flag? she's in the sex industry. She's hustling. she's a WL in her late 30s. Unless she has a hidden degree somewhere she's trapped in the industry.
The money she brings in as a WL compared to an alternative career path if she were to switch.
What would she put on her resume? Or the for the big gap in employment years?
She working you. making you feel good about yourself. Stroking your ego.
She probably just got bored of you or found someone else. You weren't offering her a relationship and it wasn't going anywhere. So she just might be just moving on or seeing no point.
Doubt that's confidence, probably just familar with you.
I don't think this is WL, but just WOMEN in general. Everyone is out for their own benefit.
you want sex.
they want something out of it.
It sure sucks to feel used and abused. I'm not giving advice. I think this is just life in general. I think every guy out there will get used and lied to by women sometime during their life.
Atleast this is a much easier relationship to just walk away from.
One piece of advice.
If you really want to test of a WL (girl) is truly into you. See if they'll buy you anything. From something small to something large.
If they are willing to spend money on you. Then you may actually have a relationship with them.
I've always found it's easier to fuck a girl (not wl) in the ass than in is to get them to pay for you.
If they're paying for your plane ticket to travel with them. Book hotels for you 2 to stay. Don't think you got a girls heart. (not saying to use women for their money. obviously pay for stuff also. But if it's a 1 sided transaction, especially considering the amount of money WL make. you don't really mean much to them.)
Nicely said cuteguy. Last week I was having dinner with a Chinese girl that I've known for a while. It was great to sit down opposite a normal Chinese girl and not a WL that I'm friends with outside the shop.
WL's have complicated lives and I'm starting to see it very clearly now. Don't get me wrong, I'll still maintain contact with my regular but just saying that their lives are complicated and convoluted. Problems with customers, problems with the shop, other punters harrassing her and the list goes on.
The thing is, the more I'm exposed to it, the more I understand and see how difficult it is for the WL's. It's their choice but once they are in, I think it's very difficult to leave even though they want to.
I'm trying to figure out as what you lost from this . You should ask her to see guru like Tony Robbins about her self esteem. You didn't buy her anything , you pay and you got the sex you wanted . Even went out with you free of charge No damage to you .You said it yourself you never wanted a relationship . Only a fantasy relationship . well you got a real fantasy relationship . She made you feel in love again . She know you're not into a relationship but a fantasy . she used twitters so she's a local WL . I don't think it's a good idea to date a WL who never going quit the Industry . No future if she has no intention of leaving the sex industry . You saw over 50 WL s and only you had problem with one of them. That's a pretty average don't you think 1/50
Man a lot of guys fall for working girls. A few of my mates ended up marrying some.
But if you ask me, at the end of the day, just have fun with it. Don’t be too serious or get emotionally invested if at all possible
Exactly what I was thinking. I read through the whole post expecting at some point that the lady would do something to hurt this guy but at the end of it I was like "that's it??".
I guess some people can get offended by things that you can never imagine would be a problem... That's probably how a lot of domestic violence happens. Somebody does something thinking it is perfectly fine, but the other party is offended, simmers in all that negativity for a long time, then it boils over into something seriously bad.